One year after the shooting of Donald Trump in a Butler, Pennsylvania field, Ryan reflects on where he was when he heard the news, along with what we know - and still don't khow - about the events of that day.
James Rosen, Newsmax chief Washington correspondent joins Ryan to discuss the Trump administration's lawsuit against the California Interscholastic Federation lawsuit, following his exclusive interview with assistant attorney general Harmeet Dhillon.
James Rosen, Newsmax chief Washington correspondent joins Ryan to discuss the Trump administration's lawsuit against the California Interscholastic Federation lawsuit, following his exclusive interview with assistant attorney general Harmeet Dhillon.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you want to really see something, that said, take
a look at what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I need my microphone on. We just heard gunshots a
former President Trump's campaign event in Pennsylvania. We do not
see former President Trump's standing right now. We see a
group of people gathering around the space where he once stood.
We now see armed guards. We don't know if those
are law enforcement or his private security detail. And we
(00:48):
heard screams from the crowd. We do not know where
those gunshots came from. You are looking live in Pennsylvania.
It's an emotional scene, and we do not know what happened.
Heard gunshots that sounded upon the first few minutes a
former President Trump's speech. It looks like they're lifting him up.
Is he okay? Can anybody see anything? They're moving the
(01:13):
podium to appear to block him, so he's on his feet. However,
we do not know if he's been struck by bullets.
Now he's raising his hand. It looks like he's raising
his hand and people are cheering. Do we have audio, guys,
can we raise the audio from the crowd. We have blood.
It looks like one of my crew here says that
(01:34):
they saw blood on his ear.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But look at him. He's pumping his fist.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Guys, bring up the audio a little bit more at
this live event.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Bring the audio up, please.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That is remarkable.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
You have just witnessed history live from this Trump event.
This is a Trump campaign event, just days from the
RNC former president, and it Trump potentially hit by gunfire.
We have to confirm. But he is still raising his
arm in what looks to be courage confidence, saying that
he's okay to that crowd. It looks like people have
turned around and are flipping off. You guys, be careful
(02:14):
with this shot. I don't know if the cameraman's flipping.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You can see.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We apologize in advance, but they turn around.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Thank you for bringing up the audio.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Keep the audio up. We're going to listen in for
a second.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well I was right, and that footage I believed from
Newsmax covering an event in real time. Channaes asked the question,
you know, of all the Trump rallies and events last year,
this was the one that CNN took live. There weren't many,
and I don't know that there were more than just
this one. But it was happenstance, coincidence. I don't know
(02:55):
you fill in the blanks on that. But I just
have to comment from a you're an alistic standpoint as
somebody who has covered live events in the past that
are unpredictable in nature, be the sporting event as a
playoff plan announcer. I mean, that's what she was doing there,
But it was under such duress and inflamed circumstances. I
(03:15):
thought she did a magnificent job of staying in the moment,
of keeping her composure, of watching what was happening. Now,
remember there's a video element to this, and she's calling
for the audio to come up and what shot, you know,
actually doing a good job of directing traffic there, because
you know, to defend the producers and those that work
behind the scenes. You know, you're not expecting this. Yeah,
(03:36):
it's kind of a typical Trump rally. Butler Pennsylvania. He's talking,
he's looking at a graph, he's what bullets And now
you've got to totally shift and pivot and you're covering
a historical event in real time. And she recognizes that
very early on. And there are only a couple of
other instances of this that you can really compare it to.
(03:57):
In most people's lifetimes in which television existed, or live
coverage of events like this existed in the aftermath. Now,
we didn't see what happened until the Zapruder film came out,
but in the aftermath of the jfk assassination, Walder Cronkit
of course was iconic in his coverage with his glasses
and taking them off and reading that President Kennedy had died,
(04:20):
and choking up on the emotion of that movement, that
gravity of that moment, and how well Walder Cronkite performed
the under those impossible circumstances. But they're seared in the
image and the minds of those that lived through it,
and even in somebody like me. I mean, I wasn't
born for another ten or so years, but that stands out.
(04:40):
And then I remember the immediate aftermath in the live coverage.
I was at my grandmother's house back in the early
eighties when the attempt on President Reagan's life by John
Hinckley Junior happened, and you watch him coming out and
everything they've done, you know, the Secret Service review of
(05:00):
that instance. I think a lot of the modifications that
were made following the attempt on Ronald Reagan's life are
a big reason why we had not seen an assassin,
an ancient attempt on another president since that time, Not
through the four years of Herbert Walker Bush, not through
the eight years of President Bill Clinton, not through the
(05:21):
eight years of George W. Bush, not through the eight
years of Barack Obama, and not through the previous four
years of Donald Trump, and not through the four years
of Joe Biden until this happened July thirteenth, a year
ago yesterday, and it raises a lot more questions than
it does provide answers. But I remember in the wake
of the Reagan assassination attempt, I was maybe seven, six
(05:44):
seven somewhere. I was a little boy, and my grandmother
was beside herself. She was despondent. She was recalling the
details of the Kennedy assassination as she remembered them, and
I was just with her in real time. As they
were covering this, I think was Ted Copple that we
were watching and that Ronald Reagan had been shot. You
could see the look on his face as he was
hustled into the limousine. They went right to the hospital.
(06:06):
From there they had apprehended Hinkley on the scene. You
saw a video of that, and then it lent itself
to parody, and I think this is important for America
at that moment. It was I think it was Joe
Piscopo who was portraying Ted Copple, and it was Eddie
Murphy as Buckwheat, and they recreated this whole thing, obviously
(06:26):
as a parody of the Reagan attempt as the assassination
of Buckwheat, and it was some levity at least in
a moment where America was on edge. And I remember
that well. And I remember well obviously a year ago
where I was Kelly Cacera, She and I and Christian
Toto and Alexa and Frandy. We were all down gathered
(06:47):
in Colorado Springs awaiting that night's comedy show to be
headlined by Jimmy Phyla of Fox News, and he had
appeared on this program to promote that event. We talked
about it, he and I and we would end up
getting together with Jimmy after the show, and we talked
about this, obviously, and it was a moment at a
restaurant I'll never forget. And I'm kind of just passively
(07:07):
scrolling through Twitter x at the time, and I'm seeing
post after post about President Trump being shot, and in
this new information age where the reliability of that kind
of information in real time is specious at best, I
kind of withheld judgment onto confirmation of that until I
saw it from some more credible sources. And they didn't
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know what they didn't know. And you heard what was
described there in real time by the female anchor of
that news network, and they're going to believe that was Newsmax,
and the descriptions therein the blood coming from the ear,
it had appeared to have been shot. But of course
on went these other conclusions in the aftermath. I think
Christopher Ray was one of them. FBI, So, oh, maybe
it was a glass shrapnel from the teleprompter that cut
(07:52):
his ear. One, why would that matter? There was an
attempt on his life. Are you trying to downplay or
diminish it? Oh, it wasn't really a bullet. It was
just a fragment of class he was shot at. You know,
that wasn't that big of a deal. It wasn't as
big of a deal. We don't want this to make
any kind of political hay for the president. We don't
want that iconic photo of the fist rays and the
blood coming down the ear and Sean Kerran with his
(08:14):
glasses on from the his sunglasses from the Secret Service,
staring directly into the camera, and the American flag in
the background in what would be celebrated under normal circumstances
in the United States of America as one of the
iconic images of the twenty first century. But if you'll recall,
at that time, that was going to do too much
damage to Joe Biden's campaign, and it was going to
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be too much of a help to Donald Trump's campaign
because that was going to lock it in right when
Americans see that image of a president, a former president
running for reelection and a fist race in the air
in the immediate aftermath of being shot in the ear,
and what was his reaction, No, no, I gotta get
my shoes, I got to stand up, I gotta show
that crowd. I'm okay, and I'm going to chant fight,
(08:59):
fight Fight. They struck that image from the cover of
Time magazine. They put a more broad, long shot image
of the scene at Butler, Pennsylvania instead. That was with intent.
