October 24, 2025 • 43 mins
Tim Allen & Hunter Baumgardt react to the end of season press conference with Pat Murphy and Matt Arnold. Plus Pat Murphy joins the show LIVE!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome in wrapping up the twenty twenty five season
here with the Milwaukee Brewers here on the game and
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, what's going on? It's Tim Allen.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
There's a hunter bombguard and a special guest coming up
in mere minutes and we will have that for you
just in a second or two here as the Brewers
season ending press conference yesterday, and a lot of nice
little tidbits in there. Number one, just prior to that,
congratulations to Matt Arnold. Looks like he's going to be
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around a while, as they elevated him to president of
baseball Operations. That's the biggest news here this week thus far.
And now in terms of a contract, he didn't really
want to get into that, but I would assume then
that would go with an additional couple of years here
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at the at the bare minimum. I guess we'll find
that out as we move along here in the off season.
And also, are you gonna watch the World Series tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Not sure?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure I will. I gotta,
I gotta be honest. Maybe maybe do we have him? Okay,
not yet? All right, so maybe maybe I will, but
we'll see. But Uh, news on William William Contreras and
that surgery. Uh, there's little tidbits on a Jackson curio,
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a Freddie Peralta, how the organization views that Dodger series
and the exit from the twenty five postseason. So a
lot to get here to today, got until six o'clock here.
If you want to hit us up on that Nicola
Law dot com talkin text line, you can do that
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at eight seven seven, seven, nine, four, seven to three.
As we're gonna wrap this, wrap this season up. Uh,
and and in this one, how the season ended. I
think I can speak on behalf of Brewer fan somewhat disappointing,
and it does beg the question how you balance the
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fun that and the success that they had in the
regular season versus you.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Know what, uh, what happened in that Dodger series.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So Matt Arnold and Pat Murphy talked about not only
that Dodger series, but the economics of the game of baseball.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I'd be curious for both of you, having had a
few days to digest the four games against the Dodgers,
in light especially of the resources being a part of
the story going into that series, what you think coming
out of that series and moving forward, trying to get
to that next level and having to get through a
team like that with resources like that, what will it take?
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And how daunting is that challenge?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
That daunting word? We really we really have exhausted everything
we can do with that word. Right, Is there a
re daunted or undaunted, daunting, all the versions of it? Well,
just he would have a better perspective, being how he
lives it that world that can have insightful perspective from
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my world. I felt like we did not put our
best foot forward in that series, and I think it
would have made some difference. But the Dodgers were on it,
and you know when a team is on it, and
the balls we did hit hard, for instance, got caught.
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You know, our ball in play I think was one
thirty something record low. I don't think the Dodgers are
going to play that way every series. It isn't like
they're that dominated every series, as we've proved during the season.
So I don't look at it as like, how do
we get to that point? I don't think there's ever
been a team at that point, you know what I mean?
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Could ever aspire to be better than that.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's what we do. It's like, consistently, how can we
figure it out? And then we end up in these
situations and hopefully we're playing our best or things are
going great for us at that time and we don't
run into that type of buzzsaw when we did. I
think the CUB series just emotionally took so much out
of them and then to have to come back the
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next day and play it was difficult on the guys.
But you know, that's that's another learning situation for us.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
So here we go, yeah, and echo a lot of that.
I mean, I think that we it's not our job
to think about, you know, what the economics of the
sport are. That's that's above all of us. You know,
in our situation, we just have like what are we
going to do about it? You know That's that's really
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where where I come at it from is you know,
we're gonna We're gonna have the resources that we need,
we have support from our ownership to put a quality
product on the field. There are a lot of small
market teams that can't say that and we can. And
then there are also a lot of teams that spend
a lot of money that that didn't get in, you know,
And so I don't think it's just about the money,
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you know, and and about the economics of support. They
are what they are. And again, like I said, it's
just it's just what are we gonna do about it?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Matt, congrats on the new role, the new title with
regards to that, Does your day to day change it all?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Now?
Speaker 7 (05:41):
With this new title, will anything change as far as
what you're doing in your job? And second, I wanted
to give you an opportunity to maybe shout out some
of the guys from the Ivory Tower in the back
there who work with you day by day and how
important they are to what you do.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Yeah, just higher tariffs, probably there will be some tariffs. No,
they're honestly, it's it's it's uh, it's it's not gonna
change materially, Honestly, it's it's I've never really been focused
on titles at all. Honestly, it's just been something where
you keep your head down and you work hard and
good things will happen. And obviously thankful to a ton
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of people here, including this guy. First and foremost are
our ownership family. Like just too many people to think,
but especially the guys that are that are here that
I work with every single day, really really impactful in
my life. And they're they're some of my best friends too.
So it's a it's a great situation. I'm I'm proud
to be here in my walk.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, super interesting there as too.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You know how you digest that, you know, success of
the Cub series and m h and then you have
to get right into the Dodger series and zap them
of some emotion there and you learned from that.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I hope so, And I would assume so.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I think the victory over the Cubs and that five
game NLDS, I think that might have been a derivative
of what happened last year against the Mets. So you know,
if this becomes a step ladder approach, Okay, well then
what is it for next year? Then doesn't it have
to be success in the NLCS? I think if you're
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going on that approach, I would assume so. But every
season is a little bit different. You know, you may
not have things bounce right for you. You may have some
of those negative surprises that oh we didn't expect this,
which the Brewers had their fair share of, and really
every team does but to persevere through all that and
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end up with ninety seven victories at Yeah, it hopefully
is that learning experience. I would assume it would be.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I would think so.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
I mean, it's it's kind of been that step, kind
of a step ladder if you look at it in
that respect, right where you get you know, you can
to get over the hump of winning a series. Okay,
well you could count as two this year, and I
think Pat Murphy has and so you win the Wildcard
round just by virtue of not being in it, and
then you win the NLDS by virtue of being the
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Cubs in five, and then maybe next year is the
next step and winning that NLCS and what they learned
this year I think can help them next year, just
like what they learned last year. Losing in a winner
take all game helped in the winner take all game
that they played against the Chicago Cubs in Game five
of that NLDS. So I think with young players, I
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think you have to they have to develop not only
during the regular season but also during the postseason. They
have to learn how to how that baseball is just
a little different and it so what.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Did they learn, you know here let's let's say here
a little bit more from Pat Murphy here. Yeah, as
I thought it was one of the best questions asked
at the season ending press conference yesterday. I believe it
was Don Catronio that asked him about, you know, what
has he learned the last couple of years that he
didn't know, you know, the prior since fifteen, the prior,
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you know, seven years or so with the organization.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Give this a listen.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Two years, two playoff runs as the guy in charge. Now,
obviously you were with Craig for all those years. What
have you learned in just the last two seasons that
maybe you didn't expect about the manager role or you know,
the day to day of this job as opposed to
what you were doing before.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I didn't realize how great the media was a
close look at that, and I really do enjoy you people,
or most of you. No, nothing, nothing that surprises me
that much about it. You know, I just I want
to get better. You know, I always say that, you know,
we're in we're under construction, and that's truth.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
My notes this morning are about how about this particular thing.
Let's let's look at the difference between beating number ones?
That was my topic today, how do you beat number ones?
Like what I felt about it in midyear and what
I feel about it now after going through it and
having a bunch of number one shove on us here
in the last ten games, like what's imperative and beating
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number one? So that I'm just constantly how can we
get better? How can I get better? How can I
build better relationships here? And there? Be cautious of my sarcasm,
Be cautious of things. You don't know. Everybody's not going
to take it the same way, you know. So it's
just it's just constant trying to figure out my wardrobe.
This is pretty standard costume for me off field costume.
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How many shirts you said you have like five? Five
surf notes four or five? Have a five manner tas.
I actually have seven T shirts and I rotate them.
Two of them are the same, it says, hunt and
hit the same one.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
We see that one.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So comfortable. I got seven T shirts, actually five of these,
and probably twelve pairs of black sweats and twenty pairs
of slippy jaars. Nothing else is required. Kind of a
wrap right there, full costume every event.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
There he is Pat Murphy Yesterday's season ending press conference
as the Brewers close out the twenty twenty five season.
