President Trump, noticeably agitated with both Iran and Israel apparently violating the ceasefire he orchestrated and brokered, drops some terse words for either side in comments made to the media on the White House lawn, 'We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the f--- they're doing.' Were this colorful language justified?
Alicia Garcia, co-founder of The 2nd Syndicate, joins Ryan to reflect on the third anniversary of John Hurley's public service and sacrifice in taking down an active shooter before Arvada police mistakenly shot and killed him as well in Old Town Arvada. Alicia would like to make next year's celebration of Hurley's actions bigger and better than ever, starting with our current fight against Colorado's most recent law infringing upon the Second Amendment rights of our citizens (SB25-003).
No charges for Colorado officer who killed 'hero' who stopped mass shooting
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Alicia Garcia, co-founder of The 2nd Syndicate, joins Ryan to reflect on the third anniversary of John Hurley's public service and sacrifice in taking down an active shooter before Arvada police mistakenly shot and killed him as well in Old Town Arvada. Alicia would like to make next year's celebration of Hurley's actions bigger and better than ever, starting with our current fight against Colorado's most recent law infringing upon the Second Amendment rights of our citizens (SB25-003).
No charges for Colorado officer who killed 'hero' who stopped mass shooting
Semiautomatic Firearms & Rapid-Fire Devices | Colorado General Assembly
Empowering Gun Rights - The Second Syndicate
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes,
churning the forty seventh president's ethic interactions with the fake
news media.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Got the filing, we had a rocket, you do, they violated,
but Israel violated it too.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Israel as soon as we made the deal, they came
out and they dropped the load of bombs, the likes
of which I've never seen before, the biggest loads.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
That we've seen.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay,
now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in
the first hours, just drop everything you have on them.
So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with
Iron either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out
this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that
was shot perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not
(00:48):
happy about that. You know what we have, We basically
have two countries that have been fighting so long and
so hard that they don't know what they're doing. Do
you understand that?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Now you hear why we had to open the show
with that. President Trump in rare form this morning and
not in the greatest of moods, as you might understand,
as he was proudly proclaiming to the world and during
the Dankapla show yesterday actually was breaking then that a
ceasefire had been broken, and then this would happen in
(01:25):
staggered stages.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
First twelve hours, Iran.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Would adhar and then Israel would follow suit, and then
they both end up violating in real time. The so
called ceasefire agreement so very tenuous as it stands right now.
And President Trump right there calling out Israel directly, and
I think this sends a clear message that when he
says that something is so that Benjamin net Yahoo would
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conterdict that or that the Israeli forces have to be
at least with his tacit knowledge approval, meaning that net
Yahoo's endorsement and carry out the attacks anyway and drop
it within an hour of this ceasefire going into effect.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, Trump said that that was not in the spirit
of the deal.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And I don't blame him one bit for being extremely
dissatisfied with Israel's conduct there. I mean, he probably figures,
you know, we got a tough enough time with Iran,
this is an unstable Islamo fascist regime. Trying to get
them on board with some form of temporary, tenuous peace
and ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And we've got Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's supposed to be, you know, one of our greatest allies,
not only in the region, but the world. They're the
ones that are continuing this kind of serve and volley
of missiles with the Iran.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We've even got conflicting reports coming out.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I'm looking right now at the monitors in the studio
on the left, CNN saying, exclusive sources tell CNN early
US Intel assessments suggests strikes in Iran did not destroy
nuclear sites. Meanwhile, on Fox News the other side, DODC
cli that as President Trump said and his addressed to
the nation that night Saturday night, that they were obliterated.
(03:06):
So which is it or is this the truth? Somewhere
in between? Want to get your text at five seven, seven,
three nine. We're starting there on a bridge text from
Dan's show yesterday saying, Dan is Ryan mad at you?
He's uncharacteristically silent. Doesn't he like what Trump did? Well,
nothing could be further from the truth. And I articulated
(03:26):
that on this program yesterday. I always look at it
the following way. This is the Dan Kaplis pregame show.
As I proudly touted on six point thirty k HOW
locally in Denver Live before his show comes on the
air at four pm Mountain time. So we're on from
two to four, and then Dan's on from four to six. Well, Dan,
you know he's doing legal stuff a lot of the time,
a lot of the day, a lot of this time
(03:47):
of year, he's got trial at your trial, backed up,
back log, prepping for that over the weekends. No time off,
no days off, Bill Belichick said, so, and no sleep
for that matter.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean, here's Dan.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I don't know if I'm talking out of school here,
but sixty seven, sixty eight years old. You would not
know that to look at him. He's going to be
really angry that I put that number out there, But
come on, he should be proud of that fact. It's
doing great stuff and he's he's on the dime. This
is not a guy that you would typically associate with,
whatever that age means. That being said, you know, I
(04:20):
expressed my views before his program comes on the air,
and then Dan comes on, and for the two hours
that he is live, you know, I'll chime in, I'll
offer my thoughts, I'll ask him a question, but it's
his show, and I've had my show. I've had my turn,
my time, and that's kind of how I view that
to the texture's point there, So I appreciate you checking
in on me.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I mean, was there something wrong with me? Did I
have a stroke? Did I stroke out? No?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
But there's a lot going on behind the scenes for
Dan's program. Just to bring you inside a little bit,
Kelly's walking around here somewhere. I don't know if she
wanted her little walk because there's a chante just for mean.
This won't mean a lot to the podcast listeners that
are not listening in real time.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Shann But you said there's a tornado watch or warning.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I believe there was a warning warning because there could
have been some cloud formation spotted Elbert County northern Rapa Hoe. Okay,
so keep that in mind if you're tooling around out
there driving whatnot. There's a lot of bad weather in
the area, including right here where we make our we
set up shop in the Denver Tech Center, So be
(05:22):
careful out there driving around. But yeah, Kelly, behind the scenes,
she takes the calls, she puts them on the monitor.
We set things up for Dan. We're trying to book
a range secure interviews to handle those phone calls, as
well the music, behind the scenes, the audio clips, et cetera.
There's a lot that goes into the preparation for a show,
and what I tried to do is lay the groundwork
(05:43):
now so by the time I go to air live
with all of you, I've done hopefully north of ninety
percent of the prep that I need to do for
both my show and dance. Now there might be a time,
luckily I have Shannon today where there's a commercial time out,
I run back out to my desk, I edited a
little bit more audio. I'm in that boat again today,
so you know, always trying to keep you in the loop,
(06:05):
always trying to keep you updated and informed of the
best of my ability. And I'm relying on a lot
of you out there too. Maybe you don't realize this
is a two way straight. I recognize that we live
in a new age society with technology, and things are
coming down the pike hot and heavy, especially right now.
I mean this news is like drinking out of a
fire hose and AOC you know, calling for the impeachment
(06:26):
of Donald Trump. He had some words the president, again
active on his social media today taking shots figurative verbal
ones at her at ilhan Omar at Jasmine Crockett, ripping
on their intelligence or lack thereof.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
This is there.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It is so what I originally wanted to do here,
and I'm going to do it to the best of
my ability. But you know, my Donald Trump impersonation, while
it'll do in a pinch, it's not Sean Ferrish.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And he's come on this program a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He had the audience over at KOA completely fooled, completely snowed,
and I didn't want to make fools of that audience.
It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger told Joy Behar about him being
an immigrant guests the home, and you want to make
your bed, and you want to be clean, and you
want to you know. And so when I'm over there
on KOA, and I'll be filling in for Ross coincidentally tomorrow,
(07:20):
so you can look forward to that, I always do
it like.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's his show. I'm just the caretaker for the moment.
