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July 16, 2025 • 32 mins
In the second hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Ryan is joined by Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams to discuss the democrats' plan to unmask ICE agents.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Colorado, known for the trend to a agua problem, now
has another big issue, a spiraling mental health crisis fueling
psychotic behavior. And there's even a George Soros angle here.
A registered sex offender could have his charges dropped after
a Soros backed prosecutor is considering leaving the charges behind

(00:21):
because he was found. The suspect found to be mentally
incompetent to stand trial. Solomon Gallagan, who identifies as a woman,
was accused of trying to kidnap a boy last year
and was charged with one count of attempted kidnapping. Police
say surveillance video shows him approaching students playing at recess
this is a horrifying scene before trying to grab that

(00:43):
eleven year old boy. But now a spokesperson for the
DA tells us that they have not yet dropped the charges,
but they intend to do so, and the suspect will
not be released out to the public, but will instead
be civilly committed for mental health treatment, meaning he could
be released at some point in the future. But he's
also been released from jail before. A local outlet reveals

(01:04):
that prosecutors have dropped felony charges against him. At least
four times since twenty eighteen. The suspect's sisters as a
brother has been in and out of jail for twelve years,
diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, but was never institutionalized
because of a shortage of beds in mental health centers.
But the County da Amy Patten is set to dismiss

(01:26):
those charges as required by law if someone's found mentally
incompetent to stand trial. And now furious residents want her recalled.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Folks who've gone national again and flashpoint Aurora, Colorado, Daniel
Jreenski Aroor City Council joining us yesterday, and she was
on that program last night, Laura ingram Angle on Fox News.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
That's not the first time. And we always.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Seem to find ourselves in the national news for very
bad reasons. Of course, going back to the Aurora theater shooting,
that is a landmark incident in American history, in a
dark chapter in ours. But then also with the trendy
Aragua gang activity that thank god, Cindy Romero and her
husband Ed set up exterior cameras outside their apartment to

(02:14):
get on video what was going on. Otherwise nobody would
have just taken their word for it. People were ignoring
them anyway, including Kyle Clark from nine News, to whom
Cindy Romero reached out directly, exclusively, primarily initially, and got
nothing in return or response. It took the cente arenas

(02:35):
Fox thirty one to basically track Cindy down and hounder,
go tell me your story. I want to tell it
for Fox thirty one and good on him. And then
once that came out and I'm following what she's saying
and doing online, I follow Cindy Romero on X, I
reach out to her via DM. She comes into this
studio and tells her story. And Ed did the same
thing because it's a story that needed to be told,

(02:58):
and it was inconvenient for Aurora, but it was happening
and you couldn't deny it, and we needed to do
something to fix it. Of course, then, as Daniel Will
illustrate on Laura's show last night, there was the tragic
case of Caitlyn Weaver, a fifteen year old illegal alien
steals his mother's vehicle without her knowledge or permission. She's

(03:19):
also an illegal alien, by the way, drives at ninety
miles an hour in a forty five zone with kids
in the back, plows into the vehicle of Caitlyn Weaver,
killing her. And because he was an illegal alien, and
Amy Padden didn't want to draw a tension of ice
to deport him and his family, she went easy on

(03:41):
this young man and decided to give him merely probation.
I don't know how one can live with oneself at
night after doing something like that. But then she goes
on Amy Padden and again with the cover of darkness,
hiding behind well the eighteenth District Attorney's office. That no, no, no, no,
it's Amy pa Say her name. Say it with me,

(04:02):
say it out loud, Say it again. She's doing this,
Not her predecessor, John Kellner, hell no, not his predecessor,
George Brockler, hell no.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Who's now the DA.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
In the twenty third, Amy Padden comes in George Sorols
funded criminals, first defendants, first soft on crime, easy sentencing, rehabilitation,
not not even bothering about that part of it. But no,
we're going to release Solomon Gallaghan into the wild. Got
to drop the charges. That's Colorado state law. He's incompetent

