July 9, 2026 • 11 mins
Thursday on The A-Team, Chandler Rome joined Adam Wexler to discuss the Astros' starting pitching concerns following Mike Burrows' demotion and the continued struggles of Spencer Arrighetti and Tatsuya Imai. Rome also shared his thoughts on Yordan Alvarez's long-term future with the club and what a potential new contract could look like.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our weekly guests. Chandler, Roma normally joins us on Friday,
is set to join us right now. Astros with an
off day today, three more games before the All Star break.
They are in Arlington for the Rangers Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
The Rangers are actually playing this evening before we get there,
but Chandler joins us now. As the Astros went through
Washington and ended up losing their second series of their
(00:22):
last three, They're starting pitching left a lot to be desired.
They only left town with two of the three starting
pitchers from that series. It seemed a long time coming, Chandler,
but the decision finally made to see if Mike Burrows
can figure things out while he's not hurting the major
league team. What do you think is truly next over
the next couple of weeks for Mike Burrows.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He's gonna slid into the triple A rotation, so it's
not as if they're sending into a bullpen or this
is like a reset sort of thing, like he's gonna
keep pitching. He's gonna keep pitching as a starter. I
think it just got to a point where there was
so much that they are trying to work on to
get him right, that it almost became impossible to do
(01:05):
it on a major league schedule, on trying to do
it while being a competitive starter for the major league team. So,
you know, the one thing that Mike Burrows has done
and did for his entire you know stent up here,
was he gave them length, right. I think he went
six innings and at least fifteen of seventeen starts. But
(01:28):
he wasn't able to do that on Monday in Washington
after being staked to a five run lead that didn't
help the cause. And then just the pure fact that
they were going to need an extra arm. And I
think they wanted an extra arm because they weren't gonna
need that spot in the rotation again, Like, I think
it made sense to do it when they did it,
just to give him a full break, give him a
(01:49):
full kind of reset, and see where they go. But
it's pretty clear he's gonna have to pitch better. He's
gonna have to pitch better in triple A. I'm not
sure they're going to look solely at results, but they're
gonna want to see a lot of the changes that
they've been trying to make with him kind of translate
into a little less pressure environment. But yeah, not the
outcome that Dana Brown or the Astros wanted for this
(02:12):
thing to go.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
This way.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
He goes four and a third, followed by three and
two thirds from Emai, followed by four innings from Spence Araghetty,
with the potential for other options being available, whether it's
Tavier Blanco, mccullor's junior or not long after maybe Hayden
was Nesky. Are those similar questions that have been asked
and now answered about Burrows needing to be asked and
(02:34):
potentially answered about Imai and Araghetty. Obviously they're both in
very different situations.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, look, if Tess Emai wasn't making eighteen million
dollars and wasn't on a dke In commercial that airs
before every game at dyke In Park, and we probably
would be having a more serious conversation, right, Like I think,
if you look at his body of work, he's probably
more worthy of a minor league option of getting him
out of the rotation in some capacity. Because the thing
(03:04):
with Mike Burrows that you could like and I mentioned earlier,
the thing that you could rely on.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
With him was that he would get you deep into games.
He would get you into the fifth or sixth inning.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now he may allow three or four runs in the process,
but eating innings is valuable.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Tetsuya em I just just cannot do that.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Like you have no There is no semblance of consistency
with him in any fashion. You know, it's it's laborious
at best and it's terrible at worst. And you know, again,
if he wasn't on the contract he's on, if there
wasn't other extenuating circumstances, I think you'd be having a
pretty serious conversation about whether he should truly continue to
(03:44):
be in this rotation because he I know, Mike Burrows
has the era that's on sightly, and I know he's
thrown more innings, but Tetsuya Imai is the clear cut
weakest link of this rotation.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And it's not really close. You know, with Spencer Righetti.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You know, he obviously, as everyone knows, he started the
year in triple A, and I think you're starting to
see why. I think you know a lot of people
that were very irate that he started in triple A
to begin the year. I think you're kind of starting
to see some of the things they wanted to work
on him with, Like they wanted to get him more
in zone. They wanted to make his misses more competitive.
(04:20):
They wanted to make his off speed stuff just generate
more chase, generate more, you know, miss more bats that way.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And the Spencer stuff is so good.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But when it's when he's missing as much as he
is command wise, guys just aren't gonna swing at it.
