October 20, 2025 • 43 mins
Tim Allen & Hunter Baumgardt recap the 2025 Brewers season and look towards the future! They take your calls & texts as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well it's five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You've made it through your Monday and that's a good thing.
Couple of Monday night football games on the docket for tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
But welcome in everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Drew and KB move aside, and we're gonna Brewers wrap
up this thing.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Tim Allen Hunter bombgart here on the Game Network in
the iHeartRadio app and Dust is still settling for Brewers fans. Hunter,
It's really comes down to this at this point, what
do you take away from this season? And it comes
down to, you know, the fun factor. We all know
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this was a fine fun summer.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It just really was.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
There were the twists and turns and the riggers of
a long baseball season and really a long calendar, you know,
six and a half months, and if you tack on
spring training, the journey gets even longer than that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It was.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was a grind here for everybody, fans, players, the media,
and but what do you have to find positive things
to take away? You can't just you know, and again
I'm disappointed in the fact that, you know, another year
goes by and not a World Series appearance. But at
some point you're gonna have to let that go by
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the wayside a little bit here, And you know, Craig
Counsel set it years ago. Our exit did not take
away the fun we had on the journey, and I
always remembered that from Craig Counsel. There were a few
things that he that he has said and done that
I do appreciate still as much as we dislike his
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decisions at times, but those comments I think carry me
a little bit here Hunter in terms of, hey, this
was kind of cool and all the storylines that go
into the somewhat special season.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean it was totally.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Special, but it was somewhat special all those storylines, and
we have to find things in a positive nature to
take away from this season.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We just do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
There's no doubt there are so many positives from this season.
It's as much as yes, the World Series is the
ultimate goal. You got within the final four. It hurts
to be one step away from getting back to that
again for the first time since nineteen eighty two. I
know that is, you know, kind of a lasting feeling,
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and we all were dreaming as the season goes on,
but we all, I feel like Brewis fans as much
as we were looking forward to that. I think we
also enjoyed the moment a lot this year and enjoyed
those special moments and enjoyed the fourteen game winning streak,
and there's just so many miz and the whole deal
and turning around the season from late May. I mean,
you're April and May we're talking not good. I mean
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there were times you're talking selling, you're talking you know future,
you're talking. Is this just a you know, was last
year supposed to be kind of the gap year, so
to speak, where you kind of rebuilt and see what
you got in Pat Murphy And maybe it's this year
instead of last year?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Was last year in adverorition? I mean, all those things were.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Being talked about in April and May, and then they
switched it into the best regular season of all time
for the Milwaukee Brewers, and that as much as you
don't want to, you know, lose before your ultimate goal
in the postseason, that in and of itself, that summer
is going to be one you look back on. And
I've already seen so many text calls, whatever it happens
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to be, people on social media saying I've i haven't
had that much fun watching Brewers baseball in a very
long time. And that is what you can take from
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You're right, Hunter, that's spot on. And you know, I
was looking through my notes of the season, and as
you guys know, I take notes on every game, my notes,
not media notes, not the game notes, just my own
game notes. You know, I put the date, I put
the game number, what series it is, what road trip
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or home stand it is, put pertinent details in there.
But then I, you know, I just give my notes
on big sixth inning and things like that Murphy decision,
question mark question, you know, those types of things. And
I noticed a pattern from about late June all the
way into August, and I kept putting pinch yourself because
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it was going so quickly. It just got going. It's
it's a baseball season is long, and I understand that,
but it also can fly by before you know it.
If you don't pay attention to it and have a
little fun while you're doing it, it'll it'll it'll cheat
you out of some fun. That calendar will be be
your enemy. And so it's it's much like an NFL season.
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What do we talk about with the NFL? You get
training camp, the OTA is a training camp, and you
get ready and roster sizes and things like that, and
of your fantasy football players are all getting ready to go.
And now we get Sundays with football and you know,
the preseason games, and then before you know it, where
are we at now?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And they have a week eight week number eight.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
There's our eighteen weeks ye right way there.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes, and in a way that can happen with a
baseball season. So and I know that you and I
and pipe Bomb on the postgame show, we kept reminding
people of that, and most of that wasn't reminding Brewer fans,
was reminding ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean, I remember standing an American family field after
those two games of the NLDS, the first two where
you blew out the Chicago Cubs in the playoffs in
Milwaukee and saying, it's just no matter what happens in
the rest of the series. And it got ten, you
is obviously the Cubs tied it and you come back
home for game and that was another one of those moments.
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But those first two games, again, when you're sitting in
January and you're watching the snowfly, you're dreaming of what
a Brewer's baseball season can consist of beating the Cubs
in the playoffs is one of the top things you
can picture.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And that happened this year.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, outside of appearing in the World Series.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
St me take that off the table.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
One of the biggest moments, or probably the biggest moment
you could find is eliminating the Cubs ending their season
right exactly, and especially how you did it. I mean,
that's even better. There's the evil side of me. You
didn't just sweep them out and then bye bye and
then they're gone and they knew it. You actually hammered
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them for a couple of games, then gave them hope
and then took it away.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You just didn't take it away.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You started taking it away then let them back in
and that's that would It had to be crushing for
that organization. So that was an accomplishment, you know, advent
of Now we're getting into detail. You know Andrew Vaughan
and what he did, the emergence of Jacob Mazerowski and
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all the injuries to bookend the season. I mean, all
of those things, the winning streaks, all of those Chad
Patricks and you know abnue Reeve stepping up. Look a
look at Aaron Ashby had a fantastic season, and I
know people get on him for his postseason play, but
he had a remarkable season and that that should.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Give us some hope too.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So there were so many things that happened this year
that you need to find a way, or at least
I do. I'm just speaking for myself now, and that
is find a way to pull those positives out of
this thing. And there are a lot to choose from.
There really are.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, I'm going to read you quote from Pat Murphy
about the type of situation that the Brewers are in now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He said it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Earlier this season about mid season on how the organization
has to do things. Quote who the guy is, what
makes him tick? That's going to be really important for
teams like us. You know, you have the deck stacked
against you a little bit. In Major League Baseball. If
you don't have the payroll and you don't have the
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big market, you're not going to sign the big free agents.
You have to find players guys that get it. They're
dying for an opportunity and they are willing to work
for it, and they're a pleasure to have around. Now,
the pleasure to have around. That can be up for debate.
I mean, but it is best case, happy employee works
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harder for you.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's just the way it is. So you want good
people in there.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And it is really the really the lightning or buzz
topic this offseason is going to be how the deck
is stacked against some smaller markets.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And I know there's a lot that goes into that.
I was talking with Billy and Arman this morning about
that a little bit, but I mean, and it's worth
talking about because that even raises the accomplishment to bigger
heights of what the Brewers are doing and what have
they've done in the last eight years. I just I'm
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super proud of this organization. However, Comma, let's do this.
You win five division titles in eight years, three straight
seven playoff appearances in those eight years. How long do
you do that before you may do it a little
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different way. That really is the bottom line question. Is
it fun now? Has it turned this organization around from
a twenty six year playoff drought which is still amazing
to me. I still look back and why wasn't I
more upset with that?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well? Because I love the team and they can hardly do.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Were you threatening to go be a Rockies fan? I was,
You're gonna go and visit Course Field and yep, just
through the whole thing, Timmy, or.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Thinking about relocating to Phoenix, Oh yes, and who knows what.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Would have happened.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I think you were upset.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I was, And it's stunning.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
However, now you look at it and you look at
all these playoff appearances and it's Cloud nine.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
As as Brewer fans were like, wow, they're really you know,
center stage a lot. You know, you get national stuff
and people are are looking out and wow, those Brewers
they'll they'll fight you, they'll get you. You know, in
talking to some Brewer players that had been on other
teams over the years, they've told us that, they've told
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me that that. You know, you walk back into your
clubhouse when you're playing the Milwaukee Brewers and you figure out,
how the hell are they doing that to us? And
this is recent, you know, last you know, four or
five or six, seven years however, and here's where the
big butt comes in, that is it's still not a
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World Series and that is frustrating to me. Okay, so
it's eight years enough to say, hey, that the old
bite of the apple syndrome is are the bites not
working well so far and eight years haven't? Is it
fun and has it turned the organization around?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes? And yes?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But on the other hand, there is a bigger prize
here and not just fun and turn the organization around.
