Texans victorious in Indy, Rockets crush Jazz, Lane Kiffin to LSU

On the Monday edition of The A-Team, Adam Clanton and Adam Wexler react to the Texans' big win over the Colts, the Rockets' win in Utah, all the drama from the Lane Kiffin hiring, and much more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What in the world are we gonna talk about after
we've been gone since Wednesday. It's not like a whole
hell of a lot happened, or it was one of
the most electric holiday Thanksgiving weeks away from the microphone
that we have had in quite some time. Welcome back
into a Monday edition of the A Team. It is
Sports Talk seven ninety. It's Space City home network coming

(00:22):
up at the top of the hour. You'll be able
to gawk at us and stare at us as we
host this show.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We like being on that fish bowl.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
He's Wex, I'm Ac Josh Jordan along for the ride
as per usual, and there are about a billion different
topics we can get to, not the least of which
is your Houston Texans are trying to make Adam wexwill
look like a genius, just trying to plow through whatever
is in front of them on their way to a

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postseason berth and at this rate, maybe even another division championship.
This has all the makings of a classic Seattle marriage
leading the Al West in May and crowing about it,
just for the Astros to come from behind and kill
them scenario. It's not quite the same in football, obviously,

(01:10):
But man, when you play two times straight up and
you're able to take that first one on the road,
I e. The harder of the two to get, and
things are kind of going south for the Colts, while
things are looking up for the Texans from a health standpoint,
including during the game. That's a recipe for success. And

(01:31):
then I'm sorry, WEX This defense is unbelievable. I know
that it was Daniel Jones. I know he just all
of a sudden had this revealed fracture in his fibula
that was hampering him slash, giving him a built in
excuse for not playing well. I don't even think he
played that bad yesterday. But you bottled up Jonathan Taylor

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and you won because of that.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Did a good enough job against jt obviously, you kept
him from the big explosive runs, did not find the
end zone, and you got a victory. Didn't have to
do a whole lot to get it. They haven't had
to do a whole lot to get it offensively, That's
what I mean. And they did just enough to put
themselves in very very good position. One game separates three

(02:15):
teams in the AFC South. All that excellence, the Texans
have put together just put Jacksonville in first place.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, you said it last week.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And I think Gordy actually was taunting me via text
about this. He's like, what are you gonna How do
you feel about the AFC South leading Jacksonville Jaguars? And
how I feel is that it's probably gonna last all
of one week. I don't care if Sauce Gardner is
out for the rest of the year. I don't care
if Daniel Jones fractures his other fibula and has to

(02:47):
take a like a like a wheelchair onto the field.
The Colts are gonna beat Jacksonville next week in my opinion,
and then it just it's gonna be what the Texans do,
as it's been this whole time. They for all intents
and purposes. I know they don't completely control their destiny,
but they kind of do. I mean, if you want
to talk about division championship, that's one thing, But as

(03:09):
far as making the postseason, beat the Chiefs next week,
you're even looking better.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
And by the way, what's the line now?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
They do control their own destiny for the playoffs, right
if they went out there in.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'm talking about different difference between the division and playoffs.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
If they went out and the Colts and Jaguars split,
they win the division.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
So, like I said before, the Texans control their destiny,
Well they don't think.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
No, You're right, they do not control their destiny for
the division because they're behind the Jaguars and they don't
play each other, so they can't make the Jaguars lose
any more games. The Jaguars are the team that controls
their destiny in this division. They've got two games left
with the Colts, first of which is this week in Jacksonville.
They have two games that are a little easier than
most others, at least appearance on the schedule. Give a
little credit to the Jets for playing better football, but

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the Jaguars have games against the Jets and Titans still remaining,
and then a trip to Denver. They have three games
that are losable two other games you would expect a
team atop their division after thirteen weeks of football to
be able to win. We'll have to wait and see
if that's exactly how it plays on on their end.
But like I said, it just doesn't matter anymore for
the Texans. You know, the help that they needed, they've

(04:14):
taken care of their own business so often that they
have one more game against the team that's ahead of
them outside the division. The Chargers one more game against
the team that's ahead of them inside the division, and
that's the Colts. Both of those teams are one win
ahead of them. Now they'd have the tiebreaker over both
of them with just beating them head up. Obviously, you're

(04:36):
potentially ahead of both of them if you beat them,
because they've got all their other games to play and
your other games to play against the Cardinals, Raiders, and Chiefs.
So there are a lot of things that this team
has put themselves in a very good position to go get.
You'd certainly have loved to have won some of the
games earlier this year that did not go your way
in terms of close games. They've played nothing but close
games the last four games, and they've won all four

(04:58):
of them very much the same way they were trying
to tell us how we should have, could have might
have won these early games they did finish. We saw
this last year in Indianapolis, the exact same thing happened.
All you did is change twenty seven for twenty eight.
The Texans won their game last year in Indianapolis, because
they handed a ball to Joe Mixon at the end

(05:19):
of the game with the lead and never had to
give it back. One huge nine point one inch yard
run from Woody Marx got them the first down they needed.
They wanted to somehow still keep the drama together and say, well,
if we take as little time as possible on all
of these snaps, then we'll have to see if there's
a fraction of a second difference on the play clock
in the game. I mean, my gosh, j crazy, just

(05:42):
take ten more steps backwards and take a freaking knee.
It's not that hard to figure out. But they managed
to get it done. They never gave the Colts the
ball back after they took it from with their defense
with their fourth down stop with a four point lead.
With this which was a huge point of controversy, how
the Texans got there, how they got there on that
drive on one particular snap that resulted in two hey hey, hey,

(06:06):
wait a minutes, and then the ensuing extra point that
delivered another All being said, a lot of games in
the NFL that are impacted negatively for one team by
the officials and positively for the other, sometimes all in
the same game. It evens out sometimes over the course
of the season even out. Sometimes it doesn't even out
at all, and there's lots to complain about. And this
crew did not have a very good day in the

(06:29):
game yesterday with the Texans and the Colts. You could
probably watch any NFL game and think maybe it was there.
But when you have two teams that are playing for something,
and both the Colts and Texans fancy themselves as playing
into the postseason, it just looks like a whole lot
more is on the line. When you have two teams
that need the people that are paid to help them
play within the rules do their jobs well, and I

(06:51):
don't know that they did that yesterday. Nonetheless, Texans came
out with what they want to get, as they said it,
what did we come here for?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Came to get a win.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
They have another road game against the Chiefs this week,
then three of their final four are back at home.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's a big one this week.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I think the Texans are going to make the playoffs
regardless of what happens this week. But I don't want
to lessen the importance of what a win this week
on the road at Kansas City could do.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
What's the line, right, now four and a half. Haven't
even looked.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think they're four and a half dogs, is what
I saw. I just didn't know if it changed since
I saw that a few hours. Canna change it all
for probably at all. I'm gonna just get this out
of the way. Eight minutes into the week, Texans are
winning at Casey next week.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I really believe that too.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
The Chiefs are a very very different team, both from
every year Mahomes has been there to this year and
just this year when they based on where they play,
they're six and six. They're five and one at home.
They're an embarrassing one in five on the road. Right well,
the Texans aren't playing them outside of Kansas City. The
Kansas City Chiefs are still hard to beat in Kansas City.

(07:55):
The Texans winning this week on the road at Indianapolis,
where previously the Cold were undefeated. The Colts had massacred
teams with their offense at their home venue. Again, their
record was six and oh at home, but one of
those six home games was played in another stadium in
another country, so I don't really count that one. But
five and oh at home hadn't scored feward than twenty

(08:16):
nine points at any of those games. Hadn't scored fewer
than twenty points at any games period all year, and
the Sexans were able to basically cut that in half
and then deliver them the first time they had really
struggled to put the ball in the end zone. Put
points on the board, and that is the formula for
Texans victories. Make sure the other team doesn't score, and
maybe we can outscore them.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
This means nothing, seeing as how it's Monday and that
game will be played on Sunday. But my in laws
sent me this picture this morning. This is their suburban
Kansas City street where sure there's a bunch of white
snow there and there. Well, if you look up from
your microphone, you'd see I saw it.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I saw it.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's fine, so you was before you held it up.
It doesn't mean anything, because it's likely not going to
be the case. That would be fun. I think it.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Actually it means anything. Uh not on Monday.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh you don't think it's going to be snowing on Sunday?
For absolutely, of course it will be. I hope it
is a city in December. Well, I went to Kansas
City last December and there was no snow. It was
very cold.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Though.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
It is kind of random because if you're playing on
Sunday or every year we go playing on Friday, there
is snow. If you played two weeks ago, you're in
a snowstorm. But it will definitely impact how this game
is played if the weather is a factor, and we'll
see if it is. But this one yesterday was was
pretty vintage Texans grind it out offense maybe was a

(09:34):
little bit better in between the twenties. They still weren't
ideal in the red zone, but they did put two
touchdowns on the board with red zone success. The run
from Nick Chubb outside to the left, the run Tonico
Collins outside to the left. Figuring it out, Well, those
aren't going to work every time. Just quit running the

(09:54):
plays you know aren't going to work every time. And
for that's that's as simple as you can put it
on at how to have red zone success. This isn't
going to work, Okay, run something else?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
But you know what's funny about that particular play is
that the Texans were burned by a similar play call
that the Colts did.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Earlier in the game.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I believe it was before that, Yeah, it was before
that when Jonathan Taylor got out in space to the
left side and got like I think it was a
forty yard run or something like that.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I was up here watching the game since it was
during the Texans game or during the Rockings game yesterday,
and before the ball even left Jones hand, that was
a screen pass to his left to Taylor, the ultimate bubble.
I said to Josh, this is huge game coming like
he hadn't even let go of the football. I knew
no Texans were out there because they had single covered
the player. The only player lined up out there, so

(10:43):
obviously he's ran man coverage running with him, and then
they had a wide receiver and two linemen out in
front of him. As the TV crew said, they're just
looking for somebody to block.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
There's nobody there. Yeah, the Texans.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
It was just a great call against the look you
were getting, and coaches are usually pretty good at that,
but you know, out there in the middle of the
fields a whole lot different when you're inside the ten
yard line trying to figure out how to get those
last few yards. And credit also that the Texans didn't
let Nico's mistake ruin that drive.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Nico knew it.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
That's his reception should have been a touchdown, but he
stepped out of bounds at the four yard line and
set up first and goal from the four, which is Texas.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You're grown, You're like, oh no, he knew it too.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I'd rather than be like just inside than twenty then
be just outside the goal line at this point.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But they did score on the ensuing play and made
it a moot point.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
All right, there we we Obviously, I just kind of
wanted to hit on a number of topics in the open,
but as we do so often, we do on a
tangent about the one thing we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
We have a lot to get to. We're gonna get
to more.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
In fact, I want to get the quote unquote controversy
out of the way next segment, because it's it's laughable
the way Colts fans are acting like the refs stole
this game from them yesterday. And I mean not just
Colts fans, I'm talking about journalists in that area of
the country talking about this yesterday. We obviously need to

(12:05):
need to get to Lane Kiff and just taking a
blowtorch to all miss on his way out the door.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
And I'm not really even mad at him. About it,
because I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
And yeah, we will get to the Rockets, who haven't
lost since we departed last Wednesday from the show.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
We're still here on this mortal coil.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And of course the Horns humiliating the Aggies, and that
is what happened both during the game, just at the
very end of the game, and then we got a
little bit more from.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
The Aggies just after the game. All of that and
a whole lot more.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Plus, Hey, Chris Gordy's gonna stop by less than an
hour from now in studio on a December first edition
of the A Team. Oh yeah, we will dedicate that
that line right there to Colts fans. It is the
eighteen Sports Talk seven to ninety Monday edition of the program,
Victory Monday, as the Texans able to hold off the

(12:56):
Indianapolis Colts twenty to sixteen was the final. I find
myself wex and you don't because you're you. I find
myself forgetting what the score is so often, what was
it twenty three to nineteen against the Bills on Thursday?
Because it's like you said, it doesn't Ultimately I don't
remember the score because I just remember that they're gutting

(13:17):
out these wins. They're close, but it's just the score
just winds up being irrelevant. Although if you were to
say that about yesterday, and you were, say a sports
talk show host in Indianapolis this afternoon or this morning,
because I'm sure they've been crying about it all day,
any number of things that didn't go your way, I'm

(13:39):
not even saying seemingly they were absolutely jobbed on some
calls or non calls, if you will, And for every
single one of those, I could probably point to something
where they benefited h getting away with murder on this
play or that play, one of which was it was

(13:59):
a big game that Daniel Jones threw for where Will
Anderson Junior was being absolutely mauled by the right tackle
and it was not even close. It was right there.
It was in the replay, it was in the initial play.
You could see it clear as day. I mean, it's
just like it was like Karl Alone on Clyde Drexler

(14:19):
in nineteen ninety seven. For a modern reference, there was
no doubt about it. That's not why they lost that game.
The Colts did not lose this game yesterday because of
the officials.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Sorry, no, I don't disagree with that, but I do
think there's some differences. The play clock situation isn't like
everything else. Can you miss a holding? Should you miss it?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Did you? Yes?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Does it happen all the time? Absolutely? These are different.
Nfls should be embarrassed that it happens even once.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
How'd you like it?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
The officials, Yeah, the officials should have nothing to do
with it, just like Scott Foster, Tony Brothers, Josh Tivin
and everybody else in the NBA has nothing to do
with shot clock violations.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
It's a clock. Hard is this? Have you ever heard
of technology this? Let's go ahead and use it.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
The clock reaches zero, a buzzer goes off, a light
goes off, your buzzer goes off. There's a billion ways
to do this. There should be no stupid ass mechanism. Well,
the official in charge of that then sees the clock
hit zero, and then he looks down to see where
the ball is and looks at the quarter.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Wake up. It's twenty twenty five. We could have done
this twenty five, maybe fifty years ago. I can't believe
this league is living in the dark ages in such
simple obvious ways. I don't care about the kick, whether
it went over or not, as much as I care
about this. I don't care about the holdings, the defensive
pass interference, the offensive pass interference, the face mask calls

(15:47):
as much as this.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
This is so freaking easy.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
This is so stupid that they let this stuff happen,
and they just don't seem to know that what they're
doing is wrong. That wasn't a tick, That wasn't an
extra beat, that was clear as day. The clocks at zero,
It hasn't been snapped. The clocks at zero, it's a
half second later, it still hasn't been snapped. It's a
full second later. Then put forty one seconds on the
play clock. If this is how you're going to do it,

(16:11):
it lestupid. Yeah, it could benefit anybody because it's a
stupid rule that this is how they want to legislate it.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Where the Texans took advantage of it.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Were you yesterday, years old when you knew that that's
how they did it.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
No, They've been.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Doing this for such a long time. That's why I'm
so mad today. This is so easy to fix. They
just keep letting it happen.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, JJ is describing it on the broadcast, and I
was like, I've seen a million different Oh that was close.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh we got it under the gun plays.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I've never Actually, maybe it's because I just never had
taken the time to go look up the rule.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I never knew that that.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
As you said it, dark age is archaic, prehistoric. Any
number of this is old school and inefficient and embarrassing
ways to do this type of thing in today's technology
driven game. Yeah, you mean to tell me that we
can have a virtual measurement, which, by the way, the
Texans got that first down.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
On the third down attempt.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
They didn't get it on the fourth down attempt, admittedly,
but that's because that was poorly spotted as well. And
then after all of that, I'm told that, and I
knew this going in, but I'm reminded. I guess I
should say that the virtual measurement is only to see
if where the human poorly spotted the ball gave them

(17:26):
a four first down. It doesn't actually measure the play,
which to in my opinion, is a complete waste of time.
Is what's the point of even having this if all
it does is correctly show you that the very officials
were killing right now are bad at their job in
that area. But you're telling me that that's how they
do this. Well, he looks down, and then he looks up,

(17:47):
and then he checks his watch, and then he makes
a sandwich. And if the ball hasn't been snapped, to me,
it' start a delay.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
The actual wording from the official who was granting the
pool report questions the back judge is the call official,
and there's a process on that. When the clock hits zero,
he looks down to the ball, and if the ball
is snapped as he looks down from the clock to
the ball, we leave that alone. That's what he ruled
on that play. So every part of his answer sucks.

