July 2, 2025 • 10 mins
Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham & Angel Reese all speak on changes in the WNBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
They'd have WNBA news Indiana won the Commissioner's Cup. This
is the the the WNBA's version of the n season tournament,
which is another ridiculous thing that we need to get
rid of in both leagues because who cares.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well the players. Some of the players the.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Only reason they care is because they get paid more
and they have to play an extra game if they get.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
In the finals. And so it's but.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Caitlin Clark came out with something and I didn't even
know this was real until she said it, but she's
absolutely right on this. The player pool for winning the
Commissioner's Cup is greater than the player pool for winning
the WNBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, per player, they get thirty thousand dollars if they
win the Commissioner's Cup. Per player, if they win the
w NBA Finals they get twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, they need to reverse that, I would think so.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Caitlin also said, and I quote, so we get more
for this than you do if you're a champion.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Somebody, someone tell Kathy to help us out.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, that's definitely on that. And listen, I've I got
to meet I haven't never met Kathy Engelberg, but I've
met some of the other commissioners in the WNBA. You
had no I've met Donna Oranger. I think she was
one of the first ones and the one that succeeded
her that they would make the media tour, and since
Andrew Monico and I were the only ones that were
(01:31):
consistently on the road with with a team because the
WNBA doesn't have they have a streaming partner for all
the home games, so the home team feeds whatever streaming
service they have, but they don't have I think only
Minnesota and Indiana have a radio broadcast now, and there's
a few others in the in the mix as well.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
By the way, real quick, Andy, we have a little
bit of breaking news, okay, so Sham's Sharania and also
Chris Haynes of Yahoo I believe he's Jaho Sports has
said that DeAndre Ayton, the former now the former Portland
Troublazer who was getting bought out, cleared waivers and has
agreed to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers. DeAndre Ayton
(02:11):
will make thirty four million dollars this next season between
Portland and LA So I hope he uh, I hope
he actually decides to show up and maybe he'll find
his joy playing with the Lakers, because otherwise Lebron's gonna
be like.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Uh, another guy that's gonna take up money, take up
space and not perform.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's an expiring kind.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It's one year if nothing else, and you know it's
easy to ship out. I would have loved DeAndre Ayton here.
The only my only issue with DeAndre Ayton is his
work ethic the past few years has just gone downhill.
And you saw it in Phoenix and he just stopped caring.
So I don't know, but yeah, there you go. There's
(02:55):
there's the breaking news. So cratch another one off the
list for my Spurs. I didn't want him here anyways.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He doesn't have the responsibility to play for this team,
all right, So anyway, I just I've never really thought
that the details that the players care about the most
were being addressed by a lot of WNBA commissioners. And
they say the right things, and they they've always made
a little bit of progress, but the progress hasn't come
(03:21):
as quickly as it should, so that takes us, so
they need to fix that. I agree with Caitlin Clark
on that Sophie Cunningham was joking the other day when
the league announced that Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Detroit would be
getting WNBA teams over the next three or four years,
and she said, I just can't imagine that everybody's going
to be that excited about going.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
To Cleveland or Detroit. Are you sure she was joking? No,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
She I think she was trying to be funny, But
she also said it in a way that it was
I would rather not play for either city, so please
don't draft me an expansion.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think that's what she was trying to say more
than anything else.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, it doesn't help that there's actual video so you
can see her face and facial expressions. She wasn't joking, Andy,
she was slide out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I don't know about that one, but h what makes it?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I know the the I guess the official u X
accounts for those for some of those cities kind of
quote tweeted her, and then took a caption of Caitlyn
Clark saying, Hey, Sophia.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Your teammate is all on board, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And there's this thirty second clip, Oh, Caitlyn Clark saying, Hey,
it's great for the league. I look forward to it,
and things like that, and I look at it as yeah,
because you're probably only going there once or twice a year. Caitlin, Well, Havy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Time I've ever been to Cleveland is when we were
there for the NCAA tournament in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh, I know, we were too far away to walk
to that baseball No baseball, so we were right across
the street from what was then Progressive Field. I think
it's something else now.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No football is Canton, Ohio. Canton's way way south. What
else is in Cleveland? Is it? It's the Baseball Hall
of Fame. It's just Rocket Rock Roll of Fame.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And they've got all three sports and and baseball. And
then we played in Quick and Loans Arena. I think
it's Quicken or Rocket Arena now or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm going off the rails here. Why is the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I have no idea, no clue, and don't really care
that for that matter either.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I bet Pat wouldn't probably know that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Pat's like an, Pat's like you with encyclopedia stuff, But
when it comes to music, really.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I listened to Katy Perry and abas, So what do
I know?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So anyway, so what was there a clap back from
uh from Cleveland and Detroit today, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It was it was them just showing the video of
Caitlyn Clark saying, hey, your your teammates all on board
kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But yeah, it probably.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Wasn't the best look for for Sophia Cunningham to say that,
but she's kind of turned into the uh do you
want to call her?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Necessarily a villain.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The league needs, and the league needs a villain and
an all star I mean a uh a Rick Mahorn.
