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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the road that oil built in Weld County. A
warning to keep your eyes peeled. It's hard to miss
the big sign a friendly neighbor posted in his yard
along County Road forty nine, warning of a speed trap
four miles ahead. Easier to miss the small construction sign
warning of a photo radar a few hundred feet ahead, and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It drops from sixty five to fifty five to forty five, and.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Your eyes will bulge at the ticket you might get
if you miss that sign.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And I was like three hundred and forty dollars, and.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Tracy Miller called Steve on your side after she got
a photo radar ticket that didn't make any sense.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I was just in my mind, like, this has got
to be a typo.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Ashley Marazzik, who lives a couple miles up the road,
says she's already gotten six of them, all delivered weeks
after she's accused of driving too fast.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So I've gotten so many three hundred and forty dollars
tickets that I just can't afford them right now.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Both of them drove through this stretch of Weld County
where the speed limit reduces from sixty five five miles
an hour to forty five miles an hour in less
than a quarter of a mile.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
The camera sits not far from that forty five sign.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I literally looked up the statute that says the maximum
is forty dollars. So I did write to them and say,
can you explain to me where you came up with
the extra three hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Tracy still hasn't gotten a response back, but Tracy's right.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
A recent change.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
In Colorado state law allows municipalities to use photo radar
to issue tickets, but the law sets limits on what
municipalities can charge for those tickets forty dollars in a
normal stretch of road or eighty bucks in a school
or construction zone.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
This spot isn't a school or construction zone.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I think it's definitely a speed shrap, and it's a
moneymaker for that town of Kurzy.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It is a money maker.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Steve on your side learned since May the town has
already made about three hundred and sixteen thousand dollars writing
three hundred and forty dollars tickets alone, even though the
town's own ordinance regulating speed cameras sets up much smaller
cap on how much police are supposed to charge.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
The council said, no, the most you can do is
forty to eighty dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Criminal defense attorney Jeremy Low says rules and Curzy are
pretty clearly laid out.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
There's nothing illegal about speed traps. Once you hit that
forty five mile prow resulte. You need to be going
at that speed limit, and if you don't, the tickets
themselves are allowed. What isn't allowed is the amount of
money that they are charging.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So Steve on your side, asked the police chief, who
said the town ups the charge to three point forty
if drivers are found going twenty five or more. Over,
both Tracy and Ashley were clocked in the seventies passing
that forty five sign.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
The chief claims a carve out in state law allows this.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Certainly, don't believe the bill allows for anything over the
caps explicitly already in law.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Democratic state Representative Meg Frolick helped write that law and
says what Curzy is doing was not necessarily the intent
of that carve out.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
This is not meant to be a revenue generator for
the local government. This is supposed to be a safety component,
a tool, and a toolkit to get folks to flow down.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
He works for this town. He needs to follow this
town's rules.
Speaker 8 (03:10):
Lo says.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Anyone who gets a three hundred and forty dollars photo
ticket in Curzy should take it to court.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Bring up the law that shows that the most I
can even charge is the forty dollars.
Speaker 9 (03:22):
What do you want people to know if they get
a ticket going through here?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Challenge it or contact Steve and say, hey, is this legal?
Speaker 9 (03:31):
So, the chief argues, anyone driving twenty five or over
the speed limit would technically be committing a criminal traffic
offense worth six points on your license and a guaranteed
court summons if a police officer pulled you over and
gave you a ticket. These tickets don't come with any points,
only that fee. When we ask the chief how this
complies with his own town's ordinance, he replied that he's
(03:53):
now reviewing that internally and he'll get back to us.
I'm Steve Steger, Steve on your side.
Speaker 10 (03:59):
I knew so, Steve, for all the people that have
already paid that ticket, because we saw how much money
you know that it has generated, will they ever get
their money back? Three dollars over forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's a good question.
Speaker 9 (04:11):
You know, the state law does have that little carve out,
and it'll be interesting to see if the courts say
that that carve out worked. But in this case, Curzy's
ordinance that they wrote specifically four photo radar says you
can only charge forty dollars in that area. So it'll
be interesting to see if anybody tries to challenge that.