(18:13):
It's accurate because that's that's how they ruled it during
the gameplay. But the ball wasn't snapped as he looked
down from the clock unless he was operating in slow
motion as a human being in real time, which people
don't do that. He sees the clock hit zero, he
looks down, the ball is still there. Ball was not snapped,
as any human could have looked from one place to

(18:34):
the other. Your eyes are fast, even at the advanced
age that some of these officials are at, so that
is a lie.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
That's definitely not what happened.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
They just granted the Texans, come on, we don't want
to call this, and then the process for it is
also stupid. When the clock hits zero, we throw the flag.
That is supposed to be your answer when I understand
you can't look in two places at once unless we
have an extremely capable cross eyede official. I guess that

(19:03):
is able to look in two places at once. But
that's the whole point of what I said initially.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
So don't make them have to do something that you
physically can't do.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
They have the means to put it. Just put a
buzzer on it. They don't have to look at the
clock anymore. They can just look right down at the
ball when they hear the buzzer and the ball still
there is over when the light clock lights up.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
There's any number of things you can do.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Again, I don't expect you to change it because they've
had this issue in place for a long long time.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
That was question number one.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Second question was of the pass interference that happened on
that very play that was called on the Colts that
extended a drive on a long thurn down and distance
situation which should have been longer thurn down in distance
or could have just simply been an incomplete pass. And
then obviously the extra point that followed on the drive
that landed the Texans all the way in the end
zone was the extra point in question that went way

(19:54):
up above the uprights, to the point that you're asking
this person stand on the ground to look up many
many feet and determine if the entire football was within
the outside edge of the upright, and if that's how
they deemed it with their awesome vision, then it is
an accurate kick, and you give them the points, and

(20:16):
it is not reviewable. Not that I saw an angle
that suggests they missed it. It just looks like it
was an impossible call to make. So whatever they say
on the field is obviously going to stick because it's
not reviewable. But I am against the people that say
he obviously missed it, even though I'm not totally with
the people that say he obviously made it. It's almost

(20:37):
impossible to tell, and no camera angles that I've seen
show you otherwise, and you would have to mix two
camera angles honestly to get a real view of it,
which they should probably be doing because this also happens
quite frequently on kicks of certain distances. Well, kickers kick
it through the uprights and above the uprights, so you

(20:59):
might need extra technology there too.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, the technology and the bragging about the amount of
technology we have makes it worse when you don't use
it correctly, or you use it in areas that don't
really benefit anybody in any like. The whole virtual measurement
thing is just dumb to me. It's a premise of it.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Yeah, I've had a couple of conversations with different people.
It doesn't change any Doing all the college games that
I've done this year and then obviously all the NFL games,
I just can't believe how nobody cares. The coaches are
so beaten down by it, they just let it go too.
Both teams were jobbed on spots in this game.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
And crucial these.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
If you get a nine yard gain on the first
play of the game and they give you the first
down or a ten yard gain and they only give
you nine on the first play of the fifty nine
that'll come after it, nobody's really gonna probably want to
challenge that. But when it's third and one in the
fourth quarter or a third and one in a close
game in the second half and they don't spot the
ball even remotely close. So I'm not telling you it's easy.

(22:01):
It isn't, but gosh, they missed by so much sometimes,
and the coaches are like, what's the point? I can
challenge it? And then I just will lose a time
out and a challenge because I'm going to lose because
there won't be anyone upstairs that says, no, they missed it.
I'm gonna blame them. It's just a really bad situation.
And you just hope there aren't too many of an
any one given game.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
All Right, we are going to take a break from
complaining about this to hearing one player complain about another
player who keeps getting complained about consecutive weeks. Did you
follow all of that? That's Best of X Today. On
a Monday edition of the program.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Did you all see this?

Speaker 5 (22:42):
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Speaker 2 (22:45):
Posts a day. Four hundred people were arrested for things,
so they said on social media.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
History repeats itself type bang, you will succeed. Never doubt
that you're the one who person No one nothing's gonna
ever top you know you're the best post an every
single day. You're the best, the best breaking the entire internet,

(23:20):
all right.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Any number of things would have been a qualifier here,
and we're certainly not limited to just one. I mean,
Ole Miss fans are feeding families right now with their
reaction to the lane Ki Kiffin situation, for example. But
I saw this and it struck me as funny in
a way because this is a second consecutive week where

(23:43):
forty nine Ers receiver Juwan Jennings has been at the
heart of something not necessarily I don't want to say
it's not football related, but it was definitely extra curricular
in the context of a game, and it wasn't good
and it wasn't a good look for him.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
He got into it last week during the Carolina Panthers
matchup and got, admittedly in a funny way, struck across
the face as he wore his helmet.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
That's always funny to me.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
But this week he delivered that punch. Oh, he's the
one that delivered after absorbed the one to the package area.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yes, that's right. I got my cause and effect mixed
up there, and the package punch was the initial punch,
but it was because of things he was saying apparently,
I guess, well, that's what I was told.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Was that what the player in question said? Yeah, that's
what I read somewhere. Oh, people were saying this, okay,
but I can tell you this, it was a whole
lot more universal. I guess in reaction to the way
he was conducting himself apparently in yesterday's game between the
forty nine ers and the Browns, because when a player

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was being carted off, he apparently had some nasty things
to say.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean, and look, we've all seen this. We've both
been there at the stadium when this happens. Unfortunately, it's
like the last thing I would think to do if
I were any type of member of the organization. I
mean players obviously, but like sideline personnel, coaching staff, anybody,
What even would compel you to trash talk as a

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player is being carted off the field. I'm seriously asking, like,
what do you what could have gone on in that
game that, at that moment specifically you would think that'd be.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Okay, it's a great question.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well, I don't think Shelby Harris has the answer, because
he wasn't having it. He went off on a postgame
locker room tangent about Juwan Jennings apparently trash talking or
whatever he was saying about player in question the team
what have you? Shelby Harris did not like how Juwan
Jennings was conducting himself, and he had no problem popping

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off about it afterward.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
He's a whole and I want that known. Like, I
see why he got punching the nuts, because that's like
he says some things that you should not say to
another man, ever, But like, I don't respect it because
you say that I didn't run behind your own line.
That's some real soft and I want that known. I
see exactly why they punched the nuts. I'm surprised nobody
punched them.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
In the jaw yet he's a who Can I ask
you a question? WEX, I need your professional opinion on this.
Why is hoe the word of the weekend? It's going
around football.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Ho housewife HO? I thought you man, I would.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
I am curious what is it that you're not supposed
to say to a man ever in this instance, because
there's probably quite a few things that I think many
people would think that qualify kind of feel like, especially
after we've heard so much of it, like you're talking
about all these games like I can't hear anything from
where I am. You couldn't even hear anything if you're
on the sidelines. You can hear things at an NBA game,

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very very clear. Oh yeah, And the rich people that
like NBA basketball here at all the time because they're
sitting on the floor. They're sitting right next to the coaches,
the players, the officials, the scorers table. They hear everything
and it's to me, way out of line all the
time from certain players.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Maybe Kevin Garnett's at the top of the list, one
of the all time greatest players who just couldn't play
basketball with.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
His mouth closed part of who he is.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Most people just kind of went about their business and
let them say what he wanted to say and didn't
let it impact the way that they played the game.
He was also very very good, so there's only so
much you could do his team or he was usually
getting the upper hand. This situation obviously very very different.
You're on the football field. We saw, you know, Cam
Hayward kind of explode during the game yesterday when he

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felt like, you know, Josh Allen had intentionally put his
knee in his chest on his way up, and you
see Shelby Harris reacting this way after the game and
he says, I'm surprised somebody hasn't punched him in the jaw,
but that's probably because most people are like Shelby, It's
only going to hurt the team, maybe my hand too.
And I think he may have realized, as you described
the incident from a week ago as why people don't

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punch him in the jaw, it's wearing a helmet.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
The punch to the package actually hurt him.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
You could see that a punch to the helmet doesn't
do anything to the other person. It does something to
your hand or wrisk most often, especially if you have
a closed punch. The social media angle that grabbed onto
this was the people that grabbed onto Shelby Harris's Instagram,
which is just littered in the comments section with you
pick the wrong fan base to mess with NonStop Juwan

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Jenny gifts all over his comments, Juwan hurt your fee wings,
oh buddy, and his feelings messed with the wrong fan base.
Just a never ending supply of zestiness from Niner fans
who are blindly backing the guy that wears their costume.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Well that's what happens though. I mean, he's your jerk,
he's your a hole as people would say.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
So you say, San Francisco, I don't know where Shelby's
going to continue playing his football in the future. And
same thing for Jennings should he end up elsewhere. But
the belt on the same thing. Blood between San Francisco
and Cleveland after this game will not last.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, it's it's a nothing burger as some would call it.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
And you know, the guy who's all ticked off has
played for the team that scored a touchdown on a
two point conversion and that was it for the day.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's not a victory. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
By the way, Shudur Sanders was a little maudy afterwards
as well.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
It's just I think he didn't understand the nature of
the question because he immediately turned defensive in backing his
head coach, and I don't think that's what the reporter
intended from the angle he was taking. He asked Shrudeur's
a question about did he like the aggressiveness of coach
Tofanski with these play calls here? And Shuduur was hearing

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do you agree with his play call? So he immediately
went to I'm not going to come up here and
tell you that my coach needs to fix his play
calling and he was wrong to call this, or no,
I didn't really think we should do that.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And it's just.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Really liked what he was trying to say, right, But
he think got for his coach, that's all he was
trying to do. The question of people think are keeping
him down? Yeah, I ironically.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
If you watched any of the Browns games this year
where Gabriel played, and if you've watched the two games
where Sanders has played, and you think Gabriel gives them
a better chance to win, which isn't very high because
Cleveland stinks, but if you think it's higher when the
guy they picked sooner plays, and maybe it changes somewhere
down the road a couple of years from now, but
Gabriel does not get it, would not give any NFL

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team a chance to win the way he plays football.
And it's so easy to see for anybody that could
have missed it. Well, now you have two Sanders games,
not great games. He hasn't played well in either game,
and you can still see how there's actually an opportunity
for them to put points on the board here and
there to drive the football here and there, because they're
not being hamstrung quite as much by one of their

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two underdeveloped, not ready to play in the NFL quarterbacks.
But that's a Cleveland issue that only matters to the Texans.
And can the Browns accumulate more wins than the Commanders
and the Giants, both of whom stink, both of whom
are sitting near the top of the second round, and
both of whom owe the Texans a draft pick in

(31:23):
the twenty twenty six draft. Oh, Aaron Glennz hooking up
the Texans got the Jets a third win yesterday. That
keeps the Giants ahead of them in the draft order.
If the Patriots go ahead and beat the Giants tonight,
same thing. That will be helpful. If the Browns could
win a few more games and keep some distance from
the Commanders, who found a way to play well in

(31:45):
defeat last night and Sunday Night football, those are good
things for Houston.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Absolutely. You know what else is a good thing for Houston,
Kevin Durant. He returned yesterday winless without him, But whatever,
Rockets going for this sweep in Utah and on their
four game Roady tonight we will discuss especially since we
haven't been able to talk about them since that awesome

(32:10):
Thanksgiving Eve win against you know who.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
We will get to all of it next.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
We are winding down the first hour of four here
on the A Team Sports Talk seven ninety. It's a
Monday edition of the program. Quick break from all of
the football Shenanigans to give our flowers, so to speak,
to the Houston Rockets now smashing the Jazz yesterday, like
I fully expect them to do tonight, although I don't

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know if they're going to be able to do it
the same way they did yesterday since Steven Adams won't
be available.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Tonight, won't be resting either, so oh that changes everything.
Actually rested yesterday so they could unleash the beast tonight.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
They might only win by twenty.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
They are relying on two players to do almost everything offensively,
and the Texans or the Rockets probably caught a break
that Kyante George was definitely not feeling very good yesterday,
played anyway, and he averages twenty four points a game.
The Texans held the Rockets held him twenty four points
under his average of twenty four. I have the version
of the Texans eight turnovers. Thompson, I don't even know

(33:22):
that it was them. I mean, he was dribbling the
ball to Houston like they weren't knocking him away. He
shouldn't do this, just not holding on to his own
He just like I said, he only ended up. They
think they realized it early enough in the second half,
saying this is silly. He's he's not himself today. We
need to take him out. The game was pretty much
over by then.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Rockets took advantage maybe four or five minutes into the game,
went back and forth for about four minutes, and then
that was that. They kept making shots, the Jazz stopped
making shots. They advanced their lead into the thirties, and
then even still. I couldn't help myself at the end
of the game last night during postgame show, I wish
NBA team games would stop what they do at the

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end of games.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I really do.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Which part the part where the team that is good
at basketball decides to stop playing basketball and that's the
only way they can keep from the other team who
sucks at basketball from fighting them. But then the team
that sucks at basketball keeps playing basketball at the end
of the game, even though the team that's good at
basketball has already given up and said you can have
a turnover from us.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I hate that, absolutely hate it.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I thought, And again, that's funny too. I thought you
were going to point to the fact that they hit
a meaningless three to get it under the thirty point margin.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Well, that's all part of it. I don't really care
what the number is. I was looking to see. What
was this the Rocket's largest victory of the season. Well
it would have been. I assume the Rockets would play
defense at the end, but they didn't care too. That's
on them. I don't understand why you take turnovers at
the end of games anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I really don't. We're beyond that.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
If the other team wants to get mad about it,
then tell them to play basketball. That's what the other
team did for so you want them to take that
shot instead of let the clock that. I would never
ever ever take a shot clock violation. Are you supposed
to do it because you're winning the other team? I
think because the other team goes the other ways an
offensive set and shoots the ball.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I think it was because of how much they were winning.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
What I know why I'm not questioning you asked. No,
I'm not asking I'm asking why people think they should
do that. That's stupid. It's total nonsense. I could have
sworn you asked why it happens. No, I'm asking why
teams think they should do it. I know why it
happened because it's so dumb. It's fine in a thirty
point game. I'm not gonna get upset about it.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I would get upset about it in a ten point game.
In a ten point game, it's sort of in question. No,
it isn't. There's not ten possessions left. There's up five
possessions left.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
There's team Tracey McGrady scored thirteen points in thirty three seconds.
The game could actually be one in that scenario. I mean,
the point is as simple as it is. There's no
need to go on and on about I Just if
I were in the NBA and I coached the team,
I would never tell my players to take unnecessary I
would never tell them to do that.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I'm not looking for a fight. I'm looking to prove
to the other teams that they're in the wrong. They've
always been in the wrong, they'll continue to be in
the wrong. Damian Lillard and others.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Be damned.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
They're stupid. It's idiotic, and it's moronics. So anyway, they're
not embarrassing you by playing basketball.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
By JD.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Davison taking a shot in this five only five games
he gets to play all year, it's nonsense.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
You might get to play more the way things are going.
Here's the deal. That's all well and good. I expected
that to happen yesterday. I expect it to happen again tonight.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I mean, look, maybe Conte George busts out thirty again
like he did last year in a win over the Rockets.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
That was embarrassing. That's embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
But the win in between, notwithstanding which again I didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Let's just get back to Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
That was.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So impressive from the standpoint of they just didn't look
like they had it most of the night, and Josh
and I were up here at the station.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I'm already mad because it's the night.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Before Thanksgiving and the Rockets are gonna somehow find a
way to lose to the Warriors again, and we're all
gonna be up here past midnight to have to watch
it all go down. And then they did a funny
thing Reed Sheppard took over, and I do think that,
like Wednesday night was proof of what I lost my

(37:24):
you know what over when you brought that John Hollinger
list to the program, which you knew what you were doing.
You were needling me via him because it was so ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I mean, granted, you're gonna get more upset over that
than I am, but it's we'd feel the same way,
like I can't believe anybody that covers the NBA, that
that follows the league, that understands how the regular season works,
would ever fall for it. And I reread all that
stuff over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I pulled on article.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
There were two we had referenced, two different articles, one
from him and one from ESPN on simulating the season,
and I went back and read some of the stuff
about it and why they thought this, Like how could
you look at Golden State's roster, recognize how much they've accomplished,
how they know what it takes to accomplish those things
in the postseason, and think they would give one you
know what about winning regular season basketball games. They had

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them finishing first in the West, They had them losing
less than twenty games, which means they think a all
their one hundred thousand year old players are gonna stay
healthy and go out there and play hard every night
all season long. Like end of discuss, we don't need
to move on.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
You just clearly don't get it, and yet you're missing
the NBA completely.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
It's literally impossible for that to havepen I know rage
bait when I see it. That wasn't it. They were
seriously thinking that the Golden State, and I know why
they were thinking this, even though it's seriously flawed. They
were thinking, well, a full season of Jimmy Butler and
Steph Curry translates to this, Well, yeah, that's a really
nice little scenario if this is like five or ten

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years ago when they were both in their prime and
not pushing forty.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
But it's the same thing to me that this is
why you can't take their half season and say it's
going to happen for a full season. Jimmy didn't play
last year until he cut to your team, and then
he played most of the rest of the season in
the playoffs, and he was also hurt in the playoffs.
He returned, then Steph Curry got hurt in the playoffs
and didn't return, Like everything was there for you not

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to fall for this, right and you still did.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
And I'm but again, this has far less to do
with that and all those Shenigans than it does with reach.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Shepard was like, I'm not letting you guys lose tonight.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, fifteen in the first half, sixteen in the second half.
He was strong all the way throughout. They did play
Golden State basketball at the beginning. The Rockets took shot
thirty nine threes in that game, and they were shooting
them like they were going out of style in the
first few minutes. That's their second highest total of the
entire season. I know they're really good at it. They're
second in the league not that night, but they're not

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doing it that way.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Their take.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
The reason why they're shooting percentage is so high from
three point land is because they're extremely selective. They're last
in the NBA in attempts, thirty nine of them in
a game, not really their style of play. They were
down double figures much of the first half. They were
down fourteen in the third quarter before Reid for sure
was at the forefront of the comeback, which happened rapidly. Yeah,

(40:16):
in the third quarter, Well, he was just and he
was awesome again yesterday. Defensively, we have four blocks. I
don't know who decides whether they're blocks or steals anymore.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I'm gonna give him four blocks. I might give him five.
He was awesome, He's he keeps. It looks like he's
developing with each passing game now as opposed to like,
you know, time over overhaul. But yeah, it's fun to
see him learning on the fly and it not having
to hamper the success of the thirteen and four Rockets.

