More Astros Postmortem, NBA Playoffs, Dumb Draymond, Vrabel Cooked?

Thursday on The A-Team, Adam Clanton and Adam Wexler discuss the Astros' injury prediciment, weigh in on the NBA playoffs, react to Draymond Green's latest antics, and much more!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
On air in between show handoffs make them great again?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Just kidding.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I would never want people to hear what Matt Thomas
and us discussed between shows. That would be far too entertaining.
Welcome into a Thursday edition of the A Team. It
is Sports Talk seven ninety, soon to be simulcast over
on Space City Home Network or SCCHN. If you're nasty
on the app, I gotta tell you, we just did
not get enough commiserating in yesterday about the Houston Astros.

(00:30):
So we've got a full four hours to not only
talk about the state of affairs for your astros. We
will obviously delve into that specifically as it pertains to
the general manager who visits the station each and every week.
He was on earlier today, and obviously we'll hear what
some of what he has had to say about the

(00:52):
current state of affairs with this baseball team that seemingly
every day has somebody been on the IL today. I
know it's an off day. I know that's probably against.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, none of the astros were playing with their kids
that we know of, so they're fine.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's messed up, man, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
You're complaining about the Astros yesterday finding ways to get
hurt while playing baseball while a different team had a
pitcher get hurt playing with his kids.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
That's better than washing your monster truck.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, I don't think he lied about it and said,
I don't know what to tell these guys, but I'll
just tell him I was playing in the kitchen with
my kids and I hurt my back and I need surgery.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Do you ever think about what a miracle it was
that Barry Bonds and Jeff Cant were in the same
clubhouse from multiple seasons and no one died, including them
from killing each other.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yes, because inside the sports locker room slash clubhouses, if
you're good at what you do, no problem. I can
hate you, I can despise the human that you are.
I can think you're a not law abiding citizen. I
can think you're a wife beater. I can think you
drive drunk. But if you play well, I probably will

(01:57):
look past it. It's pretty much happened sports locker room
and over history, hasn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, No, for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
For the beginning of that sentence, I thought you were
going in a completely different direction. I thought you were
gonna say, if you're good at something, never do it
for free. But you've never seen The Dark Knight. To
the best of my knowledge, I don't think you have.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Anyway, Oh, I'm sure I've seen that one. Keith Ledger
uh as the Joker. Well, why would you do that?
It's the Dark Knight. These are Batman movies. But the
name of it was The Dark Knight, and that's not
the Joker.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
It is it is? Oh no, it's not the Joker.
You're right, but that is the Joker film. Because the
Dark Knight Rises is the bane one, the Dark They're
all Batman movies. The first one's Batman Begins.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
All of them are Batman movies unless they're called The Joker.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You call them Batman one, two and three. Is that
what you say?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, but you're saying, Heath Ledger, Why don't you tell
me which Batman it was?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Because they kept changing over and over again.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It was Christian Bale each time, exactly. I have seen
The Dark Knight. Okay, I think that was an in
flight movie. Watch one time.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Good for you.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, used a lot of John Wicks and Batman movies
over the last recent years, usually in the kit in
the in the library of choices.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well, you've got to have long enough flight to get
through some of those because they're very lengthy. Uh yeah,
definitely the case. I mean, you gotta get a lot
of lines in from leave Texas, you're pretty much good
to go. Sure, half the trip was getting across the state,
all right. So, yeah, the Astros yesterday getting shell acted
by the Dodgers. You can't get hurt by the Astros

(03:24):
today because they don't play and then they're going to
play three games in Cincinnati again. Suddenly, of course a
good Reds team, well, quite the opposite. Now they're great,
they are not great.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
They are awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
They do have twenty wins, but this week they hate winning.
They're already riding a six game losing streak. They've actually
lost four consecutive one run games.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, I've got good news for them. The Astros are
coming to town.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, they're down one run currently to the Chicago Cubs,
who are the complete opposite. They're one of the hottest
teams in baseball. But yes, three games against the Reds
starting Friday begins another stretch of how are the Astros
going to make it through it? They won't have another
off day until they've played thirteen consecutive days of baseball
and this has been an issue for them quite obviously,

(04:08):
their pitching staff is not very successful. Yesterday's game as
one that we have seen many times over. Lance mccullor's
describing it afterwards, not using it as an excuse but
more of a fact, became very different game for him.
He did look good for two innings, and he did
look awful in the third of those three innings he

(04:30):
pitched in, and in that third inning he had nine
working fingers and nails, and that was a problem for him,
and it was pretty obvious as he stopped throwing strikes,
he continued throwing wild pitches. He continued to be unable
to get guys off the bases unless they took themselves
off the bases by hitting a home run. And that's
an issue for this team because it also didn't get

(04:51):
any better after that.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
They scored six runs off Lance.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
They scored six runs over the final six innings to
put twelve on the board against the Astros. Scored twenty
runs in their two wins against the Astros in Game
one in Game three, and look what happened. When you
pitch well, you won. You can beat anybody in baseball
when you pitch well and it's just a little bit
too few and far between for the Astros. Currently, one
of their good two starters is scheduled to pitch in

(05:14):
the series against Cincinnati that comes Saturday, when Spencer Aragedti
gets the ball. He's gotten the ball four times and
they've won all four of those times. They've only won
eleven other games all season, so hopefully he can continue
doing that, because you just never know what you're gonna
get during the other games. We will see where things
stand with tatsu Emi because he will pitch for the
Astros the next time he goes out there, and we'll

(05:36):
hear Dana Brown on that decision to have him take
his two very unsuccessful rehab appearances and turn that into
we're putting you on the active roster sometime next week.
It obviously will necessitate a roster move. I think most
people would be hopeful they don't have to make any
others between now and then. They do not have a
listed starter for Sunday's game yet, I'm guessing that will

(05:59):
be a coding ball said that this year, Well, it's
only really really bad when it's the night before and
you're playing in the game and they don't you have.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
To go through.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Hey, Joe, it was another day where you had to
get try to get three innings out of so and
so it's another day where you just couldn't get it
done anything else. Yeah, who's starting tomorrow? And then he'll say,
here's our plan for tomorrow. It's been a really, really
unfortunate start. Is it is almost hard to believe just
from a record standpoint, they have started more poorly than

(06:29):
this in recent years. Just strictly from a win loss standpoint.
They have fifteen wins through thirty six games. A couple
of seasons ago they had twelve. They were twelve and
twenty four through thirty eight games. They're fifteen and twenty three.
It's not a lot better. It's just statistically better, though,
quite obviously. And yet I'm sure most everybody, including myself,
I imagine most of our listeners felt much better that year

(06:50):
because you couldn't figure why can't these guys win. There's
no debate necessary here, there's no questions of I can't
understand why they're walking back into the clubhouse every day
with an l It's clear as day. And that's the
problem with where they are, not just their record of
fifteen and twenty three, which is tied for the worst
mark in there. We don't have any teams with winning

(07:11):
records division. It's why will this change? What has to
change in order for them to you know, put this
season back on a little bit better course with more
than enough time to do it. Like we were talking
the other day about if you're going to make the playoffs,
you need eighty six eighty seven wins even just to
win the division. That's only ten or twelve games over
five hundred. Well you're eight games under, so that's eighteen

(07:33):
or twenty games over five hundred between today and then.
That's kind of hard to believe the Astros are going
to put together baseball like that. But do you really
have to win eighty seven games?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Maybe? How about if you win eighty two games?

Speaker 3 (07:46):
How about if you go eighty two and eighty that
would be better than any team is currently on pace
to do in their division.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
And I said that yesterday, like it's crazy that, Like
I mentioned the Detroit Tigers even over five hundred and
they're in first place.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I just like people posting a picture, they trot it
out there after their last signing to put the last
piece together of their their rotation for this year when
Fromber and others had been introduced. It's a picture of
Fromber and Casey, Mize and Flaherty and Verlander and Scubable
and then those that posted it yesterday were able to
say suspended, ineffective, injured, injured, injured.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, well injured and old would have done. Three of
them are on the injured list. Yeah, and nobody cares.
Because there's the thing is, how many more wins than
the Astros do? They have four three's, and yet they're
in first place.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I guess that is I can't say your name.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
If your name isn't the New York Yankees or the
Tampa Bay Rays. Essentially, you're in a twenty way tie
for mediocrity right now.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yesterday's activity should be taken into account. They're in second place.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Now, okay, good for whatever crappy team was right behind them.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
The team that the Astros handled earlier this year.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
They handled the Guardians handled them. It's good, listen. We
are going to and I will get into this, we
are going to absolutely miss lamenting injuries and poor to
mediocre at best baseball and personnel decisions that did or
did not go well, and everything else that has made

(09:31):
up this wonderful cornucopia of twenty twenty six Houston Astros
next year when there's no baseball whatsoever. Seriously, May seventh
and twenty twenty seven, what are we talking about? What
leads the show? I hope it's the Rocket still playing
in the postseason. God forbid, they're out in the first round.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Again.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
We are screwed. Man, it's gonna be awful. Last dance
isn't walking through that door? On Netflix? There better be
some awesome sports documentary because the radio again, you.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Might be one sport down baseball and during the COVID
era eighteen.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
All of the sports, all of the everything is down.
Everything that's not true. There were still politicians getting their haircut.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
What what did we say to each other every day
when we left the show?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Where are you going to eat? Oh? Never mind, I
can't even remember going to the grocery. You're going to
hang out with? Just kidding? You act like we lived
in New York.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
There's nothing to do, basically open because everybody was like,
you're not keeping us in our house.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I mean you could get to you could get it
to go. I'd be happy to do that for you.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
I think we ordered more uber delivered by another human
during COVID than at any point in our lives.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Oh, that sets close enough, right there on the grass
by the numbers, on the street, by the curb, where
it says what at the address is. Don't be coming
up the sidewalk all the way to the door and
handing it to him.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Your father is a former pediatrician, he was a medical professional.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
At what point did he look to you because you
had a conversation about this, because you guys talk about
these kinds of things so much, obviously very long coming,
and they say, how stupid are these people in our
government to say, hey, if you just stand six feet apart,
the disease can't get to you.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Put on a stupid mask too, that'll help.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
You're acting like he didn't wear one. I wore one.
He wore one.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I know.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I wasn't taking a shot at you so much as
people that made you do it. All right, not a
huge deal, I'm here obligatory. Ess it worked that Why
otherwise you'd be in dead place?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, it's probably gonna be okay. Well exactly, I've even
had it for all I know, you did probably more
than once, and here we are. Okay, obligatory Astros conversation
and so much more.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh, by the way, you guys will love Best of
X today, especially if you're a Rockets fan for many reasons.
That's coming up this hour. As we mentioned, we'll have
the replay of Dana Brown, actually multiple replays of Dana
Brown NBA playoffs, and yes, Dirty Diana, the story that
will never ever go until she does and he does.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
That's also going to be covered today.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
The latest on the Mike Vrabel Diana Russini affair.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
To remember.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Also on a Thursday edition of the program.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
The a te on Sports Talk seven ninety Your attention
please now, Betting number twenty seven. Jeff Bagwell, oh wait,
this was Jeff Blummer.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Sorry, yeah, Bagwell, use Metallica right and war number five. Yeah,
I know that I just had the wrong Jeff, let's
say spell it differently before we get to the current
rendition of the Astros. I'm gonna use this opportunity to
vent a little bit and I'm going to offend some people,
so we'll just get that out of the way at the.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Beginning of the show.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, you're always offended by what I'm saying, it's fine,
I'm used to it. It's occupational hazard. I was taking
a left today off of the Iten feeder to a
side street. I was going over to men's t clinic.
I highly recommend going to the Heights location, like I
do each and every Thursday. Now, sometimes the light backs

(13:11):
up right there in front of it. It's right there
at Iten and I forgot the cross street, but I'll
figure it out later.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I'll tell you guys. But there was.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
An older lady behind the wheel, a veteran driver. That's
a great way to put it. She was a salty vet.
She had a.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'd say smaller size SUV.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
She had a stop sign as she was trying to
get onto the feeder and I was trying to turn
right onto the street that she was.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Not sharing at all with her vehicle.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Now, again, she could have made an adjustment, and at
the last second she really did, when it was already
too late and I had already done.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
What happened.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
This was an area where there's a trench on either
side of the street. Okay, so if you don't like
turn and use all the pavement, part of your vehicle
is gonna go in that trench. There's no like kind
of making it. You either make it and all four
tires are on the road, or your right passenger rear
tire goes into the trench because the old lady wouldn't

(14:17):
move her vehicle out of the way. Fortunately, I drive
a vehicle where I just kind of laughed it off.
But here's what I'm Here's where I'm gonna offend everybody.
There needs to be a federally mandated age in this
country where that's it.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
You're done driving. Sorry, we take your license. It's over.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I don't care if you're still more cognizant than this
person at this And by the way, I will apply
this to me absolutely. I'm not a hypocrite here. So
what is that age? Go sixty five seventy? No, you
should not be driving at a certain age.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
If you're capable, then you should be. He's not capable
of driving to your liking.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It's not about my liking.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Get to point A from point A to point B.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
He sure did. There you go?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know why using both lanes? What would patients have
done for you? Assisted a little bit a little I'm
gonna have to take a little.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Extra time here, effing serious right now? This is now
my fault. You're the victim blamer. That's what you do.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
You didn't do it. I was a victim of.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Her bad driving, and you're sticking up for her because
you like to argue about everything. If this had been
the other way around, I'm only like, you know what,
he's not very patient. He's kind of a hot head.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
What do you do on the day that you turn
this mystery age of getting your license taken away?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
You go to down to the den you're not allowed to.
You would be driving illegally with the person who drives you.
You didn't let me finish the sentence, and you.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Hand it in.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
How do you know this person of too old of
an age has someone to drive them there? That's why
they're still driving. Because they're people are complaining about the
job economy. Come on, I'm not on board with that.
There are jobs that we had a simple as that
why because that's not what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
With my paternal grandmother. May she rest flow, Joe love Florine.
We were in the car with her one time and
we got home and they had one of those what
do they call them? What's the fancy word portocochet the overhang,
you know, at their house, their retirement home.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
It was so my grandfather could just park, get out
and go in the front door one the garage guy apparently,
and uh she comes home and they had decorative like
stone potted plants on either side of the door. She
calmly pulls into the driveway. She drove a buick car.
I know, stop stereotyping. You're so mean. See you can

(16:32):
do it too, she calmly. But it wasn't a sedan,
it was a boat. She calmly pulls into the driveway, takes.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Out one of the pots, move the pot by the
front door, create more space.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
And gets out and walks in like nothing happened. And
my mom and I are in the car with her
looking at each other like did you see that?

Speaker 6 (16:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
In certain ways, nothing did happen. Well, that's when we
didn't want her to be driving that pot. Nah, are
you going to get the car fixed if there's a
scratch on it?

Speaker 2 (17:02):
No, So what happened? Nothing?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
See, you're that person, says, better the pot than a human.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well, why would the human be standing there? Can't you
just move out.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Of the way.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Why can't you just be emotional sometimes be a litt
less than place that you've been many many times?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Who was it? I don't know the person? Oh you
weren't related to this one.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
No, just driving along and wondering, maybe even saying it
aloud in a car that doesn't have any other people
in it, What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (17:31):
I might do that all the time with people of
all ages. I've seen it. This is why you don't
like driving.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
So I'm not discriminating. I'm not trying to tell people
that you can't drive. I mean I'm saying that literally
to everybody.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Can I reveal to the audience market visual?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
My most favorite line while I'm driving out loud, whether
or not be doing? Don't you want to get somewhere?
You're in the car? Why don't you want to get
to where you're going?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You say that? Yes? How many times a week would
you say? You say that? More? Twenty, more, thirty? More?
Is this city like? People aren't out for a drive.
It's not fun. You're driving because you have somewhere. Driving
in this city it's fun.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Ever, you're you have an intended destination. Oftentimes that destination
requires you to be there by a certain time. Why
are in front of me? Why are you trying to
get there? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yes? I wonder that a lot nowhere to go and
all day to get there? Right here?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, good segment, good stuff. We got a couple more
minutes more of this.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yes, because this is what I need to know from you.
I don't. I think that's a little arbitrary.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Why because not everybody, Like, fifty three year old people
aren't all the same. Sixty three year old people aren't
all the same, seventy three year old people aren't all
the same.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, eighteen year old people aren't all the same. But
that's the magical age when you can vote. I think
what you're really just looking at. Everybody should vote. There's
a controversial take you're you're just looking for. Let's go
ahead and continue getting drivers tests as certain ages are
eclipsed to make sure that everything's cool. I'm looking something
more like that. That's what you're looking for. I'm looking

(19:03):
for a hard cap. You're cut off. You're eighty six,
as they say on Instagram. Okay, so it's age eighty six. No,
I didn't say that, although that would probably be a
good age to not be driving around.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Eighty six is a is a weight staff term.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, according to people who don't want to I'm want.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
To get an old timer with cheese eighty six to
the onions And that's what they write on their pace.
They had to write it out and it wasn't all
automated and they could just punch it up and bring
it over to you. And it's extremely tiny. Nobody can
read this font. They actually had to write it down
on their soon to be receipt old timer w slash

(19:43):
CHZ eighty six zero no onions.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
What's worse? Uh, salty veteran drivers who can't do it?
Or Draymond green talking about stuff he knows has no
clue about on national.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, what's what's the cap?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Like, we've talked about Draymond green Ton lately because this
team doesn't make the playoffs very often, so him being
on television is kind of a regular thing.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's an annual thing.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
And I'm sure when they finish with him, whatever edition
of Inside the NBA this year is his last appearance
on the show. I can't wait for Kenny and Charles,
hopefully Shack as well and even Ernie to say we'll
see you same time next year that would be they
we'll absolutely do it. So some of that went on
last night during the programming. It was a night where

(20:29):
the inside the NBA cru Sands shack, although his feet
were there, were on television to cover the game. Twos
in both the East and the West that were on
tap last night. One a very close, super competitive, highly
exciting game and the other absolute slacking that was over
long before halftime. But they had other things to discuss
and that's why they land on best of X next.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Halfway through. Our number one.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
On a normally scheduled day like today is weitch with
the best of X loads to choose from, quite obviously,
and we led you into it with a little bit
of NBA chatter last night, after the Sixers and Celtics
got together, Sixers and Knicks got together very very very competitive,
highly entertaining game that ultimately the Knicks were able to

(21:18):
win and take a two games to none lead in
that series. And then after the San Antonio Spurs went
on a wild run to close out the first half.
It was already a lopsided game, but they put it
away at the end of the first half with a
killer run about five dunks in a Row and then
blew out the Minnesota Timberwolves. After that, we got a
lot of conversation from the inside the NBA crew again

(21:40):
over on the Worldwide Leader Now No Shack last night,
Raymond Green sitting in with Ernie Kenny and the Chuckster.
So a common visitor to this set and usually during
the offseason. Yeah, four times in the last seven years
he's been available having not made the playoffs with the
Golden State Warriors and Ice in the last three seasons

(22:01):
having not made the playoffs. So he was again available
here in late April or now early May to spread
the information. He's got lots of it. Well, he actually
just has a lot to say. He hols his own
podcast and talks a lot there, so he's got a
bunch of stuff to talk about. And we heard from
him earlier this week, like you just mentioned, when Austin
Rivers was dropping the hammer and all sorts of good stuff.