(04:32):
I'd imagine somebody would have to challenge it and say,
I've already paid this, but I shouldn't have had to
pay this. I'd imagine the next court dayton in Curzytown,
court's going to.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Be a little busy.
Speaker 11 (04:42):
Steve, thank you, Steve Steger nine News. For those of
you that live in Wild County and more specifically Cursey
or if you drive through there, I want to hear
from you. Five seven seven three nine. Now, obviously I
saw World County and my first thought goes to our
next guest, the sheriff of the county.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Now that's a key distinction here. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 11 (05:01):
Joining us this morning to talk more about this issue.
It'swelled County town Curzy charging three hundred and forty dollars
for some speeding tickets despite the rule capping them at
forty dollars. Sheriff Steve Raims joins us Weld County Sheriff.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I'm good? How are you wrong doing?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
All right?
Speaker 11 (05:18):
You and I have talked about this though, the whole
speed radar trap, the camera stuff, but you're not a
big fan of it. I'm not a big fan of it.
But this is again a municipality. What is your relationship
like with the chief in Kurzy?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Is it Jonathan Lang?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, Jonathan used to be a deputy here. I mean
we have a working relationship.
Speaker 12 (05:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
He left here and went into some work with a
private vendor, a software vendor, and then came back into
law enforcement and turned up as the chief out in Kerzy.
You know, that was their decision to hire, and so
you know, they make their decisions out there.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
So what does this?
Speaker 11 (06:00):
I mean, you're the sheriff of the county, but obviously
this is a separate jurisdiction in the municipality. That sounds
pretty steep to me though, For the infraction involved three
hundred and forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
This woman's got six of them.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, So I'm not a fan of speed cameras for
a few reasons. One, there's no instant feedback. When a
law enforced mobster pulls you over. There's a chance to
have a conversation at the side of the road see
if there were any mitigating circumstances for why someone may
have been going over the speed limit. You know, there's
a chance to do a little bit of public education,
and it's immediate feedback on these speed cameras. Someone goes through,
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you know, they may be unaware that they pass through
that zone. And just like your audio said, you know,
some of these people are getting tickets six weeks later.
In fact, my son was a victim, if you will,
of the speed the speed camera, and he had no
idea that he had been speeding through that zone. And
(06:58):
I'll explain a little bit more of that in a minute,
but it's just not it's not instant feedback. So by
the time you're getting this ticket, you don't even realize
that you needed to correct your behavior. And that's why
these people may have gotten multiple tickets going through the zone,
because they're just they're not seeing it. I mean, you know,
you get used to driving a certain stretch of road
and when when things change along the way, you just
(07:20):
may not pick them up. You know, you're you're accustomed
to what the speed zone, speed limits used to be,
and you know you're just cruising along. The more troubling
part is kind of Ride forty nine where this is happening.
That was previously in the county's jurisdiction and the speed
limits were a little different at that time. The town
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of Curzy Flagline annexed up to that area and took
some of that intersection, and then of course made some
changes in the speed limits and it put up the
speed cameras. So I am getting a lot of questions
or angry comments from people out in the community, going
why are you doing this? And my response is I'm not.
(08:02):
Go see your city council or go see the town council.
Out there. A couple of town council members approached me
at a recent event and said, hey, you know, here's
the reason we're doing it. I'm like, that's fine, explain
it to your constituents. I'm not going to support it.
I don't like the idea, but you're accountable to your constituents,
you're accountable to citizens just like I am. And we
(08:23):
just don't see this issue the same. I just I'm
not a fan of these things. I don't think I
look at them as revenue generators just like them like
many people do. And especially when you're when you're putting
out three hundred and forty dollars tickets, I don't think
that's in the spirit of what the statue change allowed for.
And it definitely it rubbed people the wrong way for
(08:46):
obvious reasons.
Speaker 11 (08:47):
Well County Sheriff Steve Rings joining us talking about this
town of Kurzy with this speed change. So I'm trying
to paint the picture here, and you know this area
a lot better than I do. Sure, if one other
reason that I brought you on here and the story
as it drops from sixty five down to forty five,
can you give us an idea of approximately you know,
how much distance there is between that speed drop, how
(09:09):
much a notification via signage there is you said your
son was nailed in this zone exactly as well? Is
this a construction zone? Is this a residential area? What's
the story there?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, it's so KNY forty nine is a four lane
county highway. Welld County built this to take some to
alleviate pressure off of Highway eighty five and I twenty
five for commuter traffic going north and south through the county.