(04:33):
to stand trial. His defense attorneys went shrink shopping, found
a psychiatrist.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Said, this dude's nuts. He's crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
He can't stand trial, he's incompetent, and Amy Panden goes, Wow,
good enough for me. I'm not going to pursue this
any further. And then once press done that, now she
comes back, oh oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait, having
and hiding behind statements and her subordinates and not coming out,
not holding a press conference herself. When's the last time
you saw Amy Padden address the people in the eighteenth District?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I live there.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I haven't seen it, fielding tough questions, sitting down for
an interview, conducting a press conference to instruct the public
exactly why she's making the decisions that she is that
are soft on crime and why that's a good thing.
Further to that point, what would Amy Patten say if
she was not the coward that she is?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
But she is, she is a coward.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
What would she say if she was sitting down face
to face with Caitlin Weaver's family, her father, John, who
I've texted back and forth with. He did some media
interviews he doesn't want to do anymore. I get it,
he's a morning father. What does she say looking him
directly in the eye, saying you know what, your daughter's
life was only worth probation for this fifteen year criminal

(05:51):
illegal alien because well he's an illegal alien.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I didn't want him to be deported.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
How do you think that would be received by the
grieving family of a deceased daughter killed by the wanton
actions of this fifteen year old delinquent. Is that gonna
set well? What would Amy Padden say to Dante White,

(06:17):
father of a child that was nearly abducted by Solomon Gallaghan,
child that was on the playground. There there's a lot
of elements here that don't add up to me. And
I don't like him at all, and I know that
you don't like him at all. But what would Amy
Padden say looking the parent of the child who was
nearly abducted and kidnapped, it could have been raped and murdered,
and telling them what, Yeah, technicality, Sorry, he slipped through

(06:37):
the cracks. He's incompetence stand trial. We're gonna put him
in a psychiatric facility, but there's no term on that
he could be released at any time for any reason
or no reason at all. Don't have enough beds by
go back out in the public, do it? Again, this
individual is so sick, so twisted, so demented, registered sex offender.
Let's key in on that detail. To his own sister,

(06:59):
his own niece are like, this guy is not fit
to live in society, and yet releasing him into the wild,
that's perfectly fine. According to Amy Padden, how would she
sit down and look the parents of these kids, these
terrified children on a playground at their own elementary school
in Aurora where they should feel safe, and this monster

(07:22):
comes waltzing in with a white blanket, stoned out of
his mind on whatever, whoever, who knows what, nearly abducts
a child. But don't worry, he didn't do it this
time and maybe he won't do it again.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
How does she have that conversation? What does she say?
How could she live with herself? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Here is Dante White. He was on with Danielle Jerinski
on the ingram Angle last night nationally on Fox News
talking to Laura.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Dante White is a witness of it attempted kidnapping. Traumatic
to see, Dante, you say your child encountered this suspect.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Tell us what happened? Yeah, that's correct.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
About a year and a half ago, we got a
call from the school saying that, you know, someone had
come on to the campus and it was dealt with,
and it just didn't sit right with me. So I
dug a little bit deeper and found out that it
was actually an attempted kidnapping, you know, situation.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
And Laura reacts to.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
That, well, attempted kidnapping. And when you see this video,
you think to yourself, oh, my goodness, I mean, it
could be any of our kids. This could happen to
any of our children. And thank goodness this story turned
out as it did. But again, this individual could be
released at some point in the future.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's a key detail right there.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
And but for the grace of God or just sheer
dumb luck, this guy stumbled because he was so hopped
up on whatever, tripped over his own blanket while trying
to grab at the kid and drag the kid away
from a player. By the way, where were the adults here?
I was talking about this with Kelly yesterday. You know,
I've been a coach, I've been a camp counselor, I've