Although it's a year round job and we understand that
in baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Speak of the devil.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Here a nice little surprise as we welcome in live
here on the game and the iHeartRadio app. Brewers manager
Pat Murphy. Pat, I appreciate the time. This has got
to be just really a whirlwind for you at the
tail ends here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You got to be feeling okay and.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Relaxed a little bit now that you can focus on
a little family time.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
Yeah, great to be on tim only for you. It's
been a hectic day. We had a five hour delay
on her flight, but the family's back safe Arizona. Yeah,
a lot of moving parts right now. So we still
got a lot to do with the Brewers in the
next month and hopefully we do get some some downtime.
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It's not nearly as busy day to day, but just
a lot when you transition back.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, well, Pat, I'm trying to transition here on how
to really process what occurred. I mean, as a fan,
I was like ninety seven wins and the journey Craig
Council taught me quite a few things. And years ago
when we were talking to him, he had said, you know,
the outcome of a season doesn't take away from.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The fun that you had along the journey.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And that's true, and I've always said that it doesn't
take away from you know, walk offs and winning streaks
and just Mizerowski and all these things that occurred.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I don't want that ending here to soil that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But how do you balance was it successful and then
versus the way it ended here with La?
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Well, it's offensive if anybody says our season wasn't successful.
They don't know professional sports. Your small market team with
a budget that people have five times as much, and
for the guys to go out and do what they do.
That offends me if they say it's not successful. And
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the fact that you even bring it up, Tim is
almost offensive too. But it was certainly successful as far
as we wanted to go. No, we wanted to win
the World Series. But that doesn't happen very often in teams,
small market teams, but it does happen, and we want
to be the exception. Whether it's one in every twenty
years and one in every thirty years, we want to
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be that exception, But to not say that this team
wasn't successful, you know, that's they saw what the Dodgers
put out there in the last series. They played their
best series of the year. We're coming off the most
emotional series around and beating the Cubs and it was
really emotional. Had one day to practice and then we
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start again, and yeah, the timing of it, and they're
starting pitching the way they pitched. We kept them close
the best we could, but obviously ran into a buzz saw.
And that happens from time to time. That's why you
don't judge your season just on the postseason.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And that's not an indictment on the team as a whole.
This is the season as a whole, for sure. I
mean Seattle Mariners.
Speaker 10 (14:35):
Cal question, your question, your question.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I know that, but I mean there's other people that
do view it that way. Look at cal Raleigh. He
had said, and he hated to use the word, but
he used the word failure for the Seattle Mariners that
I won't go that far for sure, Pat, not at all.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I don't.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
I don't think it was didn't have a failure season.
Tod Rawley wasn't referring to it as the season as
a failure. They're just they're referring to it. We didn't
go where we wanted to go. We didn't we didn't
get out of the season exactly everything we wanted. But
to say it was a total failure is you know,
he obviously didn't mean it that way, and if he did,
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then I would feel good about when we play the Maritters,
because that's not a very smart comment to me.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, gotcha. All right, Just a couple of quick things.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I know you want to just get into your off
season here, but what gives me hope is is that
every team is different, and I get it. Bullpens are
extremely different year to year, so you got to see
how that shakes out.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But there are some pieces there.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But the foundation for Matt Arnold and as you say,
the Ivory Tower, a lot of these players under team control,
and they may move some who knows what's going to happen.
But for the most part, you've got some pieces in
place that I think Brewer fans are really really positive
about moving forward for this organization.
Speaker 10 (15:59):
No, I do. I'm excited about it. We do. They're very,
very young. The pieces we do have are that you
can just hang your hat on. But again we're gonna
have to run it back kind of the same way.
Not expect too much from the outside, just go ahead
and uh compete like we do. Even though the league
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got much better, the Reds got much better, They got
an awful scary pitching staff, the Pirates got better. The
Cardinals are a little bit in flux, but they're very talented.
And the Cubs, you know, by far ahead the you know,
most talent, and didn't didn't get the cash in totally
on it, but they had a good season. So we'll
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have our work it out for us. And I look
at it like every year is wow, we got to
start all over again. Because players don't always play the
best their best the next year. They might have a
contract on their mind, or they might have had now
they got two years in or one year in, and
now they think they know, and now they don't prepare
the same way, and they're as hungry. So I prepare
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for all of that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
All right, Pat, final thing here, your character, your demeanor
did shine through this year. And I think Brewer fans
and really nationally because I see on a lot of
podcasts and national stuff too. But and it didn't seem
fabricated to me at all. And we've been talking for
many years and it's just having fun. I appreciate that
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it's different, and I think Brewer fans really get a
kick out of that. The whole pocket pancakes and you
know your a tire half the time and things like that.
I think you fit Wisconsin very well.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You really do.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
Pat, Oh, thank you for saying that. I appreciate it.
I'm not trying to not trying to fit. To be honest,
I'm not trying to be outrageous, and I'm not trying
to draw attention to myself. But you know, at my age,
you do what you do and some like it, some don't,
and that's really none of my business. My business is
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trying to help the Brewers. I'll be as good as
they possibly can.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It's awesome, Pat, enjoy your off season. I know you
pressed on time, but thank you for doing this. We
appreciate it, and hopefully we get a chance to talk
again on the air.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Okay, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
All right, there he is Brewers manager Pat Murphy. You
can almost hear him decompress hunter.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Yeah for sure, for sure, and I would be if
that is a grind and we know some of it, obviously,
working every day of it. But it's different for the
guys that are in it trying to win games, as
he said, for the Milwaukee Brewers. And I really like
what he said there about the success and failure.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I think it's a really good way to put it.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
And as much as we want to say that World
Series and yes, that is what we all want, Pat
Murphy wants it, we want, everybody wants it. There is
only one out of thirty teams that do that does
that every year. So if you strictly say it's a
success or failure based on the championship, like you said,
profession sports just aren't that way. And this team is
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clearly building towards something and that is an exciting thing
to be a fan of.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
With our you know, Milwaukee station and some things in
flux here, this this is the type of guy Pat
Murphy is. I said, hey, dude, can you join us?
I know you're busy and you're traveling and all that.
He had said. You know, I explained to him the
situation with the station. He said, I have to based
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on that, I have to jump on with you. And
I appreciate that. And you played a clip here just
a short time ago about how he likes the media,
and you've been in there. Yeah, I think I think
that was a pleasant surprise for Murph once he got
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the gig, because let's face it, back in when I
met him and started chatting with him was right around
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Sure, and nobody who interviews the bench coach. I mean,
it's very rare.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So Billy and I, Bill Schmid and I just kind
of attached ourselves to Murph because I don't know, he
just was a good conversation to have. But you knew,
you sort of knew at that point that you know,
he was he was going to be something special with
his conversations. But it's it's also once he got the
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helm a couple of years ago. I think it did
surprise him how the media didn't really battle him a lot.
You know, he he's gone at me many times. You
guys know that, and and we I mean just a
few minutes ago. I don't like the question. Okay, well
that's where Brewer fans are emotionally. Was it successful? Yeah,
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I guess, But but then there's the Dodgers, and I
think that's normal.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But I think he really enjoyed you guys in the media.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
He did, and I would think that you know, a
lot of maybe managers around baseball when he was first
getting into it last year, where you know, maybe it
had a bad rap, right, and he got to do
this twice a day. It's part of the you know,
part of the grind, et cetera. But he kind of
has taken a different approach to it where I think
it's more of his. I mean, he said this, and
I believe him, where it's kind of his just time
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to unwind and not be in such an intense environment
and more just talk talk through things. And there'll be
times where we're talking to him in his office and
he'll say something and be like, you know what, I
want to write that down.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
He'll write it down. Like I think it's almost like.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
A you know, obviously like therapy session is too probably
too far, but more so just it it kind of
helps him talk through things. I think he genuinely likes
that part of the day. Now every day does he
come in and say I cannot wait to talk to
the media. Maybe not, And maybe there are some days.
