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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the five o'clock hour on a Friday, which means
for most weeks during baseball season. Chandler Rome of the
Athletic joins us. I think we have a Chandler Rome
back here on the on the phone. Apologize for the
technical issues, Chandler, but yeah, as you were talking about
both the pitching and then look, Jordan Alvarez, I feel
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like every single time we talk to you, it's you know,
the superlatives are endless and there's really nothing else you
can say. But he actually acquitted himself nicely in the
All Star Game. On top of that, Wex was mentioning
earlier in the show there he is the clear cut
leader in the clubhouse, not only for MVP votes, I
would think, but the triple crown is absolutely a reality.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I saw Wex's tweet that Yandi Diaz went o for
four today, so now they're tied in batting average. He
already led the American League at home runs and RBIs
if he wins a triple crown, I think it's it's fate. Accompley,
He's gonna win the AL MVP. Right, There's only been
sixteen other guys in history that I've ever won a
triple crown, and no one's done it since Miguel Cabrera
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in twenty twelve. If he wins a triple crown, he's
the MVP, hands down. But yeah, he's just I mean,
you run out of adjectives, you run out of superlatives
to describe what you're watching him do. It's, without a doubt,
one of the best seasons in franchise history, and it's
not even close.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I'm not sure what the numbers will end up being,
but all those things are certainly true. They'll matter more
if what happens around him in the lineup comes through.
We know what the top four, probably five almost every
single day will be, but it's really after those top
four do you get a feeling for what we might
see from the rest of this group. Is there the
likelihood or do you feel any better about you know,
al Tuve the rest of the season. He clearly had
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his home run bat with him on this last road trip,
but overall it's been the same cam Smith's peripherals and
I've pointed him out a few times. Bat speed, elite,
hard hit percentage way up. His strikeout numbers are still down.
There are a lot of reasons to see what progress
has been made, but the production, the actual concrete results
aren't there. And then anybody else you want to suggest,
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anybody else, they should feel like something's coming from them
over the final sixty plus the obvious. How about Lucas Spence.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, they hope. And I don't know if I mentioned
this on the air with you guys in a couple
of weeks ago when they promoted Lucas Spence to triple A,
but they kind of want him to be the Zach
Dezenzo of this year, to kind of be the Zach
Cole of this year as well, guys. That I mean,
he's been their best hitter in the minor leagues for
the last two months and they're just hoping and Joe
spot us at it today. They need him to provide
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a spark. They just need to come up here. He's
fast as hell, he can run balls down in center field.
The bat is not ready yet, probably, but look they're
riding the hot hand and they don't really have any
other options. I thought it was quite the indictment on
the offseason on the roster construction that when Bryce Matthews,
it goes on the il it's Lucas Spence coming up
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instead of Joey Loperfido, who was the only major league
outfielder acquired this offseason. It's Lucas Spence coming up over
Jake Myers. It's a pretty telling indictment of where they
are and just kind of really accentuates that they don't
have time to be patient. They don't have time to
see if guys can play and work it out. Like
they've seen what they've got to see from those guys
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and it's not going to happen. So they're trying anything
they can right now before they maybe go to the
trade deadline and get someone here externally.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is there any reason though, and I say this because
it's just I just don't see that they have the
at least minor league prospects that you would even if
you wanted to make a deal.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know if you want to do it that way.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So my question would be, you know, is there going
to be a it's not a seismic move, but you're
pretty confident they'll make a move, right.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I feel like unless they just completely fall on their
face out of the All Star break and fall way
out of it, I feel like they're yes, they're going
to you know, look, it seems like we say this
every year, right, like they don't have the prospects, they
don't have this and that to do a big move.
But Jim Crane has made his name as one of
the most aggressive owners at every trade deadline, and somehow
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they have found a way to reel in a big
name every year. I don't know if that's possible this year.
It doesn't seem to me that it's possible, But don't
I wouldn't rule it out because he's he's the guy
that he's made his name as the most aggressive owner
at every trade deadline. But what are they gonna have
to do? I think the most straightforward way to do this.
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They don't have to want of two things. They even
have to trade off of their major league roster to
another contender. Do like a buyer for buyer trade, because
there's gonna be so few sellers that it's a seller's market,
and I'm not sure that they can just go straight
to the sellers because the sellers are gonna want prospects
and the astros don't have prospects. So maybe a buyer
for buyer kind of trade like that or they're gonna
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have to take on a bad contract. They're gonna have
to take on the rest of the they are going
to have to have salary dumped on them, as opposed
to dumping salary on someone else like they did with
Lance mccullors, like they did with Haysus Sanchez. So now
getting part of Lance's money off the payroll will help
them be able to take on maybe a bigger contract
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from another team than doesn't want to pay it anymore.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Lance mccullor's junior as you brought up, has made his
way to Milwaukee, has met with media there. Obviously, he's
met with his team and his manager Pat Murphy, who
said today he'll pitch out of the bullpen to begin
his Brewer's tenure, something that he indicated he was willing
to do here in Houston. Just tell us a little
bit about how kind of the week unfold it, I
guess Monday through the trade and how it all happened
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Crane and Dana and Lance's involvement in it all, and
ultimately the situation they're in now is he will in
fact pitch for another team during his major league baseball career,
something that I don't think he envisioned ever happening.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, this goes back a while, and as I reported
at the Athletic, he was in one of the packages
that the Astros would have sent to the Cardinals for
Nolan Arnatto last year. They have been trying to trade
him for a good while, and I think just as
the games ticked off and as the contract became a
little more palatable to take on, I think there were
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more interesting teams. The Brewers are desperate. The Brewers are
desperate for it. Sounds like Brandon Woodruff is going to
be out for a very long time. Jacob Mizarowski has
some arm fatigue, They've got other guys that are injured.
