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I felt like we went through a stage a baseball
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Of shape, Prince Sliwa on this Wednesday afternoon, reacting to
a Padre series win in Pittsburgh. We're also giving away
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our Padres insider Kevin I see with us from Pittsburgh
and we started the conversation by asking Kevin about the

(02:12):
six and six start and his thoughts about the first
twelve games overall.

Speaker 8 (02:16):
Well, yeah, we did talk about it. I did think
about that today finally got something right. But also after
starting two and four with the way that the offense
progressed on this trip, the way the offense came through
in the way that it said it would, you know,
even when they were two and four and hitting you know,
one ninety seven, but they said that heck, before that one,

(02:38):
they were hitting one eighty two, because they did actually
kind of break out the last game of the homestand
so yeah, and then to you know, come on this
trip continue. Look, those Pittsburgh starters are good, man, And
I thought it was a you know, it was it
was an excellent.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
Trip, Kevin, stay on Michael King here for a quick
second to as we kind of look at what he's
done so far this year in his three starts, and
just how encouraging is it to see that he could
potentially be the player that the Podres are obviously hoping for.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, he's not the ace technically at the moment.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
It's Nick Povetta, But just just how big do you
think these three starts have been?

Speaker 8 (03:18):
You know, I absolutely agree, like like he's not happy
with him and and gush, if you're as talented as
him and you're making the money that he is and
you want to be that guy, then he shouldn't be.
But but I thought that they were really encouraging, Like
every one of them had their encouraging moments, you know,
based on gush were able to get up to ninety
five pitches and what he did today, and I'm sure

(03:40):
that I didn't even have the He addressed it a
little bit, but I didn't have the heart to like
press him on it because I've talked him about it
so many times. One of the traits of an ace
type pitcher is to not have your best stuff, to
be behind to you know, be wondering where is it
and you can't fix it in the middle of the game,
and you still battle through. I realized he wasn't facing

(04:02):
the twenty seven Yankees or even the you know two
twenty six Yankees. But like I'm telling you, if you
watch these games, the Pirates put together good at bets
and Michael did not have it for half of his
start today. And the guy threw six scoreless innings before
you know, going back out there in the seventh and
giving up two hits and then the runs scored. I mean,

(04:23):
that was a grindy, impressive start.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Yeah, I guess an offense that to start the year,
you know Pittsburgh's you know, had a pretty good offense
obviously the first two weeks of the year. Kevin Acis
are Padres insaider. He's with us right now on Schaeffer
and Sliwa. I remember you wrote in March about the
plan to rest Manny Machato more. But I remember we
had a conversation about this. It's like, it's one thing
to have that as a plan, but it's like the
Mike Tyson line. It's like everyone's got a plan until

(04:48):
they get punched, so to speak. But credit to the
Pondres organization and Craig Stammin and even Machado because last
year you know better than me, right, it took like
one hundred and fifty games for him to get a
scheduled off day. Today he gets it in the twelve
game of the year. What does that signify? And how
often would you expect him? Like is it monthly? Is
it every couple of weeks or how many scheduled off

(05:08):
days do you think they're going to put in there
for him this year?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well?

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Yeah, I'm not surprised at all, because you know, I said,
this is who Craig Stanmon is, Like, this is one
example of why he was hired not only relationship with Manny,
but you know, somebody could walk in off the street.
Craig is very gonna Craig's going to do what he
thinks right for the team and that he thinks is right.
And there was no doubt. But yeah, the reason there
would have been doubt in people's mind is, hey, this

(05:33):
is many machado. Man Manchada played one hundred and fifty
games before a day off last year because of many machata,
like and if you read the story that I wrote
in the spring, I mean the quotes in there lead
no doubt that like that's like a man thing for him.
That's like, that's like who he is. And the stats,
the fact that he's played in more games than anyone
else since twenty fifteen will tell you that unless Paul

(05:55):
Moushman plays tonight, then they'll be tied. But like, it
is remarkable what Manny does. But there was really no
doubt they were going to do this. That's for how
often I think this might be a signal. I'm not
saying every twelve games. I'm not even saying there's a prescription.
But it got out of hand last year there's no
way they wanted to go one hundred and fifty games

(06:16):
without him resting. But at some point then the offense
was struggling. They were struggling. They wanted to, you know,
get a playoffs spot, they were chasing the Dodgers, and
so what mid September and it was like both Manny
and Mike Shild determined he couldn't sit, and so they
got to get ahead of it this year. So in
case they're in that situation again where Manny does need
to play forty to fifty games in a row, he has.