Obviously we all like parts of our jobs better than others.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
On some days.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
But I think as opposed to other managers maybe around
it does seem like he really genuinely does like it
and and from all accounts, he.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Does hard to be hungry when you're full. Yes, I
mean that's that's amrphism mm hmm. I mean he's had many,
many of those weased uphill, Yeah, under construction everything. Yeah,
I mean we appreciate Murph jumping on and I know,
could you imagine, you know, he takes time for us
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and he's literally just walking in his door from going
home for the season.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Literally, I mean literally that's that's where we caught him,
was literally walking in the door.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean that's it's it's just genuine tim, It's
and it and I just and I I really uh,
you know, just throughout the season definitely, when you know,
after an office session with him or just I kind
of think about, I'm grateful to be able to cover
this guy because it's it's just a and I've learned
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so much about baseball.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And you saw the national national people jump aboard once
they detected who and what Murph was.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Oh, they were all.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Over it, all over it absolutely, and they've written some
great articles about him.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And everything like, yeah, he is guys before the break here,
he is a huge part of the.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Brewer's success right now. Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He might be more of the part of the success
than Matt Arnold is.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
This is a day to day grind and this is
a I don't want to say manipulation, but this is
a molding of twenty six guys plus I mean double that,
more than double that in terms of personnel throughout a season,
keeping these guys on tasks that whole win tonight thing.
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And I do I think you could give him far
less talent and still get some success out of it.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I do. And so Matt.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Arnold, you got a little wiggle room because you have Murphy.
I mean, who'd have thought for some of these players
what they were doing. Now again, you attribute some of
the pitching success Chad Patrick and some of these other
guys to Hook and that pitching department. Sure, but overall,
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I do believe Murphy gets more out of his players,
gets more of the success pat on the back than
Matt Arnold's.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
That's interesting to think about.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
I would tend to say they're kind of neck and neck,
just because of.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Course you would.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I just I yeah, just because they're so boy.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
What I mean, the the pieces, the kind of diamonds
in the rough that Arnold finds. But what I love
is they're in sync. I remember when Devin Williams was
traded and they got Caleb Durban back, and I asked
Matt Arnold, like, how much of okay, kind of the
profile that Pat Murphy works best with, how much does
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that take into account? He's like, absolutely, we take that
into account. Because Matt Arnold knows the type of team
that Pat Murphy works best with. They quickly established that
like that sometimes takes a while and takes years to know,
but they quickly Okay, they're on the same page. They
like a you know, running gun and NonStop you know,
just intense, kind of relentless team and guys that can
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are hungry and want to get things done. That was
Caleb Dermot and nutshell and boom, you solved your third
base position with a guy who didn't necessarily stick out
when they traded for him, but absolutely contributed to a
ninety seven win season. So they are just very much
in sync.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Matt Arnold grabs Blake Perkins a couple of years ago
to a major league deal.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
He's a minor league player. Sign him to do a
major league deal.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Matt Arnold grabs rule five Isaac Collins. Okay, now these
were these two players, these are just two examples. Is
that more credit for Matt Arnold for getting them or
is it credit for putting them in a position to succeed?
And that would be Murphy.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, so it's it's chicken or the egg. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
It's like Matt Arnold acquayers Andrew Vaughn, and Murph says, hey,
just don't don't chase, you chase, You're gonna sit exactly,
and then boom. He has a great rest of the
season with the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
All right, Still more to come on that season ending
press conference from yesterday, More from Matt Arnold and Pat Murphy.
As we say goodbye to the twenty twenty five season
here on the game and the iHeartRadio app on it,
we're wrapping up the Brewers twenty five season here on
the Game in the iHeartRadio app there's Hunter Bomb, Guard
(26:50):
Tim Allen, and h you know, I don't I can't
wait for the twenty twenty six championship season to get going.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I know where need in football.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I get it, basketball just firing up, But man, I'll
miss Brewers baseball this year.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What a season. I mean, think about the.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And I'm not gonna bring up the mark out in
ostio comments and some people call that a lightning rod
or whatever, but I mean think about the journey and
that fun that was this season.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It was. It was a ton of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It just was all of it, you know, on a
nightly basis, seeing some of these stories take take, fold
and unfold, I should say, it was just really, this
is one of the seasons that you're gonna remember, even
though you know it didn't turn out the way we
all wanted. I look at it as look at the
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ninety two season, one of my favorite seasons. They've never
made the playoffs yet it's one of my favorite Brewer
seasons of all time. Obviously eighty two is up there,
two thousand and eight is up there, eleven eighteen.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And then this one eighty one.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You might want to throw that one in there as well.
But this is this has to be one of your
favorite seasons.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Right, Yeah? That was that was boy.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Yeah, you're as far as season long like for the
other ones, regardless.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Of outcome, your favorite season.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Right I, it might be. I think twenty eighteen and
this one are tied for me. I wasn't covering the
team in twenty eighteen, so that was obviously it's kind
of a different lens, different scope, but still like, just
as far as the way the season went, kind of
the overachieving so to speak, the unexpected and all the
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special moments, twenty twenty five might be top for me
right now.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, it's up there, but again you have to disclaim
it with regardless of exit.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh, for sure, regardless of how it turned out.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
But it's also this in twenty eighteen are tied for
as far as they went. You could say they went
closer because they got to game seven more games, a
couple more games, but overall it's the same round. So
it's they went this year. They went as far as
they've ever gone in my lifetime. So okay, yeah, you
know that that is that's going to be up there.
Obviously with twenty I guess twenty eleven too, they did
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the same thing. So now they've been there three times
at the CUSP.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Oh, they're gonna get in there Sunday, Timmy.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Regardless of outcome.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Ninety seven wins it's just it's just amazing now that
you look back at it and again, so what do
you do next? I mean, you go back at it
to the twenty six season. Yesterday in the season ending
press conference with Matt Arnold and Pat Murphy, Matt Arnold
first priority of the off season, when.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
The off season begins so abruptly, what is first on
your list for either of you? Of priorities, one of
them is probably coaches contracts. Those typically are end of
the month.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Is there any anything on that now?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Working through all those things, there's it's like you said,
there's not much of an off ramp. I've heard somebody
describe it as a car crash. I think that the
good teams, you know, don't have the luxury of having
an off ramp. And uh so, yeah, we're we're hitting
the ground running on all fronts.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
It's off season planning, it's it's contracts, it's it's everything
getting ready for the GM meetings coming up in a
couple of weeks. So we're all systems go. Have not
had a chance to come up for air, you know. Honestly,
I came home from l A spend all day on
the phone Sunday and then you know, in the office Monday,
so it's ready for the off season.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, there he is, Matt Arnold. That's a year round thing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And we'll get little tidbits here and there, you know,
a player acquisition, signing, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yeah, they just say Sammy Peralta the other day.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So again pitching, and you saw the depth get tested
here early in the season and late in the season.
And that's I think maybe one of those learning things
that I think for not only the organization, but for
Arnold and Murphy specifically and in particular they're pitching down
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the stretching into the postseason, into the postseason. How starters
just disappeared on you? Ooh, I don't know. I think
you'll see a different look next year into the postseason,
and I think you'll have starting pitchers. I get once
in a while if you want to throw away Miley
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out there as an opener, but you're going to need
starting pitching and to lean on the guys that got
you there. I think that's part of that learning process
year to year. We talked about that what maybe the
Brewers players learned about the Mets in last year's Wildcard Series.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So Murphy yesterday.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Went on to talk about preparing some of his players
a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
For next year.
Speaker 11 (32:15):
You talked about it when you were talking about coming
out of the NLCS just a few minutes ago. You
talked about it in Game five of the NLDS, just
how guys seemed drained by a lot of the stuff
that they had been through. After seeing that and kind
of seeing the performance in the NLCS, is there anything
that after that you take a step back and think
about ways that you could maybe better prepare guys, whether
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it's workloads, whether it's the mental side of it. Is
there anything that you come out of that experience looking
at and kind of drawing from in terms of just
setting guys up to hopefully be in that spot again
next year?
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, I mean there's definitely definitely things of you know,
to take note of, you know, coming out that's immediately
what you know, that was the day that we lost
in Los Angeles. That was my first day of notes
postseason recommendations, like what are things that are are parent here? Now?
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Do we know for sure that if Contreras caught ten
less games we would have been better?
