Arrowhead Survival Podcast Ep .4

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Now, let's get started with today's show and welcome back
to the Arrowheade Survival Podcast. Were we talk about guns, god,
survival and everything.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Conversation and controversial.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Oh that's right, controversial on the sometimes with your host
Curtis Burnham and your your guest.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, okay, Jose, Jose, I feel like you did this
on purpose this time. It's actually fine. My name is
burn Em and we're gonna do this every single time.
I think we're gonna actually talk about this every single time.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, you know, at this point it's it's a we need.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
To you know. We love you though, so I do
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Speaker 4 (01:31):
Now that is what we call a professional read way
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Curtis, Oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I love it. I hate burn ham. Burnham sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I like toasted ham toasted.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't know if you if you toast the ham
a little bit and and you make it just a
little bit on the crispy side, it kind of caramelizes it.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Have you ever pan seared spam? I have, Oh yeah,
spamentators spam it with some pineapple.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Spaminators checking out fine Apple. It gives me canger stores
ooh that sucks.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah spam and uh sunnyside up eggs, American cheese and
some toasted white bread.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I gotta go with little cheddar. You know, the one
thing I don't like America is the American cheese.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Get out of here.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
It's the way right cheese. Look, but that's what you
put on burgers. Is American cheese.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It is. But you know what, you have to go
and mix it up a little bit too, depending on
what you're what you're eating.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
You don't have to wait bacon, so you're fine with bacon.
You hate American cheese?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, I never said I hated it. Necessarily, it just
depends on what it's on. You implied you hated American
I implied it, but I did not say it.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Okay, Well, now if you.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
If you record the if you recorded it properly, which
we all know that this studio tends to screw up
my recordings. Oh yeah, apparently, then you will have to
go back and find out whether I said I hated
it or not. So you know what, We're gonna make
a word of the day American cheese. Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
American cheese, American cheese.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Because this is all American show right here, where we
talk about everything controversial and American cheese. We want to
know what your thoughts are on American cheese. So the
word of the day is American cheese.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
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Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, So, so American cheese is our word of the day. Now,
I haven't decided what I'm going to do as our giveaway,
but I'm actually still thinking keeping going that that giveaway
we did last week.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
But considering we got the show that didn't air essentially lastly.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
But you know what here, here's what we'll do is
for the next week. For the next week, So if
you come in and say American cheese, then you will
get a free entry as long as you are twenty
one or over, a free entry to win one of
those a rexes a Rex Delta MS. So no purchase necessary,
but you must come into the store and announce American cheese.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
I love it. Just say American cheese when you walk.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
On American cheese.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
So what are we going? I'm professional, I promise.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I mean, you're supposed to be the most professional here.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Am I?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
No?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
All right? What are we talking about on today's show?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
All right, So today's show, we are going to be
going over the ice riots in Los Angeles with federal
military sponts California government resistance versus federal law enforcement set
expectations for spicy content. So you know, I'm reading this
word for word, and that sounded horrible. But we're gonna
be talking about some spicy content here, and spicy content
is anything that erupts the mind, erupts the mind. You see.

(04:29):
We don't want to erupt the violence. We want to
erupt the mind and get the mind thinking about what's
going on in the mainstream media won't cover. So let's
erupt the mind. Sounds like a good I think we
found a new way of saying that, right, sure, Erupt
the mind.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Disrupt the mind, disrupt, erupt, create a way of thinking,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
So, as we know, we've been kind of creating as
to a Bible verse of the day, and we're gonna
we're gonna use the Bible verse of the day now.
Ian how much more time do we have on this one?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Oh, on this one, we've got about six and a
half minutes before we hit commercial break.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, perfect, So that's going to go and give us
a nice little little bring into our Bible versus the day.
We're to give that and then that's going to go
over our topic for the day of discussing law and
order and how government law coincides with the Bible.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
That sounds like we can do that, right?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Does that sound good? So I think we're gonna have
Ian because Ian last week did the best job at
reading the Bible verse. So he's going to go in
and do that for us today. And he's gonna be
going over Romans thirteen one and two.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
All right, Romans thirteen one, verse two.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, Romans thirteen one through two to two.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Oh, I can do that. Romans thirteen to one through two.
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities. For there
is no authority except that which God has established. The
authorities that exist been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels
against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted,
and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