It's a It's an eighteen mile stretch of highway that
the county funded and built and mostly maintains. Of course,
Hudson and Couragey has taken up a little bit of
(09:41):
real estate on each end, but it's a major thoroughth
prayer through welld County. I drive it almost every day,
and if you're coming from the south to the north,
where a lot of the people are getting these tickets,
the speed limit drops from sixty five down to forty
five and a relatively short distance I'm going to say
maybe a quarter mile or less. And so during those
(10:06):
that drop in speed zone, there's some signage up to
say speed camera ahead. Typically this is temporary signage that
needs to be out on the side of the road
to let people know that there's this temporary photo radar
thing there. You know, we have high winds in Weld County.
The signage may not always be as visible. I'm sure
that's some arguments that people are making. But if you're
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coming from the south to the north, the speed camera
is a little more visible, there's a little more signage.
In my opinion, The question is if you're coming from
the north to the south, A lot of people are
turning off of Highway thirty four, which is a major
east west thoroughfare that goes through Weld County, and that
intersection is only about a quarter mile from where the
(10:49):
speed sign is I'm sorry, from where the speed camera is.
So if you're turning off of Highway thirty four and
you're starting to travel south down County Rope forty nine,
I have not seen any kind of signage that indicates
that there's a speed camera. And it's a natural progression
when you're turning off of Highway thirty four to get
up to highway speeds the speed limit of sixty five.
(11:11):
So some people are going to be a little more
aggressive and getting up to that sixty five mile an
hour speed and they're doing they're doing so before they
get to where that speed camera is. And that's what
got my son, that's what's gotten I think a whole
lot of travelers because there's just there's not a lot
of in my opinion, there's not a lot of concern
(11:31):
for someone turning away from that intersection and getting up
to highway speed, and maybe they're doing so a little
faster than where the Town of Kurzy is set those
speed limit signs. When when this section of road was
in the county, speed related to this particular area wasn't
necessarily a concern for us when it came to traffic enforcement.
(11:53):
There have been some accidents in that intersection, but it's
typically related to people not paying attention to the traffic lights.
I don't know if speed is necessarily benefactor there.
Speaker 11 (12:02):
Well, County Sheriff Steve Rehams joining us with this story
from nine News about the town of Kurzy charging three
hundred and forty dollars for these speeding tickets.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
It drops twenty miles per hour.
Speaker 11 (12:12):
From sixty five to forty five despite a rule camping
them at forty. So there's some area of dispute and
confusion consternation.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
There as well.
Speaker 11 (12:21):
So, Sheriff, you've given a good illustration of what this
looks like, what people can anticipate. This can serve as
a good public service message to be aware of your
surroundings when you're going into this area. On will County
Road forty nine near Colorado Highway thirty four, but in
the aftermath of it, you have correctly I think turned
this the cash grab. If I'm not mistaken from the story,
(12:42):
over three hundred thousand dollars worth of revenue has been
generated from it. So let's say your son or somebody
that I know, me who knows gets popped with this
ticket at that amount, would it be productive to fight
that ticket, go to traffic court get that number knocked down?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
What's the typical kind of outcome for that?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
There is a process and I think they even outline
it on the Town of Kurzy website. If you want
to challenge the ticket, you know, you can have your
day in court, and basically I guess the administrator of
this camera system will come in and argue, you know
is they'll argue their case. You argue why you don't
think you should have to pay the fine. I think
on the forty dollars fines, people are probably likely just
(13:22):
to say it's not worth my time, right, But on
these three hundred and forty dollars tickets, you know, those
are issued when you're doing twenty five miles an hour
or more over the speed limit is what is what
the messaging has been And I got to tell you,
I think because of kind of the question of you know,
the legality of these these fines, I think there are
going to be quite a few people that go and
(13:44):
challenge those three hundred and forty dollars tickets because you know,
I don't know that there is solid on those grounds,
and that's that's a hefty amount of money. Regardless, you
still have the option for your day in court. And
you know, I've told people I can't fix this for
this is an issue you need to go talk with
the Town of Curzy about. Yeah. I don't know if
people are showing up to their town council meetings, but
(14:05):
I would suspect they probably.
