July 2, 2025 • 10 mins
A season-ticket holding Diamondbacks fan is banned for the rest of the year.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We have had over the several years a lot of
players who have complained about fan interference when it comes
to home runs and foul balls. The most famous, I
think would be the Steve Bartman and Moyses Salou situation
in two thousand and three when he went over to
the sidewall to try to catch a foul and obviously
it was another one of the unlucky moments in Chicago
(00:27):
Cub's history when Bartman jumped over this. I don't know
that he went too far to the field to play,
but Lou tried to go into the stands to get
a foul ball and the fan ended up with it.
And I think Steve Bartman should have treated that a
little bit differently. I'd have done every talk show, I'd
held a press conference in front of Wrigley Field and said, yeah,
I was going for the foul ball, as if every
(00:47):
one of you wouldn't have. I didn't know Moses Salu
was going to try to come to the stands. I've
watched that highlight a million times, and there's no way
that even if Steve Bartman wasn't there, that Moses Salu
could be guaranteed to catch that ball. Was just one
of those things that happened. But Steve Bartman's entire life
was pretty much ruined over that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well what is.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What's her name, Susan, right, Susan from the Yankees, Susan Waldman. Yeah,
that's baseball absolutely, And that wasn't the only thing. But yes,
that the Steve Bartman that started a railroad of just
error after in issues after the.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Issues, because the Cubs that were jinks until they finally
won in twenty fifteen or sixteen whenever it was, and
and the Marlins were a well it was it was.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I think that was.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That was a NLCS game against the Marlins, I believe
that year, and Marlins went on to win the World
Series maybe, And the Marlins had a really good team
that year before they tore it all up and started
over and haven't really been that good since. But anyway,
there's a fan named Dave mccaskell out in Arizona, and
over the course of the last four seasons, Dave mccaskell
has had season tickets in the left field bleachers and
(01:58):
he has caught at least to four home run balls,
and there are some very fine lines of whether he's
reached across into the field of play to snag said
home run balls as the left fielder for the other
team usually is trying to catch it. And the latest
one happened the last week, and he makes this catch,
(02:20):
and I think he was kind of in a gray area,
certainly not one hundred percent in the stands. There are
others that they've shown where I thought he was in
the right to catch the ball, but there's others where
he did lean over so and then the Diamondbacks have
canceled his membership, given his money back, and said you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Come to the ballpark for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Now, I think if you're sitting in the first row
of any bleacher in any ballpark in the world, and
a home run ball comes in your direction, you're not
going to sit there and wait for it to hit
you in the head or the or the chest. You're
going to make an attempt to catch the ball. Now,
you may do it with your hands near your body,
or you may reach out to deflect it if you
don't have a glove, but you may cross that imaginary,
(03:07):
invisible line boundary from time to time.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, but I think that's just your natural reaction as
a baseball fan.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Your inner child.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
To get like foul ball, let me get home run
ball exactly and so, and I've never gotten. I understand
it's a Cubs tradition. If the other team hits a
home run, you throw it back, and now every team
is trying to do it. If I catch a home
run ball, I don't care who catches it. I'm gonna kid.
I would keep it. And when I was a kid,
I would have kept it. Now I would keep it
and give it to a kid because I don't care.
(03:37):
I don't need a home run ball unless it's worth money,
unless it's unless it's got value, and then I'll then
I'll hold it hostage until somebody pays me like everybody
else would.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Unless it's got like Augusta.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No if some type of Augusta claim to it.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
If a Judge hits the seventy fourth home run and
I happen to catch it, Judge is gonna have to
hold me something.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
He's making a gazillion dollar. I can tell you what
it's going to be. It's going to be to play
at Augusta. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You don't get Aaron, get me on Augusta. You can
have the ball that's it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's it. That's a little easy trade. It's the little
things in life, Randy. It doesn't take much. Andy doesn't
necessarily care.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Call the commissioner at at at Augusta, get me and
three of my best friends on Augusta.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We'll call it today. There you go. That's your pin.
You can have the ball. It can go to the
Hall of Fame, all that kinds. I just want to
play once. That's it, just one round. I don't need
a membership. Oh by the way, you.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Have to make sure that all four of us get
there on your private jet. That's part of the okay,
all right, now we're drawing the left. But the Steinbrenners
have a plane. They can get me there too. Anyway,
we're digressing massively here. But anyway, he's told he can
re apply for tickets for next year.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So when does here's a solution?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I think to this, there is zero chance that a
fan in the front row of a of a game
is not going to attempt to get said foul ball
and the same thing going down the right field.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Ie. Now, like the two idiots.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
In New York last year that grabbed Mookie Betts's arm
and tried to yank his glove off so he wouldn't
catch the foul ball.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's over the that's way over the top.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We're not talking about that, but just casually reaching up
to catch the foul ball, you don't know whether your
arm and your elbow or over the rail or behind
the rail or in front of the rail or whatever.