(06:40):
He's not already tired. He should have had days off earlier.
Mike Shield did a pretty good job managing the different
parts of his roster. That was one. Hey, no one's perfect.
That got away from him last.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
Year, Kevin, Is that tough for somebody like Craig Stamon
or any of these young managers who are looking at
such a veteran Let's hypothetically so, Manny Machado says, no,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I don't want to sit this early in the season.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
I'm good to go, I'm healthy, I'm feeling fine. How
tough is that to get one of your stars and
to paint that big picture of look for the you're
actually doing this because it could potentially help us down
the road. Is that a tough position that the manager's
in and how often does that interaction happen with the players?

Speaker 8 (07:22):
I think it's really tough. I mean there's a reason,
you know, certain players haven't moved down in lineups here
with the past couple managers. There's you know, there's we'll
see when Craig gets to you know, people are struggling,
certain names are struggling. What he does there in terms
of you know, we we're already talking about his lineups.
Didn't he get drastic? But like I doubt, I don't

(07:43):
have any doubt that he will. But that's a really
it's the biggest part of the job handling these guys.
And I've talked about it with you guys before and
in a lot of places because they know that the
media and fans we get all caught up in game
management and there's not a manager out there who's managed
in the past, saying ten years or so, and probably
guys before that, but that wouldn't tell you managing end

(08:06):
game strategy decisions is no more than twenty percent of
a job. This other stuff is the eighty percent, and
it only is getting more as managers have less power
in some organizations sway and as players look, let's be honest,
right enough to sound like an old man, but you
know these kids have changed. And then you've got a
veteran like Manny Machado who's like, who does Let's have

(08:43):
the argument of Hey, this is how I've played, and
this is how I've succeeded. I'm better when I play,
and so it is a strong personality. But I said
this from the day Greg Samuel was hired. You know,
I covered him for eight years and I said, yeah,
I was surprised, but I don't know what kind of
manager's going to be. But he's got the personality and

(09:04):
he's got the sway over players, including Manny Matchada. And
when Craig Stanna was a middle reliever on this team,
Manny Machado listened to Craig Stanmon on things.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
Really good insight from Kevin Acier podcas Insider with us
right now on Schaeffer and Sliwa It's funny I posted
something about where we started, like, hey, six and six,
that's kind of what you're asking for. I think it's
a good enough start, and it's social media, so take
it for whatever it's worth.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
But one of the.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Immediate replies was, well, they can't they can't hate good pitching,
so they can't win the World Series. I'm like, well,
first of all, that's the World Series is seven months,
so relax.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Second, but to the general you might.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Take down your post. You're right y, the World Series
take it.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Is over, You're right.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
But to the general point, I mean, he may be
onto something in terms of look at what they've done
against Skeens, scooble Valdez, shoot, even Mitch Keller here today.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Would you call that a concern?

Speaker 6 (09:56):
The fact that this lineup, with this investment, with the
piece as they have in it consistently hasn't good hasn't
hit consistently good pitching.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
Okay, so you know, to be fair to people on
social media too, it doesn't leave room for us to
get context from them either, right Like where like has
had that person said hey, you know, we probably should
keep an eye out down the road for how these
guys do against top starters, I would say, amen, brother
or sister, I would absolutely agree with that that that

(10:30):
is something to watch out to say, that right now
is like, uh but yeah, today was they played ten games,
the seventh quality start against them, and I can't remember
how many of them not just quality starts, but like
shut out six innings or whatever, and so yeah. But
also bramber Belt does I think has allowed two runs

(10:52):
in his three starts? Right? Eric Scooble's pretty good, Paul's
games is pretty good, Bubba Tandler's pretty good. Mitch Keller
can be very good. Look at his career. Yes he
can get pummeled, but he also has plenty of starts
like this, Like, uh, Sonny Grave is pretty good. You know,
I know Landing Group got shelled by the mess, but

(11:13):
he's okay. Logan Web's pretty good. Like they they have
really been you know, they've been under it here now. Hey,
absolutely a valid concern, man, Like I mean, I've written
about it. You guys probably spent a lot of time
talking about it. This is absolutely something to keep an
eye on. They wanted coming into the season to do
better against starting pitching. It was a few days before