I think at some point you got to pass that
baton to winning a World Series or at least appearing
in the World Series to give yourself a chance. Now,
would it be nice to say, hey, Brewers were in
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the World Series two of the last three years, it's
time to take that next step. Oh yeah, that would
be the next level that you know incrementally that would
be the next level. But the ultimate level is to
win a World Series, and they just have not done that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So just keep an eye on that.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And I'm not freaking out and I'm not saying what
algorithm they're rolling with is not working, because to a
degree it is. But Hunter, my point is, at some point,
I don't know when that is. Could be now, could
be in four years, say they win the division again
three of the next four years, maybe win a playoff
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series and then get bounced before a World Series. Is
that good enough.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You know, it's interesting because you know they have obviously
they learn from every year, and they don't go the
exact same you know, they don't do the same exact
thing every single year. It's hard to have a better
year than what you did this year. And I know
you didn't make it to the World Series, but what
I'm saying is you had a ninety seven win team
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best in baseball and then you ran in to the
team that their manager on the podium afterwards says, let's
go ruin baseball. So, like, as much as I that
is so cocky.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It's not crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And I respect Dave Roberts, like he's seems like a
great guy and everything. I think he probably got caught
up in the moment there and he's trying to defend
his guys, right. It's Pat Murphy also saying the average
Joe's Like, it's it's kind of that obviously David and
Goliath scenario. But they're both trying to defend their team
and what they built and they take pride in that,
and I get that, But I don't know other than yes,
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and you could say the offense underperformed, right, So what
would have made that offense better. I guess you could
argue giving up a bunch of prospect for you Suarez,
but you can't guarantee he's gonna hit a home run
of the Lays and it's like home runner two gonna
beat the Dodgers. The way they were pitching and the
way they were, like, I don't know. So as much
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as I want to say, like yes, and I'm sure
they will take a look a full sale. Look, I
don't want them to change much because they were They
were about as good as you can be and ran
into the buzz saw that is the La Dodgers. So
you know, I it's just it's an interesting kind of
dilemma you have almost because of how good they were
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this year.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Super interesting most wins in baseball. That's something to be
proud of. That's what you can take away. That's one
of the things you can take away from the season.
The other the other thing to take away would be
the fact that this foundation, if you choose to keep
it sure is intact now that there's always going to
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be changes. Virtually every bull pen switches over to a degree. Yeah,
you got your three or four guys that are there,
and but you also need guys to step up. So
I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna say this
was a total debacle. I I you know, after the
dust is now settled, I'm not as moved by a
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real inft offense. And let's face it, it was give credit,
where credits, do the pitching. We're gonna find out what
those same guys do their next time out.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Keep an eye on that. Not that I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Watching a ton of World Series because it's just a
reminder to watch.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I I can't wait for Game seven tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
There'll be some football that I'll watch, But you know,
in terms of the World Series, I say it every
year that now I'm probably not gonna watch too much
and then I get caught up.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I do I do? You want to get a call in?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
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Speaker 4 (16:06):
Jim, you're on the air with Tim.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
What do you say, Jim.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Kim, Hey, good guy. You know you guys have done
a great job all season long covering the guys, and
I mean it's been a rough season at the end here,
but there was a lot that happened, and a lot
of fun between two four game losing streaks, you know,
to start this season would tour game losing streak and
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end it. Yeah, but a lot a lot happened in between,
and we had a lot of fun. My wife and
I watched a lot of baseball this year, and it
was it was a fun season. Looking forward to next year.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Just then and Jim, just let me just let me say,
you use fun a couple of different times, and your
wife and you watched a bunch of baseball. That's what
this season was all about. At this point. Now you're
going to look back and say, hey man, that was fun.
Regardless of how it ended, that was six months worth
of fun.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
There was a lot of different games where records were set,
you know, by individuals and by the teed by the team,
and it was just yeah, it was entertaining baseball all around.
There was a lot of games that you just you
were you're watching them and you never felt that they
were out of it were in past seasons you always
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you know, by the third inning, fourth inning, you were like, Okay,
there isn't anything left in them. So yeah, I just
want to thank you guys for a good season, enjoy
your off season, and let's look forward to spring training.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There there you go, Jim, thank you. And see there's
there's a.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I guess from our standpoint, just some objective sort of
response to what we're talking about here. Find those positives
to take away, because there are some and there they
might be easy to find. For me, they're really easy
to find. It's just so much cool that happened this year.
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But I think it's fair to say during this run,
division titles and now now a postseason series victory and
a bye and you know, the most wins in baseball.
I think it's fair and I'm not being negative and
I'm not trying to do any hot take or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You guys know me.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think it's fair to say, when is it time
for the next level? Because, after all, that's the biggest prize.
Biggest prize isn't to have a summer full of fun entertainment.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That helps.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's cool, it's a blast. We had so much fun,
but at the end of the day, it's it's a
good thing to get used to that. So now next level,
take the next step. We'll see if that happens next year.
Maybe it will.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, that's a you know, as I'm kind of thinking
about this and I'm thinking about the young core that
we talked about, that a lot of it can be
intact if they so choose, and I hope they so choose.
They got a really talented team. You think of, you know,
Durbin at third and Joey obviously Grant the defensive side,
but maybe you think about something there. But then you know,
obviously Terrang at second, Vaughn's probably your guy. First, he
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got Freelich in the outfield, Mitchell hopefully comes back, Yacht
Churio obviously Yelich out there as well. But you think
of those young guys and a lot of those guys
so right they're playing in their you know, first postseason
uh in twenty three, and then they get so close
in twenty four to winning a postseason series, get a
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little more experience than this year. They play their first
postseason road games, and they get their first postseason series win,
get to the NLCS, set the franchise record. This is
step by step here that the expectation number one, the expectation,
you know, is going to be high next year, as
it should be. Whether the national pundits everybody gives them
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the credit they're due. We shall see, but on the
at least on the inside, their expectation is going to
be high. And maybe it is kind of that step
ladder thing where they're building towards this with the experience,
because I have I really, I really think that last
year's lost in Game three of the Wildcard series helped
them in Game five against the Cubs this year.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And so if that's the case, you maybe, you know,
begetting to that series against the Dodgers and kind of
looking a bit exhausted and a little out of gas,
maybe that's maybe that helps next year then and say, Okay,
we may win in the NLDS, but we got the
NLCS on tap and we got to be ready to
rock and roll. So I think this is maybe learning
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step by step for this team and then hopefully that
leads to that ultimate goal that we all want.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And it really.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You never had to bottom out to do this incrementally.
You never had to bottom out because that was a
consensus fifteen years ago, even ten years ago, well you
better tear it all down.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, David Stearns proved you don't have to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
In a market this size, and he didn't. You supplement
with key acquisitions in your price range, and you integrate
them with your younger guys. You never had to bottom out.
Could you imagine? That's one thing we are not used
to right now? The bar is higher to where we
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now expect this every year. And it's okay. Those expectations
were earned by those guys, and it comes along with
a higher bar. It just does. I want to read
this too. This I've had in my notes here for
a while. I really haven't gotten a chance to read this.