Speaker 11 (14:07):
Are well appreciate the clarification there. He's a multi talented individual.
Old County Sheriff Steve Raimes. He was filling in for
Dan Camplas yesterday and oh, by the way, landed himself
a very important interview with Victor Marx. We played some
of that sound in the previous hour from my breakdown
of some audio that we had from Darcy shaning her
(14:27):
research into the background of Victor Marx, and as I mentioned,
Sheriff Rames conducted a three segment interview on the Dan
Camplis Show yesterday.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
We'll get to some of those clips coming up in our.
Speaker 11 (14:37):
Next segment, but some texts here, Ryan, I think Victor
is the new George Santos. Okay, this one says there
was a guy in the neighborhood that always had fire
fetch stories like Victor Marx. We called him Stretch. That's
from Dave in the hood. And then this one's a
little mean. Ryan, just sitting in my work truck listening
to the interview from yesterday, it just sounded like Victor
(14:59):
is a white version of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
That's not nice.
Speaker 11 (15:02):
But Sheriff Reames, I thought you did a stellar job
really of presenting Victor Marx with an appropriate platform to
address some of these concerns, to address some of these rumors,
to address stories that he has put out there himself
that needs some cleaning up or clarifications. So I just
want to get your take on that conversation that you
had and what your takeaways were from it.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Well, you know, I walked into this this interview, or
conducted that interview with the idea of, hey, you know,
he's running for office, he's had these stories out here.
I do have some questions about it, but you know,
if you're if you listen to the interview. I started
out just by asking me, where do you stand on
some policy stuff? And I don't think I don't think
(15:46):
his his answers were really, you know, succinct in saying,
this is where I stand on particular issues, whether it
be public safety, whether it be road conditions. And because
of how much information he has out there his background,
I felt it was only appropriate to ask him some
of the questions that most rattle my brain when you're
(16:07):
talking about a law enforcement perspective. And the two major
questions I asked him about was an incident that occurred
when he was seven years old that he's reported in
some podcasts, and then another one that was kind of
floating out there by him having potentially been in custody
in the United Arab immorants and his responses to those
were his version of the story. And whether or not
(16:30):
people believe what he had to say, I guess is
a matter of them fact checking him and figuring that
out down the road.
Speaker 11 (16:36):
Now that you've had some time to kind of mariny
it on it and I have as well. And again
I thought the interview is extremely well done and fair
to Victor. What maybe remaining questions concerns do you have?
What would you ask him if you had another chance
to have that conversation with him.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think my biggest concern is the incident he talks
about when he was aged seven and his stepdad, you know, worked,
I guess, forced him to allegedly shoot a man in
the back of the head and killing somebody. Is if that,
if that incident is true, and I have no reason
to believe it isn't. I mean, he told it on
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the radio. There's a there's a person out there whose
family has never had closure. If if that, and I,
you know, as a law enforcement person, I can't imagine
someone coming into my office saying, hey, I was a
part of this. There's no way that I blow that off.
And I have a hard time believing that any law
enforcement agency would say, hey, well that was a long
(17:36):
time ago. We're not gonna be able to figure that out.
So if that, if that is truly what happened. And
Victor said, hey, we went down and talked to the
local I think he said, the local sheriff, and too
much time had passed. I think I'd be I think
I'd be looking for a second opinion. He said he
had talked with some of his FBI friends, but I
don't know that that's formally talking with, you know, a
(17:58):
law enforcement agency. So I think some some more clarity
needs to be provided there as to what have you
done to try to reconcile this issue, because Victor said
he does have some guilt over that, you know, he
feels bad for that incident, even though he may not
have been, you know, ultimately responsible for what happened there.
You know, I can't imagine being involved in something like
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that and not getting some kind of closure, even for myself,
of saying, who was this person, who was his family?