(11:35):
the season I wrote about it that they don't want
to have to always take a time through the you know,
through the order. Well, but also in that story, it
was pointed out how they were going to start the
season and get some really good pitchers, So hey, maybe
that's it. And then also great Stanmond's been very upfront.
I've got some good stuff from tomorrow's newsletter from Nick Cassianus,
who's been a part of this whole uh, you know,

(11:57):
switch in and mixing and match. But Graig's been pretty
much one about we're using this first part of the
year to figure out our lineup and to figure out
where the pieces fit. And so let's les, let's just
slow it down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Kevin, We'll find a one for me.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
Looking at your article yesterday in the UTI, great article
on Joe Muskgrove and just kind of where he's at
based off of your interaction with him, and I'm sure
for Joe and for a lot of Padre fans surprised
how he's still dealing with the issues that he's dealing with.
Can the Padres do you think depend on Joe Muskgrove

(12:37):
at any point over these next couple of months or
is this kind of a wait and see.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Depend that's a key word right there. Can they depend
on him? And I want to be careful because I
know how people react. And and you know what, I
would say, by the strictest term of can they depend No,
And I based that on talking with people and being like, so,
what's up, Well, don't know, I don't know, just going
to see every day to day and so like. And

(13:04):
the fact is he's only played catch. And the fact
is Joe's done pretty upfront about this, And so do
they anticipate that in the next couple months he's going
to pitch for them? Yes, but can they depend on it?
Is it really front of mind for them right now? No?
It is not one thing I do want to say. Ah,
anyone that questions Joe musk Grove's dedication or his desire

(13:29):
and how hard he works, like this guy has worked
too hard in the past to come back from insane injuries.
He pitched through his arm could have given at it
any point. In twenty twenty four, he pitched through pain.
That makes twenty starts, including some pretty damn good ones
at the end of the season. Help the butter is
getting the playoffs in twenty four Like, Ah, it's not

(13:51):
my job to defend players, but it is my job
to sort of set the record straight. And if there
was someone I was going to defend it would be
Joe musk growth and it's like insane. It's like insanity
to suggest that Joe Musgrove like it doesn't want to
get out there or is it working hard enough or whatever.
That's just like, yeah, I can't even put it into words.

(14:12):
And that's bad because I'm supposed to be able to
put things in the works that I'm like that to
me is mind. It means you have not been.

Speaker 6 (14:20):
Paying attention completely agree and remarkably in doing this sports
talk as long as we've done it, not not Schaeffer
and Sliwa, but as long as we do sports so
I keeach it every day. That's never even been broached with, Like,
I don't even cross mind. I don't even if someone
were to text that, and I won't even entertain that.
That's the most ridiculous. I mean, that's so utterly insane

(14:41):
to think about a with a professional athlete and be
with someone of the caliber of Joe Musgrove. Kevin travels safely,
we will catch up with you back in San Diego,
all right, And just like that, Kevin, I c R.
Padre's Insider with us earlier on Schaeffer and Sliwa, we'll
take a time out. We'll continue the converse on some
of these young managers right now in baseball, including Craig Stamon,

(15:04):
Tony Vittello in San Francisco, young coaches across sports as well,
and the differences between someone like the previous manager.

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and we'll do that coming up later this hour. So
here's the one conversation we will not escape this year.
Would be my guest this Padres baseball season is we
will consistently be time Mike Shilt to Craig Stalmon and
vice versa. Right, Shilt did this, Stamon did that? Salmon's
better here, Shilt's better there?

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Right? I mean, that's it's odd.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Stiles records about three game losing streak, three game winning streak, yep.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
With the media, this, that, and the other. We've also
spent some time over the seven days in the history
of the show talking about the Giants manager Tony Vitella,
who's also a young manager like Craig Stalmmon. He drew
recent criticism because he acknowledged the media that his team
has had three clubhouse incidents in their first ten games

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behind closed doors, something that would be rarely discussed.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Interesting average, right, basically.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Every third game they've had a clubhouse incident. So I
don't really know where to go with it other than
to say that every manager's gonna be different, maybe regardless
of age. Like you could have gone from Mike Shilt
to Bob Melvin, and I would compare the differences between
Shilt and Melvin. But I think it's easier to go
down that path when you go from a veteran manager

(17:00):
or coach, like in a sport like the NBA, to
a young manager or coach. And I think by and large,
these younger managers or coaches are probably under like more
of a microscope.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Anybody, not anybody unproven, is going to get this criticism.
You know, you'll be very you'll be hesitant to give praise,
You'll be quick to jump and say.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Why do you do that?