That was with intent because it was a political calculation.
They knew if that image ran as the cover of
Time magazine Election over over, but they wanted to do
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everything they could to contain the political gain for Donald
Trump in that moment. That's how sick and twisted these
people on the left are they thinking those very cynical
terms of they hate this man that much that he
was almost murdered on live television in front of all
of America. And yet the polling of Democrats, I don't
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remember the exact number, but was a lot more than
zero of Democrats. I want to say it was in
the neighborhood of thirty percent, maybe more. They said, you
know what, maybe we would have been better off had
Thomas Crooks been successful in his assassination. Tim, I'm gonna
tell you this right now. Well, there was Barack Obama,
who I voted for once the biggest mistake in my
political life, did not again. But if it was him
(10:04):
during his eight years and I disagreed vehemently with a
lot of Barack Obama's policies, or whether it was Joe
Biden or had Hillary Clinton, god forbid, won the election
twenty sixteen, never would I ever had the monstrosity of
a mindset saying, you know what, maybe America would be
better off if the president of the United States was assassinated. No,
we would not be. And I don't care which party
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the individual who was president at that time was. It
is a horrifying tragedy for America when that happens, when
it has happened in our history, be it Abraham Lincoln
or Thomas McKinley or James Garfield or John F. Kennedy,
it would never would it ever be a good thing
to be celebrated or that, you know, be a net
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gain Orange man bad. You are demented and you have
no soul, if that's what you believe, If that's how
seriously you take your politics, if your politics are your religion,
that's where that path leads to that darkness. A year later,
we don't have a lot of answers, and if you'd
missed it, I invite you to check out my interview
(11:09):
with Susan Crabtree. She's simply the best when it comes
to covering matters of national security and her sourcing within
the Secret Service itself, including Sean Kerrn, who I believe
she knows personally, and she's been very forthright and honest
in her assessments both positive and negative of Current. She
is close with Dan Bongino as well. In course, Bongino
(11:31):
was very critical of the hire when Sean Kerran, who
was on the detail, who was heading up the detail
on that day in Butler, Pennsylvania for the Secret Service,
when he was elevated to the director position after Kim
Cheedle left member she left in disgrace. And then Ron
Rowe I think his name was, and he was very
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unimpressive on Capitol Hill during testimony in stepped Seawan Current.
And I was skeptical too, and I still am. I mean,
we all should be. There's a healthy level of skepticism
that comes after an event like that that it shouldn't
have happened. Where were the breakdowns with the breaches in security?
Why was that metal shed not secured? Not part of
the plan? How was Thomas Crooks able to get into
(12:14):
that event armed perch himself up on top of that
building and take eight open shots at the President of
the United States, the former president of that time. These
are unanswered questions. And even Susan Crabtree told us that, Yeah,
the only thing that came out of this and I
think this is a disgrace. What did we get in
terms of punishment or consequences for the Secret Service and
(12:36):
that ultimate failure, that catastrophic failure, that but for the
grace of God that Donald Trump turned his head to
look at a chart, his head would have been blown
off on live television. That was as big of a
failure by the Secret Service as has ever happened on
their watch. And what do we get six suspensions without pay?
(12:57):
Is that what had turned out to be right? No firing,
no firings. And in fact, like I just mentioned, Sean
Kerrn was promoted here, the promotion out of that, he
should be apologizing for that. Like I can't believe they
promoted me. I'm going to do whatever it takes to
clean up this department to get on the right track.
I will never forget a day in my life. What
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happened that day and my part in it, my role
in it, my responsibility for it, my accountability and it
happening at all was on me. Have you heard Sean
Kerrn say that, because short of that, I don't find
that to be acceptable, not one bit. Here's Representative Pat
Fhalon on that day talking about that day rather over
the weekend. Republican Texas.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Not only did the the Secret Services not share this
with other agencies, they didn't share it with President Trump's
detail that Iran was posed a dire threat to President
Trump's life, he should have been receiving at that time
because it was a very unique circumstance. He was the
former president, he was a nation state was trying to
assassinate him for hours since he took as president. He
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was also the leading candidate to be the next.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
President, which he is now. He should have had.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
A security that was commisserate with a sitting US president
because of the unique nature of who who he was,
who he is, and the threat at that time.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
A detail lost in a lot of this. Did you know,
doctor Jill Biden, the first Lady of the United States,
had a higher level priority security detail than former President
Donald Trump on that day? Are you kidding me with
that madness? That's insanity, absolute madness. She wasn't too far
(14:38):
you're right, geographically, and those resources were dedicated to her
rather than the former president of the United States. And
with this added sensitivity of Iran having him clearly targeted.
Not only there was a nexus between Thomas Crooks, this
potunk kid, and Iran I don't think he was sophisticated
enough for that. I could be wrong, but nobody's telling
(15:00):
us anything. But I remember where I was. I remember
sharing this information with Christian Toto, with Kelly Caacerra, with Alexa,
with Frandy, and just the looks on our face as
we turned ash in our jaws drop. We're watching on
my phone the video live coverage of this. Jimmy Fayla
opens his act saying, look, I know what happened today,
but what we know as of that night was President
(15:21):
Trump was going to be okay and let's have a
good night to laughs. And I thought Jimmy played that
very well because that was not an easy circumstance for
him to find himself in. Here's more from Representative Pat Falen,
Republican in Texas.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
So it needs to have been moving forward. Is the leadership,
of course, did change. Catle's gone, Row's gone. And that's
very important because it starts at the top, and you
need to embrace technology, you need to change the training.