They need the Charles Oak, they need the bad guy,
and and she is fine playing that role.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah. Yeah, so I'm all for it, I guess, but
I just don't want it to turn into a side
show where they're just doing the doing this as a
bit to draw more attention and more eyes, because that's
that's not the right way to get more attention to
your league. That's my biggest thing with with Angel Wreath
(06:25):
is I'm all fine if you think that some of
these things or whatever, but don't make it to where
you're just doing this because you want the attention and
that's the best way to get it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So I mentioned earlier in the show, Angel reathes not
in the All Star Game. She could be added to
the roster as a reserve. She did not get voted
on as a starter, and she went on some meme
and said, well, how does the league's leading rebounder not
get to be an All Star starter? Well, speaking of villains,
she is the villain in a lot of ways, and
(06:57):
that's fine if that's the role that she wants to play.
I think think Sophia Cunningham's role is I'm gonna make
sure that nobody gets rid of our gravy train. That's
that's the money ticket right there, and I'm going to
protect it at all cost. I think Angel Reese is
being the villain in I don't like all the publicity
that Kaitlin Clark's there, and I think I am a
lot of other players are better than her, So bring it.
(07:18):
Let's see it's better now, Indiana. I don't think it's
good enough to win the NBA the w NBA Championship
this year. I think their fourth the fourth best record
right now. The last time I checked, I thought it
was third. I mean they won, they won the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Why are they Shane their third in the East, the
seventh overall.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, so and and they don't and they they
picked the top teams.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They five teams don't make it out of the third time.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And let's let's remember as well, Kaitlyn Clark has been
out for like what she or five games. They won
the Commissioner's Cup without her.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So so anyway, Dick Vital had a meme and he said,
and obviously you know Dicky's coming from He's not my age,
he's twenty years than me, more than that. But he
basically said the WNBA should be ashamed of itself for
the way that they're treating Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And I agree with him.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I think Kathy Engelberg needs to have a closed door
zoom call with all the.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Players and go, guys, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, Caitlin Clark is the reason that people are talking
about us on talk shows. She's the reason why you're
on a chartered airplane. She's the reason why the contracts
are higher. And just like Tiger Woods, she doesn't move
the needle.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
She is the needle. Get over it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
If you don't like it, beat her and show her
that she's not that great, but good luck doing it,
because she is pretty good at what she's doing. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Again, it goes back to, again some of the pettiness
that they have. If if Asia Wilson was saying things
like this, if Brianna Stewart, some of the more upper echelon.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Asia Wilson is not standing up for Caitlin Clark. She's
just letting it. She's not piling on, but she's not
standing up for either. She's being Switzerland, she's being neutral.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
She's got to do is say, Hey, I am glad
that somebody's finally recognizing how good I am. Well, thank
you for getting that recognition for me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I mean, I have no proof, but because of Caitlin
Clark and all of the eyes, now you could maybe
make the connection that I believe it was with Nike
that she Asia Wilson got her own signature ship and
then signed that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's not happening if Caitlyn doesn't get hers first. And
I don't care what the reason is that people are
watching her. They are watching her, so enjoy the moment
because hopefully she has a twenty year career in the league.
But she's an injury away from not and that's when
you're going back to where you were.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Hey, if it makes if it makes Angel Reese feel
any better. Caitlin Clark was only ninth on the players
voting so.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, she was one point one.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
She had more votes in the from the fans than
all the rest of the All Stars combined.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
How does the captain? How does the captain on the
fan voting finish ninth on.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The players right, So again because of jealousy and because
of pettiness.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, if you.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Think it's just the Caitlin Clark thing, then talk to
your fellow colleagues and co workers as well.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They make me commissioner for today. The first thing we're
doing is having a player zoom meeting. And I'm gonna
say enough, this is the gravy train. Get on it
or get off of it. But she is the train. Yeah,
Russia is always hired and can go play overseas.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Not anymore, They're not not till they finish the war,
all right.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
The Pops record is being adjusted a bit, and Mitch
Johnson now has an NBA record of his own, even
while he was interim coach. We'll talk about that next.