(09:02):
been a substitute teacher, been a graduate assistant than my
own nieces.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
You know, I care deeply about kids. And their safety.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
As you know on this program, as we've talked about
so many issues along these lines. Where were the adults
in charge at this elementary school during recess?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
It was during recess? Right, this was during school.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Now, a principle I believe lost her job over this,
but that doesn't address the matter. Where were the adults
if I was one of the teachers out there supervising
these kids watching over recess. I'm fifty years old. I'm
not in the prime of my life anymore. I'm not Zach.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
But do you know the.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Full form tackle I would have executed on this bum
and taking him out if he's trying to pick up
a kid. Nothing would have stopped me. Shere, adrenaline, You're
not taking one of my kids, get out of here,
and I beat the crap out of him until police arrived.
He brought that upon himself, and I'm not calling they them.
She whatever the no, Solomon Gallaghan, did you see this mugshot,

(10:04):
not even attempting to look like a woman. You can't
just I can't declare myself a wizard, and having never
gone to Hogwarts, I never studied wizardry. But I just
decide one day, Hey, I'm a wizard. Refer to me
as a wizard. No, that's not happening. Transgender people exist.
Gender dysphoria is a thing. This person's meenally ill beyond

(10:25):
all of that. I mean, whack a doodle town, And
I have some sympathy for this individual, but this individual
cannot be in our society. As a prosecutor, the district Attorney,
Amy Padden is charged with protecting her constituents from crime
and from criminals from ensuring their safety, to protect and

(10:49):
serve just like law enforcement, but to carry it further
through the legal process, to exhaust every option and an alternative.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
George Brockler talked about this.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
If some defense attorney goes shrink shopping and finds a psychiatrist,
some doctor feel good, that's gonna say, oh, he is incompetent.
You're just gonna take that one psychiatrist.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Word for it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Or alternatively, as a prosecutor, are you gonna go No,
that's not gonna happen. That's not gonna fly. That's not
gonna happen on my watch. And I'm going to the
ends of the earth taking this to court, and we're
gonna go as far as we can to deem this
individual competent to stand trial, to face the chargers and
the music and the sentencing that comes with it. He's

(11:31):
a criminal, and if he's mentally ill, then you better
damn well have enough psychiatric wards hospitals beds rooms to
house this person indefinitely until or unless that person is
competent to stand trial, or in perpetuity. If this person
has truly lost their mind and they're crazy town, that's it.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Danielle Drinsky, Daniel, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.
But the DA claims, Look, she's just following the law.
You can't sent in someone to a crime that the
person was not capable of having his behavior conformed to
the situation because of a mental illness.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
So why the recall effort.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Why not just change the laws?

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Well, I think both need to happen, Laura. You know,
welcome to a blue state, right. These are state laws
that if someone is found unfit to stand trial, that
you have to dismiss the charges. Now, originally Amy Patten
had said she was going to dismiss charges and just
release Solomon.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Gallagan back into the public.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
After some public pressure, now she's saying that Solomon will
go into some sort of a mental health treatment facility.
We don't know what that means. There's not much information
around that. But again, there are state laws in this
blue state that prevent that.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Daniel's exactly correct, Welcome to a blue state. I don't
think Laura really processes or understands this.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
She's coming at this into the legal weeds of well,
you can just change the laws.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, going back to the wizard comment, if I was
a Widdzard and did a ten Hogwarts and had a
magic wand, and I could weave my magic wand Obama
style and change the laws of a state in which
radical leftists have ruined it with all thirteen twelve, the
gun grab bill, I mean, going down the list, do
you really think we can undo this one? Laura, It's
not that simple. Not in Colorado again, Welcome to Colorado. Colorful,

(13:19):
Colorado a little too colorful. Danielle goes on to mention
Kate Little Weaver, and then Laura Ingram turns back to
Dante White with this observation, and these are all valid.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
There are a lot of issues going on in Colorado,
and immigration has changed this state. Dante. I've spent so
much time over the years, one of my favorite states
in the United States. It is a beautiful state, but
it's changed.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Everything changes.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I get that, But legalization of marijuana has led to
real problems psychotic behavior, violent psychotic disorder, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia.
All chances of contracting or developing those symptoms are encouraged
by young you and persistent use of marijuana. That's been
scientifically shown multiple studies. So you got that going on.