Speaker 7 (17:22):
Yes, that's right, whether a good example or not. But
earlier today Podreys beat the Pittsburgh Pirates. Michael King comes
back out in the seventh inning, and I instantly say
to myself, wait, why are you bringing him back in?
He went six solid innings, he gives up, ends up
getting two guys on. They bring him out and Kyle
Hart ends up giving up, giving up a couple of runs.

(17:44):
But just the instant, if Mike Shild did that, I'm
going to have less hesitation, or I'm going to have
less criticism because I'm gonna say it's Mike Shild, He's
been there, he's done that a couple of playoff appearances,
was in Saint Louis, more experience. But if it's Craig
Stammon that does it, why aren't you putting Mason Miller
in for a four out save early in the season,

(18:04):
like we're just going to question things a lot earlier,
or because it's Craig Stammon.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
Stylistically, you mentioned the manager of the Giants I don't
know Stylistically, the younger blood is going to be more
honest with the media. I don't know if they're gonna
their relationship is gonna be different with the players, but
it makes sense. Like I've heard Sean McVay say things
where I'm like, wow, that was pretty blunt.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yep, I've heard.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
JJ Reddick say things I'm like, damn, that's pretty.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
And I'm just giving examples of the young coaches, right
and the dust stuff that they were having in San Francisco.
Is this guy gonna learn in three months to say, yeah,
I'm probably gonna keep that in house. And Craig Stammon
is he's a good example of is certain things gonna happen?
You mentioned he was gave Machado the day off today
and is like, yes, old.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
He's old.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
I mean exactly that, But that's how it felt.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Stylistically, I do think the styles are going to be
different for somebody that's more old school and somebody that's
more young school.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Do you think that also, though?

Speaker 6 (19:09):
You know how like with generations, we all think like
the younger generation doesn't do it as well as yours. Yeah,
you know, like our parents would say something about our
generation and our generation says something about the younger generation.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
We're all going to do that.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
And I do think there's something in it with managers
and coaches, because when you have this, like I'll give
an example, it's a lot of back. A lot of
people push back at like the Analytical Baseball GM like.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Oh, they're just hiring some thirty two year old out
of Harvard. He never played a day in his life.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Now again, that narrative has changed, like post moneyball, like
everything is analytically driven in sports. You don't have to
have played baseball to know how to master a baseball roster.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
There's a lot of smart people that have also said, no,
I think this is a better methodology.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Yeah, exactly, but it is it just because we seem
to question those that are younger more so than elders.
You know, it's like there's always a problem with the younger generation.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I do it.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
I'm like, oh, people don't work today like they did
when I came out of college. I don't even think
that's true, honestly, but I think I think it's true.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
If that makes sense, it does make sense.

Speaker 7 (20:18):
The only thing I'll stop on Craig's stamin on I
think that the Podres are in a unique spot because
if they hadn't made the playoffs four years in a row,
and you weren't walking into expectations and.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
You're in a win now mode.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
Now, you can define win now anyway that you want,
but the contracts they have, the aging of some of
these players, they're in a win now mode. Whether they
like it or they don't, they're in a win down
mode and they're going to be in this mode for
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
We had somebody that.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
Hit us up on YouTube last week and he said
that why would you hire a rookie manager that doesn't
have the managerial experience when you're in a win now mode?

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Right right?

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yeah, Yeah, that's gonna be with him all season long.
And I don't think that has anything to do with well,
when I was younger. True, you know, my the music
I listened to in my generation is better than the
music you listen to, exactly if everybody's has that kind
of nostalgia with growing up and everything else.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
But I don't think with Stammon, I don't think it
has anything to do with that.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
I agree with you. I tend to agree with that.
Craig Stamon might be.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Here's the thing with anything, you need to allow it
to cook or like bake.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
We want to.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Say, oh, they traded lud of Reese, you lost the trade,
or they traded Mason Miller they lost the trade.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
You don't. Yeah, we don't give it time.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
Oh those are yeah, those I mean you're gonna give
it to You're still trying to figure out the Wan
Soto tray.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, it takes years to figure out.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
But everyone wants immediacly. It's like everyone wants to say
trading Luca is the worst trade in NBA history. It
probably was, but I mean it's like you it's like
you have to react immediately and you have to have
a strong opinion on it, or it's like you didn't
react at all.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You know, it's funny, there was.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
A that that one is is so unique for so
many different ways. But let me let me give you
an example. Tonight, you said Shay's going back to play
the Clippers, its former team, right when Paul George got
traded to the Clippers, and there was you know, there
was some real reasoning behind that. Hey, we can't get
Kawhi to sign unless PG gets traded. That trade that

