Texans Crushed By The Ravens, Game Plan To Blame and Worried About CJ

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named at him talking your Teams.
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the A Team A Team.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
What's Up, Houston, Texas.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
It is a Thursday edition of the A Team Sports
Talk seven, ninety day after Christmas. I hope everybody had
a happy holiday yesterday with friends and family and all
that good stuff. As we jump back into things, I
don't think wex that yesterday. If people did consider it
a good day, which I did, I'm sure you did

(00:41):
as well. You had out of town family festivities. I
had in town for a change after being out of
town all last week. I can tell you that I
had the Texans game on in the room as gifts
were being exchanged.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I my dad watched the chagrin of my wife, what
you do all morning?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, there was the initial wave of the immediate family
that was in the morning, and then extended family came
over and that coincided with, you.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Know, the first Christmas kind of but not for Christmases.
I watched it this weekend, Well it is like the
week last week. Yeah, now I watched it. Watch them.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's very good, but it just it was one of
those things where with about a buck twenty or so
remaining in the first half.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
It was like click, no, I'm here for the listeners, man,
you play a game. I'm in I watched it all.
They didn't play a game, though the Ravens did.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
They played. The Texans did not. They didn't play well.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I mean, listen, I know that they've got a bad
offensive line and it was bad as being nice because
of the you know, injuries and just overall like if
they were fully healthy this year.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
That wouldn't be a good offensive line.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
But you take the worst parts of that line and
then you replace them with even worse players than the starters,
you're going to have what you had, you know on
on Wednesday's game. But it is just like I have
no doubt, like I saw you tweet yesterday about the
fact this will be a Davis Mills game in all
likelihood coming up against the Titans, as it should.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
But great, I have no.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
There's no illusions about what's going to happen when they
line up against whomever in that first round matchup.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh it's a home game.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Great, you want your crappy division, so you're going to
lose at home instead of going on the road and losing.
That's what's gonna happen when they play in the most
in the post.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
I guess it's it's like the worst team they've ever
taken to the playoffs, which it probably isn't going to
lose to.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
They just don't lose at home in the playoffs, do they?
They lost once, right, they're about to. Okay, we'll see
a lot going on yesterday in the game to get
into but it was a lot more of the same.
That's why you've been asking this question repeatedly all season long.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Do they look any better at anybody? Does the offense
look any better?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
And heck, I'm not trying to give the offensive line
any kind of break or anything. The offensive line had
next to nothing to do with yesterday's loss. They were
the same they've always been. You want a free rusher
here and there over a drive in the first quarter,
maybe another one in the second, have at it. You
want us to block poorly for the running game, we
can do that. But as much as he admitted it himself, CJ.

(03:10):
Stroud definitely had his worst game in my opinion as
a pro. The way I look at it is he
had a chance to succeed. This wasn't a day where
they were playing the Jets on Halloween and the offensive line,
or they were playing the Jets last year in the
rain and he just had no chance and he was
getting crushed, or other games this year where the same
thing was true, snapdrop, look down. That really didn't happen

(03:34):
in this game. Often for the fifty plays that he
was out there for. What happened was you had a
bad day. Oh you're open, Well, I'm not gonna throw
it near you. All your hands are up in the air.
How about catching it with your feet? Good luck, You
had a bad day. Not saying he's a bad quarterback,
although the play this year suggests that that ought to
be something we consider.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Do you have enough stock do you have enough.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Saved up from his rookie season to be sure that
this isn't him and that was versus this is him?
And that wasn't certainly a question worth discussing. We've got
today and tomorrow and a week without a game until
they schedule their final game of the season, and it
has no bearing on the Texans anymore from a seeding standpoint.

(04:17):
With their loss to the Ravens, they locked up the
four seed. They are very, very familiar with it, and
the hierarchy of the AFC certainly suggests that's exactly where
they belong. They're definitely the worst of the three division winners.
They've now played them all, presuming that Pittsburgh doesn't fall
on their face against an even worse team next week
when they play the Browns, because if they don't, they
win the division, and that's one of the teams ahead

(04:41):
of you.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
They haven't locked up the third seed yet. But unless
the Bills lose twice to.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Really really bad teams, Baltimore's going to be three, Buffalo
is going to be two, Kansas City's going to be one.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You have played all three of them.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
You just played Lamar Jackson's offense with your presumable better
defense than your offense. That's fair. The Texans have a
better defense than offense. Correct rhetorical, they do. You have
forced zero takeaways against Lamar Jackson and gave up five scores,
four of them touchdowns, and the most yards you've given
up all season long. You faced Josh Allen, and while

(05:18):
you did hold him to nine of thirty, and while
you did win the game, you also forced zero turnovers
and you face Pat Mahomes a couple of games back,
same story. You've forced zero turnovers, it gave up too
many points, and you lost the game. These are the
teams if you want to win in the playoffs when
it matters, Because even if AC says they're gonna lose

(05:38):
the opener and I say they're gonna win the opener,
nobody really cares unless they win the next game, you know,
the game they've never won before, the game that truly
means you've accomplished something worthwhile. In discussion for where your
franchise is, presumably it's one of those three teams waiting
for them unless one of the two that has to
play gets upset. That doesn't look like what we saw

(06:00):
on Wednesday has any chance of happening at all or
close to it. And the players sounded like they knew it.
Yeah after the game. Yeah, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
For whatever reason, I was somewhat optimistic walking into Arrowhead
Stadium last Saturday, just because I saw what the Texans,
you know, defensive defensive front primarily was capable of doing.
Two other quarterbacks, even if I knew that it was
Pat Mahomes, and even if I knew that the gimpy

(06:33):
ankle that was sold so egregiously in the first few
hours after that game against Cleveland the week prior was
total horse bleep.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
It was sold the opposite way. Moments later. He practiced
full every practice he was signed.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, so once once that happened, you know that, you know,
you knew who you were dealing with other in other words,
but I still felt good because of what you just said.
The Texans defense has been better than the offense all season,
and the Texans defense was playing well going into that game,
I suppose. I mean, it was Miami, so it's not
like it was an also ram, but it, you know,
wasn't the Jags. You know, the confidence level I had

(07:11):
was probably unfounded a little bit, but I was like,
that's how much I admire what they've done defensively this year.
I never thought that the offense was going to just
put up tons of points. My only question at this
we can talk before the season, Well, I knew that
a couple of factors were probably going to come into
play as to c J. Stroud not necessarily looking like

(07:35):
the world beater he did a year prior. One, the
offensive line still sucked, and two, their schedule was tougher,
and this was the most brutal stretch. You could have
played anybody during this stretch, and it would have been brutal.
The fact that the three teams you played were the
teams you played. Miami just had a bad day on
top of it. You made that day bad as part

(07:56):
of the situation. But these other two teams just outclash you.
It looked like, even though the Texans were competitive with
the Chiefs right up until the time, Tank Dell's career ended.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
By the way, probably not well. I mean, I don't know, man.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
I mean, you name the cl he did break it,
tear it, crucify it, and there's the knee issue. He's
probably not playing in twenty twenty five. I'm not ready
to say his career is over yet, and I might
be a very group of one.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm not saying it is. It's just
you talk about long road back. Well, go back to
the game itself. So they had a chance to win,
they were playing competitive football. They could have tied the
game moments later with an extra point after that touchdown, Yes,
but they've done that throughout the year against a bunch
of teams like Kansas City that game, like Green Bay

(08:48):
and many other games, did you really feel like The
difference to me is they've competed it against almost all
of the good teams they've played. Didn't compete yesterday, didn't
compete against the Minnesota. But even in the games they
won or lost against those teams, I never felt like
I felt last year, Oh they got this Cej's coming
back on the field, they'll do. Oh their defense is

(09:09):
gonna get that stop that they've got to have, And
this is with a better defense this year. I just
I don't know if everybody else feels that way. I
certainly do. I do think.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
They're clearly they are a little bit better than twenty
nine points worse than the Ravens. And I'm probably in
the camp that says I even, you know, type it
out on a graphic, write it out, you know, getting
ready for the show. Thirty one to two seems ridiculous.
Thirty one to nothing seems like you played a football game.
Thirty one to two seems ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Like something went right, but that's it.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
And again, for those five and a half minutes, could
have been ten to five, could have been ten to ten.
But like has been the case most of this twenty
twenty four season. They don't really utilize they haven't really
been able to take advantage of certain things, and usually
that's attached to momentum. They have a hard time getting
it and they have a really, really, really hard time
hanging on to it, especially offensively. You did make a

(10:02):
good play. You got back to back tackles for loss
from Will Anderson. You turned around the very next time
they got the ball, and you get Derrick Henry down
in the end zone with one of your defensive backs,
with Kamari Lassiter, you have a great return. Immediately after that,
you're basically in position to do nothing in score, and
they decided to do something and not score. So yeah,

(10:22):
not really anything can go wrong will go wrong. That
suggests they ran into some bad mistakes or bad luck
or this just didn't They didn't play good football. They
didn't They didn't do the things that suggest the roster
shows that they are capable of. But I can't say
they didn't do the things they should have done, and
I can't say they played unlike themselves because while they

(10:45):
did get blown out, clearly they have not played good
football for such a long portion of this season kind
of like Game one through game sixteen so far, you
come out of a game saying, man, I love the
way the Texans plates is it today? Have you said
it even one time after any win and they've got
nine of them?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Have you felt good about a win against a good team?

Speaker 4 (11:06):
At least I feel sometimes I might feel good about
the win, but I'm not coming out of the game
saying that team is gonna be something. That team's gonna
be hard to be, that team can do things that
other teams are gonna be concerned with. That's where we
start things today. Mention, it sounded like the players kind
of knew how they had, you know, how their situation
has played out going into the final game of the season,

(11:27):
with what they put on display on Christmas Day, where
clearly the end of the first half and the start
of the second half what happened between that was entertaining.
What happened in those two football portions was absolutely not.
We've got a few more days to digest what the
Astros have done. And our former presumably former third baseman.

(11:49):
He's been on social media, he has an agent, he's
mouth moved, so words have come out, so we'll check
in on Scottie b and the Rockets in search of
a four consecutive victory tonight, first night of a back
to back, We of course have it for you here
on Sports Talk seven ninety from New Orleans Rockets and
Pelicans seven o'clock tips. So few things on that front,

(12:11):
including a little bit of the conversation from Email Udoka
right here on Sports Talk seven ninety earlier this afternoon.
We'll come back and we will hear what I thought
was the most important thing that was said after the
game by a Texans player in their locker room about
this team moving forward.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
The eight on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Back to Adam Clinton, had Adam Wexler the eighty on.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
So before we hear Danille Hunter. That was one of
two things that I really came away from yesterday more
concerned with than anything else. Like this is it's it's
obvious that you know what you're about to hear. You
can read into it or maybe it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't know. I don't think there's much to read
it it.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, I don't think it's up for interpretation as much
as it's like, ooh, but here's the other thing, and
I'm not before we even go there, and just prepare
yourself because you might dive an unfortunate I rolling accident.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Building this up, I like it.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
This is not I'm not saying he's David Carr. I'm
not what I have.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Wait a minute, So there's people getting back from their holidays,
maybe maybe referring to already returning their gifts out and
about maybe they got their but.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
If you're returning it the next day. I had this.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Radio app and they're listening to us, and they're really
enjoying it. And you're telling them that somebody isn't David
Carr in case you were thinking somebody was. That's what
you're telling him already what I'm saying one day. I
know there's three hundred and sixty four days till Christmas.
But still we I don't even think we differ on this.
We just approach the same subject. I guess different ways.

(14:02):
David Carr was never good, so we need to like
preface everything we're saying with that. But I do think
you can take any quarterback, however good or bad they
are coming into the NFL, and I do believe you can,
if not make them worse damage the goods if you
put them behind a bad offensive line.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
And I do think to.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
An extent, and I don't even think it's the main culprit,
but I do think there's a little bit of that
going on here in year two of CJ.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Stroud.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, I don't want to say there isn't, because there's
probably an element of how he believes his clock needs
to tick after the ball gets snapped where he thinks
guys are coming from, and maybe more quickly than he
definitely more quickly than he wants to get rid of
the ball because he loves hanging on with the football.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Nobody loves hanging out with the football like CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Oh, you have three guys coming after me. Watch this
case keenum esque spin move backwards. I could have lost
six yards. I'm gonna lose thirteen. Watch Card did that too.
He just ran out of was an all.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Time CURI with the Texas.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
If you don't recall when he was starting games for Houston,
he wasn't getting sacked eight, nine, ten times a game,
but he was losing a billion yards per sacks per sack.
He's in the quarterback room now, granted, a little bit
less this year than he was last year, though he
saw on the team CJ's doing those things. Those are avoidable.
Those aren't offensive line problems. That's just bad idea of football.

(15:24):
That's third and two. Watch this fourth and fifteen can't
go for it. Third and six not a good place
to be. Watch this fourth and thirteen can't go for
it too often. Number one in the NFL in yards
lost on sacks. But yes, I tend to want to
agree there's an element of how he's played in twenty
twenty four tied to poor offensive line play. There's an element,

(15:47):
and we could probably pie chart it after a week eighteen?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
You know, is it on the offensive line? This much?
Is it on Bobby Slowick? This much?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Is it on the players who are out there beyond
the offensive line?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
This much?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Is it the fact that his number two receiver was
either John Metchi, Robert Woods, or Xavier Hutchinson this week,
none of whom should be three or four wide receivers
in the NFL. Though some may differ with that assessment,
I do not all those things play some sort of
factor in the pie chart.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
But after putting all those pie pieces in.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
There, you know, like you probably played a little old
school trivial pursuit. And all those pie pieces, all six
of them, they're the same size, these pie pieces on
answering the question about what twenty four twenty twenty four
CJ stroud is, they're not all the same size. And
we haven't discussed his portion, what percentage of it. And
that's why yesterday's game stood out so much more to me,

(16:38):
drop back, have a guy miss him, drop back, have
a guy miss him? Overthrow, underthrow, too late, too low
over This game stood out more than any other. And
he's had some bad games that that was on the
table for him. We've got plenty on CJ to discuss.
Why didn't you take you briefly inside the Texans locker
room from their last regular season home game. They'll finish

(17:01):
the season whenever the NFL tells them to a probably Sunday.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
At noon, if I were to guess.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Because it involves two teams whose playoff implications are zero,
it affects draft position. The Titans will be drafting near
the top of the draft, but they'll have a few
other games probably that have playoff bearing, and in the
Texans game will not, so expect that announcement sometime this
weekend that they'll be playing at noon and again that's
on the road. Then they'll be back home. As the
four see, there are four teams they could play. One

(17:29):
of them is the team they just played, the Baltimore Ravens.
So daneil Hunter, after the game was talked about, asked
about their performance.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know what he didn't like about it?

Speaker 4 (17:38):
He talked about the energy and the possibility they could
see this team again. So I left in a couple
of the questions so you could see how it went.
On his way through discussing what went wrong with the
Texans yesterday.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
I just feel like a lot of guys were on
their keeps. There wasn't enough energy, a little bit of
game plan setters another thing that he could.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Do the game.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
How disappointing, Wizard, they were losing in a way.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
You will come, I.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Mean, I said, came out. We didn't have play much
chances here first. I mean, we tried to spark it,
but it was already too late. So I feel like
we shall a lot even more coming up these weeks.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
What do you think you guys can change in the
weeks to come.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
I mean, if we don't know who we're gonna play it.
But if we do play against them, I feel like
the best thing we could do is game plan.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
That he brought it up twice. Best thing we could do.
You heard it right there at the end is game
plan better. He talked about the opening drive. If you
don't recall, that was eight plays, seventy five yards. The
Ravens faced zero third downs on that drive because they
were getting so many yards on every snap, and they
just kind of ran right through the Texans. They knew

(18:44):
they could, they knew they would. They called a pass
play or two, and they know they didn't need to.
They knew they didn't need to. The rest of the game,
Lamar Jackson threw the ball fifteen times, Lamar Jackson ran
for eighty seven yards on four carries. Lamar Jackson completed
ten pass and they blew you away offense versus your defense.

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A couple of touchdowns in the first half, couple of
touchdowns in the second half, and the timing of those
last three touchdowns ended the first half to turn a
ten to two game into a seventeen to two game
and to open up the second half the way they did,
to bury them the way they did, but to the
Hunter point, they went onto the field, he specifically, because
I can't speak for the other ten guys because they

(19:26):
didn't specifically mention that he went on to the field
thinking this isn't going to work what we spent only
a couple of days working on. Because this was their
third game in eleven days. Texans went one to two.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
The Steelers lost all three, and the two good teams
that had three games in eleven days won all three
of their games. But he more convincingly with each game
in the chief case.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, and you definitely, I think you can say similarly
about the Ravens, the way they took apart the Steelers
and then took up part the Texans. Hunter went onto
the field yesterday head coach Demiko Rans, defensive coordinator to
Miko Rans, facing e Lyae Corps and knew their plan
wasn't going to work.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
That's damning.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, it is. And that's from a guy who just
got here. And by the way, Demiko just got here too.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
That is I was.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Seeing a lot of this yesterday and it kind of grew.
It wasn't so much that people were saying it, but
it was people observing people saying it, and then that
kind of grew the discussion people are really calling for
Dimico Ryan's head. I don't think that was going on,
But I do think Bobby Slowik is a dead man walking.
I mean, why would you bring him back other than

(20:32):
just to say, all right, everybody needs to regroup continuity.
It's not his fault. The lines as bad as it like,
you have to really give me some solid reasons as
to why you should keep him coming back, Whereas this
time last year it was like, oh, man, who's gonna
hire him.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, if you're going into the off season and you think, well,
give him a chance, relax, look over everything you did
and come up with a little bit better game plan
if these problems present itself.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
If you do those things, you're doing it wrong.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
You can't hire a coach that can only fix things
in the off season. You can't keep a coach that
can only fix things in the off season. Then you're
throwing seasons away. That's not coaching. That's the opposite of coaching.
They're playing games every week from September to January.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
You have to fix it.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Then you have to attempt to fix it. Then personnel
may be a little bit different story. Now, if you
don't fix it in the off season. You're kind of host.
Your job needs to be done really really well in
the off season, and then there's pieces you can piece
together during the season. Adding the number of players over
the last two years when the Texans have mattered to
Nick Cassario, they've added players in season that have made

(21:41):
a difference, that have helped this team that you'll filled
in gaps where they needed.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Devin white'es come aboard this year.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
We'll find out about Deontay Johnson, who will make his
first catch as a Texan next week when Davis Mills
throws him the ball.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
We'll find out if those things will help.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
But if he doesn't do his job in the off
season the opposite is true, then you're really really sunk.
You know, Bobby Slowan's play behind a close to average
offensive line in year one and an extremely below average
offensive line in year two, and at any point during
either of those seasons that it looked like he was
making changes to what he was doing to help his quarterback,
to help his offense to put points on the board.

