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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And this is Saturday Morning Open Foondes. I'm your host,
Zachary Schwartz. Good morning Columbus, Hello, Ohio. The show's about
you and what you want to talk about. I'll throw
some things in there as usual. If you agree or disagree,
feel free to call in. The number to call in
is always six one four eight two one nine eight eight.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Six six one four eight.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Two one w tv N and we got I want
to get to lawman because you've been on for a
really long time.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I appreciate it. How are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm fine, Zach, Thank you so much. Yeah, I didn't
wait that long this morning. And you know your weather
report eighty one is a high today and then storms
and then the high fifty two tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's definitely got a cool down overnight.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hey, I want to here on on Easter weekend. You know,
I was a religious studies major at Reandolph Macon College
in Ashland, Virgil and you and then I did an
interview to go to seminary at Northwestern and as a
religious studies major, you know, you don't have that many
job prospects and uh, and so I went started graduate
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school University of Florida, and and became a guidance counselor,
which is, you know, there's a mission. We we want
to influence people. We want to exercise influence in this
world upon our fellow man, our brothers and sisters. Right,
and and so I want to make the point that
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the literal the literalism that that Jesus actually rose from
the dead behind, you know, out of the tomb and
the and the stone was gone, and then he appeared
to Peter, and he the literalism is confusing to people.
The real truth of Christianity is metaphorical. God is Love.
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That's one John four eight, the Book of John. You know,
John was the only apostle that wasn't killed by the
uh the scribes and the Pharisees and the and the
Roman authorities. And John was sent to the pet Most
where he wrote the books John, one John, and also
the Book of Revelations, and and God is Love. That's
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the only way that God isn't a supreme being. Now, Lincoln,
in his effort to be elected, kind of pandered to
the people and said he believed in the supreme being
and and and the Confederates and the Union both prayed
to the same God. But you know, God can't be
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right when there's war, and both sides were praying to him.
So the only way that God can be omniscient, all knowing,
on the present, everywhere at once, knowing even a feather drops,
you know, from the sky, and then omnipotent, all powerful.
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The only way that can be literally true is if
God is the love. It is love, and love is
a dynamic force that that has that that there's the
attraction force. We're attracted the things, uh, and we're also
repelled by things. So that dynamic that that back and
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forth is God and so loving one another. You know,
we've all got boundaries. So you love, you love the sinner,
you hate the sin, and so I think it's a
sin to allow people to be really hornswoggled, fool bamboozled
by these Elmer Gantry type of evangelists. Read Sinclair Lewis's
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Elmer Gantry and learned that there's a lot of Charlatan's
out there that will say that there's a heaven and
a hell and paradise. One of your Wendy said paradise,
We want paradise. Well, the Kingdom of God is within us, Zach.
And so I want people to feel good about themselves.
I want them to get along better with other people.
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And I want you to have a you know, people
to have a good relationship with their conscience. And Jesus's
commands were to love that God with all their heart
and also to love one another. And that's that's the
essence of Christianity. So so love one another. It's not easy,
you know. Jesus he's the icon because he said, not
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not only love one another, but love your enemies. Oh
my god, that's too radical for us, isn't it, Zach.
We don't want to take another six slaps in the face.
We want we want to, you know, remove yourself. My
father was an hour somebody mentioned alcoholism and drug abuse,
and alcohol is still the number one drug problem substance
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in this country. But when you try and you, you know,
prohibit it. When prohibition came about, people want freedom. Freedom
means nothing without choices. So I asked, I asked us
all to choose to love one another. And if you
have an enemy, you know, Lincoln said, I destroy my
enemies by making them my friends. And that's the kind
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of attitude that is really holy and saintly and we
can all strive for that, we'd have a better world.
So no war is not the answer, that's for sure.
And lies are cold and dark. The truth must struggle
to be free. The truth, the light must struggle to exist.
Lies are dark and ugly, and Beauty's truth, truth, beauty.
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That's all we know. All we need to know. That
was John Keiths who died too young.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
And so thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
For listening to me, Zach, and have a great Holy
Day weekend knowing that God is love, period one job.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I very much appreciate it. Law you have a great weekend,
have great Easter there.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Okay, thank you, Sack.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
All right, six WTV.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
At open folds, we're going to talk about maybe a
little bit more about Pam BONDI. I want to mention
Artemis and uh Marco Rubio, who is came out and
just said he's against uh birthright citizenship, which I understand,
things change and things are are different than they were
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the seventies or the eighties even, but I just found
it a bit ironic that he was born into Miami
in seventy one.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
To people who were human immigrants.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He himself is technically what they call an anchor, Baby.
I just find it funny that at this law birthright
citizenship was taken away, that he would not be a citizen.
Would that Is that going to affect him going forward?
It's just pretty interesting that he's advocating for some thing
that would not have benefited him if it was not
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in place at the time. All Right, we'll be right
back Adam, Tom, Bob and others. On hold, we'll get
back to you on Open Folds on six to WTV in.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
WTV in I am Zachary Swartz.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Thank you for tuning in to Saturday morning Open Folds,
and I'm gonna call in as always six one four
eight six six four eight two one WTV in. Bob,
how are you this morning?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Great today? Please the Lord? Well, it's You've got a
lot of wonderful conversations out there. Uh, but did the
entire things about all this talk about God? Uh? Basically,
he gave us a book we can read it. It's
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called the Bible, a real Bible. I'm suggest you know
sixteen eleven version of the King James version of the Bible,
or perhaps perhaps the Geneva Bible. And bottom line is
if you read it, and it's quite authoritative because the
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author of that thing, God cannot lie. It's one thing
he cannot do. And the problem is people don't study
the Bible. They don't want to believe it. They've been
lied to a lot because they've been involved with a
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bunch of basically false religions. They will tell you this,
that and the other, and that's not what the Bible says.