You know, did someone find out what happened? Those are
just a lot of questions that I can't I can't
imagine not having answered.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Very well said and again very well conducted interview.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
You can catch that on the podcast for the Dan
Caplis Show from yesterday's Sheriff Steve Raims just putting on
another hat as talk show host an interviewer there and
giving us some clarification on this curzy speed trap. You
want to look out for that as well. Sheriff, thank you,
as always for your time. We'll talk again soon. Thanks,
Ran all right, and coming up next we'll have some
of those highlights from the interview that Sheriff Teams had
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Speaker 11 (20:33):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes.
Churning the forty seventh president's epic interactions with a fake
news media.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Is a one week for Congress through with the ftin files.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Why not just do it now?
Speaker 13 (20:45):
It's not the question that I mind, it's your EDITID.
I think you are a terrible reporter. It's the way
you ask these questions. You start off with a man
who's highly respected asking him a horrible the in subordinate
and just a terrible question. And you could even ask
that same exact question and I said, you all psyched.
(21:07):
Somebody sets you over at ABC and you gonna psycho.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
You're a terrible person. And a terrible reporter.
Speaker 13 (21:17):
As far as the Epstein Files is, I have nothing
to do with Jeffy Epstein. I threw him out of
my club many years ago because I thought he was
a sick perverb. But I guess I would turn out
to be right. But you know who does have Bill Letton?
Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night,
every single weekend. They lived together. They went to his
(21:38):
island many times. I never did.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Andrew Weissman here. All these guys were friends of us.
Speaker 13 (21:46):
You don't even talk about those people. You just keep
going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is
is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not
to be able to talk about the twenty one trillion
dollars that I talked about today.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
To hoax. Now, I just got a little report and
I put it in my.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
Pocket of all the money that he's given to Democrats.
He gave me none, zero, no money to me, but
he gave money to democrats.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And people are wise to your hoax.
Speaker 13 (22:16):
And ABC's your company, your crappy company is one of
the perpetrators.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
And I'll tell you something. I'll tell you something.
Speaker 13 (22:24):
I think the license should be taken away from ABC
because your news is so fake and is so wrong,
And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should
look at that, because I think when you come in
and when you're ninety seven percent negative to Trump and
then Trump wins the election in a landslide, that means
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obviously your news is not credible and you're not credible
as a reporter.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
So I've answered your question.
Speaker 13 (22:51):
You should go and look at the Democrats who received
money from Epstein, who spent their time. Larry Summers was
with them all the time, That creep the fund guy
was with him all the time. What's his name, Read Hoffman.
I don't know Reid Hoffman, but I know he spends
(23:11):
a lot of money on the radical left.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Reid Hoffman, in my opinion, should.
Speaker 13 (23:15):
Be under investigation. He's a sleeves bag and those are
the people, but they don't get any press, they don't
get any news. And you're not after the radical left
because you're a radical left network. But I think the
way you ask a question with the anger and the
meanness is terrible.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You're to go back and learn how to be a reporter.
No more questions from you.
Speaker 11 (23:35):
Wow, that was over three minutes of President Trump just
eviscerating Mary Bruce of ABC News. Now, taking just in
that lengthy excerpt, You're like, what in the world set
him off to that degree. Well, I'll reveal that for
you coming up in our second hour. There was a
(23:56):
sequence of events as the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia
paid a visit to the Oval Office. Now, not everybody's
happy about that, And I understand that Saudi Arabia is
one of our most tenuous allies on the planet. They
have a very important geopolitical position in world affairs, particularly
when it comes to oil, but also stability in the
(24:18):
Middle East. Now, stability doesn't mean that the regime is
a just one. And what led to the fury there
expressed by Donald Trump toward Mary Bruce was her tone
as he said at the beginning of that installment of
Trump's hot Takes, in which she asked directly to Muhammed
(24:42):
ben Sulman NBS whether or not his regime was responsible
for the murder of the Saudi Arabian journalist Kashogi. He
may have heard about this. It's pretty brutal, it's pretty gruesome,
and the interesting fact of the matter of the irony
of the whole thing is whether or not MBS had
anything to do with it. Now, he pretty eloquently spells
(25:05):
out that either he didn't know about it or there
was some miscommunication. It shouldn't have happened there, they took
steps that it won't happen again. We'll get to that
sound an hour or two as well. But had she
said that on Saudi Arabian soil as a reporter for
Al Jazeera or whoever else is covering the Crown Prince,
she wouldn't have just gotten a nasty talking to. There
(25:28):
might have been much more severe consequences. And that's one
of the benefits, one of the luxuries of living in
the United States of America. Now, President Trump, well, you
know he tends to cozy up to these types MBS.