(14:06):
But then you have you know, I think that they
don't have room for how psychotic Sadly, some of these individuals,
many of them started on soft drugs and then cook
their brains.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
There's no place to put them.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's a very key point, Laura, and that is central
to the problem here.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Dante White.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, you know, honestly, the law right that is, you know,
protecting Gallaghan was passed unanimously by both sides of the fence.
And you know, that's kind of where the core issue
lies for me, right is, you know, people like him,
people like them, are able to walk free as a
potential outcome if there's no beds, And that's you know,

(14:45):
really what I'm trying to draw attention to is kind
of the mental health state of what's going on with.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Them On the second part, I can't believe that first part.
Though Republicans signed off on this, I don't believe that.
I don't George Brockler and I have talked about that.
I mean, if anything, we are pushing for none and no,
these don't have this lottery language. What's an incompetent individual?
How you how do you define these terms? That's where
George is saying, these loopholes that you can kind of
worm your way through, and lawyers haven't out for anybody.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
He's not he's not.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
There was another case, I think it was down in
Colorado Springs. I'll have this sound coming up later in
which a guy what kills his wife or something and
then all of a sudden, I'm incompetent, all right, the
charges are drop. Then that's over. No, No, we need
to revisit that. But again, good luck Laura. Again legal
weeds here. I get what she's saying. But again we
go back to the original problem.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Why do we have a mental health crisis? I mean,
we have.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
A lack of lack of flow factors that.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, there's there's a lot of there's a lot of factors,
but we're going back to British common law, and we
saw this with the Reagan assassination of town. Remember in
that famous case, you can't convict somebody of a crime
if he was if he's determined to be unable to
conform his behavior to kind of a reasonable set of
circum stances. In this case, I mean, that's what they've determined.

(16:04):
So I'm not sure there's anything you can do about that. Yeah,
so that's a constitutional issue. I don't think you're going
to win that one. But the question is, Danielle, will
Colorado wake up to what's going on right in front
of their very eyes with the epidemic of illegal immigration,
gang activity, and now drugs pouring into the state, legal

(16:27):
and illegal.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
A brief aside John Hinckley Junior.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
She mentions, there, Okay, let's say he's mentally incompetent to
stand trial. That's fine, but then you need to have
the facilities federal, state, local, whatever that will house this individual,
take them out of society in perpetuity infinitely until or
unless they are mentally fit in it.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They're not, then you do not release them into the streets.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
But that's what's happening here in Colorado or I think yes.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
I think the answer is yes. I think when I
exposed what was going on with Trendy Arragua out of Aurora,
I think parts of Aurora certainly woke up after that.
I think that's re call effort and highlighting Caitlin Weaver's
life and her tragic death, highlighting Solomon Gallaghan. I think
I think Colorado's are going to start to wake up.

(17:11):
And I can tell you, Laura, I've been on your
program before. This isn't This isn't my.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
First fight out of Aurora, Colorado.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
This isn't going to be my last fight out of Aurora, Colorado.
I will continue to fight for this state and I
will continue to wake people up.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
She's doing that her level best, and I admire Danielle
Jorinsky's vim and vigor. But to her point, is Colorado
waking up? I would say majority, No, unfortunately. But what
percentage of Colorado do you think has eyes wide open
at this point that is tuned in, plugged in to
the Trendia Ragua stuff, to the Caitlin Weaver case, to
the Solomon Gallaghan crap. Like the crime here in Colorado

(17:46):
that's tolerated is immense will turn into votes that boot
Democrats out of office. We're far from that point, but
have we made progress at least in waking people up
to Danielle's.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Point, What do you think think about that? Five seven
seven three nine.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
We'll get the thoughts of will County Sheriff Steve Reims
on this and myriad other topics when we return more
of Ryan Schuling Live straight ahead.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
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Speaker 3 (18:20):
What I want to know.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
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Speaker 3 (18:29):
Don't google that, by the way.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
No google it on Ryan's man.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
But I when I when I think of Blink one two,
and I like some of their stuff, not all of
their stuff, but I but.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
I like him a little bit.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
I mean I think mainly that demographic I would think
is white.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
Right, So there you go.