(22:24):
This was just the inside the NBA crew, and conversation
turned to his team. There are a lot of question
marks about their future, starting I suppose with their head coach.
He was pretty noncommittal about whether or not he would
be participating in anything next year.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
With the Golden State Warriors, and.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
He has since met with the front office, but really
no determination has been made about his future. Some of
the things that wrangled Austin Rivers the same conversation, Draymond
Green said things about his coach, like, while he was
super complimentary of him, and he's done so much for
my career, don't forget that I said that, And don't
just pull out that tiny little quote where I said

(23:01):
he held me back offensively, which he said all those things.
So all this stuff was part of the conversation that
they were having last night, and Charles and Kenny and Ernie,
I think were kind of pushing him in the same direction,
the one that we've been pushing the Golden State Warriors in.
You can go out and get Jimmy Butler, you can
go out and get an even older Al Horford, and

(23:21):
you can put together your roster where the players you
count on the most are all thirteen, fourteen, sixteen, eighteen
years into their career. But don't worry. You brought in
Kristaps Porzingis, who's always on the court to help you out. Yeah,
things are gonna be great. You guys are definitely gonna
win and in the future, you're probably gonna win even more.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
By the way, real quickly, it wasn't just that they
brought in Kristaps Porzingis. It's that they brought him in
after pivoting to that decision from trying to get Yannis.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
That should always be put out there.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, I honestly wish they had gotten Yannis because they
would be even more sunk than they probably are, which
nose as well nowhere to go. Nonetheless, the conversation turned
to the future of the works and Charles as usual,
right to the point and rather blunt, but things turned
very quickly back on Charles, or so Draymond thought.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
Nobody wins when eight that you said what you said,
I didn't want to hear if he believe what you're talking.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
I think the goal is just to not look like
you in the Houston Rockets uniform.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
Yeah, as ultimately a goal for us, like we don't
want to.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
What does that look like? Did you see it? I'm
just asking I saw it.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
That was Kenny trying to have Draymond actually explain what
he meant, because as nearly like Twitter's a funny place,
especially since it's now called X, very infrequently does something
get put out there and there's not people on both sides,
or a lot of people on both sides. There weren't
very many people not all together on this because drama.

(24:57):
Did you see it? The question now is clear, you
did not see it. I don't want it to be
Charles Barkley in a Rocket's uniform, and many, pretty much
everybody on social media came to Charles's defense and basically
saying Draymond, once again, you don't know what.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You're talking about.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, here's the thing, and I'm not saying that you
can't go back in time, but there is a difference
between watching someone play and being cognizant of it and
then going back and reading stat boxes, seeing YouTube highlights
on and on on I e. What bron fanboys do
all the time with Michael Jordan. They're stupid because they're ignorant.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
It seems pretty obvious that Draymond has no idea what
the Leaning Tower of Pizza was doing while he was
in Houston. The bread truck was still getting it done
here in the age.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
On Are you on Basketball Reference again? Yeah? You and
I know this.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
When he was here in Houston, the Crisco Kidd was
taking care of business.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Keep going.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I'll let you know when you get warm as to
something that was actually used and not something completely made up.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
So who Rudy was coaching and Scotty was a teammate.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Eventually Clyde was first. Clyde's bringing the ball up.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
He's got someone coming down side, He's drawn the defense
and he gets into the good time blimp.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
And Barkley finishes.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
No, never ever, ever was used because it didn't exist.
Love Boat, Nope, food World No, sure, I'm positive. Okay
if you take that, no one said and at power
forward for the Houston Rockets, food.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
World, the Prince of Pizza, Charles Barkley.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
No, not even a little now.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Again, going back to my original point, Draymond Green was
born in nineteen ninety That means when the Rockets traded
away the core of their championship era for a broken
down Charles Barkley, who was also fat that he was
six years old in August of nineteen ninety six when
that trade went down. That means, shut up, you didn't

(26:54):
see it. You are so woefully onified to talk about this.
It's insane.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, if you want to compare Barkley's later in his
career to any point in Draymond's career. Obviously it's a
no contest, but that's not really even the point. The
point is, how did Charles Barkley look in a Rockets
uniform ages thirty three through thirty six back last four
years of his career. The very last year of his
career was obviously cut short because of a catastrophic injury
that essentially ended his career. But many, many, many people

(27:20):
both here in Houston elsewhere nationally football people, you name it.
If you have a social media account, specifically on the
X platform, you were saying, check that.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Good an All Star in year one with Houston, you know,
drop good All Star.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Like he was second to Rodman and rebounding basically every
year until the last year in Houston. People forget that
because Rodman was killing it on the boards at like
eighteen per Charles was like fourteen behind.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Charles led the league in rebounding once in his career
in Philadelphia when he was in a third year at
fourteen point six. The second best per game average rebounding
for Charles in his career came that first season in Houston,
three year old.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
He rebounds in his first game as a Rocket. Let
me know the next time Draymond grabs twenty in a game.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Again, Comparing the two of them is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's what he did by saying, just don't want to
look like you in a Rockets uniform. If you wanted
to say you don't want to look like Charles Barkley
in a Rockets uniform because they were god awful uniforms,
that would be okay.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Everything else you sound like a jackass.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
You think maybe that's what he's going to come out
today on his money podcast.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
And say that's what he actually meant.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
You mean, when he gets done bringing himself out of
that body bag Austin Rivers putting him in two days
before this?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Did you see the remainder of the program when they
were trying to remember Charles couldn't remember what the stat
was with James Harden because it was all over the
interwebs this week. He's had how many games in the
postseason where he's had more turnovers than field goals made?
And it lasted like ten minutes because he kept trying
to get the numbers right, and this, that and the other,
and so they obviously have a stats person on the

(28:58):
crew among their pas et cetera. And so after they
finally figured out what it was, and the at this
long com oh, he has the ball all the time.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Of course he's gonna have turnovers.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Well, they needed to make shots, and they said to
drama on, well, how many shots do you think he
makes a playoff game? How many would you expect him
to make? He has the ball all the time. So
you're saying, he's I don't know, eight to ten, eight
to twelve exactly, So how's he having all these games
with more turnovers than that? And then the PA came
back with will you actually hold the record for most
postseason games with more turnovers than field goals? Draymond, You're

(29:28):
tied for first oops with Kendrick Perkins.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
As Jen once said on the office.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
By the way, Andy Bailey of bleacher Report, And this
is just one example. Charles Barkley in his four seasons
is a rocket sixteen and a half points, twelve point
two rebounds, nearly four assists, four point zero box plus
slash minus. Draymond Green's last four seasons eight point six points,
six and a half rebounds, six assists, even point five

(29:56):
box plus minus. He's nowhere near Charles Barkley.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
The Rocket from for ten years, probably from about eighty
six to ninety six, all but this rookie year in Philadelphia.
All through his entire time in Phoenix, Charles was the
best player on his team in the number one option
right m hmm, with kJ and anybody else he played
with in Afhilly at that time of their in.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
His career, Jeff one a second.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
At no point during his Rockets career was he the
best player.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Right, and some would argue not even the second best player.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Exactly the quantity of his activity, his shots et cetera
was clearly going to go down.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
His focus was on rebounding and not playing the defense.
Didn't show down bad three pointers, just like Draymond does
all the time.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
His highest average rebounds per game with one of the
three teams he played for was with Houston.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You want the end of his career, You want to
hear my impression of Gene Peterson calling a Charles Barkley
possession back and back and the end I got a
cramp in my leg.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
It's been pretty fun this week watching people discovered, or
make sure everybody else has discovered, that he's just he
runs his mouth, and that doesn't really seem to occur
to him.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
What he's saying is this ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Is they already have somebody who's going to soon be
overweight on the set, although he's lost a lot of weight,
but he will be. He's going to get fat.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
He'll be fine. He's going to get fat. He's not retiring.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
He's not committed to staying with the Warriors necessarily, but
who is at this point, because they were all saying,
if you ever want to win again, you need to
go somewhere else. If Steph ever wants to win again,
he needs to go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I don't know if they're playing on adding him permanently
to this set, it would be a bad decision. But
somebody's going to hire him, I think, to do tav
There are more outlets now, unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Honestly, the.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
NBA on Prime Crew, Eudonnis, Dirk, Nash, Blake are most
of the guys we normally see there.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
I wouldn't touch that. I'd leave all those guys right
where they are.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
My favorite is when you have guys like Carmelo and
Trey McGrady.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yellow Vince Tracy or the NBC crew.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Telling you how you should do this to get out
of the second round of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
That's pretty nice.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Oh my gosh, you know that Carmelo has one of
the worst winning percentages in the postseason history.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
He didn't have a lot of success. Oh well, former
rocket legend.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I mean, KG was exactly that until he got to Boston.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And he can start bullying people.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
You have eight years in Minnesota and the only year
he advanced, the only one time.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Was when Sam Cassell joined him, exactly among others. He's
a choke. He's a coach choker, all right?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
When we come back, an update on how soon until
Hunter Brown returns? Can the Astros keep it together until then?
Dana Brown right around the corner. Here, my Eddie Vedder impression.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Here, that's it, all right, intelligible garbling, Well, don't get
me started on yellow ledbetter have no idea what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Great song, though, really like it? Okay, which aspect of
quickly rapidly becoming the most disappointing Astros season in the
last thirty years.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Would you like to tackle first? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
The pitching, I mean, that's what's driving the whole season. Honestly,
the injuries are a huge part of it. But there's
still a lot of guys pitching for the Astros that
are not pitching well that we knew we're going to
be pitching for the Astros. It's not all about all
these who are these guys. Their offense is fine, could
be better, it could be worse, but it's fine.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
No, hey, listen through May seventh, I don't even know
the numbers, and I feel confident saying this.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
You know you're the numbers guy on the show. Their
offense is better than last season.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
It's pretty getting pretty close now. Unfortunately they're kind of
slowing down a little bit. Maybe this trip to the
greatest American Ballpark, Queen City, that will will help out
a little bit, especially with the falling as fast as
anybody in baseball Cincinnati Reds. I mentioned they were in
a one run game earlier. They're now in an eight
run game. They're facing maybe the best that the Cubs

(34:02):
have to offer and Emanaga and he has kept them
scoreless through five while the Cubs have posted eight. And
it would have the Reds riding a seven game losing
streak into tomorrow if that score holds.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Well, I hope that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Actually I don't know anymore, and I kind of I
want to get to this in the next segment more
than anything, so we'll just we'll get to Dana Brown here.
But I'm I'm rapidly approaching that place where some hard
decisions need to be at least discussed, if not made.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Well.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
The hard decisions the Astros need to figure out are
do they want to make a change heading into an
uncertain twenty twenty seven If you're I mean, you don't
have to hire anybody permanently, I suppose, and you could, yes,
just say goodbye to your manager or your general manager.
I don't really see the reason to The only reason
you'd say goodbye to your manager, Joe Aspota is if

(34:56):
you think it's just magic, like what's happening Philadelphia. Philadelphia
started winning baseball games when they got rid of Thompson.
He wasn't the reason they're losing, and the new manager
is not the reason they're winning. It does obviously kick
your players in the backside. The way we've played baseball
cost our very very good manager his job, and in

(35:17):
Philadelphia that would be the case. He's managed his team
into the World Series in Boston. That was also the
case he managed his team into winning the World Series.
They're good managers. The reason that they got fired is
because the players were playing bad baseball. And that's what's
happening here in Houston, some due to injury, and you're
taxing a roster way beyond the twenty six, twenty eight,
forty forty five even more so, that's all part of it.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
What's Joe doing wrong?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
And I know he doesn't have their respective resumes, but
you could also look at it and say, look, I
know it's not his fault. I know whose fault it is,
and we need to get more out of these players,
and I hope that this change. And you would assume
that if they do that, they're just promoting from within
for the next four months and telling Omar Lopez to
run the team, because I do maybe think there's an

(36:01):
element of, well, I'm not you're not gonna hire a
long term manager in season anyway, but you're definitely not
gonna be hiring a long term manager when you're going
into a season where I mean, are the twenty seven
twenty four teams that have managers whose contracts run through
twenty twenty seven? I guess they gotta pay him even
if there's no baseball, right, they're not a part of

(36:21):
the players union, they're not being locked out. They're part
of the team, so they'll be paid. Well, if you
don't have a manager, you're not paying a manager.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
And the same obviously could be true with Dana Brown.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
They're both going into a time in their careers where
they don't have a job security. But I mentioned Hunter
Brown's return, and that was one of the things discussed
this morning with Dana Brown, the general manager of the
Houston Astros. I expect to throw a bullpen this weekend.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
So then what and once.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
He gets to throw his bullpens, you know, we'll get
him going.

Speaker 6 (36:51):
We'll get him built up.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
He'll go through his regular spring training because you have
to redo that again, you know, because he's been out
for so long, so he has to go through a
full spring training to get him built up. And you know, hopefully,
you know, we get him. We'll circle back in early
June as to some discussions as to when he's going
to actually total rubber and at the major league level.

(37:14):
But certainly he's moving in the right direction. He feels
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
You just wonder if they would put him on the
active roster if everything goes well, even if he's kind
of starting the season on a pitch count. You remember
the opener against the Angels. He did throw a lot
of pitches, probably maybe more than you would have expected
right out of the gate. But he was also super
hot during the exhibition season and that was discussed, so

(37:38):
maybe it's a little bit different scenario. But a bullpen
this weekend, probably another one after that to live VP
to rehab appearances, all of which should take place over
the next three weeks. How many of rehab appearances needed
to get him ramped up to where he can actually
start and give you length in a major league game
is what would be left on this. But we're a
good four weeks from any kind of real result or

(37:59):
real end game with Hunter Brown. Just as Dana said,
you know, kind of circle back again here in a
month at the beginning of June. We're one week into May,
so during the opening week of June that probably would
have a pretty good idea, would know that there haven't
been any setbacks, hopefully would know where he is in
terms of capable. He would have been on rehab appearances
at that point and they are also going to probably
be very concerned about where is the team at this point.