Speaker 11 (33:21):
Then?
Speaker 7 (33:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You know, but It speaks to the fact of how
big of a grind it is, especially when you play
like we play, meaning we have a bunch of guys
that are, for lack of a better term, overachievers, guys
that play above their physical talent. And is there something
about that that crushes them after a while? They play
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so hard, you know, a Durban or a terrag a
sal Is there something to that that we need to
protect them that they're a little bit fragile while they're young.
Do we need to schedule the off days differently? It's
not a guaranteed recipe there, you know what I mean?
It isn't just as easy as not a magic number.
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And people will look what the Dodgers did well, they
didn't do it by design. They did it by one.
They have incredible depth and to survive that and survive
all the injuries and they have, you know, a level
of talent that is in the top end guys that's
so incredible that they can have a dominant performance. And
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I don't think we had a brutal performance. We had
brutal results, but we didn't We didn't have guys trying
any less or it's just when you face pitching like that,
you're not gonna you know, nobody's surprised when a guy
goes from one level to the next and struggles offensively.
They're like, wow, he's facing a higher level. Those pitchers
and or at least three or four of them, that
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was a higher level than anybody had seen in the year,
you know what I mean, that was special stuff on
those particular nights. So I don't look at our performance
in that against the is like that brutal. We didn't
put our best foot forward. But yeah, I mean there's
all sorts of things to learn from it about how
do we get them playing consistent. One is, you don't
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play five games in the in the division series, so
you have a couple of days. So there's all sorts
of things that play into it, and there's no there's
no definite. You know. I got a lot of recommendations
from a lot of people, and I've got a nice
little corps of guys outside the organization that that do
it for a living, and it's kind of got their recommendations,
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and I just will try to shake it up and
garner as much as we can so we can be
in this position if we're lucky enough to be. It's
not easy to lead the major leagues and wins, so
credit to the players and the way they went after
it every day. I'd hate to lose that win tonight
mentality or show them any signs of not trying to
win tonight. I think that hurts your team more. And
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you could end up sitting at home because you're going
to arrest guys, you know, and you got a lot
of fuel left in the tank.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, is so.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You know, a couple of things here on that clip.
One would be, yeah, the offense did end brutally, Sorry
but it did. You can say it hit into a
little bad luck. I get it totally. You know, you
could say that the Dodgers hit a couple of balls
that hit into bad luck too. So we're a horse
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a piece there. But just from look at the numbers,
don't lie. I didn't make the numbers up. Fourteen hits
and four runs in four games. I didn't they made
those up. That's pretty brutal. I mean, I don't care
if it's the Brewers or any other team in baseball.
That's those are brutal numbers. Now, I agree with them
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that did they try less?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Were they you know? Was it max effort. Of course
it was. There's no question.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So you know, again that's maybe semantics it could be,
but yeah it did. Now on the learning, on the
learning side of things, I did like that answer that, Hey,
you know, we don't really know if Contreras would arrest
it or some guys would arrest it or but that
not losing this wind tonight mentality, that's music to my ears.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, that's important. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
And that's the main basis of what Pat Murphy his
message is in that clubhouse. And you don't want to
lose the essence of what you're trying to be still
on your team when you had this much success in
the first two years.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No question about it. That is one of the best philosophy.
And I would you know, into it hurts a Tuesday
night game against Pittsburgh that you lose in early June, Hey,
that's lost.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Man, that hurts.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I know you're going to lose some but the way
you lost that game that hurts. You know, things like that.
So I applaud that mission and that mission statement from Murph.
I hope he does not lose that win tonight mentality.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
We'll deal with it down the line. Well, right now,
we're gonna we're gonna do our job with.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Max effort on trying to win two nights baseball game.
All right, A lot to unpack here in the off season. So,
as I said, we're gonna get little tidbits here and there.
I'll do my best to keep you up to speed
on any information that comes out of the Brewers organizational camp.
But one would be Freddie Peralta, And and that is
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really a priority at the top of a lot of
Brewer conversations, whether it be fans or I'm assuming the uh,
the organization as well. It may take a little stand
still here to let things settle down. But this Freddy
Peralta is is he going to go by way of
a Devin Williams? Is he gonna go by way of
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a Corbyn Burns or a Willia Domas He has one
year left on his team control and that is a
team options. So they will exercise that officially. And what
do you do then? Do you hold on to him?
Do you do you Corbyn burns him with a year
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left and then trade him in the off season get
a couple of minor leaguers. I would argue that I
would be curious as to see offers. Will never know
it what the Brewers offers would have been. Had Corbyn
Burns stayed with the organization to the halfway mark, maybe
you would have been offered way more than Joey Ortiz
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and DL Hall. So how do they handle Freddy Peralta.
Here's Matt Arnold yesterday.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Yeah, I feel like that's been out there, and to
be honest, it's it's it's not at the front of
my mind, honestly, it's something where you know, of course,
you know, you can never shut the door on anything
in our In our situation, of course, we've had to
make very tough decisions, and I think that's part of
what we have to do, is make tough decisions to
help the long term view of the franchise. But I
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can tell you that Freddie means more to that clubhouse
and than most that I've ever been around. And you know,
he's a special player on and off the field, and
I'm proud to have him as as a teammaker.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
And a remarkable season for Freddie Peralta. Let's not discount
what he did this year. Hey, Hey, let's let's go
to the bargaining table. See see where the threshold is
on an extension.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The only.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Thing that you have in your arsenal is this one
year at only what eight million?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (40:31):
I think just over eight Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
You do have that as a little bit of leverage
because that can go up. So he makes money there?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Who knows? All Right? One one clip I want to
get to on the other side.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Here is how Pat Murphy viewed shohe Otani's performance.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I think I might be with him to a degree
as to how he answered that. So we'll do that next.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Wrapping up what was the Brewers twenty five season. Here
on the game in the iHeartRadio app, there's a hunch
of bomb guard Tim Allen talking Bruis Baseball. Urphy view
the Otani historic sort of game. We'll give this a listen.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 12 (41:16):
I don't look at that as anything.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I spend any time on that, Like, I don't. I don't.
I don't like to lose, no matter what game it is,
tend nothing to you know, one nothing to no hitter
to one hitter, you know, like it's just like it
is what it is.
Speaker 12 (41:32):
Let everybody else enjoy the historic moment. I didn't enjoy
it that much. But I knew what I was part of.
It was like a twelve year.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Old little league you know what I mean.
Speaker 10 (41:45):
It looked like the big twelve.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Year old in a local little league game and he
hits three homers and punches out everybody. It didn't feel
that good. But yeah, I don't categorize that as oh
my god, you know, that's against us.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I am so with him on that. I am, and
I've already reacted to it. I don't care. In fact,
it's only rubbing it in my face that that we
have to see the highlights of that against the Brewers
backdrop uniform.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
I know, with b A on the call and with
b I didn't even think of that. Yeah, but he
was I mean, he was awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah he was fair about it. But yeah, I'm I'm
with Murphy on that. Okay, Well, that's going to wrap
up today's show. Be on the lookout here on the
Facebook page Post Gamers with Tim Allen. I'll keep you
up to speed as to when we can talk Brewers
baseball again. Uh and uh here on the game and
and the iHeartRadio app. There'll be some uh you know,
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jump in shows here down the line. Here, Hunter, can
you maybe take a few days off and I'll jump
in for YouTube.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
Absolutely, we are going anytime, any anywhere. We are going
to try to get you on the air and looking
forward to it as we wind down twenty twenty five
as a whole the baseball season over. But are you
Are you gonna pay attention to the World Series?
Speaker 10 (43:10):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't think so tonight. I just I can't do
it tonight.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I'll let the series get into it a little breathe
a little bit. I just don't want I'll obviously read
about it in the morning, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Go Blue Jays in agreement there.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yes go Blue Jays, Yes, indeed. All right, Well that's
gonna do it for us.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
You guys, have a great weekend, and be on the
lookout for lots of Packers coverage here on the game.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
In the iHeartRadio app for Auntra.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Bombguard, this is Tim Allen saying smile Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Bob Buker is smiling back.