I'm babysitting the kids. I'm substitute teaching the class.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But it's his class, it's his house, his kids, his audience,
his family, and I don't want to come in there,
rule the roost and act like I own the place.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Not not gonna be that guy.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So I go in there and you know, I just
try to, you know, keep the fort, hold the fort down.
But I did have Sean Ferrish come in, and I
didn't prep the audience ahead of the segment because I
think they would have taken the fun out of it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So I'm doing a balancing act.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Here of the fun of it and the kind of
tongue in chink wigand of is this President Trump? And
Sean comes on the program and he does a spot
on dead ringer President Trump impersonation, the likes of which
I've never heard before. I mean, he's from Long Island,
like Donald Trump. So he has that inflection, that accent,
(08:13):
that affect already in the tank, and then he goes
into President Trump mode and Denny says things that are
a little outlandish, but you just heard the President himself.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
They don't know what the blank they're doing, and.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
What's fact, what's fiction, what's truth, what's false. It's really
difficult to discern at times. So I go through the
whole segment with Sean. We have a great time, and
I played a straight man I'm like the dan Ackroyd
and the old SNL sketches, you know, just playing a newsman,
just ask him the questions, treating him Sean as if
he is Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'm not laughing, you know. That's the problem that Kelly has.
She's cracking up.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know, Sean's just busting her up in the background,
and a lot of times you'll hear that, and they
can add to the fun I think, but I have
to do my level best to kill my mic and
stifle my laughter and just treat it like, Hey, if
this were the president, I wouldn't be laughing at him.
So that's how I would handle that give and take.
By the end of the sketch, the following things had happened.
Kathy Walker now retired. We wish her well. She goes
(09:14):
back in for a cameo here and there. But was
the news director at KOA comes rushing into the KOA
control room to talk to Dragon, wondering did did Ryan
land President Trump?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He is he that close on the inner circles? I
think a lot of times, and I mean this with affection.
The people that work here, they view me like as
a zoo animal, and what I mean by that is
a lot of them. They're they're not like us, Okay,
they're not conservative, right of center like Kelly, like Channon,
like me, like many of you. And they don't know
how what makes us tick or how we operate, how
(09:48):
we run our ballgame.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You know, what do we think, what circles do we
run in, what people do we know?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And so from a distance they might go, well, Ryan,
he's that kookie conservative guy, and he might have ties
into the Trump administration. Who knows, maybe Donald Trump did
go on with him, Well he didn't. I would gladly
welcome the President on this program. But the best I
could do in that moment was comic relief and parody
in the form of Sean Ferrish. So Cathy comes in
wanting the audio, wanted to know what's going on my
(10:16):
phone's her phone was blowing up, and there were people,
there were executives in Arizona that were following this. Apparently
in real time, some echoes got back to them about
you know this bit that was going on.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Was it a bit? Was it ed interview? Was it real?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
At Kaoe and Denver and they were tuned into it.
Jojo Turnbo, he comes running over to. I mean, there's
a lot of things going on. I ended up talking
to Dave Tepper, our program director here, about it, and
he's all about it, but he was grateful so at
the end of that sketch. And I've done it on
this program too, when I've done a segment with Sean,
I let the cat out of the bag, I let
the air out of the balloon a little bit, and
(10:52):
I let the audience in on the joke. I could
not do that, and that would be like, you know,
classic gag radio. But I think there's a fine line
between kind of insulting your audience, you know, insulting the
intelligence of the audience and giving them that wink and
nod and like, Okay, we're gonna let you in on
the joke a little bit. I compare it a lot too.
So I'm a big fan of magic and magicians like
(11:16):
I am with comedians, and sometimes those are one and
the same, and in this case it really was. I
went and saw Penn and Teller at the Rio in Vegas,
and these are great magicians and they're really funny guys.
And this is you know, North about twenty years ago.
And what they did was they go through their whole routine,
and they show you the tricks and then this might
be breaking code a little bit when it comes to magicians,
(11:38):
a lot of them are real funny about this.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
They showed you how they did.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
The trick afterward, and then after the show's done, you
go out in the hallway and there's Penn and Teller
standing there shaking your hand, talking to you and taking photographs,
signing autographs. And the thing that really blew my mind
and kind of flew me for a loop for a moment,
Teller was talking.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
This is the silent one. He's kind of the Harpo Marx.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And during the course of their act, or if you
watched the BS series that I think was on Showtime originally,
but it's a great show.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
It's a great series.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
They break down conspiracy theories and you know, kind of
outrageous claims and are they true and are they not?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And are they bs?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And they go ahead and poke holes and theories. It's
pretty interesting stuff. But Teller would almost always demonstrate without
uttering a word, and that's that's their whole act, and
Pen does all of the talking, but after the fact,
Teller's like, yeah, you know, I don't talk a lot,
but you don't.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Talk at all.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So I don't know if I like that or not,
but I did feel kind of cool that, you know,
we were let on the inside. We the attendees at
the Rio that watched their act could kind of see
how they did it. So, you know, Sean is the
tremendously talented guy. He's a guy that had an audition.
We talked about this in one of our interview segments.
He had an audition with Lorne Michaels for Saturday Night Live.
(12:51):
And you know, they could do the makeup, the hair,
the clothing, the wardrobe, all that and make him President
Trump and he'd be the best one there. Ever, was
far better than Alec Ball, better than the guy they
have now. See the fact that I say the guy
they have now, I don't know the guy. I'm not
a big fan of the show anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I used to be. I think Darryl Hammond at one
time did a pretty good Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But Sean, if you just listen, it's very difficult to discern,
especially over the phonus.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Is that really the president?
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Here?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And there? Okay, that's not it? Or is it? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So long and short of it was I think Dave
was pleased that I let people off the hook. But anyway,
all that to come full circle. I'm doing the weave.
I'm doing the weave, and we're coming right back Israel, Iran.
They don't know what the blank they're doing. Okay, so
he puts out this banger, does Donald Trump on true
social stupid aoc Alexandria Ocassio Cortez, one of the dumbest
(13:46):
people in Congress, is now calling for my impeachment despite
the fact that the crooked and corrupt Democrats have already
done that twice before. The reason for her rantings is
all of the victories that the USA has had under
the Trump administration, he continues, The Democrats aren't used to winning,
and she can't stand the concept of her country being successful.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Again, then he goes here, when we examine her.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Test scores, we'll find out that she's not qualified for
her office, but nevertheless far more qualified than Crockett, who
is seriously a low IQ individual, or elan Omar, who
does nothing but complain about our country. Yet the failed
country that she comes from doesn't have a government, is
drenched in crime and poverty, and is rated as one
(14:36):
of the worst in the world, if it's even rated
at all.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Where this came from? I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Dare the mouse tell us how to run the United
States of America? So I guess ilhan Omar is now
the mouse? Are you making heads or tails of that? Shannon,
I'm not sure about that nickname. He's not sure. Sometimes
he's in the know. He works earlier than I do,
so he sees things before I see them. Here's things
before I hear them. He's not done yet. By the way,
(15:04):
we're just now coming back from the radical left experiment
with sleepy Joe Kamala and the auto pen.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
You know what it is in charge? What a disaster
it was.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
AOC should be forced to take the cognitive tests that
I just completed at Walter Reed Medical Center as part
of my physical as the doctor in charge, said President
Trump astat, meaning I got every answer right, Doug cat
Man woman camera.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
They were making fun of that for weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I remember that instead of her constant complaining, the President continuing,
he's not done. This is all one true social post.