(06:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So the key points that I get from this, and
I'm sure ose here we can You'll see Will will
agree with me on this one? Would you what is
your what is your opinion on respecting lawful authority?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
I mean it's absolutely necessary, regardless of you know, whether
you agree with him or not politically. Uh. When Biden
was president. At my church, we prayed for him every
Sunday in his administration.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
So would you say respecting lawful authority is also honoring
God's order?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Absolutely, of course it's if it's in the Lord's words.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
So yeah, quite literally the Lord's words. So you know,
what about you know, if we're talking about violence, because
right now, these are not peaceful protests. These are rioters.
These are rioters actually going against the law and order.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
You were talking about spicy? Can I say something spicy?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Make it spicy?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I don't think they're rioters. I think they are insurrectionists.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know, that is definitely a good word for it,
because that's what they've used that word for other things.
And we're not going to bring that part of it
up too far because it is an insurrection among the law.
So being here illegally, I mean it is, it is
a part of the law. Okay.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
So I'm gonna play a little bit of the Devil's
advocate with that.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, you are kind of the devil, thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm the White Dogs.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
And Jose here we have him as our our.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
I am the Mexican resident of you know, I'm going
to be asked about what it is like to be
Mexican and America and actually American.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
So I don't think these right in my opinion, they're
not all illegal immigrants in these riots. You have a
lot of American citizens as a part of these, a
lot of who have friends, potentially family who are going
through this, and there's a lot of heated emotions going on.

(08:19):
Now that being said, you don't riot, no, But.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
At the same time, I noticed Hose said liberals. You know,
I try to keep the liberal and conservative out of
it as much as possible, because when you think about it,
being American is about being centered, being able to respect
other people's rights while still having your own rights. So
as much as the First Amendment, which we talked about
last week, is important, if you start the damaging property,
which brings us into another point is you know they're

(08:44):
only molotov molotov cocktails at federal agents. I mean that
where we're going to go a little bit deeper in that,
because that's rebelling against God himself. Now, now we have
other government officials that are are saying that this is
a peaceful act, and this is that they're just they're
just running around on having fun. I remember a news
network actually came out this is why we don't trust
the news is they openly said that this is a

(09:06):
This is just a bunch of people running around having fun.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I mean, with a picture of one of those burning
self driving taxis morny in the background.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Exactly. Who who does that? Who just says I'm going
to go and disrupt and destroy private property.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Look, man, I just lovemores and sometimes I need to
make a fire in order to burn my marshmallows properly.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, but that would not taste good.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
You don't know that.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
That's why you have.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
To, you know, set a car on fire so you could,
you know, I want it's fun.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Now, we are telling anyone to go on a lot
of fire, a lot of car.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Disclaimer at the beginning of the episode, we are not
saying that is the right way to make smars. In fact,
there's a good chance you might get some sort of poisoning.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
A lot of bad chemicals.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
But I think people start gathering and we have the
right to peacefully gather. That's an American right, right, correct, Yes,
we can gather. It is one of the things that
we can do. The problem is when it turns violent,
things start being destroyed, people start getting looted business owners,

(10:19):
not just national companies like Apple or home Depot, there's
local businesses that are getting destroyed during these kind of riots,
and that's that's a big issue.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
So they're fighting and destroying the American dream sometimes yeah, yeah,
So I mean this, this is this honestly the Biblical
principles applied directly to California, right. I mean, this whole
situation is the idea that one you're you're going against
God's order of obeying local and federal law, which we
know that federal law is this is and local law