Bottom line is, get out there, read the Bible. Start
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and the way that you start having a new life
is when you call out to guard it. That's called
prayer and you admit, well, you're a sinner and because
that sinner has to be paid for and because of that,
that's why Jesus was obedience to God, to Father who
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sent him with the spirit of wisdom, the spirit of holiness,
the Holy Ghost, and the moment that you receive him,
everything everything completely totally changes for forty years, well actually
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one day, shy of forty years of life. You can
have a lot of religion, but if they never ever
uh say the name Jesus can save you from your sin,
and you're never implided to receive Jesus as your Lord
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and savior because every every thing changes completely and totally.
I mean, for the first time in your life and
the rest of your life, you're going to have joy, happiness.
It's unbelievable to change that he does. And am I
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Am I going to get in into heaven because of
my exact obedience to the word of God. Nope, I shain't.
I don't know how much I've sinned, but I know
it's a lot, because well, there's a world, the flesh
and the devil. And that's the problem bout of mind
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is we can try to do that. We can. The
good news is we can pray and bring our concerns
to God. But that that entire thing all begins with
people being honest, truthful, and that's where God's into all that,
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and he'll take care of all this. I just like
to tell you right now. And by the way, you
you hit on a subject there. The young lady that
was tired fired Pam Bondy. I think she was doing
a great job that that entire thing. But I did
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know one thing when they came out there and they
didn't have anything about mister Epstein. That was a big negative,
huge negative.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That she shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
He did a lot. He did a lot of very
negative things that and if he actually think he committed suicide,
I don't believe that one.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There's there's a lot of shall we say, lies going
on out there. The good news for us is that
there is one good government. It's God, the Father, God
the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. And he never lies.
He wants you to have a great eternity. He wants
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you to prosper. He wants the best for you.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And I have to do is to find out what
type of church am I actually going to. If you're
going to a church, uh, if they don't invite you
to receive Jesus says your Lord and Savior at the
end of the sermon, Buddy, you're in the wrong church.
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That's not a good church. But go with that Bible
and believe God because He's He's amazing, absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I hear you, Bob. Are you do you have any
big plans for Easter?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Amen? I'm singing in the choir for I go to
First Baptist Church of Columbus, which is located just basically
inside of Columbus, and it's thrown across. Uh. There's a
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bridge as your inner Columbus from from Rentalsburg which is
where I live. But bottom line is I certainly certainly
wish everybody uh well, frankly, a wonderful passover and especially Easter.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Because absolutely, Bob, you have a good uh Easter Sunday,
Easter weekend. I appreciate you calling in as always. Adam
line one, how are you this morning?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Good morning everybody, and good morning to you, Zachary. This
is my first time calling. It's great to be a
part of this wonderful broadcast with such awake people. And
I just wanted to follow up really quickly from an
earlier caller, Mike, who discussed nine to eleven. Sure, nine
to eleven is a very personal subject for me. I
spent two hundred and forty hours at the Pentagon from
the eleventh to the thirtieth clean up what I believe
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is a false flag attack.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Oh wow, you before you go to where you were?
Were you living in the area at the time, or
did you just get were you you know, called there
to go help just clean up.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
My unit was stationed not far away. I was part
of the third US Infantry.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
That was not part of our mission. We were not
at the Pentagon, but we were deployed there shortly after
it happened. Okay, see, I just I asked everybody that's listening,
you know, while we're cracking open our bibles and celebrating
the resurrection of our Lord's Savior this weekend, you know,
I really ask all listeners who spend some time with
the history books and the face reality of what our
country has been a part of for a very long time,
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you know, much longer than most of us have been alive.
And you know, people might be familiar with the with
the teachings of Yuri Besmanov, but he said, you know,
the highest art of warfare is not to fight at all,
but to subvert anything of value in a country of
your enemy until such time that the perception of reality
of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent
that you do not, you know, basically get perceived as
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the enemy at all. And you know, while we're also
cracking our Bible to open, I asked everybody to, like
I said, get into the history books, understand what happened
on March thirteenth, nineteen sixty two with Operation Northwoods, which
was green lighted all the way up to Kennedy, but
it was denied and that was the baby of a
general named Lyman Lemitzner. I mean, that's that right, There
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was September eleventh, you know, one point zero. As I say,
we're talking about false flag terror attacks. We're talking about
attacks on US military assets, civilian deception, manufactured casualties, psychological operations,
and total media and narrative control. And while we're also
looking at that. You know, if people think that, you know,
America could never do this to itself, to invade foreign land,
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look at what our CIA has done between the coups,
the covert operations, the invasions, the proxy wars, the political
pressure and influence that they've had.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
People.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
People get very upset with me because one of the
big problems I have is America's foreign policy, at least
since I've been alive, and that's Reagan, and we've done
some not so great things, let's put it gently, people out.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
The absolutely and we continue to do not so great things.
Look at the DoD corruption. Even there, we haven't declared
war since not you know, World War Two. It's it's
always something else. It's police action, military action, military ops,
armed conflict. The author is for use. It's all a
big word game just to avoid Congress getting involved, which
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that doesn't even matter anymore because APEX totally controls our
Congress completely. But you know, echoing what Mike said earlier
about General Wesley Clark in the Seven Countries in five years,
I mean, we are looking at the Greater Israel projects
and if people still think that, oh, it's just one
caller in his opinion, he spent extensive time on side.
Didn't see planes, you know, no plane parts. No the
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bodies that looked like they were on you know, a plane,
I ask you, you know why You're also getting into
the history books. Look up the testimony of April Gallop.
She was a survivor to the attack that was located
right inside the area of the Pentagon where the building
was hit. You know, get into do Aldo Marquis and
Craig Ranky's research. I mean, they can be found at
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National Security alert dot com. You know understand that it
go at the airport that day. You know there were
three hundred cameras located at that airport, but we only
got one piece of footage, and that piece of footage
is incredibly flawed. There's no timestamps. There's speed issues, and
if there were five, you know, terrorists on this aircraft
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that day, then why can we only see three in
that one little segment.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, I do not have the answer for you. We're
up against a break, Adam, don't be a stranger. You
got some interesting things going on. I'm not sure if
I agree with everything, but that's what part of the
show is going in to agree or disagree. We can
have an extended conversation if you want. But again, we're
up against the breaks such as radio is. We'll be
right back on six to WTV and Brother fifty coming in.