(22:29):
they made for Paul George was Shaygil just Alexander is
about to be a two time m v P and
could be a two time champion. A pick that ended
up being Jalen Williams. And there's a lot of other
picks that are like sprinkled in there. So there are
some that but at the time, no one was saying,

(22:50):
don't trade for Paul.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
George, trade away. Nobody knw who he was.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
You're gonna You're gonna put yourself in the championship class
years Clippers have never won a championship.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Go all in it.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
It took three four years to be like, hey, this
is looking really really bad and the thunder warn't good
for a number of years.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Either, right, but they have been so few.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
But you said the bake thing with Craig Stanmon, I
think as we go back to it, we just but
we just live in a world where, honestly, it's almost
impossible for things to beke.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
I completely agree. How good of a year could it
be for Mason Miller? He works another schooreless inning. He
didn't earn a save today, but worked a schooreless inning. Yeah,
he's had an amazing start to his year.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
How good of a year?

Speaker 6 (23:32):
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made me aware, this is Shaeffer and Sliwa. You made
me aware of a recent tweet from Buster Only about
Mason Miller.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Right, here's what he said.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
All right, so we know, but we know Mason Miller
just balling out to start the season. Mason Miller eighteen
batters face this year, one hit aloud, thirteen strikeouts. He says,
it's been a long time since a reliever won the
Cy Young Award. Wow, by the way, you're hearing that

(25:30):
that that's come up way too much already to start
the season.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
You're saying it's too early to even broach it. It's
Mason Miller.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
It's basically how absurd Mason Miller is that you've been
hearing this now for like I know, I'll listen to
other podcasts things like that, and it's like, I'm not
even downplaying what Mason Miller's done. The point I'm trying
to make is that's how good Mason Miller is, you're
not two weeks into the season and people are well,

(26:01):
I mean, you just gotta look at him for Cy Young.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Who had the hit off them, It's almost I'm almost surprised.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
What do you mean, he's a lot of hit can't
win a synge. Actually, remember I can't remember who was.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
I just pulled up a game log.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
It was April first against the Giants when he had
the four out save, he allowed a hit to whom
I don't know, but I mean it's interesting. So the
last reliever to win a sy young guys was who
Eric Yeah, so that was a He had a one
two ERA with fifty five saves. Now, listen, there's precedent here,

(26:34):
Mark Davis eighty nine, forty four saves, Steve Paderosian with
the Phillies eighty seven. Then there's been relievers, right, Dennis
Ackersley has done it, But two thousand and three is
a long.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Time since Ganya.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
It's kind of like some of these, like like the Heisman,
like maybe back in the day running backs could win it,
but then they moved away and it was all quarterbacks,
just like awards kind of changed their complexion. I mean,
is it possible, Yeah, if he pitches like this all
year as possible.

Speaker 7 (26:59):
Why I think this is what it will come down to,
and this is what it should come down to.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
If the Padres ball out this year.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
And Mason Miller is just nails in the ninth inning,
but it also led to a lot of wins. What
I don't want to see is you can't have a
squad go eighty one and eighty one and and Mason
Miller is amazing, probably didn't get as many opportunities as
you were hoping for. I think what it's going to

(27:28):
come down to, And again, this is absurd to be
having this conversation two weeks in, but I think what
it would come down to is has the team put
him in a position to where he can be as
great as he is, Because it just depends on the
squad that you play for. It depends on how many
wins that you get. I love seeing any of these

(27:49):
individual awards. I love it when it primarily is credited
towards a player that's on a really successful team, because
at the end of the day, that's what should be
be built around. The question is going to be how
many opportunities is Mason Miller are gonna get.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Here's the other thing. Now, his career has been short.
I mean, he's a young player. He's only played for
parts of three years heading into this year. But he's
never appeared in more than sixty games in a year.
So let's say they were to follow that path and
he appeared in sixty games.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Now, was that more of an A's issue?