(10:52):
is this is illegal. This is destruction of property, This
is not protecting.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Anybody cannot go this far. The second it becomes a
riot and things are getting destroyed and looted, the entire
idea and principle of why the gathering even started gets
thrown in the trash.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
In my opinion, you lose the people and you can't
support what you're doing with violence.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
No, no, And the thing is, not all of California
supports this, Like we were talking about last time, there's
a good chunk of California that are good people that
don't want to see this stuff. This is an LA issue.
It is We're being honest.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
This is not just an LA issue. This is a
California government issue. Because I believe that the California and
like you said, this is a belief, but it's also
true the California government is inciting this issue.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Well, and unfortunately we're gonna have to hold off just
a second for the commercials. We'll get to it right
after this. Okay, and we're back.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Welcome back to the Arrowhead Survival Podcast.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
This is why we don't have eat and bring us in.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
That's all right, it's too much fun. We have way
too much fun during those commercial breaks. Sorry guys, Yeah,
you don't.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
You don't even want to listen to what we were
talking about. It had a lot to do with God's
word and everything you don't want to hear about, Jose.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh no, So moving on, what's the main content for today's.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Well, now we're gonna go on the ice operations, So
the initial ice go the ice operations, So Jose's going
to kind of go over a little basis of this
involving the different arrests and everything else going on.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, there's I mean, yeah, there's been a lot you know,
through throughout.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
And by the way, we have to have Jose read
this because he is our resident Mexican American.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yes, yes, he is also the official newsreader of WFLA
and Tallahassee.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah. I don't know if we should announce that part though.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
They all know where he's from. Man listening to the show,
they know, they know exactly they know. And keep in mind,
you can catch Jose most FSU tailgates during football season
if you want to give him a piece of your mind.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh yeah, so what you're telling me is I should
join you on these tilgates.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
No, no, I can't leave. You can't have fun with that.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
But what if I came wearing a b Well.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
Then that sounds like a plot line of some sort.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
That would be scary.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
We got to delete that. When you're listening back, delete
this about any talk of cum.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
There's about one hundred and nineteen coming where though, like.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
We are deleting the last thirty seconds starting right now.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Jose, Yeah, no, no, you need to just edit those
words now. No, you just need to change the word
out instead of using the actual word. You need to
go boom and we're back.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Everybody's the arrowheads for Vival podcast.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Thanks for editing out those words.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I had a few slips, so this would be Ian's
fault this time.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
What one hundred percent?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
But we love it. We love you Ian. So so
now Jose, can you go over our are our little
Ice operations?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Right?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
So the Ice Operations has they've made one hundred and
eighteen raids so far, you know, routine federal law enforcement raids.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Now we know that number is going to go up
by the time we read this. So just know that
this this is pre recorded, so some of the information
that we put in here is not accurate.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, and most of the people that are targeted aren't
law abiding citizens. They are, as a matter of fact,
violent criminals with histories of murder, rape, and robbery, not
minor immigration violations. You know, we're talking about serious stuff here.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
So when Newsome comes on the news yesterday and he
says that most of these raids are happening around people
that are not violent criminals are what we're saying is
that that's untrue. That is a lie.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
That is a lie, unequivocally a lie. Yep, that is
a false wow in every sense.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
But at the same time, if they're not lawbreakers, but
aren't they here illegally?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
That's right, yep, that's right.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
That is something that Trump has been saying since the
very beginning. We're going after criminals first and and then
the ones that are here illegally will be next. You know,
I don't think this is helping their calls. You know,
if you want to stay here in this country, the
best thing to do is just to do rob And
I think that is why it is extremely important that

(16:29):
no violence is done to these people, because they're they're
just doing their sworn duty.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
That is being sworn in to uphold the law, which
the law is if you are here here illegally, then
you aren't supposed to be here, simply put right, absolutely so,
So why injure those that are just here to protect
the community for what they are hired to do. And

(16:56):
and the problem comes in and I remember listening to
our wonderful governor here in Florida, mister DeSantis. I love
Dessentis for a lot of these things, but all he's
saying is, oh man, my mind went blank on what
I was trying to say.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
All DeSantis is saying, So.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
What the Santus is saying is that if local government.
And this is also one thing Trump said, if local
government so, and actually he wasn't, Rhonda Santis. So Rhonda
Santis comes up and says, if a mayor of a
community is not doing his job to protect its citizens,
and if the sheriff isn't protecting your citizens, and if
the governor isn't protecting a citizens, then it's the responsibility

(17:40):
of the president and the United States government is there
to protect the citizens. Now, yes, we are all separated
between behind communities, and we're separated behind our governor and
our each state. But here's the problem. If we're not
being protected by our local government, then it is the

(18:01):
president's job, as the elect official, the elected individual, to
protect our communities. Correct. Correct, So in this case, if
the communities are being destroyed and the governor of California
is not doing his job, then is it the job
of the president to send in those who can enforce

(18:23):
the law. What do you think, Ian, I know that's
why I pulled you in because you were too busy
looking at your phone.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, guys, I was trying to look up
a little bit more information about the ice. A lot
of behind the glass doing productions stuff exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
But that's why we also call you out.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
A lot of people don't know this. We talked about
this actually on the show today. This isn't the first
time this has happened. Now, there's been many cases where
the National Guard has been called to cities, and like
Preston said, they are mostly cities that are Democrat run
where all this kind of violence takes place, and we