This is from Levi Weaver months ago of the Athletic.
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Is this the real life or is this just fantasy?
Quote in a landsline U that song from Queen by
the Way, That's the way he started it out. He
goes on, there's a philosophical belief that all pain and
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suffering comes from the inability to let go or release,
whether that'd be hopes and dreams, people, possessions, desires that
need to cling to whatever you believe will bring you
fulfillment is where the problem begins. And true enlightenment comes
from understanding the temporal nature of all things and your
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relationship to all things, which is also temporal. If you
could explain with the Brewers in any simpler terms, I
invite you to fill in for me next time. I'm
responsible for the Brewer's blurb. In these rankings, they were
doing a power ranking that was simple. What I exactly?
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I get the point I know hold on is this
is something. There's a philosophical belief that all pain and
suffering comes from the inability to let go or release,
whether that be hopes and dreams, people, possessions, desires.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
The need to cling to whatever you believe will bring
you fulfillment is where the problem begins, and true enlightenment
comes from understanding the temporal nature of all things and
your relationship to all things, which is also temporal.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Check.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Come on, all right, we're gonna have a break coming
up here. We're gonna talk a little money. First of all,
the qualifying offer in Major League Baseball just went up
four point six percent twenty two point oh two million
dollars a qualifying offer. So we're talking big money here.
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It just continues to go up. When does it stop? Um,
here's where it stops. Glass now thirty two and a
half million a year. Snell twenty eight point four million
a year, Otani twenty eight point two million a year,
Mookie Betts twenty six million dollars a year, Freddie Freeman
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twenty two million a year, Yamamoto eighteen point three million,
Conforto seventeen million, Clayton Kershaw sixteen million, Max Munsey fourteen million,
fourteen and a half, Tiascar Hernandez thirteen point three million.
Those are all one year salaries for a baseball team
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in MLB. The this year, I'll read I'll read those again.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
On the other.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Side, these are one year salaries. It gets even more
disgusting when you look at the multi year deals that
most of these players are on. Okay, we'll take a
break if you want to jump in here nikolay law
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low Brewers wrap up today for your Monday here on
the game and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Let's get four more wins and really ruin baseball.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, welcome back, wrapping up a Brewers twenty twenty five. Joe,
I want to say at championship season, but no season
to this point. There's Hunter Bombguard Tim Allen here on
the Game Network throughout the state of Wisconsin and the
iHeartRadio app anywhere you may be. We appreciate you being
tuned in here, and I just want to go over
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some of these numbers again since we're going to see
the Dodgers here in a few days playing the World Series.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And play that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You got that sound bite again from Dave Roberts. Now,
there's going to be a at the what it would
it be December twenty sixth of twenty six, so next year,
December twenty six the the agreement between the players and
the league that that contract runs out, and from what
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the ground swell is, there will be a big time
fight and it might be the biggest fight they've ever
had in terms of, you know, optimizing what you can
do for fair play. And that's the way I'll put it.
That was a nice political way to put it. Yeah,
that was really nice optimizing the agreement.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
For fair play.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Wow ooh yeah, where did that come from? I'm smart,
I don't know, but I mean that's what it comes
down to. And this is Dave Roberts kind of snubbing
his nose at that.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
They said the Dodgers are ruining baseball. Let's get four
more wins and really ruin baseball.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Now, I agree with you Hunter that he probably is
caught up in the moment a little bit, but really
that I mean, if you're going to reap the benefits
of being in a favorable position amongst your peer teams,
then that's not the way to act right there.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, I'm guessing that doesn't come off well to a
lot of other managers, maybe even in the Brewers' spot,
not that you know, I think a lot of them
have a lot of respect for Dave Roberts. So not
that that necessarily is going to go down, but it's
like a ooh, probably shouldn't have said that. I do
wonder if he'll get asked that at all, and the
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you know, as we lead up to the World Series
here and some of the press conferences because of course
they meet, you know, they'll meet the media the day
before and everything like that, maybe he is asked about that,
and maybe he says, you know, it probably came out
the wrong way, but then he's gonna probably defend his
guys in some respect. And I want, I do want
him to be asked about that, because I do want
to see what his explanation for that is.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I well, I think he could have delivered that message
and maybe not in that moment. You should have just said,
hey man, we're going to the World Series. This is
so cool, this is awesome, I'm so proud of my team,
et cetera. Just just play it down in the middle
of the fairway here he could have played it to
where and this is probably what we'll get with an explanation.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Is that what am I supposed to do? Lose?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, I'm not These guys are playing their tails
off here, and I'm not going to try and lose
just to just to make everyone feel better about the
you know, sure conditions financially in Major League Baseball. So again,
let me read you some numbers easy to ruin baseball
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when you have these yearly contracts. This is one year,
Glass now thirty two point five million, Blake Snell twenty
eight point four million this year, Otani twenty eight million,
two hundred thousand a year, Mookie Betts gets twenty six million.
Freddie Freeman he gets twenty two million dollars this year.
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Yamamoto eighteen point three million, Conforto seventeen million.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Look at Conforto.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And this is where that's the example there that not
only do they have this payroll, but they can afford
to miss on a seventeen million dollar payroll with regards
to Conforto, Yeah, they can miss on that. The Brewers.
That's an equivalent of Rhys Hoskins. And if that's a
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that's huge for an organization that has a payroll of
one hundred and twenty one million rights. Yeah, it's a
fifth of your salary and one guy.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It is interesting how they also though the Brewers did overcome,
I mean, half the season for Hoskins was not He
didn't play basically right, So that's an interesting one. However,
he was a significant part of the first April June
three and a half months.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Of the season. You bet, yeah, he was. He was
a big part of that.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Clayton Curshaw I got sixteen million this year, Max Munsey
got fourteen million, fourteen and a half million, Tiascar Hernandez
thirteen point three million. Other Dodgers Tanner Scott twelve point
three million, Blake trying An eight and a half million,
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Tommy Edmund got eight point four million. Now compared to
the Brewers, let's see Christian Yeli's twenty four point one million,
Reees Hoskins eighteen million.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Okay, so far, so good.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Hanging with the big boys drops all the way down
to Freddy Peralta eight point one million, Danny Jansen eight million,
William Contreras six million, Andrew Vaughan five point nine million,
Cherio four point three million, Ashby three point five million,
Trevor McGill one point nine, Jake Bowers one point four.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
The fact you get there, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The fact that I got so quickly to one point
nine and one point one as the highest paid on
your team. I stopped at Tommy Edmond at eight point four.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Right, And you talked about Jansen and Vaughn, two guys
who some of the salary was paid by their previous.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Team, by the other guys.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yes, it's just ludicrous to even think that this is fair. Now,
could you move your team to a bigger market? You
can petition the league teams have moved. Is that healthy
for the game. If that's what you have to do,
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then that's gonna water down LA. It's gonna water down
New York, It's gonna water down San Francisco, Dallas, all
the big markets. That's not good for the game. What's
good for the game is you know, it's not only
the payroll that Marcott Andasio doles out here, but it's
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also the infrastructure of the Dominican Complex, the pitching lab,
and the complex in Arizona and Maryvale. How about expanding
your international scouting, hiring different scouts, hiring, you know, paying
scouts a little bit more money. They had to do
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it this way because there's just no way. And again,
I know what folks are thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Mark Attanasio needs to spend more money. I agree with
that to an extent. I do I think he should
spend a little more money. I do, now do I
do I think he should run his business in a
deficit situation where every year you're just you're not making
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any money year to year. I don't think that's fair
to that business man. I really don't what's fair? And
that's all I ask man. That's that's it. You guys
know love this Brewers team always have. Is it okay
to be in love with a baseball team.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I think the.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Answer is yes, But I just don't believe it's fair.
