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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Coming into this hour, we're going to talk more about
Beasley's indiscretions and potential gambling on basketball that could get
him kicked out of the league for life.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
We'll talk about that coming up and more on the.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
BYU story, And I want to make sure that we
talked a little bit about this yesterday. I'm not necessarily
using the Jake Reetz laugh story as the reason for
asking this question because there was a rape allegation that
was involved with his situation that has now been dismissed
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and he's going to transfer, and I'm not sure what
the victim is planning on doing, if she's allowed back
in school or not. But he contends that they had
a consensual relationship. But the question we'll ask her in
a little bit and discuss is can BYU be competitive
beyond what they've been because they want to win national championships. Yes,
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I think to the NCAA tournament's great. Winning the Big
Twelve is great, But can you win national championships and
still expect the players that you're either paying and or
recruiting on rosters to follow an honor code that most
people that are a lot of people that are going
to play college sports don't necessarily agree with. So we'll
get into that coming up in a bit. I've had
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a lot of people ask me what I think of
Texas State moving into the PAC twelve, and I think
that a lot of times we hear the words PAC twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
And we go, oh man, they're a power conference. They're not.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
The PAC twelve is no longer a power conference. Now
they're going to have Gonzaga for basketball, and my guess
is is they're not finished trying to add to their
roster of teams. But this is the eight teams that
are going to play college football as of now in
twenty twenty six. Texas State and Boise, Fresno, Colorado State,
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San Diego State, Utah State, Oregon State, and Washington State.
Oregon State, Washington State occasionally had good teams when they
were in the Pac twelve and occasionally made it to
a big bowl game, maybe the Rose Bowl or another
New Year six game or something along those lines. Boise
has kind of tried to get there a few times.
They've been to the Fiesta Bowl. They have the famous
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win againstun eight, and Boise has kind of developed a
program that's a little bit unique. But we saw that
they weren't the match for the Power four teams when
they got to the playoffs last year, even though they
got to buy Fresno, Colorado State, San Diego State, Utah
State all decent teams, but not necessarily powerhouses.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
When it comes to college football.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So, and I kind of touched on this yesterday, I
think Texas State has a really good opportunity as long
as GJ. Kinney is still their coach and he's able
to recruit and more importantly, the folks in San Marcus
pony up in ile money. I think they have the
ability to win that league if they can beat Boise State.
I think Boise's State is the perennial favorite of that conference.
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Kan Texas State beat them, and if they can, and
there's no other teams that are added to this list,
and one of the teams I would think that would
want to be in it at some point in San Jose.
I'd also think that UTEP may want to jump into
the mix if they can't get.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
In the Mountain West.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But if they can beat the Boise on a semi
regular basis to win the league, then they have a
really good chance of being the first of the Texas
Mid majors to get to the College Football Playoff. But
I don't think just because it says PAC twelve on
your name gives you any advantage over the schools in
the American Conference, or for that matter, even Conference USA,
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because I think the American Conference schools, especially South Florida,
Memphis and Tulane, and the success that UTSA has had
in football, those are better games, those are better teams.