So look, this is all stuff they're gonna have to
reassess after the All Star War breaks or journey. The
All Star break, I should say that's am I and
Spencer Arighetti are not scheduled to pitch in Arlington, so
their first halfs are over. So you know, these are
things that they're gonna have to really look at coming
(04:52):
out of the break. You know, how do they want
to line this up? Where does it benefit these guys?
The most to be is Ronel Bla Uncle ready can
Hayden was Nesky? Is Ethan Peco at Triple A? Is
that a guy that they want to you know, roll
ice on see if they can catch lightning in a
bottle with him. He's been pitching very well down there.
They have a lot of questions to ask about this rotation,
(05:14):
and I'm not sure that they had any answers right now.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Chandler Rome of the Athletic governing the Astros and Major
League Baseball, joining us here as he does each and
every week, wrote a nice piece on Jordan Alvarez. For
those that haven't seen it, definitely check it out and
you can find it via Chandler's handle right there on
social media or via the Athletic itself at Chandler Underscore
Rome a little bit more about him rather than jord
(05:39):
on the baseball player, tell us a little bit about it.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, And I mean that was the whole goal going
into it, because I really don't think anyone knows anything
about this guy. I think everyone knows kind of how
they got him, right, like the trade with the Dodgers
and the Dodgers thinking they were asking for another Alvarez
and things like that. But I don't think anybody really
knows much about the guy. And I'm not sitting here
saying that I got his entire life story and I
(06:04):
poked and prodded and got all of his interests and
hobbies and what he does. But it's pretty clear that
he's a pretty simple guy, and that he's a guy
that really doesn't really enjoy the spotlight. He's almost and
I didn't write it this way because I thought it
would not come across well in print, But he's almost
an uncomfortable kind of superstar. Like it's almost like he
(06:24):
doesn't really want this. He doesn't want the spotlight. He
doesn't want the cameras on him. He doesn't want to
be the center of attention. He would rather that be
his teammates. He would rather that kind of be the
team itself. And that's a noble thing. And as Josh
Hater said in that story, you know, with a lost
art just in this day and age where you know,
everyone's bat flipping, everyone's got big chains, everyone's got a
(06:45):
big personality. You know, Jordan doesn't have that. He's he
likes to fish, he likes to hunt. He's just a
very simple guy. And I think that's, you know, something
that kind of peeling a layer back on him that
not a lot of people have seen. So that was
the intention going in. I'm glad it's gotten received a
little bit, but but yeah, that was the main rationale
behind it, was just kind of figure out who this
(07:06):
guy is. So, and then within it, obviously he said
he would like to stay with the Ashers for the
rest of his career, which I think is what everyone
is drawn to, and and that you know, he I
thought it was very interesting that he said he himself
approached team officials in the front office when all the
trade stuff was going on to basically say like, you're
not trading me, are you? And I think that gives
(07:27):
more validity to the thought that he does want to
be here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He wants to be here for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And obviously he's got two more years left on this
extension on this contract he's playing under, which given his production,
that contract he's playing on right now is highway robbery
and it's one of the more team friendly deals in
the league.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
His next contract will not be that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
His next con especially if he wins MVP this year,
especially if he keeps doing this, his contract, his next
contract will be the largest if if it is done
with the Astros, it will be the largest deal that
Jim Creen's ever given out in his ownership to And
it's gonna be another test for Jim Crane because this
is another guy, another he's not homegrown, but he's a
He's another guy that they have developed and a guy
(08:08):
that has gone out and said I want to stay
here for my whole career. Carlos Korea did it and
they didn't give him that money. Obviously they have him
back now and it's going to end up that way.
But there's been other guys that have said this that
they have not pointed up for And I wonder if
you wor and an Alvarez will be the guy that
changes that with.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It being two years out, because he's still under contract,
with the looming twenty twenty seven work stoppage, and with
all these unknowns there, could you even hazard a guess
at what an Astro's contract extension would look like.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I mean, I think we can all be adults here
and say it's gonna have to start with the two,
right like if the if the the largest contract in
franchise history is Josel two bays and it was six
years for one.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Hundred and fifty one million dollars, I think he's gonna
have to start with the two.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And look they've I mean, if I think they have
offered something like that in the past to other players
and it just hasn't They hadn't taken it, But I
think it will have to start with that. You know,
Jordan just turned twenty nine. He is in the prime
of his career. This is the prime of his career.
