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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Indie Everage Show.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It is the Wednesday edition.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of the Indy Average Show, and I have returned from
Florida and we have three hours to get through the
rest of the week because we're not on Tomorrow or
on Friday for the Thanksgiving holidays.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And then back on Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So we'll see if we can make some sense of
the sports world over the course of the next three hours.
Thanks to Shane and to Sam who filled in the
last couple of days. They'll get some more ad bats
coming up as the UTSA basketball schedule kicks into gear
in late January or late December and January. And there's
my future that I can see. There's probably going to
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be a day or two off in December.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, the B team hopefully didn't disappoint.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
What I heard, it sounded good son a good job
with all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We appreciate. How I know you've been flying a lot
and traveling a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
How are you doing, uh well, other than the fact
I haven't slept then since I signed off last night
from Florida, I'm good, fine, and I tried. But my
future in about six hours, it's going to be a
bad So.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I try to. I tried so bad to get you
take the day.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Also, you have three days in a row, because you
have like eight days starting a starting Saturday, you're going
to be going concurrently, but you can't stay away.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, I have Saturday and Sunday with football and basketball, right,
but we don't have any weekday games next week. That's good,
and so we play uh Saturday next Sunday against Alabama,
and then we have another week off before they go
to Colorado and the USC trip, and then another week
off after like five days after that before they play Seattle.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So only four basketball against Christmas break and all that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But but we'll also have to work a bowl game
in there at some point, I hope and then well
then we'll go from there. But we'll see what We'll
see how that works out and get you all connected
whenever we can. All right, let's talk about some of
the topics going on, and the big one that I
saw yesterday was the hiring of Eric Morris at Oklahoma State.
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Oklahoma State and North Texas have worked out a deal
where as long as North Texas is playing football, Eric
will coach them until they are no longer playing football
this year. I've got a lot of thoughts on this.
They obviously have one of the hot shot young nil quarterbacks,
red shirt freshman Drew Mestimaker, who will not be at
North Texas next year and could be at Oklahoma State,
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but I'm not sure if Oklahoma State can afford him,
and maybe Eric Morris has already negotiated that deal because
from the reports that I have read, Oklahoma State's only
paying their players about three million dollars collectively, which is
way at the bottom of the of the wrong as
far as the Big Twelve is concerned. And my guess
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is is that there are schools that will pay mess
to Maker at least that much.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
They're kind of starting from the bottom.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
They're kind of a start from scratch essentially, and to
Eric Morris's credit, he has gotten better each season he
was at North Texas. He had the one losing season,
and last year they made a bowl game, they lost it,
and this year they're still alive, not just for the
American Championship depending on what happens with Navy and Memphis
as well as Tulane, but as well as potentially for
the CFP. So he's become one of the hotshot names,
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especially late in the game because LSU and.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Florida obviously focused all their energy on Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
But when it comes to Oklahoma State, I actually think
that it's a bit of a mistake to go that
route until they have the resources set up, just because
I think North Texas, assuming Eric Moors has stayed, I
think it's in better position to compete. As long as
the group of five have an automatic bid, they are
in better position to compete for a playoff spot in
Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I think Oklahoma State has the history what history they
have with Mike Gundy, because their history before Mike Gundy
and maybe a little bit with less Miles, is less
than spectacular. They were never that good in the big
in the Big Eight, they were okay in the Big Twelve,
and then the years that they were good in the
Big Eight, they were the only ones cheating in the
Big Eight, or at least cheating to the extent that
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you could cheat.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Back then and get away with it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But I think that Oklahoma State is a hard place
to go unless you are going to pay the players
what the rest of the schools are getting in the
Big Twelve. We'll talk more about that coming up in
the next segment. But here's the other side of the
of the coin. If Eric Morris can get everybody paid
for a year and he goes nine and three in
the Big Twelve, the SEC and the Big Ten are
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going to be calling because you know there's going to
be two or three jobs that open there. So his
stay at Oklahoma State may not be long. And we'll
get into those options coming up in a little bit
as well.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I like how you assume that a Big twelve job
is just somehow worse than an SEC job without blindly
knowing which ones they are.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, my thought is, oh, are you.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Saying you'd rather co coach and Mississippi State than at
Utah objectively?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
The fact you can't.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Say you would. I would not.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I think Utah's a better job, but I think Oklahoma
State may be the worst job in the Big twelve
and less.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Now that can change.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
If Oklahoma State's going to ponying up the money, then
it becomes a much better job. Sure, I think every
school has got to make a decision do we want
to be in a league or do we want to
just or do we want to win the league? And
if you want to win the league, got to find
out what everybody's payroll is and at least match it
or get within a ninety percent of it. And I
think Tulane and Memphis will in South Florida. To me,
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South Florida should not have lost to Memphis, and I'm
not sure how they lost the Navy. That team I
think has the best talent and the best roster, but
we're also dealing with eighteen to twenty four year old
kids that sometimes wake up on the wrong side of
the bed and don't play. But I think if Oklahoma
State's going to compete, they have to start spending between
probably fifteen to twenty million on their roster. If they're not,
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then Eric Morris won't be there long. And they'll be
an coordinator for somebody else again until he gets another shot.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Unless he has less.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
He gets half the North Texas team and raids the
American Conference and is able to get ten or fifteen
million dollars for a year or so and give the
Cowboys a taste of what they could have if they
keep doing this, and then he wins. By the way,
are we going to keep this upper on my leaving
because then maybe a Baylor calls, and that's a Big
twelve school obviously, but maybe Arkansas probably has already had
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a chance at Arkansas, I think Arkansas is kind of down.