You're going to even throw an army in that situation
and occasionally Navy, who all have had a good runs
in the American Conference in football, and overall that conference
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I think has got a better RPI than what the
PAC twelve now has. Will it be easier to win
the Pac twelve, Yes, because in most years I think
you're only going to have to beat Boise, where UTSA
is likely to have a bigger gauntlet, as will Memphis
in South Florida and Tulane. It's going to be kind
of a much more difficult conference to win, and if
you don't go undefeated, you're likely not going to be
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a Group of five champion. So I think it's going
to take some special some special seasons for UTSA to
be a CFP team where it may not necessarily be
as special of a season for Texas State. Anytime you
win the games on your schedule, that's great, but anytime
that you But if you look at it from this standpoint,
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I think Texas State does have a little bit of
an advantage with the conference schedule that they'll eventually be
playing well.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I mean, so that's a lot to unravel. At least
let's go with with UTSA. I'll use the notion that
at least with Jeff Trailers. It puts out there and
we talk about all the time. Yeah, you can go
to an SEC conference, you can go to a bigger conference,
but are you going to be competitive enough to know
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that every single year, at best you might be the
on a good year, the seventh best team in that
conference or gentleman.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I've just been handed an urgent news story.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Stop what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh't know what's up?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Shane.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, this kind of goes back to what we talked
about the first segment. But Duncan Robinson is not coming
to San Antonio. He has signed a three year, forty
eight million dollar deal with the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm done, all right, I'm out here anything.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I just why well, Detroit is a team that you
got to look at in the in the East for
next year. Now too, they had a good run this
year as a sixth seed. Maybe they can move up
a little bit. But I would rather come to see
Antonio than Detroit. Well yeah, I just I guess he
just signed the contract, so we'll go with that. Oh man,
So okay, you'll find a shooter. So back to your
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thoughts on UTSA.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, so, and it's.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I wouldn't say that you're playing inferior tout, but you
at least have a shot to be at at worst
maybe the third second best on any given any given
I don't think any given year with UTSA in the
American See.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
There's a lot of people that think that the Pac
twelve is just a stepping stone to get yourself into
a Power for a conference. And of all these teams
that I talked about, A, I don't know why you
would want to be in a Power for a conference,
and I don't know that the Power four conference would
want you.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So if you're the Big twelve, would you want.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Texas State, Boise, Fresno, Colorado State, San Diego State, Utah State,
Oregon State, or Washington state if you wanted them, why
haven't you already invited them already? Especially Washington State, Oregon State,
and Boise because they could play in the in the
Big twelve right now if you wanted them.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You don't want them.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
They're not big enough, their TV markets aren't big enough,
and Boise is and all three of those I think
Boise at least most of the years in the in
the Pacific time zone. So you're constantly playing games late
at night. And we talked about that yesterday. There's gonna
be games at straight hand, There's gonna be baseball games.
There's gonna be football games at Bobcat Stadium that start
at nine thirty, because if they're in that ESPN window
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for nine thirty Central times seven thirty Pacific, and it's
your home game, you're still gonna have to play in
that late slot. So it's gonna be great for tailgating
all day, and it's gonna be great for having a
juiced crowd when you get to nine thirty at night.
But wh who's staying up to watch you play unless
it's on the West Coast or you're a diehard Bobcat fan.
But I this notion that everybody is jocking for position
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to get into a power conference. I think at some
point there's gonna be teams in power conferences. They're gonna say, yeah,
the money's nice, but I'm tired of losing. If you're
Kentucky in football, do you do you have any chance
whatsoever in the next ten years to win the SEC?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
If you're in Minnesota or if you're you know, I'll
throw out to Rutgers, Illinois, ill Illinois, Indiana had some
Indiana had a run last year a couple of years ago.
But do you really realistically have a chance to win
the league? A school that is his blue blood as
Nebraska struggles right now to win eight games in that league.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Hey, they have the baby Patrick Mahomes with Dylan Royola.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Good for them.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
They're still going to go nine to three this year
and that's going to be considered a good year now
when that was unacceptable just ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
The fireball offense at that point, How dare you only
win that game?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, and you're saying you're you're you're looking at Nebraska.
I just I think we're going to get to us
a point that we have two leagues. I think we're
gonna have two FBS leagues. We're gonna have six teams
from the SEC. We're gonna have, you know, six or
seven teams from the Power Conferences and maybe a thirty
thirty team race for the national championship, and then everybody
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else is going to play Division two or Division two FBS,
and then you're gonna have the FCS after that. Because
at some time, regardless of how much money you're making,
if you don't have a chance to compete, any coach,
any player that you know, what, what do they want
when they when they get on a team, they want
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a chance to win. And when you don't have any
chance of winning, you sometimes get a little bit stale
in how you prepare for games. What difference does it
make how I prepare for this game. We're gonna lose
by thirty anyway. Their players are better than ours. And
I just can't see where the half of the SEC,
half of the Big ten, half of the ACC, and
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half of the Big twelve is going to sit around
and go, well, this is another year where we're going
to go seven and five and it's going to be
a great year for us. At some point they're going
to want to have a chance to be competitive. And
I always talk about this with Jeff and UTSA is
I don't care if we don't have the biggest budget.