You know, this is not exactly a paragon of virtue
in the Middle East. But again, geopolitically, he stands to
(25:48):
join the Abraham Accords, which would make for a powerful
alliance with Israel and other pro Western nations in the region,
like you were, United Arab Emirates, and and that would
contribute to the boxing out of Iran and perhaps permanently
sidelining them and undermining their.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Power in the region. So you have to think about this.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
Yes, not three dimensional chess like Kamala Harris claimed she
played against President Trump in the twenty twenty four campaign.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
The four dimensional chess, and it really does go in
some ways.
Speaker 11 (26:24):
Trump adheres to the Michael Corleone philosophy which Michael learned
in The Godfather from Don Vito, which is keep your
friends close, but keep your enemies closer. And especially these
tenuous alliances. He is trying in many ways, President Trump
to tap dance on the head of a pin. And
he's got to very carefully navigate and negotiate this. And
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when you have a Mary Bruce coming in mucking up
the works, you will see exactly what drew the dander
of the president in the Oval office. Today, your tax
at five seven seven three nine are thanks to Sheriff
Steve Riams may have heard.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I was filling in the morning and I found.
Speaker 11 (27:01):
That conversation both on the speeding tickets up darren Weeld County,
which he has nothing to do with. Is the sheriff.
That's a county wide position that he holds. This is
a local municipality that was handing out these exorbitant ticket finds,
and he's.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Not exactly a fan of it, but there's not a
whole lot he can do.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
And of course he conducted a very interesting and intimate
interview with Victor Marx by phone. Victor, originally scheduled to
just start the program as the sheriff was filling in
for Dan Camplis yesterday, ended up spending three segments with.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Sheriff Steve Riams, and we'll get to some highlights.
Speaker 11 (27:37):
From that conversation when we come back to close out
hour one, along with your texts five seven, seven, three
nine on Ryan Schruling Live.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
I know that's a.
Speaker 14 (27:50):
Heavy burden to carry, especially from the age of seven.
I just have to ask, from the law enforcement perspective,
have you gone back and tried to work with law
enforcement agencies and figure out what happened and give some
closure to that man or that man's family. I mean,
has there been any investigative efforts to try to figure
that out?
Speaker 12 (28:11):
He sound like a true sheriff And the answer is yes.
More out of guilt, sure, and not appropriate guilt. But
I talked to friends of mine and FBI, and then
I went to the par of that county, and they
just said, sir, it's been decades and we don't know
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who the victim was, and your father is now his stepfather,
he's now dead, and they just said, there's no way
we can. I gave the best description I knew as
a seven year old man kind of looked homeless to me.
But I did all I could. And you know, it's
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the hardest things. I think some people, victims who've been
hurt and abused, are going through tragedy. I call it
lies based in reality, where the threats are so real.
Him saying he was going to call the police on
me as a kid, you just well, I mean, you
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know it is. You compartmentalize things. And I didn't speak
a word of that. I think it's part of the
survival mechanism to just go compartmentalize.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Just some think about that stuff.
Speaker 12 (29:37):
But before God, I have a clear conscience that I've tried.
The Only reason why I bring up my past because look,
I was successful, we lived in Hawaii. I had no
benefit to bring up through the torture, physical torture I've
been through, the sexual abuse. There was no personal gain
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or benefit for me to bring this up. Sure, and
you know it's I had one hundred and twenty three
visits to Toronto specialist, but I did it to help
other people. Let them though, you're not alone, those who suffered,
those who suffered ancest abuse, being beaten, even like you
having to stand up in the light of all it's
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just evil. It's the shame was never yours and you
shouldn't have to carry guilts around for choices of adults,
Oh you who've done evil against you.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
Victor Marx with Sheriff Steve Reims filling in for Dan
Kamplis yesterday, he uses the phrase lies based in reality,
the compartmentalization of a seven year old going through that trauma.