By the way, instead of her constant complaining, Alexandria should
go back home to Queens, where I also was brought
up and straightened out her filthy, disgusting, crime ridden streets
in the district she scare quotes represents in which she
(15:59):
never goes anymore. She better start worrying about her own
primary before she thinks about beating our great I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Really some with this for the first.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Time, before she thinks about beating our great Palestinian senator
crying Chuck Schumer. You know he is whose career is
definitely on very thin ice. She and her Democrat friends
have just hit the lowest poll numbers in congressional history.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So go ahead and try impeaching me again. Make my day.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Quoting the great Clint Eastwood there, I mean, that's an
all timer.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
You get the nickname for ilhan.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Omar as the mouse. I'm not gonna explain it. I
shouldn't have to. She's the mouse. That's just the way
it is. She married a brother, That's what mice do.
This guy's great who says this? Greg Gottfelder thinks says,
we don't deserve him. We don't deserve him. I mean,
he's just the most entertaining, hilarious, and by the way
(16:57):
effective president that we've had, perhaps.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
In my life lifetime.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know, I always attribute the gold standard from my
lifetime growing up as being Ronald Reagan, and in many
ways he was and his But for President Trump, the
effectiveness of his policies, the speed with which they work,
his foreign policy, which is pieced through strength much like Reagan,
but targeted, and its approach. He's not going to get
(17:20):
us entangled and broiled and long lasting, endless wars. This
is kind of the balancing act that he's doing with
the United States playing a leadership role in the world,
but not being the world's policeman and going in to
clean up everybody else's messages. Although I think in this
case President Trump may be feeling that way. Not only
is he let down disappointed, I think by the fact
(17:42):
that Benjamin Netyaho Israel kind of violated the ceasefire in
the time that he was announcing it, but that he
went out on a limb for Israel, for NETANYAHUU and said,
you know, this was not an easy decision for President
Trump to make. This required a lot of political capital
for him to spend, for him to invest, for him
to use and say, no, what it is worth it
(18:05):
in the interests of our national security as a country,
the US to go into Iran with these targeted strikes,
send our pilots into harm's way. They were not harmed,
but that was because of meticulous planning and an air
tight seal avoiding any leaks whatsoever. Meaning they didn't tell
any Democrats on Capitol Hill because they would have been
(18:26):
right out the back door talking to Manu Raju. That's
what Catherine heride of CBS said, and she's not wrong.
So this is a well executed mission. Has it accomplished
its objectives? There are conflicting reports, as I said, between
what CNN is getting from their sources, whoever they are,
by the way, to the Department of Defense on Fox News.
I'm looking between the two screens right now, same thing.
Bombing campaign obliterated Iran nukes. I think there's still a
(18:50):
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Speaker 6 (20:24):
It was what looked to be a normal Monday until
a shooting in Old Town, Arvada led to the killing
of beloved Arvada Police officer Gordon Beasley and forty year
old Johnny Hurley. And as a Friday, we now have
a more detailed look at what happened that day, a
timeline laid out by police. At twelve forty nine, the
shooter's brother called police to warn them, saying Ronald was
going to quote do something crazy. Officer Beasley and another
(20:47):
officer responded to Troyke's apartment at one oh eight, but
couldn't find him. Nine minutes later, police got a call
about a suspicious person in the Old Town Square and
that's what brings us here. One thirty one. Police say,
that's Trokey pulling into this parking lot. Officer Beasley shows
up and walks through an alley towards the square. That's
him at the top of the screen, but you can
see the shooter grabs what police say is a shotgun
(21:07):
and runs towards Officer Beasley, even passing people who just
happen to be walking by. The shooter gets to Officer Beasley,
and will pause the video here. Police say Trocky shot
Beasley twice. The shooter then goes back to his truck
and grabs what police say was in AR fifteen. It
does not show what happened next, but police say Hurley
shot the gunman. When officers got Onseen, they say they
(21:28):
found Hurley holding the suspect's gun. Police now confirm an
officer shot Hurley. Still police again calling Hurley a hero
Friday for stopping the shooter and saving lives.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
A very dark day and a bittersweet day, as it
would turn out, John Hurley a hero mistakenly identified as
the shooter.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Everything happening, it's a blur. I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Arevent a police in that moment June twenty one, twenty
twenty one, that from nine News, which you just heard,
and commemorating the fourth an y of that over this
past weekend. Our next guest, Alicia Garcia, you can find
her at the second syndicate as well, will give you
those details. But this conversation struck up in a series
of texts between Alicia and myself and she joins us
(22:12):
on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Alicia, thanks for taking the time, Hi, Ryan, how are
you I'm doing all.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Right, and I just look back on this incident and
I think about what the tribute to John Hurley could
have been if all had worked out and he would
have lived. Now we would have lost the police officer.
That was a tremendous tragedy in that moment, but losing
John on top of that made it even worse. Can
you reflect upon the events of that day as you
see them, and why the two a and the fight
(22:41):
for it is so important when it comes to John
in this.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Case, Absolutely so. I remember this pretty vividly and hearing
about it and wondering, you know, what happened in the
course of those events that led to the demise of
such a hero, because you know, when I saw the
videos and I looked at what had happened, I knew
right away, you know, just being somebody who's involved in
(23:06):
firearms and trained avidly that this man trained, He knew
exactly how to use cover and concealment. He knew it.
You know, he flung into action when other people would
have ran. He took it upon himself to be a
hero and get things done. You know, I heard from
different sources that I won't say that, you know, there's
(23:26):
an actual video out there that I've seen that says
Copps said, Hey, you know, we didn't even feel that
we had the proper equipment to act in the moment,
and yet a civilian with his handgun that he had concealed,
flung into action and he took down a man with
a shotgun and a rifle. So the man went to
his he used the shotgun to commit an act of violence,
(23:48):
came back to the vehicle, grabbed the ar and then
John Hurley was up against a area where dumpster was
popped out of concealment of cover, excuse me, and was
able to neutralize that threat. And you know, we haven't
seen any video footage of what there we're being told
is happening. And that really bothers me, because here's somebody
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who trains to understand cover and concealment and a proper
cadence of making sure that he's landing every single one
of his shots with intention and purpose, which through the
video you can absolutely see he did that. It kind
of baffles me that someone also knowing those things wouldn't
also know not to, you know, reach down, or have
a firearm displayed, or do certain things when you know,
(24:35):
emergency services are being called, so I'm very curious to
see as too, if that actually is what happened. But nevertheless,
you know, we're so often to recommend the names to
everyone of victims lost and violence, but we have a
hero here that also his name deserves to be reverended
(24:57):
and to be spoken about because John herm is the
type of person we want armed, and there's plenty of
people like him in society in Colorado that are that
type of person, and yet we still have lawmakers using
the excuses of mass shootings and active shooters to disarm
people when it's you know, the writing's on the wall here.
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There's plenty of John Hurleys in the world, and what
are we doing to not only celebrate them, but to
empower them.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Alisa Garcia our guests.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
We always appreciate her time and her insight on matters
like this. You can find her website and the hub
for that is the Second Syndicate dot com, the Two
n D Syndicate dot com, and she does a podcast
biweekly along these lines as well. We'll get into the
recently passed gun law, which is one of the most
(25:47):
egregious overreaches and infringing upon our Second Amendment rights really
in national history, Elisia, but just a couple of questions
that I've always had, and you said, you've seen the video,
and I'm not going to leave this to specia relation,
but to your informed opinion on what happened that day
and why you mentioned that the Arvada Police said that
they did not have the tactical equipment or capabilities to
(26:10):
counter the shooter the gunman in real time, and yet
they were able to take down John Hurley.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
So I'm looking to square that circle.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And if there's anything in retrospect, I know hindsight's twenty twenty,
but that John himself, if you were to advise somebody
in his position, a civilian who is armed, that is
trying to do the right thing, if there's anything he
could have done differently to avoid the outcome that awaited him.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
You know, the only thing that I think about, and
I mean this is this is the ugliness of the situation.