There's cultural changes that need to be made, and they're
starting to be made by Director Current and that's a
very positive thing. But in bridging technology, if you remember
two weeks after the attempt in Butler, there was another
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attempt in Florida, and that fella was laying in wait,
That assassin was laying weight for twelve hours. It have
never happened as you had infrared technology, drones, robodogs, and
even old fashioned, good old sniffing German shepherds, they would
have literally sniffed him out within twenty or thirty minutes,
not waiting for twelve hours.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So there's a lot yet to be done. Dan Bongino
famously said off and on his program when he was
still hosting it, that he knew the inner workings of
the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, and he was
part of the Secret Service, and one of his biggest
frustrations was the lack or the lag in technology and
how it was used in the department. That they just
had a way of doing things and why because this
(16:32):
is the way we've always done them. That's what Dan
Bongino said. He also said his saying for all of
it was yesterday's technology today that's what we've encountered with this,
That's what Representative Fallon was referring to. And if Sean
Kurrent truly is updating the technology using drones everything available
at their disposal now, and he's truly making those reformations
within the Secret Service, then good on him. But I
(16:55):
still would like to see Kerran sit down for an interview,
be transparent with the AMREA and people, especially one year
later here, and tell us everything they got wrong, why
they got it wrong, and why they will now get
it right going forward. He owes that Sean Kurrn does,
having been on site responsible for that mess. He owes
that to the American people a time out. James Rosen,
(17:17):
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Speaker 5 (19:23):
California Department of Education is taking federal money which is
accompanied by a promise when they applied for those grants
to follow federal law as defined as including executive orders.
And so it is really really clear, open and shut
that California is in violation of federal law while taking
(19:45):
federal money which has strings attached to it. So sorry, California,
you can have it both ways.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
She's awesome. Assistant Attorney General Harmey Dylan in a sit
down exclusive interview with our next guest, James Rosen, joining
us here on Ryan Sholing Live. You can follow him
on Exit James Rosen TV. James, welcome back, thank you
for your time. I know you're busy.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Right, I'm always a pleasure to be with you here.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Sit down with Harmey Dylan. What really stood out to
you about what she told you with regard to this
California case. But we know that it's not necessarily limited
to only California.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Right, So harmeyat Dylan is the Assistant Attorney General of
the United States for the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division.
She is the top civil rights officer in the federal government,
and she is a very well known conservative activist lawyer
who's been working on religious freedom cases and similar cases
in her own private practice as an activist for a
(20:41):
long time. And she's really kind of trying to reorient
the office of the Civil Rights Division at the Department
of Justice to reconsider and to refashion what civil rights
means and which kinds of groups should be eligible for
civil rights protection. Which was filed last Wednesday, and Newsmax
(21:03):
and This Reporter were the first to get our hands
on the court filing of US v. The California Department
of Education and the California Interscholastic Federation, which is a
very long title that sounds maybe like a group out
of Star Trek, but the California Interscholastic Federation holds stages
(21:23):
a wide array of sports competitions for young boys and
girls young athletes, and they were the ones who held
the competition in May in Clovis, California, the high school
Track and Field State Championships where a transgender student took
home the gold in the girls' high jump and triple
jump I think it was, and the Department of Justice
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citing Title nine, the nineteen seventy two law that banned
any sex based discrimination on the part of education institutions
or any activities that received federal education funding, and also
citing President Trump's executive Order of February on this subject.
Construct Basically, on last Wednesday, filed suit against those two
California agencies in US District Court in the Central District
(22:10):
of California, alleging that those two agencies have been violating
the civil rights of girls across California by allowing transgender
athletes to compete in girls' sports. They cited those track
and field championships where the transgender student took home two
gold medals, as a flagrant violation of Title nine and
(22:31):
the executive order. So what's really interesting if you looked
at the at the lawsuit, which again Newsmax was the
first to report, it appeared that DOJ felt that they
had found a smoking gun against these two California agencies.
And that was that three days before those track and
Field statewide championships in Clovis, California, where the transgender student
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took home the gold, three days before that, Interscholastic Federation,
which holds these things, announced a change to its rule.
They called it a new pilot entry program, and what
it meant that was if any quote unquote biological female
found herself doing well enough to place among the top three,
but also found herself displaced from the top three by
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a transgender student, then that biological female would also be
entitled to receive a medal. And as DOJ put it
more or less in the lawsuit, this showed. This rules
change and their use of the term biological female showed
that the Interscholastic Federation understood very well that male athletes
have a biological advantage over girl athletes, and the fact
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that they were changing the rules just before that competition
was held showed that they understood the impropriety of their actions. California,
for their part, stood attorney Assistant Attorney General Dylan and
her boss, Attorney General Pam Bondi back in June as
a kind of preemptive move alleging that the demands by
the DOJ for the State of California to come into
(24:01):
compliance with Title nine, as interpreted by the Trump administration
for themselves unconstitutional and a violation of the equal protection
rights of transgender students. So we will see this as
the subject of court action for some time to come.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Heading for a showdown. He is the chief Washington correspondent
and White House correspondent for Newsmax, as you heard him
say breaking this story and having an exclusive interview sit
down with Harmeat Dylan. Here's another portion of that conversation.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
There are still a few billions that haven't been drawn
down yet.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
So we have the money.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So transferring that money is dependent on California being in
compliance to federal law.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So you don't need to seek an injunction necessarily.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I think we hold the cards in that regard.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
We hold the cards in that regard. Now, James, you
had mentioned this kind of preemptive strike, and there are
twenty three states total I believe that have joined a
coalition in a lawsuit against the US District filed in
US District Court against the Trump administration, to which California A. G.
Rob Bonta said during a news conference, quote, Congress holds
the power of the purse, not the President Trump and
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parenthetical US Education Secretary Linda McMahon have no right to
hold these funds back. So it seems to be a
standoff here based on constitutional interpretation of the executive branch
holding the purse strings, as Harmony Dillon claims there and
the Attorney General for California's point that no, it's Congress
that appropriated these funds and the president the executive branch
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has no right to intercede. Where do you see it
going from here?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
The clip you played of Assistant Attorney General Dylan saying
we hold the cards in this regard and citing several billion,
So this all goes to the point that this is
not an academic matter, no pun intended. The state of
California receives up to forty four billion dollars a year
in federal education funds if they lose this litigation. The
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Golden State and continue to allow transgender athletes to compete
in biological girls' sports. But they just won't be able
to receive their forty four billion dollars a year, and
that's going to be a huge hit to what is
in terms of the fifty States, one of the largest
economies in the country.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I had asked.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Attorney General Dylan if she was going to seek an
injunction against California receiving any of the forty four billion
while this litigation is underway, and she noted that three
billion has yet to be drawn down. So when the
State of California tells us that it's Congress that controls
the purse strings, that's true for the appropriation process, But
then there is the disbursement process. After the funds have
(26:37):
been appropriated by the Congress and the appropriation's law has
been signed by the President, those funds have to go
out the door, and three billions she was telling us
of the forty four billion haven't yet, and she is
going to withhold those funds while this litigation is underway.
You mentioned a number of states that have joined with California.
I did ask Attorney General Assistant Attorney General Dylan if
(26:58):
she sees other lawsuits like this coming up soon, and
she said yes, and one place we might expect to see.