And welcome in wrapping up the twenty twenty five season
here with the Milwaukee Brewers here on the game and
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, what's going on? It's Tim Allen.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
There's a hunter bombguard and a special guest coming up
in mere minutes and we will have that for you
just in a second or two here as the Brewers
season ending press conference yesterday, and a lot of nice
little tidbits in there. Number one, just prior to that,
congratulations to Matt Arnold. Looks like he's going to be
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around a while, as they elevated him to president of
baseball Operations. That's the biggest news here this week thus far.
And now in terms of a contract, he didn't really
want to get into that, but I would assume then
that would go with an additional couple of years here
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at the at the bare minimum. I guess we'll find
that out as we move along here in the off season.
And also, are you gonna watch the World Series tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Not sure?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure I will. I gotta,
I gotta be honest. Maybe maybe do we have him? Okay,
not yet? All right, so maybe maybe I will, but
we'll see. But Uh, news on William William Contreras and
that surgery. Uh, there's little tidbits on a Jackson curio,
(01:37):
a Freddie Peralta, how the organization views that Dodger series
and the exit from the twenty five postseason. So a
lot to get here to today, got until six o'clock here.
If you want to hit us up on that Nicola
Law dot com talkin text line, you can do that
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at eight seven seven, seven, nine, four, seven to three.
As we're gonna wrap this, wrap this season up. Uh,
and and in this one, how the season ended. I
think I can speak on behalf of Brewer fan somewhat disappointing,
and it does beg the question how you balance the
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fun that and the success that they had in the
regular season versus you.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Know what, uh, what happened in that Dodger series.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So Matt Arnold and Pat Murphy talked about not only
that Dodger series, but the economics of the game of baseball.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I'd be curious for both of you, having had a
few days to digest the four games against the Dodgers,
in light especially of the resources being a part of
the story going into that series, what you think coming
out of that series and moving forward, trying to get
to that next level and having to get through a
team like that with resources like that, what will it take?
(03:01):
And how daunting is that challenge?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
That daunting word? We really we really have exhausted everything
we can do with that word. Right, Is there a
re daunted or undaunted, daunting, all the versions of it? Well,
just he would have a better perspective, being how he
lives it that world that can have insightful perspective from
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my world. I felt like we did not put our
best foot forward in that series, and I think it
would have made some difference. But the Dodgers were on it,
and you know when a team is on it, and
the balls we did hit hard, for instance, got caught.
(03:48):
You know, our ball in play I think was one
thirty something record low. I don't think the Dodgers are
going to play that way every series. It isn't like
they're that dominated every series, as we've proved during the season.
So I don't look at it as like, how do
we get to that point? I don't think there's ever
been a team at that point, you know what I mean?
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Could ever aspire to be better than that.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It's just.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
It's what we do. It's like, consistently, how can we
figure it out? And then we end up in these
situations and hopefully we're playing our best or things are
going great for us at that time and we don't
run into that type of buzzsaw when we did. I
think the CUB series just emotionally took so much out
of them and then to have to come back the
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next day and play it was difficult on the guys.
But you know, that's that's another learning situation for us.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
So here we go, yeah, and echo a lot of that.
I mean, I think that we it's not our job
to think about, you know, what the economics of the
sport are. That's that's above all of us. You know,
in our situation, we just have like what are we
going to do about it? You know That's that's really
(05:03):
where where I come at it from is you know,
we're gonna We're gonna have the resources that we need,
we have support from our ownership to put a quality
product on the field. There are a lot of small
market teams that can't say that and we can. And
then there are also a lot of teams that spend
a lot of money that that didn't get in, you know,
And so I don't think it's just about the money,
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you know, and and about the economics of support. They
are what they are. And again, like I said, it's
just it's just what are we gonna do about it?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Matt, congrats on the new role, the new title with
regards to that, Does your day to day change it all?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Now?
Speaker 7 (05:41):
With this new title, will anything change as far as
what you're doing in your job? And second, I wanted
to give you an opportunity to maybe shout out some
of the guys from the Ivory Tower in the back
there who work with you day by day and how
important they are to what you do.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Yeah, just higher tariffs, probably there will be some tariffs. No,
they're honestly, it's it's it's uh, it's it's not gonna
change materially, Honestly, it's it's I've never really been focused
on titles at all. Honestly, it's just been something where
you keep your head down and you work hard and
good things will happen. And obviously thankful to a ton
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of people here, including this guy. First and foremost are
our ownership family. Like just too many people to think,
but especially the guys that are that are here that
I work with every single day, really really impactful in
my life. And they're they're some of my best friends too.
So it's a it's a great situation. I'm I'm proud
to be here in my walk.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, super interesting there as too.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You know how you digest that, you know, success of
the Cub series and m h and then you have
to get right into the Dodger series and zap them
of some emotion there and you learned from that.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I hope so, And I would assume so.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I think the victory over the Cubs and that five
game NLDS, I think that might have been a derivative
of what happened last year against the Mets. So you know,
if this becomes a step ladder approach, Okay, well then
what is it for next year? Then doesn't it have
to be success in the NLCS? I think if you're
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going on that approach, I would assume so. But every
season is a little bit different. You know, you may
not have things bounce right for you. You may have some
of those negative surprises that oh we didn't expect this,
which the Brewers had their fair share of, and really
every team does but to persevere through all that and
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end up with ninety seven victories at Yeah, it hopefully
is that learning experience. I would assume it would be.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I would think so.
Speaker 8 (07:57):
I mean, it's it's kind of been that step, kind
of a step ladder if you look at it in
that respect, right where you get you know, you can
to get over the hump of winning a series. Okay,
well you could count as two this year, and I
think Pat Murphy has and so you win the Wildcard
round just by virtue of not being in it, and
then you win the NLDS by virtue of being the
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Cubs in five, and then maybe next year is the
next step and winning that NLCS and what they learned
this year I think can help them next year, just
like what they learned last year. Losing in a winner
take all game helped in the winner take all game
that they played against the Chicago Cubs in Game five
of that NLDS. So I think with young players, I
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think you have to they have to develop not only
during the regular season but also during the postseason. They
have to learn how to how that baseball is just
a little different and it so what.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Did they learn, you know here let's let's say here
a little bit more from Pat Murphy here. Yeah, as
I thought it was one of the best questions asked
at the season ending press conference yesterday. I believe it
was Don Catronio that asked him about, you know, what
has he learned the last couple of years that he
didn't know, you know, the prior since fifteen, the prior,
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you know, seven years or so with the organization.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Give this a listen.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
Two years, two playoff runs as the guy in charge. Now,
obviously you were with Craig for all those years. What
have you learned in just the last two seasons that
maybe you didn't expect about the manager role or you know,
the day to day of this job as opposed to
what you were doing before.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I didn't realize how great the media was a
close look at that, and I really do enjoy you people,
or most of you. No, nothing, nothing that surprises me
that much about it. You know, I just I want
to get better. You know, I always say that, you know,
we're in we're under construction, and that's truth.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
My notes this morning are about how about this particular thing.
Let's let's look at the difference between beating number ones?
That was my topic today, how do you beat number ones?
Like what I felt about it in midyear and what
I feel about it now after going through it and
having a bunch of number one shove on us here
in the last ten games, like what's imperative and beating
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number one? So that I'm just constantly how can we
get better? How can I get better? How can I
build better relationships here? And there? Be cautious of my sarcasm,
Be cautious of things. You don't know. Everybody's not going
to take it the same way, you know. So it's
just it's just constant trying to figure out my wardrobe.
This is pretty standard costume for me off field costume.
(10:48):
How many shirts you said you have like five? Five
surf notes four or five? Have a five manner tas.
I actually have seven T shirts and I rotate them.
Two of them are the same, it says, hunt and
hit the same one.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
We see that one.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So comfortable. I got seven T shirts, actually five of these,
and probably twelve pairs of black sweats and twenty pairs
of slippy jaars. Nothing else is required. Kind of a
wrap right there, full costume every event.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
There he is Pat Murphy Yesterday's season ending press conference
as the Brewers close out the twenty twenty five season.