Is the reason you train with firearms is avidly, as
I do, and as I recommend my students to do so.
I'm also firearms educator or any of my firearms company
is cancelled carry Closs of Denver. If anybody's interested in
taking cantil carry Closs, just google that you'll find us is.
(26:58):
I always tell them you have to think and prepare
about the before, the during, and the after of a
defensive shoot. And the reason you train the way you
do is because you are taking that conscious effort of
how you handle a firearm to how you would handle
a firearm subconsciously with repetition, with practice and with you know,
information and educating yourself on the best practices. And I
(27:19):
always teach my students that gun is always the plan
v rights. If you can de escalate, if you can
do anything you can before having to go for the gun,
do it. Because the most important thing that we all
should think about every day of our life is be
home right, getting home safely and insound and love yourself
(27:41):
to stay alive. But that's what happened that day, right,
there's an active shooter, something to happen. And I mean,
I can't tell people how to live their life. I
know what I would do. I would absolutely be a
John Hurley. I would absolutely be a protector in society
because life is precious and that is why we train
it for situations like that. The only suggestion I have
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to people is, you know, be able to counteract that narrative.
Have a cell phone able to you know, once you
have use a gun in self defense or use that is,
pick up the phone and say, hey, this is who
I am, this is what I look like. I had
to use my firearm in defense of life. Someone was
trying to kill somebody. You know, this is what I
look like, this is who I am. Because in the situation, say,
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you know you do have to use your firearm and
self defense, and you know, a car drives by or
someone only gets a glimpse and all they see is
you shooting someone. They don't know who the bad guy is, right,
they don't know what you were doing. And if there's
two people with the gun, how do you know which
which was the good guy and which was the bad guy.
So the only way to do that is counteract that
narrative is quickly done. You know, call nine one one,
(28:44):
tell them who you are, Tell them that you were
acting in defense of yourself because you're cantill carrying, and
hit up the phone out for emergency services and have
an attorney and invoke your fitth Amendment right and have
your attorney talk to the cops because you never know
what the narrative is going to be, you know, hindsight's
twenty twenty, and you know, I want to I want
to pass judgment, you know, I want to say, Okay,
(29:05):
you show up to the scene and someone's and this
is because of speculation. We don't know what happened that day.
But if a man is standing over another man who
has a handgun and someone has a rifle, I would
assume it would be you know, it would prove you
as a person of you know, authority to say, hey,
drop your weapon, pave them, do something to bring them down,
(29:26):
because that person has information that we need to know
and we need to know what they were doing. Are
you Are you potentially allowing yourself to be considered a suspect. Yes?
Do you deserve a day in court? Yes, you absolutely do.
You deserve to speak up, you deserve to defend yourself,
and you also just deserve to be armed. And I
just think about it, like, why are we celebrating, you know,
(29:49):
the lost and also not celebrating the heroes as well?
Because when I was speaking to John Hurley's mom this
weekend at an event that they have for him in
Old Town, Ravada. One of the things that she said
is that you know, we always always respect and honor
Officer Beasley as well because he died that day. But
you know, people don't don't want to focus on that,
(30:11):
They don't want to see that that it is about
celebrating everybody that died that day and celebrating the lives
that are saved because someone did what they did and
took action and protected countless lives. I mean, the cop
that literally shot John Hurley is alive because of John Hurley.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, that's the irony of it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
There were no chargers filed by first District Judicial District
Attorney Alexis King in this case against the officer who
did shoot and kill John Hurley, who I'm sure feels
terrible about it and wish that he could turn back
time and undo it, but you can't. And John Hurley
a hero, as was the officer killed by the mad
gudman in this case. And just to put a fine
(30:50):
point on it, Alicia, you were at this event you
describe over the weekend, you want it to be bigger
and better than ever next year, to honor not only John,
but also to celebrate the fact that on was exercising
his Second Amendment right to carry, and he saved lives
in the process of exercising that right. Why is that
so important to spotlight for next year?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well, not only is it on a Sunday, that's the
time that everybody can be there together. I think right now,
when we look at the political climate here in Colorado,
the gun is a demon and it is being pushed
upon and for fed to our communities that the gun
is a demon and it isn't. The mind is the weapon.
A gun is a tool. However that person is behind
(31:34):
that trigger is what defines what is going to happen,
if it is going to be a tool of oppression
or is it's going to be a tool of protection.
And you have to make that decision. And we need
John Hurley's in the world. We need people like him.
Not only was he convicted in his political beliefs, but
he lived his life based on practicing those things. You know,
(31:54):
he was involved politically as everybody should, because if you're
not involved in politics, honey, politics is in you, and
these people are making decisions that affect your livelihood, that
affect your civil rights, your children's rights, the future of
the children, and nobody seems to be outraged. And that's
how these things get passed, is you know, they you
(32:16):
walk down to the Capitol, you testify and open hearing
saying why it's so important for us to keep these guns,
and the opposition they say, you know, oh, look what
happened here at this mass shooting here? What about people
like John Hurley? What about his story? What about the
lives that are alive today? Because he had his firearm
and he was trained, and he had access to that gun,
(32:39):
he didn't care. I mean, the guy literally wasn't even
a big fan of law enforcement. But do you think
he cared that day? No, he cared about life, and
he cared about making sure that everybody has a chance
to fight and stay alive. And that is exactly the
type of information and the type of people and the
type of action we should be celebrating and remembering when
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these politicians attacking our civil rights.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Follow her on x at Boomstick Babe, She's on all
the socials there and also the second syndicate dot com
that's thch E two n D syndicate dot com. Alicia
Garcia getting us caught up on this case. As we
look back four years ago on the Hero that was
John Hurley. Alicia, thank you so much for your time.
As always, we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Thank you, Ryan, I appreciate you always.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
All right, we'll take this time out. Come back.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We have another edition of Trump's Hot Takes to close
out our number one of Ryan schuling live on this Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
After this.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
Now we're hearing incredibly optimistic views coming out of the
White House as far as how long this can hold
and what this is going to look like that obviously
still remains to be seen on the implementation side of this,
and waiting to see if the firing does stop and
if Iran and Israel do both agree to this, because
you know, speaking of the fluidity of the situation, it
was just twenty four hours ago that President Trump himself
(33:56):
was suggesting a regime change and Iran was a possibility
obviously right before that having the United States strike Iran
and so yes, there have been a lot of phone
calls going back and forth. In part this has to
do with Iran's limited response earlier where they fired on
a US bas in Qatar, but there were no casualties.