Speaker 9 (18:52):
You wouldn't be wrong because when I was at that concert, yeah,
you know, it's like the Coco pebble and the milk. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Imagine the fact that you were like six five six six,
I mean that probably.

Speaker 9 (19:08):
Oh, but then like you see another black guy, We're.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Not alone because what's up man, he's like, don't.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
You And another guy he's like, I'm here with my girls.
That me too. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
Here we had a great text seven one nine four
three nine. I played lessons that I learned in team
sports every day, to my family, to the people I've
worked with, to my time in the military, even my
time building a crew now.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
As a pilot. So I completely agree with that.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
You know, there's no question everything that we learned in sports,
you know, you can apply all those lessons into real life.
And that's that's why we.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Do it for thank you for your service. By the way,
to the text here as well, we appreciate that absolutely.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
So last night, other than the home run derby no
not homer jury, the All Star Game was followed by
the swing off Jade barn signs his contract with the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
So that is great news because the rookies reported today RJ. Harvey.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
Of course, in a lot of the second rounders, in fact,
almost all of the second rounders still have not got
their deals done.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
And now that leaves just.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
One first rounder, Shamar Stewarts with the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Here we are again, Dave.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
A month ago, we were talking about Shamar Stewart and like,
what is going to happen here. There's I don't know,
legitimate or otherwise threats out there that he may just
sit out and go back into the draft.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
He's actually as.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Of yesterday, back at College Station, Yes, and so correct.
There is speculation in College Station, by the way, is
the home town of Texas A and M, where he
played college football. So there's speculation that he may go
back to Texas A and M and play. Here's where
I think here's why I think that won't happen. I

(20:53):
think the league behind the scenes will step in and
call the Bengals.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
Now.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
They've got to do it the right way because the
Bengals run the Bengals, and technically the.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
League office.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
Works for all thirty two owners, including Mike Brown of
the Bengals. That said, though, I think they will point
out to him, Hey, listen, Mike, if there's any way
we can help you get this done, we'd like to
do that because here's what we don't want to do
in today's time, with social media and NIL and players

(21:35):
coming into the league, some with a lot of money,
we don't want to create the first time. I think
it would be the first time where somebody is drafted
high in the first round and they say, I'm not
going to do that. I'm going back to school and

(21:56):
come in again next year. Because if we don't get
him signed into the Bengals, then that's going to be
a precedent setting maneuver that we do not want to
become a typical maneuver. And it could be where in

(22:16):
the past we all came into the league pretty much broke,
and so you try to negotiate for as much money
as you can, but it's like, here's your money, and
ultimately it's like, all right, I'll take that because we
didn't have any money. But now these cats come in,
some of them with plenty of money, millionaires. Yeah, And
so if they say, like I'm drafted by a team
I don't want to go to or things don't work

(22:38):
out at I'll go back to school, and that create
to me, that creates havoc or the potential of havoc
in the NFL.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
It's it's not a good thing for the league that
a first round pick, and also that the Cincinnati Bengals are,
which is already has this history of being spingey with contracts,
really not being a player friendly team in the first
place that they're trying. They are trying to set a