It is main because you might remember that extraordinary confrontation
at the White House, I believe in February when President
Trump had a number of the nation's governors to visit
early in this two point zero term, and the governor
(27:18):
of May and a woman who's a Democrat I basically
made it clear in a confrontation with him that her
state was not going to abide by the executive order
on banning transgender athletes. So there are more lawsuits coming.
And as we say, there's real money at stake here
when you're talking about forty four billion for California and
education funds.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And locally here in Colorado, they have enjoined that lawsuit
as well. Attorney General Phil Wiser. Eighty million dollars in
withheld education funding is Colorado's part in this. Chief White
House correspondent for Newsmax James Rosen joining us. James, I
got to get your take on this other topic as well.
It is big in the news today, and that is
the auto pen scandal for President Biden. Here's Representative James Comer,
(28:02):
Republican Kentucky on who was really calling the shots and
pulling the strings for Joe Biden. Behind the scenes with
this auto pen.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
There was a select few. And when I say a
select few, Jason, I'm talking about I can count them
on one hand that we're calling the shots. There's no
evidence thus far that's emerged that Joe Biden knew anything
about who was using the auto pen or the process
involved in authorizing the use of the outipin. We're going
(28:29):
to continue. We've got more names to bring in for depositions. Obviously,
we're going to get to the Ron claims and maybe
I or maybe there'll be people in the Biden's family,
immediate family that'll be implicated in this. We're going to
bring them all in and we're going to get the
truth to American people. And if Joe Biden's name was
forged on these executive orders and these pardons, then those
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executive orders and pardons are going to face a tough
future in a court of law.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
This is reporting from New York Times, this is Alex
Thompson Axios. So this is a conservative agenda by any
means or stretch of the imagination. James, But you covered
the Biden White House front and center, and you had
your ups and downs with KJP and that entire process.
But what are your thoughts on this? It would seem
to be if as allege this is what happened with
the auto pen and the pardons, etc. Ito would be
the biggest political scandal in the White House for over
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the last fifty years.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So two important developments have occurred in all of this
in recent days. One was that President Trump, through the
White House Council's Office, made it clear that he was
waiving executive privilege for anyone who might be inclined to
invoke it, any former Biden White House officials who might
want to invoke executive privilege to avoid answering questions from
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the Department of Justice or the House Oversight Committee in
their respective probes into President Biden's decline in office and
who knew what and when. The other extraordinary development was
that after that happened, a doctor Kevin O'Connor, president Biden's
personal physician, who used published letters to attest annually to
the fitness of mister Biden for office, backed out of
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an agreement he had with the House Oversight Committee for
a voluntary appearance for a transcribed interview and said, I'll
only come in if you subpoena me. So the panel
subpoena the doctor O'Connor, and when he finally appeared for
his testimony last week, he instead asserted the Fifth Amendment
privilege against in crimped self incrimination and refused to answer
questions even such as was it your estimation that mister
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Biden was fit for office? So now we saw President
Biden responding to those Former President Biden responding to those
developments by giving an interview to The New York Times,
which ran over the weekend, had been conducted last Thursday.
It was all of ten minutes long. This is something
he famously refused to do when he was in office,
was to give an interview to the New York Times.
(30:43):
And the purpose of this interview was to declare that
quote I made every decision relating to his grants of
clemency presidential clemency. Near the end of his term, he
said the only reason the auto pen was used because
there were so many signatures required more than a thousand.
But he also conceded that he didn't review every last
name amongst those fifteen hundred or so pardons. So some
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analysts regard that the president, the former president took this
extraordinary step of talking with the new York Times. We
all recall that due to his decline in office, President
Biden was shielded from the news media like no other
chief executive in modern times. He took this extraordinary step,
some analysts believe, to try to provide some cover to
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individuals who were working for him, who would enjoy less
immunity from in legal proceedings arising from official acts undertaken
during the president's term. The former president would enjoy that
kind of immunity they would not, So perhaps he felt
by stepping out and speaking out and taking responsibility for
these pardons, he might be helping out his former aids.
(31:49):
As these investigations continue.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
To unfold, nobody is his equal on Capitol Hill in
my view. You can follow him on acts at James
Rosen TV, the chief White House correspondent for Newsmaxica breaking
that story as it pertains to California and Title nine
with Assistant Attorney General Harmeat Dylan, and that exclusive sit
down interview as well. James, great work as always, Thank
you so much for your time and for joining me
here today.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You're a good man woman.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Thank you all right, James Rosen joining us here a
time out. Your response and reaction closing out with your
texts at five seven, seven, three nine after this truly
a stunning story to close out and heading into the
dan Kapla show where this will be examined in further detail.
Danielle Jorinski, of course, from the Aurora City Council, has
(32:34):
called on Ady Padden to resign from the eighteenth Judical
District DA's position. And here's another reason why. Fox thirty
one digital reporting the following by Parker Gordon entitled DA's
office planning in quotes to drop charges in alleged Aurora
kidnapping attempt. The eighteenth Judicial District Attorney's office. That's Amy
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Padden stated to Fox thirty one on Friday that they
plan to drop charges against a man for an alleged
kidnapping attempt in twenty twenty four. Solomon Gallaghan, thirty three,
was charged back in April of twenty four for one
count of attempted kidnapping after allegedly attempting to grab an
eleven year old boy during recess at black Forest Hills
Elementary School. Previously, Aurora police told Fox thirty one that
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Gallaghan is a sex offender whose registry is linked to
the Pueblo County Sheriff's office. Following the arrest, Gallaghan went
through a competency evaluation where he was later found to
be incompetent, the DA's office said to Fox thirty one
and twenty twenty four, So now continuing, the DA's office
stated they are planning to drop charges against the defendant,
which is required by law when they are found mentally
(33:40):
incompetent to stand trial. There is video of this showing
the alleged kidnapping attempt at the Aurora school. Parents have
met with the district After the incident, parents of students
at the Aurora Elementary School wrote a ten page letter
and petitioned it to the Cherry Creek School District leaders
calling for an independent investigation into the school's response when
the alleged crime took place. Cherry Creek School District held
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an investigation which led to a change in leadership and
additional security measures for the elementary school. But the long
and short of it is this, this registered sex offender,
because he was incompetent to stand trial, is going to
be released into the wild, not confined involuntarily to a
mental health facility, which at the bare minimum should be
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the case. But my understanding of this, and maybe I'm wrong,
but probably I'm not. Woh, You're insane. Go back out
into the public and the society and the wild. How
is this protecting the interest of the citizens of the
eighteen judicial district, Kelly, I.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Ask you, I am this is Cherry Creek.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yes, lovely, this is the Cherry Creek School District, black
Forest Hills Elementary School.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Lord.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Well, Danielle Drinsky's going to join Dan Kaplis Yes, coming
up in this first hour to talk more about this
and on Danielle's calls for Amy Patten to resign. Amy
Patten is a radical leftist liberal. She is the one
that was basically going easy on the fifteen year old
illegal alien that took the life of a resident in
a wanton abuse of driving privileges that he did not
(35:15):
have in this country. That'll do it for me from
here for now. Talking tomorrow on Ryan Schooling Live
If you want to really see something, that said, take
a look at what happened.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I need my microphone on. We just heard gunshots a
former President Trump's campaign event in Pennsylvania. We do not
see former President Trump's standing right now. We see a
group of people gathering around the space where he once stood.