(19:06):
see that recently as well.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Now again we have to we have to notate that
this is all personal opinion, right, right. You don't want
people just like to push the Democrat or Republican I really,
I really don't want to do it. It's just it's
just the way the chips is exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I'm not trying to, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
But also, but also if we look at it is
the areas that this is happening, not just Democrat run.
But let's go with more of the anti gun. I mean,
we're work show that talking about guns, right, so all
of these areas are anti gun. You can't have a
conciled weapon, you can't have any weapons of any kind.
But here's here's the problem. Hundreds of protests are surrounding
federal buildings. By Friday, this was by Friday, they were

(19:41):
surrounding federal buildings, not local buildings, federal buildings. DHS reports
one thousand riders or a nexus of one thousand riders
and engaging in violence using weapons against federal agents molotov cocktails, rocks,
and concrete chunks. So you you have p people using

(20:02):
home built weapons, you have people using rocks, chunks of concrete,
and anything else that can be used to cause damage
to life and property. And yet we're not supposed to
protect ourselves. We're not supposed to be able to protect ourselves.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
So right now I want to give some updated numbers
from what I'm looking up right now, and you have
a point. Right now, we are looking at a total
of three hundred and thirty eight arrests since Friday. Wow,
there are as of right now other cities that are
about to start these same sorts of rallies. You're looking

(20:38):
at Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, San Francisco, Seattle, Boston,
New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Chicago, and Atlanta, all places where
people are about to start gathering or have already started gathering.
Not saying there's riots at those other locations, yet there was,

(20:59):
but it is getting pretty ugly.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
We want you to be safe, and we want you
if you gounda if you're gonna go to these rallies,
please please please stay peaceful. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Actually, matter what side you're on, I don't care what.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Side you say, piece is important stay peaceful against those
that don't believe what you believe, because one thing about
this country is we're we're. It is a fundamental right
to have your own beliefs. So I'm supporting your belief,
whether I believe in it or not myself. I'm supporting
your idea of belief. But I'm not gonna incite violence
on anybody. And I will tell you right now, do

(21:35):
not engage. The best thing you can do is walk away.
Oh yeah, walk away, that's right now.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
The good news is there have been absolutely no deaths
attributed to any of this right now in LA.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
But there's been injuries.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
There have been injuries. Because you throw rocks at people,
people are gonna get hurt.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Now, now let's go a little further on it. California.
We're discussing California here and their anti gun and anti
weapon laws. But they're these the these criminals, is what
I'd like to call them because they're using weapons against people.
They're they're intending to cause harm. Whether they say they
are or not, they are intending cause harm. So what
they're using is so in California fireworks other than what

(22:14):
they call them is California legal fireworks, safe fireworks, they
don't you know, they're not projectiles or anything like that.
So what they're doing is they're using illegal fireworks to
as explosives. They're they're blocking the one to one freeway.
They're blocking actual freeways and we as we call them
freeways in California, not highways. And they're preventing emergency vehicle access.
That is intentionally causing harm. That is violence, that is dangerous,

(22:39):
that is not okay.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Right, And it's real funny when they go when one
of them gets injured and they need medical assistance and
they're like, where are the emblances, It's like, hello, buddy,
you guys got the whole street block. Now what if
someone dies medical services here? You need to assist your
friend yourself.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Now, Now what if you're having a hard tech and
you can't get a medical vehicle there? Would that be
considered murder?

Speaker 4 (23:05):
That's a gray area, I think at that point, I
mean exactly accessory manslaughter.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think that you made an accessory.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Access rate of manslaughter because it's not intentional. So in
my opinion, obviously, like we said, we're not lawyers, but
if you're halting medical aid to somebody who desperately needs
medical aid.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, well, and then we got the criminal activities along
with it, widespread looting of businesses, that's theft. We're almost
done here and so we'll go over the next ones
and the next items over then the after the commercial break.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah, thank you for joining us, everybody, and we'll be
right back with you. Hang tight.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
So I'd like to welcome you back to the Arrowheads
Survival Show where we talk politics, guns, religion, god, the Bible,
and everything controversial. Right now, we are doing going over
a very controversial situation in California as well as throughout
the country where we got widespread looting, uh business of
businesses like the Apple Store, Adida's Outlet, jewelry stores, pharmacies,

(24:45):
multiple arson incidents, dumpter dumpster fires and this is quite
literally a dumpster fire situation. But you know, vehicle fires,
property destruction, and graffitian vandalism. Every one of those being
a massive.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah yeah, Curtis, Can I circle back to one thing
before we drive too far away from it.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I'm gonna say no, but I'm gonna allow it, Okay, perfect.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Uh the Fed. We're talking about federal agents and stuff
doing their duty. I don't know if people know this,
but the Marines and pretty much every branch of the
military are sworn to protect America from enemies foreign and domestic.
So for everybody saying, oh, this is the Marines are
an overseas fighting force, uh no, sorry, they were. They

