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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I mentioned we talked the Monday Night football in that
last segment. We're gonna do an NFL Week twelve looxie
to kick off the football happy hour there at the
top of the five o'clock we'll go back and look
at some of the other games from NFL Week twelve
and try not to try not to analyze them all
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in terms of how it helps or hurt, say, Cowboys
playoff run, because we're not doing that. I continue to
say we every time I say we're not doing that,
somehow to avoid it. It really is because I'm a
Cowboys fan, yeah, and I'm back in.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
But we're also guys who claimed to be fair, so
we have to be fair.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
At twenty one to nothing in the second quarter on Sunday,
the last thing I was thinking about was playoffs. But
as soon as Aubrey kicked that field goal made it
twenty four to twenty one, I couldn't help but check
the rest of the scores and standings and start to
try to extrapolate out how this could be the beginning
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of a massive But we're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
As I said, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We are doing We're looking ahead of the playoffs for
another league.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, the the the in season playoffs. As we look
at the NBA Cup games coming up for the Spurs, obviously,
you know, again I understand the NBA Cup is a
giant bit, which is also why I love it, I do.
I mean, hey, speaking of the Sacramento Kings won a game,
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but it wasn't at home, so they didn't get to
light the beam. But at least they are getting at
least somewhat closer to maybe lighting the beam again. I
saw someone tweet out, do they regularly test the beam
to make sure it's going to work the next time
they get to use it because it's been so long.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
No, the more importantly, obviously.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You know, the next two games are against Portland and Denver,
who are in Group C in the these NBA Cup groups.
But you know, really in the long run, more importantly,
they're playing the nine seed in the Western Conference right
now and the two seed in the Western Conference right now,
and then the next game, third game, the last game
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on this road trip, they're playing the seventh seed Minnesota Timberwolves.
So three teams that are all expecting to stay in
the at worst play in conversation, obviously, Timberwolves are hoping
they move out of that play in spot, and then
it looks like the Nuggets are going to be pretty
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comfortable as that potential second team to the Thunder. Don't
look now, but the Thunder are seventeen and one.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So the best I mean, I when's the last time
a champion started a season the next year seventeen and one?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I mean, that can't have happened.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Do you remember the start?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's a seventy seven game win page.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The twenty sixteen Warriors, they made it to seventy three
and nine, but I remember what their first twenty games
looked like.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That would probably that would be your best bet.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Right because I know they started off like they won
like I think fifteen of their first eighteen or something
stupid like that, Like they were putting up like seventy
eighth Lakers type numbers that that team that won thirty
three games in a row. And so the Oklahoma City
is definitely off to a hot start. And an underrated
hot start is the Detroit Pistons, who last year made
like a thirty point thirty win swing to make the playoffs.
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Week before the year before they won fourteen games. So
the NBA is having turnarounds faster than ever before it
used to be. And you know this, it would take
four maybe five years to see a full franchise turnaround.
Teams are doing it now in two.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Ever since that most recent CBA was passed in contracts
all of a sudden were more likely to be two
or three years instead of four or five. It makes
those windows open and close way faster across the league.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And also, I think this is a good this next
three game row test. These are all playoff level teams
right and now on the West, and it really and
I think right now it shows you because again the West,
the Spurs are still down three of their best players.
But it's a good litmus test to see where your
team is, where your depth is against elite level talent.
The Nuggets are going to be a factor in the West,
that the Tea Wolves are going to be factor in
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the West. And it looks like the Blazers, if nothing else,
are going to be a factor in the play in
They could sneak in for one of those other spots
because they're not that far off from the Phoenix Suns,
who right now are sixth. But even though the Phoenix
obviously has san Antonio's number. They've been vulnerable at moments too.
So right now the West is incredibly tight from like
everyone from Denver who's at thirteen and four down to
Portland who's eight and ten. They're all separated by like
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a game or two apart. And that's about it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, and I would you know, Portland is the one
that I still think Portland is closer to Memphis than
they are Golden State in terms of.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, talent on the roster.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I look at you know, one through eight, it feels
like are pretty solidified in some order. The order will change,
but I think you top eight that you have on
November twenty fifth will still be the same top eight
in some order come the final day of the regular season,
because I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The bottom seven in the West important Portland including that
by the way, and Memphis right now, I think you
and I both agree like if they don't move on
from Jaw, like that team's only gonna go downward. Utah
is very much.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
In a rebuild.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
The Clippers are old, the Kings are beat up, and
I don't really know what their issue is, and.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It sounds like the Kings are open for any kind
of fire cell of maps too.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The Maps are likely looking on for looking to move
from Clay D'Angelo, Russell, Anthony Davis, Kyrie Evan didn't get
back until March, and then.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
The Pelicants might be traded in March, and.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
The Pelicans like there's been word you've heard. You've heard
also that Zion could be on the move before the
deadline too, So like you're right, those bottom six teams,
like there are no man's that right now. Right now,
Portland is kind of like that barrier. It feels like
between Golden State, who's very much it feels like a
playoff team, and then Memphis, who would get in theoretically
into the play by default, not by skill.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, looking at you know, I completely agree. I mean,
out of all of those teams, if you had to
ask me who slides into that ten seed by the
end of the year, I would still probably say Clippers,
just because they are under the most pressure to win Nowka,
of course, depending on how available Kawhi is. But as
long as James Harden is doing what he's doing right
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now at thirty seven years old, thirty eight, however old
he is, I would expect the Clippers to eventually be
that tenth team standing. But I mean that's where as
you said, you know, the injury questions with the Spurs
right now, it's hard to really get any kind of
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judge on the team going into these games against Portland,
against Denver, against Minnesota because you're pretty much I mean,
you know, Wimby's not traveling with them on the road trip.