And how do you argue against fair? You're gonna argue
against fair, right, it's unfair that they can do that
and you can do this. But it's the same company.
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I mean, this is all underneath the MLB a umbrella.
It really is a tricky, tricky thing, guys, it is.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It makes what the Brewers are doing that much more
impressive when you readown those numbers and their ability to
get the best record in baseball. You can say what
you want about the postseason, but look, that's a much
smaller sample size than one hundred and sixty two games.
How many they played five and four, right, they played
nine playoff games compared to one hundred and sixty two,
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and the Brewers were the best over one hundred and
sixty two. With those numbers comparatively, that is impressive.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
All told, one hundred and seventy one in one hundred
and seventy one games. Probably back to back Executive and
Manager of the Year awards. You've got Gold Glove recipients.
I would suspect at least one. They've just done a
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marvelous job with what they've had to work with.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And that's the key. Get the most out.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Of what you have. Really, truly is the mark of
a good leader. He's getting the most production out of
what you have. But once you get the max production
out of what you do have, and you're still scraping
with these other guys that are, you know, just three
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times the payroll. Oh my goodness, come on, that's not fair.
I'm sorry, Come on now, little base it now all right,
Let's get a couple of calls in here. Let's go
to Dan. Dan, you're on the game. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Tim?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
I've been listening to you forever and I just got
to tell you, man, as a fellow musician, man, especially
when you talk about the Beatles, I am like all
in and I want to just say one thing. I
had to work. I'm a second shifter. I'm off Mondays,
which is nice, so that's why I can call. But man,
the last game, I sat in my car because I
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had to work. I missed it and I watched Don't
Let Me Down some the Beatles a roof top performance
and I was doing come on Brewers like. And what
was crazy was after they you know, I found up
the grape Vine network and stuff because we can't really
have phones and stuff. But I found out that they lost,
and man, I'm like, how come, I'm not upset. I
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was not upset. I was so part of our team.
And everyone's walking around like hey, man, like optimistically, hey, hey,
come on, you know you run into a juggernaut like that,
what are you gonna do? And we were just all happy.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Some people started kind of recalling stories of you know,
this game, that game this year and we beat the Cubs,
and you know what, I can't believe. I'm not like
super upset, but I'm really proud of my Milwaukee Brewers
and they've been my team since. Man I met Robin
Yon and Paul mallt a at a werehole shoes. They
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were saying Frisbees. But I was a little kid, and
all of a sudden, Paul Mallers like, you know what,
why why do we have wearhole shoes? Frisbees? And he
grabs a botch of baseballs right and he's start saying
these balls, He's tossing them all to all his kids.
It was something else like just so, man, I am
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not upset. I how come I'm not?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I don't know, you know what I dan. I gotta say.
I have to say that.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I wasn't as upset as I thought I would be
because I fell into that beat the Cubs thing. Make
sure you don't from the Cubs, and I think that's
a natural thing.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
But at some point, Dan, though, the bar has got
to be higher.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Oh no, no, no, no doubt. Look but I think they
now our young team got to kick behind that curtain.
Like now, it's like it's it's kind of baby steps.
I mean, you have to go through that whole thing.
And I'm not seeing the moment was too much going.
But when your offense just struggles like that at the
worst time, I think that's just baseball. And I know
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that sounds so cliche, but that's just kind of how
the game rolls. And a team like the Dodgers with
the payroll, I don't think they really care about the
regular season. They know they're going to get in the
playoffs and then they see they find that extra gear
and I think our brewers are going to be able
to do that at some point where they just that's like,
all right, we're now we're playing for the trophy.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
We're not awesome.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
You know, we're not going to be satisfied.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, all right, book them, Dana, Thank you, Dan, I
appreciate it. That is I love those stories, the whole
Robinette and Paul Moller or stuff. And I ran into
Jim Gantner at the grocery store and oh man, just
even the Prince Fielder and Ricky Weeks.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I remember going to an autograph signing or the on.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Deck event or wow, let's get to Mike, Mike, you're
next year on the game?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Hello Mike?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
How are you tem more important? How you are?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
I'm all right, man, you know same all, you know,
just disappointed again. But they know, if they're the Brewers,
I'm always going to be a fan. So one of
the one of the smartest things I ever heard, years
and years ago. You probably probably know who Papa Joshavalier was.
I used to listen to his show and he said
something that was really When he said it, I just
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made me kind of go wow. He said, the reason
why the NFL is so successful is because they realized
that their product is competition. And he said that, and
right away I was like, what the hell is he
talking about? But then I got thinking about it and
this whole thing with you know, you know, I'm tired
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of people going, well, you know, you can't use the
salaries as an excuse as well. When five the top
five players salaries with the firm for the Dodgers is
the almost the exact same amount of money that the
entire Brewer franchise is worth, there's something wrong. I mean,
you know what I mean, it's like one point seven
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billion or something like that. Ridiculous. And and I don't know.
I mean, I get that they you know, they ran
into a pitching buzzsaw on all that, but my god,
I mean, it's just so it's so irritating. And then
to hear that ass Robert say what he said, you
know about well, let's really ruin baseball.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Well, he might get his wish.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
And for a guy who basically was given so much
because of this game, for him to say that, I
think it's just crap. I'm so glad we got a
guy like Murph. I mean, he's just the best. I
love his press conferences and how he runs stuff and
just the type of guy that he is. I'm so
glad we got a guy like him.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
So me too.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
That's all I got.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Love your show. I love listening to you, and uh
I'll be I'll be listening when spring training starts.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Man, yep, that's yeah, that's the twenty six championship season.
I mean, I can't wait. Yeah, thank you, thank you, Mike,
I appreciate that. Yeah, And and again to be humble,
I think it's probably what what I would do if
I were the Dodgers. I try and make that fly
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under the radar as as much as I could. And
Mike's right to think that that doesn't have an impact.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
On winning is ludicrous. It does. I mean if it.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
If it doesn't, then pay them all the same, pay
them all the same. Then if that does not equate
to winning, if money doesn't equate to winning, then they
also make the same amount of money.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Oh, I don't think they'd like that as a player,
would they.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Right, we'll take a break here and things up here
talking some Brewers baseball. We ain't done yet talking Brewers baseball.
It's still the twenty five season. I want to get
that word in there. But there's Hunter bombguard Tim Allen
here on the game in the iHeartRadio app. Despite the
season ending the way it did, we're still gonna smile
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about all the fun we had over the summer, right
as Brewer fans, of course, of course we are. And
there's always more. You always should want more. Even had
they won the World Series, what would we be talking about?
Let's win another one, so let's get Let's get one first,
that'd be nice, all right, More Brewers conversation tomorrow morning
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is I'll be filling in for Arman here on the game,
so Billy Schmid and myself Andrew Ludwig talk. I'm sure
we'll talk some Brewers baseball, that's for sure tomorrow morning,
among other things. And the NFL having a couple of
games tonight, so enjoy that. As now I can focus
a little bit more on my fantasy football teams, all
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six of them. So I've been not doing proper mainten
in some of my fantasy teams.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Now I can get back to that.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
But well worth it, as the Brewers had had a
hell of a year which just didn't finish it. So
tomorrow morning, we'll see you here on the game, and
we appreciate you guys tuned in, thanks for all the
support for Hunter Bombguard. My name is Tim Allen, and
you guys, just what the Brewers have done in this
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eight year run has been has been pretty cool. It
really has. But again I will say that with d caveat,
let's take it to the World Series one of these years.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I think we can all agree there. All right, you guys,
have a great night.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
We'll see you tomorrow morning, and remember, as always, smile Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Bob Yucker is smiling back
Well it's five o'clock.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
You've made it through your Monday and that's a good thing.