(25:34):
were sworn to protect us not just from foreign enemies,
but domestic as well. And if you become a domestic terrorist,
tearing up.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Protect America from the National Guard is quite literally to
guard the nation, right, I mean it's in their name, right,
I mean we're calling the National Guards to protect our
our our American citizens. Wow. Yeah, what a concept, right, right?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Insane?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
You know, And and them symbol is the simplesm of
the contradictions that are going on here. I mean, it's
it's bad. It is absolutely horrible. So you know, we
got a lot of symbolic contradictions, and you know, I'd
like Hosea to to read this one too. Again because
it sounds better coming from his mouth than mine, because
I'm you know, I I just sound completely racist when

(26:16):
I say this kind of stuff. Party mouth, it's actually
not party at all? Is that you got all that?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
So so this first one, it breaks my heart. Uh,
it truly does to see these people who have probably
been in America for quite some time, uh, these Mexican
Americans or well, and claiming that they want to stay here,
right and in many cases they're Venezuelans or Colombians, but
either way illegal nonetheless, and they are burning the American.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Flag now, now, Ken, I'm gonna make a comment on
this one as well, because burning the flag as wrong
as it is, I also believe that using the flag
as a cape is just as wrong. So if you're
using the flag as a cape, then aren't you disrespecting
the flag just as much? Because the flag is not
a cape.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Well, there are a whole list of written rules, but
there's nothing illegal about doing certain things. Burning the flag
is obviously extremely disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
You're also not supposed to use it as a symbol
during sports programs, and we do that, so I can't
I'm not going to speak too much on.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
That but that's why I'm stating this here is the
idea that if you're getting upset with someone burning the flag,
then you should be just as upset with the people
that are using it as a cape.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
I disagree, because it's all about intention. At that point,
it is intention. But if that wearing of the flag
is also inciting violence, h, I guess, I guess you
might have a point.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'm going to wear the flag into a protest to
tell people to stop protesting.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have to stay consistent here and
agree with Curtis for the sole purpose of you know,
consistency and if you are going to fly the flag
in a protest kind of like this. The next topic.
As a matter of fact, these people, these rioters, these
Mexicans are holding up their flags. They're holding up the

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Mexican flag and waving them around. Uh and they're from.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Okay. So so what you're saying is the contradiction of
praise Mexico. Mexico is great, I love Mexico. Don't send
me back to Mexican.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, well, pretty much what I was saying it was,
they are they are waving those flags respectfully, they got
them on flag posts you know, they're not like wearing them,
but they want to stay here having them touch the
ground or anything like that. So yeah, that is a
huge contradiction.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
So they want to stay here and and respect the
American flag, but they're disrespecting American flag there.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
They're here respecting their own flag.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
They're showing more respect for their flags in our country
when they ran away from their country.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
This is all now, let me ask you, okay, So okay,
so here we are, here, we are we're talking. Okay.
This is why I love Jose so much, is because
he is the epitome of an amazing American. I love
this man to death. I want you to tell me
the story that you told me earlier while we were
standing outside before the show.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Oh boy, you are testing my memory, young man, about
your father. Oh yes, yes, yes, my father. My grandfathers
were just aggressively American. One of them's from Mexico, the
others from Cuba, and I mean, they just they love
this country. They came here the right way. They did
everything right. They waited, they paid, they learned. One of

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my grandfathers went into the Navy. As a matter of fact,
he loved his country so much that he wanted to
serve it. He didn't care about money or going to
college or traveling the world. He just wanted to serve
his country. And this was a man from Mexico.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's amazing. And then what about you said your father
was from Cuba.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, my father was born in Havana, Cuba, and they
swam over here. I'm just kidding. My grandfather says they
took a plane, but I don't believe any hut. So, yeah,
my grandfather left Cuba, a line of doctors came to America,
loved it so much that he says, you know what,
I'm not forced to be a doctor like I was
in Cuba. I'm gonna be a business man. And he

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opened up a tire shop, a gas station, and you
know that ran that for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
And you see, this is the exact idea and the
exact definition of the American dreams.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
You know, we have the American dreams sitting right here.
The American dream is about success in life, about you know,
being there for others, about being there for your family,
but also respecting the country, respecting the country that you love.
And in this case, we were talking about it earlier with
these rioters destroying small businesses. Well those small businesses, there's