(40:46):
Chris Gordy's gonna come in and talk about the success
of LSU and other sec things when we start the
three o'clock hour. Next it is the A Team Monday
edition of the program. First show of December, Wow, twenty
twenty five flying by him. Before you know it, it'll
be postseason time and the Texans will be in the
playoffs and they'll be you know, going deep, and the

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Rockets will be right around the corner with their play.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Is going to be absolutely spectacular, especially if you are
an LSU Tiger fan. Now not so much maybe if
you're an Ole miss fan. But the first second, tenth
twentieth person I thought of when I saw that Lane
Kiffin was getting booed out of the airport literally yesterday
on his way to Baton Rouge, Like, Kraig Gordy, are

(41:34):
you like I'm trying to think of the analogy I
want to use. Are you like, absolutely the cats me
out right now with everything going on with your school.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
I mean, I don't know why the ole Miss people
are being so ungrateful and just for our guy. I mean,
he was the most winningest coach they've ever had there
and they run him out of town on the way out.
I mean, guy was trying to finish the season there
when you a national championship, but you ran him out
of town. So no, I think the bottom line is
Link left for a better job. I think we can
all agree that and how it happened. People are blaming

(42:05):
the schedule. The schedule in college football does not help,
But the schedule is not why Lane Kiffin is not coaching.
Lane Kivn is not coaching his team because they said
you're leaving for arrival, get the hell out of here.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Well, before we get to any of the actual nitty
gritty of the football side of things, let's just start
right there. This you want to blame something if you're
O miss or whatever. This is how college football is
set up. This is how it is. Well, everyone else's
contract has to be honored in every other sport, Well
there for this one.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
The problem is we're stuck to that. Oh the darn
student calendar. You know, they're the school calendar. These student athletes.
We still have to act like it's about school and
class work and all that. But yeah, we have semesters.
There's the fall semester and there's the spring semester. Because
we've expanded the college football playoff, playoff games now go
it well into the spring semester. And that's where things

(42:58):
get really sticky. When you talk about transfer portal and
guys wanting to move schools and all this. Guys want
to lead jobs, head coaching jobs before the season is over.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It doesn't allow for that.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
So why can't they do something similar to the NFL.
The NFL season ends, fourteen teams advance, right, eighteen teams don't.
Most of them are the teams that are considering a
head coaching change, and the next day there's five firings. Okay,
you can talk to these coaches that are in the
playoffs during this period of time, and you can talk
to these coaches, you can hire somebody here, and you

(43:30):
can do this there. The college football season ended for
a bunch of programs Saturday, but a lot of other
teams and it's a much bigger number, which is probably
one of the answers because of bowl games which are
a month away, because of the playoffs, which as of
today are about eighteen or nineteen days away. Like, is
that just the simple answer that it doesn't even matter
when we push this back, or you can't talk to coaches,

(43:52):
you can't hire anybody, even though we know it would
happen anyway. But can they put any safeguards in like this,
which they still have never done.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well, it's it becomes really difficult.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Like LSU was doing everything what they thought stealth stealthfully
like they and they even gave Lane, they said, look,
we'll wait till January whenever your season ends, to talk
about you coming over here. It's just it started to
leak out and Old Miss started to say, well, we
heard rumors that you're leaving and you're either going to
sign a long term extension here or you're not coaching well.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
It's like I said, well, it's bigger than Lane because
Lane actually puts ole Miss in a worse position today
because five other coaching jobs had already been filled before
he even opened the ole Miss job. They can't hire
James Franklin, they can't hire any of these stepping stone coaches,
some raw and all the others that are new to
the Golish.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
All the new SEC hirings have already happened.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Because you're allowed to do whatever you want, whenever you
want in college football.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
Well, the big problem is this, The reason we had
this big conundrum of coaches all hired yesterday is because
Wednesday's Early signing Day. Now we call it early signing Day,
but it's really ninety eight percent of your signing class
is going to be signed dot line. We went from
it used to be in the first week of February
to now it's first week at December. So I think
that's the first fix. I think we need to go
back to National Signing Day beuting in February. We get

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too many kids leaving high school early to go get
an early head start a jump on their college career,
and a lot of these kids aren't playing their freshman year.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
A lot of them are still, hey, glad.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
You got the campus in January, You're still gonna sit
your butt on the bench all year like. So, I
just feel like we got to go back to pushing
that signing day back to February. Let's get these December
high school. It's a distraction everybody. You got Kaitlin Debor
and Kirby Smart prepared for an SEC championship game this weekend,
and yet they're also having to sign their recruiting class
and worry about calling recruits and all this that is

(45:40):
the first step of getting this fix. Then I think
we pushed the portal back again. I don't know how
you do it because January is when you start spring classes,
So you know, do we push it just back to May.
I know Reyese Davis threw that out there, but clearly
something has to change on that front.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
But going back to the original point, why is it
the college football coaches are the only ones whose contracts
just don't matter at all? He mentioned the NFL scenario,
and it's the reason that that is in place. First
of all, the coaches are available because they got fired,
not because they're leaving on their own accord. Whenever they want,

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and it's the only place where like all these coaches
that are under contract, you have to if you're going
to try and poach one, so to speak, that's not
available because they've been fired obviously, But if they say
they wanted to leave, like it's you know, there's a
massive buyout.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
I mean, the buyout is supposed to be the deterrent,
but schools are. That doesn't mean if you're not living
up to the expectation, we'll pay the buyout. If you are,
we're trying to steal you away from another school and
there's a buyout, we'll pay that buyout for you.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
So feeling of coaches is just totally normal. Like all
these coaches that just got hired, other than Franklin, they
were stolen, They were under contract, they had a job there.
Most of them are still doing their job in the NFL.
That'd be like going to the Falcons and saying, well,
we're gonna we want Morris is our new head coach.
I know there's five games left in the season. We're
gonna start negotiating with him, even though you guys are

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still playing in your seat.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
That's what happens. See how insane that sounds.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
You say it out loud, it sounds utterly ridiculous. It
was two totally different sports. The football itself curious. The
SEC is obviously we knew they would be at the
center of everything going on from a playoff standpoint. You
mentioned the conference title game featuring a couple of the
one loss teams. There are a couple of other one
loss teams that obviously aren't there. Texas A and M
not there with their loss to Texas ole Miss. I

(47:31):
don't think we've seen this before. I'm not one that's
comparing it to the Jordan Davis not there with Florida State,
which many other people are how the committee will see it,
but just the football with these two teams. First, we'll
try to segment our conversation. Ole Miss is headed where
in the immediate two to three year future.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
LSU is headed. Where in the immediate two to three
year future.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
I mean, you can, you can hate Lankiff and all
you want, call him a dirt bag and all that.
Bottom lineus, he's a good football coach and he's gonna
win games. So he has had to go the portal
route in at ole Miss the last five years because
it's hard to recruit to Oxford, Mississippi. Not a lot
of kids are flocking there. He's had top five portal
classes the last four years straight. He will now have

(48:12):
top ten recruiting classes at LSU to combine with that,
and that's a dangerous combo because you're just giving lank
given more talent to work with. The number one commit
in the country is was on campus yesterday reaffirming his commitment.
Lamar Brown to LSU. I think it's kind of scary.
I think football on the football field LSU is gonna
be arrow pointed upward.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Will they make the playoff? I mean expectations make the
playoff when they win a championship. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
We'll see. For ole Miss, it certainly feels like they settled. Hey, no,
we're not gonna this thing's not gonna crumble around us.
Defensive corner Peak GOLDI you're the head coach, okay, is
he qualified and first time head coach. This is how
we're gonna do it. I will say that Notre Dame
did the exact same thing with Marcus Freeman and it's
worked out so far for them, So we'll see if
it works out for ole Miss.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
I'm not sure that Ole Miss can lose two games
to open up the year, then play noble the rest
of the year and make the playoff like Notre Dame
is about to do so to the playoffs. Oh my gosh,
we have a lot of Texas is one of the
teams that is gonna be very, very upset with the
end announcement, which doesn't come Tuesday. Tomorrow night, there's unannouncement,
and then we have conference title games and then we'll
start to see things crystallize a little bit. But what's

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happening with the ACC and the fact that the best
team in the aac C isn't even in the conference
title game? I COO, do you really believe isn't going
to get into the playoff and should be most mad
about it when they don't.

Speaker 6 (49:30):
I think you're gonna have a lot of those ten
and two teams like the Miamis. We'll see what happens
with BYU and a few of these other schools, but
likes that, like Hodgepodge, of those ten and two teams
that are all like right there, I think Vanderbilt. I mean, look,
it'd be a hell of a story to see Diego
pave Get in there. But you look at Vanderbilt's resume
and I just don't think they have enough on it.
So look, if I'm in that committee room, I keep saying,

(49:53):
there's got to be discussions. I get if people look
at the nine and three record at Texas and they're
gonna go end three losses, you're out. Why can we
talk about the wins? We jump to the losses immediately?
What about the wins? They have more resume wins than
anybody else being talked about on that in the playoff
running and so to your point, like Notre Dame, who
have you beaten nobody? But we just see, oh, Notre Dame.
They're gonna get his TV ratings. Let's put them in there.

(50:15):
I do think the arch thing helps. If I'm in
that committee roo, I'm gonna go guys, it's about TV ratings, right,
Like we want people and eyeballs to watch.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Would more be able to.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
Be watching SMU or more people watch arch manor point?
I think that's part of the conversation. Unfortunately, they don't
do that. They go, eleven is more than ten. It's math,
let's put them in and they pay no attention to
who these teams have beaten or in better terms, have
not beaten by the way play anybody.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
That's the most diplomatic I've ever heard him talk about
Texas in like three years.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Yeah, Notre Dame and Texas both have two losses amongst
teams that would be in the playoff race. But Notre
Dame has no wins against any of those teams, in
Texas has three.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
Yeah, again, they just jump to the eleven and one
or ten and two. Doesn't matter who you played, you're
in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
You're in the best team in the country as we
sit here right now today is who It's Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
I mean, they're ridiculous. New Michigan gave it a go.
But I mean this Ohio State team almost might be
better than last.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Year, meaning you think they will win their next game
rather easily over the only other undefeated team in the country, Indiana.

Speaker 6 (51:15):
I can't and this is probably a discredit to Indiana,
but I can't stop looking at them and thinking it's
Cinderella and eventually the clock is gonna strike midnight. You're
gonna come back down to Earth. Setty's done a tremendous
job there. He deserves all the credit in the world.
But I'm sorry. Until you sustain a successful run of
multiple years of doing this, Indiana, I'm gonna keep looking
at you and questioning you.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Can Texas Tech do something In the playoffs? They have
played like they belong in this upper tech, upper tier group.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
Yeah, the defense has been light years better. I'm voting
for all these postseason awards, and I keep seeing all
these names from Texas Tech popping up.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
And so that is the reason.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
If Texas Tech's gonna go on a run, it's because
their defense is caught up to the offense.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Is Diego Pavia's mom son, your Heisman Trophy winner?

Speaker 6 (52:02):
If I had a vote, he would I definitely would
be giving. I don't know if I could get my vote,
but he'd be right there in the top three.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
That was a stretch. He deserves to go to New York.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Well, I couldn't remember his mom. She's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Mom's son. All right, Gordy, we appreciate you stopping by.
Yeah buddies any time. All right, we will get back
to the Texans when we return.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Hi. Praise for their defense from a familiar face. You'll
hear from him next. What what Jeordie was saying is
absolutely true. They're gonna get in because of the name, recognition,
the Golden helmets, the historical something or other, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I mean, they are coming off as a non Catholic
right now.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
But the ten wins that came after the two losses
were against it unfortunately. I mean, they play a bunch
of nationally recognized universities, but they don't have good football teams.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
By the way, I'm not disputing the same thing that
applies to both brands, because that's what they are. You know,
the Cowboys are actually playing way better than I thought
they would this year, but I don't think they're gonna
do anything in the postseason.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Well, they're not in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
They're on the outside looking in right now, so they
have to keep doing what they're doing. I do think
Jerry Jones bashing has to at least pause for a touch.
You know, I'm not gonna say Michael Parsons hasn't been
exactly what we thought he would be there in Green
Bay that he could have been in Dallas, and you
got to look at what they sent out versus what
they brought in. They sit here today having won very

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impressively on Thanksgiving Day over the Chiefs with their new
front of their defensive front. Two new players have come in,
one in that deal, one of a separate deal with
the Jets. He's the guy that said, yeah, George Pickens
is good at football, I'd love to have him here.
Other teams were a little bit hesitant to do so.
He's the general man just said bring it on. He's

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been awesome and their offense has been outstanding. He's the
guy that took a chance on Javonte Williams after a
couple of down years due to injury. And again, that's
more weapons for an offense that's been among the best
in the enemy.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Meanwhile, the Packers can't even leap the Bears, nor can
anybody else in the NFC.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
The Bears and the Patriots are at the front of
the line in the NFL. In the conversation we're having
about college football, well, who have you played in the NFC?
Nobody's played a weaker group of quarterbacks than the Bears.
Guess who's number one in the NFC right now? The Bears.

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In the AFC, nobody's played a weaker group of quarterbacks
than the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
We talked about this too, They were going to have
the AFC a third place schedule, and they were going
to rack up a bunch of wins because they play
a bunch of sisters of the poor.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Well, it's also because in their division there's one quarterback
that doesn't play for them. Josh, that's four games this
year you're gonna get when you played your you played
outside the division in the NFC, you played Bryce Young
and Andy Dalton, you played Michael Pennox junior, you played
Spencer Rattler, and then at the upper end of it,

(55:16):
you played Baker Mayfield. And over the course of the year,
you've played Geno Smith and Cam Ward and Joe Flack
and Josh Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Great, but you got to play them again, right, one
game and that balances out against the ten games against
all these other clowns.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Right, speaking of clowns. Okay, so well, we'll get to
that in a second. I got my uh, I got
my schedule mixed up. Let's get to what the Texans
defense did yesterday, because this is the reason I'm so
bullish on them going into Kansas City. And finally, by
the way, I don't think it's hyperbole to say this.
If they don't win this week in Kansas City. I

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don't know that they ever will. And I'm not even
saying vulnerable is not the right word for the Chiefs,
but they're just not. This defense should absolutely now again
you want to talk about. This is why I kept
my mouth shut yesterday on social to a large extent
about the officiating, because get ready, the Chiefs are reeling.

(56:14):
Talk about good for business. If the Chiefs make the postseason,
that's better for the NFL. I'm not saying anything's gonna
happen to you know, expedite that. But the Cowboys beating
the Chiefs is okay for the people that like those
kinds of things that I'm talking about, ratings and money.
The Texans beating them on their home field, I don't know.

(56:35):
So it'd be interesting to see who the crew is.
But the bottom line is this defense I think is
still I said this last week, I got a little pushback.
I think this Texans defense this season is playing way
better than last year's defense. And last year's defense was awesome,
So it's no disrespect.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
So who was on last year's defense that isn't here
this year? That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
No, Well, I'm saying it because could that be the
person that's pushing back, because anybody else do it would
be crazy. Well, this year's defense, who's pushing back? What
is it that you see I'm missing?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
They're clearly better than last year's week though.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
It's like these same guys that were on that defense
last year are somehow elevating what they did last season.
Now they're healthier. Petrie was not there for the last
month of the season. Well, he also missed three games
this season. Yeah, but right now and he just got back.
By the way, I know what the point is. Those
helmets look so cartoonish. I get that they have to

(57:32):
wear them, and why.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
They came out of yesterday.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Josh See our producer who you guys know, Well, we
were watching the game up here and maybe late second
or early third quarter, he said, oh, Petrie's got one
of those guardian helmets on, and it looked absolutely literally
like you said, it looked it looks like the big
hats you can buy.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
But what I said to him was, and.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
I don't know why everybody doesn't wear them, And he's like, yeah,
I mean I think they think it looks weird.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I'm like, you didn't even notice. It's the third quarter.
Nobody even noticed.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
But I think it was because there was an ISO
on him at his position. Do we care what it
looks like because it matters. It helps you play. You're
here to play football. This is what you love to do.
This what are you getting paid to do? This is
what your life because just put it on your head
the same reason that people thought it was talked about
Rip Hamilton's mask when he wore it all the time,

(58:17):
he looks like he just a serial killer.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Well he kept it on.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, because he's smart. Ah, he's all right, He's smarter
than Chauncy Billips. But anyway, now the defense.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Defense was very good last year, and I mentioned there
was really just one area they needed to get better
and this year they hadn't been better until the last
couple of weeks, and that's in the red zone of
gold to got situations. They've gotten significantly better in the
red zone. That needs to continue, but everywhere else. The
results of this weekend put him back at number one,
number one in points allowed, number one in yards allowed.
They're in the top five and many other categories beyond

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the obvious that you know some of the epas and
dvoas and things like that. They are exactly what you
would want to have statistically if you're trying to make
the argument this is the best defense the NFL, which
they are.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
They are, And I know it sounded like a homer
when the Colts were racking up wins against those sisters
of the poor, but that's what it's looking like right now,
and this is not a hell thing.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Damas sauce Gardner.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
He was traded at the deadline, so I don't even
he played what a handful of games for them before
he went down with yesterday's injury. Daniel Jones with his
leg injury, I'm sorry, but if you're out there at quarterback,
it's like Aaron Rodgers playing with the broken wrist or whatever.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Like you're out there.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
I don't We're not gonna make excuses Jones. I don't
think there's any question about it, because he can.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
That's on you for putting him out there against that defense,
is what I would say.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
No, that's the smart thing to do. You have less
of a chance to win with Riley the option. Yeah,
the other option is terrible. To acknowledge that he is
not himself, I think is also fair. He can throw
the ball off a very sound platform still, so I
think the ball is still going to get where it
needs to go, provided he has the space around a
plant to kind of move in the pocket a little bit.
But he's not going to run with the football. He's

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not going to scramble for yards. They're not going to
call plays that they would have otherwise called earlier than
the year those plays are out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
But I'm also not going to act like the schedule
that they've already started to play in which they've suffered
losses to Steelers on the road. If you want to
say that they're not a great team, okay, they're still
a division leader. They were when at the time they
played at the Chiefs home for the Texans. I don't
know what's going to happen in this Jaguars game. I
would like to think the Colts would win that I'd