We know that they did give a heads up that
they were going to be firing on US Bass without
(34:18):
exactly specified specifying which ones. But that is the question
here as if the United States felt that it did
not need to respond to the Iranian retaliation, did that
create the space for this? That is what we've been
hearing from administration officials, and so the question is whether
or not this still folds for the next few hours.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Oh, Caitlin, I just been given a word that Iran,
according to a diplomat who brief CNN, Iran has agreed.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
To the cease fire.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
So this is a significant I just want to try
to learn some more information instid as we get it
about that. But if that is the case, that's incredibly
significant because that is we were waiting, We had not
heard from Iran, we had not heard from Israel. We
were going on so far has been the president's social
media post, which was some two hours ago. So again,
that is the first indication we have that Iran has
(35:09):
agreed to this.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So awkward in real time, as Kaitlyn Collins went on
the entire preamble, Anderson Cooper breaking the news that, Oh,
in fact, Iran had agreed to the ceasefire happening now
Al Green not that Al Green, Not the one you
heard coming into the segment. The congressman, the wacko with
the cane from Texas impeachment vote on the floor. Even
Nancy Pelosi is skeptical. More straight ahead an hour two
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes,
churning the forty seventh president's ethic interactions with the fake
news media.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Got the filing, we had a rocket, you do, they violated,
but Israel violated it too.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Israel as soon as we made the deal, they came
out and they dropped the load of bombs, the likes
of which I've never seen before, the biggest loads.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
That we've seen.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay,
now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in
the first hours, just drop everything you have on them.
So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with
Iron either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out
this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that
was shot perhaps by mistake, that didn't land, I'm not
(00:48):
happy about that. You know what we have, We basically
have two countries that have been fighting so long and
so hard that they don't know what they're doing. Do
you understand that?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Now you hear why we had to open the show
with that. President Trump in rare form this morning and
not in the greatest of moods, as you might understand,
as he was proudly proclaiming to the world and during
the Dankapla show yesterday actually was breaking then that a
ceasefire had been broken, and then this would happen in
(01:25):
staggered stages.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
First twelve hours, Iran.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Would adhar and then Israel would follow suit, and then
they both end up violating in real time. The so
called ceasefire agreement so very tenuous as it stands right now.
And President Trump right there calling out Israel directly, and
I think this sends a clear message that when he
says that something is so that Benjamin net Yahoo would
(01:51):
conterdict that or that the Israeli forces have to be
at least with his tacit knowledge approval, meaning that net
Yahoo's endorsement and carry out the attacks anyway and drop
it within an hour of this ceasefire going into effect.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, Trump said that that was not in the spirit
of the deal.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And I don't blame him one bit for being extremely
dissatisfied with Israel's conduct there. I mean, he probably figures,
you know, we got a tough enough time with Iran,
this is an unstable Islamo fascist regime. Trying to get
them on board with some form of temporary, tenuous peace
and ceasefire.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And we've got Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's supposed to be, you know, one of our greatest allies,
not only in the region, but the world. They're the
ones that are continuing this kind of serve and volley
of missiles with the Iran.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
We've even got conflicting reports coming out.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I'm looking right now at the monitors in the studio
on the left, CNN saying, exclusive sources tell CNN early
US Intel assessments suggests strikes in Iran did not destroy
nuclear sites. Meanwhile, on Fox News the other side, DODC
cli that as President Trump said and his addressed to
the nation that night Saturday night, that they were obliterated.
(03:06):
So which is it or is this the truth? Somewhere
in between? Want to get your text at five seven, seven,
three nine. We're starting there on a bridge text from
Dan's show yesterday saying, Dan is Ryan mad at you?
He's uncharacteristically silent. Doesn't he like what Trump did? Well,
nothing could be further from the truth. And I articulated
(03:26):
that on this program yesterday. I always look at it
the following way. This is the Dan Kaplis pregame show.
As I proudly touted on six point thirty k HOW
locally in Denver Live before his show comes on the
air at four pm Mountain time. So we're on from
two to four, and then Dan's on from four to six. Well, Dan,
you know he's doing legal stuff a lot of the time,
a lot of the day, a lot of this time
(03:47):
of year, he's got trial at your trial, backed up,
back log, prepping for that over the weekends. No time off,
no days off, Bill Belichick said, so, and no sleep
for that matter.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean, here's Dan.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I don't know if I'm talking out of school here,
but sixty seven, sixty eight years old. You would not
know that to look at him. He's going to be
really angry that I put that number out there, But
come on, he should be proud of that fact. It's
doing great stuff and he's he's on the dime. This
is not a guy that you would typically associate with,
whatever that age means. That being said, you know, I
(04:20):
expressed my views before his program comes on the air,
and then Dan comes on, and for the two hours
that he is live, you know, I'll chime in, I'll
offer my thoughts, I'll ask him a question, but it's
his show, and I've had my show. I've had my turn,
my time, and that's kind of how I view that
to the texture's point there, So I appreciate you checking
in on me.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I mean, was there something wrong with me? Did I
have a stroke? Did I stroke out? No?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
But there's a lot going on behind the scenes for
Dan's program. Just to bring you inside a little bit,
Kelly's walking around here somewhere. I don't know if she
wanted her little walk because there's a chante just for mean.
This won't mean a lot to the podcast listeners that
are not listening in real time.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Shann But you said there's a tornado watch or warning.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I believe there was a warning warning because there could
have been some cloud formation spotted Elbert County northern Rapa Hoe. Okay,
so keep that in mind if you're tooling around out
there driving whatnot. There's a lot of bad weather in
the area, including right here where we make our we
set up shop in the Denver Tech Center, So be
(05:22):
careful out there driving around. But yeah, Kelly, behind the scenes,
she takes the calls, she puts them on the monitor.
We set things up for Dan. We're trying to book
a range secure interviews to handle those phone calls, as
well the music, behind the scenes, the audio clips, et cetera.
There's a lot that goes into the preparation for a show,
and what I tried to do is lay the groundwork
(05:43):
now so by the time I go to air live
with all of you, I've done hopefully north of ninety
percent of the prep that I need to do for
both my show and dance. Now there might be a time,
luckily I have Shannon today where there's a commercial time out,
I run back out to my desk, I edited a
little bit more audio. I'm in that boat again today,
so you know, always trying to keep you in the loop,
(06:05):
always trying to keep you updated and informed of the
best of my ability. And I'm relying on a lot
of you out there too. Maybe you don't realize this
is a two way straight. I recognize that we live
in a new age society with technology, and things are
coming down the pike hot and heavy, especially right now.
I mean this news is like drinking out of a
fire hose and AOC you know, calling for the impeachment
(06:26):
of Donald Trump. He had some words the president, again
active on his social media today taking shots figurative verbal
ones at her at ilhan Omar at Jasmine Crockett, ripping
on their intelligence or lack thereof.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
This is there.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It is so what I originally wanted to do here,
and I'm going to do it to the best of
my ability. But you know, my Donald Trump impersonation, while
it'll do in a pinch, it's not Sean Ferrish.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And he's come on this program a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
He had the audience over at KOA completely fooled, completely snowed,
and I didn't want to make fools of that audience.
It's like Arnold Schwarzenegger told Joy Behar about him being
an immigrant guests the home, and you want to make
your bed, and you want to be clean, and you
want to you know. And so when I'm over there
on KOA, and I'll be filling in for Ross coincidentally tomorrow,
(07:20):
so you can look forward to that, I always do
it like.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's his show. I'm just the caretaker for the moment.
I'm babysitting the kids. I'm substitute teaching the class.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But it's his class, it's his house, his kids, his audience,
his family, and I don't want to come in there,
rule the roost and act like I own the place.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Not not gonna be that guy.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So I go in there and you know, I just
try to, you know, keep the fort, hold the fort down.