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the other irony behind, and the contradiction is they're they're
destroying small businesses of the people. They're claiming the ice
is coming in and taking those businesses, the people in
those businesses.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
And did you see the case where there was a
Venezuelan business owners, you know, the migrants they were taking
in police officers that were pepper sprayed, and.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
They're cleaning them up and feeding them and feeding them
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
And I mean like that that because of love is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
That is that is God's plan, right, that that is
what God wants us to do.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, for for and and you know, I only brought
up liberals because in my experience personally, people like this
have always been liberals of a certain gender and a
certain race, uh, white white female liberals.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So the Karen k we're talking about the Karens.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, well, you know, Karen's Karen out there.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
We're not insulting Karen specifically. So if your name is Karen,
we apologize now already.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Because what's just just terribly hilarious is that these you know,
mostly and because they're not all, but mostly white liberals.
They are like forcefully trying to protect people.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
That don't want their protection. Well, and on top of
it all is we have the whole you know, justice
for immigrants, you know, is what they're going for. Justice
for immigrants, Justice for immigrants. But they're stealing electronics and
stealing everything else that they're they're claiming to to but
they're not criminals. Well here's I think we got a
little off topic. That's what we do with the passionate

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and the k word, the karens. The big issue. It's
not about being fair to immigrants. Immigrants come over here properly.
They're immigrants. They've come over, they've gone through the paperwork,
they have their green card, they have whatever, the work visa,
they have all this stuff that's an immigrant. There is

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a difference. And I have had friends of mine who
are left and I'm pretty left to be fair. However,
there really are You cannot say illegal immigrant. I've been
told that it's like, no, they're here illegal illegal.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
They're illegal. They're breaking the law actively by being in
the country exactly. That's what happened in Bolder, that's now
happening in La Guess what That doesn't mean only immigrants
are the ones breaking the law. What it does mean
is that they're here they shouldn't be fix it either
make it so we do something to get them to

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become legal or to send them back. I'm only a
second generation American. My grandma came over on the boat,
so I've been there. There's a lot of people I
know who have been here a lot longer than me.
Family wise, you have to do it the right way.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
But you see, this has proved that no matter what
color of your skin, we're all immigrants. We are all
immigrants since yeah we're descendants. Yeah, we love immigrants. Immigrants
they come to this country. Like you said, I also
love ignorance. By the way, I'm sorry I had to
add that one in there.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, but they come to this country and and they
they a lot of them are insanely successful exactly. I
mean just wildly successful. And he'll look at Elon Musk, right,
and let's be here honest. We live in Florida.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Florida is one of the nicest states to immigrants, especially Cubans.
Oh yeah, we have the law where that they're coming
over and they touch land, they stay.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah with it.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I don't agree with you, I get.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
It, but they're escaping communism and at this point those
people over there didn't vote for it, right, So I
can't be upset with those people who are like, I'm
stuck here. I need to get out.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
So since we're talking about Florida now, I do want
to pull it away from California a little bit because
we've kind of gone really hard on how horrible California is.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Well it's pretty easy to it, really is.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
So now we're going to go about how great Florida
is because that is our state. That is our home
right now, well that is our home period. I mean
I'm not I'm not planning on change anytime soon. So
in regards to riots, Florida's anti riot legislation. The great
thing about this one is the Stantis taut It as
the strongest anti rioting, pro law enforcement piece of legislation
in the country. So that means that he's protecting the

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American citizens, he's protecting the Florida citizens. So it's known
as the Anti Riot Law Florida's Combating Public Disorder Act
House Bill one, done in twenty twenty one. Now the
key points to this one. So the points on this
law are The new law enhances penalties for crimes committed
during a riot or violating protest. It allows authorities to

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hold arrested protesters until a first court appearance, and establishes
the new felonies for organizing or organizing or participating in
a violent demonstration. Now we're going to go over this
a little bit further. That's just the first takeaway of it.
And Jose would you like to tick us out?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, and thank you very much for joining us. Everybody
stick with us here, we'll be right back after well

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we're crimed sometimes, welcome back, everybody.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Thank you for sticking with.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Us and holding through them.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Rakes. All right, so right before we went over am,
if I can say what is hard? What was this hard?

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Are you illegal?