We now see armed guards. We don't know if those
are law enforcement or his private security detail. And we
(00:48):
heard screams from the crowd. We do not know where
those gunshots came from. You are looking live in Pennsylvania.
It's an emotional scene, and we do not know what happened.
Heard gunshots that sounded upon the first few minutes a
former President Trump's speech. It looks like they're lifting him up.
Is he okay? Can anybody see anything? They're moving the
(01:13):
podium to appear to block him, so he's on his feet. However,
we do not know if he's been struck by bullets.
Now he's raising his hand. It looks like he's raising
his hand and people are cheering. Do we have audio, guys,
can we raise the audio from the crowd. We have blood.
It looks like one of my crew here says that
(01:34):
they saw blood on his ear.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But look at him. He's pumping his fist.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Guys, bring up the audio a little bit more at
this live event.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Bring the audio up, please.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
That is remarkable.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
You have just witnessed history live from this Trump event.
This is a Trump campaign event, just days from the
RNC former president, and it Trump potentially hit by gunfire.
We have to confirm. But he is still raising his
arm in what looks to be courage confidence, saying that
he's okay to that crowd. It looks like people have
turned around and are flipping off. You guys, be careful
(02:14):
with this shot. I don't know if the cameraman's flipping.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You can see.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We apologize in advance, but they turn around.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Thank you for bringing up the audio.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Keep the audio up. We're going to listen in for
a second.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well I was right, and that footage I believed from
Newsmax covering an event in real time. Channaes asked the question,
you know, of all the Trump rallies and events last year,
this was the one that CNN took live. There weren't many,
and I don't know that there were more than just
this one. But it was happenstance, coincidence. I don't know
(02:55):
you fill in the blanks on that. But I just
have to comment from a you're an alistic standpoint as
somebody who has covered live events in the past that
are unpredictable in nature, be the sporting event as a
playoff plan announcer. I mean, that's what she was doing there,
But it was under such duress and inflamed circumstances. I
(03:15):
thought she did a magnificent job of staying in the moment,
of keeping her composure, of watching what was happening. Now,
remember there's a video element to this, and she's calling
for the audio to come up and what shot, you know,
actually doing a good job of directing traffic there, because
you know, to defend the producers and those that work
behind the scenes. You know, you're not expecting this. Yeah,
(03:36):
it's kind of a typical Trump rally. Butler Pennsylvania. He's talking,
he's looking at a graph, he's what bullets And now
you've got to totally shift and pivot and you're covering
a historical event in real time. And she recognizes that
very early on. And there are only a couple of
other instances of this that you can really compare it to.
(03:57):
In most people's lifetimes in which television existed, or live
coverage of events like this existed in the aftermath. Now,
we didn't see what happened until the Zapruder film came out,
but in the aftermath of the jfk assassination, Walder Cronkit
of course was iconic in his coverage with his glasses
and taking them off and reading that President Kennedy had died,
(04:20):
and choking up on the emotion of that movement, that
gravity of that moment, and how well Walder Cronkite performed
the under those impossible circumstances. But they're seared in the
image and the minds of those that lived through it,
and even in somebody like me. I mean, I wasn't
born for another ten or so years, but that stands out.
(04:40):
And then I remember the immediate aftermath in the live coverage.
I was at my grandmother's house back in the early
eighties when the attempt on President Reagan's life by John
Hinckley Junior happened, and you watch him coming out and
everything they've done, you know, the Secret Service review of
(05:00):
that instance. I think a lot of the modifications that
were made following the attempt on Ronald Reagan's life are
a big reason why we had not seen an assassin,
an ancient attempt on another president since that time, Not
through the four years of Herbert Walker Bush, not through
the eight years of President Bill Clinton, not through the
(05:21):
eight years of George W. Bush, not through the eight
years of Barack Obama, and not through the previous four
years of Donald Trump, and not through the four years
of Joe Biden until this happened July thirteenth, a year
ago yesterday, and it raises a lot more questions than
it does provide answers. But I remember in the wake
of the Reagan assassination attempt, I was maybe seven, six
(05:44):
seven somewhere. I was a little boy, and my grandmother
was beside herself. She was despondent. She was recalling the
details of the Kennedy assassination as she remembered them, and
I was just with her in real time. As they
were covering this, I think was Ted Copple that we
were watching and that Ronald Reagan had been shot. You
could see the look on his face as he was
hustled into the limousine. They went right to the hospital.
(06:06):
From there they had apprehended Hinkley on the scene. You
saw a video of that, and then it lent itself
to parody, and I think this is important for America
at that moment. It was I think it was Joe
Piscopo who was portraying Ted Copple, and it was Eddie
Murphy as Buckwheat, and they recreated this whole thing, obviously
(06:26):
as a parody of the Reagan attempt as the assassination
of Buckwheat, and it was some levity at least in
a moment where America was on edge. And I remember
that well. And I remember well obviously a year ago
where I was Kelly Cacera, She and I and Christian
Toto and Alexa and Frandy. We were all down gathered
(06:47):
in Colorado Springs awaiting that night's comedy show to be
headlined by Jimmy Phyla of Fox News, and he had
appeared on this program to promote that event. We talked
about it, he and I and we would end up
getting together with Jimmy after the show, and we talked
about this, obviously, and it was a moment at a
restaurant I'll never forget. And I'm kind of just passively
(07:07):
scrolling through Twitter x at the time, and I'm seeing
post after post about President Trump being shot, and in
this new information age where the reliability of that kind
of information in real time is specious at best, I
kind of withheld judgment onto confirmation of that until I
saw it from some more credible sources. And they didn't
(07:29):
know what they didn't know. And you heard what was
described there in real time by the female anchor of
that news network, and they're going to believe that was Newsmax,
and the descriptions therein the blood coming from the ear,
it had appeared to have been shot. But of course
on went these other conclusions in the aftermath. I think
Christopher Ray was one of them. FBI, So, oh, maybe
it was a glass shrapnel from the teleprompter that cut
(07:52):
his ear. One, why would that matter? There was an
attempt on his life. Are you trying to downplay or
diminish it? Oh, it wasn't really a bullet. It was
just a fragment of class he was shot at. You know,
that wasn't that big of a deal. It wasn't as
big of a deal. We don't want this to make
any kind of political hay for the president. We don't
want that iconic photo of the fist rays and the
blood coming down the ear and Sean Kerran with his
(08:14):
glasses on from the his sunglasses from the Secret Service,
staring directly into the camera, and the American flag in
the background in what would be celebrated under normal circumstances
in the United States of America as one of the
iconic images of the twenty first century. But if you'll recall,
at that time, that was going to do too much
damage to Joe Biden's campaign, and it was going to
(08:37):
be too much of a help to Donald Trump's campaign
because that was going to lock it in right when
Americans see that image of a president, a former president
running for reelection and a fist race in the air
in the immediate aftermath of being shot in the ear,
and what was his reaction, No, no, I gotta get
my shoes, I got to stand up, I gotta show
that crowd. I'm okay, and I'm going to chant fight,
(08:59):
fight Fight. They struck that image from the cover of
Time magazine. They put a more broad, long shot image
of the scene at Butler, Pennsylvania instead. That was with intent.