(22:15):
And yes, I would agree the comment you made is
probably pretty accurate. You know, the Texans will evaluate everything.
Debiko will say we'll look at everything at the end
of the season, and there's really no time to you know,
this is as soon as their season the season is over,
everybody else is going to start with their Well, this
guy's not coming back, and we're looking for a new
head coach, and instead of having three head coaching jobs
available though, be four or five or six. And Bobby Sloan,

(22:38):
who probably impressed some owners and gms with how he
interviewed and what he knows about offense, wasn't hired anywhere
did get second interviews, which is why I say he
probably impressed enough he'll probably have a job in the
NFL next year. I don't mean to say he can't
do his job. I just don't think he's now the
right coach for this quarterback, this line, and this team.

(23:00):
Forward to revenue offensive coordinator next season.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm looking forward to Eric b Enemy's comeback starting right
here in Houston.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
That would be hilarious after everything that's happened. I don't
think there's any chance of that.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
No, But what does CJ have to say about everything yesterday?
Well that will be a part of our next segment,
which is of course the best of.

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Speaker 4 (24:18):
Two point thirty here on the eighteen we peruse the
social media landscape. Last night decided that something CJ. Stroud
had to say it was something the people that follow
the socials might want to hear. So I grabbed a
little bit of his comment and put it out there
for everybody, just as it was said following the loss
last night.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Did not mean. I figured a lot of people would
view it'd make the rounds a little bit, and people
would probably have comments on it.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I didn't really expect it to end up here on
the Best of X, but pretty much all of my
posts on the X platform that have two hundred and
forty thousand views or more I probably will deserve a
mention here on the Best of X because not only
did people clearly read it in the caption, but listen
to what he said and have some very entertaining and

(25:08):
complete I don't even want to say a one to
eighty from people's attitudes about it was like a three
sixty maybe a seven to twenty tony hawk could probably
spin around enough to get through all the comments that
were on every possible angle of this Hawk reference.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So what did CJ. Stroud say? Some of what he
said after the loss to the Ravens.

Speaker 9 (25:28):
Terrible on my behalf, you know, probably one of my
worst games of my whole career. You know, it just
came out flat, didn't have any energy, didn't leave the
offense the way I should have. So NA, I always
got to look at myself in the mirror and you know,
be honest with myself and it's not good enough today.
So you know, uh, it is what it is. Can't

(25:48):
hang my head down, but just got to keep keep going.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know, you didn't let the offenses.

Speaker 10 (25:53):
You should have to feel you're getting frustrated some of
this early distance.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
No, I just kept missing, you know, it just wasn't
and throws and the same time, you know, I got
to find a way to stand in there stronger and
make those throws. You know, just some miscommunication with me
and some of the receivers, but ultimately, you know, so
to me to you know, make the throw when the
eyes are open.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
So yeah, so yeah, I didn't want to edit anything
away from what I actually posted, so you can, guys
get a real sense of hearing it reacting to it.
By all means, feel free to add additional comments to it,
but we have more than enough to run with here,
quote tweets, replies replies to the replier. I mean, I

(26:34):
didn't want to like one hundred and fifty comments, so
I hope I get to as many of them as
I can. But just like I said, the carousel of
emotions that people had over yesterday's game and these comments,
he was basically saying I was bad.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
His first word is really awesome. This is what we
always want. I'm terrible.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, So a lot of people responded with accountability. That's
good moving on from this. A lot of people did
see it for that angle, and I'm not saying that's
the right angle. That might be the angle I see
it or you see it, or those particular comments on it,
but so much other stuff. And this is pretty tame.
From earlier today, Laurence said he looked terrible. And I'm
not blaming it all on this, but stop making teams

(27:15):
play games so close together. I don't think playing a
third game in eleven days had much to do with
CJ missing.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Do you well, it didn't affect Lamar Jackson or Ry
Henry Pat Mahomes or anybody.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, let's just quarterback to quarterback.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Do you think Russell Wilson got out played by the
Chiefs defense because he's playing his third game in eleven days.
But again, maybe it's not even that that she's referring to.
Maybe it's more about I bet his line got worse,
and they probably did so this particular line had to
shuffle things around. Kenny says Texans have a terrible offensive line.
Plus most of the wide receiver group is out for
the season injured. It's pretty factual. That's pretty on point.

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Trying to go in a different direction.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
If Stefan Diggs and Tank Dell were out there, it's
not gonna matter if your line's terrible.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
But yesterday, that to me, that wasn't the reason they lost.
I know he got hit a bunch again. I know
he got sacked five times, although one of the sacks
was like a sack last week, untouched run out of
bounds behind the line. Not only do you lose the yards,
people get to add that to the sack, Tass, It's
just dumb.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Just throw.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
I mean, there's somebody somewhere near you and or out
of bounds that you can throw the ball to. The
one he had this week was one yard and somewhat
inexcus are okay? The one last week they were in
the red zone, they were on the ten yard line.
He took a five yard loss when they were an
and goal situation. Puma says, the problem is the offensive line,
not Stroud. Well, you've discussed that many many times.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
That's the biggest problem.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Brandon says, you better get it going soon. The Bryce
Young is better chatter has begun stop.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean, come on, really.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Ravens saw that you were weakened and pounced on it.
Was what the whole CJ crying thing was truly about.
That nobody said anything about but me. So CJ wasn't
upset as much as seeing Tank Dell's kneecap where it
shouldn't be and knowing that his season was over.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
He didn't know at the time.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
All of the l's the cls were also ruptured or torn,
as we found out over the weekend. Aaron Wilson mentioning
that this is beyond significant from a knee injury and
surgery standpoint. Moving forward, Vox keeps it quite simple. He
quotes tweeted and just said growth again. We're getting all
angles of this. That's pretty simplistic and okay, just take

(29:31):
a step back some growth here. CD says that equation
equals Slowick must go talking about the offense that's been
unable to take care of things. Bon Gee says, my
self aware king putting his accountability on himself. You're probably
gonna like this from Brandon. So Tim Kelly wasn't a

(29:52):
bad OC at all.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay, that's about enough of that, Brent says, guy is
all trash period, all caps overrated.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, that's again, you're taking one extreme here. I mean
these people are unhinged.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Bernard says, he says the same bleep every week. How
about telling people the truth you hate and don't respect
the OC.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
I mean again, I don't know what you want me
to say, other than these people are unhinged.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
That's what it sounds like. There's quite a few.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
He's not going in there. I hate Bobby slowly like
he's not saying that.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Bobby Ze says pretty accurate. He's not been good lately,
and it's not just the offensive line fault anymore. He
has to be better, yeah, which is basically what he says.
He's just a little recap Let's see why. Oh I
get some of these confused with some of the other
things I tweeted that people respond to. But Meg says, man,
I get that he had a bad game, but the
NFL treats him like trash. His best friend literally suffered

(30:52):
a life altering injury last game. It was because one
of his passes. I can't imagine the sadness, guilt and
shame the man is feeling right now.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
May he feel better soon? Is in her.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Feelings, and she thinks I think CJ is also how
do you come out flat?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Which he acknowledged and bring the energy, didn't bring the juice.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
I tend to agree usually when we have a conversation
about that and a team has said it, and honestly,
Daniel Hunter said the same thing.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
So the players definitely believe it's real and the I
think when we watch it, we see it, but I
don't even understand it.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
What do you mean you came out flat.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Like Joe Mixon's verbally assaulting the backup quarterback for the
other team and punting footballs into the stands before the game.
It's these guys are so amped up for a football game.
If you've ever been to a game for the hour
that precedes kickoff, they're never flat funny during warmups.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
So I don't know how they could be flat during
the game. I just don't.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I think that's just a I just don't think it's
any way to describe your play. You came out with
what Hunter said was a bad game plan, and they
punched you in the mouth on eight consecutive plays and
it was seven to nothing. That made you flat, that
made you, uh, oh, we're gonna we're in for it today.
Our game plan stinks and they just showed us and

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then CJ and the offense played like CJ and the
offense did last week and the week before and the
other fourteen games this year.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
That wasn't anything new. She didn't come out flat. They
are flat now.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Joe Mixon going at it with the backup quarterback and
punting a ball into the stands before the game and
then running for less than thirty yards, that's not him
coming out flat. That's being made to be flat by
the defense. And you're I mean, it's yeah, none of
this makes sense. This is this is as you said,

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fans in their feelings. Maybe it was heightened because of
the schedule. Maybe it was heightened because it was Christmas
Day and all this other stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
The Texans just look like a team that is going
nowhere quickly at the end of a very long and
brutal year and have to really look at themselves in
the mirror.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
CJ included this offseason.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, probably too early for my prediction against the Broncos,
Chargers Raven Steelers in the Wildcard round. Maybe Saturday afternoon,
but there's six time slots this opening weekend of the NFL,
so I don't know when they'll play and it will
be one of.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Those four teams. Is too early for my prediction, so.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
I won't tell you exactly what the score will be
when the Texans advance.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'll hold that for next week.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Got a million dollar question about CJ. Stroud to wind
down the two o'clock hour next.

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Speaker 2 (34:37):
Well, I'm not gonna speak for this, just talking about
what happened.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, Well what happened is they are they are not
very good this year. I got a message from someone
that well, they're not.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I mean, they're for the same as last year.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
They're gonna have the same record as last year, just
like they're predicted if they're beating the Titans. Why because
the Titans are awful and they owe the and Davis
Mills is going to be so up for this game
because it's his it's his moment to shine.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
We'll see.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
I did suggest there's a good chance the Texans will
and I certainly believe they ought to consider resting a
host of starters and starting quarterback. Now that's going to
be that's gonna be the fun part about this. Texans
don't have any interest in the result. Doesn't really matter
unless they start and play everybody and they really want

(35:26):
to see them get something some good vibes going into
the playoffs, and the Titans flat out not the players,
as you saw with the Raiders recently and other teams
that have won games. The players don't want to lose
that the organization does.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yes, And that's what's interesting because look at how that
scenario went down a couple of years ago at Indianapolis,
and it had to go to overtime and it did,
and everything that you saw you.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Wanted that was starting quarterback, I know, but.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Everything you wanted to happen was the opposite of what
did happen, and it worked out for the best, which leads.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Me maybe, I mean, Bryce Young could be here to this.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Anybody trying to say that Bryce Young with nearly two
years of a resume of absolute ass.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Play, that's not accurate. Okay, how much of it is
not asked?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Ten fifteen percent half oh ten games is more like
what I was percent.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I mean, he's terrible.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
CJ has been bad for about eight weeks, ten weeks,
and Bryce's has been like a ham pretty much that
entire time.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, that's that's not I'm not even gonna hear that
that's just stupid. Okay, So speaking of which, had somebody
we both know that wants to remain anonymous, uh, send
this my way food for thought. This is a good question, though.
If this had been CJ's first season and we didn't
know about his first season, right last year didn't happen,

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would we still think we had found our franchise quarterback
here in Houston?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Now it's hard to ask this question. I don't think
it's hard to ask that question. I like the question.
What I mean is to answer.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
On second geez what Like it's hard to answer that
because you do know what happened last year. I think
that Cloud's judgment even in the best efforts. But let's
just say, for the sake of argument, this had been
his first year. I still think you would say yes.
But I also think that you'd be like, we got
get this guy line. This is terrible. He can't even play.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
You might be able to say both. I don't. I mean,
you're right, I can't speak for everybody, just for myself.
That's what we do here.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
If I took away last season, started the off season,
ran out this year, watched him play football, especially this
last game, there's no way in wherever you wanted me
to be, however far under the Earth's core you want
to place me. There's no way I would say, oh,
they've got their guy, which is clearly what I said
almost all year last year, after like five weeks I knew.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
But if I was only if, I can't use that.
I didn't see it.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
I only saw his years at Ohio State and this
year of NFL football. I can't you the year where
he played at an incredible level. I can only use
what I saw in twenty twenty four. I would agree
their offensive line play has been poor. I would agree
missing your number two and number three receiver is impactful
to your your performance. But coming out of his sixteenth

(38:14):
consecutive start yesterday and watching how poorly he aimed his
throws towards his players, they hit Green over and over
and over again, there's no way I could be watching
this and say they got their guy.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
But you're talking about way yesterday. You're not talking about
the whole season.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
When you say I had his season number stink. He's
like one of the worst rated quarterbacks in the league.
He gets sacked all the time for a billion yards
because he doesn't look like he knows how to get
away from the pressure. He's running into pressure again. I
know we're starting to slide into some offensive line conversation.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
But a three hundred yard game every now and then,
how about leading the team down the field when they.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Need it every now and again? How about a thirty
to fourteen win.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
How about scoring thirty besides against the freaking Patriots at all?

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Yeah, put that together earlier today. The Texans offensive touchdowns
per game and it's awful. I mean it's two, one
or zero the vast majority of this season. They don't
have any four touchdown games. They have a five that
was against the Patriots, and they got a couple three
majority of the season when he's been out there for

(39:20):
almost every single snap.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, they're not moving the.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Ball up and down the field, and it's it's some
of it is his inability to throw the ball where
it's supposed to be that's the problem. Maybe it's going
through progressions or all the other things that good quarterbacks do.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
We have seen last year and there is the offensive
line that got worse. And I I'm not just using
this talking point to make myself feel better about CJ.
Stroud here on the day after Christmas in year two,
but when me personally, it was like, this.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Line sucks all off season. It's not good. I can't
ignore that it got worse. It got really a lot worse.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
And I just like, when we come back, I want
to talk about the two words that were associated most
with c J. Stroud last season and why I can't
ignore that going into year three, which in my opinion
has basically already begun. I'm not quite the same as
wex in that regard, but yet That's how I'm feeling.
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Speaker 3 (40:51):
A Thursday, post Christmas post thirty one to two edition
of the program that was just.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Kind of safety on Derrick Henry.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
And lost didn't score any other point. I mean, say
thirty one to two without smiling, laughing or crying.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's just, I mean, it's just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Every time I hear thirty one to two, I think
that's I don't hardly even believe it.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
The word you said in the first hour, wex the
the worst game of CJ. Stroud's professional career, and we
mean CJ. Stroud. We're not going to just give him
a pass. Because the offensive line started terrible and got
worse as the year went on due to injuries in
a variety of other things. There is some blame. I
kept hesitating week after week after week giving c J.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Stroud the amount of blame.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
In fact, after the loss at Kansas City less than
a week ago, less than five days ago, you had,
you know, a tweet that I put out saying, all right,
how much do you ascribe blame to the offensive line
versus c J Stroud?

Speaker 2 (41:52):
And I had it at seventy thirty.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
I'm still probably in that realm, but I just I
look at it yesterday and it's like, all right, I
start thinking about something that we talked about last segment.
Somebody had messaged me saying, hey, would you say you
still had the franchise quarterback if you're the Texans and
CJ's first year didn't exist like this was his rookie season.
And you were like, no, hell no, that's what you

(42:15):
basically said, paraphrase away, I would not And I was like,
but I can't. I can't ignore it. It's just hard
to ask myself that question because I did see that
first season, which leads me to this, and I got
two words that were most and you're gonna know you
already know this. They were most associated with c J.
Stroud in twenty twenty three. We all heard them ad nauseum.

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In fact, the saturation hate, as I like to call it,
began late into the season where it's like, all right, enough,
you guys love the fact that c J. Stroud is poised,
that CJ. Stroud is accurate. Those were the two words
in that order that the Dana Orlowski's of the world
and everybody else from a national and especially local standpoint

(42:57):
would look and say about this quarterback. He's poised, man,
he's accurate. Look at how he places the ball right
where it needs to.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Be, on and on and on. And it was true.
And he was doing this in spite.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Of a bad offensive line. You mentioned at the tail
end of last segment. That line got ridiculously worse. Somehow,
I didn't want to say somehow it just got worse.
It's just bad, and it's gotten worse this season as
time has progressed. But that doesn't necessarily give CJ a
pass on the accuracy. The poise can't be there when

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he's always running for his life, but the accuracy when
he has had time to pass.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
You know, the throat of Tank Dell.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
In the back of the end zone during the Lions
game that he just missed no reason other than he
just missed it. That was a micro causem and in
a lot of ways, I think a sign of things
to come, because you could probably argue that that's that
first half halftime, if you will, of that Detroit game
that might very well have been where the Texans season

(43:57):
peaked here in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
I don't think that out of the question.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
And they weren't even destroying them like they could have
been right at that point in the game.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Five at the end of the analysis turnovers that night, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
They had three interceptions in the first half, the last
one was the last play of the first half, had
two more in the second half, unfortunately through two of
their own. And you know, there's a bunch of different
points in the season. I think a good point to
where this kind of felt like a flip or an
inflection point for the good or for the bad. Too
many of them have been flipping from I think we
got it, I think we got It's like the stupid
train book. I think I can, I think I can. Oh,

(44:30):
they don't look that bad. They just went right down
the field and just said, you're not stopping us. Boom touchdown.
They've got the lead, this is it, and they're not
quite to the top of the mountain. They haven't taken
a twenty one nothing lead, they haven't taken a two
score lead, and they never get to the top. They
just start going back down to where the other team
is waiting for them to finalize things in a three

(44:51):
point game at the end, to see who wins on
the final play of the game. Every single week, now
you have a second game where you've been embarrassed. I
think the Minnesota Vikings embarrass them, maybe humble them, because
at that point in the season they were probably feeling
pretty good about themselves. The NFL probably thought they had
some sort of well, this is a good start to
the season for these two teams. We might see them
again and technically you might still see them again, but

(45:11):
it doesn't look like the way that they have played,
and this certainly should have humbled them a great deal.
And listening to what guys had to say and we'll
get you more of that this hour. Yeah, I think
they realized that this is not you can't go out there.
You can go out there and play the way they did.
If you are looking at the twenty twenty five draft,
if you're the Titans or the Jaguars or the Raiders

(45:32):
or any of these teams with two, three, four wins
on the season and there, it's long since been over
and you have nothing to play for from a standings
perspective other than the reverse. You're trying to get to
the bottom of the standings. No team with nine wins
that hasn't clinched their playoff seed that is measuring stick
gaming themselves down the stretch. And we knew this stretch
of scheduling difficulty was in front of them, but we

(45:54):
also knew that the schedule was getting harder. Two of
the three teams that are almost guarantee along with Buffalo,
to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl, two of
those three teams you just played in the span of
a week, and you obviously hadn't played teams of that
caliber much, if at all, this season. I mean Buffalo,
when you played them, they weren't the team they are now.