So let's create some separation. Let's eliminate front rows. Basically,
the front row is the second row of any ballpark.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Now, we're you.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Gonna that's a lot of seats that you can't sell,
but there's not gonna be anybody in front of you.
Just take those seats out and extend the railing to
where you can't reach over it.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Now, maybe that's an expense.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Major League Baseball took forever to put netting down the
right field and left field line for fan safety on
foul balls and broken bats that end up in the
state in the in the stands, so I'm sure it'll
take them forever to implement this. But there are on ballparks,
not all, but a lot of the new ones have
an intermediate wall between the field, the home run fence
and the stands. And even if you reach out, even
(06:10):
if Wimby with his reach reached out, he's not going
to be able to get his arm into the field
to play from that front row seat. So major League
Baseball could be a little bit more uh uh in
the forefront of this and make sure that this doesn't
happen going forward, if they were to create something like that,
(06:31):
because fans, this is not going to stop. And even
Dave mccaskell issued an apology to Arizona Diamondbacks and of
the fans and accepted his rest of the season ban
and accepted his tickets back. But the guy brings a
glove to every game. He's dressed in Arizona gear. He's
got a glove with him. He is a die hard
(06:51):
baseball fan sitting in left field collecting home run balls.
That's the that's the fan that you want. You know,
a lot of people are a corporate season ticket hold.
They buy them, they sit in the box, they show
up in the third ending, they leave in the seventh,
and you know, go Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
They really don't care.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
This guy is a legit, diehard Arizona baseball fan and
goes to a lot of games. So that's the last
guy you want to run off. But you gotta you've
got to be able to create something. Either make the
fence higher, make something to where a player cannot be
interfered with, because they're going to continue to be interfered
with in the true state of the rule.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well that, I mean, that's the first thing I could
think of would be, is you just raise the outfield up,
you know, six six inches maybe even I don't know
if it was the Diamondbacks commentators on TV or if
it was the Giants commentators, they even legit said they
were like, yeah, there was no way Player A was
going to catch that ball anyway, So how can that
(07:49):
be fan interference? I don't know if it's against baseball regulations,
but raise it another foot to where you don't, yeah,
you don't give the player the opportunity to maybe try to.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Rob a home run.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
But either that or I like your idea of, hey,
let's kind of put a little separation in between, or
maybe just as something as stupid as like some type
of plexiglass.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, if you look at look at the foul lines,
basically from now the dugout to almost mid left field
or mid right field, you have netting up. Yeah, and
the netting is up so that the ball can't go
flying two hunred miles an hour into someone's head or
sure or a bat.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Now once you get past, you know, like the last.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Thirty feet towards the poles, the chances of a foul
ball hitting somebody there become significantly less.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So the netting stops. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I think that's what allowed the fans to grab Mookie
Betts last year. I think that's also it's because at
that point you have enough reaction time to where there's
so much like I mean, there's so much feet that
the ball has traveled at that point to where you ninety.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Somebody's see it and get again get in the way
of it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yes, they are going to be Hey, I can see
the ball. I know the ball's coming. Whereas if it's
just right behind home plate or something like that, it's
just it's bang banged.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
There's at least a little bit of reaction to there.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm thinking either raise raised the fences up a little
bit higher, or some type of like plexiglass in front
where like you said, you don't have somebody that has
the capability of reaching over anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I think fans who uh grab players or interfere with
players physically out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So yeah, you don't get to come back no place.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I think a fan that casually reaches over the two
of what everybody else has been kind of born to
do since they became a baseball fan, and that's get
a foul.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Ball or a home run ball. That's part of the
reb of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, as far as something as egregious as banning somebody
for the rest of the season, this has to be
one of the lowest of the low on the totem
poles to where it's like, and I know that the
guy's been I guess.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
In trouble with them quite a few times. This has
happened for consecutive seasons, so.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know he's been talked to, he's talked been talked
about it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Hey, try not to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But again, if you're a die hard baseball fan, you
can't just sit there and say, oh, yeah, I'm now
gonna just stop. My natural reaction is, hey, there's a
home run coming at me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm not gonna let it hit me. I'm just gonna
let it hit me, or I'm just gonna get it
out of the way. I don't care about grab grabb.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Let somebody else get it. Yeaheah, you're, you're, you're now.