That was with intent because it was a political calculation.
They knew if that image ran as the cover of
Time magazine Election over over, but they wanted to do
(09:19):
everything they could to contain the political gain for Donald
Trump in that moment. That's how sick and twisted these
people on the left are they thinking those very cynical
terms of they hate this man that much that he
was almost murdered on live television in front of all
of America. And yet the polling of Democrats, I don't
(09:41):
remember the exact number, but was a lot more than
zero of Democrats. I want to say it was in
the neighborhood of thirty percent, maybe more. They said, you
know what, maybe we would have been better off had
Thomas Crooks been successful in his assassination. Tim, I'm gonna
tell you this right now. Well, there was Barack Obama,
who I voted for once the biggest mistake in my
political life, did not again. But if it was him
(10:04):
during his eight years and I disagreed vehemently with a
lot of Barack Obama's policies, or whether it was Joe
Biden or had Hillary Clinton, god forbid, won the election
twenty sixteen, never would I ever had the monstrosity of
a mindset saying, you know what, maybe America would be
better off if the president of the United States was assassinated. No,
we would not be. And I don't care which party
(10:27):
the individual who was president at that time was. It
is a horrifying tragedy for America when that happens, when
it has happened in our history, be it Abraham Lincoln
or Thomas McKinley or James Garfield or John F. Kennedy,
it would never would it ever be a good thing
to be celebrated or that, you know, be a net
(10:49):
gain Orange man bad. You are demented and you have
no soul, if that's what you believe, If that's how
seriously you take your politics, if your politics are your religion,
that's where that path leads to that darkness. A year later,
we don't have a lot of answers, and if you'd
missed it, I invite you to check out my interview
(11:09):
with Susan Crabtree. She's simply the best when it comes
to covering matters of national security and her sourcing within
the Secret Service itself, including Sean Kerrn, who I believe
she knows personally, and she's been very forthright and honest
in her assessments both positive and negative of Current. She
is close with Dan Bongino as well. In course, Bongino
(11:31):
was very critical of the hire when Sean Kerran, who
was on the detail, who was heading up the detail
on that day in Butler, Pennsylvania for the Secret Service,
when he was elevated to the director position after Kim
Cheedle left member she left in disgrace. And then Ron
Rowe I think his name was, and he was very
(11:51):
unimpressive on Capitol Hill during testimony in stepped Seawan Current.
And I was skeptical too, and I still am. I mean,
we all should be. There's a healthy level of skepticism
that comes after an event like that that it shouldn't
have happened. Where were the breakdowns with the breaches in security?
Why was that metal shed not secured? Not part of
the plan? How was Thomas Crooks able to get into
(12:14):
that event armed perch himself up on top of that
building and take eight open shots at the President of
the United States, the former president of that time. These
are unanswered questions. And even Susan Crabtree told us that, Yeah,
the only thing that came out of this and I
think this is a disgrace. What did we get in
terms of punishment or consequences for the Secret Service and
(12:36):
that ultimate failure, that catastrophic failure, that but for the
grace of God that Donald Trump turned his head to
look at a chart, his head would have been blown
off on live television. That was as big of a
failure by the Secret Service as has ever happened on
their watch. And what do we get six suspensions without pay?
(12:57):
Is that what had turned out to be right? No firing,
no firings. And in fact, like I just mentioned, Sean
Kerrn was promoted here, the promotion out of that, he
should be apologizing for that. Like I can't believe they
promoted me. I'm going to do whatever it takes to
clean up this department to get on the right track.
I will never forget a day in my life. What
(13:18):
happened that day and my part in it, my role
in it, my responsibility for it, my accountability and it
happening at all was on me. Have you heard Sean
Kerrn say that, because short of that, I don't find
that to be acceptable, not one bit. Here's Representative Pat
Fhalon on that day talking about that day rather over
the weekend. Republican Texas.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Not only did the the Secret Services not share this
with other agencies, they didn't share it with President Trump's
detail that Iran was posed a dire threat to President
Trump's life, he should have been receiving at that time
because it was a very unique circumstance. He was the
former president, he was a nation state was trying to
assassinate him for hours since he took as president. He
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was also the leading candidate to be the next.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
President, which he is now. He should have had.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
A security that was commisserate with a sitting US president
because of the unique nature of who who he was,
who he is, and the threat at that time.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
A detail lost in a lot of this. Did you know,
doctor Jill Biden, the first Lady of the United States,
had a higher level priority security detail than former President
Donald Trump on that day? Are you kidding me with
that madness? That's insanity, absolute madness. She wasn't too far
(14:38):
you're right, geographically, and those resources were dedicated to her
rather than the former president of the United States. And
with this added sensitivity of Iran having him clearly targeted.
Not only there was a nexus between Thomas Crooks, this
potunk kid, and Iran I don't think he was sophisticated
enough for that. I could be wrong, but nobody's telling
(15:00):
us anything. But I remember where I was. I remember
sharing this information with Christian Toto, with Kelly Caacerra, with Alexa,
with Frandy, and just the looks on our face as
we turned ash in our jaws drop. We're watching on
my phone the video live coverage of this. Jimmy Fayla
opens his act saying, look, I know what happened today,
but what we know as of that night was President
(15:21):
Trump was going to be okay and let's have a
good night to laughs. And I thought Jimmy played that
very well because that was not an easy circumstance for
him to find himself in. Here's more from Representative Pat Falen,
Republican in Texas.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
So it needs to have been moving forward. Is the leadership,
of course, did change. Catle's gone, Row's gone. And that's
very important because it starts at the top, and you
need to embrace technology, you need to change the training.