(46:15):
One of the big reasons why you beat them. Minnesota
is probably roughly the same. They kind of have been
pretty consistent over the seasons and blowouts early and blowouts
here lately. They still have a chance to be the
number one seed in the NFC. But you just played
two teams in the last two games that think very
convincingly think we're winning the Super Bowl. We're going to

(46:36):
the playoffs. Nobody can stop us. Everything about our team
is also trending in the right direction. Best football Baltimore's
played all year happens to coincide with the end of
the season for a team that knows what it's supposed
to play like at the end of the season. It's
clearly the best football Kansas City has played to this
point this season. Even though they got all those wins,
they're definitely playing better football now. Mahomes never turns the

(46:58):
ball over anymore. He turned it over every week. When
they went seven to zero seven straight games of the interception,
they won them all. Now he never throws the ball
the other team. He's got players back, and that's where
you start to lean on. Well, what's happening here, Well,
they're losing players constantly, big time players, and they are
playing worse. Their defense had their worst game of the season.

(47:18):
Their offense didn't get in the end zone or score
any points. So their offense had their worst game of
the season. It was on the same day in week seventeen. Granted,
playing three games in eleven days didn't help, but it
didn't hurt the other teams you just talked about. But
you're playing your worst football like this, and not only
your worst football. This is awful football. As they said,

(47:39):
many of them are aggressive football.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Well's just I guess regressing from what they were a
slightly above average team that went to the playoffs as
a division winner, won their home game, lost on the road.

Speaker 4 (47:49):
They're the exact same situation this year. I do think
there's that you could make a case that they're better
than the three teams that will be behind them in
the standings, specifically if it's Pittsburgh, Denver and the Chargers.
But I probably felt better about it last year. Well,
I knew they were better than the Browns, and they
happened to get them, and I thought they were better
than the two other wild card teams. They ended up
playing clearly a very good Baltimore team, and well, like usual,

(48:13):
Baltimore handed it to them.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, Baltimore owns your franchise until further noticed, Hannah.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
But look, if you're like Joe, did she say otherwise?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Uh No, I'm just talking to the owner of the
team who runs everything and makes all the key decisions,
good or bad.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
She was smiling at halftime.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
That was too What a spectacle Joe is, you know,
a regular contributor mainly via social media during the show,
and he's just like, you know, he's he's thinking, I'm
too hard on them, basically. And I said, look, name
me three or name me a playoff team that they
would be favored against her you think they would win, basically,

(48:52):
And He's like, Broncos, Charger, Steelers, And I'm just like
going down the line like all three of those well
Broncos Steelers for sure, I don't want any part of
CJ and that line going up against those two defenses,
particularly the Steelers. And I was telling you this in
the break. They can be at home. They can even
be favored all you want. The Steelers are going to

(49:13):
eat their lunch. The only thing you could say about
the Steelers is that, okay, playing the role of Joe
Flacco this year as Cleveland comes to town might be
Russell Wilson because you don't necessarily know what you're gonna
get week in and week out. But Cleveland wasn't as
ferocious defensively, and I know who they have on their
defense that was nothing last year. But the Texans offense

(49:37):
isn't even remotely playing like that. All of their weapons
that aren't named Nico Collins and Joe Mixon when he
has a good week. By the way, that trend continued.
If Joe Mixon has a bad game, the Texans lose.
It's like lock every single time. But it's just everything's
different coming into this year. The feeling is different. The
Texans down the stretch last year gave you a reason

(49:59):
to think they're optimism. Even after they beat Cleveland and
had to go to Baltimore and they had played a half,
you felt better then I'm gonna feel even going into
Tennessee this week, which again we've already talked about. They've
clinched the four seed. I'm guessing a bunch of starters
rest I'm guessing CJ's one of them. But anyways, once

(50:19):
you get to the postseason, I'm not looking for anything
at all coming into this playoff here.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
There's no reason to after yesterday, but there's reason to
based on what we've seen at other points this year,
and again, the competition certainly plays a lot into it.
You know, the Steelers bring that pass rush to every game.
They haven't shut down every quarterback. They haven't dominated all
the offensive lines that are comparably weak. Most aren't. Clearly,
if you're at the bottom the league, there can't be
too many comparably weak offensive lines. But you go into

(50:47):
games with deficiencies, you go into games with obvious weak links,
and it's on the players that you do put out there,
and specifically the coaches that this is their job to
figure it out. And that's what they haven't done a
very good job of this year. Or you already heard earlier,
and we'll play it again this afternoon. Daniel Hunter questioned
the Texans game plan defensively and how couldn't you with

(51:08):
them turning in the performance, especially right out of the gate,
against Lamar Jackson in that offense, and quite clearly over
the course of the season on the other side of
the ball, offensively with or whatever your offensive line is good,
beat or otherwise, you got to figure out you've got
to call plays that you think might work in spite
of the fact or because of the fact you can't block.
I mean, that's why I didn't spend a whole lot

(51:29):
of time with Oh my god, please Bobby, the screens
they're killing me. Well, snap step throw, He's never gonna
get sacked on a one. He's never not gonna be
able to get rid of the football. If any of
the players, now maybe they're asking the wrong players. If
any of the players that are supposed to be blocking

(51:50):
on the play most of the time it's Mechi or
Hutchinson or Robert Woods and you're throwing Deniko, well, the
play might actually work. Or if CJ gets rid of
the ball even more quickly like he's supposed to, he's
calling he actually is calling those plays for a reason.
Your oh line stinks, and those plays aren't usually going
to kill you. But for the Texans, they have enough

(52:11):
that people are saying, I can't have it with these
screens anymore. Bobby's got to go because of the screenplay
calls didn't have too many this week, didn't have too
much of anything this week, just getting started here in
the second hour of the show.

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Speaker 5 (53:33):
On Sports Talk seven ninety eight. This is a quick reminder.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
I wants to come here on the Thursday edition of
the eight team. I know it feels like Thursday for everybody.
Doesn't feel like you just got back from the weekend.
Doesn't feel like a Monday.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Adam know what day it feels like.

Speaker 10 (53:47):
It is?

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Thursday, December twenty sixth, twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Bottom of the hour.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
We're gonna hear from Ema Udoka as the Rockets set
sail on what they hope is a fourth consecutive win,
technically the last game of a three game road trip
that brought them back to Houston for Christmas. They left
last night for their last leg of this road trip
in New Orleans, will be back tomorrow night for a
game against Minnesota, and they won't leave town until well
into the new year. The next five games after tonight

(54:13):
at Toyota Center, so Amy Udoka spending a few minutes
saw on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross, as he
does each and every week, So we'll get you a
little bit of that at the bottom of the hour.
I'll just kind of run through our rundown here real
quickly before we hear here Will Anderson Junior talk about
how awesome his team was, except it's the exact opposite.
Four o'clock says Scott Boris is such a piece of crap.
But we already knew that, So we'll get to that

(54:35):
at four four point thirty. We've got our signature segment,
what's up with that? That's when we will be replaying
the Texans game in short eight minute segment, we'll ask
what's up with that?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
We should be able to get through there.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Pretty nice and easily, and a bunch of other things
regarding some in and out with players this week.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
This is week seventeen.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Still there's a Thursday night game, as has been the
case most of the season, three Saturday games. Then everybody
else will take care of things. Saturday or Sunday and Monday,
a lot of players playing for teams that have nothing
to play for already being sidelined, ceed Lamb among them.
As the Cowboys recognize where they are and the amount

(55:16):
of investment they've made in Cede Lamb, and they'll move
forward without him. This week and the following week, a
couple of playoff scenarios will get to regarding the Texans.
They are the four seed and we know they will
be playing one of four teams don't even know the
full playoff field. Five of the AFC teams have clinched
playoff berths. Three have won divisions, but the Stealers and

(55:36):
Ravens haven't yet determined who's going to win that division.
Whoever does is three, unless it's Pittsburgh. They went out
and Buffalo loses out, then pittsburghould rise to two, or
excuse me, Baltimore would rise to two.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Pittsburgh can't be that high.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Pittsburgh could be as low as seven, and obviously if
they are, that means either Denver or San Diego's team
that's now in Los Angeles moves to the slot where
the Texans will be hosting. But if the Texans play
like they did this past weekend. It won't matter much
other than I can't believe we have to sit through
this home game again where they get throttled. Will Anderson Junior,

(56:13):
who nearly brought the juice that the Texans were lacking
after they were behind in a ten to nothing game,
had a couple of TFLs, some extremely impressive TFLs. They
would get the ball back, they would foresay safety on
the following possession, and really nothing ever got much better
after Damian Pierce's free kick return.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Will Anderson after the game, how'd you think things went so?

Speaker 7 (56:36):
Yeah, embarrassers. That's not a playoff football, and I think
everybody's locker. Roland lows that from the top to the bottom, like,
we have to do a better job, and the coaches
can do their part, but I feel like as players,
we have to do all part. Like the leaders and captains,
we have to step up and we have to command
guys and we have to hold guys accountable and make
sure that everybody's going their jobs.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
So, in other words, is it okay to read into
that when he finishes with make sure everybody's doing their jobs?
And he might be looking in the mirror to same
as Hunter before Disney, essentially indicating for the defense, I
don't think we did our jobs. We didn't handle our assignments.
Not saying we got physically worked. We were suggesting.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
If I'm taking it too far, you tell me that
they weren't doing the things they should have done based
on what Baltimore does well.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
A good football team, and a lot of times bad
football teams, they can have, you know, sides of the
ball that perform better consistently, and that has clearly been
the Texans this year. But you know, a good football
team is typically going to have a player say that
kind of thing, regardless of how anybody takes it. We've

(57:41):
got to respond. We got to be responsible for what
we are here to do our job. Stop the other team,
you know, impact, make their have negative plays offensively, get
the ball back, force turnovers, all that kind of stuff.
He can't do anything about the offense. No defense can.
That's just unless you're a two way player. You know
you can't. You cannot realistically and actually you know, impose

(58:05):
your will on that side of the football.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
So all you can do is that.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
But when when a game like this happens, and pretty
much anybody who had a microphone put in front of
their face. Is saying we didn't do our jobs. That's
where he's coming from in this particular sense, I think.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Yeah again, pretty much after that, defensively, there weren't a
whole lot of plays made.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Baltimore. I think already knew where things were headed.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
They recovered after the safety stopping the Texans on fourth
and goal on the pass eight yards from the end
zone to Joe Mixon which he nearly was able to
get in having to get through a couple of different
ravens to try to do so, knocked out of balance
at the one yard line. This is another instance, if
you recollect the plays that preceded it, the Texans' coaching
staff isn't doing a good enough job at certain things.

(58:51):
We don't mention it a lot, but it certainly has
I think played a factor in some of the things
they have not done well offensively. I think the NFL's
probably got to do a better job of But this
is just the way they handle things. When the offense
makes late substitutions, they don't care. I don't care what's
on the clock when you do it. They're just acting
appropriately in their minds. Okay, well, we still have to
give the defense their opportunity to make their substitutions. I

(59:13):
don't care if the play clock is at three or
at two and the referee is standing in front of CJ,
so Jarrett Patterson can't snap him the ball that happened
to them on second and goal from the three. With
they're in the second quarter, there's six and a half
minutes left until halftime. I don't care if you have
only one of your timeouts, you had all three of them.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Call timeout. It's not that hard.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
You want to run a second in goal play from
the three haphazardly, disastrously. We're not ready in a ten
to two game. You've looked like garbage up until that point.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
It's just dumb.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
This is not good coaching. It's Dimiko's fault, it's Bobby
Slowag's fault. To somebody's fault. You just can't do that.
There's no reason to do that. Everything's screaming at you.
Don't snap this football. Heck, tach a five yard penalty. Yeah,
but well this was mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
That's bad. You have a time out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Just call the time out. But running the play which
turned out to be well, that was a negative play.
They lost the yard mix and then they thrown in
completion and then the play I just described. They're they're
getting in their own way. Again, it's not because of
fall starts. It's not because of legal formations. That's not
what happened. There is not on the players. That's the
play call likely And I don't know this for a
fact because they did not speak today and I did

(01:00:26):
not have a chance to ask Demko this after the
game from Austin. That play came in too late, or
CJ's got to do a quicker job of communicating it,
or the players have to break the huddle more quickly, something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Before the actual football is played. They're not operating well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Well, it's interesting how many levels of we don't look
prepared at certain times this season. Now yesterday, you can
say it's a schedule or whatever.

Speaker 11 (01:00:52):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
I don't think any team was as prepared as they
would have been that was playing in this scenario. But again,
like we mentioned, it didn't happen to affect the teams.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
But yeah, before the four games were started, Hey, Adam,
who do you think the two best teams? These four
that are playing three games in eleven days? Alread you
have any idea, and you would have said, uh, probably
Baltimore and Kansas City, and they played like it like
this didn't affect them as much because they're better and
no offense to Mike Tomlin, they're better coached, the John
Harbaugh coach team, the Andy Reid coached team. I think

(01:01:22):
it's fair to say they're better coach than Mike Tomlin's
team and Demiko Ryan's team, even though I think that's
sounds offensive to Mike, who's probably one of the fourth, fifth, sixth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Beth head coach, but both of the other two are
ahead of him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
You pick the one guy who's probably longer tenured, though
either of them guys.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
He's in the top five. Maybe I just said six,
he's four or five six. I really he's awesome, But
the other two guys have won more, they operate better.
Their front offices are also better. Yeah, Pittsburgh's made a
front office change since Mike Tomlin's been the head coach
and they're not Again, they're not bad, but it's okay
to say they're worse because they in my opinion, they are.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
How much do you see because we're about to look
at an off season of if not complete overhaul in
some areas, not all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
There'll be some offices cleaned out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Yeah, but how much of that is going to be
Demiko finally has a direction or or a reason to
point out and say, hey, look this over here, this
over here, and this over here. I want my people
now because I inherited some of this, I brought some
of my own and obviously I got a new quarterback
and I got a stud defensive But like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Doesn't it feel like he didn't what did he inherit?
It feels like, oh, that's different I thought. I don't know,
but it's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Yeah, that's the guy who put this offensive line on
the field, and it's it feels like that's the I'm
just gonna say it, that's the cancer. And the symptoms
that have spread out from this cancer all point back
to that big time situation that needs to be addressed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Like now, yeah, it's fair to see it that way,
and the only the only other side of it is
the same guy who continues to have really bad personnel
and financial decisions related to the offensive line. Nick Cassio
is also the same person that you've worked with to
re I mean, they they had a good defense in
twenty twenty three. Yeah, it's not the defense they wanted,

(01:03:15):
so they revamped it in one off season. Look at
how many different guys there are and we.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Have there's also picks that were already there that and
picks this year that have played amazingly, Kylen Bullock there
last year, Spey.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Those are all Nick Cassario guys. That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
But how can that guy maybe he's a defensive specialist
because the offensive line, Like, you can't to me. Some
of those guys are his picks, you know, Blake Fisher,
but I'm not going to necessarily get it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
This is his rookie year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
But other guys like Kenyon Green and guys that he signed, Like,
how can you be so good over here?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
On this side of the football.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Every single player, if I'm not mistaken, that's taken a
snap for the Texans on offensive line this year was
a Nick Cassario player, every one of them. Laramie's been
extended since he's been here, Titus has been extended since
he's been here. The other guys were drafted, traded for,
or picked up since he's been here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
How resilient they are. I don't want to ever hear
that again from that guy especially, So, Yeah, there's there's
a lot of work to do, and I'm just wondering
when Dimiko gets his guys potentially in there to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
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Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Just passed the visit from Saint Nick and hopefully everybody
enjoyed that. Got some hot coco and some cookie crumbles
that he didn't finish off, and everything else that December
twenty fifth brings to those that celebrate happy holidays out there.
To everybody, it was both a football and a basketball day,
don't you forget it? Or two NFL games, there were

(01:05:04):
five NBA games. I did enjoy the day. As people
were saying, wait, there's another game, I'm like, well, there's
another game after this game also, and then there's another
game after that one. Also ten NBA teams on the
schedule yesterday. Rockets obviously were not one of them. They
are in New Orleans taking on the Pelicans tonight. Beat
them a little under a week ago back on the

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nineteenth handily over at Toyota Center. Similar injury problems for
the Pelicans tonight and probably for the rest of the season,
because if they ended up getting a healthy group together
at any point, those players probably get moved anyway. So
whatever they see from the Pels when they see them
for the third and fourth time in March probably look
a lot different than the team they see tonight. They've
handled each of their last three opponents all while kind

(01:05:49):
of I mean, this is not a horrible injury situation
by any means for the Rockets, but they've almost used
the starting lineup every single game this season.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
They win.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
The other night was only the third time they've had
to chain. They've used the same person off the bench.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Guess what.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Amen Thompson is like a chameleon in the NBA. You
need him free, You could play him anywhere. He stepped
in for Fred twice. Now he stepped in for Dylan,
and likely we'll do the same tonight. Dylan Brooks injury
situation Actually here a little bit. We'll explain a little
bit about that if you don't, but also tarry Easton's
injury situation. The conversation earlier today with Emai Udoka and

(01:06:25):
the Matt Thomas show a little bit of that, and
that's where the conversation begins, the status and the issue
health wise with Tarry Easton.