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I don't speak sometimes my speech. Nope, please allow allow what.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I speak for all Mexicans. And I say, it's it's
good you.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Speak for all that right there was racist.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I mean, that's like me saying I speak for all
white people. Man. That is even worse.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Oh wow, there's a lot of bad white people out
there there, really are. You're going over the key provisions, right,
you said that the new line enhances. The new law
well enhances penalties for crime committed during the riots and
violent protests. Keep going with that.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
So among the new crimes spelled out by the sweeping
measure are aggravated riots writing a felony, and a mob intimidation,
a first degree misdemeanor in which three or more people
use violence or the threat of it to change someone's views.
Other existing misdemeanors, such as a blocking the highway during

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a demonstration, have been bumped up to felonies, and under
an unfortunate aspect of the law is that once a
protest is deemed a riot, arrested individitals will not be
eligible for BELL until their first court appearance.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
So here's the thing. When does a protest become a
riot by law? Can one of you guys looked that
up real quick? Jose, I think you got the computer open,
can you? When does it become a riot? When does
a protest officially become a riot by the law? You know,
because that I do not. Well, let's go with the
legal agree with everything that Dissantis did there.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Well, let's go let's go with the legal definition of
a riot. You want to read that one for me.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
So the legal definition of a riot is a person
commits a riot if he or she willfully participates in
a violent public disturbance involving an assembly of three or
more persons acting with a common intent to assist each
other in violent and disorderly contact, a conduct resulting in
a injurying to injury to another person, property, or c

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an imminent danger or injury to another person or damage
to property.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Is that essentially what you found there right?

Speaker 3 (38:38):
So well, essentially, But to answer your question, a protest
transitions into a riot when acts of violence, property damage,
or looting occur within a group of people who are protesting,
specifically when three Yeah, okay, it gets into some definition.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
So I do kind of want to go over because
I know we're I know we're running short on time.
This is our last portion of the segment, and we
might go over this more on our next episode. I
think that it might be wise because there's a lot
of content to cover. There's a lot, So we're going
to go over the Florida self defense self defense laws
for listeners. So self defense law that was bad.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
You'll do it one day. Hold on Florida self defense
laws for listeners. Sand your Ground Law Florida Statute seven
seven six point zero one three. There it is.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Now, Ian's gonna go ahead and go over this one here,
Thanks head thirty on the spot.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I'm gonna go ahead and read right off the paper.
Florida Stand your Ground Law, officially codified as Florida Statute
Section seven seven six point zero one three, was passed
in two thousand and five. It is also the envy
of most other states that love self defense, which is
all of them. I hope the law allows individuals to
use force, including deadly force, in situations where they believe

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there might be an imminent risk of death or great
bodily harm to themselves without having to retreat from the threats.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So the Florida Standard Ground law goes further, eliminating the
duty to retreat in situations where a person faces a
threat or harm, regardless of whether there's they are inside
their home or any public place.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
As opposed to the other place as the other states.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
As we talked last week, we talked a lot about
right to bear and the reason why right to bear
sponsors our show, and we love right to bear because
in this case, a firearm isn't your only weapon? Right?
So correct? If Lanna was on here, I'm sure that
she would say, but we're not saying Laana would say
this one. But technically, if your vehicle is used to

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get yourself out of a violent situation, then it is
used as a weapon. Correct, that's right. So if you
were surrounded by a mob of protesters, a mob of
rioters who are trying to cause harm to you, and
you had to mow them down, technically, based off of this,
then right to bear would protect you technically possibly.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
I don't want to speak for Lana. I imagine they
would because that's what they do. The problem I think
we have is that people tend to jump to conclusions
very quickly.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
They do.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Now, if they're shaking your car and hitting your windows,
get going.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
But if you feel if you feel threatned as well,
I mean, you're they're blocking the highway, they're blocking the road,
they're preventing you from getting out of there safely. Then again,
you know, this is why we put the disclaimer in
the beginning of the show, because we are not giving
you legal advice. Please do not take this as legal advice.
We are not telling you to more people down.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
So this is this is where it gets grey, okay,
and this is where I like the idea of making
felonies out of riots and things like that. I do
not agree with the portion where it says blocking highways
because you can block a highway just fine without hurting anybody,
and you're putting your life in peril doing it because
you could get hit by a truck something. But at

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the same time, it's not causing violence at that time.
So making that a felony I think is a little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
But there's another factor to it. Great, right, there's there's
the gray area. But the gray area also comes in
with you know, the key requirements. There's some key legal
requirements on there. So you must be in a place
you're illegally allowed to be on the road driving your
your vehicle is supposed to be able to drive on
the road freely. So then you must reasonably believe deadly
force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm.

