Saturday Morning Open Phones HR2 4-25-26

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six toed WTVN. This is Saturday Morning Open FODES. I'm
Zachary Swartz. Good morning Columbus, Hello Ohio. This shows about
you and what you want to talk about. The number
to call it is always six one four eight two
one nine eight eight six six foot four eight two
one WTVN Paul Mark with they Dick will get to

(00:20):
you momentarily. I wanted to kind of talk about real
quick the Mondami Act that Trip Roy from Texas, a
representative introduced. UH. He introduced sweeping legislation that would expand
grounds for denying entry two and removing non citizens based

(00:42):
on their political and ideological affiliations. I get it in
subway shape or form on the other part, or on
the other hand, excuse me the specifics that he's mentioning
individuals who should be admissible to the United States. UH.

(01:02):
They could be affiliated with the rage of political movements,
including Chinese communism, Marxism, Islamic fundamentalism. And it's called the
Mandamiac because the implication is that Zoe Arn Mundami is
all of those things. Now, if you want to go
after or bash Democrats or people who are the Democratic Party,

(01:27):
there's enough Ammo out there that you could do it
without exaggerating things. Now, things like Marxism and communism. Again,
I don't know why included Chinese communism, but these words
mean things, and they all mean different things. But if
you look at the last president, Joe Biden, he said thing,
you know, there are thousands of billionaires right now and

(01:49):
their average tax rate is eight percent. That was false.
He said that the classified documents that were in his possession,
none of it was high classified. That's a false statement.
He said he got arrested protesting in favor of desegregation.
That was false. He said China's in a situation where
they have more retired than working. That was false. He

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said inflation was nine percent when he came to office.
That was false. You go back to Obama, who I
mentioned I think last week or the week before, who
I think should have got impeached and faced serious consequences
because he told one of the most egregious lies in
the history of American politics when he went to Flint, Michigan,

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and he told the people of Flint that the water
they were drinking was completely fine and they didn't have
to worry about it. That that was demonstrably false and
he knew it was false, and I still don't know
why he did it. It was one hundred percent not true.
So if you want to go after democrats politically, of

(02:56):
course there's enough there to do it. You don't have
to embelly, you don't have to exaggerate or use hyperbole
to go after democrat. Now, Mundami is a self proclaimed
democratic socialist, and I'm not defending him, but I think
that it's important to make the distinction between what a

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communist is and what a democratic socialist is. Mundami's not
a communist. A democratic socialist is vastly different. A communist
at this stage of a capitalist society is really a Marxist,
And what a Marxist is is someone who is actively
not violently, but sometimes what is actively trying to overthrow
a capitalist society. A communist is someone who does not

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believe that society can work as is. They do not
believe that effective change can come about within the framework
of a capitalist society. They want to overthrow a capitalist
society and then a socialist state can be established. Mundami

(04:02):
is more of a Nordic state type of democratic socialist,
and they they basically think that you can effectively change
things for good within the framework of a capitalist society.
Think of big social benefits, big welfare debt, the rich
quote unquote pay their fair share, but it's still democratized,

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and it's still things like workers' rights. You have things
like the word socialism that people it's it's it's a
non starter that you can't even have a conversation with.
And I'm not defending it in any way, shape or form,
but the term socialists combined with democratic makes people think

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that Mundami or anybody who claims that they're democratic socialists,
that they're automatically communist, and that's not true. Socialism, like
I said, is a is a non starter in this country.
There's been two groups since the nineteen hundreds, really, the
the United States and the Soviet Union who have propagandized

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that word for two very different reasons. The Soviet Union
used the word socialism and described everything they did as
socialists to appeal to the moral masses in Europe, even
though even under Stalin for trade and things of that nature,
which they were anything but a socialist country in terms

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of the strain of socialism that they were purported to
support workers owning the means of production and having control
over your own decity. The people in the Soviet Union
under gulags were slaves, the people who had normal jobs
were more than just or nothing more than indentured service.
And America was in a Cold war with the Soviet Union,

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so they called everything that the Soviet Union did socialists,
which neither of them were correct. They were both propagandizing
the word. So the point is through all this, and
I'm not a socialist, but I think it's important for
people to understand that words mean things that you can't