I just think there's a there's very few schools in
each conference that have a chance to win. I think
there's a lot of schools in the Big twelve that
have a chance to win based on what they pay.
I don't care what Mississippi State pays. They're not going
to get a recruit over Texas or A and M
or LSU or Alabama or Oklahoma and now Ole miss speaking.
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So I just think there's schools, and having this conversation
with somebody on this trip, there may be a situation
where even school and this may be ten years away
but we have about forty teams that play for the
FBS title, and then we have another seventy teams that
play for the FBS Division two title. Because if Alabama
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and Oklahoma and a and M and LSU and Florida
and Tennessee can spend thirty million dollars on a roster,
but Mississippi State and Vanderbilt and South Carolina and Auburn
can only spend fifteen, then those schools in the same
conference are at a disadvantage to the other ones in
their conference.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
And it's easy for people to.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Say, well, you know, just go raise the money, but
you have to have people who have some loyalty to
those schools, and you also have to have not only
the loyalty, but the desire to spend that money at
those schools. So we'll get into that topic a lot
more here in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I didn't get to hear much of it, but you
told me yesterday when Mark VanderMeer was on, you guys
talked about it.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Adventures in Broadcasting.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yes we did well was Mark's favorite favorite memory.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
So it wasn't necessarily about like his favorite memory. It
was more about like the journey that he had starting
out just calling like high school level games to where
he became now, and Sam essentially asked him, you know,
was there ever a time during that that you maybe
had his second guest in your career choice? And you know,
Mark Vanmer was very adamant, saying like, no, this is
what I wanted to do, and it just turned to
something even bigger than he expected. Me and Sam kind
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of like talked about like like I had told Sam
the story that I told you before the show about
how like before I came here, I called high school
games and I one time was told the day before
to bring a foldout table because I would not be
allowed in the press box, and I had to call
a game from the thirty yard line behind the chain
on the ground at ground level, at ground level, and
I had to be close enough to the outlet, which
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was next to a light pole. And then it started
and it started to haze, so and my color guy
didn't show up. So I'm calling the game by myself
out in the rain. So I had my own I
have my own little horror.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Stories about that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'll give you several in a little bit, Some adventures
in broadcasting, and it's sometimes you know, I think we're
I feel very lucky and fortunate, and it's a moment
of joy for me though. I get to call games,
and I've always said, if you can make a living
at what you like to do, then you've won the
game of life. Not everybody gets that opportunity, so I'm
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very gracious for that.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But there is some.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Non glamorous things that happen along the way until you
get to a level. And to be honest with you,
I can't remember broadcasting a game at the college level
in the I would say the magnitude of the gym
that we were in for the last two games. I mean,
I've seen junior high school, junior high school's, elementary school
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gyms that were bigger, nicer, more proficient than this one was.
But we'll get into that coming up in a little
bit as well. It is Wednesday, we have to get
to our NFL pick. We also have the Thanksgiving the
NFL games coming up, and this weekend we have some
big time college football games. What happens if Ohio State
loses to Michigan again.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Then Ohio State doesn't get to assuming that Oregon beats
Washington and Ohio State would actually not be in the
Big Ten Championship. But I think they're still gonna put
them in the Collegeball Playoff, which is ironic because and
if you look at their schedule, they've only played one
ranked team all year, and that was Texas. So they're
so like they're not they're gonna get the benefit of
the death that really no one else would get assuming
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they'd only played.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
One ranked team all year.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, I think that when you look at the conference,
you can't pick. You only can play who the conference
says that you got to pick, and they and they
do have to play a power for every year as
part of the Big Ten agreement, and so that is
this year it was Texas, and they're gonna play a
bunch of patsies the rest of the time in the
non conference because they don't want to lose. But you
couldn't predict that Penn State was gonna fall in his
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face like they did. You couldn't predict that at USC
was going to have three losses, could predict that Washington, well,
you probably could predict Washing's going to be very good,
but they're not terrible. And then you've got Oregon that
was on your schedule this year. So and then Indiana,
So there's I think to strength. The schedule sometimes gets
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overlooked because sometimes you think it's a schedule looks pretty
good going into a season, and then it's not. I mean, look,
I'll look give you an example here locally. Next year,
UTSA has four road games Florida Atlantic to a UAB
Temple and Rice. Now, other than two lane, those other
three games should be easy. I don't care where you're playing.
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FAU is not very good right now, but they get
spend ten million on a roster and get good in
a hurry. Rice is I'm not expected to be very good,
and UAB I mean they're in turmoil right now with
the actions that happened over this weekend. But then look
at their home schedule next year. They have Navy, who
is playing for a conference championship this weekend, and maybe
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next They've got North Texas who ran them out of
the park. And they also play Memphis. Right, No, they
play they don't play Memphis. They play Navy at home,
they play North Texas at home, and.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
They play us F at home.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh okay, so the three best teams maybe in the
conference they have home games with next year. So not
only is the home winning streak on the line. Now,
maybe all those players leave. Maybe North Texas roster gets
gutted when Eric Morris leaves and they can't replace him.
Maybe Navy's in one of those cycles, whether they or not.
As good in South Florida is the only hard team
you got to beat at home. But you never know
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from year to year what your schedule is going to
look like. So we'll get into all of that. Some
other things going on, maybe a Spurs discussion or two.
Let's get into the Eric Morris hiring at Oklahoma State,
what that means and what it means for the other
jobs that are open as well. In the indie everage
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