(38:21):
The team right now is in Cincinnati, and they are
eight games under five hundred, not where they want to
be thirty eight games into the season. We'll kick off
the three o'clock hour with some serious discussion about the
actual team, not the manager, not the general manager, but
the players in uniform and whose uniforms should they be
wearing the rest of the season, the ones they're currently
wearing or others.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
That's next.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
In the great City of Houston, Texas, despite its drivers
Sports SOX seven to ninety SCN simulcast is underway. He's
wex I Mac. Josh Jordan is our producer. As we
are taking up until six o'clock tonight. Had a little
bit of everything in the first hour. We obviously went
back over the wonder that is the Houston Astro season

(39:07):
here in twenty twenty six, the amount of injuries, the
amount of losses that have piled up, and the fact
that the irresistible force is going to meet the immovable
object when they start this series in Cincinnati since the
Reds suddenly can't win at all. Well, he looked like
you were about to say something quick. Look how he
reached for that on button on that microphone. The segment

(39:30):
has begun. I'm making sure my mic is on. And
then obviously we talked a little bit about Draymond Green
putting his foot in his mouth for the latest time
last night. Oh yeah, and I went on a rant
about drivers in this city, especially ones of the older variety.
Ryan enjoyed that this driving bit has me dying.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Lol. All I can think of is this with the posts.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
They were cones, this driving bit. It wasn't even a
bit life I got. I got an idea for a bit.
Let me run it by, like the.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Next time we do a bit will be the first time.
I just it's what it sounded like.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I'd be author I be authentic. Also, Vic was wondering
if we were going to play that audio on Charles
Barkley and Draymond Green, but he tweeted that, I want
to say, like five seconds before we actually played it.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
So hopefully you're listening.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
There's a lot of setup to get to the short
clip that I played for you.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I hopefully you guys heard that good stuff from the
inside the NBA crew. The gift that keeps on giving
and again mentioned that Dana Brown made his weekly visit
on the station earlier today, you know who didn't make
a visit on the station. And we'll hear from Dana
a little bit more as the show goes on. But
Aj Persenski, Now, if you had told me back in

(40:41):
two thousand and five, specifically, say late October of that year,
that one day I would be as huge of a
fan of Aj Persenski as I am currently, because we've
had him on the show before it he was great.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
The just glad to hear you're a huge fan.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Why did you doubt it?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
No, I'm just glad to hear you're a huge fan
and want to hear from Aj today saying stuff that
all of our listeners have heard us say at nauseum
since the season began.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I gotta let you guys in on a little something.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
If we have said something on the show at any point, Yeah,
because we cover the team and then someone else says
it and I play the audio, Wex will want to
internally combust.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's just how he is.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Well, luckily we're on TV, so you'll see if I
make it. Let's see if Wex makes it. As we
play something said by aj Perzinski that Wex has already
said before today a thousand times.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
Everyone's gonna look at Joe spot and Joe Spotter should
lose his job. Not Joe Spotter's fault.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I just said that last segment. Let's keep going. Let's
see if I could parse this out.

Speaker 9 (41:40):
They have fifteen guys on the IL and someone's fault.
I don't know who, but you know, it's like the
last couple of years, they've just been hit by an
injury injury, injury injury. Joe's actually get a nice job
of keeping him in contention last year. This year, I
don't think he's going to be able to do it
with the names we've listed to starting pitchings in shambles.
You can now make the postseason if you are last
in the league and e r A and you have one.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Said that it's just not gonna a thousand times.

Speaker 9 (42:06):
And you have a one point six whip.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Too many base runners.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Don't get guys out, can't get out of innings, can't
make that okay, three two bases loda, I can't walk
another player. There's two outs in the n If I
make this pitch boom, we're out of here. And we're
in okay shape. Yesterday, it's a three to one game
and he's pitching the pajz Lances full count. You get
him the innings over, it's a three to one game.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Did he get him? He?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
No, he got got, He got got and it went
over the fence. By the way, he wasn't wondering.

Speaker 9 (42:38):
It's just not going to and you can't hit enough,
no matter how many yard on Alvarez is Jose l
two vays what you want to throw out there? You
cannot hit enough cover that e r A and that
many base runners.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I'm sorry, it is exactly as he said it.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
The team that finishes last in e r A by
a lot and last in whip is not going to
be in the postseason. There's no offense that can overcome that.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, in case you guys were wondering if if Wex
walks the walk and doesn't just talk the talk, I'm
going to read aloud from the tease he wrote on
our rundown going into this segment. You've heard it here
on the A team. A former player now says the
same thing about your astros.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
What is it next? How did I do?

Speaker 10 (43:26):
That?

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Was my impression of you doing something you would do
that is what I would do. Be a giant d
When you say something on the radio, right true.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Now, it's it's interesting sometimes to hear what other outsiders think,
and it's a point that has to be made. And
the astros know it. Joe knows it, Dana knows it,
Jim Crane knows it. You know, the pictures in the
bullpen know it. The pictures that start games know it,
the pictures that get called up from the miners know it.
Everybody knows that it cannot This is not winning sustainability.
They can continue being the worst pitching staff in baseball.

(43:57):
That is definitely sustainable if they continue to not to
strikes continue, It's not even why do we care if
they walk so many guys because.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
They're all scoring and they can't get the guys.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
At the bottom of the line up it when you
walk there, Yeah, it's not a fluke. And gosh, these
numbers that come out on every game after like twice
in this last series, the opposing team scored eight or
more runs and it's happened with such frequency. Those are
almost automatic losses. When you give up five runs, you're
winning percentages. Trash, Yeah, think often you're giving up six, seven, eight,

(44:31):
twelve runs this year it is almost a miracle like
what Spencerraghetty and Peter Lambert have done over their last
four starts, respectively, and the Astros are six and two
in those eight games. Do you realize how hard that
is to do? And I told you the opposite side
of that, in their last twenty seven games, they're nine
to eighteen. Well, they've only lost twice when those guys

(44:54):
have been on the mound. Does that not tell you something?
They're three and seventeen when anybody else starts the game
for the last thirty days, So any of that means
they're not pitching well hardly Ever, here's because they are
still scoring.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Hunter Brown's nowhere near returning.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
He would help with this, obviously, he's the ace of
your staff and he was pitching well before he got hurt.
Tatsu Emi is not going to help you based on
what you've seen prior to him coming back. Now. I
know that's not the be all end all, but like
nothing he has both said or done and we'll get
to that gives you any sort of confidence that this guy,

(45:34):
who you're now on the hook for the next two
seasons after this, because he's definitely gonna opt in.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
But that's I'll leave out a little bit of an
oud on that he's gonna sign a three year deal
about eighteen million a year, so he has the option
player option for following this season, so he could say
I'd love I mean not opting in next year.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
He got the Bregmann Red Sox deal.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Considering the twenty twenty seven season, that kind of throw
a wrench into it. But at the end of the
next four months, do you think it's five months? Do
you think it's out of the question that he just
simply doesn't want to be here, doesn't want to pitch
in the Major League.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
With the amount of times he's talked about adjusting to America,
that's not a far fetched thing to say.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
And outside of that, I wouldn't imagine that what you
say isn't going to be true. If everything went goes
a little bit better, if the personal side of things
go a little bit better, if the comfort comes to
him by being here and pitching a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Imagine he and his agent thinking that opting his agent,
Scott Boris, by the way, I can't imagine them thinking
opting out and making a killing in free agency is
where it would be, even if they thought they could
get more out of Houston. I mean, think of how
well things would have to go after he comes back,
because they've gone so dramatically poorly to start things up.
When we hear from Dana Brown, specifically coming up in

(46:58):
twenty two minutes, we'll let you hear good chunk of
that interview this morning. Emi is one of the subjects
about you know why they have put him back in
the rotation. They haven't given you us a date, but
they got four games with the Mariners in Houston after
the series with Cincinnati. He will be pitching starting one
of those games. Have an opportunity to hopefully start somebody

(47:18):
else unannounced on Sunday, probably Cody Bolton. Now that gives
you the opportunity to give Peter Lambert that extra day
and gives you a chance to push Emi back to Tuesday.
He threw Tuesday of this week, so that's a full week.
I think all those things are probably whatever they think
they can do, because remember, oh Pete, he just had

(47:40):
the most intense outing of his major league career. Intense
for what the score of the game was and against
whom he was facing, the Dodgers, he threw one hundred
and two pitches. I think if they could get an
additional day rather than having him pitch on the regular
four days of rest, would be a very, very smart move, because,
like I said, when he gets the ball and wins,
it's aragedy gets the ball.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
At least you have a chance.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
They won half of Lambert's starts, and he's been very good,
and they've won all four of arraghetty starts, and they
basically don't win any of the other games. They're winning
fifteen percent of the time. When anybody else pitches fifteen
percent of the time, it works, never time three and seventeen.
As sad as that sounds, that's a fifteen percent winning percentage.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I saw this at one point, and I never thought
I would utter the sentence on the show this season,
But here we are, and I can't remember if it
was like someone who is reputable or just somebody who's
part of Astro's you know, it all jumbles up on
my timeline.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
How I think I'm paraphrasing.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
How did Spencer Arraghetty and Peter Lambert not make the
opening day roster, and we know the answer to the
real answer to that.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Well, the Lambert one is not even controversial, right, I mean,
you're asking some random free agent acquisition who's note has
a bad major league track record two hundred innings.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
He might be this year's Jason Alexander.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
You know, he has better stuff than him, and I
think they could see that during the spring.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
He looks good every time he pitches.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
But having him in the opening rotation to start the
year when everybody was healthy, right, was? I mean, that
wasn't gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
And you're getting to the point, which is that that's
a very legitimate question to ask about Spencer Arraghedty. He
just is and I know that last season wasn't perfect,
Plus it was injury plagued even after he got back.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
You're you're probably talking about two games, right, maybe three.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
That's why I'm kind of putting on as.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
His seventh start of the year yesterday. Spencer is gonna
make his fifth start Saturday. Yeah, but he just looks
so good this year, So it's hard to not ask
questions like that. And I'm sure more questions will continue
to be asked as a as a team that the
injuries continue to pile up, and yet there's just it's

(49:55):
more than that.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
That just seems surface level to me. Maybe if they
were healthy, they'd be winning a whole bunch of games.
It just doesn't feel like they would be. That's where
I'm at on this. Speaking of which Tatsuya em I
would say the interpreter slash just his soundbites in general,
he might want to give it a rest for a while.
I know that's not going to happen. It just feels

(50:18):
like every time he talks it goes very poorly. And
we'll give you the latest example of that coming up
next a Thursday edition of the program Sports Talks seven
to ninety scn over on the simulcasts. Wave at you
beautiful boys and girls out there, if you're watching us
on the television, He's WEX.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I'm Ac.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Josh Jordan is our producer, and Tatsuya Emi is a
starting pitcher for the Houston Astros.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
When he's healthy. It is not which is current. Yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
That's very true, and possibly was also current throughout this
entire season, the.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Part that he was a starting pitcher. No, that he
was healthy, Oh, that was healthy.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
I know he went on the injured list, which is
where he currently is.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
But he's healthy.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
It does didn't really receive treatment for anything. I'm not
calling him a liar by any means, but you know
the speed with which his recovery from right arm fatigue
has been.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Very quick. Right arm fatigue.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Listen every time I hear that, and far be it
from me to, you know, act like I've ever pitched
in a major league game.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
But it just.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I don't know, maybe maybe if they decide.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
That's okay, and I probably presented in a rather sinister way,
and I hope I did not.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
When you didn't come across that way.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
When you combine it with some of the things that
he has said and will say right here, it's just
I don't know. I think you're dealing with a fan
base in particular right now that is so exhausted from
any sort of ailment that has that has basically done
something to name fifty different and Astros players over the

(52:01):
last two seasons that they're just they're out for blood,
well or not.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
If they were twenty three and fifteen, it would be
different too.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
That's also true. Winning fixes everything, not just clubhouses, not
just locker rooms, not they would clearly not be as
reliant on somebody, anybody. Peter Lamberto was the most recent list.
They just need somebody to pitch well for them consistently,
or else they're going to continue in the direction that
they are headed. So the hope is that he will
be the next person to get an opportunity his second

(52:28):
go round health wise, hopefully this time around, to go
out there. He did pitching Sugarland as we all know
on Tuesday, followed by Josh Hater and Nate Pearson. Not
a great day for Nate Pearson, who's made now a
couple of rehab appearances as yet to make his Astro's debut.
He was hurt during spring training or hurt during the
off season technically because of a procedure, and then slowed

(52:48):
during spring training with a setback, and Josh Hater came
to camp having to tell everybody, I'm already shut down
from what took place late in his off season regimen.
And he's obviously not made an appearance with the Astro.
But his rehab appearance of one inning went well according
to him, and I think the Astros totally agree.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Em is a little bit different.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
The second rehab appearance very much like the first struggle
to throw strikes. And like I said, next segment, when
we hear from Dana Brown, we'll hear what the Astros
messaging has been to Emi as he will. As we noted,
next start will be with the Astros. It should be
at dyk In Park. It should be against the Mariners,
who they open a series with starting on Monday. But
Emi did speak with reporters the Constellation Field after his

(53:32):
last appearance of three innings with five walks, and here's
what he said.

Speaker 11 (53:38):
So, I think that kind of the reason is is
behind pitchbog and then I am able to take more
time between pitches. And I also, for example, before games
in Japan, he can he can take some time every
pitches and then he can I can go to so

(53:58):
like inside into the left, he can get a first
pitch strike with sliders. And then for here he do
like scouting scouting report and we talk about the weakness
of the hitters, and then I'm thinking, I want to
do more.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
I want to talk about more.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
The strength that I had using slider from the first
pitch count get more strikes with a slider slatterer.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Than the other pitch of really talked about all the
things that he's not comfortable with.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Pitchclock not something he was used to.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
He's previously talked about, the baseball itself, which is different,
the mound he's spoken about, and then all the inner
workings of being a major league baseball player here in
the States versus what he was doing before this season.
And then at the end there he was talking about
the plan and that's also new to him, how the
Astros are going about planning for a start or in
this case the Space Cowboys, and versus how he feels

(54:52):
like maybe he better be could be better served. And
like I said, next segment, Dana gets into a few
of those things that Emi, through his interpreter, talked about
after his last minor league rehab start.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Is that it I think so?

Speaker 3 (55:11):
I mean, I'm waiting for your response to his comments.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Look, I my thing is, like I said before, and
this goes for Fromber.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
I'm just trying to think of guys that have used
interpreters in the past where there's been something, whether it
be like last year with Sazar Salazar in that whole
situation this year with a very sketchy start to his
Astros at Slash Major league career. I think sometimes a
lot of this stuff can get lost in translation, no

(55:42):
pun intended, and it can come off either well, most
of the time it comes off worse than maybe it
actually is. Like the stuff with Fromber last season, especially
in light of what happened this week, didn't you feel
like having an ento there and made it almost sometimes
worse than it maybe even was, or it seemed that way.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Uh. I mean, I guess it could because because what
they don't really know that you're getting exactly what was said.
And I think these interpreters are basically magicians. How do
how does he talk and talk and talk and talk
and talk, and then you remember that gathered all of
that and can turn it around and translate it for
us and not miss anything in translation or literally miss
something that was said.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
It's really really difficult, and you know, you know same thing.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Emi is giving longer answers and you're trying to give it.
I do think there's a little bit of a difference
in this situation. Fromber and his interpreter are major leaguers.
They've been around major League Baseball for who knows how long.
In Fromber's case, we know exactly how long. But having
changed interpreters a couple of times since he's been with
the Astro, this is a little bit different, but there's

(56:50):
a total we don't We don't know anything about what
he's answering questions about what he's been used to versus
what he's here dealing with now, And I think he's
probably being very honest and very forthcoming, whereas someone some
other pitcher who was in his fourth major league season,
who had right arm fatigue, who was very uncomfortable with

(57:10):
how things have gone for him, might be less willing
to give the information that I really think Emi is
not worried about conveying, and that's sometimes I think that's
part of why it's coming out that way, is he's
he's I think he's being honest, and these are all
things that are going through his head, and maybe they're
impacting how I'm pitching. Maybe they aren't, but these are
things I'm thinking about and you're asking about them.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
So here's my answer.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
How many times have we just on this show read
a quote from somebody and you're not hearing the quote
and it comes off completely different when you're just reading
it in print.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
That's what I'm getting at here.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
The problem with with Emi is that the quotes he's given,
whether they were you know, because of an interpreter situation
or not they were, they they're just not well.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
I think what is really trying to say, if I
can be so bold, is you're almost pretending to yourself
that the question that Emi was asked this time, that
we gave you the sound for and the last time
about the eating situation and we eat at a different time,
you're almost making it sound like you believe the question
he was asked is what kind of excuses do you

(58:19):
have for this performance? And so I tried, he runs
down the list of things that aren't he's not comfortable with.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Doesn't it seem that way though?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
No, I think he's being These are things that are different,
and I do think, like I said, I think there's
some important stuff if you want it to be. From
how they anticipate or they'd like to see his next
appearance go, they can't dictate what the results will be.
They can't dictate that he starts throwing strikes because he
didn't as a major leaguer and he hasn't so far

(58:46):
as a minor league rehabber. When Dana gives you that
information coming up in a minute.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
But they need him. That's that's the cold hard truth.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
The decision to put him in the in the rotation
after to extremely disappointing out it is clear they don't
really have a choice choice. Emi needs to make another
rehab start because he's not quite there yet. Okay, So
who's starting after Cody Bolton already is getting a start?
Probably on Sunday? Are you finally going to bring up Yola? Well,
because I'm not really sure what they're going If you're

(59:16):
the Astros, aren't you also kind of saying who cares?
It can't be worse than filling the blank guy? Probably
the second part, maybe not the who cares part? Well, Yeah,
but I know what you're saying. Yes, a team, am
are a hovering well over seven? When oh it's gonna
get worse? Yeah, when Lambert and Arraghetti don't start or
don't pitch there they've got an area a little over

(59:37):
to the rest of the team over the last thirty
days as an era over seven.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
You give up six runs, you've cleared the bar. Well
if he goes, if he goes a complete game run okay,
fill incase of six runs and six innings that's that's
the bar. Just he has surpassed it.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
That in a bad way.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
That might be the best semantics you've ever done on
this show. And that's saying so it's trying to be
mathematically accurate. You can't help yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I can't help myself. You know what I meant.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
You just couldn't know exactly what you meant. You said
something you said. I hope he corrects me on that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I really really do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
I hope our listeners can possibly follow along without his
interjecting that nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Please do that for our listeners.