Although it's a year round job and we understand that
in baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Speak of the devil.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Here a nice little surprise as we welcome in live
here on the game and the iHeartRadio app. Brewers manager
Pat Murphy. Pat, I appreciate the time. This has got
to be just really a whirlwind for you at the
tail ends here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You got to be feeling okay and.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Relaxed a little bit now that you can focus on
a little family time.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
Yeah, great to be on tim only for you. It's
been a hectic day. We had a five hour delay
on her flight, but the family's back safe Arizona. Yeah,
a lot of moving parts right now. So we still
got a lot to do with the Brewers in the
next month and hopefully we do get some some downtime.
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It's not nearly as busy day to day, but just
a lot when you transition back.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, well, Pat, I'm trying to transition here on how
to really process what occurred. I mean, as a fan,
I was like ninety seven wins and the journey Craig
Council taught me quite a few things. And years ago
when we were talking to him, he had said, you know,
the outcome of a season doesn't take away from.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The fun that you had along the journey.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And that's true, and I've always said that it doesn't
take away from you know, walk offs and winning streaks
and just Mizerowski and all these things that occurred.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And I don't want that ending here to soil that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
But how do you balance was it successful and then
versus the way it ended here with La?
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Well, it's offensive if anybody says our season wasn't successful.
They don't know professional sports. Your small market team with
a budget that people have five times as much, and
for the guys to go out and do what they do.
That offends me if they say it's not successful. And
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the fact that you even bring it up, Tim is
almost offensive too. But it was certainly successful as far
as we wanted to go. No, we wanted to win
the World Series. But that doesn't happen very often in teams,
small market teams, but it does happen, and we want
to be the exception. Whether it's one in every twenty
years and one in every thirty years, we want to
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be that exception, But to not say that this team
wasn't successful, you know, that's they saw what the Dodgers
put out there in the last series. They played their
best series of the year. We're coming off the most
emotional series around and beating the Cubs and it was
really emotional. Had one day to practice and then we
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start again, and yeah, the timing of it, and they're
starting pitching the way they pitched. We kept them close
the best we could, but obviously ran into a buzz saw.
And that happens from time to time. That's why you
don't judge your season just on the postseason.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And that's not an indictment on the team as a whole.
This is the season as a whole, for sure. I
mean Seattle Mariners.
Speaker 10 (14:35):
Cal question, your question, your question.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I know that, but I mean there's other people that
do view it that way. Look at cal Raleigh. He
had said, and he hated to use the word, but
he used the word failure for the Seattle Mariners that
I won't go that far for sure, Pat, not at all.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I don't.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
I don't think it was didn't have a failure season.
Tod Rawley wasn't referring to it as the season as
a failure. They're just they're referring to it. We didn't
go where we wanted to go. We didn't we didn't
get out of the season exactly everything we wanted. But
to say it was a total failure is you know,
he obviously didn't mean it that way, and if he did,
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then I would feel good about when we play the Maritters,
because that's not a very smart comment to me.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, gotcha. All right, Just a couple of quick things.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I know you want to just get into your off
season here, but what gives me hope is is that
every team is different, and I get it. Bullpens are
extremely different year to year, so you got to see
how that shakes out.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But there are some pieces there.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But the foundation for Matt Arnold and as you say,
the Ivory Tower, a lot of these players under team control,
and they may move some who knows what's going to happen.
But for the most part, you've got some pieces in
place that I think Brewer fans are really really positive
about moving forward for this organization.
Speaker 10 (15:59):
No, I do. I'm excited about it. We do. They're very,
very young. The pieces we do have are that you
can just hang your hat on. But again we're gonna
have to run it back kind of the same way.
Not expect too much from the outside, just go ahead
and uh compete like we do. Even though the league
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got much better, the Reds got much better, They got
an awful scary pitching staff, the Pirates got better. The
Cardinals are a little bit in flux, but they're very talented.
And the Cubs, you know, by far ahead the you know,
most talent, and didn't didn't get the cash in totally
on it, but they had a good season. So we'll
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have our work it out for us. And I look
at it like every year is wow, we got to
start all over again. Because players don't always play the
best their best the next year. They might have a
contract on their mind, or they might have had now
they got two years in or one year in, and
now they think they know, and now they don't prepare
the same way, and they're as hungry. So I prepare
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for all of that.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
All right, Pat, final thing here, your character, your demeanor
did shine through this year. And I think Brewer fans
and really nationally because I see on a lot of
podcasts and national stuff too. But and it didn't seem
fabricated to me at all. And we've been talking for
many years and it's just having fun. I appreciate that
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it's different, and I think Brewer fans really get a
kick out of that. The whole pocket pancakes and you
know your a tire half the time and things like that.
I think you fit Wisconsin very well.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You really do.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
Pat, Oh, thank you for saying that. I appreciate it.
I'm not trying to not trying to fit. To be honest,
I'm not trying to be outrageous, and I'm not trying
to draw attention to myself. But you know, at my age,
you do what you do and some like it, some don't,
and that's really none of my business. My business is
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trying to help the Brewers. I'll be as good as
they possibly can.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
It's awesome, Pat, enjoy your off season. I know you
pressed on time, but thank you for doing this. We
appreciate it, and hopefully we get a chance to talk
again on the air.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Okay, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
All right, there he is Brewers manager Pat Murphy. You
can almost hear him decompress hunter.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Yeah for sure, for sure, and I would be if
that is a grind and we know some of it, obviously,
working every day of it. But it's different for the
guys that are in it trying to win games, as
he said, for the Milwaukee Brewers. And I really like
what he said there about the success and failure.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I think it's a really good way to put it.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
And as much as we want to say that World
Series and yes, that is what we all want, Pat
Murphy wants it, we want, everybody wants it. There is
only one out of thirty teams that do that does
that every year. So if you strictly say it's a
success or failure based on the championship, like you said,
profession sports just aren't that way. And this team is
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clearly building towards something and that is an exciting thing
to be a fan of.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
With our you know, Milwaukee station and some things in
flux here, this this is the type of guy Pat
Murphy is. I said, hey, dude, can you join us?
I know you're busy and you're traveling and all that.
He had said. You know, I explained to him the
situation with the station. He said, I have to based
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on that, I have to jump on with you. And
I appreciate that. And you played a clip here just
a short time ago about how he likes the media,
and you've been in there. Yeah, I think I think
that was a pleasant surprise for Murph once he got
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the gig, because let's face it, back in when I
met him and started chatting with him was right around
twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Sure, and nobody who interviews the bench coach. I mean,
it's very rare.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So Billy and I, Bill Schmid and I just kind
of attached ourselves to Murph because I don't know, he
just was a good conversation to have. But you knew,
you sort of knew at that point that you know,
he was he was going to be something special with
his conversations. But it's it's also once he got the
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helm a couple of years ago. I think it did
surprise him how the media didn't really battle him a lot.
You know, he he's gone at me many times. You
guys know that, and and we I mean just a
few minutes ago. I don't like the question. Okay, well
that's where Brewer fans are emotionally. Was it successful? Yeah,
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I guess, But but then there's the Dodgers, and I
think that's normal.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But I think he really enjoyed you guys in the media.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
He did, and I would think that you know, a
lot of maybe managers around baseball when he was first
getting into it last year, where you know, maybe it
had a bad rap, right, and he got to do
this twice a day. It's part of the you know,
part of the grind, et cetera. But he kind of
has taken a different approach to it where I think
it's more of his. I mean, he said this, and
I believe him, where it's kind of his just time
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to unwind and not be in such an intense environment
and more just talk talk through things. And there'll be
times where we're talking to him in his office and
he'll say something and be like, you know what, I
want to write that down.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
He'll write it down. Like I think it's almost like.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
A you know, obviously like therapy session is too probably
too far, but more so just it it kind of
helps him talk through things. I think he genuinely likes
that part of the day. Now every day does he
come in and say I cannot wait to talk to
the media. Maybe not, And maybe there are some days.