And if he wins MVP this year, or I mean
even if he doesn't win the award, if he just
keeps going on this pace, unlet's say he finished his
(09:17):
second or whatever, like, it's gonna have to start with
a two. You would think if it's something that he
wants to keep for the rest of his career, if
you want to stay here for the rest of his career,
you would think it's gonna be somewhere in the six
seven year range. And but again then you get into timing,
right do they do it next year during the season,
when there's one year left on this contract? Do they
(09:39):
wait and let him get the free agency when everyone
can bit on him. I think it's worth noting that
he is not represented by Scott Boris. I think this
all it always comes into play when you talk about
extensions and you talk about guys getting the free agency,
everyone asks, like, is Boris involved?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
He is not.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Jordan is not a Scott Boris client, So you don't
have to worry about that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But look, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Think this is a situation where he's just gonna take
the first time they offer him. I think it's gonna
have to be com measure with his value because wex.
I mean, you're a smart guy, like you look at
his you look at his contract right now, like I mean,
it's highway robbery that he is on a one hundred
and fifteen million dollar contract right now.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm given the production that he's put up unbelievably.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So got a little over a minute here if you
could try in that amount of time your thoughts about
working with or dealing with and covering Justin Verlander during
his time here in Houston, as he has announced this
will be his last year in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I really enjoyed my time covering Justin. He treated and
this is very inside baseball, but he treated the traveling
beat writers to three the three outlets that travel that
cover the ashers. He treated us extremely well. And I'll
forever be indebted to him for that was always accessible,
was always thoughtful. You know, I don't I don't think
(10:56):
a lot of people kind of saw that side of him.
He's very thoughtful guy. When you got him and when
you talk to him, very very cerebral, very pragmatic, really
an intelligent guy about the game. And then just watching
him pitch, I mean, watching what he did in twenty
twenty two, coming back from Tommy John to do what
he did, it was one of the more incredible things
I've ever witnessed, just first hand. And it was one
(11:18):
of those reasons why I kind of I mean, I
knew this day was gonna come right, that he was
going to retire, but you just I never kind of
made myself think it was going to happen, just because
he defied odds, defied father time, defied age for so long,
and after you watched him did what he did in
twenty twenty two, in twenty twenty three, he just kind
of thought, this guy's gonna pitch forever and just not
(11:40):
the case. Father time always wins. So a hell of
a career for Justin Berlander. A first ballot Hall of
Famer without a shadow of a doubt. And you know,
if you want my opinion, I think he is a
unanimous first ballot Hall of Famer
Our weekly guests. Chandler, Roma normally joins us on Friday,
is set to join us right now. Astros with an
off day today, three more games before the All Star break.
They are in Arlington for the Rangers Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
The Rangers are actually playing this evening before we get there,
but Chandler joins us now. As the Astros went through
Washington and ended up losing their second series of their
(00:22):
last three, They're starting pitching left a lot to be desired.
They only left town with two of the three starting
pitchers from that series. It seemed a long time coming, Chandler,
but the decision finally made to see if Mike Burrows
can figure things out while he's not hurting the major
league team. What do you think is truly next over
the next couple of weeks for Mike Burrows.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He's gonna slid into the triple A rotation, so it's
not as if they're sending into a bullpen or this
is like a reset sort of thing, like he's gonna
keep pitching. He's gonna keep pitching as a starter. I
think it just got to a point where there was
so much that they are trying to work on to
get him right, that it almost became impossible to do
(01:05):
it on a major league schedule, on trying to do
it while being a competitive starter for the major league team. So,
you know, the one thing that Mike Burrows has done
and did for his entire you know stent up here,
was he gave them length, right. I think he went
six innings and at least fifteen of seventeen starts. But
(01:28):
he wasn't able to do that on Monday in Washington
after being staked to a five run lead that didn't
help the cause. And then just the pure fact that
they were going to need an extra arm. And I
think they wanted an extra arm because they weren't gonna
need that spot in the rotation again, Like, I think
it made sense to do it when they did it,
just to give him a full break, give him a
(01:49):
full kind of reset, and see where they go. But
it's pretty clear he's gonna have to pitch better. He's
gonna have to pitch better in triple A. I'm not
sure they're going to look solely at results, but they're
gonna want to see a lot of the changes that
they've been trying to make with him kind of translate
into a little less pressure environment. But yeah, not the
outcome that Dana Brown or the Astros wanted for this
(02:12):
thing to go.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
This way.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
He goes four and a third, followed by three and
two thirds from Emai, followed by four innings from Spence Araghetty,
with the potential for other options being available, whether it's
Tavier Blanco, mccullor's junior or not long after maybe Hayden
was Nesky. Are those similar questions that have been asked
and now answered about Burrows needing to be asked and
(02:34):
potentially answered about Imai and Araghetty. Obviously they're both in
very different situations.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I mean, look, if Tess Emai wasn't making eighteen million
dollars and wasn't on a dke In commercial that airs
before every game at dyke In Park, and we probably
would be having a more serious conversation, right, Like I think,
if you look at his body of work, he's probably
more worthy of a minor league option of getting him
out of the rotation in some capacity. Because the thing
(03:04):
with Mike Burrows that you could like and I mentioned earlier,
the thing that you could rely on.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
With him was that he would get you deep into games.