Speaker 13 (01:06:34):
He's feeling better, obviously, we'll see you game time decision
how he feels after this workout and test it out
before the game and go from there.

Speaker 14 (01:06:44):
You mentioned this a few days ago about maybe the
number of days off in between the tournaments in Vegas
and the extra long time off in between games may
have hurt him a little bit. Is this being back
in a more of a normal routine helping him right now?

Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:07:00):
I think so, But I mean, honestly, you know, if
you if it flares up, and you know, who knows
what the cause of that is. And like I said,
being stagnant a little bit or an off of the
schedule may have added to the stiffness. But you know,
benefit of other guys with the rest and all that,
and so for us, we just have to test through
it and hopefully, you know, he doesn't feel any more

(01:07:21):
pain and it settles down and we can get him
back to a normal routine. But yeah, it's a weird
thing where you know, different injuries affect people different ways
and for him. Hopefully it's just back to normal routine treatment,
you know, playing his regular minutes and it calms down,
settles down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
He's good to go the rest of the way.

Speaker 14 (01:07:37):
I know Dylan is out for tonight as well. Where
are we on how he's feeling these days.

Speaker 13 (01:07:44):
It's a living day to day, you know, he needs
a little bit of time and the scheduling. You've had
the two days off in between, but you've had back
to backs with Toronto and Charlotte. Obviously played great back
home in Toronto and then tonight and Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Doesn't give you a lot of time to rest in between.

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
But literally day to day.

Speaker 13 (01:08:01):
He's got some shouts out today, has some swariness there,
but that calms down as well and he's back on
the court in no time.

Speaker 14 (01:08:08):
And we were having dinner last night with a family
and my father in law he was telling me, he says, man,
I love him in Thompson and what he does in
terms of playing different positions. He's very tenacious defensively, he's
a good ball handler. His shooting has gotten a lot better.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Is he is he the one?

Speaker 14 (01:08:24):
I mean, among many things that you're very boastful about
and prideful about his development even from just last year,
I feel like has been significantly improved. Tell me about
what he's done in terms of becoming a guy that
you've been able to rely on for more for shooting
beyond other things he already did before, he's all of
a sudden become a much better scorer for you.

Speaker 13 (01:08:45):
Yeah, I think really the main thing with him was
he got hampered by the health earlier in the year
with the ankles that you know, hurt in Summer League
and then hurt the first twenty plus games of the season,
so that when he came back you saw a rapid
increase in his confidence is game overall and how he
impacts the game for us and the versatility and so
now being healthy this season so far, he's had a

(01:09:07):
big carryover from last year, kind of hit the ground
running as far as what he did toward the end
of the season when when he was starting a bunch
when Operon went out, And so it's good to see
him take that second year jump. He's a meticulous worker
on this specifically with this jump shot, tireless worker in general,
and so it's a luxury for sure to have a
guy like that that you can play every position offensively

(01:09:30):
and defensively, and if somebody happens to be out dyling
right now, you just plug him in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
And he can fill that hole.

Speaker 13 (01:09:35):
And so for us, his growth has been great. One
of the you know, one of our favorite players on
the team just the way he goes about his business
every night and diversity versatility brings to our team. So
definitely invaluable guy that's worked extremely hard and he's reaping
those rewards right now.

Speaker 14 (01:09:53):
And maybe you don't want to do this, but I
think people as sports fans like to make comparisons to players.
If you look ahead in his career, three, four, five
years down the road, what do you think he could
ultimately be? Is there is there a cop right now
in the NBA that makes sense for who he is
or what he can be.

Speaker 13 (01:10:12):
And that's a hard one, honestly, because he's so unique
and what he does. There's not a lot of people
that can you know, play one through five and guard
one through five and play both sides of the ball
at every position, and so you know, has a point
guard mentality and pushes the pace and one man fast break,
but also can guard threes, fours, fives, and everything in between,
and so it's a tough one and we love the

(01:10:34):
uniqueness about him and what he brings the table, and
so hard to say, honestly, you know, I coached Ben
Simmons in Philadelphia when he was rolling an All NBA
defensive player, and he has a lot of those traits
as far as being uble to guard every position, pushed
the pace and one man fast breaking those things. But
it's even tougher because Ben was a bigger guy and
couldn't guards as well with the ones and twos as much.

(01:10:57):
And obviously I'm in a lockdown as far as that was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Listening to that interview earlier today with e May and
Matt both from New Orleans as they get set for
the Pelicans tonight, and that last part he said there
I did. I have to be honest, I did do
a kind of a double take, kind of a step
back of whoa, whoa, whoa Ben Simmons. And I know
he's really capable defensively and can do all sorts of things.

(01:11:22):
And at least he said, you know, he's an All
NBA defensive player, and this is true, Ben Simmons was
that I don't think it's it was meant in any
negative way, not at all. I think it was meant
in the most positive way possible. Just again, kind of jarring,
I guess from me here that game thrown out. Yeah,
he's been on the court for Brooklyn for much of
this season, which is something new for Ben since the

(01:11:43):
early portion of his career.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Oh, he plays in Brooklyn now. He plays in Brooklyn nowt.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
But he I do find it amazing that his field
goal percentage is what it is when it looks like
he hates shooting the basketball from one foot four feet,
eight feet, ten feet twelve feet doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Matter you meant he he looks like he hates basketball,
that's what you meant to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
I don't know if he hates basketball. He's setting all.
He's got some of his best numbers this year. He's
a seventy one percent free throw shooter. He almost shoots
one per game. I mean, look, so we can move
away from that and recognize I said it going into
the interview, and he said it during the interview. Most
teams don't have a guy that. I mean literally, if

(01:12:23):
alprin Shengoon he hasn't yet misses a game, he could start, Jock,
you could start Steven Adams if he's healthy war depending
on the opponent, couldn't you just go small, put Jabari
at the five and men Thompson right back in your
starting lineup?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
He is the what I guess, his Swiss army knife.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
I'm thinking of all the cliched sports analogies, but utility man,
if you were a baseball he would play all the
infield positions.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
That universal key that the janitor usually has, it turns everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Yeah, I can get it. You want me to get
in here, I can get in here. I have to key.
I got a key for that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
But you know it's you think about Reed Shepherd and
I realize he's still in his rookie seat. But of
the guys taken near the top of the draft that
the Rockets have taken over the past several seasons where
they had to pick up there, he's just incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
It's not even close.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
And you know, you're starting to get potentially an argument
that he could be the guy in that draft.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
We'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
We are exactly one segment away from the latest reason
why Scott Boris is the devil.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
He's just doing his job, let's put it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
But very interesting comments that he had about the Astros
and the whole Alex Bregmant situation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
We will get to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
We've talked a inordinate amount of Texans football since they
played yesterday, sort of thirty one to.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
Day.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
It was you know, even if they had one yesterday,
I like, how would they have done it? Like?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
How would just every It seems to me everything about
this year in particular that is bad with regards to
the Texans, Baltimore, of all teams, would exploit the most.
I don't even fear the Chiefs as much as I
fear the Ravens.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
Clear your mind, there's thirty one other NFL teams the
Texans could play on any given week. They even have
a good defense. Who is the most difficult offense to stop? Yeah, well,
the answers Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Who got more difficult to stop with the addition of
Derrick Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
That's the crazy part the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Answer in the And I say that specific to the
Texans because it definitely is for them. I'm not trying
to dismiss the Detroit Lions for the rest of the year.
They've been the most difficult offense to stop. Maybe you
could argue they were enough against the Texans to score
twenty six points and beat them, so You intercepted them
five times, you turned them over five times, and you

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still couldn't even really stop them. They scored twenty six
points and they blew you out in the second half
to win with a last second field goal. So it's
definitely one of those two teams. And in each case,
the Texans didn't do anything to stop Baltimore. How would
they have beaten them? What starts where you? I mean,
maybe make them convert a third down. They didn't convert
a third down till I think it was until the

(01:16:21):
second half. They were over their first two because they
barely faced any third down. You never put them behind
the change, You never put them in bad down in
distant situations, certainly not until the game was no longer
in doubt. As I pointed out earlier, it was your
third game against these three teams in the AFC that
you trail, presumably if Baltimore wins their division and the
Texans haven't forced to take away against any of them.

(01:16:41):
None against Buffalo, none against Baltimore, none against Kansas City.
Beating one of those teams straight up difficult. Beating one
of those teams straight up with your offense, I can't
say impossible. Because they did beat the Bills, but I
think it's fair to say Bills aren't the same team
that they were then. Bills also had very few people
to throw the ball to that day due to injury,

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and they have many more now. And that also goes
back into a conversation. I think everybody at this point
that's canvassing the AFC landscape has to see and recognize
the teams you expect to be competing for the Super Bowl.
Those three teams, they're getting better. They're playing the type
of football at this time in the season that suggests
it's real. Buffalo really can win the AFC, Baltimore really

(01:17:22):
can win the AFC. Clearly, Kansas City the Texans aren't
playing that brand of football any of the three other teams.
Certainly the wild card teams would have to do something
they really haven't done all year. Denver's playing well, but
they just kind of gave a game away to the Chargers.
The Steelers are Texans like and that they have not
looked good for three consecutive weeks. They had a little

(01:17:43):
bit bigger cushion from a win loss standpoint. They've already
clinched their playoff spot, but they could find themselves in
the last spot all of a sudden, They've been running
at number three, the favorite to win the division from
where they stood, and they did beat the Ravens during
this late second half of the season stretch. Remember they
had no AFCO games until the second part of their season. Well,
if they lose to Cincinnati, who may or may not

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have something to play for when they see them in
Week eighteen, well then they're ten and seven and the
doors wide open for either the Chargers or the Broncos
or both to pass them in the standings. They have
to be better than them to pass them in the standings,
and that kind of goes into the Texans tiebreaking scenarios.
Presumably Baltimore wins their division, they're three. If the Steelers

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win their final game, they have all the tiebreakers, they
would be the team that the Texans play. If they don't,
the doors open for one of those two other teams.
Chargers have the tiebreaker over the Broncos if they end
up with the same record, both at eleven and six,
both better than Pittsburgh, and then that's obviously who you'd play,
or the Broncos can be the only eleven and six
wild card team and the Texans would.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Host them more questionable social media decision following that game yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Ready, here are your choices.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Yes, Laramie Tunsel and his cleats is signed, or yes,
that's where I should have put that in there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
They're signed. Yeah, not just I wore these today, but
they're special now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Or the pregame post from the non blocking I don't
catch obvious passes to me tied end Dalton Schultz, who
had a diehard theme post on his social media and
it was anything but entertaining watching him yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Yeah, I don't. Dalton's impact on the game was the usual.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
There are some plays that he couldn't make because the
ball was an eightywhere close to him. There's some blocks
that could have been made, but usually art by him.
Did have one nice play. Laramy is a non This
is a pregame. You're you're trying to get amped up
for the game. You're trying to show people how fun
Christmas can be by depicting a Christmas movie.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Yeah, no matter where post Thomas and Ross VII, I'll
tell you it absolutely is.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
The other one comes after an embarrassing thirty one to
two loss in front of everybody in many countries. As
Netflix told us, you lost thirty one to two, and
you had her halftime performance. You got the entertainer at
halftime at some point to sign your cleats, which you
showed everybody on social media.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
I'm gonna go with that one.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
Laramie individually, he probably played like he's been playing the
last several weeks, which is to his pay grade and
to his status, he's been playing very very well. He's
also part of an offensive line that's awful.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I just I want nothing to do with this line
going forward. I don't even want to five out, Yes,
five out?

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Why not? What is Laraimi?

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
It's a better financial situation they could consider four three.
Maybe it's probably gonna be two because you'd also be
hit by whatever it is you're hit by whenever. These
two still tracks on your cap space, which isn't nearly
as large, but as it was last off season.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
And I know this is very much.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
And Laramie's a good left tackle. I know everyone hates
him at all for whatever reason. This line stinks. Okay,
well let's get rid of the really really good left tackle.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
There is such a thing, though, I mean, we can't
talk ad nauseum about cold your culture, culture change all
off season from last year and how that I mean
it was. It was absolutely a change. Of course, the
bar was very low at that point. I think it
doesn't get any lower. I mean, it was like just
sitting there on the ground and people were tripping over it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
But like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
I have spoken multiple times to someone very close to
the organization that we both know, and it drives this
person crazy, just the way Laramie Tunsel goes about his
business as a professional football player. And you can be
really good and still be bad for the team. Even

(01:21:38):
if you're good at your position and you perform well
most of the time when you're not getting false starts,
you can absolutely do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
That's a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
I'm not saying that Laramie Tunsel is bad in the
locker room and that's but I am saying that, like
the biggest weakness on this team, he's the best part
of and if you have those types of criticisms about
his personality coupled with that, I don't know. It's just
sometimes it's okay for a change of scene. I don't
think the Miami Dolphins are thinking about, oh man, all

(01:22:09):
the good times we have with Laramie Tunzel they could use.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
I mean they really funny thing is they have terrible
I want I'm back. Well, Laramie makes a lot of
money and it would be very difficult to move on
from that contract and to find some suitable replacement. They
need a replacement next to him, and next to him,
and next to him, and potentially next to him if
you move Titus back inside where he's currently playing. So
I don't think that's probably in the cards for this year,

(01:22:36):
but probably not getting an additional extension. I'll do what
I usually do with Laramie. Five consecutive weeks of penalty
free football for Laramie Tonzel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
How many games are the Texans for?

Speaker 15 (01:22:47):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
How many games have they played for? So I already
made it sound better than it should be. How many
games have they won?

Speaker 13 (01:22:53):
They won?

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Two?

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
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lot of consternation and just woe is me radio, that's

(01:23:38):
what we're doing today now, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
It hasn't been that bad. But to day was okay.
Yesterday Texans no, but mine was fine.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Oh yeah, that's I think everybody in Houston could probably
say that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
Some people who spent money to go to the game
and enjoy everything that didn't happen in between the first
half and second half might disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Did they really call it the Beyonce Bowl?

Speaker 10 (01:23:56):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Netflix obviously had control of everything that was happening, and
they did so for one reason. They're going to basically
release it as it's standalone special and which can be
access right there. I've already seen people, Oh here's the
whole show. If you missed it, it was great and all.
But I do think, and I wasn't there, unfortunately, I

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do think the the spectacle of they basically people who
went to yesterday's Texans game basically got a half to
a Super Bowl halftime performance.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
That's it, right, unless you're a Ravens fan. If you
only went because oh well, I just want to see Beyonce.
I want to see Beyonce. Are tons of people who
did that, I guarantee it. Those people, we can slide
off to the side. Their day was fine. The people
who went because they're die hards, they're not die hard
they love the team, they hate the team, but they
were there expecting something to cheer for. They probably would

(01:24:48):
say it wasn't a great day.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
Yeah, it's just brutal watching on TV seeing it all unfold,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Well, people coming back into the room saying what happened? Now,
you know, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
My brother in law actually turned to me after the
safety and said, it'd be great if that was the
best play of the game, and I go, it will be,
And then it was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
They scored on one play a safety Kamari Lasterner got
into the end zone and would not let Derrick Henry
get out of the end zone. After the Texans couldn't
score on first, second, third, and fourth down end goal,
but obviously Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Was backed up there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
It happened a different point in the game when they
couldn't score on the fourth down that came immediately after that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
This was after back.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
To back Tommy Townsend punts. First one got down inside
the ten, but the Texans committed a penalty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
That happens.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Chris Boyd ran out of bounds without getting pushed immediately
upon trying to run down the field as their gunner.
That's a penalty, and Jim John Harbaugh decided to make
them rekick and tell me did they and they did
and it did pay off for the two points. They
got a great return from Damian Pierce after and then
were stuffed on four downs inside the ten they had

(01:25:59):
gone for on fourth down earlier. And this is another
area where I think CJ's got to be better.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
We'll get to Scotty Boris here in one second.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
I'm not sure how that fourth down play develops into
I should throw deep down the field on fourth and
short to John Metchi who's well covered.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
They drew a very.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Controversial or a very soft pass interference penalty, so the
drive continued. But there just has to be a better way.
But there's got to be a better outcome from that play.
Just somebody's in the flat, somebody ran a little circle,
somebody came out of the backfield, Dalton Schultz, look anything,
there's got to be somebody just cross the line of scrimmage,
snap throw, move the chains that they're just not doing

(01:26:43):
enough of that. I think CJ still thinks every snap
can be greatness if it's passed, and I'm going to
buy enough time as I think I can to make it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
It's not working.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
I just want to get to a point where he
just has time in general and doesn't have to buy it.
But don't buy it, just have it provide to you
to get it on a subscription. Just do that gets time.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
So buying it is something that none of the thirty
Major League teams have done. When it comes to you
want Alex Bregman, He's available, He's a free agent. Spent
the last week and really before that with the Kyle
Tucker trade kind of acknowledging that now that two corner
infielders have been acquired by the Astros, one in trade
and one as a signing as a free agent, of

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the days of Alex Bregman being an Astro have come
to a conclusion. Articles have been written about them getting
to this path and what it likely means, et cetera.
And Scott Boris's client remains unsigned, we know there's plenty
of interest her Zero reports doesn't mean it had to happen.
Zero reports of a contract offer coming his way other

(01:27:45):
than the one that Houston has offered. And if anything
goes down in baseball, hot stovely you know Scott Borsch
is there to tell you about it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Well, yeah, but you just said that he hasn't gotten
any offers that we know of, and yet he's surprisingly
upbeat on social media because a couple hours ago he said,
happy holidays everyone, Twenty twenty five is going to be amazing.
I only say that because there's three exclamation points after it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
At a Bregg Underscore one for the first time since
November thirteenth, hosted that message just before we got on
the air.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Today, Alex Bregman.

Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
Speaks not about his free agency, only about the holidays
and how awesome twenty twenty five is going to be.
If you remember prior to twenty twenty four, he said
in an interview, I think this is gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
My best year yet. How that go? It wasn't It
was good, but it wasn't its best.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
It was good when he salvaged it because it was
so bad to start like slow starter, that's been his MO.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Well add some o's slow, my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Crazure and look, the whole team was awful not named
Kyle Tucker. And then he got hurt and the team
took off, and now he's either one of the places.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Yeah, a bruise, that's a break.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Did Alex Bregman's agent react to Alex Bregman's former team
adding a first basement to the tune of sixty million
bucks over three years.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Well, funny you should ask, since he made some recent
comments to the athletics Chandler Rome. You might know him
from such radio shows as The A Team. He had
the following to say, quote, Over time, teams learn if
you're running from leadership and talent, you're running from the
ultimate goal. Now the ultimate goal here end of quote.

(01:29:23):
By the way, the ultimate goal here is the first
cousin of the ultimate prize, the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Championship.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
The late great Bill Walton would have said, but no,
this is a World Series championship that he's clearly referencing.
And it's interesting because Scott Boris is the guy that
makes this happen so often, this being well, this player's
been with this team, and we, meaning me, Scott Boris

(01:29:52):
and my client player X, would like more money than
they're willing to give us. A lot more In some
cases so instead of, you know, trying to come to
some sort of agreement, We're just going to hold out,
hold out, hold out, hold out, take as long as
it takes to get the number we want. In this case,
in front of that deal where it needs to be
right now, it's a one that we know of, it
needs to be a two. I think that's what they're saying,

(01:30:15):
give or take here, they being he and Alex Bregman,
and it's just I don't know, I leadership in the
intangibles and all the things that you can't put on
a stat box or a page that is one of,
if not the biggest at this point selling points for
Alex Bregman on your baseball team.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
There have been zero two hundred million dollar contracts handed
out this offseason or free agency outside of New York.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
One has a seven one.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Soto got seven hundred and sixty five million, fifteen years
worth of payment and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Whatever deferred there.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
I don't believe there was any on his have an
eight one all Saiden Une yep, the Yankees to the
tune of two hundred and eighteen million over eight seasons
for Max Freed. Now there have been two very lucrative
deal signed in addition to those just not with the
two in front of it, one hundred and eighty two
million for Willia Damas Blake Snell, both of them to
either go or stay on the West Coast. Adamas is

(01:31:10):
now a Giant, Snell is now a Dodger. The most
money handed out to any other player this offseason is
seventy five million. A couple players have gotten that couple
of pitchers again, another from New York to stay in
New York shaman Ia recently, and Nate Ivaldi with the
Rangers to stay there. There are handful of big time

(01:31:33):
free agents who will get big time contracts. Bregman is
one of them. Probably Corbyn Burns is another. Probably Pete
Alonzo is another. Are any of them getting two hundred million?
I ask today, the day after Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Pete Alonzo maybe? So you think he might get a
deal for more than Alex Bregman. If you're saying him first, well,
what are we what's his age? What's his production? Well,
I mean he's getting it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
Look at how does the landscape of what's happened so
far this offseason give you any any indicator that two
hundred thousand, two hundred million, Sorry, dollar contracts are not
happening for anybody else, or is it just they haven't
happened yet.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
I think in his case they haven't happened yet, and
I think in Alex cases they might still happen, even
though again I keep going back to this, the Astros
offer for Alex Bregman that everybody was scoffing at. Most
of all, Scott Boris clearly was gonna pay him twenty
six million dollars a year.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
It was basically the Willia Doomas deal less one year.
It's twenty six million dollars a year. One fifty six
is what he was offered by the Astros. A Damas
got one more year at the same rate from the Giant.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
And so what Scott Boris is saying, if I read
between the lines, even if he doesn't probably mean this,
is that, well, you weren't willing to go a little
bit extra for the intangibles. It's a fair what he's
saying without saying it. This was fair market value if
it was based strictly on the numbers, and really in
that case it was probably more than he should have gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
After he signs.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Do you feel like the ASTROS offer will look better,
or it won't change.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
How you see it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
After he sign he signs wherever he signs for whatever
he signs, We don't know. Man feel like, well, yeah,
that was a totally reasonable offer that he actually could
have should have taken, or that if they didn't lowball him,
they didn't take themselves out of the game, they negotiated reasonably.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Well, if he gets two hundred million from anybody, it's
gonna make everybody here say, oh, the Astros weren't really serious,
which that's kind.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Of what we might think today.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
Yeah, but being serious about who you're offering it to
versus just being serious or two different things.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
Yeah, that's probably a better way to put it. Not
being serious versus the team that signed and made a
mistake and you're not it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
That's what I'm saying, and I think that he is.
He being Bregmant is going to end up leaning more
towards Springer than he does towards Korea, which with the
caveat that Korea has to stay healthy, but he's still
ten times the player offensively or that George Springer is,
and probably defensively too.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
What if you win, though, What if you win when
he comes there? You just signed them a six or
seven year deal. That's where where he's in the playoffs,
you're winning around, you're winning two rounds, you're advancing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
You do that and you're one in two and in three,
and then the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:19):
Other side of the contract hits, and then he's a
thirty four year old player, and then he's not quite
the player he once was. This team can't have that,
according to Jim Crane, yep, other teams otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
And I think that there's a very good chance of
that happening, particularly if he signs with say the Red Sox,
who just signed, like Walker Buehler to a one year deal,
where that's really going to be good because it's just
the one year. But yeah, you're right. I think there's
a chance that on the back side of this, the
team that does invest in Alex Bregman could be we'll
have a little buyer's remorse.

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All you guys are gonna love our signature segment coming
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Let's just say an old culprit was at it again
yesterday on the NBA schedule. And by the way, you
mentioned that Wex This like kind of not really a
war of words, but like I think it's in interesting

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and maybe this is just part of the media trying
to create a story on a holiday where you can't
just cover the games. That would be too easy. This
kind of like Cold War, silent war, not so silent
war between the NBA and the NFL. Now, like the
NFL is infringing upon what is supposed to be the
NBA's day.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
I thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Well, I mean when it falls on the weekend and
the NFL chose to play games on Christmas Day and
the NFL chose to play, I seem intentional. The NBA
is like, yeah, we get it. This is a weekend,
this is huge. They're the big dog. Of course they
should be playing. They shouldn't be afraid of playing. They
shouldn't be trying to be nice. Oh no, no, that's
your day. Well, they don't play games on Wednesdays. Christmas

(01:36:41):
is on a Wednesday. What are they doing? They want
to make more money, and I do think it's I
don't think it's going to be quite like college football
is now, where you can pretty much watch a game
any night or the week. Couple conferences decide for a
month a year. Yep, all of our teams are going
to be playing on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Thursdays, and you can fill up
the nights and you can sell. It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
The NFL added Thursday night games permanently. They're gonna play
playing Saturday games this weekend. There were two games yesterday,
there's another game tonight. There's three games on Saturday. The
rest of the NFL slate plays Sunday. Other than the
team's playing on Monday night. That's almost every night a
football for almost an entire week of NFL football. I
don't know how much would have been made out of

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it if the postgame interviews from the second to last game,
the Lakers game and the last game, the Sun's game,
wouldn't have included an all time NBA ratings winner, big
time player champion hadn't said something about it during his
postgame interview. Lebron did initially after he watched Austin Reeves

(01:37:41):
save them from a loss against Golden State, and I
don't I shouldn't say it that way. He watched Austin
Reeves hit a game winning shot after Lebron did all
he could to keep his team in the game, after
Anthony Davis hurt himself when nobody touched him.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
That's what I should have said. So it was a
regular Lakers season, yes, except for this year. Usually when
Lebron's on the floor, they do suck.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
And we're only a couple days removed from me saying
if Durant is healthy, they might win. If Durant and
Booker healthy, they might win. Bradley Beal doesn't matter at all.
Bil probably had his most important game as a Sun
in helping them not lose to the Denver Nuggets last night.
They played a really good game, and they are on
the fringe of not being among the five worst teams

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in the West. They've been in the eleventh spot, the
ten spot. Again, those worst five teams don't even qualify
for the play in tournament. But Kevin Durant also echoed
the same thing, and you know Lebron saying Christmas is
our day. Some of the early ratings suggest as soon
as the NFL's two games were over, and maybe even
earlier since the Texans game was second and the second
half was rather uninteresting, especially after they took their twenty

(01:38:45):
nine point lead, the ratings were good for the first
three tip offs and eleven am tip off, a one
to thirty tip off in the middle of the day
tip off.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
The Spurs and the Mavericks had those first.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
Two and then they got Lakers, Warriors, Sons, Nuggets without
an NFL game on the calendar, and their ratings were excellent,
very good NBA numbers and very improved from last year's numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
Yeah, and that's I mean, that was by design.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
I would like, well, the NFL had decided to have
a third game on Christmas Day, we'd have a little
bit better idea of well how much impact what it
certainly looks like just simply not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Having a game was enough? Maybe who was in it?

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
Because obviously Curry and Lebron and their respect team feel
like the big viewership teams.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Right, But I'm glad you said that because don't you
feel like if the NFL had decided to put like
Dolphins Jets on that stand and then we were to
see them blow the NBA out of the water.

Speaker 4 (01:39:42):
Well, blow them out of the water is fine, But
the NBA is only concerned with are our numbers good?

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Did we get good number? We're not gonna beat the NFL.
We're not gonna have numbers like the NFL. But did
we get good numbers? Yeah? That's why I think lately
and they did yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
Yeah, but I mean to me in this goes for
both leagues, even though the NFL can basically you know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
We're schezula ya for Tuesday on a random November morning,
Who are you guys gonna watch?

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
We are.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
That's the NFL. But just to address that aspect of this,
like you know, the the NBA is they they are,
and we obviously are employed by an NBA team, which
is screaming for.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Hey over here. Look, we're a really good team.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Oklahoma City and Houston in an NBA Cup game. Oh wait,
it wasn't a very good game, you know, like that
kind of thing happened. But for the most part, the Rockets,
they don't have a superstar on their team, they don't
have a face of the franchise, and yet they're one
of the best teams in the NBA this year.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Yeah, twenty and nine has them second only to Oklahoma City.
They still have two more games to play against Oklahoma
City have already seen them three times. That is new
because of the NBA Cup additional matchup. But Oklahoma City
finished first in the West last year, tied for first,
they had the number one seed. They've been atop the
Western Conference the entire season with their undefeated start to
the year, and nobody's caught them since not one of

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the ten teams chosen to play on Christmas Day. I
said in the past, they have to do that. Lebron's retiring,
Steph Curry's retiring. They're slowing down. If not that Kevin
Durant' retired, it's happening. They're not gonna play forever. You
have to tell people, show people that Alexander exists exactly.

(01:41:28):
At some point, they just have to be a bigger
part of your television, national television product. Instead, they got
the day off and tonight they'll play at Indiana on
NBA TV and nobody will watch.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
And that's what I was gonna get to like when
those guys that you just mentioned, and it's all all
of them, is gonna happen in the next three years,
five years at most.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
Well, if Durant gets traded to the Rockets, will probably
play six. Please don't do that, Rafel, please just don't
do that. He's not gonna do that. Yeah, their time
is running out.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
There's not that guy. The guy that we just mentioned
is about it. They have a serious problem on their
hands as far as there's not a face of the
league or faces of the league right now for the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Well, they'd like to point back to last year's playoffs.
I would imagine and look at the Western Conference finals
for instance. That's Anthony Edwards against Luca. I'm sure they
would love for those two people to be the faces
of the league. And well, you can do that played
his way into that caliber star.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
You're sure that as soon as Anthony Edwards puts on
a Rockets uniform, Yes, that makes much more sense. Awesome.
Can you imagine me that day in the studio.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
I can't wait to see it if it happens. Love
the team they have, I need that badly. Yeah, they're
kind of Midland this year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
The other side of it, I think Dallas provided they're healthy,
and they're obviously not again as Luca was hurt yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
The thirds of their trio are aging superstars. Even though
I know Kyrie just put up thirty nine yesterday. Klay
Thompson's not long for this league. Not long for this league,
that's all true.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
But Luca is and Luca, even with these crappy teams
he used to have when they were going to the playoffs,
they were playing in some of the most entertaining series,
even if they were on the losing end. They've been
to the Western Conference finals before this year. Do you
think he's someone they want face front?

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
Yeah, no, for sure, But do you think Luca has
a little bit of Harden in him, and I don't
mean the obvious, but I do mean the obvious too.
He plays just like him, and nobody liked that because
Harden's best years here in Houston. Still I feel and
I can't stand the guy now aren't appreciated because it
was this guy shooting free throws.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
Again.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
I don't think he plays it in a begging for
fouls type of way. He's a huge flopper. He does
think he's fouled on every play, but in a different way.
Just complains all the time, throws his arms in the air.
He should be running neck and neck with Draymond like
every year for technic. I don't agree with that. I
think he is much more likable. Watch a typical Dallas game,
watch him play.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
He's going to hit a bunch of shots and every
trip down the floor he's going to wind the official.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
It's not just like most teams stars stars do.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
It's like an enormate amount of time Tim duncan like
give it, huge, whiners huge.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Give it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Steph is the greatest jump shoter of all time and
he's won something. Who's the other guy you mentioned?

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
I went back a few years Joey Crawford's guy, Timmy Duncan.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Oh, well see, that's that's what I'm talking about here,
Like Tim Duncan, how did they market him?

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
And they didn't? That was by his own design, means Vanilla,
I want a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
And I know Missy, the ultimate Spurs fan, would hear
this and just start jumping up and down for the
billionth time. But like that was the most boring franchise ever.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
She's been jumping up and down this entire segment, screaming
at her iHeartRadio app or radio.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
You know, she's been screaming, what's that? Victor? Hello, Star
of the league, face of the vice of the NBA.
Every day moving forward from today, Victor, are you guys hello?

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
I got a text from a couple of guys that
host the show before us, because they like to do
this whenever he has some insane statistical anomaly in his game,
like ten blocks in the game or four how many scored?

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Yesterday? He was his fifth started with a four. Yeah,
it didn't matter. Two forty points scores the team the
other team with a forty point scorer one by Actually,
how many points did did Victor score in a win.

Speaker 3 (01:45:17):
Well, they didn't win yesterday, right, I don't care that
he scored whatever he scored, Like, great, oh good, they're fifteen,
they're five hundred now, they're fifteen and fifteen, right, or
fifteen and sixteen after the lost five hundred. Okay, so
they got they got to five hundred now, And all
I hear when I say that kind of stuff is well,
they gotta get him help.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Well, how about your one entire season removed from this
team doing the same thing. Lose a bunch of games,
lose a bunch of games, lose a bunch of games.
Who cares? Oh my god, they're five hundred now. That
was very respectful what the Rockets did. It's not respectful
in any way that the Spurs are now doing it.
It's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
Are they doing it because of him? Clearly? Because they
has no tell help?

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
No, he's an MVP caliber town with only so much
around him. I mean, their teams are built differently. But
of course Victor is the reason why, the number one
reason why.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Somebody was like, why wasn't he on the graphic that
the NBA released Because the team he played beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
That's why he lifted up over top of the graphic,
you can't see him anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
Speaking of guys that are going to be retiring soon,
thank god one of them was at it again yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
We will discuss in our signature segment.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
Next the A on Sports Talk seven ninety. This is
Jabari Smith Jabari for three.

Speaker 11 (01:46:36):
It stay clutched with the iheartradiol here every Rockets game
on Sports Talk seven nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Where now a new signature seven called.

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
What's Up with? What's up with? What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
I say it was?

Speaker 13 (01:47:02):
Who is that?

Speaker 11 (01:47:04):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
The obvious question is when do I start singing some
of the imaging? And the answer is never perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
That's a couple more days to fill at two thirties,
filled Thursdays at four thirty with this signature segment, and
can fill the others?

Speaker 13 (01:47:17):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
I can't compete with that performance? Uh most can. I'm
sure you could do it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
You know who can't compete with another performance is anybody
who's not being a dirty, low down terrible NBA player
who does low down, dirty NBA thinks like Draymond Green
for example, did you see his act on the free
throw line?

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
I did yesterday and I actually did they call a foul?
What did they call? That's what I need to know.
What did they call when this happened? And I will
run through the particulars.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
So he's there on the foul line, the ball is
shot and he is going up against two.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Is that that he's done?

Speaker 4 (01:47:59):
Daltonnect is on his right, yes, and ruey Hachi Mura
is on his left.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
He hooks not one, but both of them.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Yeah, They're gonna box them out and use your arms
a little bit, just to kind of establish a position.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
They put their arms out.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
And he he put the he put his arms in
like pull up position, only there was no bar involved,
and he was pulling up on them. And by pulling up,
I mean he was falling down and dragging them down
with him.

Speaker 4 (01:48:26):
Now he took them both to the ground at the
same time by hooking their arms and tackling them while flopping,
which makes his on the ground, which makes his quote
all the more spectacular.

Speaker 15 (01:48:41):
I e.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
What is up with this?