Speaker 6 (28:22):
You know, I don't know, because the year in which
he appeared in sixty games was last year, thirty eight
with the A's twenty two with the Padres that was
in you know, a third of a season. Appeared in
twenty two games, essentially, So I guess my point is,
if you're only quote unquote only appearing in sixty games,
you're not gonna have more than forty something saved. So
there's gonna be days he appears. There's not a safe
spot because maybe they haven't won. Let's say they've.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Today's a good example.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
Today's a good example. He appeared in a game that
wasn't a safe spot.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It was four to two when he started warming.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
He started warming, who was in his hometown. But there's
gonna be days obviously he appears in a non safe spot.
So here's what I think is required to win the
cy Young and like you said, it's way too early
to talk about it, but let's talk about it. I
don't think you can blow more than one save. Okay,
that's what I start there. I'm not blowing more than
one save. I don't think your er can be higher
than about one point two. I really don't think it can.

(29:14):
And I think you're gonna have to rack up a
big save number. It doesn't have to be fifty five,
but it can't be.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Forty one, you know. So those are my prerequisites.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
High forties and saves one era, one blown save or fewer.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
I think this is the most important thing to take
away from either Buster Only's tweet or what you've been
talking about. And I've heard you say this before, that
you're expecting him to just be great all year, all
year long. I think the point to take away from
all this is Mason Miller is such a stud that

(29:49):
if you walk into pet Cole Park, you know how
they have typically and I haven't been there. I mean
we were there for opening Day, but we didn't go
into the actual game. We did our broadcast. You know,
they have the actual posters of all the like the
signage You're now at a stage where it's like, if
you put Mason Miller front and center in Manny a

(30:10):
little to the right and Tatisa a little to the left,
I'm not I'm okay with that.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
I'm not going to play right in the middle.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
The point is is that anybody having a cy young
conversation about a closer on April eighth, it's so absurd,
But it's a compliment to how good Mason Miller is
and how filthy his stuff is.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
You don't think he's locked it up as if yet.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
I think if you ask me in a week, no,
I mean I think he needs one more save.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Well, here's the other thing, though, that we haven't talked about.
And of course you're right, what are we talking about
April eighth? But Buster only brought.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
It, I said, more as a compliment, Like the fact
that that's a conversation is a is more of a
compliment to him.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
But here's the other thing. It's like Merrill ran up
against Skeens in Rookie of the Year. It wasn't his fault,
it was just a historically bad year to be vying
for it. As where Mason Miller could potentially benefit is
Paul Skans or someone like that doesn't go eighteen and
two with a one four to one.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Al Right, sure, and you can't predict that.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
If so, he'll he'll need a little helper.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
He's just gonna INEDI he can't have a he can't
be going up against a historic season.

Speaker 8 (31:21):
You can't.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
I don't think if there's a historic starter going up
against a.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Historic reliever and then he's gonna win, a sidera the historic.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
Starter is gonna throw this year one hundred ninety five innings.
Mason Miller's gonna throw sixty. So like, it's hard for
me to argue that the guy with the point three
in sixty innings is better than the guy that went
nineteen and two with a one to one.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
Now listen, and if I had a vote, I'm I'm
probably giving it to the starter too.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean it's maybe arguable. I mean, I don't
know what we'll be saying here locally. If it's Miller
and then it's Skeens, it's very similar to Maryland Skeens.
What if we're doing that same conversation, we get to September,
Skeens has a one four and you know, Mason Miller
has a point nine.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
The thing I didn't like about the Merrill race was
how many starts does Skeens have that year?

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Twenty three?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, yesterday? And my issue was.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Merrill was on a successful team and was a big
part of a successful team and was an everyday player.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's why I didn't like about it. So that's it.
And Skien, it was a popularity contest.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
He didn't pitch in any important game all year.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It was a yeah, we need this for the sport.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
Oh, my girlfriends Livy Dunn, you know what I mean,
Like he was with you. And that's not to take
away from his accomplishments. The fact that he's dating a
superstarters to mean he's not a great pitcher.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
But I think we both are saying the same thing.
It's like, at the end of the day, I don't
care what baseball wants. I don't care what's popular for
baseball and what's getting more clicks. If this dude deserved it,
give it to the man who deserved it. We'll see
what happens with Mason Miller.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah, and again, I to go down I hate to
go down this path again with Skeens real quick, but
Skeins is a great player and might be one of
a generational pitcher and may revive Pittsburgh Baseball. But like,
the face of the sport can't be pitching in front
of ninety four hundred people.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah, Like, that's just odd for the sport.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
You don't see Lebron James as a twenty seven year
old in Miami playing in front of forty three hundred.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
Wemby is must watch TV, and everywhere he goes and plays,
they're selling it out because it's Victor freaking Wen Beignond.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Nineteen hundred people in New Orleans to watch the Spurs
or the or the Thunders.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
That's just odd.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
I still feel like you're under selling what today's attendance was.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
What was to the craft.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
Over ten and I saw a couple of those like overhead?