Obviously we all like parts of our jobs better than others.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
On some days.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
But I think as opposed to other managers maybe around
it does seem like he really genuinely does like it
and and from all accounts, he.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Does hard to be hungry when you're full. Yes, I
mean that's that's amrphism mm hmm. I mean he's had many,
many of those weased uphill, Yeah, under construction everything. Yeah,
I mean we appreciate Murph jumping on and I know,
could you imagine, you know, he takes time for us
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and he's literally just walking in his door from going
home for the season.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
Literally, I mean literally that's that's where we caught him,
was literally walking in the door.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean that's it's it's just genuine tim, It's
and it and I just and I I really uh,
you know, just throughout the season definitely, when you know,
after an office session with him or just I kind
of think about, I'm grateful to be able to cover
this guy because it's it's just a and I've learned
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so much about baseball.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And you saw the national national people jump aboard once
they detected who and what Murph was.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Oh, they were all.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Over it, all over it absolutely, and they've written some
great articles about him.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And everything like, yeah, he is guys before the break here,
he is a huge part of the.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Brewer's success right now. Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
He might be more of the part of the success
than Matt Arnold is.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
This is a day to day grind and this is
a I don't want to say manipulation, but this is
a molding of twenty six guys plus I mean double that,
more than double that in terms of personnel throughout a season,
keeping these guys on tasks that whole win tonight thing.
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And I do I think you could give him far
less talent and still get some success out of it.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I do. And so Matt.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Arnold, you got a little wiggle room because you have Murphy.
I mean, who'd have thought for some of these players
what they were doing. Now again, you attribute some of
the pitching success Chad Patrick and some of these other
guys to Hook and that pitching department. Sure, but overall,
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I do believe Murphy gets more out of his players,
gets more of the success pat on the back than
Matt Arnold's.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
That's interesting to think about.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
I would tend to say they're kind of neck and neck,
just because of.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Course you would.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
I just I yeah, just because they're so boy.
Speaker 8 (24:42):
What I mean, the the pieces, the kind of diamonds
in the rough that Arnold finds. But what I love
is they're in sync. I remember when Devin Williams was
traded and they got Caleb Durban back, and I asked
Matt Arnold, like, how much of okay, kind of the
profile that Pat Murphy works best with, how much does
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that take into account? He's like, absolutely, we take that
into account. Because Matt Arnold knows the type of team
that Pat Murphy works best with. They quickly established that
like that sometimes takes a while and takes years to know,
but they quickly Okay, they're on the same page. They
like a you know, running gun and NonStop you know,
just intense, kind of relentless team and guys that can
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are hungry and want to get things done. That was
Caleb Dermot and nutshell and boom, you solved your third
base position with a guy who didn't necessarily stick out
when they traded for him, but absolutely contributed to a
ninety seven win season. So they are just very much
in sync.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Matt Arnold grabs Blake Perkins a couple of years ago
to a major league deal.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
He's a minor league player. Sign him to do a
major league deal.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Matt Arnold grabs rule five Isaac Collins. Okay, now these
were these two players, these are just two examples. Is
that more credit for Matt Arnold for getting them or
is it credit for putting them in a position to succeed?
And that would be Murphy.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, so it's it's chicken or the egg. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
It's like Matt Arnold acquayers Andrew Vaughn, and Murph says, hey,
just don't don't chase, you chase, You're gonna sit exactly,
and then boom. He has a great rest of the
season with the Brewers.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
All right, Still more to come on that season ending
press conference from yesterday, More from Matt Arnold and Pat Murphy.
As we say goodbye to the twenty twenty five season
here on the game and the iHeartRadio app on it,
we're wrapping up the Brewers twenty five season here on
the Game in the iHeartRadio app there's Hunter Bomb, Guard
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Tim Allen, and h you know, I don't I can't
wait for the twenty twenty six championship season to get going.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I know where need in football.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I get it, basketball just firing up, But man, I'll
miss Brewers baseball this year.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
What a season. I mean, think about the.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And I'm not gonna bring up the mark out in
ostio comments and some people call that a lightning rod
or whatever, but I mean think about the journey and
that fun that was this season.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It was. It was a ton of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It just was all of it, you know, on a
nightly basis, seeing some of these stories take take, fold
and unfold, I should say, it was just really, this
is one of the seasons that you're gonna remember, even
though you know it didn't turn out the way we
all wanted. I look at it as look at the
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ninety two season, one of my favorite seasons. They've never
made the playoffs yet it's one of my favorite Brewer
seasons of all time. Obviously eighty two is up there,
two thousand and eight is up there, eleven eighteen.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And then this one eighty one.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You might want to throw that one in there as well.
But this is this has to be one of your
favorite seasons.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Right, Yeah? That was that was boy.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Yeah, you're as far as season long like for the
other ones, regardless.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Of outcome, your favorite season.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Right I, it might be. I think twenty eighteen and
this one are tied for me. I wasn't covering the
team in twenty eighteen, so that was obviously it's kind
of a different lens, different scope, but still like, just
as far as the way the season went, kind of
the overachieving so to speak, the unexpected and all the
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special moments, twenty twenty five might be top for me
right now.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, it's up there, but again you have to disclaim
it with regardless of exit.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh, for sure, regardless of how it turned out.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
But it's also this in twenty eighteen are tied for
as far as they went. You could say they went
closer because they got to game seven more games, a
couple more games, but overall it's the same round. So
it's they went this year. They went as far as
they've ever gone in my lifetime. So okay, yeah, you
know that that is that's going to be up there.
Obviously with twenty I guess twenty eleven too, they did
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the same thing. So now they've been there three times
at the CUSP.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Oh, they're gonna get in there Sunday, Timmy.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Regardless of outcome.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Ninety seven wins it's just it's just amazing now that
you look back at it and again, so what do
you do next? I mean, you go back at it
to the twenty six season. Yesterday in the season ending
press conference with Matt Arnold and Pat Murphy, Matt Arnold
first priority of the off season, when.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
The off season begins so abruptly, what is first on
your list for either of you? Of priorities, one of
them is probably coaches contracts. Those typically are end of
the month.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Is there any anything on that now?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Working through all those things, there's it's like you said,
there's not much of an off ramp. I've heard somebody
describe it as a car crash. I think that the
good teams, you know, don't have the luxury of having
an off ramp. And uh so, yeah, we're we're hitting
the ground running on all fronts.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
It's off season planning, it's it's contracts, it's it's everything
getting ready for the GM meetings coming up in a
couple of weeks. So we're all systems go. Have not
had a chance to come up for air, you know. Honestly,
I came home from l A spend all day on
the phone Sunday and then you know, in the office Monday,
so it's ready for the off season.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, there he is, Matt Arnold. That's a year round thing.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
And we'll get little tidbits here and there, you know,
a player acquisition, signing, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yeah, they just say Sammy Peralta the other day.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So again pitching, and you saw the depth get tested
here early in the season and late in the season.
And that's I think maybe one of those learning things
that I think for not only the organization, but for
Arnold and Murphy specifically and in particular they're pitching down
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the stretching into the postseason, into the postseason. How starters
just disappeared on you? Ooh, I don't know. I think
you'll see a different look next year into the postseason,
and I think you'll have starting pitchers. I get once
in a while if you want to throw away Miley
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out there as an opener, but you're going to need
starting pitching and to lean on the guys that got
you there. I think that's part of that learning process
year to year. We talked about that what maybe the
Brewers players learned about the Mets in last year's Wildcard Series.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So Murphy yesterday.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Went on to talk about preparing some of his players
a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
For next year.
Speaker 11 (32:15):
You talked about it when you were talking about coming
out of the NLCS just a few minutes ago. You
talked about it in Game five of the NLDS, just
how guys seemed drained by a lot of the stuff
that they had been through. After seeing that and kind
of seeing the performance in the NLCS, is there anything
that after that you take a step back and think
about ways that you could maybe better prepare guys, whether
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it's workloads, whether it's the mental side of it. Is
there anything that you come out of that experience looking
at and kind of drawing from in terms of just
setting guys up to hopefully be in that spot again
next year?
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah, I mean there's definitely definitely things of you know,
to take note of, you know, coming out that's immediately
what you know, that was the day that we lost
in Los Angeles. That was my first day of notes
postseason recommendations, like what are things that are are parent here? Now?
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Do we know for sure that if Contreras caught ten
less games we would have been better?
Speaker 11 (33:21):
Then?