(01:00:24):
like for them too. I guess I don't really know
who I want to win that game. They got the
same record, But then you're gonna go to Seattle home
for the forty nine ers, and you got another game
against the Jags and another game against the Texans. This
is where the harder part of the schedule for the
Texans at the beginning of the year. That helped contribute
to an zero to three start. Starts to look like,

(01:00:45):
oh okay, now we're kind of seeing these these ships
passing the night, and meanwhile, the Texans defense just keeps
getting better and better. And if you don't believe me,
take a listen to a guy who would know about it.
He was on the call yesterday and afterward gave some
some parting thoughts if you will, to how well this
Texans defense is playing. His name's Justin James Watt. You

(01:01:06):
may have heard of him. They're as a group.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
They never really let the quarterbacks slip out, or they
never both get behind him or both get in front
of him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
They don't give escape lanes. They keep them bottled up.
And it's very difficult for quarterbacks to play against that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I mean, if you're a quarterback right now, and I
don't care who you are, Patrick Mahomes is in the
bulls eye right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
He's in the crosshairs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
He's a guy that can pull a rabbit out of
a hat anytime. It didn't happen against the Cowboys. And
that kind of worries me because I don't know if
the Texans can put enough points on the board, not
because of anything the Chiefs are gonna do defensively, but
just some more. It's more about what they're doing. But
Patrick Mahomes, as good as he is, this defense is

(01:01:50):
clicking on all cylinders, and I really really like the
Texans chances this week going in there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Yeah, Cowboys defense has played better, but they didn't do
much to stop Kansas City. Four touchdown passes, no turnovers.
Kansas City did a lot to stop themselves ten penalties
for one hundred and nineteen yards, and then conversely, which
the Texans don't quite have, the Chiefs couldn't do anything
with the Cowboys offense. That's why the Cowboys kept going

(01:02:17):
up and down the field against them. That's why they
had the two fourth quarter scores that allowed them to
win the game. If they don't keep scoring, they're going
to lose to Kansas City. But they did keep scoring,
and they kept the ball at the end of the game,
and they were in victory formation for the final two minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
It's going to be fascinating to see how this goes.
Because I am still a little concerned about the Texans offense,
but I have zero concern about that defense. And like
I said, this is as ripe as they have ever
been to going to Kansas City during the Mahomes era
and get a victory. We'll switch it back to the
college side of things. This Lane Kiffen drama is spectacular
and you're gonna hear a little bit more on that

(01:02:57):
when we come back as well. All right, let's dive
down into this Lane Kiffen drama. First of all, going
back to what we were talking about with Gordy at
the top of the hour, wex, this is how college
football is set up right now. The schedule and how
things you know, fall in that schedule, relatives of the

(01:03:18):
academic calendar and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
That's one thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
But the coaches being free agents, and by the way,
it wasn't that long ago where we would come on
and we would talk about how, you know, kids were
upset that coaches could do this, that they were basically
free agents and the contracts meant nothing. Now coaches and
players are essentially free agents. Like, don't think that for

(01:03:44):
a second that Lane Kiffen isn't salivating about the fact
of not only bringing some of the you know, star
quality talent that he has uh with him or had
with him at Old Miss over to LSU. Then they're
going to give him a blank check and he's going
to go buy more talent. That's what everybody's so happy
about in Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
That's definitely one part of it. Coaching is kind of
the same thing. That's why Ole Miss did what they did,
so some of their coaches on what will be a
playoff team will be there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Coach Golding is obviously staying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
He's the new head coach, but he's only staying because
he's the new head coach, and some of the offensive
staff similarly, because they basically paid for them to stay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
You know, that's one of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
The reasons, you know, Lane leaving when he did well,
if you're not gonna let me stay, And according to
him and his words in his interview that he gave
to Marty of ESPN, Marty Smith, he said, Okay, I
respect that, I totally understand that talking about Keith Carter,
their ad at Ole Miss.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Okay. Then without saying it to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Marty, he's like, all right, well, I'm just gonna go
ahead and tell my coaches, well, come on along, it's
time to go now, I'm leaving, So if you want
to be a part of my staff, you're going to
be leaving two, which means it's obviously bad for the
eleven and one Ole Miss Rebels not playing in the
conference title game, but they are awaiting their playoff positioning
and what is next for them, So it's just makes
it that much harder. And yeah, I do think the
committee will consider where things are and what this means.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
They're going to have to guess though a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Unlike Florida State several years ago, obviously that was a
player and that was their quarterback, and Florida State had
another game to play, so they saw them play without
him a little bit, this is very different. For all
they know, some never heard of whiz kid offensive talent
is going to run their offense. It's going to be
the best they've ever looked. Pretty unlikely, but they won't

(01:05:26):
know that. They'll have to guess if they want to
use that for some of their seating. I kind of
felt one way the whole time changed it a little
at the end because I do think he made it
harder for Ole Miss, kind of backed them into a
corner in terms of what their future was by taking
so long to make his decision. But the whole premise
of this conversation all day today has been about it's
a bigger problem than Lane. It is a college football issue.

(01:05:49):
If they don't view it as a problem, then why
should we? And their actions are if they don't view
it as a problem because it happened last year, and
it happened the year before and the year before and
the year before, in the or before, it's it's going
to happen with all coaches that are good yea, because
they're the desirable products that other teams want to say, Hey,
for more money, will you come here? We're not done

(01:06:10):
with our season, Well we have more money, will you
come here?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Yes? Did you hear what I said?

Speaker 7 (01:06:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Today, way before the season is over.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
And by the way, in case you hadn't heard, or
you were wondering, or you've been trapped under a heavy object,
this is what it sounded like, is Lane Kiffen walked
to get on a private jet and board it for
Baton Rouge. Just just an absolute bloodlust, you know, I mean,

(01:06:47):
and again that's history.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
And he's making it harder for the best team in
Ole Miss history that he helped make to win. He's
making it harder for them to win a title he
had he's had he chosen them and stayed there, and
they would have been one of probably five or sixteens
they thought could pull a couple of upsets and win it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
All the comments to that are spectacular.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
One one fan wrote, Tennessee fans first time, Yeah, I
mean this is that's what this guy does. And by
the way, I'm not mad at him. Is he slimy
in how he goes about it? Did he look very
small in confronting the reporter who may or made him
not have called him the three letter garden tool?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
You know word? The actual spelling of that is hoe.
I don't know. I'll go with you on it. I
don't know. I've seen it both. It's not like Santa Claus.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
I know that there's no E in Santa Claus, right, No,
because there's three of those. Ho ho ho also with
no E. Yeah, okay, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
On my Diehard sweatshirt that I can't wear on TV
even though I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Ho Ho Ho is written.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
With h o a woman in particular, one who has
many casual sexual encounters or relationships. It says ho ho.
Really the second definition is a pro Wait a second,
is this urban dictionary?

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I never break Urban Dictionary to the three o'clock hour, well,
not publicly. I just wonder what they have to say about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Thisng handled gardening tool with a thin metal blade used
mainly for weeding and breaking up soul soil. That is
a hoe h oe.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Okay, I'll allow it. By the way, that's not even
lee enough. Uh huh, considering this is from the dictionary. Yes,
and we're talking about ole Miss. Yeah, it's from the
Oxford Dictionary.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Oh how about that? By the way, dad jokes always welcome,
They're very good. How could you not be romantic about
college football? Was my favorite comment?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
All right, let me get back to the confrontation. You
brought that up earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
So during a podcast, someone who covers ole Miss football,
young guy, and he had said something that clearly Lane
had gotten hold of it herd and did not like it.
Referenced him, you know, hoe turning into a housewife. You
can't trust them in this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
That underrated track on Chronic two thousand and one, by
the way, by doctor Dre.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Just saying not properly rated.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I can't you know what why you say this, I'm
gonna look up the track list to see how they
spell housewife.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
So he Lane's walking off the field after they won
the Egg Bowl this last weekend with the normal security
detail whether it's one or two or three several and
there did appear to be some sort of interaction between
the two on his way off the field, But then
he went back to truly confront him and spoke. I
want to say he spoke face to face with him.

(01:09:35):
But this is why the reporter looks so ridiculous in this,
because he wouldn't look at him. He looked off into
the distance like it was so loud there he had
to shove his ear in Lane's mouth so he could
hear him. But it was more about him being frightened
by what might happen next. No, he shouldn't have challenged
him physically, and Lane also was in a position where

(01:09:56):
his whole security details with him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
What's he going? I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
But both, Yes, absolutely, it was the worst of college
football and the best of college football.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
It is what you are left with now. Because so
many people who are bossless cover media in this way,
have their own podcasts, generate their own income, create their
own brand, but they can do things that otherwise you
would not normally do personal attack wise, which is how
Lane felt this was, even though a reporter tried to
tell him, now, that's not what he said at all.

(01:10:26):
He's just challenging your commitment, and Lane's like, just I'm
not getting into this nonsense with you. And he looked
bad there too. Why he added the I don't even
know what your name is. Coaches, Come on, man, that's
just you were in the right, you were taking the
eye and then you didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
That's him being his condescending best his self, and by
best I mean worst.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
In nineteen ninety nine, when doctor dre and Hitman penned
the lyrics to Housewife, they spelled it ho correctly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
And the reporter what was his name again?

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Then something or other he was supply quoting a three
six mafia uh track, I think, But that's also the
lyrics in this. You can't make one of those a
housewife with no E, by the way, just so we're clear.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
So yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Lane Kiffin is at the forefront of the college football
landscape conversation, as per usual.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Lsu at Ole, Miss September fifth, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Oh, they are going to boo the crap out of him,
Demiico and CJ. They weren't getting booed when they got home.
They were getting booed inn India yesterday, huge division win.
You're gonna hear from both of them next, you know
the program Texans victory edition of the program. We love
when the Texans win, especially lately the way they're doing it.
They're just finding ways on offense and then their defense

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is just killing people. I honestly didn't think Daniel Jones
was going to survive yesterday. I'm not even talking about
it hit that much. I know, I'm not even talking
about metaphorically. I thought they were actually going to kill him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
How do you like?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
There was the clips of him like throwing in practice
inside their bubble or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
He looked awful.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
That was from our guest James Boyd, who had that
video that was circulating everywhere, and they looked good, right well,
he said what you saw versus what well? That was
before he had shot that and then we got all
the video yesterday pregame looked totally different.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
He looked just like he did during the game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
What's the drug they shoot you? Up with it starts
with a T tordole. Yeah, it can do wonders. That
should be a poster for that drug.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
They claim that the hairline fracture can't get worse, and
that's why he's going out there. He claims that it's
going to get better over time, and he said he
felt better in this game that he did in the
game before against the Kansas City Chiefs. But I think
it's pretty obvious it impacts what they want to do.
It impacts some of the calls that they're going to make,
and it impacts his ability to extend plays, which otherwise

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I think he'd for the most part, done a pretty
good job of hadn't been particularly good in the fourth
quarter this year, and that showed in yesterday's game. They
were only able to generate a little bit offensively there,
even though they were right there in the game. Another player,
another pass or just about anything works that they're going
to be in really really good shape. You know, Colts
only three for ten on third downs in yesterday's game,

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and just think about that number. Three for ten that
has not a lot of third down opportunities. That probably
means you didn't have the ball a whole lot. That
probably means the best way to keep the other team,
when they're one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL,
from scoring is don't let them have the football. They
have this week's game plan against Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, they
have the ball three times in the first quarter. Since

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Shane Steichen said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Oh, your defense is so good, watch this, we want
the ball first after we win the toss.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Okay, three plays later, you can punt, fine with us
three and out. They got two yards on the opening
completion of Jonathan Taylor and then nothing after that, three
and out on the second possession, and then they got
their loan first down in the first quart on the
following possession, which they ultimately punted from. As well three
possessions in the first quarter, they had the ball six

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times the rest of the entire game, only three times
in the second half. The Texans defense gave up ten
first downs in the second half. They gave up almost
two hundred yards in the second half, but it was
all on three drives that netted the Colts ten points.
They scored a touchdown, then they scored a field goal.
Then it was their last drive on the fourth down
play that Stingley Junior helped break up and that was

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their entire second half's worth of possessions. They had the
ball nine times, nine possessions the entire game, and one
of them came immediately after you stopped them on downs
on the Tyler Warren fumble, because the very next play
was in an interception. That was their only touchdown drive
until the second half, the three play forty two yard

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drive that came immediately after CJ's overthrow of X.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Yeah, it was bad and he looked rusty at time yesterday.
But as you're gonna hear Jamiko Ryan say, they found
a way to close out a tough division win on
the road.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
We finished wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:15:09):
Man, it's our defense. They stood up, made a play
and we were in the same position last week. Fourth down.
You know you got to make a play there and
in the red zone. Guys made a play. Offense had
to go close it out. Knew we had to run
the football there. They knew we were running the ball,
and we did we need to do. I thought Woody,
you know, did an exceptional job there at the end

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of the game, closing it out, get the first down,
and just the way he turned out yards, the.

Speaker 7 (01:15:35):
Way he protected the football.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
He did a great job ball game Woody.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
On those last five carries he got four, one, one,
and zero and the enormous game clinching nine yard carry
on second and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Nine where he crawled to half of the yardage.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
It just shows you some backs are good like I
don't think he has particularly good vision, but I think
he has extremely good balance.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Why did he go in the tent? What was the injury?

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
He got hip drop tackled and he hurt his ankle.
Oh really, and they didn't call that, did they?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
They did not? Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
I wonder if Colts fan knows about that, just like
I wonder if Bears fan knows about that from last
year when Joe Mixon got hip drop tackled.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Yeah, he went to the ten.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
He actually I believe he went to the locker room
and then came back and obviously didn't miss a tremendous
amount of time. But that second down run second nine
thirty three seconds or from the thirty three yard line,
after the Colts had correctly used their first time out
because they had all three o the timeouts remaining, there's
one forty five left in the game. When the Texans
want to again, there's two different there's two things you

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want to do. You can't run the clock out unless
you get a first down.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
So the thing you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Should want to do more than the clock part of
it is get ten yards. You get ten yards, you win.
Not you run three running plays, you win. And I
think Texans didn't do anything differently. They just were able
to get the ten yards by running the football. And
that's what he what he did it a week ago
in the backfield, got hit, kept his balance, lunged forward,

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and took a little leap with his last step, and
earned a first down against the Bills on Thursday night,
he did the same thing on this nine yard game.
He was hit way before he was anywhere near the
first down marker, but was able to keep his feet
moving and keep his balance well enough that he could
lunge forward and leap ahead of the line. No knee
had hit the ground, he was properly spotted, and they

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kind of got away with it on the three runs
that ended the game to use just enough clock with
one thirty four left to get the two forty second
runoffs with the Colts only having one timeout remaining then
because they had to call it after the first down,
but when he says finish it. Like you just heard
from Demiko, it took both the defense and the offense.
Offense got the ball with one forty five left and

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three timeouts in the Colts hands. The defense had to
stop the Colts on their final drive of the game.
They had eighty three yards a field in front of them.
They let him get down to the Texans thirty one
yard line, but then they forced three straight in completions
and that was your ball game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
And we'll get to CJ in the next segment so
we can kind of have enough space to hear from
both him and from another former quarterback who had praised
for me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
And we heard from JJ Watt talking about the defense.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
You're gonna hear about you know what what the talking
heads if you will, that we're in the studio for
CBS as they called that game yesterday. By the way,
I thought JJ Watt's tweet about basically how he's doing
as an analyst was perfect because he's like, well, you're
gonna make people mad. No matter what JJ has been
and I'm not saying this because he played for the Texans,

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JJ's been awesome in his first full season as a
color analyst. I know that the Texans happened to be
undefeated when he calls games, so that might sound like
it plays into it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
But just from here, he's done three Texans games in
one Steelers game, I think, so it's really nice for
him to have all this infamaciliarity, tons of He's seen
TJ play a ton obviously, and he knows a lot
about him and his team. He knows even more about
the Texans than this team and Demiko. It makes for
a better broadcast when you have someone with even more

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knowledge than you typically get.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Weak to week. But he's not like Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Sounded like it was his first season doing this last
year Tony Romo, even though he.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Know, wow, talking about Tony rom.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
You will talk next segment, don't interrupt me, No, but
he sounded like he sounded like it was his first
year as well, even though he was guessing a lot
of play. So people kind of ignored the other JJ.
I'm not gonna say he's like a finished product, but
he sounds pretty polished to me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Take a look here, Ian.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
He would never it would never, would never, and he's
not back when I play a guy, which is the
hardest thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
That's why Blum's so good on baseball. He doesn't do that,
and in his case, like Tom, but unlike Tony, he
could totally because he played with these guys, so he
was on the field with players that are out there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
And some of these coaches. So yeah, there's a lot
of that that could happen, but it doesn't. So yeah,
props to JJ. You will from like I said another
analyst of the quarterback variety and CJ himself when we
come back the A team Sports Talk seven nineties Space
City Home Network.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
If you're just joining us, we appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Hope you're day back to work if that's what you've
done today is going smooth.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Hopefully you're almost out of there. I mean it's four o'clock, not.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Lot less traffic today, a typical Monday. Why, by the way,
why is that there are less people out there?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
All right? What else?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
You're the worst? I mean, everybody's been off. Why aren't
they back to work today? I mean, I'm trying to
get people back to work. I'd rather enjoyed my hardly
had to stop the whole way here on end to work.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Oh I did too, don't be I mean the weather sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Actually, I we haven't had very much rain, so it's
okay to happen all bit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
And I've I actually like this weather. I could take
the less of the rain part of it, but yeah,
I like cold weather.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
So I'm kind of a weirdo like that. I live
in the wrong city.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
But Texans they must have liked the cold weather, by
the way, and Pat McAfee kind of made fun of
this today. There was a meme going around that I
guess the nickname for Lucas Oil Stadium is the loud House,
and or it's been called that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I don't know. I've never heard it called.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
That a lot I hasn't really caught on maybe, but
somebody put Stroudhouse on the side of it, because he's
now three to zero in that building after yesterday through
his first career interception against them in the year three. Yeah, yeah, no,
I mean, look, he he's had better games there, but
he's had a better games against him almost every time

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he's played them, honestly here or there right, which shows
you how strongly he's played against them over the course
of his career, but certainly good enough to move the
ball in between the twenties quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
He had two hundred and seventy six yards passing at
the end of the day, that another one hundred yards rushing.
You got a rushing touchdown for both Nick Chubb and
Nico Collins. And for as much as they didn't put
a lot of points on the board, they only have
twenty at the end of the day. Their offense was
on the field to the final one to forty five
of a four point game because they were able to
get a first down.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
That's how they won the game. When you're winning and
you have the ball late and you can run the
clock out, it's a huge deal. It is a huge deal.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
The last time they did that, when we were talking
about it earlier today on the show, it was different.
That was when both teams were scoring at will. The
Colts got a touchdown and then the Texans had to answer,
and then the Colts got another touchdown, and you were like, well,
they're going to score again if you give them the
ball back, so don't and Joe Mixon afforded them the
opportunity to not give them the ball back.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Well, CJ did make the mistake that you mentioned, and
it did lead directly to points.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
As you mentioned, the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Interception ended, if you will, on the forty two yard
line of Houston, and forty two yards later they were
into the end zone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
But all's well, that ends well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I thought he for having his first game back and
for it being in the type of situation that it was,
this big game, division situation on the road, he played
about as well as you could have. And if you're
wondering what he thought of his first start back, this
was CJ. Stroud assessing his own performance as the Texans
continue to win.