But I did have Sean Ferrish come in, and I
didn't prep the audience ahead of the segment because I
think they would have taken the fun out of it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
So I'm doing a balancing act.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Here of the fun of it and the kind of
tongue in chink wigand of is this President Trump? And
Sean comes on the program and he does a spot
on dead ringer President Trump impersonation, the likes of which
I've never heard before. I mean, he's from Long Island,
like Donald Trump. So he has that inflection, that accent,
(08:13):
that affect already in the tank, and then he goes
into President Trump mode and Denny says things that are
a little outlandish, but you just heard the President himself.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
They don't know what the blank they're doing, and.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
What's fact, what's fiction, what's truth, what's false. It's really
difficult to discern at times. So I go through the
whole segment with Sean. We have a great time, and
I played a straight man I'm like the dan Ackroyd
and the old SNL sketches, you know, just playing a newsman,
just ask him the questions, treating him Sean as if
he is Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I'm not laughing, you know. That's the problem that Kelly has.
She's cracking up.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know, Sean's just busting her up in the background,
and a lot of times you'll hear that, and they
can add to the fun I think, but I have
to do my level best to kill my mic and
stifle my laughter and just treat it like, Hey, if
this were the president, I wouldn't be laughing at him.
So that's how I would handle that give and take.
By the end of the sketch, the following things had happened.
Kathy Walker now retired. We wish her well. She goes
(09:14):
back in for a cameo here and there. But was
the news director at KOA comes rushing into the KOA
control room to talk to Dragon, wondering did did Ryan
land President Trump?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
He is he that close on the inner circles? I
think a lot of times, and I mean this with affection.
The people that work here, they view me like as
a zoo animal, and what I mean by that is
a lot of them. They're they're not like us, Okay,
they're not conservative, right of center like Kelly, like Channon,
like me, like many of you. And they don't know
how what makes us tick or how we operate, how
(09:48):
we run our ballgame.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
You know, what do we think, what circles do we
run in, what people do we know?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And so from a distance they might go, well, Ryan,
he's that kookie conservative guy, and he might have ties
into the Trump administration. Who knows, maybe Donald Trump did
go on with him, Well he didn't. I would gladly
welcome the President on this program. But the best I
could do in that moment was comic relief and parody
in the form of Sean Ferrish. So Cathy comes in
wanting the audio, wanted to know what's going on my
(10:16):
phone's her phone was blowing up, and there were people,
there were executives in Arizona that were following this. Apparently
in real time, some echoes got back to them about
you know this bit that was going on.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Was it a bit? Was it ed interview? Was it real?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
At Kaoe and Denver and they were tuned into it.
Jojo Turnbo, he comes running over to. I mean, there's
a lot of things going on. I ended up talking
to Dave Tepper, our program director here, about it, and
he's all about it, but he was grateful so at
the end of that sketch. And I've done it on
this program too, when I've done a segment with Sean,
I let the cat out of the bag, I let
the air out of the balloon a little bit, and
(10:52):
I let the audience in on the joke. I could
not do that, and that would be like, you know,
classic gag radio. But I think there's a fine line
between kind of insulting your audience, you know, insulting the
intelligence of the audience and giving them that wink and
nod and like, Okay, we're gonna let you in on
the joke a little bit. I compare it a lot too.
So I'm a big fan of magic and magicians like
(11:16):
I am with comedians, and sometimes those are one and
the same, and in this case it really was. I
went and saw Penn and Teller at the Rio in Vegas,
and these are great magicians and they're really funny guys.
And this is you know, North about twenty years ago.
And what they did was they go through their whole routine,
and they show you the tricks and then this might
be breaking code a little bit when it comes to magicians,
(11:38):
a lot of them are real funny about this.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
They showed you how they did.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
The trick afterward, and then after the show's done, you
go out in the hallway and there's Penn and Teller
standing there shaking your hand, talking to you and taking photographs,
signing autographs. And the thing that really blew my mind
and kind of flew me for a loop for a moment,
Teller was talking.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
This is the silent one. He's kind of the Harpo Marx.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And during the course of their act, or if you
watched the BS series that I think was on Showtime originally,
but it's a great show.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
It's a great series.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
They break down conspiracy theories and you know, kind of
outrageous claims and are they true and are they not?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
And are they bs?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And they go ahead and poke holes and theories. It's
pretty interesting stuff. But Teller would almost always demonstrate without
uttering a word, and that's that's their whole act, and
Pen does all of the talking, but after the fact,
Teller's like, yeah, you know, I don't talk a lot,
but you don't.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Talk at all.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So I don't know if I like that or not,
but I did feel kind of cool that, you know,
we were let on the inside. We the attendees at
the Rio that watched their act could kind of see
how they did it. So, you know, Sean is the
tremendously talented guy. He's a guy that had an audition.
We talked about this in one of our interview segments.
He had an audition with Lorne Michaels for Saturday Night Live.
(12:51):
And you know, they could do the makeup, the hair,
the clothing, the wardrobe, all that and make him President
Trump and he'd be the best one there. Ever, was
far better than Alec Ball, better than the guy they
have now. See the fact that I say the guy
they have now, I don't know the guy. I'm not
a big fan of the show anymore.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
I used to be. I think Darryl Hammond at one
time did a pretty good Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But Sean, if you just listen, it's very difficult to discern,
especially over the phonus.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Is that really the president?
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Here?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And there? Okay, that's not it? Or is it? I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So long and short of it was I think Dave
was pleased that I let people off the hook. But anyway,
all that to come full circle. I'm doing the weave.
I'm doing the weave, and we're coming right back Israel, Iran.
They don't know what the blank they're doing. Okay, so
he puts out this banger, does Donald Trump on true
social stupid aoc Alexandria Ocassio Cortez, one of the dumbest
(13:46):
people in Congress, is now calling for my impeachment despite
the fact that the crooked and corrupt Democrats have already
done that twice before. The reason for her rantings is
all of the victories that the USA has had under
the Trump administration, he continues, The Democrats aren't used to winning,
and she can't stand the concept of her country being successful.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Again, then he goes here, when we examine her.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Test scores, we'll find out that she's not qualified for
her office, but nevertheless far more qualified than Crockett, who
is seriously a low IQ individual, or elan Omar, who
does nothing but complain about our country. Yet the failed
country that she comes from doesn't have a government, is
drenched in crime and poverty, and is rated as one
(14:36):
of the worst in the world, if it's even rated
at all.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Where this came from? I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Dare the mouse tell us how to run the United
States of America? So I guess ilhan Omar is now
the mouse? Are you making heads or tails of that? Shannon,
I'm not sure about that nickname. He's not sure. Sometimes
he's in the know. He works earlier than I do,
so he sees things before I see them. Here's things
before I hear them. He's not done yet. By the way,
(15:04):
we're just now coming back from the radical left experiment
with sleepy Joe Kamala and the auto pen.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
You know what it is in charge? What a disaster
it was.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
AOC should be forced to take the cognitive tests that
I just completed at Walter Reed Medical Center as part
of my physical as the doctor in charge, said President
Trump astat, meaning I got every answer right, Doug cat
Man woman camera.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
They were making fun of that for weeks.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I remember that instead of her constant complaining, the President continuing,
he's not done. This is all one true social post.
By the way, instead of her constant complaining, Alexandria should
go back home to Queens, where I also was brought
up and straightened out her filthy, disgusting, crime ridden streets
in the district she scare quotes represents in which she
(15:59):
never goes anymore. She better start worrying about her own
primary before she thinks about beating our great I'll.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Really some with this for the first.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Time, before she thinks about beating our great Palestinian senator
crying Chuck Schumer. You know he is whose career is
definitely on very thin ice. She and her Democrat friends
have just hit the lowest poll numbers in congressional history.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So go ahead and try impeaching me again. Make my day.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Quoting the great Clint Eastwood there, I mean, that's an
all timer.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
You get the nickname for ilhan.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Omar as the mouse. I'm not gonna explain it. I
shouldn't have to. She's the mouse. That's just the way
it is. She married a brother, That's what mice do.