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yep, what are they? What are these things called red shots?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:46):
The drones?

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Like during the game, it was embarrassing they do the
drone overhead. I'm like, oh my gosh, I didn't realize
how few people are.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
Do you think they announce the attendance or do you
think they say six hundred more from yesterday.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
It's all how you look at it. It's a good
point how you.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Look at it, John, more than just you know, I'm
being honest with you so far.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
So you're very negative right now on Pittsburgh and the Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
Pirates anti Pirates.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I would never get to clean that up a little bit.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
How many people would watch the Pirates wrap up show
if I was doing it?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Bro, you know what sucks? They like you said, they
got talent.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
They have talent, and they're in Pittsburgh where there's fans
of sports of course Wheelers and the Penguins. But for
whatever reason, well, Pirates have been good for forever.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
What do you got for as sad as Pittsburgh's attendance is,
they're not even the worst.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Well Sacramento plays in front of zero people, They're not well,
they're they're Techniamy the worst I know Miami. Miami's bad.
Casey's bad this year. But average, even with opening Day.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Twelve thousand, How could you average twelve thousand when you
had a crowd probably of twenty nine thousand in there?
Think about that, You've only played six games, you got
a twenty nine and then five five thousand person crowds.
Baseball's got problems, man, with some of these markets.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Apparently everybody.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
I'm surprised that you didn't say right after you said,
baseball's got problems, but the NBA has worse problems, because
I feel like we always go back to the NBA.
They all have problems, even the NFL, they all do.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
No, they definitely all do.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
They'll do.

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Speaker 7 (36:09):
My favorite part of the show today was when Brent
had to go cut sound and I picked up the
phone and you just started picking up the phones like
like you were home. Imere hanging out at home the
phone at home and nobody does nobody does.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
But it was like you were I don't know, closing
deals or something.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
You took me back to like DiCaprio in the Wall Street. Uh,
Wall Street. That's what it reminded me of. I was.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
I was going for that, So I'm glad it reminded
you of that.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Yeah, but you were you were very you were very
disrespectful to the listeners, so very aggressive. I was you
were cursing, like crazy, why are you calling us?

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Second earlier, like call if you want to talk?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Padre is like why are you calling us right now?
Don't you know him? On break?

Speaker 6 (36:55):
Speaking of like generational do you remember like I remember
my grandparents' place.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
They had the phone with the light, Oh yeah, yeah,
what was it? Rotary?

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:03):
And I was like fascinated by it because like as
a kid, I'm like what is this? And then now
my son is like fascinated by the idea of like
a phone with like.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
A wire like whatever.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
That was we had growing up, right with the buttons
you had the numbers on there beat beet, beet or whatever.
And now it's like I still use it? Do you
still use that carried around? I do not long courd
And now it's like, yeah, I don't know. Now you
have like seven year olds and they want cell phones.
I'm like, no, dude, you don't know.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
Well, I mean, and obviously what a phone is used
for today has nothing to do with the phone. That's
how many calls do I make a day?

Speaker 5 (37:38):
I never I call you.

Speaker 7 (37:40):
We literally, literally we probably each make six or seven
calls throughout the day, and the rest of the time
we're on our phone has nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's the actual phone.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
I know.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
You know, it's funny you say that. You know, in
the YouTube algorithm, you and I spent a lot of
time on YouTube. I'm sure our listeners do as well
in the algorithm. For whatever reason, I don't think I
asked for it, but I started getting presented with Steve jobs.
Is Steve jobs like speeches from whether it was to
like city councils about like building in like wherever their

(38:11):
offices are, what's the name of the tach Coopertino or
just about some of the product launches. And I just
did this in the last like five days.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
I watched the product launch of the iPhone.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
It's actually fascinating, I mean utterly fascinating to watch something
that impactful on society play out in that forum. Whereas
like it was amazing. However, he tastes like you want
a music player, and you want to be able to
call your mom yep, and you want to.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Be able to do this.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
It's like, now you get it all.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
It was an unbelievable concept.

Speaker 6 (38:43):
I mean it really And I don't know what's like
next to like revolutionize, revolutionalize.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
I can't even say the word like that.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
Yeah, I think what it's going to be is going
to be basically a robot saying we don't need you,
but we really appreciate everything you did in the past.