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just say communism, socialism, Marxism, uh, fascism, they're not all
they're not interchangeable. These things all have different meanings. Socialism
is an economic form, it's an economic theory. Communism is
a governmental theory, well lack thereof. After you get an
overthrowed capitalist state into a socialist state, which therefore becomes

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a communist state with no active government, and everybody lives
in harmony, et cetera, et cetera, which can never be
possible just because of the way humans act. And it's
just it's just not a feasible thing. It's it's imaginary utopianism.
So I just wanted to mention all those things, because
again there's enough get I don't want to say amo,

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but enough things that if you want to bash the
Democrats or politically go after the Democrats, it's there. You
don't need to uh hyperbole, you don't need to use hyperbole,
you don't need to embellish things. You don't need to
use terms that don't describe somebody just to go after

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them politically. The Democrats and the people who are liberal
people do enough damage to themselves. There's no reason to
embellish a lot of these things. So it's again words
mean things. As somebody who once did radio, who did
it a lot better than I did. Rush Limbaugh said, Okay,

(07:46):
Paul Mark, Wendy Dick, we will get to you as
soon as we get back from the break on six'
N wtv in sixth AN, wtv this is open. Fodes,
wendy you have been on for a good. WHILE i
appreciate you holding. On what do you have to talk?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
About so it's a very interesting time and there's a
lot of things. Happening the millennial and the GEN z
people are returning to remember that they have a, Savior
Lord Jesus. Christ many people are joining churches and there's

(08:28):
everybody has their. Mission everybody has their individual. MISSION a
body Of christ has a, head, feet, hands and nobody's
mission is the. Same there's many things that people can.
Do they have gifts and talents THAT i don't, have

(08:50):
and we can find those very easily because the scriptures
give you written. Instructions james one to five tells you
if you like, wisdom you can Ask God james six.
Five james one five six tells you you don't mess.
Around isaiah fifty eight has a formula that is conretuitive

(09:12):
to what the world has right. Now it says that
you speak the words of The, lord but you don't
speak your own. Words you don't do the strife and.
Debate you cut through it and you. Serve and if
you do things but there's a lot of. Words if in,
there then when you, call The lord will answer and

(09:34):
you will get personal. Revelation so this is important right
now because there's lots of places that entertain you but
don't help you fulfill your. Mission and everybody has a.
Mission there's an opportunity at FamilySearch dot org to talk
about the two hundred fiftieth universary Of Our nation In

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New york allegedly they will not celebrate the two hundred
and fiftieth year of our. Nation that gives the opportunity for.
Us it's individuals to choose to do, so to. Serve
there's a mash pantry that is serving those people that

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might need help now because they're not receiving. PAYCHECKS a
lot of them are military people that no longer have,
paychecks and some of them are. Not but nonetheless there's
opportunities to. Serve there's gardens to be, planted plan a little,

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bit notre more for your. Neighbor in The, bible in
The Old, testament it tells you how things you're going to.
Be so you might want to secure your, property but
look out for your. Neighbor try and do the right
Things matthew twenty. Five individual because by small, means great

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things come to. Pass and line uponline precept, on precept,
here a, little, there a, little you can do some
things and by small, means great things come to. Pass
and that means You god Bless, america and may we
celebrate this great. Nation by the way that We're, nazi
THE z is SOCIALIST. Ussr one of the SA's is.

(11:23):
Socialists now we got the republic At. China, well we
are a. Republic we are not a democracy, representative but
they say they are. Republic so you have to understand
terms and what they. Mean but you also have to
understand deception And james, one five and six and geneological

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proof system can be. Used genological PROOF, gps not the car.
Thing but you have a question and you research it
with the original sources if you find them and come
to an, answer especially in this political. Season god Bless,
America god bless you.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
All, wendy thank, you have a great weekend and a great.
Week we'll talk to you Next. Saturday thanks for calling.
In all, Right, paul you've been on for a good.
While how are you this?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Morning, Hey good, morning, Exact good, morning, Sir good. Morning
there's no military solution In. Iran there's nothing we can.
Do they, need LIKE i said, before they need to
get this over with because if we if Like Donald trump,
says you, know eliminate their whole, civilization put them in