Speaker 9 (01:23:08):
Early on, I was a litt rusty, I thought, you know,
I uh, you know, they really didn't give me no
like big plays, you know, like they were taking a
lot of that stuff away. So just I thought I
was very disciplined, you know, checkdowns and you know, getting
the ball to where he had to go, you know,
and then of course the interception sucked. You know, I
got to just take care of the ball and you know,
put put Huch in a better spot and just flatten
them out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:23:28):
But other than that, I thought I played really good.
I thought, you know, every opportunity I had, you know,
with the ball, I thought, I you know, made the
right decision. You know, a couple of plays on one back.
But I thought, you know, I did a really good
job of, you know, taking what the defense is giving me.
You know, I think the type of team we have,
you know, I don't have to be Superman all the time,
and you know, I got to go to just do
my job each and every play. And I'm not gonna
be perfect. I'm never gonna be perfect. And I trust myself.

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I know my teammates trust me, and that's all it
really matters.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Obviously, the interception sucked. WEX.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
I like the way you put that. And keep in
mind there's a zero in the touchdown column for CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Stroud.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Well, he threw a touchdown past to Nico Collins and
Nico put his foot out of bounds unnecessarily, as silly
as it is and as hard as his turn up field,
And make sure you don't do that for where he
caught the football. That was a very well run and
very well executed play with CJ rolling out there to
the right outside of the pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
And throwing it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
He had two outlets right there, and he chose Collins
over the shorter route, and it was he put it
right on the money, right where he needed to catch it.
In stride and turn up field. If you guys, I'm
sure many of you have played football. I'm sure many
of you have seen the Texans practice those that you
go during training camp that looked exactly like a play
they run in drills all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Here he goes throwing the ball. He's gonna catch it immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Turn up field, tiptoe the sidelines if he has to,
but he's gonna make sure he stays in bounds and
runs whatever extra yards he gets until he's in the
end zone, which is what Nico, I'm sure and you
could see it if you were watching. He immediately put
his hand on his chest, not to beat it, not
to say, hey, number twelve is here this building that
he actually does own, but rather to say that's on me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
That's my fault. That should not have happened. I should
have scored. Yeah, no, it was. It was all about accountability.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Now, I don't know how you feel about me, since
we were talking about analysis and some of these former
players that do it. I think Matt Ryan is decent
on the desk, better in the desk than he was
I thought elsewhere. Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably a good
assessment of him.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
But when he doesn't get a cramp, he get a cramp.
I think it was a couple of weeks ago there
on set and he had such a bad cramp in
his leg that Charlie he just had. He had the
limp off stage. They he could not continue sitting there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Jeane Peterson didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
He he walked off the set and they tried to get
him some water and he got back on you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Oh, I'm fine, I'm fine. No, I'm not. No, I'm not.

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I say, I haven't got one in a really long time,
and now I've probably just jinxed myself into getting one
tonight or tomorrow morning when I wake up.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Yeah, I know gets them all the time, but I'm
glad it doesn't happen when we're on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
That would be brutal because you can't well you got it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
If you got to be in a position where like
for me, it would be very very difficult with the
little kid syndrome, when seated at a chair that's very
high and my feet are just dangling there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
There's not much to push against to fix the cramp.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
That's what I would be just bearing that into the ground,
stretching it out, hoping that it would go.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Kind of walk it off. Man, it's the worst. Okay,
that's the thing. You want to walk it off, Well,
you're seated. You can't unless you just walk away.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Yeah. What did Matt Ryan have to What did he
have to say?

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Well, he had major praise, as the NFL on CBS's
ex account described it, for both CJ and his entire
text and squad.

Speaker 7 (01:26:44):
But I really liked CJ. Straus's mindset right there. I
think he understands what their football team is. Their their
football team is a defensive driven football team. He also
mentioned pass protection and run game, explosive pass plays, that
kind of stuff. That's that's at the attom of the
list right now. He talked about taking care of the football,
making good decisions with the football, understanding the pieces that

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he has around them. And I think if he plays
that type of way, this team is as good as
anyone is playing as well as anyone right now, they're
a scary football team if CJ. Stroud starts to find
that stride, and I think he is. I think he
played very very well in the second half.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
I don't want to lean into that yet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Obviously you're getting this kind of conversation after this game
because it's the Colts. But I've never really believed in
the Colts. And even though I'm saying this about a
Chiefs team that, while I don't think vulnerable is the
right word, it's the most gettable I think they have been,
especially in their house since Patrick Mahomes got on the scene.

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When the Texans go in there and win that game
next weekend or this weekend, I guess I should say
that's when you're going to start hearing the It's not
a whisper. These are not whispers that you're hearing from
CJ or from JJ and from Matt Ryan and from others.
There's been plenty of praise going around, not just from
those two, but it's going to be a deafening roar

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if they go into Kansas City, even with all the
flaws that Kansas City has had, and effectively, I don't
want to say it's ending their playoff chances, but basically
it's ending.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Their playoff chances of being ahead of Houston. That's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Texans are a game ahead of them. Currently, they'd be
two games ahead of them and have the tiebreaker in
a head to head with just four games remaining, so
there would not be in a position to pass Houston.
There might be in a position to pass other teams
that Houston has also passed, but hard to believe it
the way that they're playing. And then just who Kansas
City is. Secondarily the Texans and Chiefs this weekend is

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a matchup of two non playoff teams. Neither one of
them is inside the playoff picture, though a Texans victory
will put them inside the playoff picture next week, provided
Jacksonville and Indianapolis don't tie, The Texans will be in
a playoff situation this coming week regardless as long as

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that isn't a tie, because then both of them would
stay ahead of it. One of them will be behind
them next week when they lose if the Texans win.
The vulnerability of the Chiefs is a little hard to
pinpoint one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Other than this simple fact they win at home.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Still, they lost their home opener the first game in
Kansas City. They lost it to the Chiefs by three,
and since then they haven't lost a home game. They
beat the Lions at home the Ravens, although the Ravens
again aren't the type of Ravens teams we've seen the
Colts victory that was at home, the overtime victory over them.

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They lose on the road. They went at home. As
much as a six and six teams does not seem
at all like Kansas City. They still are tough to
beat there in Kansas City. They just also have the
added issue overall season long of if they're in a
close game, they're probably not gonna win. The overtime victory
against Indy that was a one score win. There are

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other one score games have gone like this. Loss loss, loss, loss,
loss loss.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
They're also down twenty to nine to the Colts.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Yeah, so it wasn't a one score victory at that
I mean they had to come back from more and
the Colts were shooting themselves in the foot.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
They've had leads in some of these other games that
they've lost. They've had deficits in some of these other
games that they've lost. The bottom line is at the
end of the game, who made the play or plays
to win. I mean they lost on the last play
of the game. In some of these games, Denver kicked
a field on the very last play of the game.
This is what close games are. The Texans have gone
through the exact same thing. They've just had a season

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of or two different seasons. Remember when I kept coming
in here every day is great? What are you trying
to finish? All you're doing is losing one score loss
over and over and over again, three of them to
start the year. Then they added another one. Then they
added another one in the Denver game. Those five straight,
oh in five on the season. In one score.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Games, they've won four straight one score games, four consecutive
one score games, three of them last three in a
row are because the other team can't put points on
the board. The Texans have scored sixteen, twenty, three, and
twenty in their last three games. The other team hasn't
gotten to twenty in any of them, and they're three

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and zero.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
It's been remarkable and seeing if they can keep it
going against a team that's had their number, Well, that's
what this week's going to be all about as we
continue getting you ready for the latest biggest matchup between
the Texans and whoever's on the schedule this week.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
It's the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
We're gonna be all rosy about the Texans and how
good yesterday and the last few weeks have been and
the results are all that really matter, right, we probably
should pick nits about the end of the first half.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
He has asked that very question today, so hopefully we'll
hear from him his exact answer on that answer that
late in his press conference today. Although every time those
questions get asked, unless they're phrased very very very very specifically,
it's just easy for him to say, Hey, where are
you trying to get points there? Yes, I mean kind
of obvious in my opinion, And we were talking about

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this as it was happening. I think that's a situation
where this particular coach. Maybe it's because he's a defensive coach,
maybe it's just who he is. All he wanted out
of that final possession was the clock to be at
zero when it was over.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Don't let the Colts get the ball back.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
And with just under two minutes, you would think with
that much field in front of you, that was kind
of gonna be obvious. But if you don't get a
first down, they're definitely gonna get the ball back. Well,
you did that on the very first snap. You got
eleven yards and you didn't know huddle, you didn't kind
of speed things up you obviously weren't playing with tempo,
and you snapped it on first and ten from the
thirty one after an eleven yard gain with one ten left,

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still more than enough time to not just get points.
And that's part of the looseness of what you're after.
If I'm the head coach, I'm not trying to get points.
I'm trying to score a touchdown. I'm trying to drive
the length of the field and put six points on
the board and make the extra point one ten. They
run it with Woody Marx. They do go a little

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bit more quickly after that short gain and get another
first down on a throat to Nico Collins. But now
there's thirty nine seconds left in you're fifty five yards
from the end zone. There's probably enough time to get there,
but you only have one time out left now because
you've had to use it there and you chose not
to use it earlier, which was fine, but just go
more quickly. So they ran three plays. Really the play

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in question, and he actually did address this. They wanted
to call time out after higgins eleven yard catch with
about fifteen sixteen seventeen seconds to go, except it wasn't
an eleven yard catch. He caught the ball and didn't
turn upfield properly and kind of just went down and

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so they didn't have a first down, so they had
to let the clock run down to two seconds and
throw hail Mary on the run with nothing on it
that got to the ten. That was a bad ball
leaving your hand moment for CJ. Every quarterback in the league,
even the worst ones, even Dylan Gabriel, can get the
ball the end zone when you're rolling out to that direction,

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you're throwing direction, and for some reason just did not
come out of his hand very well. Did you notice
who knocked it down? Though, by the way, they did
not mention it on the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Mmmm, there was two guys player one defensive snap in Yes,
and that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
That was it, Former Texan No, it's a current cult
wide receiver who had an awesome game. Oh alers here
in the game, and he's the one who went up
over other teammates and knocked it to the ground. It's
a very smart use of your personnel by coach Tikan.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
Class Well, he's very tall, as evidence when he climbed
the ladder to catch that one handed grab.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Later in the game, Yeah. If I could recall which
of the three days last week, I said, it was
probably Wednesday. I wasn't really Jonathan Taylor's gonna do what
he did and for the he had one hundred and
twenty yars offense.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
He did what he does.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Michael Pittman's not a super threat, but I figured he'd
be a little more productive. Same with Josh Downs figured
to be a little more productive. Tyler Warn a tough cover,
but specifically by name, I mentioned the player they should
be concerned with because the Colts will take shots unlike
other teams the Texans have faced, and they're gonna do
it with Alec Pierce. He had an awesome day against

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the Texans.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Second, you know who didn't Michael Pittman, yep, the other
guys because he saw on my fantasy team.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
That's the only reason why whatever you're gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Yeah, and to Pierce doing what he did. This is
the thing that I think is the most concerning about
this upcoming game.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
The Chiefs don't care what you do.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
If you sack him ten times, maybe he won't be
able to but Mahomes is going to throw the ball
down the field against you to whoever whoever's down there, anybody,
anybody other than Kelsey. But you gotta keep Rice from
getting in space. You got to keep Worthy from getting
behind the defense. You got to keep whom ever they
have because other guys will run past Georgians.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
You should also cover Kelsey since they didn't the last
time they played them. I think they'll be okay. And
the difference is between these two teams specifically, does the
Colts do everything based on their run game, and so
when you do things to bottle up Taylor, and you know,
you could say it both ways. I can say Taylor
kind of got his but you could also correctly say, yeah,
it was a grind for him to get to eighty

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plus yards and he had three yards of carrier less.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Like ten times. It was all purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
They did a great job. The Colts don't are mean.
The Chiefs don't base their offense on their ground game.
Their ground game is awful and they know it and
they don't care, and they don't rely on it and
they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
It's a lot like the Texans. Hey, let's just run
into the pile and see if we get a yard.
Maybe that was a Texans run game for a lot
of yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
I mean, at the end of the game, it made
Woody's numbers look much worse than that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
I just feel like, and you know what, I don't
know if it's is it Is it a comparison of
the personnel, Like would you say that the Chiefs and
Texans running back rooms currently constructed with Joe Mixon hurt
obviously are comparable.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Pachecko came back this week, I think, I mean, I
like Woody better than both Pachecko and Kareem Hunt. I
gotta give Hunt a little bit of credit. Yeah, he's
been much more successful the more they Nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Fears the Texans.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
It's not Jonathan Taylor's not walking through the door for
them or any other text. There's no Bjeon Robinson, there's
no And nobody fears the Chiefs running the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Right, but the chief they do fear Mahomes throwing the ball. Yeah,
he's coming off a game again. They lost. But he
threw for two hundred sixty yards, didn't have a turnover,
and threw for four touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
He ran out of time. Well, that's why keeping the
ball from him over the final three minutes is huge.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
And that's why what the text see this is why,
and I'm not again it comes off as sounding homer ific.
Plus that you add in the fact that the Texans
the Chiefs have basically had their number of late especially
in that building. But what did the Texans do again
yesterday in the first quarter? They had the ball the
whole time, They had the ball the whole time. What
else did they do in the first quarter? They scored first?

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Anything else? That was why. Matt Thomas impression.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
By the way, I don't know, opening long drive of
the game for the Texans after they forced that punt
second and four, oh illegal formation on the Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Gosh, the penalties were atrocious. And then how did they
end the first quarter?

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Blake Fisher reported is eligible nine yard run for Nick Nope,
offensive holding first and eighteen now CJ incomplete Adulton Nope
penalty on CJ legal forward pass as he was three
four yards past the line. Released second and twenty three
from the four, Nick Chubb up the middle for three Nope,
offensive holding which they had to decline because they were

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so close to the end zone already. Why make it
second and twenty five when you could.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
Have third and twenty See, like I say this every
week about this aspect of the Texans. I never in
a million years, and again it's his first time as
a head coach, but it's Tamiko. I never in a
million years thought one of the things I'd be saying
nearly three years in gosh, this team just doesn't look
disciplined at times because.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
That's and it's it's primarily offense.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
You don't get a lot of guys, I mean, did
Colls try to do it several times yesterday. You don't
get guys jumping off sides a ton on this defense.
It's part of what makes them so dominant. They're just
gonna and they know and JJ brought up a great
point about that. Look at how the guys walk up
to the line on fourth down, whether or not they're
gonna actually go for it, and listen to the cadence
of the quarterback, all that kind of stuff. They're very disciplined.

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Texans offense is not and it's not even like false
starts as much. As a matter of fact, I don't
know what the numbers are. I just feel like it.
I feel like it's more procedural lining up at least
all stuff. They had two of those and they it's
everybody too. No, there's no discrimination. Dalton Schultz does it all.

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At times, the left tack the same group of players.
When you're covering up the wrong guy, or when two
guys are in motion and they both don't reset, you know,
things that should never happen, which I do differentiate these
pre stat penalties.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
I really don't holding. Sometimes you do it, sometimes you don't.
Sometimes they see it, sometimes they don't. Sometimes the edge
rusher is so low to the ground when you touch him,
he falls, and the rest like, dude, how'd that guy
get on the ground. You must have tackled him. I'll
just throw the flag and that's a holding. They get
away with murder over there on these tackles who are
put on an island and all they're doing is making

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contact with these players. They're not holding them. And when
they drive them into the ground, well, he's already practically
on the ground. What do you want them to do?
Hold them up?