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I helped him produce the song back at two thousand
and two.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm from the streets. In case people didn't know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, Tom Line to six WTV and open fodes.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Good morning, sir, good morning.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Thanks again for your program. You can hear me.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah, you sound fine?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, great, Okay. I wanted to address something. It's a
complex subject and a lot of people want to say, oh,
it's it's simple. It's not simple. But I'm involved with
a group that is trying to get an act passed
that did not pass in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh well, that's simple. That's just simple to deal with. Yeah,
I don't know what your problem is, but that's easy stuff. No,
go ahead, tom.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
So this back in nineteen thirteen, according to the kind
of the originator of this act, who's Steven ZARLINGA. He
contended that when we created the FED that we basically
were selling out to the private banking community, and that
it was something we just did not have to do.
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And so this is a radical proposal, and it was
supported by Dennis Kucinich. And I believe he's out of
wasn'ty in Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
He's from Yeah, he was from up in Cleveland. I
know he's from Ohio. He didn't have much of a
chance to become president, I don't think. But he always
seemed like, whether you agree or disagree with him, somebody
who actually believed in what he said.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
He seemed pretty earnest to me.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
But yeah, very sincere and well meaning. So, uh, this,
this act essentially would eliminate fractional reserve banking, and it
would pay off the national debt. The bond holders would
not take a haircut, they would gradually be paid off.
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All the individual banks would their federal reserve money would
be returned. I'm just concerned. I could just ramble about
this for a long time. But some of the origins
of this, it's largely Steven Zarlinga. He was influenced by
the Chicago Plan. You know, during the depression in nineteen
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thirty three, there was a lot of thinking obviously that
was going on about what went wrong, So that was
a foundational thinking period. Zarlinga also based this on the
colonial era, in particular Pennsylvania Benjamin Franklin. Back in the
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colonial era, each state had their own currency and they
could issue what's called sovereign money without debt. There's no
need for us to when we need to build new infrastructure,
the government can create money. I know that sounds there's
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such a bilification of that idea of printing money and
the issues though we have to grow as the population grows.
If you have you don't grow your money. You can't
pay your people because you know there's deflation. So you
look at your human resources and determine, you know, how
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much capacity the economy has as a whole. It's kind
of a judgment call. And then under this new bill,
you'd have a monetary authority that would be in a
position to do that. There it would be nine appointed
members with six year terms. The president would appoint them.
And of course no plans perfect, you know that there's
all this room for corruption. But this is just a
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radically interesting plan. What I did before the call, say,
loaded the entire bill and the AI and they started
asking questions. I've had about three years of study on
this and was initially attracted to it through I was
kind of a modern monetary theory person. They also believe
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in fiat currency, but the problem with them and there's
a hole. There's actually a guy running for governor of
one of the Virgin Islands. Would it's you know, like
Puerto Rico is one of us is our territory, and
I guess we have some other islands. Anyhow, he's he's
having a dialogue. He believes he disagrees with this particular plan,
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and so there's debates about it. But to be clear,
it's called the Need Act, the Need Act of twenty eleven.
It's an acronym, you know, it's spelled like the word need.
And I urge people to just look it up in Wikipedia,
and you know, al Keith a few years to study it.
But it would basically prevent the banking system. There would
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be no more bank money. There would only be United
States sovereign money, and banks would not be able to
create money out of thin air. Gotchah, that's it. Like
I said, I could ramble for for a long time.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, I hear it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It sounds like it's something that you're very passionate about,
and probably more people need to pay attention. But there
seems to be a lot of nuance, goodness, nuance and
complexities to it that people are going to have to
do their homework.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And sometimes that doesn't it doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
So it's worth it though, because we all are so
dependent on money, and money is based on trust. Yeah,
and uh, you know we as a society can control it.
So again, thanks so much for what the platform you're providing.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Not a problem, Tommy. You have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Okay you too?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
All right? Mark the poet, Mark, how are you this morning?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Doing just fine? Exact? Today's poem is dedicated to everyone
who aspires to do something new and exciting in their life.
All right back in two Back in two thousand and eight,
I attended the bodybuilding competition and I came home and
had a conversation with my wife, and then I wrote
this poem. It is one one minute and ten seconds long.
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It's rated G, and it's called Aspiring to work as
a male model. The Arnold Classic came to town with
bodybuilders of renown. Those fab physiques left me inspired. Perhaps
I too have what's required. I'll bulk up here and
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slim down there. Then I can model underwear. A model's
work is not so tough, I said, and stripped down
to the buff. The mirror helped me to reflect. I
saw two spots I must correct. My abs need work.
I've got to cut before I take the stage and strut.
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The second issue that I find my pecks. They must
be more defined. I hid these spots with my two
hands and asked my wife to grade my plans. Yeah.
I watched her pause and contemplate her careful thoughts would
carry weight, she said, male models face demands. I think
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you're going to need more hands the end.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Hello, Yes, I got you, Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I had a problem with my mike for a second.
Good job, Marques per usual. I have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, all right you two, Zachly, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
All right, six a WTV and we'll get Pete and
Tom and we get back. Good morning Columbus, Good morning, Ohio.
It is nice to be here talking to you.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And uh what second?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Here as God as my witness, I thought turkeys could.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Flash the famous episode from WKRP at Cincinnati, the call Holiday. Yeah,
those call letters are doubted, uh North Carolina. They are
actually coming to Cincinnati from North Carolina. Can't tell you when,
can't tell you exactly by whom or how it was done.
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But the manager in uh, let's see Raleigh, North Carolina
said that the famous w k RP letters are coming
to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And the Turkey Drop episode had to be just in
television history, one of the best things I've ever seen
in my life. And I watched it I don't know
how many times over the years, especially since the Internet.