Speaker 6 (01:00:12):
Wex.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
I'm begging you. That's why you're here. The funny thing is,
that's not what I was thinking. But now it is
all right. We'll leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
That's so depressing to be an Astros fan these days,
it really is. We're going to actually delve into another
depressing aspect of the Astros. The news that we got
before the twelve to two lost yesterday. That would be
the Carlos Carea injury. We haven't really heard from Dana
Brown on that, at least on this show. We heard
from him earlier, and we're going to replay a portion

(01:00:41):
of that to talk about that very subject Carlos Carea
for the second time in his astro's career with a really,
really tough to swallow type injury that's going to keep
him out for some time, in this case, the rest
of the season here on May seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
That's next the age on Sports Talk SA If I
were to give you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
A limit, a cap on the words you could use
to describe Dana Brown's current experience emotionally during the twenty
twenty six astro season, just give you a handful of words,
and you're gonna be limited to how would you describe it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Frustrated, disappointed, anxious.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I like that those are three good words.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
There's a lot on the line here when you're headed
into uncertainty with your job status. Now, I'll respect him
just like I would everybody else that's in these situations
all the time. Coaches, a lot of NFL coaches go
through this. There's team's two and seven, and you know
you're worried about your job security. I'm worried about winning
football games. I'm worried about getting the team prepared to

(01:01:45):
try to beat the Bengals this week. That's where my
focus is. They can do whatever they want to do.
That's out of my control. I try to win football games.
That's it, and I do think that's legit. I'm sure
when they leave the facility and they're at home and
their wife and their kids or whatever their situation is,
maybe it's a little bit on their mind about their futures.
And the same could be true for Dana or Joe,

(01:02:06):
but in Dana's case specifically. I mean, I'm constantly looking
at what's happening with the rest of our teams in
the minor leagues, just in making sure we're in good
communication with them. I need you to make sure this
picture is available for us to use on Thursday potentially,
so we can't have him start today. And I need
a report on this player in that player, And you

(01:02:27):
got to tell me what Zach Decenzo looked like. You
got to tell me that, because they're just they've had
to make so many moves, and he's got to have
a handle on all this. Plus the fact that they've
gone out and added and dropped Dustin Harris, They've added
and dropped Daniel Johnson. I mean, the list is going
to be very long if things keep going like this.
He's got to find all these players they're starting shortstop.
I don't know what the lineup will be tomorrow. Braden

(01:02:47):
Shoemake not a part of the organization when the season
started making plays. He's really helped this team way more
than I thought he would be able to. Pretty impressed
with his glove work. He's made some pretty spectacular plays
over there. Not every play that could be made, but
a lot of plays. Obviously, I expect them to hit
zero homers. He's already hit two, one each way. The

(01:03:07):
opposite field home run the other night off show Tani, Well,
pretty important.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
It was run two. You won two to one, very
very important.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
But the portion of the conversation from Dana Brown we've
got for you here from his visit this morning, begins
with his thoughts on the unfortunate news yesterday that they
announced that Carlos Korea will be out for the year,
the tend and tear, and his thoughts on that, plus
some clarification from Dana Brown on the injury itself.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Certainly a gut punch for us, you know, tough news
to to get on one of your star players. You know,
we feel for Carlos. He was very saddened by the
by the news. You know, the fortunate thing is that
we still have very good infield debt, you know what, Perettispina,

(01:03:56):
Tuvey and Walker for the rest of the season and
so certainly a gud paunch for us. But uh, you know,
we'll still have his leadership and his presence around. But
certainly not what you want to hear.

Speaker 12 (01:04:11):
Dana, Do you have an exact exact update on what
tendon was affected by his left ankle?

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
It was the outer tendon of the left foot, Uh,
an ankle area.

Speaker 8 (01:04:25):
No, not to you, Achilles, Well, I mean at least
in the immediates, and you mentioned Jeremy Paine, you I
know that you all had talked about sending him out
for a rehab assignments. I mean, does that kind of
speed up the timeline, Like has he come to you
guys and said, hey, send me out now it's time
for me to get back.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
No, we're not going to speed up the timeline on
Jeremy because you know we're going to need him the
rest of.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
The season, and so speeding up the timeline.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
You know, could affect you know, the rest of the season,
and we don't want we don't want Jeremy to be
out when Jeremy comes back, we need him for the
rest of the season, so we we certainly have to,
you know, take our.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Time with Jeremy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
We still think at the end of the day, we
still think it's going to be you know, ten to
twelve days before you know, we can get him back,
and so he's on a good pace to come back.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
So we won't rush them though. He will not rush them.

Speaker 12 (01:05:18):
Dana, when it comes to Toutsy, he will make his
next start at dyke And Park when you return from Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
What went into the decision.

Speaker 12 (01:05:26):
To bring him on up after what was a better
start than what we saw in Corpus Christy, But still
want to dealing with the walks. Is it a listen,
we believe that you have some things that you can
work on, but you can work on it for the
major league level or we need an arm. We believe
that you are ready to go and we'll figure out
the walks along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
No, So that's a good question. So one of the
things that we talked about was simplifying things. Part of
you know, you come over here, you're in a new environment,
and you know, we give you a lot of information,
and so we want to just simplify it and get
him to attack the strike zone like he's been attacking
his zone. A lot of times we talk about how

(01:06:07):
to pitch certain hitters, and sometimes a lot of information, uh,
you know, could be tough, and so we will try it.
The goal is to simplify it, get him in the
strike zone, pitch to hitters, very similar to the way
you used to pitch to hitters, but attack the hitter.
What's your best stuff, you know, as.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Opposed to trying to find the hitters'.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Weaknesses or things like that. And so I think simplifying
it for him and telling him, look, get into the
strike zone, attack, attack, attack is is our message to.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
Him, Dana, For you and Joe personally, I mean, I mean,
it's it's no secret what your current status is with
the team after this season, and I know that y'all
talk after every single game. I mean, do you notice that,
you know the conversations between you two are necessarily changing
with just where the club is at the moment and
and and where things stand injury wise, or is it

(01:07:02):
business as usual for you guys, just you know, focused
on the job and trying to be able to get
this team back into contention.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Yeah, we're focused on the job. And hen look, we've
been here in twenty twenty four. We were actually in
twenty twenty four is the worst start, and so we've
been here before, and this is not uncharted territory force.
You know, we're navigating through these injuries and we feel
confident that this is a really good ball club. You know,
not many teams could withstand an injury like you know,

(01:07:34):
the injury with Korea. Look, we still have them filled depth.
You know what, We're going to have some of our
pitching coming back. We're going to have Pinya coming back.

Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
Haters is throwing well. He's up to ninety four and most.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
Recent rehab start, and so look, ultimately, you know, we
know that we have the pieces.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
And this is a really good team. So you cannot panic.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
You've got one hundred and twenty more games to go
and your four games back, and so this is not the.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
Time to panic. The time is to get healthy, The time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Is to stay focused. We've been swinging the bats very well.
The defense has been pretty good. We're not on all
cyling just because the pitching hasn't been as good, but
it's we've had some bright spots and some clips of
coming to attractions of late. You know, you know, with
the start of Lambert, I'm an excellent start. You know,

(01:08:28):
we we have the core pieces to stay afloat, compete,
stay competitive, and once all of your guys get back,
it'll be on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
It'll be one hundred and twenty four games to go,
beginning with the three game set in Cincinnati over the
weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
What if he had said, like Donkey Kong, after that,
it'll be on like Donkey Kong.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Then, even though we were up against it, I would
have started the clip sooner because I would have left
more on the clip so you guys could all enjoy
whatever reaction calling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Dan had to that comment. That would have been awesome.
It would have been good. But he didn't say it.
He did not say that. There is more from Dana.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
We'll share a little bit of his thoughts on moving
pitchers along in the system and some specific ones maybe
a little bit more quickly over the years that they've
done pitch clock, is there a correlation between that and
injuries in his mind?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
And a few other things.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
As we continue our foray into the actual on court
activity in the NBA's postseason for the first time here
on the A team.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
We'll do that next.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Some nights.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Calves and Pistons, Lakers and Thunder game twos.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
In each of those series, Pistons won at home over
the Calves a couple of nights ago, the Thunder won
at home over the Lakers a couple of nights ago.
All things are similar for this night as they were
for that night from a hell standpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
For both of those teams.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Talked about James Harden a little bit, not necessarily for
what he did or didn't do in that particular game,
but just in general because it was a very strange
but hot topic on the inside the NBA program. Last
night in the NBA, we saw one series move to
two and zero and the Knicks. They won both of
the first two games at home, and last night they
did so without facing Joe El Embiid. He was out

(01:10:09):
and Sixers played just happenstance significantly better than they did
in Game one with him. Spurs also very much turned
the tables type of game on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Timberwolves
withstood a game winning shot attempt at the buzzer from
the Spurs in Game one, which was off the mark
from Champenny, so they got a two point victory and
took the one game to none series lead. And then

(01:10:31):
last night they got absolutely slacked. The San Antonio Spurs
were outstanding from the jump. They put them away in
the late second quarter, outscored him fifty nine to thirty
five in the first half, so essentially the game was over.
They outscored him by another fourteen points in the second
half and we're flirting with the largest victory in their
franchise's postseason history. Ended up winning the game by thirty

(01:10:53):
eight points. Anthony Edwards came off the bench for the
second time in two games in this series, had twelve points,
five or thirteen shooting. They did get Ayudasumu back, but
he also came off the bench and only played ten
and a half minutes. It was a game that they
didn't stress their key players in because they were getting
smoked in that game. Your favorite NBA player, I think

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that doesn't play for the Houston Rockets. Correct smoke in
the locker room after the game, and you're eating up
all the words from Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
You know, I told you guys after the first game,
like the natural tendency for teams. That's still the first
game that wait team, they get blown out game two,
so we can't come out cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
We came out cool, and what happened, We got blue out.

Speaker 11 (01:11:34):
So I mean it said, my mama used to tell
me a hardhead and make a soft acts and that's
what happened tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
So yeah, I mean those guys. I took my hat
to those guys. They came out, they played hard. They
was the more desperate team than they wanted, and we'll
see where you go from here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
San Antonio wanted no part of going to Minnesota needing
to win four out of five, including playing the first
of those two in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Yeah, if you are in Minnesota, you don't have home
court in this series, which is the case, you want
that split. But what Anthony Edwards said is what got
my attention, and it's one of the reasons he is
my favorite. That's not a rocket. It's not just why
he does on the core court, which is awesome. He
could give the worst interviews ever, and we certainly have

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seen really talented NBA players give god awful interviews, but
he doesn't, and a lot of times he says the
right thing even if it's bombastic in nature or presented
a little bit more abrupt than you might prefer.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
But he's like such a I will never ever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Look at Anthony Edwards anything he does on off the
court and not say to myself, the guy's nothing but
a team guy. Like guys that have his kind of
talent go into business for themselves all the time. I've
never once thought that Anthony Edwards does that. He just
wants to win, and he's a hoops junkie, much like
Katie in that way. Yeah, he's put on a leadership

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role for sure. He's a former number one overall pick.
The team's been built around him. When he's at his best,
they look like they can beat anybody. They've had several
good postseason runs and might be in the midst of
having another, despite the fact they're without a key player
in Dante DiVincenzo. Obviously, Anthony Edwards Antisumo are both not
nearly one hundred percent, but the Spurs are also good.

(01:13:22):
The Spurs are just flat out better than them if
they go and show it, and that's what they did
last night. The thing that I think hurts the most
if your Minnesota is you really put such little threat
into the Spurs minds that you were going to compete
that game, that they were able to rest everybody. Victor Webinyamo,
in my opinion, was handled properly during the regular season

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by the Spurs. He didn't play a ton of minutes.
He was barely in the top one hundred in minutes
played this year around the NBA, and then Thompson among others,
played more than a thousand minutes more than he did
this year in a year where you know, the leader
played under three thousand men was close to it, but
over a thousand more minutes. That's a lot of court
time that Victor was specifically not out there for. And

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now you got him playing thirty nine plus minutes in
Game one and in a loss, and you're not getting
extra days off. He's not used to this, and then
they allowed him to only need to play twenty six
minutes last night.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
That's a big deal to me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
You're traveling New Minnesota, you're playing again tomorrow, and then
you're playing the day after that. If he's not taxed
and they didn't tax him, then that plays into San
Antonio's hands. And again, at some point people will realize
this San Antonio's talented. San Antonio got Dylan Harper with
a number two pick last year. Some people were a
little down on it at points during the year. I'm

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really not sure that they were paying close enough attention
or else they wouldn't have been, but they were. I
think he's going to be great, and he's provided a
ton for them off the bench, especially in this series
and especially in last night's game. Obviously, Stefan Kassel gets
a lot of run. He is the reigning rookie of
the Year, and he's pretty much the best player that
was available in that draft he went forth. There's no
question they got the best player available in the draft

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before that, in Victor Webbin Yama.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
That's how you win, if you hit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
They spent all these years drafting in the lottery, year
after year after year, not at the very very top,
but a lottery pick they missed on almost every single
one of them. The closest to a hit is one
of their starters, Devin Vassell, and now that he's their
fourth or fifth best player, things are fine because they've
drafted three other players that are great, and this team

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is made up of a draft pick. Now, a draft pick,
a draft pick a draft pick, a draft pick, and
Daron Fox and it's pretty it's pretty nice.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
You can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
You and I were talking with Missy the ultimate Spurs
fan full disclosure, she's a little biased about the d
Aaron Fox experience, so to speak, before the show. And
my thing is, you know, I've never disliked d'aron Fox.
I just and I said this to her, and you
were right there and witnessed it. I've always thought that
he was going to be a guy who puts up
good numbers on bad teams, which is what he was

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his entire career in Sacramento. The reason he works in
San Antonio, and it's not to say they don't need him,
because clearly he does more than just a little for
that team. The scoring is phenomenal, But it's because of
the roster around him that you just mention. Forget Victor Wimbnyama,
that's like a non starter because he's always going to
be their best player and everything he brings to the table.

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But it's like the castles, the the Kelvin Johnson's Aaron
Fox is gravy correct. They got the best way to
put anyone without no problem. When he plays well, they
become very difficult to be That's perfectly said, because I
do think they would be a problem without him. With

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him when they play within what they're trying to do
as a team and a system and all that kind
of stuff that it's it's gross how the embarrassment of
Riches in San Antonio is. And You're right that we
went through a lot of years. I was like, finally
their front office isn't doing every single thing perfectly, and
then here we are again.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
It's a shame.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
We really didn't talk too much about the other team
in Texas with the move they made. You said, with Messiah,
you're jury taking over as team president in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Would absolutely love him here, and I think people maybe
I'm not. I mean, I wasn't anti the move, but
I'm not in love with the move.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
I'm not concerned with the move, And if you look
at what he's actually done, I'm not sure what's so
impressive about it. I mean, I know where they were
headed before, and I know who they had in charge before,
so I'm sure he could do better than that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
He has been a part of winning organizations the last
two stops, and he's been a part of why they
were winning organizations.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
You can't win it every year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
I get that, and I know that some people probably
look at at Toronto as an outlier because you got
Kawhi and you were a contender and then he left.
But you know what, he got him and they did win.
And that's more than the Rockets have done since nineteen
ninety five. The got real close in twenty eighteen and
then you guys know what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
What happened? Not a parade.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Well, we'll move on from there and kick off the
four o'clock hour with one other item on the NBA
side that does impact your Houston Rockets next halfway through
the eighteen This afternoon, we've got Astros Baseball back on
the air coming tomorrow evening three game series with the
Cincinnati Reds, first of thirteen straight days for the Astros

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two play. They should have Tatsui Emi back during that stretch,
probably when they get home to take on the Seattle Mariners.
Mariners have well, they put themselves in good position in
this division. They are off today, but sitting right near
at the top of the standings with the five hundred Athletics.
They are on the road tonight at the Phillies Rangers

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have already lost today. They've pitched pretty well this year
as a team, they have not hit very well this
year as a team. They're now seventeen and twenty again.
The division leading A's are eighteen and eighteen. The Angels
and Astros share the same fifteen and twenty three record,
and the Cincinnati Reds, the opponent for the Astros tomorrow

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in Cincinnati, are just two outs away from dropping their
seventh consecutive game, be twenty and eighteen. When the Astros
meet up with them tomorrow afternoon, Mike Burrows an opportunity
to pitch back inside the National League Central Maybe that
will help get him on track. It's a nice hitters ballpark.