(12:28):
The Stone age or whatever else he. Said if they do,
that they're gonna Wreck Saudi, Arabia, Kuwait, Irain, qatar all of.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Them and.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
You got to realize THAT gcc countries right now have
over two trillion dollars invested in The United. States they've
already agreed to invest another two trillion. Dollars, saudi all
those all their stuff will be gone if we Wreck.
Iran iran told us up front if we, attack they're
going after all the military. Bases all of our thirteen

(13:04):
military bases have been blown To heck'm, Back. Okay they
said they were going to close the straight Or horn,
moves which they. Did now they say they're gonna attack
The gulf countries if we attack. Them that's what they're gonna.
Do and these desert places Like Saudi arabian quake quake

(13:24):
gets over ninety percent of their water from desalination. Plants
they don't have. Water they're in a. Desert, YEAH i
mean they won't be, able like after three, days if
they don't, move they. Die there's no, water.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
RIGHT i think it's just the point of. HOPEFULLY i,
mean we. Did the iotol is gone and his ilk are.
Gone but the people who are in charge, now are
they better or? WORSE i have no. IDEA i don't
know much about. Them but eventually the time will come
where we have to just cut and leave because if

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we don't, again LIKE i said earlier the, program we're
going to be there for twenty years to say the.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Least, well that's, well that's like people like somebody said,
EARLIER i think And i've heard it on the. News you,
know they're talking about wanting to take these islands like Carg. Island,
right Carg island's twenty six miles they're within two artillery
distance From. Iran, wow first of, all how would you
get a boat of marines up? There and if you
if you put them in with an osprey or by the,

(14:25):
air they're twenty six miles away From iran. Shores what
do you think is going to happen to those boys and?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Girls?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Boys what do you think is going to happen to? Them,
yeah they're all going to be wiped, out all dead.
WHATEVER i don't, Know, no, no, no you're you're all.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
In and what you're saying is what you're, saying is it?
Incorrect it's it's why that island Is why would you take?
It what are you going to do when you take?
It how long are we going to hold? It you
know WHAT i? Mean? Like is? It is it going
to be there? Forever? Again it's one of those things
where if this keeps going on and on and on and,
on before you know, it we'll be talking about the same,

(15:04):
thing but in worse terms than a year from.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Now, Yeah and it's JUST i don't, know it's just
crazy people THAT i. Hear it's like the same people
that think we can Defend taiwan Against. China, yeah that's
we worry about Thirty, yeah we worry about thirty thousand
dollars drones From. Iran china can make hypersonic. WEAPONS i
can show you the whole thing for one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Apiece, Yeah china is, like what are we Gonna, Yeah
china is a different. Beast, Yeah china is a different.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Animal so it's all. Crazy, YEAH i, hear hang in.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
There AND i appreciate your, calling your. Thoughts you on good?
Day all? Right is this is This dick From.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Dayton, Morning.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Dak how are, You? Dick how's it?

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Going i'll, Overslept i'm, sorry how dare?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
You the show wasn't going to start until you, called.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
BUT i KNOW i miss you. Guys so oh, Hey
i've been kind of excited about Those cleveland, Carefully, zach.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
You know still the, playoffs they're looking.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Good and the and the and the The. GUARDIANS i
think they're both teams are doing pretty good this.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Year you, know, yeah fair enough the let's. SEE i
Think cleveland they're up two to one on The, rafters
it seems, yeah so, yeah they they'll probably have another
game THE nba. Playoffs they have a lot of games
in succession because there's so many of. THEM i don't
know when they play, next but they're they're, Good they're.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Decent so did you watch any did you watch any
of THE i didn't get to see, It but did
you watch any of The browns Or Bengals?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
DRAFT i didn't see any of the. DRAFT i was
in bed probably by the time it. Started a lot
of people watched it and we're talking about, it BUT
i didn't see any of. It SO i Know Ohio
state got a bunch of first round draft picks and,
whatnot which is.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Amazing you, know they keep going over and over In,
cleveland and you know the station people that talk up.
There BUT i wish they would get get settled at one, Quarterback.
Zach you know what it?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Means, YEAH i hear. You, Yeah i'm not you AND
i are not gms of a, team so maybe they
know things yet we, don't you.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Know, yeah but uh, Yeah i'm just so glad to
talk to you guys every. Week you're great. People you're great, People.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Dick you're always welcome, here and we try to GET
i try to get you on first. Thing but SOMETIMES
i start talking and running my mouth.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
And, yeah yeah it things.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Happened BUT i know you're always here to talk to, You.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Dick, Okay, well have a good, day all, right.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You have a good one. TOO i appreciate.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
It, okay, bye, Bye Thanks.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Dick all, Right Mark, lawman we'll get back to you
one moment or get to. You excuse, me right after
the break on six AN wtv in six AN wtv,
IN i Have Zachary. Schwartz this is open. FODES i
have gotten a few messages On. Facebook message you're claiming
THAT i was tried to defend socialism or. Communism ALL