But really cool that WKRP those call letters are coming
to coming to Cincinnati, Cincinnati officially or Cincinnatalie Cincinnatalie.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
That's that'd be a great screen name if my name
was Natalie and I lived in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I dated a girl named Natalie from Cincinnati, so I
get them confused a lot.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I did not date a girl from Cincinnati before. Okay, five, Tom,
how are you?
Speaker 8 (28:06):
I'm good?
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Are you good?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Good?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:09):
I remember that w k R P two that was
pretty good. Uh, but I'm glad to here's the Uh,
some of the callers are starting to push back on
the Trump regime, you know, like we like to call
these other governments regimes. Uh, Michael, the only thing I
would agree disagree with you on is that the stuff
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started way before nine to eleven. But uh, yeah, we've
been going in having coups on this country and taking
over that country. And do you ever listen to Trump
when he's on TV. My god, he's he's he's got dementia.
He's just as the only difference between him and Biden
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is Biden sent back and ate ice cream. He wasn't
taken over all these other countries.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Look, I again, people get mad at me because I
have a massive problem with our foreign policy.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
And we have.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I mean, we back Pinche and Chili, we we back
Norwega and pan them all for a long time before
we took him out. I mean I could cover Ford
all the way to George W. Bush that we monetarily
fightded and sometimes with arms. The Indonesian invasion and colonization
of East Timore that killed one hundred and eighty five
to two hundred and eighty thousand people. So we have
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done our American our foreign policy is atrocious in a
lot of ways. And that that goes across all parties,
Democrat or Republican, and you know, and then they.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Can't people just can't seem to understand why Iran calls
us the Great Saintan.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
That that's also a different. Iran's a little bit different.
I mean we did do we get our regime change
in Iran back in the fifties when we installed the
Shaw of Iran and put them under a secular dictatorship
for twenty six years, but.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
That whole problems.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, the regime now is and with a lot of
people in the Middle East, it's a it's an ideology
and there's different variations of it. The Sudis and she
is and what they fight over the interpretations of the
Koran and this and that. But it's it's not easy
to fight there, to put it, to put it mildly,
But as far as American or a policy, I can't
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disagree with you.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Well, Immerves Russia Putin was forced into that mass. Watch
Ukraine Burning. It's a one hour documentary on what's been
going on in Ukraine the after Victoria Neulan and John
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McCain went in there and overthrew the government and installed
a gay comedian, gay porno comedian, which is Zelensky Zilansky. Yeah,
I look it up. He was he did gay porn
and he's a comedian.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, I mean, both of those things are funny, depending
on your outlook. Tom very much appreciate your comps.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So you had to wait on.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I've tried to get through all the callers as quick
as I can before the show's Pete, how are you
this morning?
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Hey, good morning. Thanks for doing the show at Easter
you too. You know, I'm a little thank you. I'm
a little tired of the conspiracy theories. I mean, I yes,
our foreign policy hasn't been the greatest.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
But.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
About I think nineteen eighty seven, Donald Trump was on
the Oprah Show talking about how evil Iran is.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I've seen yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Shortly after, right after ninety eleven happened the number one
person in our military, five star General Norman Schwartzkof was
on National TV saying, calling those terrorist bastards for what
they did. So you know all of this conspiracy, you know,
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talk and how the the government knew about all this
inside job, et cetera, et cetera. No, I'm it's I don't.
Let's just look at you know, some some facts, some
videos and another one Benjamin Netanyahu, at least ten years ago,
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I saw where he clearly had a chart of how
close Irans was too well excuse me, at that time
it was it wasn't as close as they are now.
But you know, he was very concerned about how close
they were to developing a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So you there's clips of that for back in nineteen
ninety five of Netnall who's saying that the problem with
this isn't open force. So I let people talk as
much as they as they want, even if I disagree.
The problem with trying to debate people who are are
conspiracy theorists is that there's when there's no evidence, there's
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nothing to argue, there's nothing to debate, and then if
somebody believes something that is a conspiracy and you ask
for evidence, then the conspiracy gets.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Bigger and bigger and bigger with no evidence. So it's
just a never ending circular argument that goes nowhere.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
But okay, understood, understood, what your point. But you know,
you know, you've got people who are saying, you know,
what is Israel supposed to do? I mean, they've got
they're surrounded by people who want to kill them, who
who stated that they want to, you know, wipe them
off the face of the earth, and and and and
and you know, for for people to suggest that that
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Net and Yahoo that he has other motives besides defending
his people, I mean, do they forget about what happened
on October the seventh. So it's you know, it's very
easy for people in our country who live, you know,
who are not surrounded by people who want to kill them,
just to to spout all these consipiracy theories. But you know,
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and in this last caller you just said, and he
just said about how Iran calls this the great Satan? Well, hello,
what do you call Iran? They're the number one state
sponsored world terrorism.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (34:38):
There, Iran is the Great Satan.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
I just.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
I don't know if I Yeah, people just have anti
Trump political feelings, so they think that you know, they're
trying to write the cotails of anything that Trump does.