This guy's great who says this? Greg Gottfelder thinks says,
we don't deserve him. We don't deserve him. I mean,
he's just the most entertaining, hilarious, and by the way
(16:57):
effective president that we've had, perhaps.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
In my life lifetime.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know, I always attribute the gold standard from my
lifetime growing up as being Ronald Reagan, and in many
ways he was and his But for President Trump, the
effectiveness of his policies, the speed with which they work,
his foreign policy, which is pieced through strength much like Reagan,
but targeted, and its approach. He's not going to get
(17:20):
us entangled and broiled and long lasting, endless wars. This
is kind of the balancing act that he's doing with
the United States playing a leadership role in the world,
but not being the world's policeman and going in to
clean up everybody else's messages. Although I think in this
case President Trump may be feeling that way. Not only
is he let down disappointed, I think by the fact
(17:42):
that Benjamin Netyaho Israel kind of violated the ceasefire in
the time that he was announcing it, but that he
went out on a limb for Israel, for NETANYAHUU and said,
you know, this was not an easy decision for President
Trump to make. This required a lot of political capital
for him to spend, for him to invest, for him
to use and say, no, what it is worth it
(18:05):
in the interests of our national security as a country,
the US to go into Iran with these targeted strikes,
send our pilots into harm's way. They were not harmed,
but that was because of meticulous planning and an air
tight seal avoiding any leaks whatsoever. Meaning they didn't tell
any Democrats on Capitol Hill because they would have been
(18:26):
right out the back door talking to Manu Raju. That's
what Catherine heride of CBS said, and she's not wrong.
So this is a well executed mission. Has it accomplished
its objectives? There are conflicting reports, as I said, between
what CNN is getting from their sources, whoever they are,
by the way, to the Department of Defense on Fox News.
I'm looking between the two screens right now, same thing.
Bombing campaign obliterated Iran nukes. I think there's still a
(18:50):
lot that we don't know, and we don't know what
we don't know at this point. Coming back segment number two,
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Speaker 6 (20:24):
It was what looked to be a normal Monday until
a shooting in Old Town, Arvada led to the killing
of beloved Arvada Police officer Gordon Beasley and forty year
old Johnny Hurley. And as a Friday, we now have
a more detailed look at what happened that day, a
timeline laid out by police. At twelve forty nine, the
shooter's brother called police to warn them, saying Ronald was
going to quote do something crazy. Officer Beasley and another
(20:47):
officer responded to Troyke's apartment at one oh eight, but
couldn't find him. Nine minutes later, police got a call
about a suspicious person in the Old Town Square and
that's what brings us here. One thirty one. Police say,
that's Trokey pulling into this parking lot. Officer Beasley shows
up and walks through an alley towards the square. That's
him at the top of the screen, but you can
see the shooter grabs what police say is a shotgun
(21:07):
and runs towards Officer Beasley, even passing people who just
happen to be walking by. The shooter gets to Officer Beasley,
and will pause the video here. Police say Trocky shot
Beasley twice. The shooter then goes back to his truck
and grabs what police say was in AR fifteen. It
does not show what happened next, but police say Hurley
shot the gunman. When officers got Onseen, they say they
(21:28):
found Hurley holding the suspect's gun. Police now confirm an
officer shot Hurley. Still police again calling Hurley a hero
Friday for stopping the shooter and saving lives.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
A very dark day and a bittersweet day, as it
would turn out, John Hurley a hero mistakenly identified as
the shooter.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Everything happening, it's a blur. I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Arevent a police in that moment June twenty one, twenty
twenty one, that from nine News, which you just heard,
and commemorating the fourth an y of that over this
past weekend. Our next guest, Alicia Garcia, you can find
her at the second syndicate as well, will give you
those details. But this conversation struck up in a series
of texts between Alicia and myself and she joins us
(22:12):
on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Alicia, thanks for taking the time, Hi, Ryan, how are
you I'm doing all.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Right, and I just look back on this incident and
I think about what the tribute to John Hurley could
have been if all had worked out and he would
have lived. Now we would have lost the police officer.
That was a tremendous tragedy in that moment, but losing
John on top of that made it even worse. Can
you reflect upon the events of that day as you
see them, and why the two a and the fight
(22:41):
for it is so important when it comes to John
in this.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Case, Absolutely so. I remember this pretty vividly and hearing
about it and wondering, you know, what happened in the
course of those events that led to the demise of
such a hero, because you know, when I saw the
videos and I looked at what had happened, I knew
right away, you know, just being somebody who's involved in
(23:06):
firearms and trained avidly that this man trained, He knew
exactly how to use cover and concealment. He knew it.
You know, he flung into action when other people would
have ran. He took it upon himself to be a
hero and get things done. You know, I heard from
different sources that I won't say that, you know, there's
(23:26):
an actual video out there that I've seen that says
Copps said, Hey, you know, we didn't even feel that
we had the proper equipment to act in the moment,
and yet a civilian with his handgun that he had concealed,
flung into action and he took down a man with
a shotgun and a rifle. So the man went to
his he used the shotgun to commit an act of violence,
(23:48):
came back to the vehicle, grabbed the ar and then
John Hurley was up against a area where dumpster was
popped out of concealment of cover, excuse me, and was
able to neutralize that threat. And you know, we haven't
seen any video footage of what there we're being told
is happening. And that really bothers me, because here's somebody
(24:12):
who trains to understand cover and concealment and a proper
cadence of making sure that he's landing every single one
of his shots with intention and purpose, which through the
video you can absolutely see he did that. It kind
of baffles me that someone also knowing those things wouldn't
also know not to, you know, reach down, or have
a firearm displayed, or do certain things when you know,
(24:35):
emergency services are being called, so I'm very curious to
see as too, if that actually is what happened. But nevertheless,
you know, we're so often to recommend the names to
everyone of victims lost and violence, but we have a
hero here that also his name deserves to be reverended
(24:57):
and to be spoken about because John herm is the
type of person we want armed, and there's plenty of
people like him in society in Colorado that are that
type of person, and yet we still have lawmakers using
the excuses of mass shootings and active shooters to disarm
people when it's you know, the writing's on the wall here.
(25:18):
There's plenty of John Hurleys in the world, and what
are we doing to not only celebrate them, but to
empower them.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Alisa Garcia our guests.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
We always appreciate her time and her insight on matters
like this. You can find her website and the hub
for that is the Second Syndicate dot com, the Two
n D Syndicate dot com, and she does a podcast
biweekly along these lines as well. We'll get into the
recently passed gun law, which is one of the most
(25:47):
egregious overreaches and infringing upon our Second Amendment rights really
in national history, Elisia, but just a couple of questions
that I've always had, and you said, you've seen the video,
and I'm not going to leave this to specia relation,
but to your informed opinion on what happened that day
and why you mentioned that the Arvada Police said that
they did not have the tactical equipment or capabilities to
(26:10):
counter the shooter the gunman in real time, and yet
they were able to take down John Hurley.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
So I'm looking to square that circle.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
And if there's anything in retrospect, I know hindsight's twenty twenty,
but that John himself, if you were to advise somebody
in his position, a civilian who is armed, that is
trying to do the right thing, if there's anything he
could have done differently to avoid the outcome that awaited him.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
You know, the only thing that I think about, and
I mean this is this is the ugliness of the situation.
Is the reason you train with firearms is avidly, as
I do, and as I recommend my students to do so.