Now it's a quest to get everyone that you can get. Yeah,
all right, We've got some more signings from the Dallas
Mavericks that are going to put them close to the
salary threshold and the cap of the apron threshold, and
we'll talk about some more NBA signings and roster movement
and all that coming up on the ticket
We have had over the several years a lot of
players who have complained about fan interference when it comes
to home runs and foul balls. The most famous, I
think would be the Steve Bartman and Moyses Salou situation
in two thousand and three when he went over to
the sidewall to try to catch a foul and obviously
it was another one of the unlucky moments in Chicago
(00:27):
Cub's history when Bartman jumped over this. I don't know
that he went too far to the field to play,
but Lou tried to go into the stands to get
a foul ball and the fan ended up with it.
And I think Steve Bartman should have treated that a
little bit differently. I'd have done every talk show, I'd
held a press conference in front of Wrigley Field and said, yeah,
I was going for the foul ball, as if every
(00:47):
one of you wouldn't have. I didn't know Moses Salu
was going to try to come to the stands. I've
watched that highlight a million times, and there's no way
that even if Steve Bartman wasn't there, that Moses Salu
could be guaranteed to catch that ball. Was just one
of those things that happened. But Steve Bartman's entire life
was pretty much ruined over that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well what is.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What's her name, Susan, right, Susan from the Yankees, Susan Waldman. Yeah,
that's baseball absolutely, And that wasn't the only thing. But yes,
that the Steve Bartman that started a railroad of just
error after in issues after the.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Issues, because the Cubs that were jinks until they finally
won in twenty fifteen or sixteen whenever it was, and
and the Marlins were a well it was it was.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I think that was.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
That was a NLCS game against the Marlins, I believe
that year, and Marlins went on to win the World
Series maybe, And the Marlins had a really good team
that year before they tore it all up and started
over and haven't really been that good since. But anyway,
there's a fan named Dave mccaskell out in Arizona, and
over the course of the last four seasons, Dave mccaskell
has had season tickets in the left field bleachers and
(01:58):
he has caught at least to four home run balls,
and there are some very fine lines of whether he's
reached across into the field of play to snag said
home run balls as the left fielder for the other
team usually is trying to catch it. And the latest
one happened the last week, and he makes this catch,
(02:20):
and I think he was kind of in a gray area,
certainly not one hundred percent in the stands. There are
others that they've shown where I thought he was in
the right to catch the ball, but there's others where
he did lean over so and then the Diamondbacks have
canceled his membership, given his money back, and said you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Come to the ballpark for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Now, I think if you're sitting in the first row
of any bleacher in any ballpark in the world, and
a home run ball comes in your direction, you're not
going to sit there and wait for it to hit
you in the head or the or the chest. You're
going to make an attempt to catch the ball. Now,
you may do it with your hands near your body,
or you may reach out to deflect it if you
don't have a glove, but you may cross that imaginary,
(03:07):
invisible line boundary from time to time.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, but I think that's just your natural reaction as
a baseball fan.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Your inner child.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
To get like foul ball, let me get home run
ball exactly and so, and I've never gotten. I understand
it's a Cubs tradition. If the other team hits a
home run, you throw it back, and now every team
is trying to do it. If I catch a home
run ball, I don't care who catches it. I'm gonna kid.
I would keep it. And when I was a kid,
I would have kept it. Now I would keep it
and give it to a kid because I don't care.
(03:37):
I don't need a home run ball unless it's worth money,
unless it's unless it's got value, and then I'll then
I'll hold it hostage until somebody pays me like everybody
else would.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Unless it's got like Augusta.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No if some type of Augusta claim to it.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
If a Judge hits the seventy fourth home run and
I happen to catch it, Judge is gonna have to
hold me something.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
He's making a gazillion dollar. I can tell you what
it's going to be. It's going to be to play
at Augusta. That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You don't get Aaron, get me on Augusta. You can
have the ball that's it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's it. That's a little easy trade. It's the little
things in life, Randy. It doesn't take much. Andy doesn't
necessarily care.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Call the commissioner at at at Augusta, get me and
three of my best friends on Augusta.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We'll call it today. There you go. That's your pin.
You can have the ball. It can go to the
Hall of Fame, all that kinds. I just want to
play once. That's it, just one round. I don't need
a membership. Oh by the way, you.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Have to make sure that all four of us get
there on your private jet. That's part of the okay,
all right, now we're drawing the left. But the Steinbrenners
have a plane. They can get me there too. Anyway,
we're digressing massively here. But anyway, he's told he can
re apply for tickets for next year.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So when does here's a solution?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I think to this, there is zero chance that a
fan in the front row of a of a game
is not going to attempt to get said foul ball
and the same thing going down the right field.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Ie. Now, like the two idiots.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
In New York last year that grabbed Mookie Betts's arm
and tried to yank his glove off so he wouldn't
catch the foul ball.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
That's over the that's way over the top.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We're not talking about that, but just casually reaching up
to catch the foul ball, you don't know whether your
arm and your elbow or over the rail or behind
the rail or in front of the rail or whatever.