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Because we're a team that don't sell calls. You can't
get Steph to sell a call if his life depended
on it. I just needed I mean, it's gonna be
hard for me to get through this sentence by sentence
so we're a team that naturally plays through that. We've
always said, you don't want to learn to practice, or
you don't want to learn and practice flopping, because all

(01:49:04):
of a sudden you get to the playoffs and you're
doing what you've been practicing, they don't call it, and
those are turnovers, and we feasted on teams that did
that over the years. That is absolute shade thrown at
James Harden, by the way, So we don't want to
be that team. We take pride in playing through the
contact and just getting the job done. So I think
it's great for us. Okay, so you lost yesterday, so
that's first and foremost. It didn't work for you. Secondly,

(01:49:27):
you can't get Steph to sell a call if his
life depended on it. The guy's been flopping his entire career,
not to mention, so have you not to mention? Your
whole run of being a championship caliber team was predicated
on your big man, the only one you've ever had,
Andrew Boget, you know, the guy that was there before

(01:49:49):
you played center, absolutely being the beneficiary of a billion
illegal screens where the other guy was certainly not flopping
when they weren't getting the f I called for them.
But you're gonna do that, You're gonna say all that
after you did this, which was the latest incident that
was so obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
What's up with this? Draymond?

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Like, by the way, on his last or not his last,
but a recent podcast, he actually used the phrase I
was trying to sell a call, so he directly contradicted
his own quote here himself on camera.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Yeah, if we're in season for the NBA, probably just
in season.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
I don't know about the postseason because Golden State has
to make sure they get there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
We probably could have a what's up with that? Just
on Draymon.

Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
He talks a lot now because of his podcast, even
more than he does on the court. He had his
calling out of Zach Edy just kind of out of
nowhere the other day and then Edie I love that
that went viral, like just pushing Draymond around and Draymond
couldn't cry any harder.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
You gotta call this. Where's the foul? Come on, man,
he's pushing me.

Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
There was a foul called on this particular play in
the Lakers game. Dalton Connect technically was the player that
drew the foul by getting taken to the ground right
by Draymond.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
So it was a good call.

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
This has happened before during Best of X, and I'm
sure it'll happen again during a number of our segments.

Speaker 13 (01:51:13):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
You know which side is wrong, which side is right.

Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
The argument is over when one particular sports personality checks in.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
That's Skip Bayless. Has he checked in on this? Oh boy?

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
He checked in on Draymond simple just five words in
his post on X Draymond Green dirtiest player ever.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
Okay, that's not accurate, and he's certainly a candidate, But
Bill Ambier does exist in.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
An era where dirty play was just a foul, a
common foul. Foul. Hey, you closed line him and he's
bleeding all over the floor, a common foul, and then
he got mad at you, started a fistfight, and you
were issued technicals and continued to play. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Yeah, Well, some people like the eighties and nineties better
than today's soft SAWFT league.

Speaker 4 (01:52:03):
Someone else grabbed several replays of his non acting begging
for fouls. Draymond is hilarious. He still acts like there
aren't five or six replay angles of this nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Well that's the thing, Like this guy has done this
so many times, and we do live in the HD era.
There are multiple cameras with very very high resolution getting
his shenanigans caught.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
Yeah. Plus, this was a free throw. Everybody saw it
and you didn't need a replay to see it. Everybody
was looking at it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Yeah, and in case you missed it, the most important
part of the game is the basketball itself, his impact
on his team, who did tie the game late after
the Lakers said I'm not guarding Steph Curry wide open
down three on an inbounds play.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
That's stupid, and he made the shot and tied the game.

Speaker 4 (01:52:45):
Draymond's stat line Christmas Day yesterday and a two point
loss to the Lakers. Three points. He made one of
his five three pointers. That's how he got to three points.
That's sixteen percent shooting overall. He missed all his twos.
He did have five fouls, he did have one TECH,
and he also not found in the box score once duplex.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
He did get double digit rebounds, and as per usual,
he in this case tied team high and assists because
Curry actually decided to distribute the ball this time.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
As the point guard.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
You're familiar with the social media phenomenon or trend that's
out there just for absolutely no reason. Out of nowhere,
someone will put a post on one of the outlets
and say, bleep it so and so highlights. There's a
post that says bleep it Draymond Green highlights and probably
could be ten minutes long. I think it's two minutes

(01:53:35):
long of one. Nobody else in the league does this
dirty play after the other. Yeah, like the dirt is
nobody it's this not such a dirty the dirty place
he has.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Nobody else does it even once for so many of them.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Nobody even does it at a pickup game at the
Why most of the time, and there's all sorts of
shenanigans that go there.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
I he's hilarious, though. Look, that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
He's such an enigma for me because I do think
his commentary is I mean, it's up there. Like I
would have no problem. All right, we're gonna add Draymond
Green to the cast of T and T. Like that's
a big deal, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
It would be awesome about that if, as Lisa's my
best guess is they would add him. Let's say they
kept the other three Kenny, Shack and Chuck they would
just gang up on him.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Of course they would, and they would have every reason to.
But I like, remember what a big deal it was
when they added Shack and how bad he was, by
the way, but he's become like Draymond would be good
television and oh my gosh, the argument he and Barkley
would get into, and he would play the ring card
like everybody else does, but Barkley did this kind of stuff.
But Barkley came by it honestly, and Barkley would just

(01:54:39):
sit there at the foul line, just boom, elbow right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
To your gut.

Speaker 4 (01:54:42):
And in an era where John Stockton did it, Karl
Alone did it, yep, a caem olaj One did it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
That was different.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
But they're not going out of their way acting like
they're not selling call. They just didn't talk about it, right.
No podcast back then?

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
No. Could you imagine if the Mailman had a podcast,
I don't even want to know what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
Would he be about the NBA, or would be about
hunting and outdoors and eighteen wheelers could be about a
topic probably nobody wants to listen to him about. If
he was personal, yeah, yeah, probably be a deadbeat podcast, though.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
He's where he belongs over there, stashed in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
The eighteen on Sports Talk seven ninety he's technical.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
How do you know that? Because he's freaking.

Speaker 5 (01:55:27):
Awesome and well he's a spectacle. I have taken this
segment and just flung it out this window.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Adam Wexler Adam Clinton, The eight team continues on Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 11 (01:55:48):
Eight.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
Team rolling along here on Sports Talks seven ninety Probably
my favorite headline of the day is that Oklahoma will
play college football bowl game.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
With more than three thirty percent of its team in
the portal.

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
With that in mind, this is insane. We will have
our stone cold locks tomorrow at four point thirty. But
with that unfortunate but obvious college football fact, we're not
doing a college game.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
You do not have to pick a college game.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
You're more than welcome to anyither Friday games or Saturday games,
and there are quite a few of them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
You can choose them. But none of the playoff games
are this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:56:28):
So I'm not making you make a selection on Louisiana
TCU or Miami of Ohio and Colorado State, not knowing
exactly how many nil losses Miami of Ohio might have
had this past couple of weeks, so that is off
the board clearly, since we didn't feel the need to
jam in a Texans Ravens pick on Monday, there is

(01:56:50):
no Texans game to pick either, so pick get a
prop in there, and the other four slots to fill
out our five weekly selections can be anything.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
Would you have take taken the over going into that
game considering who was playing and.

Speaker 4 (01:57:07):
I mean Texans Ravens, Yeah, uh, I probably if I
had my choice, I would have just taken the Ravens
to cover.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Yeah, but no, I'm saying you have to do over
under with who's involved.

Speaker 4 (01:57:20):
I didn't think that as long as the Texans don't
get shut out, which is what I kind of would
go into that game thinking, yeah, I probably would have.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Like you had to take the under yesterday, I don't
even remember what. I don't even remember what the number one.

Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
Under, but it just it didn't seem like to me,
and I know they've been playing better and then they
just turned in their best game of the season. Talking
about the Ravens defense, I don't think they were at
that stage. Over under was forty seven and the Ravens
were sizeable favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
That's the highest number that has been associated with the
Texans game in at least six weeks. I can almost
guarantee it because I've picked an over under every time.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
It ended at thirty three, so it was way under
the forty seven I look it up. But the Ravens
covered rather easily, even though they were owed favorite of
almost a touchdown six and a half point favorites.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
I just they're so I'm looking right now.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
Yeah, forty two and a half, forty six and a half,
forty three, forty three and a half forty forty two.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
That's just the last.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
That's just why I can see him front of it.
A good defense. They have an awful offense or less
than an average offense. So unless the other team's putting
the points up, which they were in this game, the
Texans don't give up thirty points often.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
And you know what's crazy there, I'm guarantee you they're
the only team this year that has gotten a safety
on Derrick Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
No one has done that to him.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
He had a really typical Derrick Henry game outside of
that play and a few others, but he.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Came out out against the Texans.

Speaker 4 (01:58:43):
No It's just he was himself and almost almost three
hours in we got football at five coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
There's plenty to discuss with the Texans.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
I spent at least all of last week, if not
the or Monday weeks prior to that, at least four
to five week in on this, and now everybody has
hopped aboard. Oh, I guess Lamar Jackson is an MVP
caliber player. Everybody was watching him yesterday. I mean people
are writing articles this morning, late last night, Lamar Jackson

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enters the MVP race, announces his presence.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Are you joking? Where have you been? We had our
guest on last earlier this week, Alex Glaze, and I said,
he's base.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
I know it's a year to year thing. If he's
not out playing Josh Allen, then that's fine. Give Josh
Allen the MVP. But he's having one of the greatest
seasons in the history of quarterback play. He moved up
on the all time chart. There's now one quarterback ever
who's had a passer rating higher than his. Should it
stay at this level. He's the Jets quarterback and it

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was a couple of years ago. His name is Aaron Rodgers.
He has better numbers, and I think more eye popping
plays and performances, even with a team that has a
slightly slightly worst record than Buffalo by one win.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
You know who he is, right then, Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (02:00:02):
There's no where does Josh Allen have him on this
year other than rushing touchdowns, which Josh Allen wouldn't have.
And again this can go into the battle record and
team record. What do you mean, Well, what's what's Buffalo
right now?

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
I just said that they have one more win? So
this is why this is like insane and I always
bring it back to the NBA. I don't know how
I'm even able to do this.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
You know who he is? Who Lamar is?

Speaker 5 (02:00:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
Who's Lamar?

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Lamar Jackson is twenty nineteen James Harden and Josh Allen
is Jannis.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
That's what's going on here.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
James Harden had an MVP season, led his team to
sixty five wins, and was a hamstring away from winning
an NBA title. Then statistically he had a better season
the next year, but because Jannis was the flavor of
the month and what's his face, Zach?

Speaker 15 (02:00:56):
What is is that?

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Who he wrote it? I don't know ESPN.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
Zach dark Hair friends with Maury. I think he was
the guy that wrote, all right, we've given James his
MVP award. We cannot do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
Meeting Zach Low. Yeah, Zach Low, I think he's the
guy that wrote that art with the ESPN, one of
their many stupid layoffs at the time. Wow, that was
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
I thought it was a good decision in light of
this article because I thought it was this ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (02:01:22):
Is there some Lvar Jackson fatigue and that he's a
two time winner and he just won it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
That's awesome, so so much better than he was MVY.
He should have one.

Speaker 13 (02:01:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
It's really the worst part of this, and I do
believe that people think this people being the dumbass voters.
He's got Dereck Henry. Now he does have Derrick Henry.
Now that's absolutely an impact. Fair to him to be
judged on that, because what you're saying is true. He's
playing better this year. But I do think there's a separation.

Speaker 4 (02:01:53):
You could have the best the second best season ever
for a quarterback and an MVP caliber.

Speaker 2 (02:01:59):
Conversation Andjosh Allen lost a five.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
If somebody else is having a better season that year
because you have the second best ever.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
Well, it's only a one season thing.

Speaker 4 (02:02:06):
If you don't think he's out performing from a value standpoint,
this other player.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
I don't care what it means historically, it's just a
seasonal award.

Speaker 4 (02:02:13):
But in this individual season, I think he has done
things as valuable as any player in this league, if
not more so. And there are plenty of numbers to
back it up. If that's what you want to use.
I tend to believe those are pretty useful things to
look at, and yesterday one of them got even better.
Lamar Jackson is the only player in the entire league

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averaging over six yards a carry, and he went up
to he added a half yard per carry yesterday.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Running back or quarterback player.

Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
So he's got four scores in eight hundred and fifty
two yards. Josh Allen has eleven scores and five hundred yards.
They're both in the top ten in yards per carry
and in passing numbers. Like I said, his passer rating
is like the greatest thing anybody's ever seen. As long
as you didn't watch Aaron Rodgers that one year, Lamar's
at the top of the league thirty nine touchdown passes.
Nobody has more, not even Josh Allen, who is not

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quite where he is. Josh Allen has twenty six. By
the way, he got two fewer picks than Josh Allen
every Just just take a look. He's been good all year.
This isn't new, This didn't just happen yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:03:18):
You know what The dumbest part of all what you
just got done saying is the Ravens were questioning whether
they should extend him.

Speaker 2 (02:03:24):
Because of something that has nothing to do with the
MVP Rice. It's just the postseason.

Speaker 4 (02:03:29):
I can love Lamar Jackson as much as I clearly do,
and still recognize he's just been okay in the playoff set.
Both of these guys, Josh Allen's been awesome in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:03:38):
And neither of them can beat Pat Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
This is this shapes up as a year where I
really think either or both of them will get I mean,
they're probably gonna play each other first.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Unfortunately, if you know, if there are.

Speaker 4 (02:03:50):
Upsets in the opening round and Baltimore wins their division,
then the Texans are going to Kansas City and the
Steelers are going to Buffalo in the Division one.

Speaker 2 (02:03:57):
I want to go, saying the Steelers the Ravens are
going to Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (02:04:00):
Yeah, I don't want the Texans to go back to
Kansas City. That would suck as much fun as it
was the first time.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
You can't beat them if you're not on the field
with them, that's true.

Speaker 3 (02:04:08):
But you can't beat them if you're the Texans, Well
you had me, you can't beat him. The A Team
on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:04:20):
Two lifelong Houston sports guys named Adham Talking Your Teams series,
Adam Clinton and Adam Wexler are the.

Speaker 5 (02:04:31):
A team A.

Speaker 3 (02:04:42):
The Football at five conversation continues. Now this is the
first Football at five conversation, but the football conversation was
going on all show long because of what happened yesterday,
or in this case, what didn't happen, for the Texans
could not score a single solitary point on offense, and
you barely scored any only because Derrick Henry was the

(02:05:04):
victim of his first safety. Again, I haven't looked this up.
There's no way that's happened this year, none whatsoever. In fact,
didn't have a ninety eight yard touchdown run at one
point this year, which means he was pretty much backed
up to the same spot, but was not tackled in
the end zone anyway. There were a lot of sound
bites to come out of yesterday's situation. That's what I'll

(02:05:24):
call it, because that's what the Texans are in right now.
Wex it's a situation where they know that obviously the
offensive line has issues. Obviously they have injury issues like
every team's dealing with, by the way at this time
of year, and I'm not going to say they're the
worst struck down by that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
I still think San.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
Francisco, because of Christian McCaffrey and everything else they've dealt with,
still might have more of a of a ding in
their offensive side of things than the Texans, because I
just don't think the Texans were going to be that
good with this kind of line.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
It's very difficult to overcome.

Speaker 4 (02:05:57):
They've shown it from the beginning of the season to
where we sit to They were not an explosive offense
when Nico Collins, Steph Diggs, and Tank Dell were all healthy.
They were an okay offense. That's all they've been all year.
They were clearly much much worse yesterday, and a lot
of it has to do with the line. Yesterday app
to also coincide with the worst passing day that CJ
I think has ever had, not numerically, not statistically. I mean,

(02:06:18):
watch him throw the ball. Why is it going there?
Why is he missing this pass? Why is he missing
that pass? Why does he have protection and a place
to throw the football? And he doesn't pass it at all,
but rather spins around and loses eleven additional yards on
third and three or third and four. It was bad day,
I think for what was at stake and kind of
where they'd like to be two weeks from now. I
think there was a lot on the line for them

(02:06:40):
to kind of push past some of the hurdles and
losing tank Dell on offense, especially in the way they did,
and they were only a couple of days removed from
that emotionally, Yes, big hurdle, they ran right into the hurdle,
and then they ran right into the next one, and
then they skim their knees up on the next one,
and then they went on the steeple chase and they
fell in the water.

Speaker 2 (02:06:58):
I mean, it was bad.

Speaker 4 (02:07:00):
Was bad on both sides. If you were watching it,
you could see it. Then thirty one to two. Says
it most yards they've given up all year. They couldn't
get them off the field. They couldn't even get them
to third down. When the Ravens had the ball, the
Texans defense couldn't even get them there. And the Texans
were obviously very very bad on third down conversions also,
which has been the case a lot more often recently.

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They've played sixteen games now and even though the week
is just beginning, they rked eighteenth in points per game.
They're twenty first in yards per play on offense in
both categories. That's back half of the league. That's not good,
that's not even average. And their offensive scoring their offensive
touchdowns by game. They've scored more than two offensive touchdowns

(02:07:44):
in a game one time in their last ten games.
They have one more game before the playoffs. And I
don't know what offense they're gonna put out there, personnel wise,
considering there's nothing on the line standings and seating wise.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
They did it against Dallas.

Speaker 4 (02:07:57):
They had three ten eleven weeks in the last eleven
weeks of the NFL. Their offense is put the ball
in the end zone three times in a game once,
the literal opposite of explosive. They don't have big plays,
they aren't putting up a lot of points, and far
more often than not, they're doing next to nothing offensively.
It was their fourth game of the year where they've

(02:08:19):
scored one touchdown or less. And their record, obviously, I
think we can see even though they're nine to seven overall,
you kind of pluck out the games that matter as
they move forward. Well after next week's game against the Titans.
No matter how many games the Texans play, they're only
playing playoff teams. What do you think their record is
against playoff teams. They lost to Minnesota, they beat the Bills.

Speaker 2 (02:08:43):
Well, they're one and one. This is going well.

Speaker 4 (02:08:45):
They gave Josh Allen his worst performanceive maybe his career. Yeah,
one in one their playoff teams. You're in the middle
of the pack playoff team. You're five hundred sounds good,
but I'm gonna continue. Oh, then they lost to the Packers.
Then they lost to the Lions. Now they've lost to
the Chiefs and Ravens. Both of those were feel goals,
So that puts them at one in six against playoff teams.

Speaker 3 (02:09:03):
It really is a game of inches, because even if
they just beat the Packers and the Lions.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
It looks better at least what you just said.