He would get you into the fifth or sixth inning.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now he may allow three or four runs in the process,
but eating innings is valuable.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Tetsuya em I just just cannot do that.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Like you have no There is no semblance of consistency
with him in any fashion. You know, it's it's laborious
at best and it's terrible at worst. And you know, again,
if he wasn't on the contract he's on, if there
wasn't other extenuating circumstances, I think you'd be having a
pretty serious conversation about whether he should truly continue to
(03:44):
be in this rotation because he I know, Mike Burrows
has the era that's on sightly, and I know he's
thrown more innings, but Tetsuya Imai is the clear cut
weakest link of this rotation.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And it's not really close. You know, with Spencer Righetti.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
You know, he obviously, as everyone knows, he started the
year in triple A, and I think you're starting to
see why. I think you know a lot of people
that were very irate that he started in triple A
to begin the year. I think you're kind of starting
to see some of the things they wanted to work
on him with, Like they wanted to get him more
in zone. They wanted to make his misses more competitive.
(04:20):
They wanted to make his off speed stuff just generate
more chase, generate more, you know, miss more bats that way.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And the Spencer stuff is so good.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But when it's when he's missing as much as he
is command wise, guys just aren't gonna swing at it.
So look, this is all stuff they're gonna have to
reassess after the All Star War breaks or journey. The
All Star break, I should say that's am I and
Spencer Arighetti are not scheduled to pitch in Arlington, so
their first halfs are over. So you know, these are
things that they're gonna have to really look at coming
(04:52):
out of the break. You know, how do they want
to line this up? Where does it benefit these guys?
The most to be is Ronel Bla Uncle ready can
Hayden was Nesky? Is Ethan Peco at Triple A? Is
that a guy that they want to you know, roll
ice on see if they can catch lightning in a
bottle with him. He's been pitching very well down there.
They have a lot of questions to ask about this rotation,
(05:14):
and I'm not sure that they had any answers right now.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Chandler Rome of the Athletic governing the Astros and Major
League Baseball, joining us here as he does each and
every week, wrote a nice piece on Jordan Alvarez. For
those that haven't seen it, definitely check it out and
you can find it via Chandler's handle right there on
social media or via the Athletic itself at Chandler Underscore
Rome a little bit more about him rather than jord
(05:39):
on the baseball player, tell us a little bit about it.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, And I mean that was the whole goal going
into it, because I really don't think anyone knows anything
about this guy. I think everyone knows kind of how
they got him, right, like the trade with the Dodgers
and the Dodgers thinking they were asking for another Alvarez
and things like that. But I don't think anybody really
knows much about the guy. And I'm not sitting here
saying that I got his entire life story and I
(06:04):
poked and prodded and got all of his interests and
hobbies and what he does. But it's pretty clear that
he's a pretty simple guy, and that he's a guy
that really doesn't really enjoy the spotlight. He's almost and
I didn't write it this way because I thought it
would not come across well in print, But he's almost
an uncomfortable kind of superstar. Like it's almost like he
(06:24):
doesn't really want this. He doesn't want the spotlight. He
doesn't want the cameras on him. He doesn't want to
be the center of attention. He would rather that be
his teammates. He would rather that kind of be the
team itself. And that's a noble thing. And as Josh
Hater said in that story, you know, with a lost
art just in this day and age where you know,
everyone's bat flipping, everyone's got big chains, everyone's got a
(06:45):
big personality. You know, Jordan doesn't have that. He's he
likes to fish, he likes to hunt. He's just a
very simple guy. And I think that's, you know, something
that kind of peeling a layer back on him that
not a lot of people have seen. So that was
the intention going in. I'm glad it's gotten received a
little bit, but but yeah, that was the main rationale
behind it, was just kind of figure out who this
(07:06):
guy is. So, and then within it, obviously he said
he would like to stay with the Ashers for the
rest of his career, which I think is what everyone
is drawn to, and and that you know, he I
thought it was very interesting that he said he himself
approached team officials in the front office when all the
trade stuff was going on to basically say like, you're
not trading me, are you? And I think that gives
(07:27):
more validity to the thought that he does want to
be here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He wants to be here for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And obviously he's got two more years left on this
extension on this contract he's playing under, which given his production,
that contract he's playing on right now is highway robbery
and it's one of the more team friendly deals in
the league.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
His next contract will not be that.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
His next con especially if he wins MVP this year,
especially if he keeps doing this, his contract, his next
contract will be the largest if if it is done
with the Astros, it will be the largest deal that
Jim Creen's ever given out in his ownership to And
it's gonna be another test for Jim Crane because this
is another guy, another he's not homegrown, but he's a
He's another guy that they have developed and a guy
(08:08):
that has gone out and said I want to stay
here for my whole career. Carlos Korea did it and
they didn't give him that money. Obviously they have him
back now and it's going to end up that way.