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So if someone's blocking you and you've got a group
surrounding your vehicle, I mean personally I would be terrified.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Well, also, and you brought a really good point is
that if people are blocking an interstate, a highway whatever.
They are essentially stopping people that are in emergencies that are,
you know, sick or whatever. So possibly somebody may die,
you know, due to the fact that the highway is
being blocked. Maybe not directly from the people.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
But that goes into what we talked about in the
last second, but that.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Goes further too. So also to protect yourself, to protect
yourself in this situation, you cannot be engaged in criminal
activity yourself. True, right, So if you are already engaged
in this riot, you're already engaged in criminal activity. Correct.
If you are blocking the road, you're already engaging in
criminal activity.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I mean, here's the problem. This is where the gray
area is. What if I'm one of the peaceful people
on the sidewalk, I'm where I'm at it during this
whole rally and this rally, all of a sudden, a
big group from the rally decides they're gonna go start
doing this stuff over there now because I'm in the area.
Am I part of a riot or.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
What is your opinion? Not guilty by association?

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I don't think I'm guilty by associating.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, But the best bet at that point is to
get your butt out of there because it is now
turned violent and so it is now your choice to
stay or not.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, and and and also there's when when you're blocking
off a part of an interstate for rioting or protesting whatever,
that you don't block off the the uh the off
ramps in and turn on to the to the highway
like the state would if they were doing road work,

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they would shut off you know some you know roads
that turn onto the interstate and whatnot, they block those off.
So there has been you know times where they're you know,
been protesting in the highway, somebody had no idea. They
go on to the off ramp and then accident accidentally
mowed down people that are protesting. And like you said, Ian,

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I've seen where people were just standing off to the side.
They weren't even in the middle of the interstate. And
because the guy swerved, he had no idea coming off
into the interstate that there was blocked off. He swerved
and hit a bunch of people that, like you were saying,
and that's we're just standing there and not not really
doing anything. But it's it'd be really really smart to

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not be anywhere near that that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Well, here's the problem, right, So when these kind of
demonstrations happen, I don't know what you're pointing at. Uh,
when you're pointing at their curtis, I'm sorry. So okay,
so let's transition a little bit like you, like you said.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, we need to transition a little bit into the
idea that we've been talking about not protesting and going
against protesters. But what about protecting yourself if you want
to protest? Because whether you're left, right, centered, up, down, green, black, white, green, yellow, whatever,
I don't care what you are. But if you need
to protest, if you feel the need to protest, if
you want to protest, protesting is your right as an

(45:28):
American citizen. But do it correctly. So little key, key
ideas that you may consider. Again, not attorneys. I'm going
to make sure you know this. We are not giving
you legal advice. Again. These are just little ideas of
how you might be able to protect yourself. So if
you're going to protest, you should consider taking the taking
several steps to protect yourself and lessening chances of arrest

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during a demonstration. Keep off roads to lessen the potential
of blocking traffic, Do not engage to get into an
altercation with your with counter protesters. Retreat from situations is
what I just mentioned, right, If it goes into that situation,
it gets if it gets violent, leave where an individual.
So retreat from situations and individual becomes a violent or

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threatens violence. Now at the same time, document any threats
or aggressive behavior, call law enforcement immediately if threatened. So
if you are a protester, this is where you can
protect yourself too. Instead of going and fighting back because
someone threatens you, if someone on the opposite side threatens
you or gets violent or starts yelling at you or whatever,

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just be smart, do not engage. Just be smart, Do
not engage, because that's what they're looking for. They want
you to get fired up. No, I guess that again,
no matter which side it is, And we hear this
a lot. I heard this on the announcement from some
newsom yesterday. Is he said, well Trump is just inciting violence. Well,

(46:57):
at the same time, aren't you insiding violence? So but
another one is know your rights under both Castle doctrine
and stand your ground, avoid and you put protest activity
that could be considered as riot participation. That's which we
had more time to really go over I really do too.
Got the hour, so we're just about done, aren't we.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Do you want to go over this stuff in the
next episode.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I think we should. I think we should go a
little bit deeper into the next episode. And I'm gonna
try to get Lana in here again, because I think
this is where we can really start going deeper into
the topic.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
If we can get her in that'd be great. Maybe
another guest as well. Maybe we can have a little
bit of a Tallahassee roundtable kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I think that would be great. Let let's see what
Let's see who else we can get in here. I'm
gonna go ahead and talk to a couple of people
locally and see what we can do.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
All right, well, I'm going to go solf the port
and uh, we'll.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Be right back. This is the end of the show
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