Couple of Monday night football games on the docket for tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
But welcome in everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Drew and KB move aside, and we're gonna Brewers wrap
up this thing.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Tim Allen Hunter bombgart here on the Game Network in
the iHeartRadio app and Dust is still settling for Brewers fans. Hunter,
It's really comes down to this at this point, what
do you take away from this season? And it comes
down to, you know, the fun factor. We all know
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this was a fine fun summer.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It just really was.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
There were the twists and turns and the riggers of
a long baseball season and really a long calendar, you know,
six and a half months, and if you tack on
spring training, the journey gets even longer than that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It was.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was a grind here for everybody, fans, players, the media,
and but what do you have to find positive things
to take away? You can't just you know, and again
I'm disappointed in the fact that, you know, another year
goes by and not a World Series appearance. But at
some point you're gonna have to let that go by
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the wayside a little bit here, And you know, Craig
Counsel set it years ago. Our exit did not take
away the fun we had on the journey, and I
always remembered that from Craig Counsel. There were a few
things that he that he has said and done that
I do appreciate still as much as we dislike his
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decisions at times, but those comments I think carry me
a little bit here Hunter in terms of, hey, this
was kind of cool and all the storylines that go
into the somewhat special season.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean it was totally.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Special, but it was somewhat special all those storylines, and
we have to find things in a positive nature to
take away from this season.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
We just do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
There's no doubt there are so many positives from this season.
It's as much as yes, the World Series is the
ultimate goal. You got within the final four. It hurts
to be one step away from getting back to that
again for the first time since nineteen eighty two. I
know that is, you know, kind of a lasting feeling,
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and we all were dreaming as the season goes on,
but we all, I feel like Brewis fans as much
as we were looking forward to that. I think we
also enjoyed the moment a lot this year and enjoyed
those special moments and enjoyed the fourteen game winning streak,
and there's just so many miz and the whole deal
and turning around the season from late May. I mean,
you're April and May we're talking not good. I mean
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there were times you're talking selling, you're talking you know future,
you're talking. Is this just a you know, was last
year supposed to be kind of the gap year, so
to speak, where you kind of rebuilt and see what
you got in Pat Murphy And maybe it's this year
instead of last year?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Was last year in adverorition? I mean, all those things were.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Being talked about in April and May, and then they
switched it into the best regular season of all time
for the Milwaukee Brewers, and that as much as you
don't want to, you know, lose before your ultimate goal
in the postseason, that in and of itself, that summer
is going to be one you look back on. And
I've already seen so many text calls, whatever it happens
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to be, people on social media saying I've i haven't
had that much fun watching Brewers baseball in a very
long time. And that is what you can take from
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You're right, Hunter, that's spot on. And you know, I
was looking through my notes of the season, and as
you guys know, I take notes on every game, my notes,
not media notes, not the game notes, just my own
game notes. You know, I put the date, I put
the game number, what series it is, what road trip
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or home stand it is, put pertinent details in there.
But then I, you know, I just give my notes
on big sixth inning and things like that Murphy decision,
question mark question, you know, those types of things. And
I noticed a pattern from about late June all the
way into August, and I kept putting pinch yourself because
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it was going so quickly. It just got going. It's
it's a baseball season is long, and I understand that,
but it also can fly by before you know it.
If you don't pay attention to it and have a
little fun while you're doing it, it'll it'll it'll cheat
you out of some fun. That calendar will be be
your enemy. And so it's it's much like an NFL season.
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What do we talk about with the NFL? You get
training camp, the OTA is a training camp, and you
get ready and roster sizes and things like that, and
of your fantasy football players are all getting ready to go.
And now we get Sundays with football and you know,
the preseason games, and then before you know it, where
are we at now?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And they have a week eight week number eight.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
There's our eighteen weeks ye right way there.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yes, and in a way that can happen with a
baseball season. So and I know that you and I
and pipe Bomb on the postgame show, we kept reminding
people of that, and most of that wasn't reminding Brewer fans,
was reminding ourselves.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I mean, I remember standing an American family field after
those two games of the NLDS, the first two where
you blew out the Chicago Cubs in the playoffs in
Milwaukee and saying, it's just no matter what happens in
the rest of the series. And it got ten, you
is obviously the Cubs tied it and you come back
home for game and that was another one of those moments.
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But those first two games, again, when you're sitting in
January and you're watching the snowfly, you're dreaming of what
a Brewer's baseball season can consist of beating the Cubs
in the playoffs is one of the top things you
can picture.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
And that happened this year.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, outside of appearing in the World Series.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
St me take that off the table.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
One of the biggest moments, or probably the biggest moment
you could find is eliminating the Cubs ending their season
right exactly, and especially how you did it. I mean,
that's even better. There's the evil side of me. You
didn't just sweep them out and then bye bye and
then they're gone and they knew it. You actually hammered
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them for a couple of games, then gave them hope
and then took it away.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You just didn't take it away.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You started taking it away then let them back in
and that's that would It had to be crushing for
that organization. So that was an accomplishment, you know, advent
of Now we're getting into detail. You know Andrew Vaughan
and what he did, the emergence of Jacob Mazerowski and
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all the injuries to bookend the season. I mean, all
of those things, the winning streaks, all of those Chad
Patricks and you know abnue Reeve stepping up. Look a
look at Aaron Ashby had a fantastic season, and I
know people get on him for his postseason play, but
he had a remarkable season and that that should.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Give us some hope too.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So there were so many things that happened this year
that you need to find a way, or at least
I do. I'm just speaking for myself now, and that
is find a way to pull those positives out of
this thing. And there are a lot to choose from.
There really are.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, I'm going to read you quote from Pat Murphy
about the type of situation that the Brewers are in now.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He said it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Earlier this season about mid season on how the organization
has to do things. Quote who the guy is, what
makes him tick? That's going to be really important for
teams like us. You know, you have the deck stacked
against you a little bit. In Major League Baseball. If
you don't have the payroll and you don't have the
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big market, you're not going to sign the big free agents.
You have to find players guys that get it. They're
dying for an opportunity and they are willing to work
for it, and they're a pleasure to have around. Now,
the pleasure to have around. That can be up for debate.
I mean, but it is best case, happy employee works
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harder for you.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's just the way it is. So you want good
people in there.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And it is really the really the lightning or buzz
topic this offseason is going to be how the deck
is stacked against some smaller markets.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And I know there's a lot that goes into that.
I was talking with Billy and Arman this morning about
that a little bit, but I mean, and it's worth
talking about because that even raises the accomplishment to bigger
heights of what the Brewers are doing and what have
they've done in the last eight years. I just I'm
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super proud of this organization. However, Comma, let's do this.
You win five division titles in eight years, three straight
seven playoff appearances in those eight years. How long do
you do that before you may do it a little
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different way. That really is the bottom line question. Is
it fun now? Has it turned this organization around from
a twenty six year playoff drought which is still amazing
to me. I still look back and why wasn't I
more upset with that?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Well? Because I love the team and they can hardly do.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Were you threatening to go be a Rockies fan? I was,
You're gonna go and visit Course Field and yep, just
through the whole thing, Timmy, or.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Thinking about relocating to Phoenix, Oh yes, and who knows what.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Would have happened.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I think you were upset.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I was, And it's stunning.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
However, now you look at it and you look at
all these playoff appearances and it's Cloud nine.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
As as Brewer fans were like, wow, they're really you know,
center stage a lot. You know, you get national stuff
and people are are looking out and wow, those Brewers
they'll they'll fight you, they'll get you. You know, in
talking to some Brewer players that had been on other
teams over the years, they've told us that, they've told
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me that that. You know, you walk back into your
clubhouse when you're playing the Milwaukee Brewers and you figure out,
how the hell are they doing that to us? And
this is recent, you know, last you know, four or
five or six, seven years however, and here's where the
big butt comes in, that is it's still not a
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World Series and that is frustrating to me. Okay, so
it's eight years enough to say, hey, that the old
bite of the apple syndrome is are the bites not
working well so far and eight years haven't? Is it
fun and has it turned the organization around?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes? And yes?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But on the other hand, there is a bigger prize
here and not just fun and turn the organization around.