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i was doing is explaining what they. Were and if
you want to go after the democrats politically and liberals,
politically there's enough firepower there to do. It you don't
have to embellish. Things you go after them for the
things that they. Say for the lies they tell for
the things that they advocate. For there's no reason to
make things up and paint them as worse than what they.

(18:26):
Are And i'm not saying people are, bad but the
ideas could be, bad and there's enough there that there's
no reason to embellish things and make it seem like
they're the worst people on the. PLANET i have a
lot of people in my family who Are, democrats and
they're good. People and you can't paint everybody with one broad. Brush,
Okay mark the poet lied to how are you? Today?

Speaker 5 (18:50):
ZACH i liked your explanation of the different political. SYSTEMS
i thought it was very. Erudite, WELL i appreciate.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
It thank.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
You, okay would you like one two minutes of poetry
or three and a half?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Minutes give me whatever you want to whatever you want to,
say it's up to. You we got time, today.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Okay, well two, Poems. Okay the first poem is a
more serious. Poem it is one minute and fifty five seconds.
Long it's RATED, pg and it's called high Gas prices
are a small price to pay for. Years death To
america is the chant that we have heard when someone

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threatens me with. DEATH i take them at their. Word
so now once, more our nation is pursuing a. SOLUTION
i ask, myself what is my? Role what is my?
Contribution my days in uniform are. DONE i don't risk
life or. Limb my son is a, civilian SO i

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do not fear for. HIM i do not have to
guide the through this time of. STRESS i do not
face the hatred of opponents and the. PRESS i won't
be blamed when soldiers die in service to the. NATION
i won't face baseless charges of a war crime. Violation

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nothing is required of, me not, courage, smart or. Grit
our leader's, lead our soldiers. FIGHT i sit and. Watch that's.
It my only cost is at the. Pump it's high,
now but will tumble and free speech MEANS i have
the right to groan and gripe and. Grumble the founders

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pledge their, fortunes lives and. Honor they risked it. All
compared to, theirs my sacrifice is really rather. Small i'll
drop my streaming, services give up five, dollars, coffees, concerts, ballgames,
dinners out my chocolate cashew. Toffees our freedom isn't, true that's,

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True SO i won't fuss or. Chase i'll gladly pay
some extra bucks to keep my family space the. End
and the second poem is also a serious. One are
you still? There we are.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
HERE i just didn't want to interrupt.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
You, okay, cool all. Right the second, poem it's also
a serious. One it's dedicated to everyone who's ever had
to make a difficult decision about an elderly, dog which
my wife had to do a few years. Ago the
poem is about A siberian husky who was part of
our family for eleven. Years it is a, sonnet it's
red a g it's one minute and five seconds, long

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and it's called The Final act Of. Kindness it wraps
around the veins inside her chest nine inches. Long they
cannot cut its ties By MoMA is an uninvited. Guest
there is sadness in her light blue husky, eyes not

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eating four six, days she is going. South it's shocking
since you looks so very. Young she tries to lick
the left side of her, mouth but does not have
the strength to lift her. Tongue she sits, upright consoled
by my embrace until the vet arrives in gloves and.