I'm also firearms educator or any of my firearms company
is cancelled carry Closs of Denver. If anybody's interested in
taking cantil carry Closs, just google that you'll find us is.
(26:58):
I always tell them you have to think and prepare
about the before, the during, and the after of a
defensive shoot. And the reason you train the way you
do is because you are taking that conscious effort of
how you handle a firearm to how you would handle
a firearm subconsciously with repetition, with practice and with you know,
information and educating yourself on the best practices. And I
(27:19):
always teach my students that gun is always the plan
v rights. If you can de escalate, if you can
do anything you can before having to go for the gun,
do it. Because the most important thing that we all
should think about every day of our life is be
home right, getting home safely and insound and love yourself
(27:41):
to stay alive. But that's what happened that day, right,
there's an active shooter, something to happen. And I mean,
I can't tell people how to live their life. I
know what I would do. I would absolutely be a
John Hurley. I would absolutely be a protector in society
because life is precious and that is why we train
it for situations like that. The only suggestion I have
(28:01):
to people is, you know, be able to counteract that narrative.
Have a cell phone able to you know, once you
have use a gun in self defense or use that is,
pick up the phone and say, hey, this is who
I am, this is what I look like. I had
to use my firearm in defense of life. Someone was
trying to kill somebody. You know, this is what I
look like, this is who I am. Because in the situation, say,
(28:23):
you know you do have to use your firearm and
self defense, and you know, a car drives by or
someone only gets a glimpse and all they see is
you shooting someone. They don't know who the bad guy is, right,
they don't know what you were doing. And if there's
two people with the gun, how do you know which
which was the good guy and which was the bad guy.
So the only way to do that is counteract that
narrative is quickly done. You know, call nine one one,
(28:44):
tell them who you are, Tell them that you were
acting in defense of yourself because you're cantill carrying, and
hit up the phone out for emergency services and have
an attorney and invoke your fitth Amendment right and have
your attorney talk to the cops because you never know
what the narrative is going to be, you know, hindsight's
twenty twenty, and you know, I want to I want
to pass judgment, you know, I want to say, Okay,
(29:05):
you show up to the scene and someone's and this
is because of speculation. We don't know what happened that day.
But if a man is standing over another man who
has a handgun and someone has a rifle, I would
assume it would be you know, it would prove you
as a person of you know, authority to say, hey,
drop your weapon, pave them, do something to bring them down,
(29:26):
because that person has information that we need to know
and we need to know what they were doing. Are
you Are you potentially allowing yourself to be considered a suspect. Yes?
Do you deserve a day in court? Yes, you absolutely do.
You deserve to speak up, you deserve to defend yourself,
and you also just deserve to be armed. And I
just think about it, like, why are we celebrating, you know,
(29:49):
the lost and also not celebrating the heroes as well?
Because when I was speaking to John Hurley's mom this
weekend at an event that they have for him in
Old Town, Ravada. One of the things that she said
is that you know, we always always respect and honor
Officer Beasley as well because he died that day. But
you know, people don't don't want to focus on that,
(30:11):
They don't want to see that that it is about
celebrating everybody that died that day and celebrating the lives
that are saved because someone did what they did and
took action and protected countless lives. I mean, the cop
that literally shot John Hurley is alive because of John Hurley.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah, that's the irony of it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
There were no chargers filed by first District Judicial District
Attorney Alexis King in this case against the officer who
did shoot and kill John Hurley, who I'm sure feels
terrible about it and wish that he could turn back
time and undo it, but you can't. And John Hurley
a hero, as was the officer killed by the mad
gudman in this case. And just to put a fine
(30:50):
point on it, Alicia, you were at this event you
describe over the weekend, you want it to be bigger
and better than ever next year, to honor not only John,
but also to celebrate the fact that on was exercising
his Second Amendment right to carry, and he saved lives
in the process of exercising that right. Why is that
so important to spotlight for next year?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well, not only is it on a Sunday, that's the
time that everybody can be there together. I think right now,
when we look at the political climate here in Colorado,
the gun is a demon and it is being pushed
upon and for fed to our communities that the gun
is a demon and it isn't. The mind is the weapon.
A gun is a tool. However that person is behind
(31:34):
that trigger is what defines what is going to happen,
if it is going to be a tool of oppression
or is it's going to be a tool of protection.
And you have to make that decision. And we need
John Hurley's in the world. We need people like him.
Not only was he convicted in his political beliefs, but
he lived his life based on practicing those things. You know,
(31:54):
he was involved politically as everybody should, because if you're
not involved in politics, honey, politics is in you, and
these people are making decisions that affect your livelihood, that
affect your civil rights, your children's rights, the future of
the children, and nobody seems to be outraged. And that's
how these things get passed, is you know, they you
(32:16):
walk down to the Capitol, you testify and open hearing
saying why it's so important for us to keep these guns,
and the opposition they say, you know, oh, look what
happened here at this mass shooting here? What about people
like John Hurley? What about his story? What about the
lives that are alive today? Because he had his firearm
and he was trained, and he had access to that gun,
(32:39):
he didn't care. I mean, the guy literally wasn't even
a big fan of law enforcement. But do you think
he cared that day? No, he cared about life, and
he cared about making sure that everybody has a chance
to fight and stay alive. And that is exactly the
type of information and the type of people and the
type of action we should be celebrating and remembering when
(32:59):
these politicians attacking our civil rights.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Follow her on x at Boomstick Babe, She's on all
the socials there and also the second syndicate dot com
that's thch E two n D syndicate dot com. Alicia
Garcia getting us caught up on this case. As we
look back four years ago on the Hero that was
John Hurley. Alicia, thank you so much for your time.
As always, we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Thank you, Ryan, I appreciate you always.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
All right, we'll take this time out. Come back.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
We have another edition of Trump's Hot Takes to close
out our number one of Ryan schuling live on this Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
After this.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
Now we're hearing incredibly optimistic views coming out of the
White House as far as how long this can hold
and what this is going to look like that obviously
still remains to be seen on the implementation side of this,
and waiting to see if the firing does stop and
if Iran and Israel do both agree to this, because
you know, speaking of the fluidity of the situation, it
was just twenty four hours ago that President Trump himself
(33:56):
was suggesting a regime change and Iran was a possibility
obviously right before that having the United States strike Iran
and so yes, there have been a lot of phone
calls going back and forth. In part this has to
do with Iran's limited response earlier where they fired on
a US bas in Qatar, but there were no casualties.
We know that they did give a heads up that
they were going to be firing on US Bass without
(34:18):
exactly specified specifying which ones. But that is the question
here as if the United States felt that it did
not need to respond to the Iranian retaliation, did that
create the space for this? That is what we've been
hearing from administration officials, and so the question is whether
or not this still folds for the next few hours.
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Oh, Caitlin, I just been given a word that Iran,
according to a diplomat who brief CNN, Iran has agreed.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
To the cease fire.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
So this is a significant I just want to try
to learn some more information instid as we get it
about that. But if that is the case, that's incredibly
significant because that is we were waiting, We had not
heard from Iran, we had not heard from Israel. We
were going on so far has been the president's social
media post, which was some two hours ago. So again,
that is the first indication we have that Iran has
(35:09):
agreed to this.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
So awkward in real time, as Kaitlyn Collins went on
the entire preamble, Anderson Cooper breaking the news that, Oh,
in fact, Iran had agreed to the ceasefire happening now
Al Green not that Al Green, Not the one you
heard coming into the segment. The congressman, the wacko with
the cane from Texas impeachment vote on the floor. Even
Nancy Pelosi is skeptical. More straight ahead an hour two
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