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January 27, 2025 • 29 mins
Leigh Bezezekoff joins Jessamyn to discuss the census WANMA is taking, what the association does for those in the Seattle music and nightlife scene, how they're still climbing back from the COVID days and why those in the industry should consider taking the census. In addition, she talks about the goals WANMA is looking to accomplish as a whole.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Jesson and McIntyre, your host of Seattle Voice,
your community Voice, presented by iHeartRadio Seattle. Well, it's no
secret that Seattle has a bustling music scene which has
been alive in this city for decades.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
But it's also no secret that times have changed.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's why I am here to welcome in Lee Bezizikov.
She is a capacity building specialist for Washington Nightlife Music Association. Lee,
thank you so much for your time today.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Thank you so much for having us. You really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, it's great to talk to you, because, I mean,
I've lived out here since two thousand and nine. I
obviously knew everything when I was growing up in New
York about Seattle's music scene, but it seems like things
have changed and Washington Nightlife Music Association is a part
of what's going on with the music scene here.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
So why don't you tell me a little bit about
the organization.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Sure, the Washington Nightlife and Music Association. We're also known
as WANMA. It's the nightlife advocacy organization dedicated to providing support, education,
and economic development to the live music industry in Washington State.
So we advocate on behalf of business owners like music
venues and record labels, nonprofits, as well as artists. It's

(01:12):
kind of similar to what a restaurant or bar association
does for their members, but our members will be those
types of businesses, industry advocates, independent musicians. We're in the
process right now building out that infrastructure, so we don't
have memberships available yet, but we hope too soon.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So what is the goal of the association While you're
building these memberships, while you eventually can't will have them.
You know, you're building this infrastructure, who does it benefit
and what is the goal?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, it benefits everybody in the nightlife industry in Washington,
So that's a pretty vast amount of things. So our
main focus is on the live music industry within that,
so music venues, record labels, live performance spaces like bars
that have like live music on weekend, and things like that.

(02:01):
Those types of businesses will benefit from our work, as
well as everybody who works in the industry, like workers
like myself and others who work at these places, at
music festivals, at venues, at all of these places, and
most importantly, the artists in our communities.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh, you gotta love a symbiotic relationship. We know that
the nightlife. You know, I had simply bartended my way
through college and it's all, you know, intersectional. So I
like that, you know, one thing benefits everybody. That's really cool.
Lee Buzizakov is with me of WAMA, and I do
want to know you have this capacity building specialist title.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
What exactly do you do with the organization?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
I know that's a pretty funny term. I'm getting used
to it myself, but basically, this organization has been volunteer
run by music industry veterans since it formed in twenty
twenty during the pandemic. It was formed by a group
of music venues and operators to help provide a passer
venues and performance spaces to stay open during the shutdown,

(03:02):
and we helped form another organization called Keep Music Live Washington,
which helped to raise over a million dollars to keep
the independent venues open during all of this. And right now,
like we've kind of that was like our big thing,
and then since then we've been working on like nightlife
training and I'm sorry about that. We've been working on

(03:23):
a variety of things including nightlife training, security training, active
shooter training, ADA standards, all ages, accessibility, musician parking, all
sorts of things like that. So we've all been doing
that on a volunteer basis, but we haven't had any
funding for anybody to work on this full time. And
so myself and Jordan Swider, who also is a long

(03:45):
standing music venue worker, she did a lot of work
at El corazone. She and I were hired to help
build out the infrastructure of this organization, which is everything
from getting it off the ground, like getting bank accounts
and highharing people and launching you know, statewide music senses
and just getting this organization off the ground so we