Speaker 7 (33:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You know, but It speaks to the fact of how
big of a grind it is, especially when you play
like we play, meaning we have a bunch of guys
that are, for lack of a better term, overachievers, guys
that play above their physical talent. And is there something
about that that crushes them after a while? They play
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so hard, you know, a Durban or a terrag a
sal Is there something to that that we need to
protect them that they're a little bit fragile while they're young.
Do we need to schedule the off days differently? It's
not a guaranteed recipe there, you know what I mean?
It isn't just as easy as not a magic number.
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And people will look what the Dodgers did well, they
didn't do it by design. They did it by one.
They have incredible depth and to survive that and survive
all the injuries and they have, you know, a level
of talent that is in the top end guys that's
so incredible that they can have a dominant performance. And
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I don't think we had a brutal performance. We had
brutal results, but we didn't We didn't have guys trying
any less or it's just when you face pitching like that,
you're not gonna you know, nobody's surprised when a guy
goes from one level to the next and struggles offensively.
They're like, wow, he's facing a higher level. Those pitchers
and or at least three or four of them, that
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was a higher level than anybody had seen in the year,
you know what I mean, that was special stuff on
those particular nights. So I don't look at our performance
in that against the is like that brutal. We didn't
put our best foot forward. But yeah, I mean there's
all sorts of things to learn from it about how
do we get them playing consistent. One is, you don't
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play five games in the in the division series, so
you have a couple of days. So there's all sorts
of things that play into it, and there's no there's
no definite. You know. I got a lot of recommendations
from a lot of people, and I've got a nice
little corps of guys outside the organization that that do
it for a living, and it's kind of got their recommendations,
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and I just will try to shake it up and
garner as much as we can so we can be
in this position if we're lucky enough to be. It's
not easy to lead the major leagues and wins, so
credit to the players and the way they went after
it every day. I'd hate to lose that win tonight
mentality or show them any signs of not trying to
win tonight. I think that hurts your team more. And
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you could end up sitting at home because you're going
to arrest guys, you know, and you got a lot
of fuel left in the tank.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, is so.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You know, a couple of things here on that clip.
One would be, yeah, the offense did end brutally, Sorry
but it did. You can say it hit into a
little bad luck. I get it totally. You know, you
could say that the Dodgers hit a couple of balls
that hit into bad luck too. So we're a horse
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a piece there. But just from look at the numbers,
don't lie. I didn't make the numbers up. Fourteen hits
and four runs in four games. I didn't they made
those up. That's pretty brutal. I mean, I don't care
if it's the Brewers or any other team in baseball.
That's those are brutal numbers. Now, I agree with them
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that did they try less?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Were they you know? Was it max effort. Of course
it was. There's no question.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So you know, again that's maybe semantics it could be,
but yeah it did. Now on the learning, on the
learning side of things, I did like that answer that, Hey,
you know, we don't really know if Contreras would arrest
it or some guys would arrest it or but that
not losing this wind tonight mentality, that's music to my ears.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, that's important. Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 8 (37:20):
And that's the main basis of what Pat Murphy his
message is in that clubhouse. And you don't want to
lose the essence of what you're trying to be still
on your team when you had this much success in
the first two years.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
No question about it. That is one of the best philosophy.
And I would you know, into it hurts a Tuesday
night game against Pittsburgh that you lose in early June, Hey,
that's lost.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Man, that hurts.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I know you're going to lose some but the way
you lost that game that hurts. You know, things like that.
So I applaud that mission and that mission statement from Murph.
I hope he does not lose that win tonight mentality.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
We'll deal with it down the line. Well, right now,
we're gonna we're gonna do our job with.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Max effort on trying to win two nights baseball game.
All right, A lot to unpack here in the off season. So,
as I said, we're gonna get little tidbits here and there.
I'll do my best to keep you up to speed
on any information that comes out of the Brewers organizational camp.
But one would be Freddie Peralta, And and that is
(38:29):
really a priority at the top of a lot of
Brewer conversations, whether it be fans or I'm assuming the uh,
the organization as well. It may take a little stand
still here to let things settle down. But this Freddy
Peralta is is he going to go by way of
a Devin Williams? Is he gonna go by way of
(38:49):
a Corbyn Burns or a Willia Domas He has one
year left on his team control and that is a
team options. So they will exercise that officially. And what
do you do then? Do you hold on to him?
Do you do you Corbyn burns him with a year
(39:11):
left and then trade him in the off season get
a couple of minor leaguers. I would argue that I
would be curious as to see offers. Will never know
it what the Brewers offers would have been. Had Corbyn
Burns stayed with the organization to the halfway mark, maybe
you would have been offered way more than Joey Ortiz
(39:31):
and DL Hall. So how do they handle Freddy Peralta.
Here's Matt Arnold yesterday.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Yeah, I feel like that's been out there, and to
be honest, it's it's it's not at the front of
my mind, honestly, it's something where you know, of course,
you know, you can never shut the door on anything
in our In our situation, of course, we've had to
make very tough decisions, and I think that's part of
what we have to do, is make tough decisions to
help the long term view of the franchise. But I
(39:57):
can tell you that Freddie means more to that clubhouse
and than most that I've ever been around. And you know,
he's a special player on and off the field, and
I'm proud to have him as as a teammaker.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
And a remarkable season for Freddie Peralta. Let's not discount
what he did this year. Hey, Hey, let's let's go
to the bargaining table. See see where the threshold is
on an extension.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The only.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Thing that you have in your arsenal is this one
year at only what eight million?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (40:31):
I think just over eight Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
You do have that as a little bit of leverage
because that can go up. So he makes money there?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Who knows? All Right? One one clip I want to
get to on the other side.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Here is how Pat Murphy viewed shohe Otani's performance.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I think I might be with him to a degree
as to how he answered that. So we'll do that next.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Wrapping up what was the Brewers twenty five season. Here
on the game in the iHeartRadio app, there's a hunch
of bomb guard Tim Allen talking Bruis Baseball. Urphy view
the Otani historic sort of game. We'll give this a listen.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 12 (41:16):
I don't look at that as anything.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I spend any time on that, Like, I don't. I don't.
I don't like to lose, no matter what game it is,
tend nothing to you know, one nothing to no hitter
to one hitter, you know, like it's just like it
is what it is.
Speaker 12 (41:32):
Let everybody else enjoy the historic moment. I didn't enjoy
it that much. But I knew what I was part of.
It was like a twelve year.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Old little league you know what I mean.
Speaker 10 (41:45):
It looked like the big twelve.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Year old in a local little league game and he
hits three homers and punches out everybody. It didn't feel
that good. But yeah, I don't categorize that as oh
my god, you know, that's against us.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I am so with him on that. I am, and
I've already reacted to it. I don't care. In fact,
it's only rubbing it in my face that that we
have to see the highlights of that against the Brewers
backdrop uniform.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
I know, with b A on the call and with
b I didn't even think of that. Yeah, but he
was I mean, he was awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah he was fair about it. But yeah, I'm I'm
with Murphy on that. Okay, Well, that's going to wrap
up today's show. Be on the lookout here on the
Facebook page Post Gamers with Tim Allen. I'll keep you
up to speed as to when we can talk Brewers
baseball again. Uh and uh here on the game and
and the iHeartRadio app. There'll be some uh you know,
(42:48):
jump in shows here down the line. Here, Hunter, can
you maybe take a few days off and I'll jump
in for YouTube.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
Absolutely, we are going anytime, any anywhere. We are going
to try to get you on the air and looking
forward to it as we wind down twenty twenty five
as a whole the baseball season over. But are you
Are you gonna pay attention to the World Series?
Speaker 10 (43:10):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I don't think so tonight. I just I can't do
it tonight.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I'll let the series get into it a little breathe
a little bit. I just don't want I'll obviously read
about it in the morning, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Go Blue Jays in agreement there.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yes go Blue Jays, Yes, indeed. All right, Well that's
gonna do it for us.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
You guys, have a great weekend, and be on the
lookout for lots of Packers coverage here on the game.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
In the iHeartRadio app for Auntra.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Bombguard, this is Tim Allen saying smile Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Bob Buker is smiling back.
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