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
Ed Ingram made contact yesterday. It opened a hole.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Also, so many people so focused on he took Jermaine
Pratt off of his feet and onto his back, and
then the play went right into the opening that Pratt
otherwise would have been there for the tackle for you
can't clog that opening if you're on your backside. It's
about as good as a show them up. I mean
he didn't drive through him. He literally just shoved him
and shoved him straight off of his feet onto the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
You don't see that very often. I enjoyed every angle
of that, and there were several.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
They got to put the same five out there together.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
They were able to do what they wanted to do
with Blake Fisher again, and I think they just kind
of use them as a third tight end. Ian and
JJ did get into it a little and I was
explaining to somebody as well, like you put a tackle
eligible out there, Oh, Texans should just run right behind it.
They never run behind it ever. It's not there for
run blocking most of the time anyway. When they run

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it with the six linemen, they almost always run it
up the middle or to the opposite side of where
Fisher is, and it's normally it's really there for pass pro.
They throw out of that formation a ton. It limits
your targets, but it gives you time and the Texans receivers,
like anybody else in the league, they're gonna be open.
You can't stay with guys forever. And if you give
your quarterback time, you're going to make plays. And that's

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what the texts have been doing with the tackle eligible
for now about the last six or seven weeks. Halfway
through the third hour of the program means signature segment time.
We get to that next on a Monday, the good,
the bad. The signature segment time on a Monday for
thirty that means the good, the bad, the ugly from
the long weekend Wednesday we last spoke with you, So

(01:42:17):
Turkey Day, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and maybe anything that happened
before four thirty two on Monday. All fair game for
the good, the bad, and the ugly. I've got the bad,
Josh has the ugly, so as always, the sunniest person
on the program gets to deliver us the good the
good from you, please Ac.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
All right, I should have sent this to Josh earlier,
but I know everybody's heard it, so we'll know what
I was talking about. So you were watching just like
I was, as the Aggies did the most Aggie thing ever,
best season in like fifty years. Right, I've been amazing
this year. They're undefeated. All they gotta do is go

(01:42:59):
to Austin and win all they have to do. I know, right,
And look I'm not I'm not trying to say it
hasn't been a good year for the Aggies.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
I mean that season and decade, it still couldn't be
big brother.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Wow, listen to you sound like a longhorn that graduated
from there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
So do you remember when Mike Elko was making comments
about basically who the the best team in Texas is
in the conference?

Speaker 2 (01:43:31):
I'm paraphrase like, when.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
We talk about the Astros and Rockets and we're telling
people what we do as a broadcast partner of them,
what do we usually say? We are color commentators, not
us personally, our station as a whole.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Oh, we are the flagship flagship. Is that what he said?
The flagship?

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Okay, the flagship college football team of Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
That's Texas A and M. According to Mike Elcho earlier
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
U T waited until the waning seconds of that win
and played his comments on the big board in the stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
He's still down the sideline.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
And then they had somebody say psych and uh, everybody
just busted out and laughter.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
That's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Very much a typical social media move for the creative team.
It was like social media in person very much, and honestly,
that's just the way things are. It's it's a it's
a bit much, probably for some, but it's good. It's
first of all, it's good that this is now you're
with me. It's good you've had a game in an Austin.
Now you had the game in college station. Like people
that go to Texas currently, they're going to this game

(01:44:35):
at their university for the same for the first time ever.
People that go to Texas A and M currently are
going to this game against their rival at their venue,
on their campus for the first time. Because of how
long it's been away and they're starting, they're gonna get
a great understanding of what it's all about. I mean,
you know, Texas is a three loss team, but two

(01:44:56):
of their wins are against Oklahoma and Texas A and M,
both of whom are virtual locks to go to the postseason,
to go to the twelve team playoff, and I think
deservedly so in both cases. I mean, we could get
into what has Texas A and M done this year
when you want to say, well, who did they beat?
And you do have a hard time getting to a
good list other than Notre Dame, who's also in that

(01:45:16):
same who did they beat. But I think Texas A
and M shouldn't have any concern about being a team
that doesn't deserve to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
They absolutely deserve to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
They're definitely one of the you know, they're probably one
of the best eight teams in the country, let alone
one of the best twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
This rivalry game was great.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
I did not expect the Longhorns to do some of
the things they were able to do offensively. I definitely
thought they would be able to do some things defensively.
They also made read look bad. I thought maybe for
the good. Since you were really digging in on them
and going pro Longhorn, you were going to want to
hear from Mike Elko after the game.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Well, that's what I wanted to get to, and I
didn't know if we had it in the system.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I figured we didn't play.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
The way we needed to. Can we close the door
and run a professional press conference?

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Please, my gosh, don't worry, he's coming back to us.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
The best part of that isn't the obvious part. It's
the look around at the media that's assembled.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
He you can what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
The camera is so close on his eyes that you
can see him train his eyes on different people in
the room and then look to the person he was
trying to initially answer his question and say, sorry he
threw a fit. What did he think was gonna happen
in Austin? Well, I mean, he didn't think that it
was going to be that disruptive if they had lost
that game in college station. I'm I don't know a

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million up.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
Of where you are and where they're holding this auditorium, right,
I couldn't tell you what it looks like in Austin
for media.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Oh you know what, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
I'm thinking of an m where when you go to
a home game there win or lose, where the head
coach of the aggis, whomever he may be at that time.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Because it was two ago that I went.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
I think it was Kevin someone the last time I
went to an Aggie's home game.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
So it's very much away from anything home or away
locker rooms or any of that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
It's been.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
I don't even know if I've ever been to a
postgame press conference at UT. I've been to a game
as a press member. But I think I was in
the box and then I was shooting a stand up
and I was gone. It wasn't I didn't ever see
that setup, and they've probably changed it since then, since
they've done so many renovations to that stadium since the
last time I was in it as a press member.

Speaker 3 (01:47:31):
Yeah, all that being said, like Texas A and M
should be very happy. And for the fact that Mike
Elco is there, I think he's done a really nice
job so far. I think there are good things in
front of them, and you know, this is what they'd
been hoping for. They are absolutely, fully, totally competitive in
the SEC. They led the SEC the entire season, obviously
without a loss, hero among the teams tied for first,

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and then they were all alone in first because everybody
else had a loss. Tiebreakers did not allow them to
be in the conference title game. But they're in a
very very good position moving forward, and they moving forward,
they're not playing in the conference title game.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
GE's where they are playing the playoffs. Pretty good chance.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Their next game is in College Station as they host
an opening round game in the playoffs, So we shall
see what lies ahead for them. But by the way
football is definitely there.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
Ross brought this up earlier on the show, and again
he wasn't He wasn't gloating because honestly, he was talking
about why he didn't think Texas would get into the
college football playoff in this conversation in the course of it.
But I didn't realize this until he said it, and
I probably should. But again, I'm not the most astute
college football observer like I am with the pros. They

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haven't been to a college football conference championship game of
any kind since nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Is that accurate?

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Well again, they made the move to the SEC, which
was genius. No matter how many conference title games you
didn't appear in.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
And they win this game on on Friday, they're automatically
in said conference champions They.

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
Would have finished the season with an undefeated record in
the SEC, which would have done.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
That's the most aggie thing ever. Look why because I
mean it came in Austin against Texas. It could have
come at College Station. Remember the last time they were
at home? Remember the last time they played each other.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
I do Before all this this the sabbatical, I was
on the field. It's so long ago that Justin Tucker
was the kicker that walked them off in college station.

Speaker 2 (01:49:37):
You gotta try out this week he did not get hired. Well,
that's a whole other story.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
But I'm sorry, like the Aggies, if you want to
be taken seriously as whatever, I don't know what you
you fancy yourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
They were talking a lot of the playoffs, I know,
but I'll take them.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Be Texas if you're so good. I know it's on
the road. I know this and know that, but you
went to Notre Dame and you pulled that off. You
couldn't beat Texas. So sad.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Well, now you're making it sound like Texas stinks. You
couldn't beat Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
Well, I make it sound like that Texas was not
the preseason number one that they were all season long.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
I don't think they're getting a whole lot of number
one votes now that the regular season is over. Preseason
before he'd seen a thing, absolutely best team in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Arch looked good.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Arch did look good, especially over the second part of
the season. But I guess the good, bad and the
ugly was so awesome. We gotta save the bad and
the ugly for next segment.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
That's my fault.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
I got to put a bow on our signature segment
with the bad and the ugly. Josh Wall have the
ugly if you'll afford me the option of using bad
in a good way. And so that is a compa
you're a bad man. That means you're really good at
whatever it is you do. Right, I'm gonna use that

(01:50:55):
angle on that, and I'll lean on to Demico for
an assist.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
There. The Colts one time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
To throw at Derrek Stingley junior esday, fourth down, the
last offensive play they would run in the game was
not complete. Texans took over and never gave the ball
back and the game was over. Tamiko Ryans talked about
Sting's play there and in general things.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Done a great job all year.

Speaker 8 (01:51:17):
He's done a great job of, you know, just handling
his business, doing it the right way, working hard in practice,
showing up in games, and his opportunity to make plays.
He finds a way to make those plays.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
So he kept it pretty simple, goes about his business,
just takes care of his job, and you know, he
just goes about it the right way. Now that's typical
for him to say, said it many times over, and
we talked to his teammates all the time, especially you
know the young kids, Bullock and Kamari Laster. What if
he learned from him out you know, playing alongside of
him all these things. We've heard so many great things

(01:51:50):
from them, and they're in the room with him, they
know him better than everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
The funny thing is nobody knows him. He's very unique
in they a very unique individ But when I say
nobody knows him, I think everybody knows who he is.
So I go to a former teammate to really help
describe the bad man that he is. Scott Questenberry.

Speaker 3 (01:52:12):
He did play for the Texans if for many of
you that recall, spent a year and change with them
as a center, been around the team a little bit,
and he is someone I of course still follow on
social media at scootsye Q and yesterday he posted the
following after someone noted that he did not allow reception

(01:52:32):
on his twenty eight coverage snaps for the fifth time
he's allowed less than ten yards in coverage. He has
been the best cornerback in the NFL this year. So
scottie Q he quote tweeted this and said this guy,
Derek Stingley, man, let me tell you, he's gonna say
seven words during the week. Show up, eat his food
on the bus before the plane. Show up on Sunday,

(01:52:55):
clamp your best receiver, get on the bus, go to sleep,
and get ready to do it all over again in
a league of his own.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
Yeah, I mean you laughed because I actually, and I
didn't know at the time how hard it was to
get any words out of him. I got him to
say good morning Houston to the camera after the playoff one,
which is phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Now he has done some sit down interviews.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
Where he is a little bit more relaxed and a
little bit more comfortable kind of sharing his opinion on things,
usually over at his locker, even after he signed his
huge deal, even when he was at the podium after
signing his huge deal. In his family and his then
girlfriend who's now his fiance, who they are both now
expecting their first child, he's just a different person. He
is locked in on the game. When you ask him

(01:53:41):
about trash talking, he's like, I don't do that. I
don't talk to anybody. I don't talk to them, they
don't talk to me, And so terrifying that's the thing.
Derek Stingley Junior is terrifying. That is a great way
to put it, and he truly fits here. He is
a bad man. By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
This is going to sound sacrilege and in light of
everything that's happened since he's his playing days are behind him.
But that was the ultimate compliment that you would give
to Dion Sanders back in the day. You wouldn't even
throw it to his side of the field.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
It's what teams are doing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
And you know, both of the long or two of
the long catches that were actually in coverage was Kamari
and Kalen was coming over at the time. I think
he may have been a step late on each. They
were both to pierce, they were both on the opposite
side of the field. We just kind of ran through
the coverage snaps that he had twenty eight of them,
didn't allow reception on any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
It's just it's somewhat.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
I think the Chiefs are going to show that they
don't care and we'll find out if it comes back
to bite them. But they'll have enough confidence in their
quarterback where most teams won't that he's going to be able.
I mean, it's not impossible to complete a pass against
anybody in the NFL. It's a very very difficult position
to play. You're already you're in a defensive, literal defensive position.

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The offense knows where he's going, the quarterback knows where
the ball needs to go.

Speaker 2 (01:55:03):
You don't. It's tough. He's that awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
I expect the Chiefs to challenge him, and I think
it'll be to their detriment. But we got to get
to the ugly. Josh, you're here for many reasons. This
is one of them. What's the ugly?

Speaker 7 (01:55:17):
Ooh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
Can I give you the Minnesota Vikings?

Speaker 8 (01:55:21):
Mine?

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Lord?

Speaker 10 (01:55:22):
This was a bad game, getting shut out twenty six
to nothing, Max Bromer bros Mur was so poor that
you're thinking maybe JJ McCarthy's not that bad. I mean,
just awful, awful game. And if you drafted Justin Jefferson
in Fantasy in the first round, you know what I'm
talking about. How does two catchers for four yards sound? Oh,
that sounds just terrific.

Speaker 4 (01:55:42):
There.

Speaker 10 (01:55:43):
I will say, if you start at Seattle, you're feeling good,
but four and eight, that's where the Vikings are at
right now, feels completely over for them, they got to
see what they've got for next season. And you know,
based on all the predictions before this year, we didn't
think they would be this bad.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that about fantasy because
I remember that night and I don't I think I
just missed. I really think he might have been picked
one or two spots ahead of me in our fantasy draft.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
But I remember thinking, that's not the same pick.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
If JJ McCarthy isn't, like even a fraction is good
as Sam Donald was, that hasn't usually mattered.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
That drafted before Jackson Smith and Jigma, sam Donald's new
favorite receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Honestly, I probably do yep, but everybody told you to.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Yeah, you didn't know that JJ McCarthy's gonna be quite
this incapable. He's also missed a ton of times, so
now you're counting on Carson Wentz and now you're counting
on Brosmer. And there was a play in particular in
the game that really shined a light on how far
down the depth art they are.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
But they got shut out, didn't score any points. They had.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
Again, these analytics that some pay attention to on others don't.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
I'm playing him this week. I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
This was according to certain advanced calculations on your performance,
it was the worst offensive day in the franchises history.
Yesterday's twenty six nothing lost to the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Well, listen, I don't know looking back, if anyone will
ever admit to it, But I've brought this up all
season because it's fascinating to me. You were, you were
in a pickle, but you put yourself in that pickle
by drafting JJ McCarthy. And then I know that he
didn't play because of injury, so you didn't count on that.

(01:57:25):
But how much did they pay Sam Donald for that
one year? Good, but not nearly the money that he's
now getting, so essentially franchise without franchising him.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
It was far less than that. Okay, oh yeah, so
he made himself money obviously, Oh, he made a huge
amount of money.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
So he was in San Francisco kind of figuring out
how to be a quarterback again. And he's continued to
credit his time there for what he has since become.

Speaker 1 (01:57:49):
Like don't you think and I know we're talking about
injecting truth serum into both parties here, but don't you
think Sam Donald would have stayed there if they wanted
him to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
Oh do you think he would have led? Truth serum,
This is a that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
Yeah, if they would have committed to him, which they
I guess they had the built in excuse of not
doing it because they drafted a young kid because of
how the season ended.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
Oh yeah, well yeah, and look, that might happen again
this year, but I doubt it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
Seattle's he had another one of those games though, just
a week ago, and he had backing him up and saying, hey,
if you don't think Sam's our guy, then you can
go bleep yourself. We got his back. He yet we
didn't have a good day as the team's not on
him all.

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
You see the James Harden of the NFL. As the
season gets on and then the playoffs begin, he sucks. Well,
by the way, James Harden's totally going to ask for
a trade in the next five minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
He's not having those games because he's so bad at it.
He's having those games because, well, look what happens when
you don't give him any protection.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
He makes bad decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Well that's any quarterback, though, That's what's happened in some
of the game Jay Stroud, your your favorite NFL announcer
that doesn't work here in Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:58:56):
Wanted to add one more ugly item.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
To the Minnesota perform Okay, so we'll give that to
you in football at five when we come back.

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
Is that music can only mean one thing. It's time
for football at five. We were just discussing the plight
of the Minnesota Vikings in the last segment.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Now one game left for this week in the NFL,
Texans are the best team in the league that's not
inside the playoff picture.

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
They said at seven.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
And five they would hold the eighteenth pick in the
draft if it were held in the next few minutes.
Hopefully that will change and they'll bump into that group
between nineteen and thirty two as they have been in
the last two seasons as a playoff team.

Speaker 2 (01:59:40):
May or may not make that selection.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
Traded out of it two years ago and ended up
with a first selection of Kamari Lassiter, traded out of
it one year ago and ended up with a first
selection of Jayden Higgins. We'll see what they decide to
do this year. Knowing that they also have two additional
first round or second round picks coming from the Giants.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Who are to and ten.

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
That's the second worst record in the league one from
the Commanders.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
They're three and nine.

Speaker 3 (02:00:07):
That's tied for the fifth borst mark in the league
and could still be getting worse. They've lost seven in row.
The Giants have lost six in a row. Giants are
one of the two teams playing tonight. They play the Patriots.
Patriots trying to reassume the position atop the AFC. They
currently have the same record as the Broncos, but they
will be looking to extend what is the same winning
streak as well. They've both have won ninth straight. They're

(02:00:29):
looking for a number ten in a row. Tonight, Vikings
fell to four and eight. Might not have their quarterback
of the future, even though he'll only be going into
his third season, been injured in both of them. He's
cleared the concussion protocol, by the way, so JJ McCarthy
is likely to start next week, which means the voice

(02:00:49):
of Minnesota Vikings football, the explosive, loud and angry violent
of Minnesota Vikings football. Paul Allen can go back to
just being disgusted by JJ McCarthy rather than his latest replacement,
Max Brosmer. Now they were already being shut out. They're
already in a little bit of a hole. The game
had not gotten away from them yet. And on a

(02:01:11):
fourth and one play, they're very, very, very inexperienced quarterback.
He made an error in judgment when he was scrambling
and decided to throw the ball while he was going
down underhanded into a group of players who were wearing
the other team's jerseys, and they were in the They
were in the scoring zone, if you will, They were
very close to the end zone at the time. Sounded

(02:01:33):
like this, and you can tell even the home announcer,
he calls it like he sees it.

