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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For a sunball in that two run in and they
may not have scored. All right, We've got Will Fleming
with us right now, friend of well, friend of mine
and friend of I'm going to say you're a friend
of the station. Will Will Fleming, radio voice of the
Boston Red Sox with us right now, Schaeffer and Sliwa
San Diego Sports seven sixty. We're just talking about it
from a Padre perspective, obviously, where you're just looking for
anything to go right right now?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What was it like today for Boston?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I mean, five consecutive losses, getting home basically needing a win.
That's crazy to say six games into the season, but
this obviously had to be as early as it is.
This was kind of like gott to play well at home, right,
and that's what the Red Sox were able to do
here today.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
First of all, where the hell is Jim? You told
me I was going on with Jim, and now I
come on and there's some note new dude. Wait, I
didn't tell you this the ultimate duke job?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I don't know the new dude either, but we'll keep
you posted. I'm not sure who he is. That is
that Alan not very good.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
This is what's up. Well, very nice to meet you, brother,
Very nice to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
By the way, we had your brother on earlier this week.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh god, so you get the worst of the two finally, right.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
No, that's not true, that's not true. We'd like to
do actually, a whole family. We like to get the
whole family. Can we get your kids on?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
We can do it. They'll be a Fenway tomorrow. But
great to be with you, John, I always always love
coming on and nice to meet you Allen. To answer
your question one hundred percent, I mean it. They the
Red Sox needed this in the worst possible way. And
I you know what's crazy is baseball. It's the stupidest, best,
most fun, weird, random game of all which is why
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I'm so delighted to be a part of it early
in these years, in these seasons, you can get so
up or so down and it means so very little,
And it's amazing what one game, one series, one week
can do to your mood. You know, I don't know
if either of you have ever been to Fenway Park
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and when you've been there on opening day, but it
is I mean, we go to all these places and
I know pet Coo rightly gets voted the best ballpark
in America, and there's so many things about it that
are marvelous and wonderful, and every one of your fans
is lucky to go there, and everybody who plays there
is delighted to be there. Fenway is the best place,
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full stop, end of story, Like there just aren't better places.
And when you layer on an opening day, when we're
honoring you know, legends pasted and you're lining the baselines
and the big flag is up on the monster, I
think the Red Sox players really fed off that juice.
And you know, you have to remember that they last
year had one memorable moment after another in that park,
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and I think a lot of the players, old and
news sort of fed off the energy and got a
much needed win on a day Like you said just now, John,
I mean, the padres had very little going where it
not for the sunshine in midday, but the Red Sox
desperately needed that one big time.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Will Fleming, who does play by play broadcaster for ESPN
the Boston Red Sox and also on WEEI, I joined
us here on the Shaffer and sleiwas show. You know,
it's funny because You're right about the overreaction. I can
only imagine what it was like in Boston over this
first week and sports talk radio all that stuff. I
can only imagine what that was. You know, We're sitting
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here and it's been really bad. Baseball in San Diego
just hasn't looked good. And Padre's obviously already had their
homestand lose to a three to Detroit, lose to a
three to the San Francisco Giants, who, by the way,
walked in here also zero to three and had one
run over three games against the Yankees. They had a
game that their final game against the Giants, Mason Miller
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had a four out save. And it was funny because
we were sitting here overreacting and we're talking to ourselves like, yes,
it's early, Yes, the world's not gonna end if they
get off to a bad start.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I guess it just depends on how much talent that
you have.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
But Craig Stammon made a decision that Yep, I'm gonna
go four outs on Mason Miller. Are games like that
even in Boston. Like I know, you said, don't overreact
because it's so early, but do you feel a sense
of urgency when your squad is off them. You guys
are in one of the tougher divisions in all of baseball?
Is there a sense of urgency? You just don't want
to dig yourself such a hole.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, Alan, I think he made the last point. You
went very long there. There's a lot to unpack that.
That's a little bit of a long by way. Yeah,
but I would just tell you that the last point
you made is the right one, which is the Red
Sox and the Padres both face the same problem. That
both divisions are great, and you know, the behemoth that
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is the Dodgers is its own thing, right, But I mean,
the Red Sox are in a division with the Yankees,
the Blue Jays, the ascendant Orioles, and the always annoying
Tampa Bay Ray And so you're right that it's early,
but you don't. I mean, the Red Sox came into
their home opener four games behind the New York Yankees,
who won again today, and so I think that puts
a little extra pressure on it. I'm fascinated by everything
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that's going on in San Diego. And you know, I
know Craig Stammon. He was a wonderful guy. And pitcher
with the with the Nats, and AJ is never afraid
to take chances and wheel and deal and take a
chance on a new manager, which he did. I would
offer that it's a little early to be doing stuff
like that with your most important bulten arm. I know
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you want to get a win, but I was, especially
after the WBC, I think that's a little premature to
start pushing the envelope for the guy who is so
important to everything you do. I think the Padres are
one of the really fascinating teams in the game because
of what AJ has done and what he's built, and
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they especially with the lockout potentially looming, like the amount
of money that they have on the books, all of
these three hundred million dollar contracts, Like I understand why
AJ pushes his chips in and why he takes risks
and why he's willing to trade everybody because you know,
unlike Boston, the fans here are furious because the Red
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Sox haven't won a title in eight years, but they
won four in the previous fifteen. It's a different thing
in San Diego, where you're just dying to get there
and to win one, and they went all in and
I think that the risk, of course is that you
have aging players on massive contracts. Most of the time
those do not age or end well. So I think
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the pressure is totally different and ratcheted up. Where you
guys live.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Will Fleming, radio broadcaster for the Boston Red Sex with
us right now, Shaffer and Sleeve with San Diego Sports
seven sixty. You go back. I'm sure to remember craigstan
was a player when you were. Was he a player
in Potomac in like two thousand and whatever?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
He was? Didn't that crazy? When you and I were
in like a trailer that was latched to chain link
fences in Lynchburg and Ptomach and you were in Lehigh
Valley by the I mean, like, isn't that amazing? We're
all way too old. We know everybody in the game
because we're becoming the people who are just like the geriatrics.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Here's my question for you, because you as a first
time manager, I mean, look at what's playing out with
the Giants. Tony Vittello first time manager, and now he
didn't hire himself like Aj Peller hires Craig Stamon. Obviously
the Giants do what they do with the you know,
Tennessee head coach that's turned out a major league manager.