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The Astros offense probably in decent shape considering the Reds
pitching staff. While they are three games over five hundred currently,
will be two in a few minutes. Their pitching staff
is not quite as unsuccessful as Houston, but pretty much
across the board, they're one of the ten worst. They
give up a ton of hits, they walk a ton
of batters. It'll be the two teams that got bad,

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the two teams that lead the majors in most walks
issued will be facing one another tomorrow afternoon, Saturday and
tomorrow evening, Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Afternoon and Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
So hopefully the Astros I don't know how you view
they did with the Dodgers pitching staff. I scored three
runs of the open and they scored two runs in
the second game, and they followed that up with another
two run game. It's good pitching, for sure, but they
didn't score a lot and not have a whole lot
of offense. All of their offense. Three of their four

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runs in the last two games came on solo homers.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
They turned an eleven to one game into a twelve
to two loss with the second of their two runs
yesterday when they scored in the late innings. And again,
you want to give the pitching staff a little bit
of a break, all out for it. Pitching staff allowed
only eleven runs yesterday. The position player allowed one run
in yesterday. I'll do that to Caesar Salazar. Well, I'm honestly,

(01:20:43):
I'm being totally serious on this, Like in the NBA,
when the dumbs decide. Well, I know there's time on
the clock, and I know we get paid to play basketball,
but why would I want to play basketball, do this.
So they the Rockets had nine turnovers tonight, Well they
won because they had eight. That's why they won the game,
not because we had to add a stupid turnover, the
same thing that you know teams do. It's I don't

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blame the teams. I blame the statistical counters. I am
totally stoked, even though this wasn't the reason that the
NBA changed these statistical bookkeeping on end of quarter shots.
They wanted guys to attempt them, But I don't want
my field goal percentage to go down. Okay, if you
throw it up and it goes in, we'll give you

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a one for one. If you throw it up and
it doesn't go in, that's just gonna be a team.
Zero for one doesn't even go on your ledger at all. Okay,
we'll start attempting it more often, and we clearly saw it.
It's even in the box score. And then the Astros
eer like when Chas McCormick was putting zero's up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
That was nice and it did help the team.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Era, but he's not a pitcher, and there's guys that'll
go out there one inning, three outs, fourteen pitches, five runs.
Now your team are probably stinks anyway, that's why you've
resorted to this. But even good teams every once in
a while, I have a stinker and they have an
exhausted bullpen. So some position that those numbers shouldn't count
in your team, right, No, I agree, you're asking the

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statisticians to do more work though.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
True, But guys like you love that. That's just more fun.
It's just numbers. By the way input it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
It sounds to me, and I'm translating roughly, I'm taking
everything you just got done saying about the two pitching
stats going into this weekend series. Yeah, it sounds to
me like we're gonna have twelve eleven thirteen to twelve
ten finals.

Speaker 13 (01:22:34):
They have.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
They've been good offensively talking about the Reds, but their
record is now probably about where their team has been.
They got on a roll to get to nine games
over five hundred, and they've obviously gone to the opposite
direction to likely go into tomorrow's game, it's just two
games over five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
The role for the Astros was their five game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Winning streak the beginning of the season, on their opening
home stand open the year in two, then one five straight.
If you want to do the math with me. They've
won ten times since they left town the first time
this year. And remember that opening road trip they went
one for nine or one for ten, going one and nine.
They have only won ten games since then. They've gone

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ten and twenty one since then. Now you could spin
it positively, Well, if you started the season one and
nine on the road during that ten game road trip,
and now your road record doesn't look nearly as bad.
Have you played good baseball away from home, which is
where you're headed this weekend. Yeah, you have for five
and four on the road since the opening ten game

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road trip. If you played just above five hundred like
that the rest of the year, you win twenty of
your next thirty six, you go twenty and six, that'd
be phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Not anticipating that that would be great. Yeah, I don't
even know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Like I told you jokingly before the show started, we
were talking about the schedule and I was like, yeah,
they'll probably do something stupid and sweep the Mariners, just
because that's how weird this season is. I don't anticipate
that because their pitching is really good, so you know,
even if your offense doesn't give up a ton to
their or even if you're pitching, I should say, doesn't
give up a ton to their offense, which has been

(01:24:09):
sketchy at times this season. I just don't anticipate your
offense doing what it normally likes to do because I'm
giving their pitching staff full credit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Yeah, they've been good, not great, good enough to keep
them close to five hundred eighteen and twenty heading into
the weekend with their series upcoming the Astros obviously at
fifteen and twenty three. That the Reds are going to
lose today, which will put them in fifth place in
a five team division that's over a five ton place.
Their twenty and eighteen record will be a game better
than anyone in this division.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Good thing are in the Nlcentral anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Yeah, I'm not sure how good they really are, but
the records don't lie, and the win loss marks don't lie.
There's the nine teams I think where twenty wins or
more going into play today. Two of them were American
League teams. The other seven are in the other league.

Speaker 14 (01:25:00):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Yeah, who's the third American League team that caught my eye?
Like they've got a decent record, but it is Detroit, right, No,
it's not Detroit. Who am I thinking of?

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Well, it's not even that these teams don't have twenty wins.
There are zero American League teams with a winning record.
After you talk about the Yankees and Rays, the thirteen
other teams are at five hundred or worse.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
There's two five hundred teams. Then everybody else is at
least two games under five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
That much, I don't know how much is honestly gonna change,
Like Detroit is one if well, it's so funny how
much reporting John Hayman is doing on the.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
School league so wild.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
He completely botched it from the top, and now he's
trying to get out front of that. He actually posted
something today that said, the surgery went so well that
it's crazy. But their pitching staff is injured enough that
I could see them putting it together and going on
a run. I think most of these other teams kind
of honestly are what they are. I'm not sure what
is gonna make Toronto all of a sudden get it going.

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They obviously have played well under expectations. They're five games
under Baltimore is what they are. They're just an average
baseball team. This division it's specifically. You know, the Mariners
could put a run together because they could pitch well
and Emerson Hancock pitching great this year. Just stinks like
they need that also, but he has been very, very
good this year to add to their staff. But I'm

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not sure what's gonna make their offense all of a
sudden start to score. This is a pretty good distance
into the season. I don't think cal Raley and Hulio
Rodriguez and Josh Naylor are all going to continue to
be awful, But I don't know that they're gonna have
good offensive seasons when it's all said and done.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
And why can't the Dodgers and Cubs hang with the Braves.
I think we all predicted they'd have the best record.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
It's okay, if we want to make power rankings, we
just do the smart thing and have them third or fourth,
which is what everyone's doing, even though they have the
best record in baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
I mean, it's crazy they that was what the team
we expected to see last season, and then they had
all the injury.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Well, the Braves have had starting pitching injuries that they're
still dealing with, and they've still pitched incredibly well and
their offense has been awesome. They have the most runs
scored in the National League and they've given up the
fewest runs in the National League, second fewest runs to
the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Sounds like a recipe for success. It is, and they
have been very successful.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
But a couple of one last thing I mentioned as
we headed into the break with one of the teams
that's not in the playoffs, they'll be constant Yiannis talking.
We'll get some more of that coming up in the
early portion of this hour, possibly next segment. But there's
also talk about the other disgruntled players there is every season,
and Jalen Brown's probably at the front of the line
because we pretty much think they put that out there

(01:27:40):
intentionally to indicate he was disgruntled with the comments we
heard yesterday from Tracy McGrady, the response from Brad Stevens,
now the league had something to say about Jalen Brown's
comments specific to the series they just lost to the
Sixers when he got fined for complaining about inconsistency and
calls and specifically they told me they were gonna call

(01:28:01):
me for offensive fouls and then they did. He got
fined for that. But he's a twitch streamer. So he
just went back on his Twitch stream and said.

Speaker 7 (01:28:09):
This, They're probably gonna find me another fifty K after this,
because that was what I had to say, like, you
know what I mean, like anytime you talk digging, so
I hope not NBA. I ain't trying to like, but
this I had to say something is like there's an inconsistency,
and it is there, you know what I mean. You
called me for Audy's officive fouls, you know, and that's
not the reason why we lost. But Shae about to

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win the second MVP with the same move.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
He's doing two things here. He's obviously calling out SGA
and the lack of fairness when it comes to how
he's officiated as opposed to everyone else in the league.
But he's admitting that he's doing what SGA does and
I gotta respect that, Like I don't like it because

(01:28:54):
they both push off. But one guy's pushing off and
he's gonna get an MVP award and the other guy's Jalen.
He's getting fine for pointing this out, and that's again
goes back to my original like you can't you can't
have poor officials in place. And then penalize your employees
for pointing it out. That's just gross.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
I don't think we're dealing with poor officials. I think
we're dealing with you're dealing with inconsistent ls. You're dealing
with this is how they want the games to be called,
and they're following along, or else it wouldn't be happening. Yeah,
But he's like, I'm not trying to give them a break.
I'm saying it's the issue is maybe larger than that, of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Course it is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
It's why Adam Silver's rapidly approaching worst Commissioner in Sports status.
You know, by the way, when he was sauntering down
to his seats inside Toyota Center before Game six, it
was just.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
All I could do. Into the sentence and segment.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Four.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
As we continue here on the at XNAC here with
you seven one three, two one two five seven ninety.
On the NBA, we've got seven more teams to eliminate
to have a new NBA champion or a repeat NBA champion.
The defending champs are still alive and have not lost
this postseason.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Trying to keep that alive.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Tonight, they've got the Lakers Oklahoma City looking for a
repeat championship, but that hell has to happen during that process.
The NBA will host the twenty twenty six and the
last of its kind. Under the current format, it looks
like NBA's Draft lottery. There are many teams in it.
At points in time over the last couple of years.

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It looked like the Rockets would not only be in it,
but be in the thick of it when they held
the twenty twenty six unprotected pick of the Brooklyn Nets,
but they don't made a deal since then to obviously
shift a little their focus to Phoenix's future draft assets
rather than Brooklyn's made a trade to give those rights

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back to the Brooklyn Nets. So they're in the lottery
for themselves, and the Rockets do not have a first
round pick at all, but they're definitely looking to make
this team much more competitive than it turned out that
they would be this year. Injuries obviously a huge part
of it. They're not gonna likely help themselves for the
draft in any way, and there are a lot of
other teams that will, and the Milwaukee Bucks are as
much of the Rockets off season conversation as any team

(01:31:19):
in the NBA. The Bucks will have a lottery pick.
It will either be their own or that which they
can procure from New Orleans. The least favorable of those
two is what Milwaukee will have, and they also would
like a definitive answer on their superstar. They won thirty
two games this year with Janna Sino Deakopo missing a

(01:31:40):
ton of those games, and then the acrimony between he
and the franchise about whether or not he was going
to return if he's healthy enough to do so, what
were they even really playing for all those things that
went into it, And then the nature of his injuries,
how much do they impact his future production no matter
whose uniform he's putting on, And they they might have

(01:32:01):
made one of the largest upgrades on the bench of
any team this year, at least. I don't want to
go too historical, but shifting from Glenn Rivers to Taylor Jenkins,
I think is an upgrade. I know Glenn's resume is
awesome and Taylor's is brief, but if you're talking about
winning basketball games in twenty twenty six, twenty seven, I'll

(01:32:23):
take Taylor Jenkins. You can take Doc Rivers. So the
introductory press conference for Jenkins today, one of the co
owners of the Bucks was out up there with him.
It's a lot of conversation about their future and most
specifically their superstar Jannis. Come October, if they haven't done
anything with Giannis, they can offer him a big fat

(01:32:45):
two hundred and seventy five million dollar deal over four years.
That's that's the highest paid player in the NBA if
he were to get and accept that deal nearly seventy
million a season. They can't do that until October, and
they would have like to do that if they haven't
moved him, thus ensuring that he's staying there. Otherwise he
could actually become a free agent after the season. Now,

(01:33:07):
clarity on that they'd like much much sooner, and that
was what the word was given by the Bucks co owner.
Because of the draft coming up right at the end
of the season, just before July, they'd like to have
an answer before it hits so the GM can know
what to do with those picks. To a certain extent,
are're building around Giannis still, or you're building around whatever
it is you've been able to acquire from the trade

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and then the youth at the team, and you just
would have a lot more answers for that I've called
him Buck's co owner multiple times already in this commentary
for a reason, because he's going to be busy pretty
much the rest of the time after the draft, because
he's going to be helping his GM Andrew Berry figure
out if they want to start Jashaun Watson or Shadour Sanders.

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Because the Bucks co owner is the owner of the
Cleveland Browns, Jimi hasli he's already made that decision. Sounds
like I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
One guy's really really looking good and the other guy
is Shiloh Sanders's brother.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
That's probably how I would put it, mister, possibly in
very serious debt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Eleven million.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
That's a lot of money to spend when you haven't
made eleven million dollars now your family has a lot
of money. I don't know that it's really your money,
but that's a pretty significant in debt status. So basically,
all that was to say, the Bucks want clarity, and
they want it in the next six weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
So, of course, as soon as I came up with
my genius idea to trade out burn Shingoon for Jalen Brown,
who is definitely disgruntled. There's no way he's gruntled right
now here comes Windy to point at the sky and say, yeah,
they Milwaukee and Boston getting on the phone with each other.
They should make that deal. Jalen Brown for uh Yannis

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straight up.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
You know, if you're Boston, it's it would be really
hard not to consider. We have a star regardless Jason Tatum.
If we make that deal, there's definitely an area where
you can put these guys on the court and we
can talk to our coaches and we can formulate a plan.
And man, that looks good. That looks a lot like
we're gonna find a way. And Brad Stevens spoke yesterday

(01:35:15):
not only about Jalen Brown, but about the coach and
their playing style. Nobody fires up three pointers with reckless
band and like the Boston Celtics do, And it sure
sounded like he didn't appreciate it and doesn't appreciate how
they've been going about it offensively, because they go into
these ruts on the nights where they don't make they lose,
they can't score, they can't get out of these holes,
and they fault prey to these long runs and they're

(01:35:37):
out of the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
As the favorite in the East.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Did not win a playoff series, taking out a star
in Brown and adding in a star in Giannis. The
way that he plays, they do push pace, they do
like to get up and down the floor. They do
have the players to help them do that. That's a
pretty awesome fit. He obviously can play big. He's gonna
get you well. The fourteen rebounds every night. He can't

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defend all those things being said, the one thing that
would be dramatically different and potentially a huge, huge negative
is instead of having steady, healthy Jalen Brown star, they
would now have two stars that are the opposite. Jason
Tatum ended his season in back to back years hurt.

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He came back this year, but he didn't play in
Game seven because he was hurt. Last year, he obviously
didn't finish things out because he tours achilles in the postseason.
And now you're gonna add Yiannis calf injury out of
a Koupo to your roster. That can be dangerous. It's
not worth not doing out of concern for it. But

(01:36:42):
I would be concerned about it, just like I'm concerned
about any deal the Rockets might put together to add
a oft injured player like Giannis has been the last
couple of years.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
That's why if you're Boston and you're looking to basically,
in this case either scenario that were magically making up
up on the fly here trade you're starting two guard
for a big I mean, when's the last time you've
had serious injury concerns about outbring Shingoon And when's the

(01:37:13):
next time You're not gonna have serious injury concerns about Yanis?

Speaker 8 (01:37:16):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Do their age? Now?

Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
Do this that?

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Now? I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
He's accomplished way more. He's a bigger name, he's more
reliable in a million different ways. But Shingun has more upside.
At this point in twenty twenty six is off season.
If you're looking at seriously moving Jalen Brown out the
door and pairing somebody with Jason.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
Tatum, Yeah, I mean it may sound right if if
those are deals are on the table, I'm taking Yannis
every time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
That's hilarious to me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
I'm dead serious when I say this, because you've been
so anti Yannis.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
If I'm Boston, right, Boston is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
All why would you Why does it change if you're
Boston because they have Tatum, Yes, but you have Durant
very different it's actually a better fit here on I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. You called Tatum or Brown
a two guard, they're the same. But I think the
fit is perfect. I think the fit is great. I
don't even think I mean Gianni's fitting here. I don't
think there's any issue with his fit here either. Now
they're pivotless, they're centerless because he's not gonna lie. You're
not gonna use him in the post to set your

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offense up. You might use him in the offense, but
he's gonna be faced up. I know this is gonna
be face which sadly is what Albern Shangun did almost
the entire postseason, right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
I know this is a difficult question considering we don't
know what the parameters would be, and we don't know
what the rest of the roster would look like. But
just for the sake of you're coming down the floor,
hope to god it's Fred van Vliet with a basketball,
because that assumes he's healthy and you're trying to get
into your offense. Where are Giannis and Kevin Durant on
the floor, And what happens now this is a run

(01:38:53):
of the mill possession in the middle of December.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
You do realize you have another player that can fast
break bring it up after a rebound.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Giannis does that and can do that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Yeah, So I think that's helpful and kind of the reason.
As you asked, you know, and I said, if I'm Boston,
if they're the Rockets, you're trading for Yiannis, and in
three years he needs to still be your best player.
You've built your team around him for the next three
to five years. You're the team that's now giving him
this two hundred and seventy five million dollar ish deal.

(01:39:26):
If you're Boston, in four years, their best player isn't Jannis.
In two years, it might not even be honest. In
year one, it might not even be honest because Jason
Tatum is that player both now and for the next
several years.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
That's not the same with Kevin. I was looking at
Jalen Brown's numbers over his career, and what's the first
category you think? I looked at three point shooting boom
and you're good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
He has not been better than thirty five percent since
And they went to the finals in twenty two but lost.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
Sorry, I always forget who I'm talking to. I do
believe here, I do believe that was the year the
Golden State beat them in the finals, though, okay, and
then they won the next year. As I recall, but
he was thirty five point eight that year. Ever since
then thirty three, five, thirty five to four, thirty two four.
In this last season, he was nearly thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
They're of volume three point shooting team. They just fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
I will, but then again, those numbers are basically fifty
percent compared to anybody on the Rockets roster right now.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
A rather unfortunate couple of items to hit you with
in our signature segment, What's up with that?