They're against. It's just getting old. I mean, let's try
to put yourself in there in the shoes of the
Israeli people.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I've always been in favor of Israel at the very
least should have the ability to defend themselves. I mean,
the well Israel, if you go back this far, then
Israelis weren't there, that the Jewish people weren't there, and
then they got kicked out.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
They're there now, they're there. They're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
So the idea there are countries at terrorist groups who
stated goals wants to want to wipe out Israel and
the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And I don't mind helping pay for the Iron Dome
and you know, things like that.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
But again, it's really hard to get into all the intricacies,
and Pete, I appreciate you calling it. It's hard to
get into all the intricacies and things because conspiracy theories
are just varied, very difficult to debate. All right, stick
around for auto smarts. This is Zachary Schwartz on six
t WTV and open Phones
And this is Saturday Morning Open Foondes. I'm your host,
Zachary Schwartz. Good morning Columbus, Hello, Ohio. The show's about
you and what you want to talk about. I'll throw
some things in there as usual. If you agree or disagree,
feel free to call in. The number to call in
is always six one four eight two one nine eight eight.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Six six one four eight.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Two one w tv N and we got I want
to get to lawman because you've been on for a
really long time.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I appreciate it. How are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm fine, Zach, Thank you so much. Yeah, I didn't
wait that long this morning. And you know your weather
report eighty one is a high today and then storms
and then the high fifty two tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's definitely got a cool down overnight.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Hey, I want to here on on Easter weekend. You know,
I was a religious studies major at Reandolph Macon College
in Ashland, Virgil and you and then I did an
interview to go to seminary at Northwestern and as a
religious studies major, you know, you don't have that many
job prospects and uh, and so I went started graduate
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school University of Florida, and and became a guidance counselor,
which is, you know, there's a mission. We we want
to influence people. We want to exercise influence in this
world upon our fellow man, our brothers and sisters. Right,
and and so I want to make the point that
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the literal the literalism that that Jesus actually rose from
the dead behind, you know, out of the tomb and
the and the stone was gone, and then he appeared
to Peter, and he the literalism is confusing to people.
The real truth of Christianity is metaphorical. God is Love.
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That's one John four eight, the Book of John. You know,
John was the only apostle that wasn't killed by the
uh the scribes and the Pharisees and the and the
Roman authorities. And John was sent to the pet Most
where he wrote the books John, one John, and also
the Book of Revelations, and and God is Love. That's
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the only way that God isn't a supreme being. Now, Lincoln,
in his effort to be elected, kind of pandered to
the people and said he believed in the supreme being
and and and the Confederates and the Union both prayed
to the same God. But you know, God can't be
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right when there's war, and both sides were praying to him.
So the only way that God can be omniscient, all knowing,
on the present, everywhere at once, knowing even a feather drops,
you know, from the sky, and then omnipotent, all powerful.
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The only way that can be literally true is if
God is the love. It is love, and love is
a dynamic force that that has that that there's the
attraction force. We're attracted the things, uh, and we're also
repelled by things. So that dynamic that that back and
(03:30):
forth is God and so loving one another. You know,
we've all got boundaries. So you love, you love the sinner,
you hate the sin, and so I think it's a
sin to allow people to be really hornswoggled, fool bamboozled
by these Elmer Gantry type of evangelists. Read Sinclair Lewis's
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Elmer Gantry and learned that there's a lot of Charlatan's
out there that will say that there's a heaven and
a hell and paradise. One of your Wendy said paradise,
We want paradise. Well, the Kingdom of God is within us, Zach.
And so I want people to feel good about themselves.
I want them to get along better with other people.
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And I want you to have a you know, people
to have a good relationship with their conscience. And Jesus's
commands were to love that God with all their heart
and also to love one another. And that's that's the
essence of Christianity. So so love one another. It's not easy,
you know. Jesus he's the icon because he said, not
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not only love one another, but love your enemies. Oh
my god, that's too radical for us, isn't it, Zach.
We don't want to take another six slaps in the face.
We want we want to, you know, remove yourself. My
father was an hour somebody mentioned alcoholism and drug abuse,
and alcohol is still the number one drug problem substance
(04:59):
in this country. But when you try and you, you know,
prohibit it. When prohibition came about, people want freedom. Freedom
means nothing without choices. So I asked, I asked us
all to choose to love one another. And if you
have an enemy, you know, Lincoln said, I destroy my
enemies by making them my friends. And that's the kind
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of attitude that is really holy and saintly and we
can all strive for that, we'd have a better world.
So no war is not the answer, that's for sure.
And lies are cold and dark. The truth must struggle
to be free. The truth, the light must struggle to exist.
Lies are dark and ugly, and Beauty's truth, truth, beauty.
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That's all we know. All we need to know. That
was John Keiths who died too young.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
And so thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
For listening to me, Zach, and have a great Holy
Day weekend knowing that God is love, period one job.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I very much appreciate it. Law you have a great weekend,
have great Easter there.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Okay, thank you, Sack.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
All right, six WTV.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
At open folds, we're going to talk about maybe a
little bit more about Pam BONDI. I want to mention
Artemis and uh Marco Rubio, who is came out and
just said he's against uh birthright citizenship, which I understand,
things change and things are are different than they were
(06:30):
the seventies or the eighties even, but I just found
it a bit ironic that he was born into Miami
in seventy one.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
To people who were human immigrants.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
He himself is technically what they call an anchor, Baby.
I just find it funny that at this law birthright
citizenship was taken away, that he would not be a citizen.
Would that Is that going to affect him going forward?
It's just pretty interesting that he's advocating for some thing
that would not have benefited him if it was not
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in place at the time. All Right, we'll be right
back Adam, Tom, Bob and others. On hold, we'll get
back to you on Open Folds on six to WTV in.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
WTV in I am Zachary Swartz.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Thank you for tuning in to Saturday morning Open Folds,
and I'm gonna call in as always six one four
eight six six four eight two one WTV in. Bob,
how are you this morning?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Great today? Please the Lord? Well, it's You've got a
lot of wonderful conversations out there. Uh, but did the
entire things about all this talk about God? Uh? Basically,
he gave us a book we can read it. It's
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called the Bible, a real Bible. I'm suggest you know
sixteen eleven version of the King James version of the Bible,
or perhaps perhaps the Geneva Bible. And bottom line is
if you read it, and it's quite authoritative because the
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author of that thing, God cannot lie. It's one thing
he cannot do. And the problem is people don't study
the Bible. They don't want to believe it. They've been
lied to a lot because they've been involved with a
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bunch of basically false religions. They will tell you this,
that and the other, and that's not what the Bible says.