But you're kind of asking for the additional scrutiny, aren't you.
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Like when you start nobody likes starting two and five regardless,
but when you start two and five with the first
time manager, it just feels like these clubs are really
open to scrutiny. Right now, there's been a ton of
scrutiny on Craig Stammon, But it's kind of unfair, isn't it.
I mean, he's it's only been one week. I mean,
you go five and two or two, and it doesn't make.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I mean no doubt. And I think both Buster and
AJ certainly are are self confident enough to not give
a rats ask about whether there's scrutiny in the first
week or month or even season right like now they
do put their own, you know, seasons and not in
AJ's case, but certainly Buster in terms of like first
real time as an executive, like your your sort of
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credibility as someone who can identify talent and hire. But
I mean, again, those guys have such track records, and
by the way, I think it's worth saying that, like
it's just as risky in my mind, if not as
boring and uninspired to just say, well, let's go pick
these other dudes who've managed for fifteen years in the
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big leagues and write the safe press release and bring
in insert name, and some of them have managed there
in the recent past. I mean, like that's just the
god done his truth is. And not to pick on
somebody like Bob Melvin, but like that's such an easy
hire to make. Everybody's gonna say, of course, he's seasoned
and he's great, and he'll be the right guy for this.
I actually sort of applaud the guys in those big chairs,
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in those big roles who take swings and try to,
you know, catch lightning in a bottle. But there's no
question John that you definitely invite a little more risk
and scrutiny and it's just way too early to tell
how either of those situations will shake out.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, just a big picture question here.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You know you mentioned aj we What is the what
is the perception of AJ Preller? You think across the league?
How do you think people view AJ Preller? And like
you mentioned, he's definitely a gambler. He's taken chances. Padres
are in a need to win right now because of
aging superstars.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What do you think the perception is a preller, Well, if.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You need to pick up basketball game, he's the guy
to call and he's going to find you a court
and you're gonna be able to rock and roll. I
think I think AJ is really well liked in the sport,
and I think every situation, every organization is different. I
do not run a big league baseball team. I only
talk about them, and thank God, probably for the fans
of everybody in the world, that I don't have that
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power and that ability. I think the impression of AJ
is that he's willing to do anything right and that
he is Yeah, he's risk, he's just so he's not
even risk tolerant. He almost invites it. And I think
that the I think baseball seasons go through these periods.
They are the off season, they're the first half, then
there's the All Star break, and I think in the
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off season and at the All Star break, a lot
of fans around baseball envy San Diego for having somebody
like AJ who's willing to go the extra mile sign
free agency's willing to ship out anybody that is not
bolted down to go get proven talent, and I think
there's a little Dave Dombrowski in him in that way
where you know, the odds say that most of your
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prospects don't pan out, Let's ship him out and come
bring proven ability back. Now, obviously when you do that,
you run the risk of big misses. And is it
possible that is it certain now that the decision to
bring one so too in which we understand you think
you're going to win the World Series and then you
lose them and you trade everything away to the Washington
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Nationals and some of their core players could have been
foundational pieces for the padres they're in lies the risk
of being a guy who's just willing to deal everybody.
So I you know, I think fans want action, fans
want headline moves, and I am, by the way, for
the record, I find myself oftentimes thinking that the modern GM,
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you know, like the more analytically driven guy, is too
hesitant and too reluctant, and everybody has the same numbers
and information and they won't make deals. I find it
really refreshing that Aj does what he does, and I
think there's probably like a marginal competitive edge to be
willing to have more courage to go the extra mile
and trade guys, and I think that there is space
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for that, and of course, again back to the beginning,
the problem is when you do that, which I love
and your fan base should love, you need to win
it all. Yeah, And I know they've been so close
and some of those Dodgers series have been agonizing, and
I think it's sort of like so many times in
sports history, like the Washington Capitals couldn't beat the Pittsburgh
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Penguins for one hundred years, they beat them, and guess
what happens the rest of it? They just walk to
the championship. I think the Padres sort of slayed the
dragon one of those times, and they were every bit
as good in a couple of those seasons. They would
have won a World Series, but they didn't, And so
that it just adds this layer of pressure and stress
to the fan base and the players and everybody there.
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But I think AJ's very well liked in the sport
and he does the best that he can to try
to get this franchise the title will.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Love the perspective. Appreciate you doing it. If you didn't
mention Marcella Meyer being from San Diego, in your home
run call.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Shame on you. If you had that, called it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I want to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I love it, will appreciate it, dude.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Thank you Will, Thanks shame Nice to meet you all.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
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