But there's been other guys that have said this that
they have not pointed up for And I wonder if
you wor and an Alvarez will be the guy that
changes that with.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It being two years out, because he's still under contract,
with the looming twenty twenty seven work stoppage, and with
all these unknowns there, could you even hazard a guess
at what an Astro's contract extension would look like.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I mean, I think we can all be adults here
and say it's gonna have to start with the two,
right like if the if the the largest contract in
franchise history is Josel two bays and it was six
years for one.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Hundred and fifty one million dollars, I think he's gonna
have to start with the two.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And look they've I mean, if I think they have
offered something like that in the past to other players
and it just hasn't They hadn't taken it, But I
think it will have to start with that. You know,
Jordan just turned twenty nine. He is in the prime
of his career. This is the prime of his career.
And if he wins MVP this year, or I mean
even if he doesn't win the award, if he just
keeps going on this pace, unlet's say he finished his
(09:17):
second or whatever, like, it's gonna have to start with
a two. You would think if it's something that he
wants to keep for the rest of his career, if
you want to stay here for the rest of his career,
you would think it's gonna be somewhere in the six
seven year range. And but again then you get into timing,
right do they do it next year during the season,
when there's one year left on this contract? Do they
(09:39):
wait and let him get the free agency when everyone
can bit on him. I think it's worth noting that
he is not represented by Scott Boris. I think this
all it always comes into play when you talk about
extensions and you talk about guys getting the free agency,
everyone asks, like, is Boris involved?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
He is not.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Jordan is not a Scott Boris client, So you don't
have to worry about that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But look, I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Think this is a situation where he's just gonna take
the first time they offer him. I think it's gonna
have to be com measure with his value because wex.
I mean, you're a smart guy, like you look at
his you look at his contract right now, like I mean,
it's highway robbery that he is on a one hundred
and fifteen million dollar contract right now.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'm given the production that he's put up unbelievably.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So got a little over a minute here if you
could try in that amount of time your thoughts about
working with or dealing with and covering Justin Verlander during
his time here in Houston, as he has announced this
will be his last year in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I really enjoyed my time covering Justin. He treated and
this is very inside baseball, but he treated the traveling
beat writers to three the three outlets that travel that
cover the ashers. He treated us extremely well. And I'll
forever be indebted to him for that was always accessible,
was always thoughtful. You know, I don't I don't think
(10:56):
a lot of people kind of saw that side of him.
He's very thoughtful guy. When you got him and when
you talk to him, very very cerebral, very pragmatic, really
an intelligent guy about the game. And then just watching
him pitch, I mean, watching what he did in twenty
twenty two, coming back from Tommy John to do what
he did, it was one of the more incredible things
I've ever witnessed, just first hand. And it was one
(11:18):
of those reasons why I kind of I mean, I
knew this day was gonna come right, that he was
going to retire, but you just I never kind of
made myself think it was going to happen, just because
he defied odds, defied father time, defied age for so long,
and after you watched him did what he did in
twenty twenty two, in twenty twenty three, he just kind
of thought, this guy's gonna pitch forever and just not
(11:40):
the case. Father time always wins. So a hell of
a career for Justin Berlander. A first ballot Hall of
Famer without a shadow of a doubt. And you know,
if you want my opinion, I think he is a
unanimous first ballot Hall of Famer
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