Bottom line is, get out there, read the Bible. Start
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and the way that you start having a new life
is when you call out to guard it. That's called
prayer and you admit, well, you're a sinner and because
that sinner has to be paid for and because of that,
that's why Jesus was obedience to God, to Father who
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sent him with the spirit of wisdom, the spirit of holiness,
the Holy Ghost, and the moment that you receive him,
everything everything completely totally changes for forty years, well actually
(09:50):
one day, shy of forty years of life. You can
have a lot of religion, but if they never ever
uh say the name Jesus can save you from your sin,
and you're never implided to receive Jesus as your Lord
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and savior because every every thing changes completely and totally.
I mean, for the first time in your life and
the rest of your life, you're going to have joy, happiness.
It's unbelievable to change that he does. And am I
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Am I going to get in into heaven because of
my exact obedience to the word of God. Nope, I shain't.
I don't know how much I've sinned, but I know
it's a lot, because well, there's a world, the flesh
and the devil. And that's the problem bout of mind
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is we can try to do that. We can. The
good news is we can pray and bring our concerns
to God. But that that entire thing all begins with
people being honest, truthful, and that's where God's into all that,
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and he'll take care of all this. I just like
to tell you right now. And by the way, you
you hit on a subject there. The young lady that
was tired fired Pam Bondy. I think she was doing
a great job that that entire thing. But I did
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know one thing when they came out there and they
didn't have anything about mister Epstein. That was a big negative,
huge negative.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That she shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
He did a lot. He did a lot of very
negative things that and if he actually think he committed suicide,
I don't believe that one.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
There's there's a lot of shall we say, lies going
on out there. The good news for us is that
there is one good government. It's God, the Father, God
the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. And he never lies.
He wants you to have a great eternity. He wants
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you to prosper. He wants the best for you.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And I have to do is to find out what
type of church am I actually going to. If you're
going to a church, uh, if they don't invite you
to receive Jesus says your Lord and Savior at the
end of the sermon, Buddy, you're in the wrong church.
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That's not a good church. But go with that Bible
and believe God because He's He's amazing, absolutely amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I hear you, Bob. Are you do you have any
big plans for Easter?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Amen? I'm singing in the choir for I go to
First Baptist Church of Columbus, which is located just basically
inside of Columbus, and it's thrown across. Uh. There's a
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bridge as your inner Columbus from from Rentalsburg which is
where I live. But bottom line is I certainly certainly
wish everybody uh well, frankly, a wonderful passover and especially Easter.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Because absolutely, Bob, you have a good uh Easter Sunday,
Easter weekend. I appreciate you calling in as always. Adam
line one, how are you this morning?
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Good morning everybody, and good morning to you, Zachary. This
is my first time calling. It's great to be a
part of this wonderful broadcast with such awake people. And
I just wanted to follow up really quickly from an
earlier caller, Mike, who discussed nine to eleven. Sure, nine
to eleven is a very personal subject for me. I
spent two hundred and forty hours at the Pentagon from
the eleventh to the thirtieth clean up what I believe
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is a false flag attack.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Oh wow, you before you go to where you were?
Were you living in the area at the time, or
did you just get were you you know, called there
to go help just clean up.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
My unit was stationed not far away. I was part
of the third US Infantry.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
That was not part of our mission. We were not
at the Pentagon, but we were deployed there shortly after
it happened. Okay, see, I just I asked everybody that's listening,
you know, while we're cracking open our bibles and celebrating
the resurrection of our Lord's Savior this weekend, you know,
I really ask all listeners who spend some time with
the history books and the face reality of what our
country has been a part of for a very long time,
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you know, much longer than most of us have been alive.
And you know, people might be familiar with the with
the teachings of Yuri Besmanov, but he said, you know,
the highest art of warfare is not to fight at all,
but to subvert anything of value in a country of
your enemy until such time that the perception of reality
of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent
that you do not, you know, basically get perceived as
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the enemy at all. And you know, while we're also
cracking our Bible to open, I asked everybody to, like
I said, get into the history books, understand what happened
on March thirteenth, nineteen sixty two with Operation Northwoods, which
was green lighted all the way up to Kennedy, but
it was denied and that was the baby of a
general named Lyman Lemitzner. I mean, that's that right, There
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was September eleventh, you know, one point zero. As I say,
we're talking about false flag terror attacks. We're talking about
attacks on US military assets, civilian deception, manufactured casualties, psychological operations,
and total media and narrative control. And while we're also
looking at that. You know, if people think that, you know,
America could never do this to itself, to invade foreign land,
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look at what our CIA has done between the coups,
the covert operations, the invasions, the proxy wars, the political
pressure and influence that they've had.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
People.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
People get very upset with me because one of the
big problems I have is America's foreign policy, at least
since I've been alive, and that's Reagan, and we've done
some not so great things, let's put it gently, people out.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
The absolutely and we continue to do not so great things.
Look at the DoD corruption. Even there, we haven't declared
war since not you know, World War Two. It's it's
always something else. It's police action, military action, military ops,
armed conflict. The author is for use. It's all a
big word game just to avoid Congress getting involved, which
(17:20):
that doesn't even matter anymore because APEX totally controls our
Congress completely. But you know, echoing what Mike said earlier
about General Wesley Clark in the Seven Countries in five years,
I mean, we are looking at the Greater Israel projects
and if people still think that, oh, it's just one
caller in his opinion, he spent extensive time on side.
Didn't see planes, you know, no plane parts. No the
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bodies that looked like they were on you know, a plane,
I ask you, you know why You're also getting into
the history books. Look up the testimony of April Gallop.
She was a survivor to the attack that was located
right inside the area of the Pentagon where the building
was hit. You know, get into do Aldo Marquis and
Craig Ranky's research. I mean, they can be found at
(18:04):
National Security alert dot com. You know understand that it
go at the airport that day. You know there were
three hundred cameras located at that airport, but we only
got one piece of footage, and that piece of footage
is incredibly flawed. There's no timestamps. There's speed issues, and
if there were five, you know, terrorists on this aircraft
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that day, then why can we only see three in
that one little segment.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, I do not have the answer for you. We're
up against a break, Adam, don't be a stranger. You
got some interesting things going on. I'm not sure if
I agree with everything, but that's what part of the
show is going in to agree or disagree. We can
have an extended conversation if you want. But again, we're
up against the breaks such as radio is. We'll be
right back on six to WTV and Brother fifty coming in.