I think at some point you got to pass that
baton to winning a World Series or at least appearing
in the World Series to give yourself a chance. Now,
would it be nice to say, hey, Brewers were in
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the World Series two of the last three years, it's
time to take that next step. Oh yeah, that would
be the next level that you know incrementally that would
be the next level. But the ultimate level is to
win a World Series, and they just have not done that.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So just keep an eye on that.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And I'm not freaking out and I'm not saying what
algorithm they're rolling with is not working, because to a
degree it is. But Hunter, my point is, at some point,
I don't know when that is. Could be now, could
be in four years, say they win the division again
three of the next four years, maybe win a playoff
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series and then get bounced before a World Series. Is
that good enough.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
You know, it's interesting because you know they have obviously
they learn from every year, and they don't go the
exact same you know, they don't do the same exact
thing every single year. It's hard to have a better
year than what you did this year. And I know
you didn't make it to the World Series, but what
I'm saying is you had a ninety seven win team
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best in baseball and then you ran in to the
team that their manager on the podium afterwards says, let's
go ruin baseball. So, like, as much as I that
is so cocky.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It's not crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And I respect Dave Roberts, like he's seems like a
great guy and everything. I think he probably got caught
up in the moment there and he's trying to defend
his guys, right. It's Pat Murphy also saying the average
Joe's Like, it's it's kind of that obviously David and
Goliath scenario. But they're both trying to defend their team
and what they built and they take pride in that,
and I get that, But I don't know other than yes,
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and you could say the offense underperformed, right, So what
would have made that offense better. I guess you could
argue giving up a bunch of prospect for you Suarez,
but you can't guarantee he's gonna hit a home run
of the Lays and it's like home runner two gonna
beat the Dodgers. The way they were pitching and the
way they were, like, I don't know. So as much
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as I want to say, like yes, and I'm sure
they will take a look a full sale. Look, I
don't want them to change much because they were They
were about as good as you can be and ran
into the buzz saw that is the La Dodgers. So
you know, I it's just it's an interesting kind of
dilemma you have almost because of how good they were
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this year.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Super interesting most wins in baseball. That's something to be
proud of. That's what you can take away. That's one
of the things you can take away from the season.
The other the other thing to take away would be
the fact that this foundation, if you choose to keep
it sure is intact now that there's always going to
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be changes. Virtually every bull pen switches over to a degree. Yeah,
you got your three or four guys that are there,
and but you also need guys to step up. So
I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna say this
was a total debacle. I I you know, after the
dust is now settled, I'm not as moved by a
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real inft offense. And let's face it, it was give credit,
where credits, do the pitching. We're gonna find out what
those same guys do their next time out.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Keep an eye on that. Not that I'm going to be.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Watching a ton of World Series because it's just a
reminder to watch.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I I can't wait for Game seven tonight.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
There'll be some football that I'll watch, But you know,
in terms of the World Series, I say it every
year that now I'm probably not gonna watch too much
and then I get caught up.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I do I do? You want to get a call in?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
It's here too, Nickoway Law dot Com talking text line
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Speaker 4 (16:06):
Jim, you're on the air with Tim.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
What do you say, Jim.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Kim, Hey, good guy. You know you guys have done
a great job all season long covering the guys, and
I mean it's been a rough season at the end here,
but there was a lot that happened, and a lot
of fun between two four game losing streaks, you know,
to start this season would tour game losing streak and
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end it. Yeah, but a lot a lot happened in between,
and we had a lot of fun. My wife and
I watched a lot of baseball this year, and it
was it was a fun season. Looking forward to next year.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Just then and Jim, just let me just let me say,
you use fun a couple of different times, and your
wife and you watched a bunch of baseball. That's what
this season was all about. At this point. Now you're
going to look back and say, hey man, that was fun.
Regardless of how it ended, that was six months worth
of fun.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
There was a lot of different games where records were set,
you know, by individuals and by the teed by the team,
and it was just yeah, it was entertaining baseball all around.
There was a lot of games that you just you
were you're watching them and you never felt that they
were out of it were in past seasons you always
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you know, by the third inning, fourth inning, you were like, Okay,
there isn't anything left in them. So yeah, I just
want to thank you guys for a good season, enjoy
your off season, and let's look forward to spring training.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
There there you go, Jim, thank you. And see there's
there's a.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I guess from our standpoint, just some objective sort of
response to what we're talking about here. Find those positives
to take away, because there are some and there they
might be easy to find. For me, they're really easy
to find. It's just so much cool that happened this year.
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But I think it's fair to say during this run,
division titles and now now a postseason series victory and
a bye and you know, the most wins in baseball.
I think it's fair and I'm not being negative and
I'm not trying to do any hot take or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You guys know me.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think it's fair to say, when is it time
for the next level? Because, after all, that's the biggest prize.
Biggest prize isn't to have a summer full of fun entertainment.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That helps.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's cool, it's a blast. We had so much fun,
but at the end of the day, it's it's a
good thing to get used to that. So now next level,
take the next step. We'll see if that happens next year.
Maybe it will.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, that's a you know, as I'm kind of thinking
about this and I'm thinking about the young core that
we talked about, that a lot of it can be
intact if they so choose, and I hope they so choose.
They got a really talented team. You think of, you know,
Durbin at third and Joey obviously Grant the defensive side,
but maybe you think about something there. But then you know,
obviously Terrang at second, Vaughn's probably your guy. First, he
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got Freelich in the outfield, Mitchell hopefully comes back, Yacht
Churio obviously Yelich out there as well. But you think
of those young guys and a lot of those guys
so right they're playing in their you know, first postseason
uh in twenty three, and then they get so close
in twenty four to winning a postseason series, get a
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little more experience than this year. They play their first
postseason road games, and they get their first postseason series win,
get to the NLCS, set the franchise record. This is
step by step here that the expectation number one, the expectation,
you know, is going to be high next year, as
it should be. Whether the national pundits everybody gives them
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the credit they're due. We shall see, but on the
at least on the inside, their expectation is going to
be high. And maybe it is kind of that step
ladder thing where they're building towards this with the experience,
because I have I really, I really think that last
year's lost in Game three of the Wildcard series helped
them in Game five against the Cubs this year.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I truly believe that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And so if that's the case, you maybe, you know,
begetting to that series against the Dodgers and kind of
looking a bit exhausted and a little out of gas,
maybe that's maybe that helps next year then and say, Okay,
we may win in the NLDS, but we got the
NLCS on tap and we got to be ready to
rock and roll. So I think this is maybe learning
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step by step for this team and then hopefully that
leads to that ultimate goal that we all want.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And it really.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You never had to bottom out to do this incrementally.
You never had to bottom out because that was a
consensus fifteen years ago, even ten years ago, well you
better tear it all down.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, David Stearns proved you don't have to do that.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
In a market this size, and he didn't. You supplement
with key acquisitions in your price range, and you integrate
them with your younger guys. You never had to bottom out.
Could you imagine? That's one thing we are not used
to right now? The bar is higher to where we
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now expect this every year. And it's okay. Those expectations
were earned by those guys, and it comes along with
a higher bar. It just does. I want to read
this too. This I've had in my notes here for
a while. I really haven't gotten a chance to read this.
This is from Levi Weaver months ago of the Athletic.
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Is this the real life or is this just fantasy?