We should get some kind of injury update around seven
o'clock to night, since the game is a nine o'clock
start right in Portland, uh, tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, I think, I think, I think someone said, like
Harper and Castle like they could be back before Wemby.
They might sit Wemby at least through the rest of
the road trip and maybe even like after that next
home game which is until December.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Second. Yeah, it feels like that's a given.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So, like so I feel like they might like they're
gonna take Wmby obviously very seriously. Remember he didn't play
at the end of the last year. He's been doing
with calf stuff. And that's the thing also is that
when you're taller, we see a lot more of those
calf injuries among the centers, just because there's a lot
more pressure on on those bodies.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Oh yeah, No, it's a much more a much I
mean even kd slight frame, yeah, still being that tall.
I mean we saw him go from a strained calf
to a blown achilles uh. And certainly the Spurs are
not going to take any chances there.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
And I feel like if they do hypothetically lose both
these next games against the Blazers and the Nuggets, they
would go to one and three in that pool. They
would likely that means it's probably gonna be out.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, if they lose, so they would use.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Like those extra days as extra days of rest, and
around that timeframe is when I think we could expect
Wimby and everybody back.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah. I think if you know, looking forward to tomorrow
night in Portland, if they lose that game, then the
game against Denver is really going to be more about
Denver making sure they escape the group and Spurs, like
you said, probably using more of an injury management. That
might be a Carter Bryant plays thirty minutes that night,
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which is fine, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Or David Jones Garcia. I mean we've seen him out.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Mine when the younger guys who are getting like eight
minutes and eight minutes a night, get some extra playing time.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
He's development.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, and that's something you know, these NBA Cup games
could actually be utilized, could be good for sure. I
think you know you mentioned the way the Western Conference
is laid out right now, we feel one through eight
is locked in nine to ten. It feels like you
can already kind of see potentially which way that's gonna fall,
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especially when you look at the rest of the teams
in the bottom seven, who are all looking at potential,
you know, big trades of some of their bigger names
on the roster. You mentioned the Pistons in the East,
though it's not just the Pistons, the fact that the
Pistons are the one seed and the Raptors are the
two seed right now, and the difference between the seven
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seed it makes no sense the seven seed seventy six
ers say that five times fast. Philly has nine wins, Milwaukee,
who's the eleventh seed, has eight wins. So where the West,
we feel nine teams have pretty much eight teams have
at least done what they need to do to show
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they're going to be there.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
At the end.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
A ninth team is falling into place. The East, it
looks like there's eleven teams and one of them is
going to be the odd man out by the end
of the season.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
If I told you at the start of the year
that for Toronto, that and I love Scotty Barnes. I
wanted Scotty Barnes to be a Spur when he was
up in the end the draft, I want that was
the guy I wanted. If I were to tell you, hey,
this year, the Raptors are gonna have three players that
average twenty points and more game, would you believe me? Realistically?
No brandon Ingram r J. Barrett, Scottie Barnes. That's the
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bulk of their offense. And again we all understand that
this is no excuse. The East is not as strong
as the West. That is an excuse. But we also
have to take impressive play where it comes. You play
who you play, right. You always talk about like you
can't like you know, you can't fault the team for
beating who they beat because like that's their schedule to play.
But Toronto right now, you're right, like right now, the
Pistons right now would probably be the best team of
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the East. They're also the healthiest, like they just it's
just favorable for them.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
We can't even know the Raptors.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No especially, I mean with as wide open as the
East is, uh, someone's going. This feels like one of
those years where you know, the Western Conference is the
NBA Finals and.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
My ma, Orlando Magic are finally making a comeback. That
was a team that I thought was a dark horse
to win the East. For a while, they were like
third worst in the East. Now I think they're let
me see eighth eight these.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, they're back over five hundred. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
The uh, you know, the big Desmond Bane trade for them,
really that turned them into a bit of media darlings.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That see that right there. I felt like that that's
the trade that ruined the Grizzlies because it should have
been jaw Desmond Bane. I felt like him and Jaron Jackson,
we with the guys, you could have built the.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Roster around, oh, no question, especially with the you know,
with the contract extensions they have locked in. You know,
that could have been your your one two building block.
You know. In terms of the Spurs game Wednesday night,
one thing to look forward to or to pay attention
to right now. The Trailblazers are leading the group, but
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they have the a minus a negative eighteen point differential.
And you'll remember one of the things I love about
the NBA Cup is at the end of games, when
a team is up by ten with a minute to go,
they don't quit trying to score.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
They're trying to run the score.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Up because that's one of the tiebreakers, one of the
main tiebreakers. And the way this group is falling in
terms of the standings, it looks like we're going to
have a tie.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
And so if the Spurs.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Do beat Portland or are beating Portland Wednesday night, I
expect to see points scored until the final whistle because
they know beating Portland is not potentially not enough. You've
got to make sure you have a better point differential
than they do. So we'll be keeping an eye on
that Tomorrow night late tip out there in Portland. Coming
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up next, let's jump into let's talk some cowboys here
because I want to talk Obviously, the Pickens contract dilemma
gets a lot of attention, but let's talk about the
future of Javonte Williams with the Dallas Cowboys.