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Gown he pulls three full syringes from his. Case the
first a sedative to calm her. Down the next brings.
Sleep she crumples on her. Side the third brings, death
where love and loss.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Collide the End, mark as, ALWAYS i very much appreciate.
It did you write those this? Week over the? Uh
just been something you've been tinkering?

Speaker 5 (23:03):
On? Well the dog poem was many years, ago and
the the high gas prices was this?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Week gotcha the dog THAT i COMPLETELY i am in
tune with you BECAUSE i lost a dog WHEN i
was right out of high. School and it's people don't
understand if you don't have an, animal it's it's literally
part of your. Family and people who don't have animals
don't understand.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
That absolutely. True all, Right zach And ella you have
a wonderful, day a wonderful. Week you.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
TOO i appreciate. It, mark talk to you next week
in Law man. Two how are?

Speaker 6 (23:36):
You i'm, Good? Zach thank? You can you hear?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
ME i could hear? You what's on your mind? Today you?

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Know my father used to, say if you want to hurt,
somebody hit him in the, wallet and And Ben franklin
said That i'm quoting here with the people find they
can vote themselves, money that will harald the end of the?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Republic, yeah who who said?

Speaker 5 (24:09):
That?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Again i've heard that that quote was from way back
in the.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Day, YEAH i got a meme here that says it
Was franklin that, said when the people find they can
vote themselves, money that will herald the end of the.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Republic, okay it might have Been, franklin but that said of.
It that idea was encapsulated by some. Philosopher it wasn't.
Worded they, say it wasn't the same, verbiage but somebody
back in The greek days of Like, sparta and so
they said this not. Money of, course it wasn't phrase
the same, way but the same kind of. Idea so

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that is nothing. New that idea isn't. New But franklin
might have rewarded it or you, know came up with
it on his, Own but that's not a new. Thing
so it's it's it's a very important thing that a
lot of people.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Miss.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, money, money, money, money you, know it's a means of.
Exchange in The bible says it's the love of money
that's the root of all. Evil i'd just like to
say that this bullying and in this alignment with The
Zionist israel and the continuing genocide In gaza where rats
are now biting people and going through their. Tents it's

(25:27):
a hell escape and our money is paying for it
because of our allegiance to The zionists that are really.
Murderers and somebody said that war crimes baseless war, crimes
and now they're war. Crimes when civilians and children they're
starved and they're, bombed it's. Terrible so WHAT i, suggest

(25:47):
and it's been going a long long, time is the
boycott digest in sanctioned, movement and, SPECIFICALLY i think we
as consumers can boycott McDonald's Coca. Cola these are two
major companies and And i'd just like us to boycott,
them hit their bottom line so that the message can

(26:08):
go through to the powers that, be the corrupt powers that,
be that it's time to stop the proxy war In,
ukraine but especially stopping the genocide In gaza and this
war On iran and The Persian gulf and and gas
prices may come, down but they may get even, higher

(26:32):
and we're going to be hurting as. Consumers and talk
about Protecting, america we're not Protecting america by aligning with The.
ISRAELIS i just hope they don't go with The samson
option and and use nuclear weapons because they have plenty of,
them and it's it is. Sad so, yeah boycott McDonald's

(26:53):
And Coca cola, please all, RIGHT.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I appreciate, it Law, man interesting thoughts this. Morning all,
right we'll be back at a few quick commercial break.
Seconds this Is Zachary sworts on SIX anwtvn six AN
wtvn open. PHONES i Have zachary. Schwortz ella is in
there Doing ella, things and we appreciate her being. Here

(27:18):
can you hear?

Speaker 7 (27:19):
ME i can hear?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
You are you? Sure?

Speaker 7 (27:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
OKAY i wanted to know because apparently nobody else. COULD
i just.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
Don't, yeah since we have a, MOMENT i Guess i'm
gonna get on my. Soapbox AND i don't understand it
happens WHEN i answer the phone. Too i'll pick up
the phone And i'll say six', ten wtvn and the
first thing someone, will say can you?

Speaker 7 (27:43):
Hear me what CLUE have i GIVEN that i can't?

Speaker 8 (27:47):
Thus far if you, say hi this IS zach i
want to be on, the SHOW and i, say nothing
that's the.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
Thirty Seconds, then hello can you? Hear ME but i
don't understand SIX N wtv can you?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Hear ME yeahs.