Speaker 11 (02:01:39):
He gets fourth and one snap, rosmer Rose out to
the right, He's in trouble.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
He's gonna pro the call up.

Speaker 11 (02:01:46):
A decisions prosner. This he's going to be a defensive touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
Put a Seattle Seahawks hits turn this Jones stop more pick.

Speaker 11 (02:01:58):
At first touchdown of his career and Seattle has.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
Taken a nine zero lead.

Speaker 11 (02:02:05):
Max Bruiser coming to the field, decided to underhanded to
absolutely nobody except Luis Jones.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
I was played in studio of a talk show post game,
so you heard a little bit of the laughter in there.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
I love Paul Allen.

Speaker 1 (02:02:22):
I love it when he's winning, when his team is winning,
I love him when his team is losing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Clearly, he decided to throw it underhanded to absolutely no
one except for Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
It's just that is that he called it very accurately. Yes,
he was going to play round and he's a right
handed quarterback. He was running to his right.

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
The ball's up above his shoulder like it should be
to throw a pass, and he scoops underneath it and
throw as he's falling down. It's just going to be
a sack.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
Well, the team's just going to get the ball there,
or there's going to be an incomplete pass and they're
going to get the ball to the previous lot of scrimmage.
He throws an interception for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (02:02:58):
How about the fact that CJ almost did that yesterday?
And in what instance when he threw it? Now he
was going to his left, which is a little bit
more difficult, And I believe it was the linebacker that
he did get a hand on it, but he didn't
catch it because it was thrown low. But if he had,
he likely outruns whomever was in front of him. I

(02:03:21):
can't I know it was in the second half, but
JJ Watt even talked about the fact that you can
see as soon as he released the ball he started
running in that direction because he thought the linebacker was
going to intercept it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
As per usual.

Speaker 3 (02:03:33):
CJ's biggest issues that I have normally are with his
inability to lose less than I don't know, ten yards
on a sack. He averaged ten yards lost on his
two sacks yesterday David Not on the first on a
second down play and then very typically third and long
obvious passing situation. They were in the red zone at
the time, at the fourteen yard line and he drops

(02:03:54):
back to pass. There's nobody open. Here comes the pass rush.
Oh must be time first been moving, run backwards and
get caught and lose eleven yards again Kaimi's range. You're
not gonna run out of Kaimi's range. It's totally unnecessary.
Almost all of these excessive, large lost yard sacks that

(02:04:15):
he takes and still takes.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
He said it himself. You heard it today.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
I don't have to be superman out there, exactly, don't.
Somebody's drying him as often as you do. Just sack
twice was hit just a few other times. There was
one play in particular after he got rid of the football,
where the defensive lineman was already at his feet but
the ball was already gone. I think the defensive lineman
knew it, but it's hard to say. He grabbed him
by the foot and twisted his leg which forced CJ

(02:04:41):
down to the ground. Absolutely should have been a penalty
there for the timing of it. It was just so much
after the ball had been released that I'm very surprised
they didn't. But the sack in that instance did not
cost them points. They took their seven point lead, which
they held for zero upcoming drives that was preceding the
touchdown pass to Tyler Warren. Went to the fourth quarter

(02:05:04):
all tied up. Texans got the first score of the
fourth the Nico Collins run. We're okay with some of
the Texans creativity in the red zone. That was first
in goal from the seven Nico Collins seven yard touchdown
run earlier in the game, not extremely early in the

(02:05:24):
game when they went into the red zone and did
not score a touchdown, but the first play after Nico's
reception that brought it to the four, first and goal
from the four pitched it to Nick Chubb and he
scored a touchdown as well. Their very first snap on
first and goal in both of those drives resulted in touchdowns,

(02:05:45):
which is very foreign to the Texans this year. But
they are trending in the right direction. So you're asking
if I approved of the celebration. No, I'm asking you
for five. As Demiko, I think acknowledged today that they're
doing things more ordinary. Well, he definitely said that specific
to out of the ordinary is something you mentioned when

(02:06:06):
talking about their red zone improvements.

Speaker 8 (02:06:08):
For us, as a coaches staff, we're willing to do
whatever it takes to try to improve and we won't
continue to do the same things. I feel like they've
done a really good job offensively of you know, adding
some non traditional type plays and the red zone to
put us in position to score.

Speaker 2 (02:06:25):
I would call a run for Nico a non traditional play.

Speaker 1 (02:06:28):
Non traditional type play. I thought you were when you
started that sentence. I thought you were going to talk
about Nico's wave to the camera, because there were two
very distinct celebrations yesterday. One after Nico in that aforementioned
creative offensive play call to get him into the end zone.

(02:06:50):
Did Cam bind them do the rkle dance. He did.

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
I shouldn't have, you know, I became I saw it
after the fact and saw the connection made to it
on social media. I would have otherwise missed it. I
was not locked in like that, and he it was
funny if you were paying attention. At the end of
the game, he and CJ.

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
I don't know. I think he sought out CJ.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
They had a little friendly exchange because I just I
don't know what was said, and I couldn't hear it
on the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
I'm pretty sure that that was part.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
Of the brief discussion because you could see they were
both laughing about it, which it's easier for CJ to
laugh after he gets the last laugh, so to speak.
But yeah, I mean he liked the past to him, right,
he did, and it was a very long one. But yeah, good,
good celebration there. It is a little much these days.

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
The better celebration was when the Texans I believe it
was the Rankins sack He and Demiico Ryans mocked or
he and Will Anderson Junior mocked Demiko's celebration, which they
had just been shown the week before when they were
playing on Thursday Night Football. Part of their pregame coverage
was talking to some of the players and showing them

(02:08:00):
old footage of Demiko and Kamari and Kalen of course,
were doing their interview together, and they're like, oh my god,
he was bald even back then, probably showing Bama footage.
He obviously did not have hair then. He didn't have
hair here what they were kind of thrown off by that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
Have you ever seen a picture of Demiko with hair? Oh?
I mean haven't.

Speaker 3 (02:08:21):
I'm sure he had some as a pre college child.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
I don't think so. I think he came out that
way and just stayed that way. I think it's been
scrapped from the internet. That's what it feels like. Well,
that's all.

Speaker 3 (02:08:32):
It all goes into the simplicity of well, this guy
looked at the day got hired here looks the same
as he did when he played here.

Speaker 2 (02:08:40):
I mean he does.

Speaker 1 (02:08:40):
He didn't look like he's aged a bit and looks
like he could throw on the pads and probably get
you ten tackles.

Speaker 4 (02:08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:08:47):
A couple of those defensive players had seen some of
his celebrations in a Bama uniform, and they they tritted
it out after one of their bigger plays did a
good job against Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
We kind of went through that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:08:58):
Tomko was asked about that today, about how they slowed
Taylor to a certain extent and the impact that might
have had on, you know, what Indianapolis might have wanted
to do, And I think it is simple as it sounds.
Indianapolis can't do who they want to be if he's
not out there doing what he normally does.

Speaker 8 (02:09:18):
He's a tough back. I thought our guys did a
really good job of tackling. That's what allowed us to
really stop the run, not allowing those guys to get
over one hundred yards.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
It was how we tackle.

Speaker 8 (02:09:27):
Everybody tackled really well, from our safeties, linebackers, Delman, and
if one guy missed, my guys were still there.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
We swam the football, did a really good job of tackling.
Super simple.

Speaker 3 (02:09:39):
He's dead on if you're watching the game, that's literally
exactly what happened. He had a couple of instances where
he was in the middle of the pile, had run
through between the tackles and looked like he was about
to emerge, but he couldn't because there was somebody else there.
There are a bunch of one on one plays made
outside the edges. First play of the game, as a
matter of fact, Aziz was right there. First pass of

(02:09:59):
the game was to Taylor uh coming out in the flat,
and he buried him immediately. Well one yard game and
he threw him to the turf. That's what you need
to do to make sure tackles. They weren't looking to
hit him hard. They were looking to tackle him and
that was smart.

Speaker 1 (02:10:14):
Especially in light of Travis Kelsey's playoff game against the Texans.
This might sound insane to say, but I feel like
the way for Patrick Mahomes to beat the Texans if
he's going to is over the top next week, and
I invite him to throw it Derek Stingly, I really
want him to badly or Fortson right there, Johnny on
the Spot gives us a picture of Demiico Ryan's with hair.

(02:10:37):
It's got to be in high school there, Oh, Ryan, No,
Ryan's He didn't send us a picture of himself.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
That was funny.

Speaker 3 (02:10:43):
I was actually texting Ryan when you said shout out Ryan.
I was like, how does he know what I'm doing?

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
You're Ryan? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
Not this Ryan, Yeah, there's a lot of Ryan's involved
here very much, so first and last names. Yeah, So
he looks like he went to Lufkin in this picture.
Plus he's got the Ridell patch on his jersey, so
you know it's old. It's like me rolling around with
a Robert or Champion replica Rockets jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:11:07):
Or like you wearing a Starter jacket. This isn't Starter,
but it gives the appearance of one. I'm telling you
what and I want to say this.

Speaker 1 (02:11:14):
I saw it because you know it's Black Friday slash
Cyber Monday deals starter Rockets jacket with the old logo.
You guys can go ahead and bring that back anytime
you want, because I'll be giving you my money. So
that's one sold, and then Wexel buy one obviously obviously
josh ollbuy one like they've got an Astros one right now.

(02:11:34):
And the back has the classic like eighty six logo
with a dome. It's blue with orange and the white.
It's the it's the prototypical Starter windbreaker. We went to
junior high and high school in the nineties. If you're
my age jacket, and I remember seeing Rockets ones everywhere
because that was the mid nineties when they won right

(02:11:55):
before you know, they changed their logo and then they
came out with the stupid blue one. But because I
had the starter version of that too, but it wasn't
as good because it didn't have the ketchup and mustard
logo what they won in So anyways, they need to
make one. That's what my point of all.

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
This was dunch or not Eunie's tonight tonight in Utah.
We went through that a little bit. There's a couple
of road dates they'll be wearing.

Speaker 2 (02:12:16):
What are the other ones? I'd have to look them up.
I don't and didn't bring that to this year.

Speaker 1 (02:12:23):
No, it wasn't recreated, not recreated, it's just created once relaunched.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
There you go, relaunched. Hey did I brought it up briefly?

Speaker 1 (02:12:31):
Did you see James harden All but demand to trade
out of Los Angeles?

Speaker 4 (02:12:37):
Not?

Speaker 2 (02:12:37):
I did not see that too.

Speaker 3 (02:12:38):
He didn't say it, but so then he didn't demand
to trade.

Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
We've seen a the expression on his face be the
body language. I mean, it's just a matter of time
until a fat suit gets put back on. This guy
wants out of clip or Land so badly, and it
could not have happened to a better guy. He's I'm
pair of ra because I saw the video. It's probably
a couple of nights ago. He's just he's basically saying

(02:13:05):
it's not working. It's this version of what did he
say here before he left with his fat suit on?
I can't no, that was Tracy McGrady. That was Tracy
McGrady after the loss of Utah.

Speaker 7 (02:13:17):
I just can't.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
I tried. No, what did he say that it's not working?
It's not working here gonna work?

Speaker 1 (02:13:23):
Yeah, And then DeMarcus Cousins got up to the podium
and just filied him.

Speaker 3 (02:13:28):
Will you remember back when James was popping thirty four
points per game with the Rockets as recently his twenty
nineteen twenty twenty. He's averaging more points per game this
year than in any year since then.

Speaker 2 (02:13:42):
Yay, he's carrying them and total losses.

Speaker 3 (02:13:44):
What I gotta defend if I have two players, one
of whom shows up every night and the other one
shows up when he feels like it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:53):
James is the good one in that scenario. And you
remember last week.

Speaker 3 (02:13:56):
Oh my god, fifty five as hard on a fifty
five point game?

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (02:14:03):
He scored fifty five points in a victory over the Hornets.
He's played four games since. In those four games, he's
shot thirty one, forty two, thirty three and twenty nine percent,
and they've lost all four of them.

Speaker 1 (02:14:16):
I sent it to you, if you want to play
it off spmputer. Well, look, he is, I know it
in my phone. Still, well, play it? It's good you
mean like holding my phone up? No, I mean I
thought if you could bring it up on that computer,
you could be able. I can bring it up on
this computer, and then I can record it. Then I
can edit it in a different software system, and then
I can load it into our computer system. Then I

(02:14:37):
can double click it and get it to put up
there in audition, and then I hit the space bar.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
It's good to go.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
Well, that just made my eyes cross. Essentially, though, he
and I'm making fun. He is carrying them right now. No, no,
there's no question nobody so Bradley Beal died. Kawhy's like
his usual.

Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
Is he playing it? I wouldn't even be playing really,
it just not every No, just has missed a few
too many games.

Speaker 1 (02:15:02):
Have you ever seen somebody steal so much money? I'm seriously.
I'm ever.

Speaker 3 (02:15:07):
He brought a title to every team he's played for,
but one. This one, right, well steal I'll just keep it.
I'll keep it as a Clipper. He didn't steal money
as a spur. He didn't steal money as a raptor. Yeah,
he's stolen a lot of mean Bomber's money. If he's
got a lot of it to steal, well, I don't

(02:15:29):
think he's getting a return on his investment. This is
his seventh season as a member of the Clippers organization.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
That's crazy to think about.

Speaker 3 (02:15:37):
Wait, two seasons, then he missed an entire season, and
then four sins seven total?

Speaker 2 (02:15:45):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (02:15:46):
I am no, no, no, Because Kawhi was in Toronto in nineteen.

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
Twenty eighteen twenty nineteen one season.

Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
I guess I thought it was six tops, maybe five.
My math is fuzzy. He's really been for seven years
stealing Steve Bomber's money, that is correct.

Speaker 3 (02:16:04):
I uh, flirting with an NBA championship each time win
never Okay, I just played an eleven Uh, I know
he's playing. If he's playing a few Clippers playoff games.
I've seen that body language.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
The the way he's looking at the reporter as the
reporter is asking the question, I'm talking about James Harden.

Speaker 2 (02:16:27):
No, right switch twenty one, twenty two games in for
most teams? Who needs him? Who wants him? Where's he going?

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
That's not about that though, it's who can afford him.
He didn't take a pay cut, and don't forget. Don't forget.
And this is very important, and this is why you
should actually love imy Udoka more than you already do.

Speaker 2 (02:16:45):
And I know you do. But the thirteen and four Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:16:48):
Rockets were flirting with bringing James Harden back. Now, they
weren't thirteen and four when they were flirting. They were,
they were good, but they were he was gonna be
like a piece to the puzzle. And this is before
I think this was before Fred and Dylan, was it not?

Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
Yes? And he's yeah, so this was before and it
got good.

Speaker 1 (02:17:08):
Yeah, this was EMA's first season, right, And but e
May's definitely in charge because James walked in. And I've
had more than one person telling me this conversation happen.
It's not a it's not folklore, it's not an urban legend.
He asked, James Harden, what's your idea of the offense,
and James Harden said to him and I quote, I
am the offense. Well look how that's working out for

(02:17:31):
you in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (02:17:32):
It's accurate. He is the offense.

Speaker 3 (02:17:34):
Well, not here, He's not right in LA and where
he wants to play at this stage of his career.
Wherever that is, he he thinks that is the end.

Speaker 1 (02:17:41):
And make no mistake, he wanted to come back here
and he thought I guess he thought Darryl Moury was
still running the show. Now that's not a shot at Daryl,
it's just facts. Darryl and everybody that was in charge
when that was happening eventually let James Harden to facto
run the Houston Rockets, and I guess he thought that
was just I think he thought that, and I think

(02:18:05):
a lot of the fan base actually did, more people
than he thought was going to be the case, wanted
him to come back and just pick up where he
left off as if nothing had happened. By the way,
that's a lot to just kind of shelve. You know,
you're gonna get that shelved when they retire your jersey,
and even I'll admit that they should just because he's

(02:18:25):
the second all time leading scorer in franchise history and
things like that. But make no mistake, they're retiring your
jersey for a bunch of at the end of the day,
empty stats. He never won anything here, and he famously
vanished multiple times in big time, bright light situations here.

Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
Yeah, I mean, though that you believe, that's still pretty
harsh considering the why they didn't win anything here, Like
at the very least, a Western Conference title was more
than within their grasp. It was they were clutching it.
They were on their way, and then we know if
they would have done that, they would have won the
NBA Championship that year. He did things that should have
had them in that position more often and had more

(02:19:07):
consistent If they weren't playing Golden State in the playoffs,
they should have been on the conference finals every single time,
where they then could have met Golden Stay.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
There's nobody else. The State doesn't exist.

Speaker 3 (02:19:15):
They've got multiple sayings they shouldn't have lost to anybody
else in the playoffs, while he.

Speaker 1 (02:19:20):
Including the stupid Spurs, which is why I bring this up.

Speaker 2 (02:19:23):
It's Game seven at home, but you disappeared.

Speaker 3 (02:19:26):
He's about a forty one million dollar player, forty ish
million dollar player this year, a little more next year.
Signed a two year, eighty one million dollar deal. In
two weeks he becomes trade eligible. Okay, how about this.
He's definitely not coming here. If you guys are just
kind of plucking into the late stages of this talk,
we're not talking about James to the Rockets ever again.