Quote in a landsline U that song from Queen by
the Way, That's the way he started it out. He
goes on, there's a philosophical belief that all pain and
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suffering comes from the inability to let go or release,
whether that'd be hopes and dreams, people, possessions, desires that
need to cling to whatever you believe will bring you
fulfillment is where the problem begins. And true enlightenment comes
from understanding the temporal nature of all things and your
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relationship to all things, which is also temporal. If you
could explain with the Brewers in any simpler terms, I
invite you to fill in for me next time. I'm
responsible for the Brewer's blurb. In these rankings, they were
doing a power ranking that was simple. What I exactly?
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I get the point I know hold on is this
is something. There's a philosophical belief that all pain and
suffering comes from the inability to let go or release,
whether that be hopes and dreams, people, possessions, desires.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
The need to cling to whatever you believe will bring
you fulfillment is where the problem begins, and true enlightenment
comes from understanding the temporal nature of all things and
your relationship to all things, which is also temporal.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Check.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Come on, all right, we're gonna have a break coming
up here. We're gonna talk a little money. First of all,
the qualifying offer in Major League Baseball just went up
four point six percent twenty two point oh two million
dollars a qualifying offer. So we're talking big money here.
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It just continues to go up. When does it stop? Um,
here's where it stops. Glass now thirty two and a
half million a year. Snell twenty eight point four million
a year, Otani twenty eight point two million a year,
Mookie Betts twenty six million dollars a year, Freddie Freeman
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twenty two million a year, Yamamoto eighteen point three million,
Conforto seventeen million, Clayton Kershaw sixteen million, Max Munsey fourteen million,
fourteen and a half, Tiascar Hernandez thirteen point three million.
Those are all one year salaries for a baseball team
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in MLB. The this year, I'll read I'll read those again.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
On the other.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Side, these are one year salaries. It gets even more
disgusting when you look at the multi year deals that
most of these players are on. Okay, we'll take a
break if you want to jump in here nikolay law
dot com talking text line at eight seven seven seven
nine seven three. There's Hunter Bombguard, Tim Allen do a
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low Brewers wrap up today for your Monday here on
the game and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (25:31):
Let's get four more wins and really ruin baseball.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, welcome back, wrapping up a Brewers twenty twenty five. Joe,
I want to say at championship season, but no season
to this point. There's Hunter Bombguard Tim Allen here on
the Game Network throughout the state of Wisconsin and the
iHeartRadio app anywhere you may be. We appreciate you being
tuned in here, and I just want to go over
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some of these numbers again since we're going to see
the Dodgers here in a few days playing the World Series.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And play that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You got that sound bite again from Dave Roberts. Now,
there's going to be a at the what it would
it be December twenty sixth of twenty six, so next year,
December twenty six the the agreement between the players and
the league that that contract runs out, and from what
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the ground swell is, there will be a big time
fight and it might be the biggest fight they've ever
had in terms of, you know, optimizing what you can
do for fair play. And that's the way I'll put it.
That was a nice political way to put it. Yeah,
that was really nice optimizing the agreement.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
For fair play.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Wow ooh yeah, where did that come from? I'm smart,
I don't know, but I mean that's what it comes
down to. And this is Dave Roberts kind of snubbing
his nose at that.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
They said the Dodgers are ruining baseball. Let's get four
more wins and really ruin baseball.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Now, I agree with you Hunter that he probably is
caught up in the moment a little bit, but really
that I mean, if you're going to reap the benefits
of being in a favorable position amongst your peer teams,
then that's not the way to act right there.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, I'm guessing that doesn't come off well to a
lot of other managers, maybe even in the Brewers' spot,
not that you know, I think a lot of them
have a lot of respect for Dave Roberts. So not
that that necessarily is going to go down, but it's
like a ooh, probably shouldn't have said that. I do
wonder if he'll get asked that at all, and the
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you know, as we lead up to the World Series
here and some of the press conferences because of course
they meet, you know, they'll meet the media the day
before and everything like that, maybe he is asked about that,
and maybe he says, you know, it probably came out
the wrong way, but then he's gonna probably defend his
guys in some respect. And I want, I do want
him to be asked about that, because I do want
to see what his explanation for that is.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I well, I think he could have delivered that message
and maybe not in that moment. You should have just said,
hey man, we're going to the World Series. This is
so cool, this is awesome, I'm so proud of my team,
et cetera. Just just play it down in the middle
of the fairway here he could have played it to
where and this is probably what we'll get with an explanation.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Is that what am I supposed to do? Lose?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, I'm not These guys are playing their tails
off here, and I'm not going to try and lose
just to just to make everyone feel better about the
you know, sure conditions financially in Major League Baseball. So again,
let me read you some numbers easy to ruin baseball
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when you have these yearly contracts. This is one year,
Glass now thirty two point five million, Blake Snell twenty
eight point four million this year, Otani twenty eight million,
two hundred thousand a year, Mookie Betts gets twenty six million.
Freddie Freeman he gets twenty two million dollars this year.
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Yamamoto eighteen point three million, Conforto seventeen million.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Look at Conforto.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And this is where that's the example there that not
only do they have this payroll, but they can afford
to miss on a seventeen million dollar payroll with regards
to Conforto, Yeah, they can miss on that. The Brewers.
That's an equivalent of Rhys Hoskins. And if that's a
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that's huge for an organization that has a payroll of
one hundred and twenty one million rights. Yeah, it's a
fifth of your salary and one guy.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It is interesting how they also though the Brewers did overcome,
I mean, half the season for Hoskins was not He
didn't play basically right, So that's an interesting one. However,
he was a significant part of the first April June
three and a half months.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Of the season. You bet, yeah, he was. He was
a big part of that.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Clayton Curshaw I got sixteen million this year, Max Munsey
got fourteen million, fourteen and a half million, Tiascar Hernandez
thirteen point three million. Other Dodgers Tanner Scott twelve point
three million, Blake trying An eight and a half million,
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Tommy Edmund got eight point four million. Now compared to
the Brewers, let's see Christian Yeli's twenty four point one million,
Reees Hoskins eighteen million.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Okay, so far, so good.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Hanging with the big boys drops all the way down
to Freddy Peralta eight point one million, Danny Jansen eight million,
William Contreras six million, Andrew Vaughan five point nine million,
Cherio four point three million, Ashby three point five million,
Trevor McGill one point nine, Jake Bowers one point four.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
The fact you get there, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The fact that I got so quickly to one point
nine and one point one as the highest paid on
your team. I stopped at Tommy Edmond at eight point four.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Right, And you talked about Jansen and Vaughn, two guys
who some of the salary was paid by their previous.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Team, by the other guys.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yes, it's just ludicrous to even think that this is fair. Now,
could you move your team to a bigger market? You
can petition the league teams have moved. Is that healthy
for the game. If that's what you have to do,
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then that's gonna water down LA. It's gonna water down
New York, It's gonna water down San Francisco, Dallas, all
the big markets. That's not good for the game. What's
good for the game is you know, it's not only
the payroll that Marcott Andasio doles out here, but it's
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also the infrastructure of the Dominican Complex, the pitching lab,
and the complex in Arizona and Maryvale. How about expanding
your international scouting, hiring different scouts, hiring, you know, paying
scouts a little bit more money. They had to do
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it this way because there's just no way. And again,
I know what folks are thinking.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Mark Attanasio needs to spend more money. I agree with
that to an extent. I do I think he should
spend a little more money. I do, now do I
do I think he should run his business in a
deficit situation where every year you're just you're not making
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any money year to year. I don't think that's fair
to that business man. I really don't what's fair? And
that's all I ask man. That's that's it. You guys
know love this Brewers team always have. Is it okay
to be in love with a baseball team.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I think the.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Answer is yes, But I just don't believe it's fair.