(04:08):
can start focusing on the bigger things that we want
to deal with, which is like helping improve nighttime transportation options,
helping businesses affected by like our writs and cost of
doing business, all of those types of things.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Well, that's great.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Now you mentioned the census, and that is what I
really wanted to talk to you about today. You know,
I see this press release Washington State Music Census launches
to shine a bite on music's impact and needs. Now
you're the one who has the expertise and what exactly
the census is for.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Can you tell me about it and what you're trying
to do with it.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, our music ecosystem is really vast and very diverse,
and it varies so much across the regions of our state.
The intention of the census is to gather data to
measure measure the economic, cultural, and cultural impact of our
industry on the state of Washington and really identify the
needs and growth opportunities for the industry. So music industry

(05:04):
in Seattle looks very different than Still Can, looks very
different from Walla Walla and Munatchi And we're just trying
to get an idea of what it looks like in
all of these areas so that we can start to
put together like programs, resources, support, and any other initiatives
that come along to help make our industry continue to thrive.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
One of the things that is mentioned in this article
that I was reading about the census is the impact
of COVID, And you know you did mention also the
rising costs of doing business. How much of an economic
downturn have you seen from twenty twenty on and where
are we in the uptick of it growing.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Back well, I worked for a music venue for ten
years that attracted tavern in Seattle, and I can tell
you for certain that twenty nineteen was one of our
biggest years we've ever had as far as the confluence
of artists touring through people coming out to everything was
so much fun. We had a lot of sold out shows,
and then I worked with them after the reopening and

(06:08):
we struggled to get people in the door. Obviously a
lot of people were hesitant to come back in. That
took a long toll on everybody. And then people's behaviors
have changed since then because a lot of people work
from home, and that has a really big impact on people.
You know, like there used to be time when you'd
get off work, go to the you know, go to
happy hour with folks, and then you'd stay out and

(06:29):
see what was going on in the neighborhood. People aren't
doing that anymore. So it's really turned into a destination event,
these these shows, and people aren't exploring our music scene,
our local music scene as much. They are coming for
the shows that they are more familiar with. They're not exploring,
they're listening, you know, They're coming to these what's what's

(06:51):
big on Spotify, you know, and so there's a there's
quite a big change. You know, there's there's also the
economic impact of bird sales. You know, people aren't drinking
and consuming alcoholic products in the same way that they
have in the past, And I would say it's good
for humanity, but it's bad for our business model. It's

(07:11):
been a big change between you know, twenty nineteen and
where we're at today, where you know might look a
little busy, but the economics of it have changed so drastically.
With all of our costs going up. The bar program,
which has been the what primarily keeps these businesses going
and paying all the bills, is that revenue is down.

(07:34):
So it's getting harder and harder for venues and performance
spaces to with these really high rent areas, especially in Seattle,
continue to operate. Soeah, kind of where we're at right now.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, that's it's pretty sad.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Like I said, I moved out here in two thousand
and nine, and there was just this organic thing. I
was one of those people that would you know, be
out in Seattle. I've moved out of the city itself
right now, just because because you know, it's more affordable
to live outside the city. So it is a destination
event when I come down. But while I was living,
you know, I did exactly that. I would go explore.
I would go to a day football game and walk

(08:13):
around the entire neighborhood and just pop in places. You know,
I love the Crocodile. I used to go there all
the time. I have been to the Tractor Tavern several times,
so I do know that is a fun place to visit.
But that organic visiting seems to have and it's not
just Seattle.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
It isn't.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's just like you said, behavioral changes, but in a
city that is so high tech, you can see that
happening a little bit, having a little.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
More impact in a city like this.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
So again, Lee Busizakov is joining me from WUANMA Washington
night Music Nightlife Music Association. Lee, I'm looking at the
objectives of this music census, and you know, we did
talk about the economic impact, but you also have a
bunch of different things here, equity and inclusion.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Can we drill into that a little bit.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's as highlighting barriers to entry and opportunities to improve
access for underrepresented groups. What will the senses do to
actually make that come to fruition.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Well, we're particularly helpful to hear from our queer community,
BIPOC folks, and women in the industry, because these these
communities are often really overlooked when creating policies and programs
that support the industry as a whole, and that's not
catered to the individual needs, like you know, a lot
of a lot of artists now have families that then