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I helped him produce the song back at two thousand
and two.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm from the streets. In case people didn't know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, Tom Line to six WTV and open fodes.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Good morning, sir, good morning.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Thanks again for your program. You can hear me.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Okay, yeah, yeah, you sound fine?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Yeah, great, Okay. I wanted to address something. It's a
complex subject and a lot of people want to say, oh,
it's it's simple. It's not simple. But I'm involved with
a group that is trying to get an act passed
that did not pass in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh well, that's simple. That's just simple to deal with. Yeah,
I don't know what your problem is, but that's easy stuff. No,
go ahead, tom.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
So this back in nineteen thirteen, according to the kind
of the originator of this act, who's Steven ZARLINGA. He
contended that when we created the FED that we basically
were selling out to the private banking community, and that
it was something we just did not have to do.
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And so this is a radical proposal, and it was
supported by Dennis Kucinich. And I believe he's out of
wasn'ty in Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
He's from Yeah, he was from up in Cleveland. I
know he's from Ohio. He didn't have much of a
chance to become president, I don't think. But he always
seemed like, whether you agree or disagree with him, somebody
who actually believed in what he said.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
He seemed pretty earnest to me.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
But yeah, very sincere and well meaning. So, uh, this,
this act essentially would eliminate fractional reserve banking, and it
would pay off the national debt. The bond holders would
not take a haircut, they would gradually be paid off.
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All the individual banks would their federal reserve money would
be returned. I'm just concerned. I could just ramble about
this for a long time. But some of the origins
of this, it's largely Steven Zarlinga. He was influenced by
the Chicago Plan. You know, during the depression in nineteen
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thirty three, there was a lot of thinking obviously that
was going on about what went wrong, So that was
a foundational thinking period. Zarlinga also based this on the
colonial era, in particular Pennsylvania Benjamin Franklin. Back in the
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colonial era, each state had their own currency and they
could issue what's called sovereign money without debt. There's no
need for us to when we need to build new infrastructure,
the government can create money. I know that sounds there's
(21:50):
such a bilification of that idea of printing money and
the issues though we have to grow as the population grows.
If you have you don't grow your money. You can't
pay your people because you know there's deflation. So you
look at your human resources and determine, you know, how
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much capacity the economy has as a whole. It's kind
of a judgment call. And then under this new bill,
you'd have a monetary authority that would be in a
position to do that. There it would be nine appointed
members with six year terms. The president would appoint them.
And of course no plans perfect, you know that there's
all this room for corruption. But this is just a
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radically interesting plan. What I did before the call, say,
loaded the entire bill and the AI and they started
asking questions. I've had about three years of study on
this and was initially attracted to it through I was
kind of a modern monetary theory person. They also believe
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in fiat currency, but the problem with them and there's
a hole. There's actually a guy running for governor of
one of the Virgin Islands. Would it's you know, like
Puerto Rico is one of us is our territory, and
I guess we have some other islands. Anyhow, he's he's
having a dialogue. He believes he disagrees with this particular plan,
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and so there's debates about it. But to be clear,
it's called the Need Act, the Need Act of twenty eleven.
It's an acronym, you know, it's spelled like the word need.
And I urge people to just look it up in Wikipedia,
and you know, al Keith a few years to study it.
But it would basically prevent the banking system. There would
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be no more bank money. There would only be United
States sovereign money, and banks would not be able to
create money out of thin air. Gotchah, that's it. Like
I said, I could ramble for for a long time.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
No, I hear it.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It sounds like it's something that you're very passionate about,
and probably more people need to pay attention. But there
seems to be a lot of nuance, goodness, nuance and
complexities to it that people are going to have to
do their homework.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
And sometimes that doesn't it doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
So it's worth it though, because we all are so
dependent on money, and money is based on trust. Yeah,
and uh, you know we as a society can control it.
So again, thanks so much for what the platform you're providing.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Not a problem, Tommy. You have a great weekend.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Okay you too?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
All right? Mark the poet, Mark, how are you this morning?
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Doing just fine? Exact? Today's poem is dedicated to everyone
who aspires to do something new and exciting in their life.
All right back in two Back in two thousand and eight,
I attended the bodybuilding competition and I came home and
had a conversation with my wife, and then I wrote
this poem. It is one one minute and ten seconds long.
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It's rated G, and it's called Aspiring to work as
a male model. The Arnold Classic came to town with
bodybuilders of renown. Those fab physiques left me inspired. Perhaps
I too have what's required. I'll bulk up here and
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slim down there. Then I can model underwear. A model's
work is not so tough, I said, and stripped down
to the buff. The mirror helped me to reflect. I
saw two spots I must correct. My abs need work.
I've got to cut before I take the stage and strut.
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The second issue that I find my pecks. They must
be more defined. I hid these spots with my two
hands and asked my wife to grade my plans. Yeah.
I watched her pause and contemplate her careful thoughts would
carry weight, she said, male models face demands. I think
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you're going to need more hands the end.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Hello, Yes, I got you, Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I had a problem with my mike for a second.
Good job, Marques per usual. I have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, all right you two, Zachly, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
All right, six a WTV and we'll get Pete and
Tom and we get back. Good morning Columbus, Good morning, Ohio.
It is nice to be here talking to you.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And uh what second?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Here as God as my witness, I thought turkeys could.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Flash the famous episode from WKRP at Cincinnati, the call Holiday. Yeah,
those call letters are doubted, uh North Carolina. They are
actually coming to Cincinnati from North Carolina. Can't tell you when,
can't tell you exactly by whom or how it was done.
(27:11):
But the manager in uh, let's see Raleigh, North Carolina
said that the famous w k RP letters are coming
to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And the Turkey Drop episode had to be just in
television history, one of the best things I've ever seen
in my life. And I watched it I don't know
how many times over the years, especially since the Internet.