It's the Andy Everage Show on the ticket
They'd have WNBA news Indiana won the Commissioner's Cup. This
is the the the WNBA's version of the n season tournament,
which is another ridiculous thing that we need to get
rid of in both leagues because who cares.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well the players. Some of the players the.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Only reason they care is because they get paid more
and they have to play an extra game if they get.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
In the finals. And so it's but.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Caitlin Clark came out with something and I didn't even
know this was real until she said it, but she's
absolutely right on this. The player pool for winning the
Commissioner's Cup is greater than the player pool for winning
the WNBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, per player, they get thirty thousand dollars if they
win the Commissioner's Cup. Per player, if they win the
w NBA Finals they get twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, they need to reverse that, I would think so.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Caitlin also said, and I quote, so we get more
for this than you do if you're a champion.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Somebody, someone tell Kathy to help us out.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, that's definitely on that. And listen, I've I got
to meet I haven't never met Kathy Engelberg, but I've
met some of the other commissioners in the WNBA. You
had no I've met Donna Oranger. I think she was
one of the first ones and the one that succeeded
her that they would make the media tour, and since
Andrew Monico and I were the only ones that were
(01:31):
consistently on the road with with a team because the
WNBA doesn't have they have a streaming partner for all
the home games, so the home team feeds whatever streaming
service they have, but they don't have I think only
Minnesota and Indiana have a radio broadcast now, and there's
a few others in the in the mix as well.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
By the way, real quick, Andy, we have a little
bit of breaking news, okay, so Sham's Sharania and also
Chris Haynes of Yahoo I believe he's Jaho Sports has
said that DeAndre Ayton, the former now the former Portland
Troublazer who was getting bought out, cleared waivers and has
agreed to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers. DeAndre Ayton
(02:11):
will make thirty four million dollars this next season between
Portland and LA So I hope he uh, I hope
he actually decides to show up and maybe he'll find
his joy playing with the Lakers, because otherwise Lebron's gonna
be like.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Uh, another guy that's gonna take up money, take up
space and not perform.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's an expiring kind.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
It's one year if nothing else, and you know it's
easy to ship out. I would have loved DeAndre Ayton here.
The only my only issue with DeAndre Ayton is his
work ethic the past few years has just gone downhill.
And you saw it in Phoenix and he just stopped caring.
So I don't know, but yeah, there you go. There's
(02:55):
there's the breaking news. So cratch another one off the
list for my Spurs. I didn't want him here anyways.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
He doesn't have the responsibility to play for this team,
all right, So anyway, I just I've never really thought
that the details that the players care about the most
were being addressed by a lot of WNBA commissioners. And
they say the right things, and they they've always made
a little bit of progress, but the progress hasn't come
(03:21):
as quickly as it should, so that takes us, so
they need to fix that. I agree with Caitlin Clark
on that Sophie Cunningham was joking the other day when
the league announced that Philadelphia, Cleveland, and Detroit would be
getting WNBA teams over the next three or four years,
and she said, I just can't imagine that everybody's going
to be that excited about going.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
To Cleveland or Detroit. Are you sure she was joking? No,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
She I think she was trying to be funny, But
she also said it in a way that it was
I would rather not play for either city, so please
don't draft me an expansion.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think that's what she was trying to say more
than anything else.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, it doesn't help that there's actual video so you
can see her face and facial expressions. She wasn't joking, Andy,
she was slide out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I don't know about that one, but h what makes it?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I know the the I guess the official u X
accounts for those for some of those cities kind of
quote tweeted her, and then took a caption of Caitlyn
Clark saying, Hey, Sophia.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Your teammate is all on board, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
And there's this thirty second clip, Oh, Caitlyn Clark saying, Hey,
it's great for the league. I look forward to it,
and things like that, and I look at it as yeah,
because you're probably only going there once or twice a year. Caitlin, Well, Havy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Time I've ever been to Cleveland is when we were
there for the NCAA tournament in twenty eleven.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh, I know, we were too far away to walk
to that baseball No baseball, so we were right across
the street from what was then Progressive Field. I think
it's something else now.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No football is Canton, Ohio. Canton's way way south. What
else is in Cleveland? Is it? It's the Baseball Hall
of Fame. It's just Rocket Rock Roll of Fame.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And they've got all three sports and and baseball. And
then we played in Quick and Loans Arena. I think
it's Quicken or Rocket Arena now or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm going off the rails here. Why is the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I have no idea, no clue, and don't really care
that for that matter either.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I bet Pat wouldn't probably know that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Pat's like an, Pat's like you with encyclopedia stuff, But
when it comes to music, really.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I listened to Katy Perry and abas, So what do
I know?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
All right?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So anyway, so what was there a clap back from
uh from Cleveland and Detroit today, Well.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It was it was them just showing the video of
Caitlyn Clark saying, hey, your your teammates all on board
kind of a thing.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But yeah, it probably.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Wasn't the best look for for Sophia Cunningham to say that,
but she's kind of turned into the uh do you
want to call her?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Necessarily a villain.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The league needs, and the league needs a villain and
an all star I mean a uh a Rick Mahorn.