(09:33):
they can't tour as much and things like that. So
we really need to take a look at what these
changes on our income are and the way that we're
doing business in the way that we are you know,
working together as an industry. So our sensus focuses on
two years twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three, so we
can look at both how the pandemics changed, but also

(09:56):
that's a pretty big span of time between how artists
would have been out on the road, you know, x
number of dates versus how what they're at now and
with the changing needs, with the changing you know, infrastructure
of everything, and costs getting so high for like gas
and merchandise and everything. You know, like bands are having

(10:19):
a hard time just making and meet on a tour.
So you know, we're really looking at that impact and
we want to make sure that we are looking at
you know, are are you were you able to you know,
make more money back then and you're not now? Like
you know, what are some of those economic factors that
are are that are have affected that absolutely?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
We disease of coffee with me for momma, and you know,
I'm looking at this too with the community needs and
we kind of touched on it obviously. You know, the
money isn't coming in like it used to just because
of a lot of different factors. There's rise and costs,
different behaviors and you know, identifying gaps and infrastructure and
funding where does the majority of funding come from?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
That is that is a big challenge for our industry.
You know, it's been it's been fiercely independent for such
a long time, and it wasn't until the world shutdown
and we were forced to ask for help that it
really came into you know, elimination of how little support
we are getting from funding sources. I mean, you think
of big performance halls and they have you know, they

(11:27):
have members of the you know, Sympathy Symphony. They have big,
large scale grants that are dedicated to supporting those spaces.
Whereas the independent lives music venue like the Tractor or
likes the crocodile. We don't have the same access to
that type of funding sources. So we're trying to take
a look at you know, like where does that look

(11:47):
like from ticket sales, and you know, the number of
people are coming in and trying to figure out, like,
you know what that looks like. You know, the other
gaps and infrastructure are, you know, the lack of business
support that artists have, Like there's not as many management
companies out here, there's not as many booking agencies, and oftentimes,
like artists will leave this state and move to another

(12:10):
area like Los Angeles or Nashville or Austin, New York
where they have access to more opportunities to get exposure
to these types of companies that support their careers.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
We know that there are several bands that have made
it huge that have come out of the city of Seattle.
Is there any information or any conversation that has happened
with anyone who still resides or still holds a heart
here in Seattle from the bands that have come out
of here and the musicians.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think during the pandemic, the bands who have made
it out in a bigger way were really dedicated to
supporting the local economy that they came from, they rose from.
I'm also part of a local music venue, Conoburn, which
closed in March twenty two for due to the owner

(13:02):
needing to sell the business, and then that that group
of employees who worked there, including myself, turned it into
a cooperative. So we saw a lot of big name
folks who really spoke about the importance of these first stages.
The connor Burns definitely amongst one of the venues, you know,
the Head and the Heart, very famous for forming. They're

(13:27):
all meeting through connor Burn's open mic and so, you know,
I think that there is a lot of support that
comes from these bigger bands. Pearl Jam Foundation, that's huge.
They were instrumental in helping with the Key Music Live
program So Mixed a Lot Who's still here was massive
in that effort and ended up getting recognized by the

(13:50):
City of Seattle and King County UH through Mix a
Lot Day for his contributions to helping the music economy.
So we do feel like there are a lot of
love and support from the artist community. Who has quote
unquote made out Malcolmore, did Brandy Carlisle? Did you know
there's there's just a lot of a lot of love