But really cool that WKRP those call letters are coming
to coming to Cincinnati, Cincinnati officially or Cincinnatalie Cincinnatalie.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
That's that'd be a great screen name if my name
was Natalie and I lived in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I dated a girl named Natalie from Cincinnati, so I
get them confused a lot.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I did not date a girl from Cincinnati before. Okay, five, Tom,
how are you?
Speaker 8 (28:06):
I'm good?
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Are you good?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Good?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (28:09):
I remember that w k R P two that was
pretty good. Uh, but I'm glad to here's the Uh,
some of the callers are starting to push back on
the Trump regime, you know, like we like to call
these other governments regimes. Uh, Michael, the only thing I
would agree disagree with you on is that the stuff
(28:32):
started way before nine to eleven. But uh, yeah, we've
been going in having coups on this country and taking
over that country. And do you ever listen to Trump
when he's on TV. My god, he's he's he's got dementia.
He's just as the only difference between him and Biden
(28:53):
is Biden sent back and ate ice cream. He wasn't
taken over all these other countries.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Look, I again, people get mad at me because I
have a massive problem with our foreign policy.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
And we have.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I mean, we back Pinche and Chili, we we back
Norwega and pan them all for a long time before
we took him out. I mean I could cover Ford
all the way to George W. Bush that we monetarily
fightded and sometimes with arms. The Indonesian invasion and colonization
of East Timore that killed one hundred and eighty five
to two hundred and eighty thousand people. So we have
(29:30):
done our American our foreign policy is atrocious in a
lot of ways. And that that goes across all parties,
Democrat or Republican, and you know, and then they.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Can't people just can't seem to understand why Iran calls
us the Great Saintan.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
That that's also a different. Iran's a little bit different.
I mean we did do we get our regime change
in Iran back in the fifties when we installed the
Shaw of Iran and put them under a secular dictatorship
for twenty six years, but.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
That whole problems.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, the regime now is and with a lot of
people in the Middle East, it's a it's an ideology
and there's different variations of it. The Sudis and she
is and what they fight over the interpretations of the
Koran and this and that. But it's it's not easy
to fight there, to put it, to put it mildly,
But as far as American or a policy, I can't
(30:32):
disagree with you.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Well, Immerves Russia Putin was forced into that mass. Watch
Ukraine Burning. It's a one hour documentary on what's been
going on in Ukraine the after Victoria Neulan and John
(30:56):
McCain went in there and overthrew the government and installed
a gay comedian, gay porno comedian, which is Zelensky Zilansky. Yeah,
I look it up. He was he did gay porn
and he's a comedian.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, I mean, both of those things are funny, depending
on your outlook. Tom very much appreciate your comps.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So you had to wait on.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I've tried to get through all the callers as quick
as I can before the show's Pete, how are you
this morning?
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Hey, good morning. Thanks for doing the show at Easter
you too. You know, I'm a little thank you. I'm
a little tired of the conspiracy theories. I mean, I yes,
our foreign policy hasn't been the greatest.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
But.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
About I think nineteen eighty seven, Donald Trump was on
the Oprah Show talking about how evil Iran is.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I've seen yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Shortly after, right after ninety eleven happened the number one
person in our military, five star General Norman Schwartzkof was
on National TV saying, calling those terrorist bastards for what
they did. So you know all of this conspiracy, you know,
(32:24):
talk and how the the government knew about all this
inside job, et cetera, et cetera. No, I'm it's I don't.
Let's just look at you know, some some facts, some
videos and another one Benjamin Netanyahu, at least ten years ago,
(32:46):
I saw where he clearly had a chart of how
close Irans was too well excuse me, at that time
it was it wasn't as close as they are now.
But you know, he was very concerned about how close
they were to developing a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
So you there's clips of that for back in nineteen
ninety five of Netnall who's saying that the problem with
this isn't open force. So I let people talk as
much as they as they want, even if I disagree.
The problem with trying to debate people who are are
conspiracy theorists is that there's when there's no evidence, there's
(33:26):
nothing to argue, there's nothing to debate, and then if
somebody believes something that is a conspiracy and you ask
for evidence, then the conspiracy gets.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Bigger and bigger and bigger with no evidence. So it's
just a never ending circular argument that goes nowhere.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
But okay, understood, understood, what your point. But you know,
you know, you've got people who are saying, you know,
what is Israel supposed to do? I mean, they've got
they're surrounded by people who want to kill them, who
who stated that they want to, you know, wipe them
off the face of the earth, and and and and
and you know, for for people to suggest that that
(34:04):
Net and Yahoo that he has other motives besides defending
his people, I mean, do they forget about what happened
on October the seventh. So it's you know, it's very
easy for people in our country who live, you know,
who are not surrounded by people who want to kill them,
just to to spout all these consipiracy theories. But you know,
(34:25):
and in this last caller you just said, and he
just said about how Iran calls this the great Satan? Well, hello,
what do you call Iran? They're the number one state
sponsored world terrorism.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (34:38):
There, Iran is the Great Satan.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
I just.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
I don't know if I Yeah, people just have anti
Trump political feelings, so they think that you know, they're
trying to write the cotails of anything that Trump does.
They're against. It's just getting old. I mean, let's try
to put yourself in there in the shoes of the
Israeli people.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I've always been in favor of Israel at the very
least should have the ability to defend themselves. I mean,
the well Israel, if you go back this far, then
Israelis weren't there, that the Jewish people weren't there, and
then they got kicked out.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
They're there now, they're there. They're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
So the idea there are countries at terrorist groups who
stated goals wants to want to wipe out Israel and
the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And I don't mind helping pay for the Iron Dome
and you know, things like that.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
But again, it's really hard to get into all the intricacies,
and Pete, I appreciate you calling it. It's hard to
get into all the intricacies and things because conspiracy theories
are just varied, very difficult to debate. All right, stick
around for auto smarts. This is Zachary Schwartz on six
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