They needed bodies, they needed depth, and the Milwaukee Brewers,
of all teams, were willing to absorb a little bit
of salary, which you never hear so. But I think
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it was a noble way for them to end Lance's
tenure here because I think it was going to end
here pretty soon. Whether it would have come in the
form of a DFA, whether it would have come in
the form of a release, I think that's kind of
an inglorious way to end what was a good here
in Houston. And I know the last four years have
not gone well. I understand that, but just it was
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he will go down as an indelible face of this era.
His fingerprints are all over this. They do not win
the twenty seventeen World Series without him, They do not
win the twenty twenty two ALVS without him pitching as
well as he did in Seattle. So a very fine
career for Lance in Houston that I give credit to
all parties that they found a way for this to
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end amicably and with everyone leaving on good terms.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
It's actually interesting to think about, you know him in
another uniform, because he is such a he seems like
such a lifer.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But if there's been no and a AC, he is
a lifer.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I mean he told me on he told me on Wednesday,
like him and Care are going to live here forever,
like they're not selling their house, Like they're coming back here,
like he loves. And I want to make that point too,
that like that's not normal, Like you don't see a
lot of professional athletes really embrace the city that they
play in as much as Lance does. And Houston's been
spoiled a little bit by how two v's like that,
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Like you've seen guys. But that's not that's not real.
That's not common, right, Like how many Texans like throw
up the hs except for cow Like Like is KD
gonna like say he loves Houston and Houston so like, no, Like,
that's not what most professional athletes do. I think that's rare.
I think that something needs to be appreciated.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah. Plus, Houston women aren't bougie enough for CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
No easy there now. Andre Johnson is an example of
last year colors.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
That is true because he is a Miami guy and
he has completely adopted Houston.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So I will give you that for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Like doesn't JJ Watt. Doesn't JJ Watt just hang out
in Wisconsin, though he.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Spends a lot of time in several places. Arizona's one
of them, Wisconsin is another, and occasionally he drops by Utah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, he goes to real Salt Lake, but you better
recognize his wifey.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh I read that thing. I was like, oh, who
guts some important and got fired?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Do you have anything else for our listeners?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Since it was All Star week and you know we
talked to you last Friday, it's been a week. Anything
just our listeners might be interested. It could be any subject.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Do you like the Derby?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah? Did you like the new format of the Derby?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I prefer the time limit. I prefer that because I
think that's cooler. But I think the way it transpired,
like it could not have ended better. And I think
it was good for baseball that Jordan Walker won it,
that it was a different face, that it was like, Look,
if Kyle Schwarber would have wanted it would have been great,
Like he wins it in Philly, would have been awesome.
But like, I think it's good for baseball that there
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is a fresh face, a new face, energetic, great. Probably
his parents were great, His grandparents were great. Like, I
really enjoyed that, And I thought that was good for baseball.
And I thought it was good for baseball that your
and Alvarez went up there and got a single off
a lefty.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh, I was just happy. I was just happy that
Kyle Schwarber didn't bunt. No, I want to add something
to to a lot of what you said.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Just to Walker, there's eight guys that are competing and
there were several fresh new faces. Caglione could have been
in a similar situation working with whomever. That's throwing their pitches.
But Walker is a star in Saint Louis. He was
supposed to be a star immediately after he got to
the majors and wasn't last year, and it's completely turned
it around. And I think the fact that he's winning
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the award and then he's sitting down on set with
Barry Bonds and Albert Poohols and Anthony Rizzo. But these
guys were really good with him. You brought up the family,
the Walker family, his mom and his grandmother's dad. That's
what That's how you build your sport. You have more
people for fans to know and know about than just
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guy who comes to town every once in a while
or maybe you see him on TV here. It helps
grow your sport when you have things like that happen
and you put it on display. And I thought handle
it very well. Happened to be a first go round
for the streaming service that did it. But I don't
know if everybody else agrees. I thought it was all fantastic.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, And I don't want to compare the two directly,
but Jordan Walker is proof that player development is not linear, right,
like you mentioned it, WEX like first round pick has
every tool in the world. Was supposed to be like
the next face of the Cardinals, and he really struggled
for three years, like really struggled to get optioned just
was they were labeling him a bus But it takes
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a while sometimes, And you know, when I look at
you mentioned Cam Smith earlier, like I don't want to
compare those two guys directly, but it just goes to
show you that player development's not linear, and it takes
it takes time sometimes, and I think Jordan Walker is
a great example of that. And I think he's someone
that I think a lot of fans can look at
him and see a player on their team and put
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him from their perspective.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
If you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Jordan Walker twenty first overall pick in his draft handful
of years ago and camp Smith was fourteenth. Last year,
camp Smith's ops plus was eighty seven, which isn't good,
and Jordan Walker's was sixty six. And this year Jordan
Walker is every At the All Star he was selected
as there's one player in the major leagues with more
RBI than you are on Alvarez, it's Jordan Walker. I'm
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glad you brought that up. The derby I thought was
very entertaining. We'll see if it plays out as entertaining
under these rules if they remain unchanged next year. An
extended visit with Chandler Rome always appreciated.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Chandler all right, Thanks guys,