(14:11):
and support for hometown folks, and we definitely have appreciated that.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's really great to hear, and I love it.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I you know, I've run in and come across, and
I'm mostly in sports, so you know, those entertainment industries
tend to coincide here and there. And you know, I've
seen Duf mccagan and Mike McCready do great things for
both the music industry and their own endeavors when it
comes to the charitable sides of things, So that that's
awesome to hear that it goes to you guys as well.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And Death was definitely a huge part of Like we
did this final fundraiser, it was like live YouTube events
and Death mccagan, Raine Wilson, like we had Kathleen Hannah
from Bikini Kill, Like we had amazing amount of support
for that program and that effort.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
That is great. That is asolutely great.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
And I think one of the things that makes this
and you probably feel it too, but what makes the
Seattle music community so special is because of the huge
amount of giving back that people do to the to
the industry where they either grew up or where they
got their start, so that's really amazing.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, you know, we're kind of violated a little bit
up here on the corner of the US just by
the nature of the tour routes. You know, there's not
a whole lot of When you look at doing a
West Coast tour, there's like there's Vancouver, BC, Bellingham, Seattle,
sometimes Tacoma Olympia area, but then there's not really much

(15:42):
until you get to you know, Portland, and then there's
not much until you start getting into northern California. Now
there's definitely smaller communities, and bands who have a smaller
audience have definitely found to holds in different and smaller communities.
But when you look at like larger tours, this is
you know, a little bit of a challenge. So we're
pretty isolated out here, and when you look at bands

(16:05):
trying to get in and come up in the scene
and get on the road, there's a little bit of
a bubble effect, like they might get Seattle big, but
they have a hard time making it out to other
areas in the region and the States because of how
expensive it is to tour in and out of the Northwest.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, that is a really good point one. I wouldn't
have thought of lead disas a cough of UAMA joining
me here.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
And another thing that I'm looking at with your census
is an effort in policy development. What can policy makers
do to improve things for the Washington music scene.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know, we're excited to get in and see what
we can do with this. Other cities have done a
census in their area, like we've Nashville, New Orleans, and Austin, DC, Minneapolis,
so many other people have censuses in their states, So

(17:02):
we're excited to be amongst them and to try to
figure that out. But you know, Nashville did one and
they learned that they really needed to create new partnerships
to bridge the tourism industry and their divorced their diverse
local music community. And so they're just launching something like
next month on the first of this program where they're
going to be spotlighting local music and efforts to make

(17:27):
that more attractive to tourists. So it's really exciting to
kind of see what this looks like. You know, New
Orleans was focusing on like you know, there's so many
gig musicians there, like they just go around from place
to place to place to place, but it's becoming increasingly
harder for them to make enough to earn a living,
and so they're they're getting that data from their census

(17:50):
and trying to figure out like, well, what can we
do to kind of bridge that gap. And you know,
there's other cities who have piloted things like universal basic
income for ours this. There are programs in the UK
which are having you know, communication through the bigger, you know,
arena sized venues to contribute a portion of their ticket

(18:13):
sales to be dedicated to independent venues. So we're looking
at kind of all kinds of programs like that and
how they could be implemented here. So it's important for
us to look at the data that we're getting from
the census to really kind of drive a strong sentiment
about it.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
That's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I didn't know that that was happening in other cities
and must make it easier for you to at least
have something, not necessarily to mirror exactly, but an idea
of what they are gathering and how it could benefit them.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, no, I agree, And you know, these findings we're
going to be sharing these at the upcoming Cascadia Music Senment,
which is taking place here in Seattle and April. This
is a conglomer out of Washington, Oregon, Alaska, and Idaho.
Our music industry folks are going to come together and
review the findings from our individual censuses. Each state is

(19:10):
working on one, a few of them have already done there.
It's like Oregon and Alaska we're in the middle of
ours right now or at the tail end, and Idaho
is hoping to get things done by then. But we're
all kind of come together to talk about, you know,
what these results look like. Are they different, vastly different
between us. How can we strengthen our industry to make

(19:30):
touring in the Northwest more attractive to artists from all
over the world. So it's really exciting to see that
there's just information being shared across, you know, different platforms,
different groups. The National Independent Venue Association NIVA, which also
formed during the pandemic kind of along spot at the
same time as ours group our group did. They've launched

(19:53):
a national survey for independent venues and use accessibles, and
we're talking with them about sharing the information back and
forth so that we can have a big picture of
what the economics look like for our industry.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Wow, a national one and a local one that's really
great in New Orleans and Nashville were the two cities
I thought of as soon as you started talking in
the beginning of our conversation of like, wow, they're probably
doing something like this, because like I said, it hasn't
just changed in Seattle, it's changed everywhere. Those are two
awesome cities to follow the footsteps. And now let's get
to this census specifically, because you want people to sign up.