Speaker 6 (38:59):
Hey, Schaeffer and SLUA, move over for robots. Thank you
for thank you for creating us.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
But we're good. And by the way, they can go
eight hours if they want.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
True and they're not going to complain.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
There's not I don't have to log in an hour
or nothing.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Uh my wife has made it to ye and Inglewood
have you been to the into a zomb I have
been there. Uh, what are your impressions of it?

Speaker 7 (39:22):
You know, if it's crazy what happened in that area
in Los Angeles like you went I think ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
There's nothing there. I mean, I don't know what was there.
I'm sure there was.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
A lot there, but now you have this monstrous of
a stadium obviously in so far and then you got
into a dome as well, into a dome, it's nice,
Like I don't think I walk away saying this is
the greatest arena I've ever been to. You know, Bomber
was big on the amount of toilets. There's huge a

(39:54):
fan of toilets, so you don't have to wait. You
got to go to the bathroom, toilets, toilets everywhere, and
they got their wall. We all talked about this, a
portion of which is basically I had no.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Idea, Diego, You didn't have no idea that. That was
his article.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
Steve Balmer came down with the team in twenty nineteen
when Kawhi Leonard had his jersey retired. The Estecs are
twenty to zero, one of the top I think they
were fourth in the nation. When he came down and
San Diego State actually trailed Utah State the half that night,
and Matt Mitchell went off in the second half of
the Aztecs, but Kawhi Leonard was honored. Steve Fisher spoke
at the half and Steve Balmer was there for that,

(40:29):
and the story went then and still goes now because
there's an article on ESPN dot com today about the wall.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
The model is Balmer was enamored.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
By San Diego State student section the show.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
And by the way, Via House Arena was like a
one level bowl, like not a middle concourse, not two tiered.
Of course you're going to do that in the NBA,
but he wanted to have one portion of the arena
just like one level all the way up. And some
of it is in fact based on Via House Arena.
Also a German soccer club that has like the wall,
I don't brush is something is iconic for their fans

(41:03):
and this crazy fan supporter section.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's a cool story. That's interesting.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
It's kind of need.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
Now.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
My wife is is not in the wall here tonight,
she said. She just texted me, said Jones, our seven
year old is so embarrassed that she's asking for autographs.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
So I love mom is asking for the.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Autographs, and this loven heirl's like, she's she's excited.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
What is she supposed to do? She's been playing this
thing out for a month.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
Plus, a month plus.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
I'm like, do you know, do you know the story
of how you know?

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Obviously Bomber was trying to get He's trying to get
out of Crypto, right.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
And by the way, the Lakers don't even own Crypto.
Crypto is owned by AG and.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
They were like the third ten because it's Lakers, Kings, Clippers.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
Here you go and a AG owns you know, that
whole area. When he was trying to build into a dome. Yeah,
he had a hurdle because of the form. You know,
back in the days it was the Great Western Form, right,
so Dolan Dolan owned, Yeah, don't and own the forum.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
So they're like having these legal hurdles and this and that.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
So then he was like, why if I just cut
you a check for four hundred I'll give you four
hundred mili. I'll on the forum and you kind of
go about your way. I'll go about my way. Does
the forum still stand still stands? And I think that's
because I think they did a lot of work. Yeah,
it gets a lot of concerts and events like.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
That does stand and he owns it.

Speaker 7 (42:23):
He owns it. So you got forum into it. So
far all right next to each other. Let's just get
us one arena down here. Just get us here and
just no, just leave all that there. It is what
it is. Just get us get us our own little
uh location out there by the sports arena where.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
That's He's all right a check like I'll do the
I'll do the bomber move.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
She's worth do you know his network?

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Is he worth? Could he be? Is he worth over
a million dollars? Is he worth a million? Great question?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Five? Whoa two five one point two billionaire?

Speaker 5 (43:03):
Now what is he worth?

Speaker 7 (43:05):
He can buy a Buffalo Wild Wings franchise tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Uh he is worth just one hundred and twenty one billion?

Speaker 7 (43:15):
Is that possible? You're worth one hundred and twenty one dollars?
You're still sitting there right.

Speaker 6 (43:20):
If But the thing is, even if I had one
undred and twenty one billion, could I even get an arena?

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Buildings? You go, oh yeah, yeah, evolved through this project.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I'm telling you it's
gonna freaking happen.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
Who do you like tonight? My wife's at the Clippers
thunder game.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
You're you're under a good thing.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
They needed to win the thunder and winning by nine
could show today. We're back tomorrow, Rachel at three pm.
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