Speaker 8 (28:02):
I can't and then on, The, air, Hey, hey johnny
you're on, the air boll can you?

Speaker 7 (28:07):
Hear me we haven't given any clue that. We haven't
if we can't, hear you we'll hang up.

Speaker 8 (28:11):
On you or if you, hear us, say, hello hello are,
you there that would.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Imply we can't. Hear, you otherwise, just talk just, do
it go. Into it you're wasting. Your time can you?
Hear me can you? Hear hello can you? Hear me
just go into? Your point?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Fair, enough okay? Fair, enough no it makes. Complete SENSE
and i throughout the week answer, phones TOO so i
get that MORE than i. Would like it's interesting that
the people who call back enough that are kind of
that we know on, the show or people who call
other shows that are known to, the shows they never
do the hey can you? Hear me it's more along the,

(28:47):
lines well but it's more along the lines, of hey
how you? Do it is? The, sound okay especially if it's,
a guest you KNOW what? I mean just to make
sure that, hard lady can you, Hear me can you?
Hear me? It's callers maybe it's just something to. OPEN
fodes i. Don't know are you gonna go See The michael? Jackson, movie,

(29:09):
no uh.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
Probably not m IT'S doing i CAN it's i. Don't
know from my corner of the world and, my observations
and obviously it's only been. Two days it's, doing okay,
not great, not awful kind of middle of.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
THE road i think it's GONNA make i don't know
how much the ad. BUDGET is i don't know how
much it costs to, make it but it's definitely gonna.

Speaker 8 (29:33):
MAKE money i know it costs fifteen million just to
reshoot the to get the sexual allegation abuse allegations out.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
Of it, so yeah that was that chunk.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Of change there was like a whole third act that
had to be cut because one of THE people i
don't know. THE guy i know who the, guy IS
but i can't think of, his, name.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Right, yeah, yeah yeah one of the accusers, apparently.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Right he had a clause of subsort with maybe the
media Or. THE jacksonist i don't know that he couldn't,
be mentioned so THEY sho i don't know how much of,
a MOVIE.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
But i kind of doubt that he's not even one Of,
THE again i saw his name, as WELL and i
don't remember it because. He's not, you know there's more
famous names that have come.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Out and abused or. AND accused, i MEAN so i
find it hard.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
To believe it's not like just one person accused him
might have a whole trial with a bunch. Of ACCUSERS
so i find it hard to, Believe that, oh well
we had to take all of it out because this,
one person like you could have easily avoided using that
name and still had it. In there the estate just
didn't want any of it, in there which it's your,
FAMILY member, i guess of course.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
You don't but.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (30:40):
A biopic from the LITTLE bit i popped in and
out of it, last night and it's just kind of
FROM what, i SAW and i didn't, see much so
take this with a grain, Of salt but it's it's
just kind of like a.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
Concert film THAT'S what i. Heard too and, his NEPHEW
and i don't.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
Know what's, real anymore? Who KNOWS with CGI and ai,
and whatever you never know. What's real but from what
you see, on screen his nephew is, a fantastic very
talented dancer and does an incredible job. Portraying him love
him or hate, the man he does an incredible job,
portraying him and the dancing. Gets great so if you
enjoy the music and you want to see a recreation

(31:15):
Of the thriller video And The, bad concert there.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
YOU go i think that's where the. Movie ends it
does right At The. Bad concert, i've HEARD and i
don't know if it's true that they have some scene
that means that they're gonna have. A sequel.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
So when, THE movie i saw the very end of,
the movie it ends at The bad concert and then
it goes to black and it says the, story continues
and then the, Credits, roll so.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh wow that take that you.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
Want IT but i don't think they're, you know the
next chapter is not gonna be a.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Good ONE so i.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
CAN'T imagine i don't know what they would do next
if they're avoiding all the.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Abuse allegations you make a good point because the the
official announcement of the ending had to be changed because
there was a clause that they didn't notice in the
Paper where, i'm like this is a two hundred million
dollar movie and you shot a third or part of,
a movie and you didn't realize there was some claws

(32:09):
In the.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
But there's also no way it's just not that makes
no sense.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Right right and NOW why i didn't realize that until you. Said,
it actually so if they did refilm the whole thing
and they ended it on the, Bad Cut michael jackson
was a. Weird guy the end is it the Rise
Of michael jackson and then the Fall Of, michael jackson
because even after, the allegations he released an album or

(32:36):
two and he was hugely, popular still.