I don't care if we don't have the biggest facility.
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I don't care what the what it looks like. Do
we have a chance against the teams that we are
playing if we play our best, can we feel the
team that can beat them? And when you get to
a point to where that does not happen. And yes,
Utsa's going to play Texas A and M, and we
all know they're playing them because they need the money
and A and M needs to make money. So we're
going to go to We're going to see a game.
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UTSA is going to make a million plus million five
whatever it is. And at the end of the day,
if you stay within three scores, it's not it's a
moral victory. But at least you'll learn something and you
get ready for the next week against Texas State and
Incarnate Word and the rest of the season. You should
be competitive. But I don't see that this is a
stepping stone to get into a bigger conference for Texas
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State or for UTSA or for anyone. They're in the
conferences right now where they have the best chance to
win and the best chance to maximize their mon Arkansas,
and then if they get bigger and if they do
get the funding, then there's an opportunity for schools like
that down the road. We'll get to that, but I
see that as ten twelve years minimum away.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, you know how you were talking about, are are
you okay with certain teams that just accept meteorocracy? No?
Or are okay with knowing that, hey, we're at best
going to do this this year again? This is my
chance to always poke a little brother. Yeah, that's what
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they've been.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, but Texas A and M believes with the money
that they have that they can go out and get
the players necessary to compete with Texas at Alabama and Georgia.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And I know they have the money.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
But can you get people to come to Texas A
and M that are going to make a difference? Do
you want to go to school at Texas A and M?
And is money going to be the motivating factor that chooses?
Because if Georgia and Texas A and M are paying
you the same amount of money, are you going to
go to Georgia, You're going to go to Texas, A
and m IF Texas and O you are offering the
same amount of money and you're from Austin. Where are
you going to school? Unless you just hate Texas, You're
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probably going to Texas. And So when it comes down
to I said this last week, and I'm thinking yesterday
as well, the champion of the SEC and the three
teams that are are going to perennially be the in
the In the four teams that the SEC is going
to eventually get for a sixteen team playoff, it's going
to be Texas, Georgia, Alabama and occasionally Tennessee. And then
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there's going to be for their schools that kind of
rotate in there with Tennessee, and that's going to be
O you when they get when they get the right coach,
it's going to be LSU. Occasionally it's going to be Auburn,
and it's going to be Florida. And every ten or
twelve years you're going to get a Georgia or an
Arkansas or maybe a South Carolina and and and you
might even throw Florida into that mix a little bit.
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But everybody but Vanderbilt's never going to the college football Playoff,
Kentucky's never going South Carolina is not going. Missuspy in
Mississippi State are not going Wow. So at what point
do they say, why are we doing this? Yeah, we're
getting paid a lot of money, and we're good in
baseball and we're good in basketball. But if we're going
to compete in football, our players know that they come here,
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they're just getting paid because occasionally they're going to be
one of those big schools, but rarely are they going
to win enough to be in the top four of
the top sixteen.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, because right there what you mentioned the other sports
that maybe those particular schools are good in, they're doing
the Tiger Woods mentality and saying thank you player A
for taking that thirty point whooping from Alabama or Georgia
Texas every single year because you're helping fund us. You're
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helping with the nil, you're helping with the revenue sharing,
you're helping us be able to field these other sports
for that college to be relevant or at least be competitive.
That's how I look at it as all right, I
don't love for Ole miss by the way, just saying.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Well, what were they nine and four? Last year and
that was a great year for him. Hey, they had ten,
didn't they have ten? They were they? I never considered
them a contender for anything.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh and also the other one that you threw out
that you left out no love for Missouri.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Man, I know, I don't. Masuri's the black sheep of
the SEC. They were the black sheep of the Big
Eight and the Big twelve when they were in that
league too. They're a decent, decent basketball school.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Occasionally and people think that I'm harsh on little brother
and Andy.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Just the aggie fans that don't like you. All right,
Malik Beasley news. Coming up next, It's the Andy Everett
Show on the tickets.