(20:31):
Can you talk about those who you want to take
this census and participate in it?

Speaker 3 (20:36):
And why yes, anybody who makes income from the music
industry in Washington State, the entire state, so artists, music
businesses like venues, labels, record stores, manufacturers, even like people
who are photographers for live music, poster makers, the whole scene.
All the people who work in the industry. We want

(21:00):
we want all of your voices hurt. There is is
broken down to whether you are an artist, a music worker,
or business and you can take it as all free.
Because a lot of us have so many size hustles
that we end up falling into multiple categories, and we
have multiple sources of income, like I have three jobs,

(21:20):
you know, and that's just my reality to make it
in the city, so I fit across a couple of
different you know, you know, platforms like live music venues, festivals,
you know, you know, services like professional services which are
nonprofit would fall into. So it's designed to capture that
and to understand, you know, how much money did I

(21:42):
make for my work and music festivals? How much did
I make from my work and venues? How much did
I make from this? You know. But it's not like
my individual knowledge data point. It's because it's completely anonymous.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, it's very very anonymous. Like people are getting angry
with us for sending up follow up emails. We're like,
they're like, we did it already. It's like, I know,
but we don't know because it's anonymous. We know it's
really difficult to share personal information like income, especially with
you know, what's going on right now with the strust
of the internet and facts and all of that. So

(22:17):
we just wanted, you know, to understand and acknowledge that.
But it is completely anonymous. We have a third party
economic group who is doing all of the analyzing of
the data. We will never see any individual data points.
And there's nothing to tie any you know, respondents with
any of the data that's that's being collected, so completely

(22:39):
anonymous very quick takes two minutes from most people, and
maybe up to fifteen if you have a bunch of
different categories, including a business that you're reporting on.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
So again, Lee Busiza Cough is joining me from Washington
Nightlife Music Association. And I also noticed someone a category
in here for music educators people teach any form of
music or music music educator for any group.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
So would that include school teachers?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
You know, yes, I think we would rather be inclusive
than not. I think the intent was mostly that, you know,
a lot of musicians have side hustles where they teach
voice or instruments to young and tow young folks. So
we do want to say that if you are making
money off of the music industry, yes, be a part

(23:28):
of this. You know, we don't want to turn anybody away.
We don't want anybody to select themselves out of it.
They'll get so they'll get to see what the classifications
are when they get into the survey, which is available
WANMA dot info w A n M A dot I
n f O and it's the statewide Music census.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Well, it did.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
We hope that you participate.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, and I would imagine that you never know what
kind of just like cross crossroads, you might meet. Like
you said, you know, people do different things, and you
never know if you know, a music teacher got into
music for a reason, so they might know someone who
knows someone and they might want to get involved.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Too, exactly. And it's it's very likely that if they're
a music teacher in a school, they're actually probably in
a band as well, you know, yeah, or they'll teach,
they'll teach, you know, on the side. You know however
that looks because you know, we all we all have
the gig gigging in our systems, side hustles, whatever you
want to call it, and are ingrained in us.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yes, I do the same thing. I host this show.
I'm on SportsTalk Radio. I sideline report for football. So
I hear gig economy. I definitely hear that. I understand. Okay, yeah,
let's go through that one more time. How people can
can take the survey what to click on? And you
said it takes about two minutes per industry category that

(24:49):
you fall into.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, I mean for artists and music workers, it will
never take more than two minutes. It's so much easier
for us, which is really nice. And it might only
take a few more minutes if you have a business.
So there's a few things that you have that we
have on our website too, have in mind and have ready,
you know, and ticket sales reports things like that, and