Speaker 2 (02:19:47):
Okay, but I'm about to right now. We haven't been talking,
and now we are.

Speaker 1 (02:19:52):
If he were to be bought out by the Clippers again,
you just you're the one that just got done saying
how much money Steve Bomber has, So don't laugh.

Speaker 2 (02:20:00):
It's happened before.

Speaker 1 (02:20:02):
And because of that, you had the option to get
him on the cheap.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
Which it would have to be. The Rockets don't.

Speaker 1 (02:20:10):
Well they probably have some cap space, but they don't.
They can't commit max dollars to him, and they wouldn't anyways,
he's thirty six. Like you said, he does solve the
position that you think you're deficient at with Fred.

Speaker 2 (02:20:22):
But your your choices are too have to wait till
you're finished, right, I have to.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
Your choices are letting read continue this very slow, very
very steady climb up the charts or bring back James
and potentially ruin what you've got going here. This is
a no brainer, right, you beat it, James, you don't
do it. You don't ever even let him sniff Houston again.
He can live here, he can't come in the building.

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They're not trading for James Harden.

Speaker 3 (02:20:48):
They're not signing him when he becomes a free agent,
when he gets bought out, not playing here ever again.

Speaker 2 (02:20:54):
Sorry you hear that Rockets face? Sorry people, I'm fine
with it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:20:57):
That's how things are just gonna be. And the night
they retires, Jersey, you can work that game. So, in
case you missed it, James Harden is not becoming a Rocket.
In case you missed it is also.

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
Next go back from the holiday weekend. Hope you guys enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (02:21:09):
All of the things that go along with your Turkey
Day family friends, pieball, that's the.

Speaker 2 (02:21:17):
Food part of it. Did you eat pie?

Speaker 3 (02:21:19):
I did eat pie? What kind was pumpkin and a
smidge of sugary pumpkin pie of pecan pie? Okay, it's acceptable,
that's good. I'm glad you are okay with that chocolate
cream pie. Very Thanksgiving me, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (02:21:37):
I gained ten pounds.

Speaker 3 (02:21:40):
That's someone at my second meal say, man, I feel
like I've put on so much weight just these last
couple of days and certainly tonight, Like, that's not the
end of the world.

Speaker 2 (02:21:52):
That's what I said. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:21:53):
That was your version of it's fine to him, uh
or her or her. Although it's not the end of
the world about gaining weight to a woman is very
much more. I would think something you would say to
a woman thinking you were being complimentary, and then have
them turn around and say.

Speaker 2 (02:22:11):
What do you mean, It's not the end of the world.

Speaker 3 (02:22:13):
It's well, it definitely should not be seen that way
as I'm being sexist right now. No, I think the
comment was heard and understood as it should have been.

Speaker 2 (02:22:22):
But it was her. Oh nice. It was not a
derogatory comment. Who was it? Name names?

Speaker 3 (02:22:31):
I mean, it made sense to me, and it made
sense to her that I said it, So I think
it was pretty pretty obvious. It was pretty obvious, was
it Samantha. No, not that young, not someone who's roughly
my age either, and not somebody that would be talking
about gaining ten pounds. I didn't say it's my fucking number.
She's adorable, right. She enjoyed Thanksgiving? Of course she did,

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because Friday was awesome. Left almost immediately after she would
make her way to uh who got Austin which one
of our daughters got a insert blank you know their
names shaped hole through the door, faster to get out
the door to go back to Austin to watch that game.

Speaker 2 (02:23:10):
I don't want to go back so early, well except
they do.

Speaker 3 (02:23:13):
Definitely not going to miss this, so it was awesome again,
a full weekend of it. I drove up to Waco
and back Saturday for the regular season finale for the Cougars.

Speaker 2 (02:23:24):
It was the season finale for Baylor. They've been awful
this year, but Bobby Champions don't have enough money to
buy out Dave Randa, so they kept him after their
ad was you're not going to work here anymore. Yeah,
was at McClain Stadium. He was Nahina and that jad.

Speaker 3 (02:23:39):
They really have a nice venue, y soup, the nicest
press box of the year on the road by far.
We could have add a fifty person broadcast team also
do it. I think it's been redone newer than anybody else,
which great Cougar's as the Texans like to say they
finished after they let Baylor score fifteen in the fourth
quarter to come back the final touchdown, and then we're

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able to run the clock out after they thwarted a
Baylor attempt to win the game, so they got their
ninth win. They'll await their bowl assignment, which might not
have them leaving the state of Texas. A lot of
people think the Alamo Bowl could be their next stop,
and others think the Texas Bowl might be the next
in line for the Cougars. They'll have their signing day
later this week and after the conference title games, we'll

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find out a little bit more about that. But in
case you missed it, there may be a few other
items worth a revisit or an introduction here.

Speaker 2 (02:24:29):
That's what it's for, Josh. What do we have today?

Speaker 10 (02:24:33):
Okay, guys, we know a huge game coming up this
week between the Chiefs and the Texans, and Andy Reid
with kind of some strange comments here to Dave skretta
the Associated Press, he said, if you're coming to me,
we're going to go after you every game, and that's
how we roll. Okay, fair enough, then we're going to
tickle your tonsils on every play every game. But that's

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the attitude we're coming with. And then you let the
chips fall where they may tickling your tonsils.

Speaker 2 (02:24:58):
What are we think of it?

Speaker 3 (02:24:59):
Well, first of all, there is a zero point zero
percent chance we will have any more full shows without
that audio if it exists, because we have to have it.

Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
I imagine if you told the AP that maybe this
was his Monday availability, maybe it was his postgame commentary
after a Thanksgiving or some time in between. But if
this was said, and the audio can be captured, we
must have it from any coach.

Speaker 3 (02:25:22):
It would be good. It must have from Andy Reid.
It sounds delicious, so I hopefully we will get to
hear it.

Speaker 2 (02:25:29):
But any reed.

Speaker 1 (02:25:29):
Makes me want to eat cheeseburgers. By the way, of
course that's what he wants to do.

Speaker 3 (02:25:33):
So good right now, the Chiefs are not going to
act like they aren't who they've always been. Their record
says they're not. The way that they're losing this year
says they're not. But they will go out there and
play a game like they're not. And that's what you
have to worry about each week. They're not losing games
because they just they're not showing up and they're not
playing their kind of football. They're just not quite as

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good at it. But they have to get They still
have to get beaten. You have to go in there
and beat them, and that's what the Texans have to do.
Very much like what they said in their immediate postgame
comments in the locker room before the media jumped in there,
and Demikos saying we got what we came here for,
they should clearly have that same mindset going to Kansas City.
They've come there many times before and not gotten what

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they've come for. They've gone to Indy in the CJ.
Dimico era and they get it every time. Going to
Indianapolis and winning is something they've already done.

Speaker 2 (02:26:24):
It's just what they do. It's what they just means
more in Indy.

Speaker 3 (02:26:27):
But going to Kansas City and winning is not that
would actually wait, what they do?

Speaker 2 (02:26:31):
What else do we have?

Speaker 10 (02:26:32):
Okay, earlier I heard you guys talking about what was
Demiko's thoughts on what they were actually trying to do
at the end of the first half or they're trying
to get points.

Speaker 2 (02:26:40):
Well, here's what Dimiko had to say about it today.

Speaker 8 (02:26:43):
We are trying to get points. We didn't execute how
we wanted to execute. It ended and a half. If
we get the first down, we were in a good
spot there, want to finish vertical there at the Higgins
uh did a great job of catching the football.

Speaker 7 (02:26:57):
Well, we got a finish vertical, get the.

Speaker 8 (02:26:58):
First down there, then we're imposition to go in and
try to get points.

Speaker 3 (02:27:03):
Kind of what I had mentioned earlier, and he was
describing what did not happen. That's a little bit further
down the drive than you should have gotten to anyway.
I mean that ball was snapped with twenty four seconds
left and you're at the forty five yard line, your
own forty five yard line. That put you into Indianapolis
territory with less than twenty seconds left.

Speaker 2 (02:27:24):
I'd already burned a minute thirty.

Speaker 3 (02:27:26):
So yes, he should have turned up field, gone north,
gotten the first down, after which you would have called
your last time out and had a very small number
of plays to run at the sidelines to hope to
get your field goal unit on the field and kick it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:42):
By the way, you mentioned the play to Nico that
should have been a touchdown. It was Nico's fault. It
was That's not the first time during this stretch, and
obviously that includes Davis Mills games where would be touchdown plays,
whether they be the catch not being made in the
end zone or you know a situation like yesterday with

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Nico where he steps out of bounds inadvertently.

Speaker 2 (02:28:06):
They have left points on the table.

Speaker 1 (02:28:08):
So even though it looks like this offense has struggled,
which I guess by definition it has because you didn't,
it's it's it's like.

Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:28:19):
I don't want to call them fake points, but like
there's a lot of touchdowns that have been left on
the table and that should have been. They're not the
team stopped you, you stopped yourself, basically, and a lot
of that's red zone.

Speaker 2 (02:28:31):
This was game twelve.

Speaker 3 (02:28:32):
They had three hundred and sixty four yards of offense
one through twelve. Where do you think that ranks in
the total yardage ranking of their twelve games? Three hundred
and sixty year yards the upper fourth number four. Okay,
only three other times more yards than that.

Speaker 2 (02:28:51):
Yeah, but they.

Speaker 3 (02:28:52):
Had twenty points. It's about scoring, not going up and
down the field and not scoring, and they do go
up and down the field. That's the crazy part. Even
with Davis Mills they go up and down the field.
Stop kicking field goals. Yeah for twelve with Davis against
Jacksonville's number.

Speaker 1 (02:29:08):
Like I've said this even during the Kubiak era, stop
kicking field goals, put touchdown.

Speaker 2 (02:29:13):
I want sixes instead of threeses.

Speaker 3 (02:29:14):
He did go for US fourth and one late in
the game and third and one threes, and they failed
in both instances. We'll hear Demiko's thoughts on that later
this week.

Speaker 1 (02:29:25):
Right now, on Monday, December first, with obviously nearly the
entire week to go, How are you feeling about this
game in Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (02:29:36):
I feel pretty good about it, considering the way that
they've played both before and after CJ.

Speaker 2 (02:29:40):
Stroud's participation.

Speaker 3 (02:29:42):
The last three weeks, they played a little bit different
style of very close to the vest offensive play calling.
We're not going to put Davis in bad situations and
convert and I guess conjunctively, he didn't put the team
in bad situations. If you recall, these last three games
for the Texans were simple in the most simple way.

Speaker 2 (02:30:01):
Don't give the other team the football.

Speaker 3 (02:30:03):
You don't give the other team additional opportunities or really
short fields or just flat out points, right, then and there,
I'll win. You turn the ball over, it's gonna be
tough for them to beat you. Texans gave the ball
away twice in the Jacksonville game his first start, Davis's
first start. He threw the interception on his third pass
and they fumbled in the game, and that was it

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for the remainder of that game. For each of the
two games that followed, including the big Thursday Night went
over Buffalo, they did not give the ball away and
they did not lose. Texans lost the turnover battle yesterday.
They've lost the turnover battle in only three games this year.
This is the first time they've won one of those games.
It was only won nothing because the CJ interception. But

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that is again the super duper simplistic way to win
a football game. And the Chiefs and the Texans are
different in certain regards this year when it comes to
two turnovers. In terms of takeaways, the Texans have taken
the ball away nineteen times, right where they were before
yesterday's game because they didn't have any, and they've given
it away just ten times. Chiefs have given away only

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eight times. Those are two of the top seven teams
in taking care of the football the Texans and the Chiefs.
Back to the takeaways. Texans are fifth in takeaways. The
Kansas City Chiefs are twenty sixth in takeaways. They've only
taken the ball away ten times. They come off of
a game where the Cowboys scored thirty one points against them.

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The Chiefs last year, which could not they their team
just would not lose. Their defense was great.

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
Not this year. Their defense is not as bad as
the first numbers suggest. They're little.

Speaker 3 (02:31:43):
They're probably between outside the top ten, but not in
the back half of the league, so different ways to
measure it. I've probably put them somewhere between nine and
thirteen overall as a defense. They're not one of the elite,
but they're okay. But if they don't take the ball
away from you, and Texas are very good at not
having the ball taken away from them. Yep, if you

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change your question to how do you feel about the
Texans in Kansas City? If I told you just the
turnover game is even I don't think the Texans are
going to lose in Kansas City if they don't lose
the turnover battle.

Speaker 1 (02:32:15):
Now, I was just about to say it might be
as simple as winning the turnover battle. You win the
game in a game like this because of who you're
talking about with regards to protecting possessions and aligned with
the fact that they just hang out of the ball
so long. If you're dominating time of possession and you're

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not giving away extra possessions, then that sounds like a
pretty good recipe for me, because you're keeping Patrick Mahomes
on the sideline and you're not giving him extra chances
to score when he does get it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:47):
That's weird that this is true because the Texans do
have the exceptional time of possession. It was exceptional and
this past Sundays went over Indianapolis. They were very good
on third down in this game and CJ was exceptional
on third down throwing the football in this game. But
they really haven't been good on third down the whole year,
and that still holds true. They're not anywhere near the

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top of the league. In fact, they're near the bottom
of the league in third down. There's only five teams
worse than Houston in converting third downs, usually because it's
third nine or third and ten or thirty nearly eleven,
and that's where it's hard to do that on a
consistent basis. If that's your method of beating the other team,
you keep your defense fresh by keeping their offense off

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the field.

Speaker 2 (02:33:31):
It's hard to do so.

Speaker 3 (02:33:32):
Kansas City has repeatedly in the Mahomes era been one
of the best teams in the league on third down.
Last year they were second. You go back to twenty
twenty three and Kansas City was six. They've basically been
in the top ten all these elite Mahomes years, and
most of the time they were in the top one
or two. They were two, five and two over the

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last three years. This year the six and six Kansas
City Chiefs. They're still good, but their tenth they've taken
a step back in that regard. They don't have as
successful an offense. They aren't scoring quite as many points
as they have. They possess the ball a pretty decent amount,
but they're just simple. They're not who they have been.

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They still have Mahomes. I think that's everything.

Speaker 4 (02:34:16):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:34:17):
They're also a little bit better than they were at
the beginning of the year because Rashi Rice is out
there and I think his production is pretty obvious. He's
been one of the most productive receivers in the NFL.
Since he's returned, and Mahomes loves putting the ball in
his hands. He did it a bunch against the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (02:34:30):
It paid off.

Speaker 3 (02:34:31):
I'm sure they'll be looking to do it a bunch
more against the Texans. Even though the Texans Stingley Lasseter
duo is light years better than what the Cowboys have
on the field and most every team has on the field.
The Texans getting Jalen Petrie back this last week actually
will be even more significant because they have had bad
bad luck at the safety position this year.

Speaker 2 (02:34:51):
CJ.

Speaker 3 (02:34:51):
Gardner Johnson was a bust. His replacement hurt for the year.
His replacement hurt for the second time this year. Jalen Reid,
who was basically now you're every down other safety because
of that opening there. He broke his arm in yesterday's game.
They don't think it's season ending, but it's unlikely he's

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going to be back anytime soon, and he's obviously not
going to play in this game coming up.

Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
But Miles Bryant took a spot in this instance.

Speaker 3 (02:35:18):
He's basically filled the gap every time somebody's gone down
Petrie before him, now Reid, so he will do the
same thing moving forward. The less they have to dip
into anybody else on their roster in the secondary from
this moment forward, the better off, though, b because this
is kind of the last capable safety they have. They
could sign Jalen Mills to the active roster, but he's

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been with the team basically all year, and he's only
basically played special teams when he's been elevated or played
out of necessity. It's clear they don't want to if
they don't have to.

Speaker 1 (02:35:50):
That regular season game in December against the Chiefs last year,
was Jalen Petree hurt in that game or was he
already out?

Speaker 2 (02:35:58):
I don't know. Well, I know that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:00):
I mean, obviously that's when Tank Dell got hurt, but
now I can't remember if going in they were already
without him, or if he also got hurt in that
game and then they didn't have him for the rest
of the season so.

Speaker 2 (02:36:13):
He was not on the roster, he was already on
ir Okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
I really honestly, he makes a difference because of how
their depth is so thin.

Speaker 1 (02:36:21):
Anybody that's the secondary against Pat Mahomes is going to
make a difference.

Speaker 3 (02:36:24):
Yeah, he's just basically not in it anymore. I mean,
if you watch how they use him now, they the
amount of blitzing he does from his spot in the slot,
it's incredible and I'm not a huge fan of it
because of how they do it. He's coming from so
far away. He never gets through, almost never gets because
it takes so long to get there and gone or

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whoever is their last line of defense, whether it's alignman
who's unoccupied, or a tight end or a running back,
they have time to find it because he's so far away.
And again, if the quarterback recognizes the newly created hot route,
well that's where the ball is going. But yes, he
obviously is truly a member of the secondary and we'll
obviously play a pretty large role in this game. All
indications are he came out of this game well, he

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did wear his Guardian cap for this game after his
three games of missing time with a concussion had elapsed,
and he obviously felt well enough and had cleared all
the steps to get out there. Five games remaining for
the Texans there seven and five. Chiefs are six and six.
This huge, huge matchup, just like we all thought when
the year began, a matchup of two non playoff teams

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currently the seven and five Texans in eighth, the six
and six Chiefs in ninth in the very odd looking
AFC playoff picture, which we will discuss at length throughout
all the day's remaining of this NFL season, but we'll
have to start up on that again tomorrow at two