They need the Charles Oak, they need the bad guy,
and and she is fine playing that role.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah. Yeah, so I'm all for it, I guess, but
I just don't want it to turn into a side
show where they're just doing the doing this as a
bit to draw more attention and more eyes, because that's
that's not the right way to get more attention to
your league. That's my biggest thing with with Angel Wreath
(06:25):
is I'm all fine if you think that some of
these things or whatever, but don't make it to where
you're just doing this because you want the attention and
that's the best way to get it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So I mentioned earlier in the show, Angel reathes not
in the All Star Game. She could be added to
the roster as a reserve. She did not get voted
on as a starter, and she went on some meme
and said, well, how does the league's leading rebounder not
get to be an All Star starter? Well, speaking of villains,
she is the villain in a lot of ways, and
(06:57):
that's fine if that's the role that she wants to play.
I think think Sophia Cunningham's role is I'm gonna make
sure that nobody gets rid of our gravy train. That's
that's the money ticket right there, and I'm going to
protect it at all cost. I think Angel Reese is
being the villain in I don't like all the publicity
that Kaitlin Clark's there, and I think I am a
lot of other players are better than her, So bring it.
(07:18):
Let's see it's better now, Indiana. I don't think it's
good enough to win the NBA the w NBA Championship
this year. I think their fourth the fourth best record
right now. The last time I checked, I thought it
was third. I mean they won, they won the Commissioner's Cup.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Why are they Shane their third in the East, the
seventh overall.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, so and and they don't and they they
picked the top teams.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They five teams don't make it out of the third time.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And let's let's remember as well, Kaitlyn Clark has been
out for like what she or five games. They won
the Commissioner's Cup without her.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So so anyway, Dick Vital had a meme and he said,
and obviously you know Dicky's coming from He's not my age,
he's twenty years than me, more than that. But he
basically said the WNBA should be ashamed of itself for
the way that they're treating Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And I agree with him.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I think Kathy Engelberg needs to have a closed door
zoom call with all the.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Players and go, guys, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yes, Caitlin Clark is the reason that people are talking
about us on talk shows. She's the reason why you're
on a chartered airplane. She's the reason why the contracts
are higher. And just like Tiger Woods, she doesn't move
the needle.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
She is the needle. Get over it.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
If you don't like it, beat her and show her
that she's not that great, but good luck doing it,
because she is pretty good at what she's doing. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Again, it goes back to, again some of the pettiness
that they have. If if Asia Wilson was saying things
like this, if Brianna Stewart, some of the more upper echelon.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Asia Wilson is not standing up for Caitlin Clark. She's
just letting it. She's not piling on, but she's not
standing up for either. She's being Switzerland, she's being neutral.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
She's got to do is say, Hey, I am glad
that somebody's finally recognizing how good I am. Well, thank
you for getting that recognition for me.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I mean, I have no proof, but because of Caitlin
Clark and all of the eyes, now you could maybe
make the connection that I believe it was with Nike
that she Asia Wilson got her own signature ship and
then signed that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's not happening if Caitlyn doesn't get hers first. And
I don't care what the reason is that people are
watching her. They are watching her, so enjoy the moment
because hopefully she has a twenty year career in the league.
But she's an injury away from not and that's when
you're going back to where you were.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Hey, if it makes if it makes Angel Reese feel
any better. Caitlin Clark was only ninth on the players
voting so.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, she was one point one.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
She had more votes in the from the fans than
all the rest of the All Stars combined.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
How does the captain? How does the captain on the
fan voting finish ninth on.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The players right, So again because of jealousy and because
of pettiness.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, if you.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Think it's just the Caitlin Clark thing, then talk to
your fellow colleagues and co workers as well.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
They make me commissioner for today. The first thing we're
doing is having a player zoom meeting. And I'm gonna
say enough, this is the gravy train. Get on it
or get off of it. But she is the train. Yeah,
Russia is always hired and can go play overseas.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Not anymore, They're not not till they finish the war,
all right.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
The Pops record is being adjusted a bit, and Mitch
Johnson now has an NBA record of his own, even
while he was interim coach. We'll talk about that next.
It's the Andy Everage Show on the ticket
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