(25:11):
payroll reports and things you know for those two years
twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three. But to get to
the census, you go to WANMA dot info, wa n
m A dot I NFO. It's the Washington night Life
and Music Association and it it's the Washington State Music Census.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
From there, beautiful, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
So my favorite part about this I know everything that
you do, but I don't know you that much. So
this is how I like to end every show. It's
by getting to know you a little bit. You told
me about all the different jobs that you have, and
I like to ask people some of their favorite moments
or to tell one of their favorite stories throughout everything
that you have done in your career and these endeavors
for Washington Nightlife Music Association.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
You know, it's you know, I'm new to BUMMA because
I've been you know, just working on this part time
as my my career has been you know, it's been
going alongside it. I got my start volunteering at KXP,
working with Kevin Cole. I started managing bands for a
really long time. I worked with groups like the Maldives,
and I started working on music festival like Freak Out

(26:21):
Music Accessible, Bumber Shoot. I've worked on, you know, just
a variety of Mayfield mus Successival as one of the
founders of that. We I worked at the Tractor Taverns
for about ten years. I got to know so many
people from all over the world and just to see
their careers bloom. Like Charlie Crockett, who you know, we booked.

(26:44):
He wasn't big enough for our room, so we booked
him a little a show at the Sunset, which is
about half of the capacity. And watching him grow and
build his audience and then people singing along, and then
him out growing our room and now he's playing at
you know, lay big venues. By just seeing that over
the years has been absolutely wonderful. Watched a lot of
shows from the side stage at the Tractor, and I

(27:07):
can tell you I definitely watched the musician so much,
but I really loved watching the audience watch the musician,
So that's kind of my favorite part.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh, that's really awesome.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's almost like when the bride is walking down the
aisle watching the groom. Yeah, yeah, I love that too.
One of my favorite movies that I've watched over and
over again is Bohemian Rhapsody and their involvement with the
audience when they came out with the you know we
will we will rock you. You know that that was the

(27:39):
intention of the song was to involve the.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Crowd exactly, and it's so much fun, like when when
you're at a when you're at a show and everybody
starts singing along, you just feel like you feel amazing,
You feel the charge, the energy, and the artists are
having a blast. Everybody's having a good time and it's magic.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So I love that me too.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Busy as a Washington night Life Music Association, Now, I
have one final question if those who aren't part of
the industry but are consumers of the industry, if is
there any way that they can get involved to help.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, we have our social media. You know, of course,
the times they're changing with all of that, but it's
the really best and easiest way to share the information.
We're on Instagram, we're on Facebook, we're on even just LinkedIn.
If you are any if you are interested in supporting

(28:33):
this cause, and no people in your life that are
in the music industry that should hear about this place,
forward one of our posts along to them for the website,
along to them, and most importantly, continue to like and
respond and share the artists information, because that's really what
it comes down to and what we all need to
break through all of the algorithm changes that are affecting

(28:57):
all of us. It's just like a post with it
doesn't take very long. Share it if you can. That
makes it much easier to get through, and that makes
a huge, huge impact, and it doesn't feel like nothing,
but it really is a big impact.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
It is.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
That is the way of the world right now. Social
media is the biggest advertiser out there. I think we
can all attest to that these days. Lee, thank you
so much for your time. I really really appreciate you
spending it and we'll get the word out here for
everything that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Thank you. We really appreciate your support and this interview
has been fantastic. I love getting to chat with you
and just talk about all of the fun things that
we're doing and why and who we're helping. So thank
you for this opportunity. We appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Of course, I'll be liking and following and sharing quite
a bit over the next coming months, and we'll keep
an eye on what's going on with the census. And
you've been listening to Seattle Voice, presented by iHeartRadio Seattle.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I'm Jessaman McIntyre.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Remember for show ideas or to find out how your
voice can be heard, email Seattle Voice at iHeartMedia
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