There's cultural changes that need to be made, and they're
starting to be made by Director Current and that's a
very positive thing. But in bridging technology, if you remember
two weeks after the attempt in Butler, there was another
(15:54):
attempt in Florida, and that fella was laying in wait,
That assassin was laying weight for twelve hours. It have
never happened as you had infrared technology, drones, robodogs, and
even old fashioned, good old sniffing German shepherds, they would
have literally sniffed him out within twenty or thirty minutes,
not waiting for twelve hours.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So there's a lot yet to be done. Dan Bongino
famously said off and on his program when he was
still hosting it, that he knew the inner workings of
the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, and he was
part of the Secret Service, and one of his biggest
frustrations was the lack or the lag in technology and
how it was used in the department. That they just
had a way of doing things and why because this
(16:32):
is the way we've always done them. That's what Dan
Bongino said. He also said his saying for all of
it was yesterday's technology today that's what we've encountered with this,
That's what Representative Fallon was referring to. And if Sean
Kurrent truly is updating the technology using drones everything available
at their disposal now, and he's truly making those reformations
within the Secret Service, then good on him. But I
(16:55):
still would like to see Kerran sit down for an interview,
be transparent with the AMREA and people, especially one year
later here, and tell us everything they got wrong, why
they got it wrong, and why they will now get
it right going forward. He owes that Sean Kurrn does,
having been on site responsible for that mess. He owes
that to the American people a time out. James Rosen,
(17:17):
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Speaker 5 (19:23):
California Department of Education is taking federal money which is
accompanied by a promise when they applied for those grants
to follow federal law as defined as including executive orders.
And so it is really really clear, open and shut
that California is in violation of federal law while taking
(19:45):
federal money which has strings attached to it. So sorry, California,
you can have it both ways.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
She's awesome. Assistant Attorney General Harmey Dylan in a sit
down exclusive interview with our next guest, James Rosen, joining
us here on Ryan Sholing Live. You can follow him
on Exit James Rosen TV. James, welcome back, thank you
for your time. I know you're busy.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Right, I'm always a pleasure to be with you here.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Sit down with Harmey Dylan. What really stood out to
you about what she told you with regard to this
California case. But we know that it's not necessarily limited
to only California.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Right, So harmeyat Dylan is the Assistant Attorney General of
the United States for the Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division.
She is the top civil rights officer in the federal government,
and she is a very well known conservative activist lawyer
who's been working on religious freedom cases and similar cases
in her own private practice as an activist for a
(20:41):
long time. And she's really kind of trying to reorient
the office of the Civil Rights Division at the Department
of Justice to reconsider and to refashion what civil rights
means and which kinds of groups should be eligible for
civil rights protection. Which was filed last Wednesday, and Newsmax
(21:03):
and This Reporter were the first to get our hands
on the court filing of US v. The California Department
of Education and the California Interscholastic Federation, which is a
very long title that sounds maybe like a group out
of Star Trek, but the California Interscholastic Federation holds stages
(21:23):
a wide array of sports competitions for young boys and
girls young athletes, and they were the ones who held
the competition in May in Clovis, California, the high school
Track and Field State Championships where a transgender student took
home the gold in the girls' high jump and triple
jump I think it was, and the Department of Justice
(21:47):
citing Title nine, the nineteen seventy two law that banned
any sex based discrimination on the part of education institutions
or any activities that received federal education funding, and also
citing President Trump's executive Order of February on this subject.
Construct Basically, on last Wednesday, filed suit against those two
California agencies in US District Court in the Central District
(22:10):
of California, alleging that those two agencies have been violating
the civil rights of girls across California by allowing transgender
athletes to compete in girls' sports. They cited those track
and field championships where the transgender student took home two
gold medals, as a flagrant violation of Title nine and
(22:31):
the executive order. So what's really interesting if you looked
at the at the lawsuit, which again Newsmax was the
first to report, it appeared that DOJ felt that they
had found a smoking gun against these two California agencies.
And that was that three days before those track and
Field statewide championships in Clovis, California, where the transgender student
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took home the gold, three days before that, Interscholastic Federation,
which holds these things, announced a change to its rule.
They called it a new pilot entry program, and what
it meant that was if any quote unquote biological female
found herself doing well enough to place among the top three,
but also found herself displaced from the top three by
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a transgender student, then that biological female would also be
entitled to receive a medal. And as DOJ put it
more or less in the lawsuit, this showed. This rules
change and their use of the term biological female showed
that the Interscholastic Federation understood very well that male athletes
have a biological advantage over girl athletes, and the fact
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that they were changing the rules just before that competition
was held showed that they understood the impropriety of their actions. California,
for their part, stood attorney Assistant Attorney General Dylan and
her boss, Attorney General Pam Bondi back in June as
a kind of preemptive move alleging that the demands by
the DOJ for the State of California to come into
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compliance with Title nine, as interpreted by the Trump administration
for themselves unconstitutional and a violation of the equal protection
rights of transgender students. So we will see this as
the subject of court action for some time to come.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Heading for a showdown. He is the chief Washington correspondent
and White House correspondent for Newsmax, as you heard him
say breaking this story and having an exclusive interview sit
down with Harmeat Dylan. Here's another portion of that conversation.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
There are still a few billions that haven't been drawn
down yet.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
So we have the money.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
So transferring that money is dependent on California being in
compliance to federal law.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
So you don't need to seek an injunction necessarily.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I think we hold the cards in that regard.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
We hold the cards in that regard. Now, James, you
had mentioned this kind of preemptive strike, and there are
twenty three states total I believe that have joined a
coalition in a lawsuit against the US District filed in
US District Court against the Trump administration, to which California A. G.
Rob Bonta said during a news conference, quote, Congress holds
the power of the purse, not the President Trump and
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parenthetical US Education Secretary Linda McMahon have no right to
hold these funds back. So it seems to be a
standoff here based on constitutional interpretation of the executive branch
holding the purse strings, as Harmony Dillon claims there and
the Attorney General for California's point that no, it's Congress
that appropriated these funds and the president the executive branch
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has no right to intercede. Where do you see it
going from here?
Speaker 4 (25:37):
The clip you played of Assistant Attorney General Dylan saying
we hold the cards in this regard and citing several billion,
So this all goes to the point that this is
not an academic matter, no pun intended. The state of
California receives up to forty four billion dollars a year
in federal education funds if they lose this litigation. The
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Golden State and continue to allow transgender athletes to compete
in biological girls' sports. But they just won't be able
to receive their forty four billion dollars a year, and
that's going to be a huge hit to what is
in terms of the fifty States, one of the largest
economies in the country.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I had asked.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Attorney General Dylan if she was going to seek an
injunction against California receiving any of the forty four billion
while this litigation is underway, and she noted that three
billion has yet to be drawn down. So when the
State of California tells us that it's Congress that controls
the purse strings, that's true for the appropriation process, But
then there is the disbursement process. After the funds have
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been appropriated by the Congress and the appropriation's law has
been signed by the President, those funds have to go
out the door, and three billions she was telling us
of the forty four billion haven't yet, and she is
going to withhold those funds while this litigation is underway.
You mentioned a number of states that have joined with California.
I did ask Attorney General Assistant Attorney General Dylan if
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she sees other lawsuits like this coming up soon, and
she said yes, and one place we might expect to see.
It is main because you might remember that extraordinary confrontation
at the White House, I believe in February when President
Trump had a number of the nation's governors to visit
early in this two point zero term, and the governor
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of May and a woman who's a Democrat I basically
made it clear in a confrontation with him that her
state was not going to abide by the executive order
on banning transgender athletes. So there are more lawsuits coming.