I understand that now, he says, the only reason I
bring up this about my past right there, he's got
to stop. Victor Marx is in the political arena. Now
all bets are off everything. Anything about his past is
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going to be looked into and dug into.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And you know what his own team should.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
Be doing that the way you launch your political campaign,
and I speak to this having watched these types of
things transpire over the last forty years of my life.
You have to operate as oppo research on your own candidate,
on your own campaign. You have to be transparent, you
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have to be fourth rate, honest. Anything in your past
embarrassing because it's gonna get got and you're gonna get
found out. And if you don't do it yourself or
your team doesn't do it, by God, you better believe
your opponents are gonna get there with the well funded
campaign apparatus that Michael Bennett, the likely Democratic nominee for governor,
is going to have his operatives, his smear merchants, his
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spin doctors, everybody underneath that umbrella. There's already a lot
of smoke out there. And the thing is, the fact
of the matter is Victor himself, before I even thought
he would have a political career career, put that out there.
It's out there. It's going to get dug into. Don't
pretend it's not. Don't be naive anybody involved with this.
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You've got to be clear eyed about this. And either
you're in it to win it or you're not. Those
are the two options. It is a binary choice. It
is black and white. There's no gray area. Are you
in it to win it? And if you are, then
you've got to do the digging and you've got to
be honest. Now, what I've seen in a post from
Victor Mark since this interview was conducted, and again masterfully
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done in my opinion by Sheriff Steve Riams, is they
are now developing a website like Victor Marx Fact something
like that, where they debunk theories, hoaxes, et cetera. Now
I are conferred with Sheriff Steve Reams about where this
incident happened, this alleged incident where his stepfather takes him
out in the woods, this remote location, a house, murders
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this man, gun to the back of the guy's head.
Victor seven years old, seven years old is a revolver.
He can't pull the trigger on the revolo, of course
he can't. His stepfather puts his hand over Victor's hand
on the gun, pulls the trigger, kills the guy.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Buries him, threatens the kid.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
If you ever tell anybody your fingerprints are on the gun,
You're going to be charged with murder.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You're going to be electrocuted. It's pretty traumatic.
Speaker 11 (33:12):
And now apparently he revealed on the Sean Ryan podcast
that this happened in Mississippi, just across the Louisiana border. Now, you,
along with me, likely have watched a lot of true
crime programs in your life. Where I would start and
certainly not where I would leave it. Again, if I'm
in the unfortunate shoes of Victor Marks in this situation,
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I can't imagine going through that as a seven year old.
But to get to the bottom of it, where are
the missing person reports from that area that region? Start there?
There had to have been some kind of investigation. This
man existed, he died, he had family members, and if
they didn't know that he died and they didn't know
where he was, then he certainly would have been reported
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missing at some point. Then you backtrack. This is called
detective work. It's done all the time, and these are
the questions that remain. You can't just leave this hanging.
It's not Victor's fault. But now you've left this unanswered question,
this threat on the sweater, to be pulled by the
Democratic Party of Colorado. And I will guarantee you this
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prove me wrong right now, whether it's wiser and more
likely Bennett, as they eyeball the twenty candidates and the
GOP primary for governor, who do you think they want
Victor Marx is right for the picking if he continues
down this road of trying to deflect, deny. There's a
quote here about a legend imprisonment in UAE. He denies
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outright that had even happened. I've got conflicting reports out
there from people that are doing some investigating that it
appeared this story about him being in prison in the
United Arab Emirates in one of his books, one of
his own books. We're looking to find those details. And
here's the thing for those of you in the audience.
I know there are many of you who are Victor
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Marx fans. Don't shoot the messenger. I'm the one trying
to help here before it gets to a point where
it's beyond help, and we are in a Dan Mays situation,
as you might recall from all those years ago. A
time out, we'll get to more of that sound Victor
Marx with Sheriff Steve Reims from yesterday's edition of The
Dan Kaplis Show and the Trump sound that got him
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so fired up at ABC