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Next?

Speaker 6 (01:40:42):
The eighty do that?

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
It's my favorite part is in there with.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Two completely unrelated stories today. Story number one takes us
to the twenty fourteen NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
I really think the Texans should take Johnny Manziel first.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Overall, that was this idiot right here the first two
thumbs and is an idiot that year.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
This guy, the first pick in the draft that year
was Judavian Clowney. He's looking to add to his total
of one hundred and fifty three games played. He does
not have a team yet, but he will. He'll sign
another deal, probably another one year deal, and continue his
NFL playing career this year. A bunch of other players
have had nice, long careers out of that first round.

(01:41:30):
Khalil Mack, Jake Matthews. He'll play in his two hundredth
NFL game later this year. Oh Jake, He's starting an
offensive tackle from day one with the Atlanta Falcons. Mike
Evans will have a new home this year after all
those years in Tampa. And as you alluded to, the
twenty second pick in the draft, right after a Clinton

(01:41:51):
Dix went to the Green Bay Packers, and right before
d Ford.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
That is so bad even for you went to the
Kansas Clinton picks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
A couple other players were I've also become Texans. Let's
just run through the list before we get to the
real part of the story.

Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
Notable first round draft picks okay, for any variety of reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Javian Clowney went number one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
The person who insulted him with a trash can comment
that turned out to help charities. Blake Bortles, quarterback of
the Jacksonville Jaguars, half of the Busting with the Boys
host duo Taylor Lawan went to eleventh to the Tennessee
Titans that season.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
So two out of three you mentioned are out of
the league.

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
Three players went between twenty and thirty two that have
all played for the Texans. Jimmy Ward just finished playing
for the Texans. He was let go after the season.
Bradley Roby was added by the Texans a handful of
years back and has since left the league, and Brandon Cooks,
like Jadavian Clowney, will likely still have another year in

(01:42:57):
the NFL coming up. He went twenty, Dix went twenty one,
d Ford went twenty three, and the first quarterback off
the board after Bortals went three was, in fact, Johnny
Manziel Heisman Trophy winning quarterback of the Texas A and
m Aggies. He was absolutely everything that we've ever said

(01:43:19):
as a college football player. He was the ticket everybody
wanted to watch when he was on the field TV made.
He deserved every bit of that Heisman Trophy for the
quality of his play.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
And the quality of his Halloween costumes.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
He's done a lot of things since then, and the
latest it's pretty interesting endeavor.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
He's going to try a new sport. It's not golf.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
Country club kid that he was it's not baseball. Quarterbacks
and baseball often go together. He's pretty short, so it's
definitely not basketball. He's going to step in the ring
fight box Bob Menry. Do you think our listeners know
who Bob Minor? I do tell them if they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
The most inappropriate play by play artist ever on social
media turned I don't know how he does this, but
every woman he's with hurts to look at because she's
that hot.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
Is that about sum it up? That sounds about right now?

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
This celebrity ex athlete minor celebrity fight was talked about
for months and was expected to get put together at
a different site under a different marketing umbrella.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Dana White was almost mocking it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
He has some sort of history with Bob Menery and
basically said, I even can't even believe they're putting this together,
But if it happens and Bob even shows up, I'm
gonna fly out to Miami to go see it. Well,
the fights since Boba Flake since been moved to ufc APEX,
that's where the fight will be held, and essentially that

(01:44:57):
obviously means that Dan is involved has significant interest in
the fight. Does anybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
No, you know when we would like watch with almost
pure ridicule the celebrity boxing matches.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
I mean, like thee like Dustin Diamond celebrity boxing match
dlisters at best. Okay, I mean would you that's a
screech By the way, may he rest He did do
it though before he passed. I mean, like Danny Bonaducci
celebrity fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Is this what we're talking about? This lower level.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Where I mean is Johnny Manzil might be a what
what letter lister? That's the right letter? Yeah, what's Bob worse?
I mean he's like the male version of an Instagram
model minus the modeling. Right, He's a relative then in
this I interviewed, he's a nice guy. He's a relative

(01:45:59):
nod in this setting. Yeah, so a relative nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
They say this all the time about influencers and streamers
and you two, and that's not reality. Is they are
well known, well known enough to be on the other
side of the card.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think knowing.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
That Dana thinks he would flake out. Obviously, he probably
thinks he's scared to fight.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
That's why he says there's no way in all caps
Bob Minnery shows up to fight Johnny Manziel.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Any believers, that means Dana thinks Johnny's gonna win a
boxing match.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
It also means that he well probably he's the better
athlete of the two, in that he's an athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
Well he was, Well, what was.

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
Bob ever, I mean Johnny's time as an athlete? I
know he played in one fledgling football league. Since he
hasn't been a professional athlete for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
He's only thirty three.

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Well, players in his draft class are still in the
NFL definitely getting paid. It am which players are getting
paid now? Kind of the Reggie Bush angle of it was,
you know, it was before they were supposed to be
getting bay.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
By the way, in case you're wondering the Hamilton Tiger
Cats of the CFLs where he played.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
His he was in one other league as well, one
of the one of these.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Alouettes he was traded to, and no one other league
entirely a there you go. He a member of the
Memphis Express.

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
By the way, he also surfaced in the fan controlled
Football League and played for the Zappers.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
I'm sure very well none of those teams ever rostered
Bob Henry.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
No I would if I were to wager on it,
I would do the same. I would I would bet
on Johnny boxing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Johnny Boxer. Johnny boxing is what they'll call Johnny boxing
is actually probably more.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Uh mentioned there were two items. We have enough show
time left. Maybe in case you missed it, we'll drop
the other one in there. If you thought, uh fromber
Valdez intentionally hitting batters and getting suspended for it a
lot with his manager was the worst thing that happened
inside the Detroit Detroit Tigers organization over the past week's time.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Wrong, Definitely not if you asked me. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
One thing we've done here recently, and it's not because
the NHL postseason is underway and it's tremendously exciting and
we're on our way to seeing a Stanley Cup get crowned,
champion get crowned here in the next couple of weeks.
But we've dipped into hockey quite a bit over the
last couple of shows for good reason, because they've done
some dumb things. Yesterday, no different, I get to dive

(01:48:35):
into the obligatory hockey nonsense of the day, and this
one's probably something I'm imagining this in my head. Next segment,
AC is gonna say, wait, what, that can't be real,
And when he finds out that it was, he'll say,
that's wild man. I'll see if I can put words
in his mouth when I tell you about that next.

(01:48:56):
I'm gonna take my time with this in our final
segment of the hour before we get to Football at five.
And nothing I can do about Football at five today
because we're going to be three hours into the show
and we won't have said anything about.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Boats sturdy Diana.

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
That's going to change at the top of the hour
somewhat unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Can I do that with copyrighting music? Can I sing it?

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
I thought you were going to get in a comment
about her when I brought up Taylor Lawan, because I
believe is a twenty nineteen clip of Patriots coach mustachioed
Mike Rabel on the bus with Taylor and his co host.
Maybe that's a little bit further awo, but his his

(01:49:38):
time while he was coaching that Nashville football outfit, because
there was a clip and he said something that fits
right into the narrative. But that's twelve minutes away. That's
Football at five. We'll also hear from his quarterback Drake
may coming up during football at five. But yes, there's
some nonsense hockey news. I mentioned the NHL is heading

(01:50:01):
into the deep stages of the postseason here shortly they
also are into the next round, second round, and soon
enough the cup will be paraded around the ice and
filled with liquid and paraded around the city, probably dented,
maybe even lost by a couple of players along the way,
but it's great time. Other hockey leagues also continue with
their postseason. Remember the story of the Barry Colts from

(01:50:22):
the other day. Uh huh, doesn't matter, work harder, right?
They got fined by the league.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
What's their league again?

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
The league is how do you even have the money
to absorb a fifteen thousand dollars fine? But they do apparently.
The coach also offered an apology, saying, you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Know, it's my fault.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
I regretted it immediately. The player that was with me,
our captain. He's a great kid, he's a better person
than he is a player. He just did what he
was told and that's on me completely. I could quick
on him and total responsibility for it. Well, the fine
was for basically making the league league look bad. Yeah,
which is what all the finds are always for They

(01:51:04):
just don't say it. They dress it up in different ways,
conduct detrimental to the team. To da da da, you
can't speak about officials. We look bad because we aren't
good at what we are trying to do here. And
so we are going to know the accountable. We're going
to find you and says a super exciting seven game
series one three straight, one game seven on the road.

(01:51:26):
And this is the performance they delivered to their partners
in the media.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
Well, it's good to know that the minor league teams
of these sports are also as bad as the major ones.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
That was just an update on that story.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
There's a completely different and much more entertaining hockey story
to deliver you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
The Western Hockey League their draft was yesterday. Oh boy,
I can't believe I missed it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Well, the team in Vancouver, they had the third pick
in the draft, and why did they do it? They
made their selection. Eli Vickers was the player they chose,
and during the broadcast on the Victory Network of this draft,
this was they had an opportunity to catch up with
the head scout and give his thoughts on this player

(01:52:09):
they drafted. So this is about a ninety second clip
of his thoughts on the on the player. They took
the interview and they posted it right there on their Instagram.
But I took out all the stuff about the player.
I don't think really care, and I just gave you
the beginning of what they posted and the very very
end when he's you know, getting thanked for his input
during their broadcast.

Speaker 13 (01:52:29):
Well, first and foremost, Eli Vickers are really fine young man.
He does everything really really well for me.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
He he wants to plot again, and now I skip
to the end.

Speaker 13 (01:52:41):
That's about all I can shave more.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
I mean, we're happy, really happy to have that is perfect.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
And that's the host of the program, Cammy Kepke, one
of the two hosts of the program, who was obviously
throwing it out to different people over the course.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Of the evening. She could be a coffee barista.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
Everything sounded totally fine, right, uh huh. They just posted
his entire comments about the player that they drafted on
their Instagram. Yep, all of the comments he made about
the player, but not actually all the comments that were
made from the beginning of the interview to the end
of the interview, because this is what it sounded like
in a moment. I got a question to ask you. First,

(01:53:19):
this is what it actually sounded like. Now you heard
his voice, right, m hm. Just throw a number out there.
That head scout Terry Bonner is how old?

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
One hundred and twenty? You were close? I mean he
sounds old.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
He's eighty five. Come on, man, he's eighty five years old.
He's still working, so he could do this.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
This is what the they neglected to keep the very
very very beginning of the toss to him, his response,
and then his introduction of Eli Vickers.

Speaker 10 (01:53:49):
Because it sounded like this, Congratulations on a huge pick
in Eli Vickers at third. Overall, you must have been
confident you could get him at three? What made him
a fit for the Giants organized?

Speaker 13 (01:54:01):
Well, thank you very much. Good lucking girl. Well, first
and foremost, Eli Vickers are real fine.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
I heard the first and foremost original post. That the
only thing they posted.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
They picked it up after good luck girl.

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
Who's the girl the host of the programs we can
obviously see on the other end of the feed. What's
her name, Cammy Kepke, I'll do that. So what do
you think of eighty five year old Terry b shouting
out to the looks of the Victory Network's host of
the program. Can he I mean, you're you're trying to

(01:54:43):
determine the accuracy of his comments, aren't you. Yep, how
are we feeling? As Ross might say, well, he's eighty five.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
As Matt Thomas might say, Ah, she's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
He's eighty five, dude. Okay, So you're saying that he
would anything that moves.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
I'm not even I know he can scout talent, because
I'm sure Eli's awesome and all, but.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
She's not ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
But I understand where an eighty five year old man
would not only say that, but also not have the
filter to not say that because.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
He's eighty five. Well, and foremost time, I like the
last part.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
God laughs in dirty old man. Come on, man, it
doesn't surprise you, Harry Listen. That just shows you that
whether you're eighty five or vrabel, one thing is undefeated
all time, a mother nature. Nope, this has nothing to
do with weather. Oh I know, it's undefeated.

Speaker 6 (01:55:44):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
I taught you that once upon a time, and I
was right. He never said that.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
He's the one that said it to me for the
first time in my life, in my twenties. Well, he
he indicated it was true with his actions.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Did he say it? He said that to me?

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Wait, wait, who's he John McClain, Oh I misheard you. Yeah,
I thought you were doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
And you know what I said.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
I thought you were doing a Bill Clinton.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
No, I wasn't doing I wasn't doing this. That's different
Bill Clinton. You were doing that. That's the point. I
was doing this. I was doing a Baylor graduate.

Speaker 6 (01:56:20):
My bad.

Speaker 11 (01:56:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
You know what I said then when he said that
to me, I go, you're a dirty old man, John,
And you know what he said back.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Yes I am, and you're a dirty young man.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
And that's why I like you actually out McClean accurate
on all counts.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
True, it's true. So that's what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
If you were unaware in the Minor League, Hockey, World
and Junior Awards.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
You successfully took all of the time in this segment,
so I could not get another aspect of the dirty
Diana story in.

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
There will be no shortage of that in the upcoming segment.
It's called Football at five. And if that's all we
talk about the Patriots current head coach, and it's no
longer a reporter and NFL Insider for the athletic that'll
be just fine. We might want to mention the other
obvious if we opened the show with Aj Perzinski repeating
what you've all heard a thousand times here on the

(01:57:07):
A team, probably want to mention one major item of
football news that was broke this morning that we've been
telling you about pretty convincingly for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
We'll do that in Football at five. It's five o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
It's Football at five, and I've got Mike Rabel Diana
Russini memes popping up on the.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Timeline non stop.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
As you guys know, the Texans will have their rookie
minute camp starting tomorrow. Phase two of our off season
program has begun. You were falling along on my social
thanks to the Texans Social You saw Jake Hummel, Tank
Dell Oh, Jayden Higgins, Yeah, Jalen Knowle, and you did
not see Johnny Kelly, pregnant boat goers read Blankenship or

(01:57:53):
friends that they're in love with, all on the practice
field yesterday or making their way to the practice field.
It's nice clips of the new quarterback for the Texans,
c J. Stroud throwing new look quarterback for the Texans
throwing passes to number thirteen again this offseason. Last year
that would have been Christian Kirk. This year, of course,

(01:58:13):
is Jalen Noel. Noel won of several Texans to be
wearing new gear this year. He's in number thirteen, Tanks,
in number one Lassers, and number three.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Is number eight. Got rivalry jerseys, play the games and
win them.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
They will have Rookie Mini Camp this weekend. Our pal
and co worker and a man over at kPr SAT
Channel two Aaron Wilson, indicating one, if not the only
person throwing the pill this weekend at Rookie Mini Camp
will be Clayton Tune, former U of H quarterback. He's

(01:58:49):
had a couple of stops in the NFL Arizona and
Green Bay. Recently he was at U of H throwing
the rock to Tank Dell when they were both playing
together for the Cougars. I actually brought up Graham Mertz
the other day he was out at the golf tournament.
I asked him if he would be participating in Rookie
Mini Camp because usually a quarterback like him second season

(01:59:12):
didn't play, was hurt as an opportunity. Why not have
him be the guy throwing the ball, I'd get him
on the field, go through the all those things. He
said he was uncertain if he was participating this weekend
or not, so we will see. Really don't need more
than one, but you certainly can have two. Probably keeps
Frank Ross's arm a little bit less stressed if they
have other people to throw the football. Twenty five thirty

(01:59:35):
players probably will be about the number that will be
out there for a mini camp like that. They will
have a punter, should have Jack Stonehouse out there, and
it matters because they don't have a good punter. He's
on equal footing at least with Kay Kroger, who has
one partial year of NFL experience. And these are the
two guys that as of right now are on the

(01:59:57):
roster for the Texans moving forward.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Nobody cares and Texans nobody cares.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
I will be coming to the show tomorrow after going
to rookie minicamp. How are you gonna walk out or what?
I'll have a chance to talk with Cad McDonald.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
Are you gonna walk out of camp?

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
I will talk with Keelan Rutlets.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
You're gonna walk out and do a video from Mini caamp.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
I hope to talk to dimiico O Rians as well,
and yes, I will walk out.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Guess who's not having an affair with a pregnant woman,
Demico Ryans and you and me?

Speaker 2 (02:00:26):
Thank you. No, Demiko Rans is doing great things.

Speaker 6 (02:00:30):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:00:30):
His foundation had their first event over the last week's seven.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Stop spinning your wheels so we don't talk about what
everybody's talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
The Demiico Ryans Family Foundation now thirty Diana time baby.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
When Ac got to work feverishly this morning like he
always does, cranking out around, Yeah, cranking out a rundown.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
So I know what to do.

Speaker 3 (02:00:49):
I just whatever he writes, I just follow along and
he puts it all together for it. It's it's awesome.
There have been like three more wrinkles that same. Cannot
love this story more, and I cannot love this story less.

Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
Jerry Springer, it's Dona Hue, It's all the trash team.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
It's Bravo. You should love it. This is below deck
for NFL, and boy were they below deck. I had
the first three minutes of the segment. I'm gonna do
the right thing.