(23:08):
precedent with this player on his deal that none of
the other first round draft picks have in their deal.
So but the issue is, just like Dave said, these
players are coming in with money. Now, I don't know
how this will work.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
I don't I.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
Don't necessarily understand how it will work. With him going
back to textaing to them, I don't think we'll be
able to play.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
So he will not.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
So that's one thing I will say that. That been Albright,
our insider here. He tweeted this out yesterday. He said
Stuart would be ineligible to play for Texas ainge them,
but he can go back and take classes, sit out
a year, and re enter the draft.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
So you can go back there, hang out at Texas.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
And m and that's where the Nio movie comes.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
There's no guarantees gonna be a first round pick. Highly
doubt you will be a first round ball. I don't know, man,
I'm telling you, sitting out a year football is it's
really hard to do and then come back and be
a dominant different when you're you know, you get hurt,
honestly to not play this game for a year that
that's hard to come back. Obviously, nowadays you have more trainers,

(24:11):
but there's nothing like the real speed of the game.
But still, the Cincinnati Bengals should really be ashamed of
themselves because they're trying to conduct.

Speaker 8 (24:20):
Dirty business right now.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
And see that's where the league I think can step
in and as long as I mean, they've got to
be careful how they have that conversation. Even though they're
the NFL still technically they work for Mike Brown, but
they have to, you know, they've got to be able
to step in and try to move them a little
bit and have a conversation like, listen, we're trying to
help you here. Let me let me give you some

(24:43):
ideas that I think would be of benefit to you,
and tell me what you think.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Bounce these off your people.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
But I think lines of communication are going to get opened,
if not already, very quickly.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
I'm not saying you're wrong about him potentially not being
a first round where we don't really know at this point.
I think some of it has to do with the
relative depth of the position maybe is and what other
teams thought of Shamar Stewarts coming into the draft process
and what grade they sort of had on him, and
we don't really know that because he was taking it
with nineteen.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I think bye, yeah, I think it was right there.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
And I think that was actually part of the hold
up of Jade Barn's contract is they wanted to see
it was right in front of the Broncos, so they
wanted to see what he ended up nothing for. But
and even though it's all slotted, that still has to
get done. But that's where I pushed back a little bit,
is because if the depth of the edge rushing group
or the outside linebacker group coming into this next year's

(25:34):
draft is not never relatively deep, he could go top ten,
Like it's not impossible if teams out there thought he
was that guy and they and again he was more
of the lump of clay like he was a raw talent.
He didn't have a ton of sacks raw talent.

Speaker 8 (25:50):
This is a year football well he work.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
Literally, that's the worst thing for him technically as a
football player. If you're a raw talent, you need reps.
So taking a year off is the last thing you
really need. Now, granted, I get it, you got to
stand up on something. You know they're trying to give
you a deal that nobody else has. I understand that.
I'm not saying he's not doing the right thing. I'm
just saying, don't be surprised if doing the right thing

(26:17):
ends up backfiring on you later and now you're a
second third round pick, your whole contract isn't guaranteed, and
now you're fighting for your NFL life after two years.
Say it used to be back in the day if
you were drafted.

Speaker 7 (26:33):
And I mean I remember even back in the late seventies,
you were drafted and you tried to leverage I don't know,
playing in the NBA or whatever, the team that drafted
you still held your rights. Now, Bennett said something about
like Stewart would go back into the draft and be
eligible to be picked by another team. So they have changed.

(26:57):
I don't know when they changed that, but that's been changed.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Yeah, he said that he would be ineligible to play
for Texas, saying them.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
Again, no, no, I'm talking about next year. Let's say
he went back and he last owed Cows for a year.
Been saying he could go into the draft and another
team could draft him. That's correct, So that means the
league changed their rules.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
I just I didn't know about it.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
This one caller just in one text, It's like, what
if I was Cincinnati, I would draft him again the
next year, and obviously I wouldn't be surprised that they
they probably would do something like that, and then you'd
be in the same predicament that you're in again.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Can you imagine?