Speaker 8 (32:39):
Especially overseas there's no fall depicted in. This movie it
ends in nineteen. Eighty eight so it's just.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
All good it's just.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
ALL well I mean i haven't watched, the movie but not.
All good you see like his father and, you, know.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah he's super.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
NICE guy. I, Heard yeah but as far As Presenting
michael jackson leave it is all in a, good, tone,
Yes okay and so, YOU'RE yeah i mean you're missing
FROM what i gather All Of neverland ranch and his
relationship with children whatever, it was there was. A relationship

(33:18):
now you can say it was inappropriate or, not inappropriate
but he did hang out. With kids that's not Included
His Lisa marie. Presley era do you remember? That?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Kiss yeah do you? REMEMBER that i was junior high
maybe NINTH, GRADE ti i, can't REMEMBER and i remember
seeing that and, going.

Speaker 8 (33:37):
Ooh yeah that was Weird, doing yeah that's not, you
know all of that is not covered obviously because it
ends in.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Eighty eight so.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Did they GO after i wonder did they go after
or did they talk about the surgeries that he's had
or is that too Early? In jackson is That? LATER
jackson i think that would.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
BE later.

Speaker 8 (33:58):
I assume i did look THROUGH the IMDb list and
there is an actor credited as, plastic surgeon BUT so
i don't know if, there's something but it's. Definitely not,
you know.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
It seems that he went from a good looking young
man and then He had does he? HAVE vidligo i?

Speaker 8 (34:20):
Think so at least that's what, was said and that may,
be true but there was it wasn't just his skin.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
CHANGING color a lot more went on the nose.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
And yeah the nose seemed to change and then it
just went and.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
Did it fall off at? One point wasn't that? A
thing i remember that moment in time vaguely it opens in.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
The movie It's not i'm, telling you he may be
attractive when this.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Movie ends maybe in the next movie it's about. His
nose nobody needs the story.

Speaker 7 (34:48):
To continue it's not going anywhere good.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
From here could THERE be i could see Them making
okay a part two and he's going through all these
trials and tribulations and he is found in in, the
trial and that could be kind of. THE ending i.
Wasn't guilty i've, you know a triumph at. The end
maybe and then, He dies but you KNOW what, i

(35:11):
mean maybe there's a thread there that they could somewhat
sanitize it and make it where he comes out on
the other end as the. Good. Guy again there's allegations.
ARE weird I don't i. Don't know i'm not saying
what he did or didn't DO because i, don't know
but they're. Definitely there and the way he acted around
kids was not becoming of a.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Normal.

Speaker 8 (35:34):
ADULT yeah, i Look if i'm the Estate Of michael
JACKSON and i want him presented in a, GOOD light
i would just leave, it there end on a, high note, All,
Right yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
But the sec the, second one, for me it would
be interesting to see how they WOULD. PORTRAY i i wouldn't.
WATCH it i don't.

Speaker 8 (35:53):
WANT to i DON'T, because i first, of all it's,
not fact it's not, a documentary it's. Not unbiased SO
do i want to watch some, movie that, you know.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Let's say he is guilty of.

Speaker 8 (36:05):
Horrible THINGS do i want to watch a movie defend
him and put the blame on.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
His, victims yeah we only got a couple. OF secondaries
i started watching one of those documentaries, on him and
one of his accusers was TALK and i love. Horror
movies you could tell why my tattoos and the THINGS
that i wear and. ALL that i got a little
bit into one. OF them i had to turn. IT
off i, WAS like i can't even listen.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
To, it, well yeah it's, real life it's. Real kids it's.
Not ENTERTAINING yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I know it definitely. Isn't, entertaining no. Just awful all right?

Speaker 8 (36:34):
To go

Speaker 7 (36:36):
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