Speaker 6 (02:01:20):
Yes, go for it? Do you hey?

Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
Do you want to include l Duncan or not. I'll
get you. That has nothing to do with this.

Speaker 3 (02:01:26):
She talked about it, right. It only has to do
with the actual, like the non salacious part of it.
It's a reporter or a media member talk, a television reporter,
television anchor talking about Diana Roussini and how this impacts
the workplace hers and everybody else's. I don't really think
that's what we need to get into here, that you

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can do that at some other time. That has nothing
to do with the latest the new information again to me,
not new, like you can't even write breaking anymore breaking news.
Diana Rossini and Mike Rabel have been together a lot.
Here's more evidence of the obvious and over and over.

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I'm not saying that those words in that sense.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
I did I know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
I didn't so the TMZ Sports headline, which was just
so awfully good Mike Vrabel and Diana Rossini kept things
afloat during her pregnancy.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
I caught wind of this story during the show yesterday.
We had an hour of Astros on tenth Inning Show
and then an hour of our show, and I intentionally
I wanted to present that story to you then and
tell you what the story was and then have you
hear the headline?

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
It's just insane. So I have to like the story.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
Well, like you said, I have to go backwards to
get to the oldest part of the new story. So
they rented this boat in Putnam County, Tennessee, back in
June twenty twenty one. That would be smack dab in
the middle of her pregnancy. They also where is again
the pregnancy that produced Mike mikey okay as she calls him,

(02:03:04):
who we've since found out is named after her brother. Convenient,
So you could g got saved on that one.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
As I said from the jump, that's like Michael Russini's
Super Bad. Had you come up with Mohammad? It's like
the most common name in the world. Read a book, seth,
Mike is a pretty common name. Well, he kiss mc
lovin by the way, for all right, I'm aware they
they Okay, this is what's fascinating to me. I'll get

(02:03:32):
to all the stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
But what's fascinating to me is that this stuff keeps
coming out, which means they're sitting on more.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
There's more, right, well there, it's only Thursday. There's more more.
What I know they are together. Guess what you're telling
me there together. I already know this.

Speaker 1 (02:03:51):
But until he's also out of a job, it's gonna
keep coming out.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
Sure, But why was he gonna Why is he gonna
be out of the job because they're telling us stuff
we already know, because it's becoming more and more of
a distraction. Why because it is, well it's not act
because it distraction? Yes, do you want someone to dispute
that it's a distraction? Okay, let me just ask you
this is he gonna be a liar?

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
I know you are.

Speaker 8 (02:04:15):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
I'm gonna stop talking.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Is it gonna be rookie mini camp for the Patriots
next or the tomorrow too?

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Will he be there?

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
And if he is there, what are they gonna ask
him about the punter like the Texans will be being
asked about tomorrow the way their new quarterback or their
old quarterbacks new haircut looks.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
It's my understanding, if I may, that Rabel will not
be speaking with the media during these wonder why they
already told us this week's ago their schedule has him
when he's speaking, and it wasn't it this Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
Convenient any other day, year, month he would have been
and you know it. It's only Rooky Mini Camp.

Speaker 1 (02:04:53):
Yeah, it's only Rookie Minni Camp now because you were
so with Dirty Diana.

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
And I can't stop myself. I'm here on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:05:02):
I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
In twenty twenty one, he was being paid by Amy
Adams Strunk to coach the Tennessee Titans. If you were unaware,
just from a time, use.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
Some of that money to rent a boat. Rented a boat.

Speaker 3 (02:05:11):
They had both of their signatures on the waivers necessary
to you have pictures of the signature right to rent
the boat, to go out on the boat. It was
explained to our greatest friends at TMZ that they were
careful to not have pictures taken of them.

Speaker 2 (02:05:24):
They weren't that careful.

Speaker 3 (02:05:26):
Only accepted one picture of Mike and the boat crew,
which she said please don't post anywhere, have it out anywhere,
which up until now was accurate. Well, she's not idiot.
He's on a boat with a crew. That's all that
that photo shows. That's was the story yesterday. The very
same story had additions to it today since now, all

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of a sudden, five years later, they have video of
them walking along the dock to the boat. Well, not
just any video Pregger's video. Now, I know you're gonna
hate this, and I wish I had other video to
look at it with. I can't see enough of the
pregnant woman to say one way or the other it

(02:06:06):
is or isn't her. I'm literally studying Mike Rabel's body
and his walk and trying in our line to say,
I don't think that's him.

Speaker 2 (02:06:16):
Oh my gosh, why are you doing this? Lean into it,
embrace it. We need this.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
If this were happening next May, I would be ecstatic
because we wouldn't have any baseball to talk about.

Speaker 6 (02:06:28):
I got you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
It would be all Vrabel Russini all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:06:32):
Okay, so they we found out yesterday they ranted a
boat together in twenty twenty one, and we found out
today we have video of them running a boat together
in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (02:06:39):
Anything else, well, we have audio probably given prior to
the discovery of or the release of the doc video
from Mike Vrabel's current quarterback. His name's Drake May. What
do you think he had to say about his swell
fella of a coach. Yeah, we're here for coach. We
love coach. You know what he does for us? What

(02:06:59):
he's done for us this past year. You can't speak
into words, and just thankful he's our head coach. And
I know he's deals with some stuff off the field
and out of the coaching world, but you know we're here.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
For him, and I know he's gonna come back. Yeah,
you left out the best part of all Tutor he was.

Speaker 3 (02:07:14):
I think he gave an enter television interview which we
heard there at an event, and also gave a different
interview to the Associated Press.

Speaker 2 (02:07:21):
What did he say to them?

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
Well after Mike had given the SoundBite. My previous actions
don't meet the standard that I hold myself too.

Speaker 2 (02:07:30):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (02:07:32):
Drake May said quote, I know he's got the right mindset,
and I know he's a great human being. I think he's,
like I said, I love playing for him. He stopped himself.
I think he's I like playing for him.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
He was gonna say, I think he's the greatest life
coach ever.

Speaker 3 (02:07:50):
Now, the element of the personal nature of this whole
everything with Rabel, his wife, his kids, we really don't
know anything about that. I think the assumption whenever or
anything like this comes up extra marital relationships, we assume
it's an extremely awful thing, and the people involved are
very very hurt, and hearing from Mike Vrabel and the

(02:08:12):
serious conversations he's had to have, that makes it seem
like the other person, his wife, Jen is hurt by this.
I think that's true. I imagine that's true. We all
assume it's true. But now we're trying to also assume
that they were in a relationship, he and Diana for
five or six years, and she just found out about it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:33):
And that's key relationship. This wasn't a fling, This wasn't
even an extended affair.

Speaker 2 (02:08:39):
This was a relate. They were boyfriend and girlfriend. They
went boating together, pregnant one of them. He is pregnant
with emotion. I mean, I get we've.

Speaker 1 (02:08:50):
Talked about Mike Vrabel's wife at times and how what
she must be going through. I know there was that
rumor that was totally unfounded and untrue. He had asked
for a paternity test. Why wouldn't you Right now you
just saw video of her with him, pregnant with what
you think is your child six months along.

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
Might not be news to him, it might be.

Speaker 3 (02:09:13):
It's hard to say where things are with the information
train between Diana and her husband.

Speaker 1 (02:09:17):
For both of them, because could you imagine dealing with
this just finding out with it this publicly, well.

Speaker 3 (02:09:22):
The very beginning, just finding out about it publicly when
it broke. It seems like that is what happened. Like
someone's diabolical dropping this stuff like every few days what
tends to make it worse, just like every other scenario.
Oh gosh, I'm sorry, I love you, whatever you wanted
to say. But and then when you're telling them the
truth and divulging everything that happened, you're not. And then

(02:09:45):
they've said this is everything. You're telling me everything, yes,
and then more stuff is made public that doesn't fit
what you told them.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
Did you see Calci or wherever it was.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
He's now down to like sixty something percent of being
their coach next year after this.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
That is definitely only the part of it that matters
the most.

Speaker 3 (02:10:01):
Didn't get to the only other real football item of
the day during Football at five, Aaron Rodgers was just
going to play for the Steelers dum.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
Where he was visiting the facilities.

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
Well, that was reported by one of the stations ninety
three to seven in Pittsburgh this morning, and hopefully they
get more credit for it, because then all the Nationals
decided it was their story when it wasn't. He's going
to be there this weekend apparently, and will likely sign
his contract for the upcoming season. They don't necessarily have
a deal in place today. They had put that very
unique tag on him, tender on him, but it basically meant,

(02:10:33):
if you're playing football, you're playing for us, and that's
what we all knew thought would happen.

Speaker 1 (02:10:37):
And you think Troy Aikman and Scott Van Pelt want
their goodbye soliloquies back after the Texans destroyed him.

Speaker 3 (02:10:45):
I know you might, as an older player, think two ways.
He clearly played well enough to return, but he might
not want to return if he can't return and play for.

Speaker 1 (02:10:55):
A super Bowl or something very close to it. Yeah,
as Matt Thomas said today, he'll be nine to eight.

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:11:00):
There, he's gonna play for another season with Mike McCarthy,
which she's done before. He's playing with a competitive team.
They've probably, in my opinion, they've made some moves that
might make them better. I like some of the things
that they now have at their disposal offensively, so it
could be better. But now he has to at least
repeat what he did as an old quarterback. At least

(02:11:21):
repeat that, and then they obviously have to Their offensive
line is possibly the shakiest part because of some of
the losses and changes they'll be making, and that was
the weakest part of their team. Clearly, the Texans exposed
them for being unable to protect him, and they turned
the ball over and they got clobbered. But he's gonna return.
He's going to be the Steelers quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:11:39):
That's that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
The football angle of Mike Vrabel not coaching.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
The patriotsweet, Well, there's also one other ankle, and all
his answers are no one cares do better.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
Who's answer is that would be? That would be something.

Speaker 3 (02:11:58):
Apologize like that put out there, and maybe he could
glom onto that. It's better than I'm just here so
I don't get fined. I can appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:05):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
But what what new news You're calling all of this
new news? What difference does any of it make? What's
different about it? What matters about it that makes you
change your opinion on what the Patriots have already clearly
said without saying it, He's not getting fired.

Speaker 1 (02:12:23):
In my opinion, and I share this opinion with and
I can't remember who it was, some guy. I almost
put this into the rundown to play it, but it's
just it got too much in the weeds, even though
it's what you're always asking me, what could he possibly
have actually done to get fired?

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
Which again, yeah, I mean they.

Speaker 3 (02:12:40):
Know what he's done, right, so me what's gett him fired?

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
The most fireable offense for Vrabel actually didn't happen with
his current employer. It's and what this guy was saying
was that basically he probably colluded with Roussini in her
role as a reporter to lower the value of a
player that at once time was a marquee name and

(02:13:07):
was on the last legs of his career, Julio Jones,
to get him to Mike's team at the time, the Titans,
for a lower draft pick, lower value compensation than he
would have been had for by another team that wasn't
coached by Mike Vrabel.

Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
So you believe, but that the media has a powerful
enough pen to do that, well, are you getting your
information as a front office from what you've read? H
and I'm probably saying it in two sarcastic away. Are
you getting it from what you find out in the media,
what you've seen, read and written about and talked about,
or are you getting it from your sources within.

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
The league and the other team. Here's my answer to that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:48):
If you're trying, and I'm not saying you're doing this,
but if you're trying to look at this as the
media is not that powerful, they can't change personnel decisions,
well it's then why is for example, Jaylen Brown allowing
Tracy McGrady to go out there now as a member
of the media and say he's not happy in Boston.
That got the attention of the Celtics so much that

(02:14:10):
their team president had to address it in an end
of season presser. This is why.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
That's what it is. I might, I might portray. Oh,
the media can't do this, they can't do it. That's
not it. That's not accurate. Why did agents go through
the media to put this out there?

Speaker 12 (02:14:22):
To that?

Speaker 3 (02:14:23):
Why the teams? Oh my god, I can't believe. Wink wink,
this got leaked from our faciety.

Speaker 1 (02:14:28):
Ian Rappaport in Mouthpiece for Bill O'Brien, Texans coach, no.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
Question about it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
And then to the point that it can actually impact
player movement. I think we might have to acknowledge that
if not for that, I mean, I don't know where
the Titans would have been in twenty twenty one without
Julio Jones thirty one catches.

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
That's the wow part.

Speaker 3 (02:14:44):
Yeah, No, I can acknowledge there's probably something there. But again,
if you're you got to look at it from who's
who's doing it for? Like did the Titans fire him
because they found out he was having an affair with
Diana Versini and it was helping their team?

Speaker 2 (02:14:55):
I doubt it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:56):
You know, it's funny Hatriot's gonna fire Mike Rabel because
he he had a reporter in his pocket and it
helped them with player acquisition somehow.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
No, they like that as per usual.

Speaker 1 (02:15:07):
I can always bring this back to Jerry McGuire, the
quote that Drake May gave where he's like, I know
he's got the right mindset, and I know he's a
great human being that is completely and perfectly and religious
to analogous analogous, Yes, thank you thanks for picking me
up there to when Jerry maguire turns to face the

(02:15:30):
cameras after his client has been hauled in in handcuffed
and says, there is no proof of anything this guy
has been accused of, except for he is a sensational athlete.
That's Drake May right now talking about Mike Rabel. Yeah,
it's very This is my guy, this is my team,
this is my coach.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
He's beast to say this, by the way, but he
just he's having to say this.

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
And that's the part where at some point, mister, I
visit orchids of Asia and I've had double murderers on
my team, and I've had Bill Belichick and all the
drama that Robert Kraft dealt with as they were winning.
He's gonna have to look at his quarter or his
head coach that just took the team to the super
Bowl in his first year and start weighing whether or

(02:16:12):
not it is a distraction. And if what, who's the
reporter that was talking about He's not himself around the facility,
Albert Breer. If Albert Breer, who I think is another
respectable guy, definitely has intel in their building. If he's
coming out and saying that, like, do you know how
bad that would make Mike Vrabel look if he didn't
want him to say that.

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
Which could lead to his firing. Because it could lead
to him coaching more poorly. Coach could lead to losses,
which is why any coach gets fired.

Speaker 1 (02:16:40):
Yeah, look, if you think that the Patriots is gonna
pick up where they left off and once they get
Aj Brown on their team, because remember that's what this
has all been about. Like, if you think they're just
gonna coast to and again, they're not playing a third
play schedule.

Speaker 2 (02:16:56):
You know, I'd love to bring that up.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
Think about when Deshaun Watson was going through things and
was going to now be on the field for the Browns.
Ultimately his first game was here in Houston. It's going
to be a part of your visits to every other city,
your story, Mike's story now and.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
Then the crowd if they don't confiscate them the oh,
you guys have started three and four. You just lost
to the Dolphins, and now you're doing your pros game
presser in your Miami and drama distraction to the team
right now, you're gonna hear that, like, and that's instantly.

Speaker 3 (02:17:23):
Some of this is gonna come from the local traveling
media that's with the might also come from the opponents
media that's now there and has an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (02:17:31):
Dan Shaughnessy not written a linked all. I forgot. That's
because he's a total Boston Homer.

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
If this were about any other team, he would be
like furiously on his type or his keyboard right now
trying to write a story.

Speaker 2 (02:17:41):
At least one other element of the story.

Speaker 3 (02:17:43):
As we wrap this segment up, and we'll get to
it again tomorrow and every day until the end of time. Yes,
you familiar with at Mike Underscore Master.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
Maybe, but it doesn't ring a bell.

Speaker 3 (02:17:57):
Believed to be a burner for Mike Rabel since deleted,
but we have screen caps we do and I every
time this burner idea comes up with Kevin and the
Phoenix burner account, Colangelo Colangelo Philadelphia burner account, and this
one like somebody that knows Rabel, somebody that backs Rabel,

(02:18:21):
a friend of Rabel, someone in his circle of someone
with his eight It could be any number of people.

Speaker 2 (02:18:24):
Is it really like a burner account?

Speaker 3 (02:18:27):
I think is supposed to mean Verrabel is sitting at
home on his second phone and he is actually typing
these things out.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
This is the backline. I have to take this cart exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:18:37):
He's this supposed account has been backing Rabel and been
harshly criticizing everybody else for saying the things they've said,
not really so much about what's happened here, but stuff
they've found in the past they believe to have been him,
Like basically football support.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
To me, a wide receiver for the Patriots last year
that caught a huge touchdown pass in the postseason, just
got acquitted for assaulting his cook. That was really a
girlfriend on the side, and it's like a blip on
the radar compared to this. Grake was asked about that
as well. He's supported a great human being. Hopes he
gets catches almost I actually he probably said she's a
great human being.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
We do have tickets to give away more Jack Johnson
show seats for us to put you in and in
case you missed it is next.

Speaker 4 (02:19:21):
The Age.

Speaker 2 (02:19:23):
The final segment of the show is next go about
fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:19:26):
That's when we'll give away tickets to go see Jack
Johnson live on this for music tour August twenty eighth
the Woodlands Pavilion. So you'll want to call in then
with information that you've heard on the show already. Usually
something we talked about in the five o'clock hour is
what we will ask you about in the final segment
that regurgitates and say, yeah, man, I love the eight
team so much. I remember what you said, and I

(02:19:47):
know the answer to that question you asked about. What
you said five o'clock was football. At five we talked
a lot of on the field football only Actually we
talked about Mike Braville and Dane Orsini and then talked
about Mike Rabel and Diana Rossini.