And as we say, there's real money at stake here
when you're talking about forty four billion for California and
education funds.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And locally here in Colorado, they have enjoined that lawsuit
as well. Attorney General Phil Wiser. Eighty million dollars in
withheld education funding is Colorado's part in this. Chief White
House correspondent for Newsmax James Rosen joining us. James, I
got to get your take on this other topic as well.
It is big in the news today, and that is
the auto pen scandal for President Biden. Here's Representative James Comer,
(28:02):
Republican Kentucky on who was really calling the shots and
pulling the strings for Joe Biden. Behind the scenes with
this auto pen.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
There was a select few. And when I say a
select few, Jason, I'm talking about I can count them
on one hand that we're calling the shots. There's no
evidence thus far that's emerged that Joe Biden knew anything
about who was using the auto pen or the process
involved in authorizing the use of the outipin. We're going
(28:29):
to continue. We've got more names to bring in for depositions. Obviously,
we're going to get to the Ron claims and maybe
I or maybe there'll be people in the Biden's family,
immediate family that'll be implicated in this. We're going to
bring them all in and we're going to get the
truth to American people. And if Joe Biden's name was
forged on these executive orders and these pardons, then those
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executive orders and pardons are going to face a tough
future in a court of law.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
This is reporting from New York Times, this is Alex
Thompson Axios. So this is a conservative agenda by any
means or stretch of the imagination. James, But you covered
the Biden White House front and center, and you had
your ups and downs with KJP and that entire process.
But what are your thoughts on this? It would seem
to be if as allege this is what happened with
the auto pen and the pardons, etc. Ito would be
the biggest political scandal in the White House for over
(29:17):
the last fifty years.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So two important developments have occurred in all of this
in recent days. One was that President Trump, through the
White House Council's Office, made it clear that he was
waiving executive privilege for anyone who might be inclined to
invoke it, any former Biden White House officials who might
want to invoke executive privilege to avoid answering questions from
(29:41):
the Department of Justice or the House Oversight Committee in
their respective probes into President Biden's decline in office and
who knew what and when. The other extraordinary development was
that after that happened, a doctor Kevin O'Connor, president Biden's
personal physician, who used published letters to attest annually to
the fitness of mister Biden for office, backed out of
(30:02):
an agreement he had with the House Oversight Committee for
a voluntary appearance for a transcribed interview and said, I'll
only come in if you subpoena me. So the panel
subpoena the doctor O'Connor, and when he finally appeared for
his testimony last week, he instead asserted the Fifth Amendment
privilege against in crimped self incrimination and refused to answer
questions even such as was it your estimation that mister
(30:23):
Biden was fit for office? So now we saw President
Biden responding to those Former President Biden responding to those
developments by giving an interview to The New York Times,
which ran over the weekend, had been conducted last Thursday.
It was all of ten minutes long. This is something
he famously refused to do when he was in office,
was to give an interview to the New York Times.
(30:43):
And the purpose of this interview was to declare that
quote I made every decision relating to his grants of
clemency presidential clemency. Near the end of his term, he
said the only reason the auto pen was used because
there were so many signatures required more than a thousand.
But he also conceded that he didn't review every last
name amongst those fifteen hundred or so pardons. So some
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analysts regard that the president, the former president took this
extraordinary step of talking with the new York Times. We
all recall that due to his decline in office, President
Biden was shielded from the news media like no other
chief executive in modern times. He took this extraordinary step,
some analysts believe, to try to provide some cover to
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individuals who were working for him, who would enjoy less
immunity from in legal proceedings arising from official acts undertaken
during the president's term. The former president would enjoy that
kind of immunity they would not, So perhaps he felt
by stepping out and speaking out and taking responsibility for
these pardons, he might be helping out his former aids.
(31:49):
As these investigations continue.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
To unfold, nobody is his equal on Capitol Hill in
my view. You can follow him on acts at James
Rosen TV, the chief White House correspondent for Newsmaxica breaking
that story as it pertains to California and Title nine
with Assistant Attorney General Harmeat Dylan, and that exclusive sit
down interview as well. James, great work as always, Thank
you so much for your time and for joining me
here today.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You're a good man woman.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Thank you all right, James Rosen joining us here a
time out. Your response and reaction closing out with your
texts at five seven, seven, three nine after this truly
a stunning story to close out and heading into the
dan Kapla show where this will be examined in further detail.
Danielle Jorinski, of course, from the Aurora City Council, has
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called on Ady Padden to resign from the eighteenth Judical
District DA's position. And here's another reason why. Fox thirty
one digital reporting the following by Parker Gordon entitled DA's
office planning in quotes to drop charges in alleged Aurora
kidnapping attempt. The eighteenth Judicial District Attorney's office. That's Amy
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Padden stated to Fox thirty one on Friday that they
plan to drop charges against a man for an alleged
kidnapping attempt in twenty twenty four. Solomon Gallaghan, thirty three,
was charged back in April of twenty four for one
count of attempted kidnapping after allegedly attempting to grab an
eleven year old boy during recess at black Forest Hills
Elementary School. Previously, Aurora police told Fox thirty one that
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Gallaghan is a sex offender whose registry is linked to
the Pueblo County Sheriff's office. Following the arrest, Gallaghan went
through a competency evaluation where he was later found to
be incompetent, the DA's office said to Fox thirty one
and twenty twenty four, So now continuing, the DA's office
stated they are planning to drop charges against the defendant,
which is required by law when they are found mentally
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incompetent to stand trial. There is video of this showing
the alleged kidnapping attempt at the Aurora school. Parents have
met with the district After the incident, parents of students
at the Aurora Elementary School wrote a ten page letter
and petitioned it to the Cherry Creek School District leaders
calling for an independent investigation into the school's response when
the alleged crime took place. Cherry Creek School District held
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an investigation which led to a change in leadership and
additional security measures for the elementary school. But the long
and short of it is this, this registered sex offender,
because he was incompetent to stand trial, is going to
be released into the wild, not confined involuntarily to a
mental health facility, which at the bare minimum should be
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the case. But my understanding of this, and maybe I'm wrong,
but probably I'm not. Woh, You're insane. Go back out
into the public and the society and the wild. How
is this protecting the interest of the citizens of the
eighteen judicial district, Kelly, I.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Ask you, I am this is Cherry Creek.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yes, lovely, this is the Cherry Creek School District, black
Forest Hills Elementary School.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Lord.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Well, Danielle Drinsky's going to join Dan Kaplis Yes, coming
up in this first hour to talk more about this
and on Danielle's calls for Amy Patten to resign. Amy
Patten is a radical leftist liberal. She is the one
that was basically going easy on the fifteen year old
illegal alien that took the life of a resident in
a wanton abuse of driving privileges that he did not
(35:15):
have in this country. That'll do it for me from
here for now. Talking tomorrow on Ryan Schooling Live
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