Speaker 9 (27:33):
Look like, honestly, these teams are that petty. Thesee, this
is what these teams will do. They're trying to ruin you.
They're trying to run you down because you don't want
to do what we ask you to do, then we'll
just ruin you.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
And I guess, as I understand something that getting kind
of compensatory anything, Oh.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
They lose their first round Picknick, And so is that
really what you want to do when you're in a
position you're trying to be, you know, competitive, trying to
win the Super Bowl. You have all the pace and
Joe Burrow, Jaman.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
Chase T. Higgins.

Speaker 9 (28:02):
Now you have issues with Trey Henderson and Schmarts Sweat,
so you literally don't have edges.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
So good luck in this league, and go on, you
Dave Logan for looking this up.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
So it is a thing now that the guys can
make the decision to go back to the draft the
next year if they basically can't get a deal done
with a team.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Fascinating precedent.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
And the other parts that you've looked up that we
found out is the team that drafted him in the
first place cannot take them the next year around. So
when we talk about setting precedents here, this is a massive,
massive deal for the NFL.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
They got to get this thing done.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
Well, all they did was pretty much paved the way
for these new age quarterbacks when they're coming out. If
you don't like the team that's about to draft you, hey,
I already got ten million of my bencount mine as well.
Just wait, I don't have to play and wait till
next year. That's a crazy precedent that the Bengals unintentionally

(29:06):
just just set, like all these other like these agents,
these quarterbacks, the arch Mannings, all these guys are sitting
here like, okay, it's very interesting. So I could just
not play and then the team I don't want to
play for can't even draft me the next year. Now
it opens up a whole new playbook on player team relationship.

(29:27):
You actually like, just just like before, when we saw
Eli not want to go to the Chargers and he
went to the Giants. You now, these new age players
have a lot more say than they did before.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, the leverage is wild.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
Yeah, it's why I think.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
The league will pressure is the wrong word, but strongly
suggests to Mike Brown and the Bengals, you got to
find a way to get this done if you have
to take a couple things out of that contract and
that ensures he's going to sign to Camp. My suggestion,
mister Brown from the league would be that you go

(30:05):
ahead and do that, because I mean Shelby's right, especially
with quarterbacks. You know, it's you don't want this to
be the first time, because then it's out there an
agents and players can see it, and they will use
it to their advantage if they think that it's the

(30:26):
right thing to do for their client.

Speaker 9 (30:28):
Pandora's box is open, and now you don't know what
for a while, but now this has opened up a
whole different game.

Speaker 8 (30:36):
I never knew what the hell that was.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
I think I heard the first heard that saying like
in high school, maybe you know you're opening Pandora's box.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
I couldn't figure out who the hell Pandora was what
do you think, right?

Speaker 7 (30:50):
I mean I wanted to act like I knew yeah,
and I think it was a cod I mean I
think it was a coach. You know, you're you're opening
Pandora's box, and I'm like, I didn't know whether to
say no, I'm not, or like, yep, and I'm proud
of it.

Speaker 8 (31:05):
I didn't know. I didn't know how to respond to it.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (31:07):
I wouldn't figure out who Pandora was, Miss Pandora.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
I guess we'll have to gts. Yeah, mythology. I thought
it was a mythology thing, like, I mean, you know,
you know what it's used as.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Is like if once you open it, you can't know
what it's for.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
I've been living under a rock my whole life with me.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Somebody out there there's like, I don't.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
Know what that means either, exactly if there's anybody out
there listening to this show that it's the saying was
said to you, hey, you know what you're opening Pandora's
box that literally did not know what the person was trying.

Speaker 8 (31:42):
The point they were trying.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
To convey please textas will not kill you five six
six nine zero, he will.

Speaker 9 (31:49):
Tell you where I just looked this up. The thing
opening Pandora's box comes from Greek mythology. It refers to
the story of Pandora, the first woman, who was given
a box or jar by Zeus with strict instructions not
to open it. Driven by the curiosity, she disobeyed and
released all the evils and miseries of the world upon him.

Speaker 8 (32:11):
You know what stands the reason
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