Speaker 2 (02:20:02):
And here we are in case you missed it.

Speaker 3 (02:20:04):
So something from one of those two segments, or something
you hear in the next handful of minutes is likely
what we will ask you about.

Speaker 2 (02:20:10):
To go get your hands on those tickets.

Speaker 5 (02:20:13):
What do we have today?

Speaker 2 (02:20:14):
In case you missed it, Josh Yeah, ESPN dropping another
NFL article.

Speaker 8 (02:20:19):
I thought this was an interesting title, biggest roster holes
that need to be addressed. And we turned to the
Texans and where did they pick.

Speaker 2 (02:20:27):
They went with edge rusher depth.

Speaker 8 (02:20:29):
We know they're loaded with their starters, but they point
out that Derek Barnett still not with the team he's unsigned,
and Nico Autry as well. They point out some of
the guys they do have. Also some other guys that
are available. It's on Raddick, Joey Bosa, Leonard, Floyd Barnett, Natri.
Like I said, still out there. You guys agree, is
that that edge rusher depth the biggest hole for the Texans.

Speaker 2 (02:20:50):
That's a pretty good team. If that's your biggest hole.

Speaker 3 (02:20:54):
I don't know biggest, but yes, I would agree, definitely
a hole. They have z zero people on the roster,
the entire roster after Will Anderson Junior and Danielle Hunter
that they should feel good about. I don't mean to
be so anti Dylan Horton, who's been a nice player,
former fourth round pick, obviously got over some very serious

(02:21:16):
health issue and that's phenomenal. And he was a reserve
edge last year along with Derek Barnett.

Speaker 2 (02:21:24):
But he's.

Speaker 3 (02:21:26):
He's a player they will probably replace after this year.
Dominique Robinson was one of the guys they've brought they
have brought in. Xavier Thomas is another player they have
brought in, and that's really all they have. Solomon byrd
will have now been on the roster with the team
since the twenty twenty four draft. He's never gotten consistent
playing time, has been on the active game day roster

(02:21:47):
on just a couple of occasions, so one hundred percent
this position. If I had to tell you, if I
had to guarantee you one position on the Texans that
will be addressed between now and and camp, or at
least the season opener, which might be on the road
this year, it would be edge. I really truly believe
they recognize that. They know that one of the names

(02:22:09):
that you mentioned wouldn't surprise me at all. I'm not
sure how they view which one of them is the
best fit. I feel like Reddick might be the player
that could give this team the most in that role.
They will want to continue rotating their ends like they
did last year. Will Anderson Junior is a seventy five
to eighty three percent snapcount player and Daniel Hunter's right

(02:22:30):
there with him. That leaves eleven plays, fifteen plays, twenty
one plays in any given week, depending on how that
game goes. For the reserve edges, they had them last
year with Barnett and Horton, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:22:43):
Know who they will be this year.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
I would assume if Darrek Barnett wants to continue playing
football and he doesn't have a better place to go,
they probably could find some common ground, but what's wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:22:53):
With trying to be better?

Speaker 3 (02:22:54):
And I think he was really good as a reserve,
but there might be a better option out there for them.
Definitely a position of need, and I'm not even sure
what other positions I would put in the same boat
as that biggest area of need. There's players they need.
They're gonna add a veteran receiver. I'm sure they're gonna
bring in another running back for competition. Whether or not
those players are a part of rookie minticamp will start

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to find out that answer. I probably have a little
bit more help in the secondary because they really don't
know for certain who takes those first snaps as a reserve,
reserve safety or reserve cornerback. But those are all players
that aren't even gonna be on the field ever. This
is a player who will play every single game for
the Texans, fifteen to ten twenty snaps a game.

Speaker 2 (02:23:38):
That's what the difference is.

Speaker 1 (02:23:39):
That's why I would, I guess talk myself into agreeing
the biggest hole, the biggest need, by the way, edge rush,
by the way, it's because they're so good, they don't
have a lot of holes, right edge rushing depth and
a player you just mentioned and something we've talked about
in the past, Junji Davion Clowney, and you're the Houston
Texans ZII union on the horizon.

Speaker 3 (02:24:00):
I'd be curious to see how they view him. He's
still very he's very good in smaller doses, like he
has been for both of his last couple of stops.
I think he would be a good addition. He would
definitely know his role. I don't think they're being in
confusion about it. I don't think he's capable of playing heavy,
heavy snaps anymore. He's still very good against the run

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and as a reserve as rusher. Could he do what
they're asking?

Speaker 2 (02:24:25):
I think he could.

Speaker 3 (02:24:27):
I don't know how they feel about him, and I'm
always curious what you know. He's been in the league
now for since twenty fourteen. Debiko Ryans has been on
the coaching staff in the league for most of that time,
whether it was San Francisco or here. I'm just curious
what kind of player he thinks he is, what kind
of person fit those types of things. They're very swarmy
here in Houston.

Speaker 2 (02:24:48):
Is he a swarmer?

Speaker 3 (02:24:49):
I mean, at this stage of his career for what
they're asking for. Like Derek Barnett a couple of years ago,
they added in the middle of the season he played
for Philadelphia. He was on the Super Bowl caliber defense
for multiple seasons and they just weren't getting from him
what they wanted.

Speaker 2 (02:25:02):
They let him go.

Speaker 3 (02:25:03):
The Texans outed him. I don't really see a whole
lot of difference in a move similar to that. Interesting
what else do we have? I thought this was interesting.
NFL dot Com NFL bandwagons to jump on. Now this
list includes players, and includes teams, and it includes coaches.
There's only three teams listed, the Chargers, the Cowboys, and

(02:25:24):
your Houston Texans.

Speaker 8 (02:25:25):
And I love this first line. Like every other living,
breathing football fan on Planet Earth. I enjoy watching the
Texans play defense.

Speaker 2 (02:25:33):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (02:25:34):
So like fans that want to love the NFL that
need a team jump on the Texans bandwagon for that reason.

Speaker 1 (02:25:42):
And fans that root for the other team in Texas
who know they'll never do anything, get on the team
that has the most upside in the state and it
ain't Dallas.

Speaker 3 (02:25:51):
I saw another list. I think it was bet MGM.
I think put out a list of the best. I
guess it was just the best, and they had the
Texans at number one, and a lot of people have
liked what they've done in the offseason. I guess mainly
adding Reid blanket ship solidifying financially the rest of the defense.
But that's really the only great change they made. And

(02:26:13):
just like the edge rushers, Kad m McDonald is if
as long as he plays like he should, he's playing
every week. He's not going to start every week, I
don't think. But he's on the field for twenty five
thirty thirty five snaps a game as a reserve interior
defensive lineman or potentially someone who could unseat TOJII. Obviously,
his rise to a starter was rapid and so much

(02:26:35):
short lived because there's only so much season that he
was in that role after the injuries to Settle and
Edwards Junior.

Speaker 2 (02:26:41):
But that's where they are. They are.

Speaker 3 (02:26:45):
They a fun team to watch because their defense is
so good, because they're definitely the opposite in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:26:51):
Offensively, they were not a fun offense to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:26:54):
You would watch and you'd be like, can't wait till
the defense gets back out there, because this sucks.

Speaker 3 (02:26:58):
And all the defense is trying to do is make
you have three unsuccessful plays and punt like you get
it back to the offense. This sucks. And they were
at the top of the league in terms of forcing
three and outs and getting the offense the football.

Speaker 1 (02:27:10):
I mean, just a game manager style quarterback performance and
you're totally parading.

Speaker 3 (02:27:15):
I think we will hear from Jason mccordy tomorrow on
why he is bullish on CJ.

Speaker 2 (02:27:23):
Stroud in twenty twenty six. It's the haircut.

Speaker 3 (02:27:26):
What else we will if we have anything else? We
get to that in the final segment of the show.
Do I have those tickets I mentioned? And if you
like ac have a lot of money to spend, I'll
tell you how much you'll need to spend if you
want to go hang out with Baron's dad and Daniel

(02:27:48):
White at the White House for UFC event.

Speaker 1 (02:27:52):
Some people are calling this the greatest UFC event in
the history of the UFC and America.

Speaker 2 (02:27:58):
And we'll do that next the eight Hey, what what now,
my friend?

Speaker 13 (02:28:05):
What now?

Speaker 2 (02:28:05):
We should give away concert tickets Jack Johnson.

Speaker 3 (02:28:10):
It's going to be playing at the Woodlands Pavilion on
August twenty eighth, if you do not win a pair
of tickets from us here right now, you can get
tickets at ticketmaster dot com to go see this live
show or the Suffield Music Tour on August twenty eighth
Woodlands Pavilion. If you were listening to the program, you
know all the answer to this very simple question. We

(02:28:32):
talked about it during the five o'clock hour because you
were listening, because we love you and we appreciate you
listening and enjoying the show, even participating in the show,
not just to win tickets, but we are happy to give.

Speaker 2 (02:28:42):
Them to you. You'll know the answer to this simple question.

Speaker 3 (02:28:44):
You can call in at seven one three two one
two five seven ninety seven one three two one two
five seven ninety somehow on a not Anything in Goes Friday,
we discussed the Patriots head coach at length all almost
the entire five o'clock hour andes Thursday. It was released

(02:29:08):
via TMZ Sports yesterday that a boat excursion took place
with Mike and Diana on it, and it was released
by TMZ Sports today that we can now visualize Mike
and Diana on the dock, all three of them approaching
the boat a pregnant Diana and the coach at the

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time of the Tennessee Titans, Mike Rabel. The question we
have for you is, as they signed their releases to
take out this charter boat and hop on board with
the crew, in what Tennessee county were they in.

Speaker 2 (02:29:50):
I love this. I love that you're asking it. It's
even better than I thought it would be. What Tennessee county.

Speaker 3 (02:29:57):
Did Mike Rabel and Diane Anna Rossini charter a boat
together in twenty twenty one, prior to her giving birth
to my child. She was pregnant with Mikey at the time.
What's the name of the county where they went on
this boat together.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
That Amy thumb Strunk Adams financed with her money she
paid to Mikey.

Speaker 2 (02:30:25):
Presumably.

Speaker 3 (02:30:26):
I mean, I don't know how to think. I'm not
sure how they spent the money. It could have been
on him, it could have been Dutch. Well, something tells
me could have helped fop the ball.

Speaker 2 (02:30:36):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:30:38):
There are actually again, Colin, if you know what county
they were on a boat in, which is I cannot
believe this is.

Speaker 1 (02:30:43):
Where we are.

Speaker 2 (02:30:44):
Well, it's their fault, not mine.

Speaker 3 (02:30:47):
What where do you think? How do you think these
like when they were Here's some photographs of them at
random bar. Here's some photographs of them at random casino.

Speaker 2 (02:30:58):
This is the worst.

Speaker 3 (02:30:59):
No, it's not about the worst. It's where are these
people being found? Or are they not being found? Did
somebody already had this waiting for this? And if somebody
already had this waiting for this, how close to the
two of them is that person?

Speaker 2 (02:31:13):
And how much does they get wronged to do this?

Speaker 3 (02:31:16):
Is it her husband who has this stuff and is
now really trying to make the lives of these two
and many other people awful?

Speaker 2 (02:31:24):
Is it his wife? Is it somebody else?

Speaker 3 (02:31:27):
I mean the because it's not randomness of what has
surfaced since this story first became a story.

Speaker 1 (02:31:34):
Yeah, is wild because if it's not them, how this
That's why I said this is the work.

Speaker 3 (02:31:41):
It's a person who talked to Vrabel on the boat
that day and was told, I'll take a picture with
you guys, you and the crew, please, don't you know,
put these on your website, post them anywhere else, post
please do that for me. And they said absolutely, They
took a picture with him, and maybe they told their
friend we charted a boat with Mike Coach Rabel. It
was great, No no, no, no, d and that's it.
And now this story broke and they realized Mike Rabel

(02:32:02):
wash that's we knew her name. Obviously we were didn't
know anything about it, about it or we did know
all this, but we weren't here to whistle blow, and
so we didn't. But now that it's out there, we're
not the whistleblowers anymore. Do they reach out and say,
I don't know if you at TMZ would be interested
in this, but we've got documentation of this and the

(02:32:22):
video was this somebody who's with the boat crew, because
where the video's taken from, it could have been anybody. Well,
my thing about this being, as we're discussed during the break,
why did we care? We care because it's just I'm sorry,
Like the NFL is king is part of this.

Speaker 2 (02:32:40):
By the way, if this I knew there was one
other item, here's what it was.

Speaker 3 (02:32:44):
Okay, the rest of the NFL, not the Patriots, not
their foes, the whole rest of the NFL, including the Patriots,
they want this to go away. Well, they don't want
anybody involved. Coach Rabel or maybe more importantly, Diana to
hate this story and how it has been, how it

(02:33:07):
has impacted her life this way to make her feel
like I know things about people and here they are,
or other people that could have been involved with her,
other reporters that could have been involved with other front
office people, male or female, and that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:33:24):
Do you want to know what Mike Rabel and I mean,
do you want to know what Roger Goodell and Rob
Manford have in common? What is it I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna blow your mind with this tying it all together.
Roger Goodell came out and said, what nothing not a issue,
it's a team issue. Yeah, he basically said, nothing to
see here, even though there's nothing from us to see here. Well,

(02:33:45):
we're not going to punish him as a league doesn't
fall under our purveyance. What did Rob Manford come out
and say, there's only one team doing this. They're the
exact same guy.

Speaker 3 (02:33:54):
They they they have punished two other teams. There's a
Yankees letter and then like that. No, not like them,
but did punish these.

Speaker 1 (02:34:04):
Two commissioners for the same reason. Want this to be
neat and tidy put a bow on it.

Speaker 2 (02:34:11):
Get it out. Of the way, because they will.

Speaker 1 (02:34:13):
Then if not the opposite happens what you just said
will happen, it will expose further dirty laundry, whether it's
reporters with front office types, or coaches or any number
of things. Because once the proverbial can of worms is opened,
you can't put that genie back in the bottle, toothpaste

(02:34:33):
back in the tube.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (02:34:35):
That's all I got. I mean, it's it's the same concept.
It's a different topic, but it's still cheating.

Speaker 3 (02:34:42):
Well, I can't have us finishing the show with only
this in almost the entire five o'clock hour.

Speaker 2 (02:34:46):
Very Happy, You Love the UFC.

Speaker 3 (02:34:49):
In the event coming up at the White House, Ariel
Hawani went through what appears to maybe be more of
a corporate offering, but there are certain packages available to
go see this event at the White House to fifty
celebrating two fifty America.

Speaker 2 (02:35:04):
We love it so.

Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
On his program, he ran through the parameters of this
partner's investment and then we'll all make a guess on
how much it costs.

Speaker 14 (02:35:14):
Partner investment is what it's being called Freedom two fifty
Partner Welcome Reception, Press Conference, reserve seating ceremonial weigh ins,
General admission access.

Speaker 2 (02:35:26):
This is on the thirteenth.

Speaker 14 (02:35:28):
Zach Brown Band Concert Access UFC three twenty nine four tickets,
WW event integration rings, signage.

Speaker 2 (02:35:38):
What's the price? Well, it's gonna have an M in
front of it. Is it gonna start in a million?

Speaker 6 (02:35:47):
More?

Speaker 2 (02:35:48):
Okay? Do you actually know the answer? I think I do.

Speaker 3 (02:35:52):
Well, he and his other voices started guessing, and then
he gives the price, and you heard all the things
that go along with it.

Speaker 2 (02:35:59):
Not really all that money, high dollar items.

Speaker 3 (02:36:01):
Maybe the signage is a particularly large investment, but it's wild.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna say twenty grand. You got fifty fifty grand?
Four rick? What I said?

Speaker 14 (02:36:13):
Twenty twenty twenty? The actual retail price one point five million?

Speaker 3 (02:36:19):
What? What?

Speaker 2 (02:36:21):
Well?

Speaker 6 (02:36:21):
Do you know? Why? No?

Speaker 1 (02:36:22):
Why there's only forty three hundred seats on the White
House lawn. I mean, I think Trump himself has even
said most of the tickets are going to go to
military service members.

Speaker 2 (02:36:33):
He did mention all that.

Speaker 3 (02:36:34):
I just didn't play there segmenting off tickets go to
this group, but there's a bunch of section off of
that group.

Speaker 1 (02:36:39):
There's never going to be an event like this ever
again unless they do it here, because you can't.

Speaker 2 (02:36:45):
There's only one White House and you get to go
for one point three. We have a winner. Yep, what's
the answer again? People like this county one of my
favorite counties. I was a big winner there, Bigley.

Speaker 1 (02:36:58):
They voted for me big and then Diana Dirty Diana
and Mike Rabel got on a boat.

Speaker 2 (02:37:03):
She was already pregnant.

Speaker 3 (02:37:05):
He's into that, Yeah, hanging out with her, obviously hanging out.
We're gonna do another show tomorrow, and we're gonna give
you as much of our show as we can give
to you before the Astros and Reds get together. We
got a nightcap coming your way next right here on
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