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
For those of you listening in the opening hour of
the show, what he's talking about is what I brought
up is kind of the first thing about the twenty
twenty four Texans today.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
They would have won those games last ways to lose
this year.

Speaker 4 (02:09:23):
I just don't feel like I'm not I'm watching the
game unfold. I'm watching them to get to you know,
they take the lead on the Packers late, they're up
twenty two to twenty one with less than ten seconds left.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
I don't and obviously at that point I know what's happening.

Speaker 4 (02:09:36):
But the point is I don't feel like they're the
team that's going to be making the plays to win
the game nearly as often as I did a year ago,
because I watched them make the plays a year ago
more often than not. And their record and one score
games didn't change this weekend, and it's still pretty good.
Most of their wins are one score games. They fared
fine in some of those games. But the feeling I'm

(02:09:56):
just talking about the field, I don't feel the same way.
I don't think team feels. I don't think Nico and
CJ and Laramie and Titus, who are all part of
last year's offense.

Speaker 2 (02:10:04):
I don't feel like they feel the same way.

Speaker 3 (02:10:06):
Well, if it's a one score game late in the
game and you've got two minutes left, whatever, a minute fifty,
I don't feel like the Texans are going to be
able to get it done.

Speaker 13 (02:10:14):
Well.

Speaker 4 (02:10:14):
I also feel like they're lamenting the fact that it
is a one score game because we just spent the
last thirty minutes of second half football punting and turning.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
The ball over.

Speaker 3 (02:10:24):
They just started that early yesterday they did. But you're right,
somebody tweeted, I can't remember who it was. Yesterday, somebody
put the the last second, I mean last seconds, Like,
I can't believe this looking back considering what we've seen
this year of the game winning drive against the Bucks.
Now Tank Dell had two monster catches, including the game

(02:10:45):
winner to seal that saying he's not out there for
the worst reasons possible.

Speaker 2 (02:10:50):
But that's just it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:53):
Looks like a different time and it was last season,
and they just they don't do that now. If anything,
they're not we'ing in the second half if they're even
in the game, because they weren't yesterday, and they're finding ways,
like in the Detroit one, to let the other team
do what they were doing to other teams last year.

Speaker 4 (02:11:09):
Yeah, they had sixteen points in that game. They were
losing to the Bucks twenty three to sixteen. Midway through
the third quarter. They finished with thirty nine points.

Speaker 2 (02:11:18):
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (02:11:18):
They scored three touchdowns and got a field goal from
dare Ogunbowale. Well, they had to they did in winning
that game, and each time they scored, they had to
score again to go in front and take the lead.
Couple things from yesterday's postgame podium visits for both the
head coach and the quarterback. Demko gets their first some
of the conversation online and certainly here on the show

(02:11:43):
and each of the shows this afternoon and this morning
on Sports Talk seven to ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
Yeah, it was the third game in eleven days.

Speaker 4 (02:11:49):
I mean, how are they supposed to be up for
it like the other team was so Demiko on, Hey,
we ain't using that as an excuse.

Speaker 5 (02:11:55):
Good three games in eleven days.

Speaker 11 (02:11:57):
That they all four teams who had the games had
the same amount of time to prepare the same opportunities, Right,
there's no excuses for the schedule that we won't make
excuses for that. The schedule is what it is. When
the ball is kicked off, you put the pass on,
It's time to show up and play, right. It doesn't.
That doesn't change no matter when you're playing, who you're playing,

(02:12:18):
or where you're playing, you always have to be ready
to go.

Speaker 2 (02:12:20):
Would you like the NFL to not do this anyway
next year? Three games and eleven days for anybody?

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
I mean, well, if they do it, then don't tell
us you care about player safety. You can't have both.

Speaker 4 (02:12:32):
Yeah, I don't know if how you equate player safety
to this specifically, because what are you saying about player safety?
It's unsafe for them to go out there, the more
susceptible to injury. What you're really saying is the quality
of football, like an NBA back to back are four
games and five nights. You're just saying the quality of
play is going to suffer. But the injuries that did
take place over this stretch, you know, Shaq Mason hurt his.

Speaker 2 (02:12:55):
Knee, someone rolled up on them. That can happen at
any time. Right for Jimmy Ward, I don't think you
should see worse performance you should see players whose bodies
aren't ready to be at peak.

Speaker 4 (02:13:06):
Look at the first game. I know it was Miami,
but what also happened. The Texans were coming off and
off week. Of course they were fresher. They played like
they were fresher.

Speaker 2 (02:13:16):
They got after the quarterback, they forced all those They
did the things they've been doing all year, and probably
at a higher level because their bodies were ready for it.

Speaker 4 (02:13:25):
Same bodies that Baltimore had that ran all over the Texans.
Both sides of their line had five sacks, ran for
two hundred yards. So it only carries so much water.

Speaker 5 (02:13:32):
CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:13:33):
Stroud was asked about what we've also been talking about
all season long last year. Oh my god, nobody's ever
gonna have a rookie season like this. This is something
we never would have expected. It's over the top. It's unbelievable.
It's Pro Bowl caliber. They're in the playoffs. He's been unbelievable.
He only threw five picks. So what would he say
is the difference between year one and year two?

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
CJ?

Speaker 9 (02:13:54):
A Tyl Perser game the same way I did, you know,
and even you know, I think I've seen it better
than I ever have you know, just little banged ups.
I not really making plays, and that's that's a terrible excuse,
but I mean really just not making plays. That's really
the difference between last year and this year for me,
is just not making enough plays. So and you know,
there's times where you know, the players are to be

(02:14:15):
made and there's guys open, and I gotta find a
way to you know, make the play. Word makes my mission.
Do something just that I'm capable of doing, you know,
and and you know, winning that's a football game, you know,
that's really you know, up to me to lead our
team and those those times where guys are open and
you know, ultimately it's just me making plays. That's really

(02:14:37):
how I look at the difference between this year last year.
It's you know, can be fixed.

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
It's just to me hearing that SoundBite, I just can't
believe that's c J. Stroud saying that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
In life down Stroud frustrated and sad and it's.

Speaker 3 (02:14:53):
Over c J Stroud and just I can't make plays.
I need to make play. That's what he did last year.
That that's what he was known for, making those plays.
Oh it's third and long, Well he's gonna pull him
in look at the pass to Nico Collins in the
Was it the clincher or was it the playoff game?

Speaker 2 (02:15:10):
I can't remember which that was the clincher against the game. No, no, no,
not that one. Not the bomb.

Speaker 3 (02:15:16):
I'm talking about the ridiculous to Nicos the first game
of this season. Oh, I thought he did that late.

Speaker 4 (02:15:22):
It was before Mixon ran out the clock, that passed
to the sideline that Bill Belichick was gushing over.

Speaker 2 (02:15:27):
See. I thought, because they were both against the Colts,
I thought it was that game. So last year CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:15:31):
Stroud had eight games with a passer rating of one
hundred or better. He had one game with a passer
rating of under seventy five. This year he's had four
of the good ones, four with one hundred or better
and six games as opposed to one. Six games with

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a passer rating of below seventy five. His number stink
this year. We know there are a lot of reasons why,
but that can't be sugarcoated. He's out there playing with
ten other NFL players. His numbers are not good this year.

Speaker 3 (02:16:06):
It's gonna be crazy to see what the Texans brass
and I'm talking about everybody determines what the biggest reason
or reasons is, and then the decisions they make based
upon that. We will continue here on a Thursday edition
of the program.

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Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
I wish I could duplicate the exchange we had during
the break about another It's a significant news item NBA wise,
I said, how about pat Riley coming out and saying
we're not trading Jimmy Butler. That sounds like something that
the Heat would say right before they traded Jimmy Butler.

(02:17:34):
I wish I could say what what WEX said in response,
but I absolutely agreed with it.

Speaker 2 (02:17:38):
You could clean it up maybe, Well, it's not like he.

Speaker 4 (02:17:42):
Met with the media, happened to be at practice, or
you know, one guy got there, got a comment from
him about this.

Speaker 2 (02:17:48):
All he meets with the media regularly.

Speaker 4 (02:17:50):
From pat Riley issued by the Heat, we usually don't
comment on rumors, but all the speculation has become a
distraction to the team, is not fair to the players
and coaches. Therefore, we will make it clear Dash, we
are not trading Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
So can you can you kind of clean up what
you said?

Speaker 4 (02:18:08):
You thought that man, Jimmy Butler has not said anything himself,
and his teammates have. Honestly, I bet you it was
less than ten days ago reporters were asking Tyler Hero
in a post practice interview, you know this has been a.

Speaker 2 (02:18:20):
Distraction, and what kind of distraction? And all the news?
He's like, what news?

Speaker 4 (02:18:23):
I haven't checked my phone a while what, and they're like,
they told him that they're rumors that Jimmy Butler has
said there's teams he'd like to be traded to, and
Tyler's like, I mean, bleep. The vibes were pretty good
out here today. I don't really sense anything going on,
but there was more over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:18:40):
Guess what.

Speaker 4 (02:18:41):
This may may come as a surprise to you, but
there were five NBA games on yesterday on the network
that has the most invested in the NBA's product. They
just hired a new reporter when WOJ decided that St.
Bonaventure basketball is where it's at still weird, also for
health reasons. But yes, you don't think they're going to

(02:19:01):
do what the Worldwide Leader used to do with the
Deshaun Watson stuff about his contract, about him not wanting
to be there, and then ultimately about his cases.

Speaker 2 (02:19:11):
The news would be schefter or somebody would have the
news on Tuesday or Wednesday. Third, I'm not going to
say anything Sunday morning on NFL Countdown.

Speaker 4 (02:19:18):
Well, yesterday was the NBA's NBA Countdown, so of course
there was more Jimmy Butler discussion, pinpointing two teams rockets
not among them, Phoenix, Phoenix among them, and so I
think it pat Riley said, all right enough, already, this
rumor mill is just stop.

Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
Guess what. Probably didn't stop it with this statement.

Speaker 3 (02:19:38):
No, no, but it did strike me when you said
what you said, which is that basically, hey, knock it off, Jimmy.

Speaker 4 (02:19:45):
And I do think pat Riley is not like a
lot of other NBA personnel leaders, whether they're the team,
president of the GM or president of basketball ops.

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
He doesn't. He's not into this.

Speaker 4 (02:19:57):
I'm not worried about this right he he wants to.
I'm going to tell you what we're doing, and the
player isn't. I think that's a little bit of pat
Riley saying you can.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
Start all these rumors. You can talk to his agent.

Speaker 4 (02:20:10):
Even Jimmy can say it if he does, and he
hasn't publicly. But I'm not trading him, so none of
this stuff matters. I'm not moving him. You said something
that also is probably true, Go ahead and say it.
It doesn't mean the other twenty nine or fifteen gms
that are interested will say, oh, he's not being moved.
I guess I don't need to call them. Of course,

(02:20:32):
this isn't going to put a stop to anything.

Speaker 3 (02:20:34):
And they can go and get him, and probably somebody
will if that's indeed what's happening here.

Speaker 2 (02:20:41):
Knowing full well he's done this every place he's been.

Speaker 4 (02:20:45):
Now, he hasn't scorched earth his way out of Miami yet,
and I don't think that's on the horizon. I think
his time there has been good. I think he's very
respectful of management. I don't think this is I don't
like you, or I don't like the coach or anything
like that. He might not like the direction of them,
but I don't think they've done anything wrong. I mean,
their roster actually looks like especially in the East, Okay,

(02:21:06):
there's Boston and there's Cleveland, are.

Speaker 2 (02:21:10):
As good as any other team.

Speaker 4 (02:21:11):
The injury riddled Sixers, the Milwaukee Bucks, seems like you
could be third in the West or third in the East. Yeah,
but they really haven't. They've been right around five hundred,
which is about where they are. He's been out there
for the most part. He's played in twenty of their games,
so maybe a third of the season he's missed.

Speaker 2 (02:21:27):
His numbers are down in some areas, they're okay.

Speaker 4 (02:21:30):
In others, he's shooting the ball well, but he's not
shooting it nearly as often.

Speaker 2 (02:21:34):
Is he like thirty four? He's like thirty four, But
you got to say a number bigger than that to
be accurate. Is he thirty six? I mean, another guy
like Durant, don't do it. His contract is over after
this year, so you really better be careful with what you're.

Speaker 3 (02:21:51):
Getting old rental, right, and he's an old rental, yes,
And NBA, you know, thirty five is like fifty and
major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (02:22:01):
I mean, it's just this is why win the rock
and they will, they will. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:22:06):
I'm not saying this from any knowledge other than just
me looking at the situation and knowing the NBA the
way it is. The Rockets will pounce at some point.
They have to because they can't win at a high
level with what they've got. I know that could end
up being proven wrong, but I doubt it. They need
that guy, and when they do, go and get him,

(02:22:28):
whoever he is, it's not a thirty five year old rental.
It's not Kevin Durant on his last literal legs. It's
gotta be the right guy, especially because it's gonna hurt
a little bit with what you give up, and I
have my options of who I think will be going out.

Speaker 2 (02:22:46):
I'm not gonna say names.

Speaker 4 (02:22:47):
Well, it does depend a little bit on who comes in,
but odds are the player coming in probably plays two
or three or one, possibly one, because you know the name,
Dear Aaron Fox, seems like there's a possibility they will.
I honestly think they have a pretty good relationship, and
maybe it's just an understanding of you don't like where
we're headed, you don't like how long it's taking, You're

(02:23:09):
ready to move on, or whatever the case. Interesting then
that that means Rafel will be talking to a former
coworker to do it. With Monty McNair being the general
manager and runs basketball ops for the Kings, if that's
something that happens imminently, harder to fleece.

Speaker 2 (02:23:24):
I'm not. Are you looking to fleece them? Which would
he grow to fleece? You're landing Dearon Fox? Yeap, haven't
you won? Yeah? You know everybody that gets the best player.

Speaker 3 (02:23:38):
But it's how much goes out those picks that the
Suns should probably be trying to get back. By the way,
there's only one way that they can get them back. Yeah,
you send Devin Booker to Houston BINGO. And if that's
the case, I'm fine with it. I've been wanting him
for a long time. But is he the best fit
from what's going to be out there that you should
be after. Not the Jimmy Butler, not the Kevin Durants

(02:24:02):
I'm talking about. It's basically three names. If we're being
honest here, It's Dan Aaron Fox. Yeah, It's Devin Booker. Yeah,
and it's that badass that plays in Minnesota and doesn't
want to be there anymore. I man, if the Rockets
get him, I will fall out of my chair.

Speaker 4 (02:24:14):
That should make people excited. If those are real things,
and I'm not saying they're not. I actually think that
there's a real possibility that those one of those three,
I'd say it's likely they're not on the team they're
currently on, within the next before the start of the
next time.

Speaker 2 (02:24:27):
Don't you think he's the.

Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
Likeliest, which he Anthony Edwards, I mean, dearon Fox has
said all the right things, at.

Speaker 4 (02:24:36):
Least because they're the team of the three that made
the most recent franchise changing move that doesn't look like
it's working.

Speaker 3 (02:24:44):
Hey, we went to the conference finals. Hey, it's over
like that's what it looks like right now. And oh,
by the way, nobody wants to play with Rudy Gobert.

Speaker 4 (02:24:51):
Kings are in a bad conference to try to win,
and they're thirteen and seventeen. Wolves are two and a
half games better than them, fifteen and fourteen. Neither are
in the top six in the West, and the Sons
have the same record as the Wolves fifteen and fourteen.

Speaker 3 (02:25:05):
You have me to say the dirty, little not so
secret about a d'aron Fox acquisition that nobody wants to
talk about right now. All right, Fred van Vliet's going
out in that trade. How can you play both of them?

Speaker 4 (02:25:19):
Well, he doesn't have to, and I don't know what
they if they want him because he also essentially has
an expiring contract.

Speaker 3 (02:25:25):
Well yeah, I mean from a monetary standpoint, it helps
the deal. But yeah, if you're trading d'aron Fox, you're
starting over anyways. Probably sorry, demonis a bonus. But if
that happens, then that's that's a good thing. That's just
moving money around basically, because I doubt he and maybe Fred.

Speaker 4 (02:25:41):
Comes back here and we were talking about Minnesota with
that franchise, recent franchise altering move that didn't work.

Speaker 2 (02:25:48):
Do you think it's any different in Sacramento?

Speaker 4 (02:25:50):
They added Damar DeRozan to two All Star caliber players
and they've won thirteen times in thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (02:25:57):
Well, that's because DeMar Derozen likes to score a bunch
of points on teams that never do anything. He did
it in San Antonio, he did it in Toronto, and
now he's doing it in Sacramento.

Speaker 4 (02:26:05):
He did in Chicago when he wasn't trying to pick
fights with Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 2 (02:26:08):
Howd that go? It didn't go well? He got ejected
and he lost the game, didn't he? Yeah? I just
to me, And by the way, I will go ahead
and rank these, Okay. Anthony Edwards is a clear, far
and away number one.

Speaker 3 (02:26:21):
Everything about him is just I drool over that guy
on the Rockets roster with emy U Dook as his coach,
I mean amazing. And then I don't know, like they
do different things, they play different positions. I don't know
who I would where you slot ahead. I don't know
who you would put over the other when it comes
to Daron Fox and Devin Booker.

Speaker 4 (02:26:42):
Yeah, Daron Fox is probably gonna make that. He is
a huge, big time end of game finisher. He's exactly
what the Rockets, don't. They both do that in a
little Devin Booker is a lot less likely to create
something for somebody else. Daron Fox has is much more
capable of creating for somebody else. But if either one
of them is taking the final shot out, obviously I

(02:27:02):
think I would obviously prefer to be Booker. Bookers a
better shooter, better pure score, better at all those things
that put the ball in the basket. He's become a
much better all around player. Darren Fox is going to
help you defensively on the perimeter. He's going to be creative,
He's going to make the players around him better. And
I do think he has that clutch gene in him,

(02:27:22):
which just has not been on display a whole lot
while he's played in Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (02:27:27):
Much more so in recent years. By the way, the
age is negligible.