So let's create some separation. Let's eliminate front rows. Basically,
the front row is the second row of any ballpark.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Now, we're you.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Gonna that's a lot of seats that you can't sell,
but there's not gonna be anybody in front of you.
Just take those seats out and extend the railing to
where you can't reach over it.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Now, maybe that's an expense.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Major League Baseball took forever to put netting down the
right field and left field line for fan safety on
foul balls and broken bats that end up in the
state in the in the stands, so I'm sure it'll
take them forever to implement this. But there are on ballparks,
not all, but a lot of the new ones have
an intermediate wall between the field, the home run fence
and the stands. And even if you reach out, even
(06:10):
if Wimby with his reach reached out, he's not going
to be able to get his arm into the field
to play from that front row seat. So major League
Baseball could be a little bit more uh uh in
the forefront of this and make sure that this doesn't
happen going forward, if they were to create something like that,
(06:31):
because fans, this is not going to stop. And even
Dave mccaskell issued an apology to Arizona Diamondbacks and of
the fans and accepted his rest of the season ban
and accepted his tickets back. But the guy brings a
glove to every game. He's dressed in Arizona gear. He's
got a glove with him. He is a die hard
(06:51):
baseball fan sitting in left field collecting home run balls.
That's the that's the fan that you want. You know,
a lot of people are a corporate season ticket hold.
They buy them, they sit in the box, they show
up in the third ending, they leave in the seventh,
and you know, go Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
They really don't care.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
This guy is a legit, diehard Arizona baseball fan and
goes to a lot of games. So that's the last
guy you want to run off. But you gotta you've
got to be able to create something. Either make the
fence higher, make something to where a player cannot be
interfered with, because they're going to continue to be interfered
with in the true state of the rule.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well that, I mean, that's the first thing I could
think of would be, is you just raise the outfield up,
you know, six six inches maybe even I don't know
if it was the Diamondbacks commentators on TV or if
it was the Giants commentators, they even legit said they
were like, yeah, there was no way Player A was
going to catch that ball anyway, So how can that
(07:49):
be fan interference? I don't know if it's against baseball regulations,
but raise it another foot to where you don't, yeah,
you don't give the player the opportunity to maybe try to.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Rob a home run.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
But either that or I like your idea of, hey,
let's kind of put a little separation in between, or
maybe just as something as stupid as like some type
of plexiglass.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well, if you look at look at the foul lines,
basically from now the dugout to almost mid left field
or mid right field, you have netting up. Yeah, and
the netting is up so that the ball can't go
flying two hunred miles an hour into someone's head or
sure or a bat.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Now once you get past, you know, like the last.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Thirty feet towards the poles, the chances of a foul
ball hitting somebody there become significantly less.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So the netting stops. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I think that's what allowed the fans to grab Mookie
Betts last year. I think that's also it's because at
that point you have enough reaction time to where there's
so much like I mean, there's so much feet that
the ball has traveled at that point to where you ninety.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Somebody's see it and get again get in the way
of it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yes, they are going to be Hey, I can see
the ball. I know the ball's coming. Whereas if it's
just right behind home plate or something like that, it's
just it's bang banged.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
There's at least a little bit of reaction to there.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm thinking either raise raised the fences up a little
bit higher, or some type of like plexiglass in front
where like you said, you don't have somebody that has
the capability of reaching over anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I think fans who uh grab players or interfere with
players physically out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So yeah, you don't get to come back no place.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I think a fan that casually reaches over the two
of what everybody else has been kind of born to
do since they became a baseball fan, and that's get
a foul.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Ball or a home run ball. That's part of the
reb of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, as far as something as egregious as banning somebody
for the rest of the season, this has to be
one of the lowest of the low on the totem
poles to where it's like, and I know that the
guy's been I guess.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
In trouble with them quite a few times. This has
happened for consecutive seasons, so.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I know he's been talked to, he's talked been talked
about it.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Hey, try not to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But again, if you're a die hard baseball fan, you
can't just sit there and say, oh, yeah, I'm now
gonna just stop. My natural reaction is, hey, there's a
home run coming at me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm not gonna let it hit me. I'm just gonna
let it hit me, or I'm just gonna get it
out of the way. I don't care about grab grabb.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Let somebody else get it. Yeaheah, you're, you're, you're now.
Now it's a quest to get everyone that you can get. Yeah,
all right, We've got some more signings from the Dallas
Mavericks that are going to put them close to the
salary threshold and the cap of the apron threshold, and
we'll talk about some more NBA signings and roster movement
and all that coming up on the ticket
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