And how do you argue against fair? You're gonna argue
against fair, right, it's unfair that they can do that
and you can do this. But it's the same company.
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I mean, this is all underneath the MLB a umbrella.
It really is a tricky, tricky thing, guys, it is.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It makes what the Brewers are doing that much more
impressive when you readown those numbers and their ability to
get the best record in baseball. You can say what
you want about the postseason, but look, that's a much
smaller sample size than one hundred and sixty two games.
How many they played five and four, right, they played
nine playoff games compared to one hundred and sixty two,
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and the Brewers were the best over one hundred and
sixty two. With those numbers comparatively, that is impressive.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
All told, one hundred and seventy one in one hundred
and seventy one games. Probably back to back Executive and
Manager of the Year awards. You've got Gold Glove recipients.
I would suspect at least one. They've just done a
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marvelous job with what they've had to work with.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
And that's the key. Get the most out.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Of what you have. Really, truly is the mark of
a good leader. He's getting the most production out of
what you have. But once you get the max production
out of what you do have, and you're still scraping
with these other guys that are, you know, just three
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times the payroll. Oh my goodness, come on, that's not fair.
I'm sorry, Come on now, little base it now all right,
Let's get a couple of calls in here. Let's go
to Dan. Dan, you're on the game. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Tim?
Speaker 6 (35:49):
I've been listening to you forever and I just got
to tell you, man, as a fellow musician, man, especially
when you talk about the Beatles, I am like all
in and I want to just say one thing. I
had to work. I'm a second shifter. I'm off Mondays,
which is nice, so that's why I can call. But man,
the last game, I sat in my car because I
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had to work. I missed it and I watched Don't
Let Me Down some the Beatles a roof top performance
and I was doing come on Brewers like. And what
was crazy was after they you know, I found up
the grape Vine network and stuff because we can't really
have phones and stuff. But I found out that they lost,
and man, I'm like, how come, I'm not upset. I
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was not upset. I was so part of our team.
And everyone's walking around like hey, man, like optimistically, hey, hey,
come on, you know you run into a juggernaut like that,
what are you gonna do? And we were just all happy.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Some people started kind of recalling stories of you know,
this game, that game this year and we beat the Cubs,
and you know what, I can't believe. I'm not like
super upset, but I'm really proud of my Milwaukee Brewers
and they've been my team since. Man I met Robin
Yon and Paul mallt a at a werehole shoes. They
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were saying Frisbees. But I was a little kid, and
all of a sudden, Paul Mallers like, you know what,
why why do we have wearhole shoes? Frisbees? And he
grabs a botch of baseballs right and he's start saying
these balls, He's tossing them all to all his kids.
It was something else like just so, man, I am
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not upset. I how come I'm not?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I don't know, you know what I dan. I gotta say.
I have to say that.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I wasn't as upset as I thought I would be
because I fell into that beat the Cubs thing. Make
sure you don't from the Cubs, and I think that's
a natural thing.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
But at some point, Dan, though, the bar has got
to be higher.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Oh no, no, no, no doubt. Look but I think they
now our young team got to kick behind that curtain.
Like now, it's like it's it's kind of baby steps.
I mean, you have to go through that whole thing.
And I'm not seeing the moment was too much going.
But when your offense just struggles like that at the
worst time, I think that's just baseball. And I know
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that sounds so cliche, but that's just kind of how
the game rolls. And a team like the Dodgers with
the payroll, I don't think they really care about the
regular season. They know they're going to get in the
playoffs and then they see they find that extra gear
and I think our brewers are going to be able
to do that at some point where they just that's like,
all right, we're now we're playing for the trophy.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
We're not awesome.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
You know, we're not going to be satisfied.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, all right, book them, Dana, Thank you, Dan, I
appreciate it. That is I love those stories, the whole
Robinette and Paul Moller or stuff. And I ran into
Jim Gantner at the grocery store and oh man, just
even the Prince Fielder and Ricky Weeks.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I remember going to an autograph signing or the on.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Deck event or wow, let's get to Mike, Mike, you're
next year on the game?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Hello Mike?
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
How are you tem more important? How you are?
Speaker 8 (39:06):
I'm all right, man, you know same all, you know,
just disappointed again. But they know, if they're the Brewers,
I'm always going to be a fan. So one of
the one of the smartest things I ever heard, years
and years ago. You probably probably know who Papa Joshavalier was.
I used to listen to his show and he said
something that was really When he said it, I just
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made me kind of go wow. He said, the reason
why the NFL is so successful is because they realized
that their product is competition. And he said that, and
right away I was like, what the hell is he
talking about? But then I got thinking about it and
this whole thing with you know, you know, I'm tired
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of people going, well, you know, you can't use the
salaries as an excuse as well. When five the top
five players salaries with the firm for the Dodgers is
the almost the exact same amount of money that the
entire Brewer franchise is worth, there's something wrong. I mean,
you know what I mean, it's like one point seven
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billion or something like that. Ridiculous. And and I don't know.
I mean, I get that they you know, they ran
into a pitching buzzsaw on all that, but my god,
I mean, it's just so it's so irritating. And then
to hear that ass Robert say what he said, you
know about well, let's really ruin baseball.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Well, he might get his wish.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
And for a guy who basically was given so much
because of this game, for him to say that, I
think it's just crap. I'm so glad we got a
guy like Murph. I mean, he's just the best. I
love his press conferences and how he runs stuff and
just the type of guy that he is. I'm so
glad we got a guy like him.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
So me too.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
That's all I got.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Love your show. I love listening to you, and uh
I'll be I'll be listening when spring training starts.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Man, yep, that's yeah, that's the twenty six championship season.
I mean, I can't wait. Yeah, thank you, thank you, Mike,
I appreciate that. Yeah, And and again to be humble,
I think it's probably what what I would do if
I were the Dodgers. I try and make that fly
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under the radar as as much as I could. And
Mike's right to think that that doesn't have an impact.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
On winning is ludicrous. It does. I mean if it.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
If it doesn't, then pay them all the same, pay
them all the same. Then if that does not equate
to winning, if money doesn't equate to winning, then they
also make the same amount of money.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Oh, I don't think they'd like that as a player,
would they.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Right, we'll take a break here and things up here
talking some Brewers baseball. We ain't done yet talking Brewers baseball.
It's still the twenty five season. I want to get
that word in there. But there's Hunter bombguard Tim Allen
here on the game in the iHeartRadio app. Despite the
season ending the way it did, we're still gonna smile
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about all the fun we had over the summer, right
as Brewer fans, of course, of course we are. And
there's always more. You always should want more. Even had
they won the World Series, what would we be talking about?
Let's win another one, so let's get Let's get one first,
that'd be nice, all right, More Brewers conversation tomorrow morning
(42:41):
is I'll be filling in for Arman here on the game,
so Billy Schmid and myself Andrew Ludwig talk. I'm sure
we'll talk some Brewers baseball, that's for sure tomorrow morning,
among other things. And the NFL having a couple of
games tonight, so enjoy that. As now I can focus
a little bit more on my fantasy football teams, all
(43:03):
six of them. So I've been not doing proper mainten
in some of my fantasy teams.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Now I can get back to that.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
But well worth it, as the Brewers had had a
hell of a year which just didn't finish it. So
tomorrow morning, we'll see you here on the game, and
we appreciate you guys tuned in, thanks for all the
support for Hunter Bombguard. My name is Tim Allen, and
you guys, just what the Brewers have done in this
(43:34):
eight year run has been has been pretty cool. It
really has. But again I will say that with d caveat,
let's take it to the World Series one of these years.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I think we can all agree there. All right, you guys,
have a great night.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
We'll see you tomorrow morning, and remember, as always, smile Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Bob Yucker is smiling back
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