Speaker 3 (02:27:31):
Yeah, I mean, Darren Fox is twenty seven and Devin
Booker's twenty eight, right, and I don't know when their birthdays.

Speaker 4 (02:27:35):
Are, Like, you always think about where they're the next
contract will take him. You're fine with it the extension,
whatever it is through the next four or five years.
Bookers already on a super Max, right, Well, that would
be good that you have him for that time. Five
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Speaker 4 (02:28:48):
A few things to get to with in case you
missed it. I'll start with a couple of quick items.
In case you missed it over the holidays, there was
a five overtime Bowl game. Essentially that means two overtimes
and then three periods of shootouts.

Speaker 2 (02:29:02):
That's what it basically is.

Speaker 4 (02:29:04):
Now the Pittsburgh Toledo teams are trying to get those
teams to hold their beer, but they're stuck in the
fourth overtime. Twice Toledo has stopped Pittsburgh on their one
play which wins them the game, and the referees have
had to tell the teams get back to your sidelines.
The game actually isn't over. First time they stopped them,

(02:29:25):
they called a penalty. Second time they stopped him, it
got stopped shy of the goal line on a quarterback keeper.
But of course even though he was nowhere near the
end zone or closer than I thought, they got to
review it. So the game's not quite over yet. The
other item is related to the Texans and your streaming
provider from yesterday's NFL activity.

Speaker 2 (02:29:46):
Are the numbers out.

Speaker 4 (02:29:47):
They just literally in the last couple of minutes NFL
and Communications sent out their release. They will have more
additional US insights and global ratings coming on December thirty.

Speaker 2 (02:29:59):
First, here's what we know.

Speaker 4 (02:30:01):
They had an unduplicated audience of nearly sixty five million
US viewers Ravens Texans twenty four point three million average
minute audience, just slightly above the twenty four point one
of the Chiefs. Here's the huge surprise for you, AC
during the Texans game. You have any idea when the
US viewership Ravens Texans peaked any idea at all.

Speaker 3 (02:30:24):
Wasn't the first quarter, wasn't the seven quarter, Probably not
the third, and definitely not the fourth.

Speaker 2 (02:30:31):
Well, that's left. It's not pregame, it's not postgame.

Speaker 4 (02:30:33):
According to Nielsen, US viewership for Ravens Texans peaked with
the Beyonce Bawl with over twenty.

Speaker 2 (02:30:39):
Seven million viewers. It was the most competitive part of
the game.

Speaker 4 (02:30:42):
Another basically roughly a twelve percent increase in viewership during halftime,
which was longer and obviously very super Bowl ask in
terms of its production, which was awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:30:53):
Do you think that's why the NBA came out with
all these are I look at our numbers before so
that when the NFL numbers came out out and just
basically said, we would have dwarfed anything you do. I
mean that's why I tried to say earlier, they're not comps. Yeah,
they're gonna they're gonna dwarf your numbers.

Speaker 2 (02:31:10):
It's a matter of did you do what you could do,
did you improve upon last year's numbers, or do you
feel good about where they are. They're not gonna be
better than the NFL, So everybody knows that.

Speaker 3 (02:31:17):
What uh I'm trying to remember, Like, was there a
significant difference in the matchups last year versus this year?

Speaker 4 (02:31:25):
For them to be up that much, tell me what
you think about this year's matchups. So the two games
we had Chiefs, Steelers and Texans about the NBA, Oh,
the matchups are always the same. That's why they're always
really good with as many stars as they can get.
The last two games, probably from a TV standpoint, or
certainly the fourth game, the Lakers game, it's primetime Curry Lebron,
I mean, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:31:45):
Hard to beat that.

Speaker 3 (02:31:46):
No, Well, it goes back to what I was saying earlier.
I mean, yeah, there are sexier matchups in the NFL.
Because otherwise my entire segments where I belittle Thursday night
football scheduling would not be, you know, as awesome as.

Speaker 4 (02:31:58):
Are you locked in to Seahawks Bears tonight? No, it
means lots of Seattle. Great means something probably Chicago, who'd
like to avoid a ten game losing.

Speaker 2 (02:32:10):
Neither of those teams are doing anything for the next
likely three to five years. Seattle can make the playoffs still,
but they might lose anything. Yeah, that's what I mean.
All right, what else do we have?

Speaker 15 (02:32:19):
That's actually a segue to go with the story number
two that I had on my list with Lebron. I
don't know if you guys caught it at the end
of the game, a really good game between LA and
Golden State, where he said I love the NFL, repeating
himself how much he loves the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:32:34):
But today is our day. Well, we saw it.

Speaker 4 (02:32:37):
I don't know that our listeners heard us talking about it,
because it was earlier in the show we mentioned that.
I don't know that it would have become the story
it is today beyond people writing about ratings, but two prominent,
huge NBA stars chose their postgame interview Lebron, you just
mentioned was first and second game of the day with
or second game of the evening was Kevin Durant basically

(02:32:58):
saying something along those same lines, this is our day
is they've turned it into something which is good for them.
I don't think the NFL is gonna come back and
need to say anything. We're up here, you're down there.
You can do what you do and feel good about it.
We feel perfectly good about what we're doing. By the way,
in case you missed it, the reason why they reviewed
that play in the Toledo Pittsburgh game is because I
was totally wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:33:19):
They said he got in hello over time number five?
What else?

Speaker 13 (02:33:23):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:33:24):
So we've been talking about CJ. Stroud. Who's to blame?
Is it on him? Is it the terrible offensive line?
Is it the OC?

Speaker 15 (02:33:31):
It's pretty much all the above in terms of where
the Lion's share of the blame goes. According to Chris
Sims earlier today on PFT Live.

Speaker 10 (02:33:40):
The pass protection issues with the football team the league
has caught up the Bobby Slowick and what he does
on the offensive side of the ball. Physically, they can't
block up front. Schematically, it's messed up and doesn't work
the right way. They have not put CJ. Stroud in
a position, in my opinion, to really succeed. They put
him in a position this year a little too much

(02:34:01):
of like, hey, carry us because nobody's open and the
protection's not that good.

Speaker 2 (02:34:05):
So make a nice move and put the ball right
on the money. All right.

Speaker 15 (02:34:08):
So I guess my question to follow up on that
is what necessarily makes people believe things are going to
change if Bobby Slowe comes back next year.

Speaker 2 (02:34:16):
Well, I mean, look, anybody is going to have a
better offense.

Speaker 4 (02:34:21):
The only way it changes if Bobby Slowek is back
next year is if what Ac said finally happens.

Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
They get better personnel in front of CJ.

Speaker 4 (02:34:30):
And maybe, as his targets thought, they had a nice
group of personnel this year, certainly didn't help them be explosive.
Explosive when you couple that with their non successful offensive
line play. I mean, Bobby slow cauld probably run a
successful offense if his quarterback has Brady esque time to
throw or sitting back there scanning the field over. Eventually
you screenplay. Yeah, eventually some guys will get separation. I mean,

(02:34:52):
the personnel is a huge factor right now. He did
miss a bunch of throws that were CJ. Stroud makable
throws even under his mental duress from the season. But
he also has most of everybody, but Nico is not
a guy who gets separation.

Speaker 3 (02:35:08):
And now you also have to keep in mind, this
is just something that's completely floating under the radar that
needs to be thought about and will be You're starting
next season with Nico Collins.

Speaker 2 (02:35:18):
That's it. Stefan Diggs is not going to be here
and Tank Dell's not gonna be ready.

Speaker 4 (02:35:23):
So many have suggested, you know, Steph Diggs was back
with the team, at least from a profile standpoint.

Speaker 2 (02:35:29):
We could see him out there on the field, and
obviously the team put out a couple of social media
posts him talking to Nico and get excited before the game,
things like that.

Speaker 4 (02:35:35):
I know he's been around a little, but probably not
very much here lately. The fact of you're kind of
saying they don't have anybody do you think there that
does anything for his potential return?

Speaker 2 (02:35:47):
No, because unless you want to put that kind of
money in him, well, we know where he is in
his career from a year standpoint. Now we know what
he's also coming off of injury wise, or are you
cod what's the market draft a guy that's awesome and cheaper.

Speaker 4 (02:36:02):
Well, then you've used your one of your top picks
on a receiver and you're still wondering. Well, I know
we've made the top picks on lineman before, but it
actually needs to work.

Speaker 3 (02:36:12):
I don't know, like, what's their cap situation as it
pertains to And again I say this every time we
bring this up. If there's a good offensive line on
the team, lineman on the team, chances are they're not
letting them walk out the door.

Speaker 4 (02:36:24):
There are exceptions, but man, the real problem with the
offensive line, beyond the on field play is you have
two more contracted years with Tunsil. Although obviously there's a
way to get out from under the massive hit, it'll
be a big one. Tys Howard's got two more years.
He makes twenty three million and twenty five million.

Speaker 2 (02:36:42):
That's nauseating.

Speaker 4 (02:36:43):
Shaq Mason, he signed an extension. He's under contract for
two more years. Again, the how much they're due versus
how much your cap hit is it is clearly different
and less. That's three of your five offensive linemen that
they're gonna hurt you financially when they no longer hurt
you with their.

Speaker 2 (02:37:00):
That's why I think Nick Cassario's days are actually still numbered.

Speaker 4 (02:37:04):
You can have some bad offensive linemen that you didn't realize,
but when you know you have them and they've already
played for you and then you extend them, yeah, I'd
say it's on you.

Speaker 2 (02:37:13):
And that's what he's done with well two of them.
Larim's still good.

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Speaker 2 (02:38:40):
Super important information that I can't help but give to you.

Speaker 4 (02:38:42):
If I was going to give you updates on overtime
number four and five, I will do the same on
overtime number six. For the third time, Toledo thought they
won the game, but finally it was accurate. They stopped
Pittsburgh on their two point play in the sixth overtime,
the fourth overtime period that is nothing but two point
play opportunities, and they won the yet to be mentioned

(02:39:05):
a Bowl game. Since I haven't mentioned. I won't now either.
They won forty eight forty six.

Speaker 2 (02:39:09):
Georgia and Georgia Tech. Like can you even get the
seventh overtime? Even though this is a bowl game, there
was much more on the line in that regular season game.

Speaker 3 (02:39:18):
Well, and I wasn't looking right at the monitor the
way you were, But that was like fantastic television.

Speaker 2 (02:39:25):
It was pretty intereresting. It's hard not to be in
these situations.

Speaker 3 (02:39:28):
But that was just And here's the thing, who is
the who's the Georgia Georgia Tech head coach Brent Key
when he just threw his headset off after the last one, like,
all right, we're the ones that lost this, Like it
was just sough.

Speaker 2 (02:39:45):
It was tough. Yeah, gut punch.

Speaker 4 (02:39:47):
Bowl season in full swing. Bowl game here in Houston
is now just a handful of days away. The thirty first,
there will be five games. Baylor LSU is the Kinders
Texas Bowl. That's the two thirty kickoff. It's actually the
fourth kickoff of the day. Bama and Michigan go first
Louisville and Washington, South Carolina and Illinois, and then the

(02:40:09):
first of our quarterfinal playoff games. The night of the
thirty first, Penn State against Boise State. That is the
Fiesta Bowl in Arizona Wednesday. Just the three games, the
three playoff games, the other three quarterfinals. First game of
the day, UT and Arizona State. That's in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (02:40:28):
That is the Peach Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:40:29):
Ohio State and Oregon they're at the Rose Bowl. That's
the Rose Bowl. And Notre Dame and Georgia are playing
in New Orleans. That is the Sugar Bowl. It's each
of the four un balls. Each of the four winners
moves on to the semifinals. And yes, in fact, after
last week's opening first round games, the top eight seeds

(02:40:50):
remain in play. The bottom four seeds all lost and
none of them covered. How handily is UT gonna beat
air Well, it's the thing I noticed first and probably
haven't even mentioned here. Their opening game was played against
the team that was twelve seeded, so they were clearly
the last team in. You could make an argument that

(02:41:11):
Arizona State was the second to last team in. Could
have been the eleven seed. Maybe they would have been ten.
Not sure what the committee would lean on there because
I can't follow them very well, but they were at
home playing Clemson as a twelve and a half point favorite,
they won and advanced to play on a neutral field

(02:41:32):
against a higher seeded team. If nothing else, they were
definitely a higher seeded team because they weren't, they would
have been the twelve seed in Clemson, would have been four.

Speaker 2 (02:41:41):
And they're favored by more than they were a week ago.

Speaker 3 (02:41:46):
If Texas wins this game, what are the odds that
they're playing a Ryan daycoach Ohio State game or team that.

Speaker 2 (02:42:00):
Everybody, like nobody thought would be there.

Speaker 3 (02:42:02):
Obviously because they're they're they would have defeated Oregon, but
also just because of everything that's gone on with.

Speaker 2 (02:42:08):
Well with him, there's that side of it.

Speaker 4 (02:42:09):
But the ironic thing to me about all this is
the most jeopardy Oregon has been in all year of
losing was against the team they're playing.

Speaker 2 (02:42:20):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying it was a one point game.

Speaker 4 (02:42:22):
They Ohio State had the ball at the end, probably
enough time to kick the go ahead field goal as
time ran out, and their quarterback just ran a little
bit too much time off the clock before he slid
down and trying to get that last snap off. And
it was at Oregon and it was thirty two thirty one, Like,
this team is probably just as good as now as

(02:42:44):
they were then. I don't think there's anything of great
significance that's changed for either side. This is and that's
why many people saw the bracket come out and like, like,
Oregon's number one in the country. They're undefeated and their
treat is going to the roles Ball to play Ohio
State in their first game.

Speaker 2 (02:43:02):
They get the state draw Ohio State. That's why people
want a reseed.

Speaker 3 (02:43:06):
Yeah, but if you look at the like you're saying
that more just because of Ohio State, not necessarily because
of the other side of the bracket, because everybody.

Speaker 4 (02:43:13):
Think Ohio State is the worst team left. I know
they lost to Michigan, but I don't think people think
that they're probably not even the second worst team left,
maybe not even the third worst team left.

Speaker 2 (02:43:23):
And this is who the number one seed is getting.

Speaker 3 (02:43:25):
And this is why I think so many people also
said that when Texas got the fifth seed, that might
be the most enticing.

Speaker 2 (02:43:33):
Now they've got to take care of business here.

Speaker 4 (02:43:35):
Yeah, I looked at it as kind of where Penn State,
Boise State in SMU where they were sitting the brackets
come out, My first thought is guaranteed to be in
the final four, either Penn State, Boise State, or SMU
because they're in the same part of that bracket.

Speaker 2 (02:43:53):
That didn't seem right. But Boise State's the.

Speaker 4 (02:43:56):
Three seed and they were top ten in the country,
but they're not the third best team. One of those
three teams is guaranteed to make it, as I'm used
now out one of the other two will lose, the
other one's going to the final four one of the
last four teams standing. And all it takes for Boise
State to get there is won a neutral site game
in Arizona against Penn State.

Speaker 2 (02:44:12):
So what's more competitive Notre Dame Georgia or Ohio State Oregon.

Speaker 4 (02:44:16):
If I knew everything about Georgie's quarterback, and I don't
know everything after one half against Texas, I'd probably have
a better line on that. I think we did find
out a little bit about Notre Dame, even though respect
for Indiana is low. I think that's probably the best game.
I'm not sure that they're gonna fall prey to the upset.
I think George is going to win.

Speaker 3 (02:44:34):
And then the other question is after whomever comes out
of the Ohio State Oregon matchup? Are they just you know,
it's not I never think about it. Oh, it's mentally taxing,
there's too much time in between games. But you know,
is that a game where it's super physical or is
it just a track meet? I mean, just think about

(02:44:55):
it this way. What do you think the odds are
when we come back on the second and talk about
what happen. We're not talking about a significant injury to
somebody or somebody. I'm saying, because they're going into your
fifteenth game, your fourteenth game next week will either sixteenth
game or anybody point anybody else that is going to
win the national championship. Anybody is going to play at
least two more games after.

Speaker 4 (02:45:16):
This, So I think that might actually kind of determine
what we think about the semifinals once they're set.

Speaker 2 (02:45:21):
But if I'm picking a.

Speaker 4 (02:45:24):
Team to upset because of the quarterback situation, I probably
would pick Notre Dame, but Boise States the three seed
and not favored to win.

Speaker 2 (02:45:33):
So that's a good one too.

Speaker 3 (02:45:35):
Remember when the National Championship was determined like a few
hours after New Year's Day. Now it's the twentieth by
voters of this by computers, how about that.

Speaker 4 (02:45:46):
Yep, yeah, I again waste. We're several days out from
that Tuesday and Wednesday of next.

Speaker 3 (02:45:52):
Week, New Year's Day, twenty twenty five. Jeez, I can't
believe twenty twenty four. For there's much stuff that happened
in Houston sports. I think it has flown by faster
than any any year in recent memory. Maybe it's because, well,
I definitely know that the Rockets being good has helped,
because that was a brutal three ish year stretch. I

(02:46:16):
would say more brutal than the Texans. We already knew
they weren't being serious for a while there, and then
CJ kind of coming out of that as a franchise quarterback,
by the way, wex that that's.

Speaker 2 (02:46:28):
Kind of been a little bit better. It's just not
as many games when the Rockets were bad. It was
a lot of bad. Yeah. One thing to consider as
we get to the weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:46:35):
Saturday does have a three games slate on the NFL side,
and both the Chargers and the Broncos play. If they lose,
then the Texans are playing the AFC North wild card
team as the five seed.

Speaker 2 (02:46:50):
Which is going to be Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (02:46:53):
We won't know that for sure it's going to be
the week eighteens games, but it's likely Pittsburgh. It's gonna
be Pittsburgh, all right. Who's JJ waging a roof that day?

Speaker 2 (02:47:01):
Let's see is his brother?

Speaker 3 (02:47:04):
Yeah, I'm guessing not his old franchise. We've got Rockets Basketball.
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