October 15, 2025 • 43 mins
Tim Allen & Hunter Baumgardt talk Brewers as they are down 2-0 in the NLCS to do the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, welcome in. I want to play baseball tonight and
get a victory. Unfortunately, the schedule says the Brewers are
not playing tonight, but they'll be indeed in play tomorrow,
Game three of the NLCS. Here in the twenty twenty
five Championship season. What's going on? Guys? Tim Allen punched
in ready to go? Another special addition to playoff push,
(00:21):
there's Hunter Bombguard and we're talking Brewers Baseball here on
the game and the iHeartRadio app. If you guys want
to join the show. Oh. Questions, oh plenty from Brewers
fans Hunter on the nicolay law dot com talking text
line eight seven seven seven nine four one ninety seven
to three. As the Brewers in a hole, I mean,
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it's it's well documented. We're we're all in the agreement
that things don't look great. However, I truly believe this
with a victory tomorrow, that the pressure goes back to
the Dodgers. And it's it's very similar to the NLDS
where the roles are reversed a little bit. When the
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Brewers were up to zip and then the Cubs win
a game. Uh oh, Brewers are saying we don't need
this thing tied to two too, because then it's an
elimination game. Although this won't be an elimination game, it
would be an opportunity for the Brewers to get it
back to two to two. But that pressure into game
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four needs to be set in game three here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it really does. I mean this is a yeah,
it's it feels about as must win as it gets
when it comes to and I know people were talking
about last night as must win as it gets and
maybe you look back and say, yeah, maybe it was.
But where you are now down two oh, going to LA?
Do you have you know, home field advantage of it?
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You know anymore?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But you take two out of three in LA, and
you got a chance at least coming back to molt
to force a game seven and you you did that.
You forced game seven and twenty eighteen against the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's tough customers on the mound again, but out by out,
inning by inning, and it starts tomorrow night at five.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Ye yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you just got to
start digging out. And you want to limit at this point,
you want to limit the opportunities of a clinch game
for the Dodgers. So you just limit those and if
you fall in uh, you say, win two out of three.
But if you lose this first one in LA, they
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get two cracks at home in elimination situation, and that's
that's you know, you can you can limit that to
one with a victory here in game three, right, because
they can't clinch up only two to one. Okay, say
they win game four, they only get one crack in
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LA to get that you know, final out and head
to the World Series. I'm talking about the Dodgers perspective here,
but from the Brewers' perspective, just limit the opportunities. If
you lose tomorrow, Hunter, they get two cracks at a
close out. Yeah, and you want to limit that to
one in LA, just one of those, and you can
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do that by winning just one of the next two.
You limit it to just one crack at it. Well, actually,
you'd have to win tomorrow to limit it to one
crack at it in LA, and that that is you know,
I'm not sure must win as the scenario here, but
pretty damn close. It really is.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
As close as you can get without it being But
I like how you kind of arrowed that down a
little bit. I think you made me feel better here
in the first couple of minutes of the show with
saying that, yeah, you just win tomorrow and then the
Doctors only have one chance to clinch and that's if
they win both of their last games there, and that's right,
So who knows. I mean, it just it's it's it's
I know one of your favorite sayings him is it's
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just baseball.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But it is at.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Times, and sometimes, you know, you may have glass now
on the mound and the Dodgers have been dominant on
the mound so far and everything like that, but come tomorrow,
maybe it's a little different, and the Brewers hop out
to an early lead. The crowd maybe isn't as packed
as it should be, you know, at three zero eight
local time, when that first pitch is thrown in La tomorrow,
and maybe you take advantage of that.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
To reminisce about the season that is not was is
this is still the twenty twenty five championship season. I
think it. You know, occasionally we have to look at
it as glass half full at times and just say, hey,
there's plenty of teams that would love to be in
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the situation. The Brewers are in right now, meaning still
in play. You're still playing baseball here? What the hell
is the day today? October what sixteenth? Fifteenth fifteenth? It's
October fifteenth, and the Brewers are still playing baseball. The weather,
it's almost like mother nature is cooperating to Mother nature
does not want to to separate the summer weather because
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the Brewers are still going on. It just it just
makes sense that, you know, we're not blustery in the
lower forties with some sleep going on, and it's it
just it seems as if there's something here that these
guys aren't going to give up or give in. And
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and we've we've well a lot of people have counted
them out time and time again this year. But to
look look back as to what has occurred this summer
here in twenty five, I mean, they had the best
record in baseball that probably plays the top of the
list in terms of these special things that have occurred
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during a special season. But these winning streaks, gosh darn it,
we were we were going crazy earlier this summer. What
a great, great year of baseball thus far? Now is
it getting a little dicey, as you would say, little testy?
Of course it is. You know you're gonna have to
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step up, but you know, the lack of trades at
the deadline, or the acquisition of Andrew Vaughan, or the
summer of sal for a while there. I mean, all
of these stories, Yuker magic and celebration of life. A
fourteen game winning streak, set a franchise record, an eleven
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game winning streak, an eight game winning streak almost counted
out countless times throughout the season, torpedo bats, you know,
doing some heavy duty damage, all the different injuries that
have occurred. I could continue on and on. I don't
want to make this a baseball eulogy, however, but I
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do want to just make sure that glass is half
full in that the Brewers are still in play, and
one single victory wouldn't make a huge difference in not
only the perspective for the Brewers and it's fan base us,
but it also would change the perspective of the Dodgers.
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And they may say, nah, we're still in the catbird seat,
We're in the driver's seat. We got this thing. It's again,
assuming a victory tomorrow, the pressure is back on them
and this season continues. All these special stories, the special
season can continue with a victory. You again, is it
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do or die? No, not yet, but you need to
pour it all out there only because the ramifications of
Game four come into play here, and that's Dodger pressure.
Uh oh, I want them to say, uh oh, we
better step up here. From the Dodgers perspective, we better
step up here. Well, these guys are going to tie
the damn thing at two to two. Now, maybe they
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play a little tight, maybe the Brewers get a little energy,
and quite frankly, you know, was talking with Doug Russell
and Dave gasper to day earlier, Hunter, and there's two
ways to look at what happened after in between these
two playoff series, in between nlds and NLCS. There's two
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ways you could look at it. One would be it
was such a huge victory and these guys are spent
type of thing, sure the fatigue as set in they
were at one hundred and sixty seven games in the
regular season in playoffs to that point last Saturday. Or
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you could look at it as and this is the
way I choose to look at it, that it was
this relief that the Cubs didn't do it to you
and it happened so quick, with one day off, you
didn't have enough time to ratchet back up and meet
that energy level. That's the way I'm looking at it,
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that it was more of a relief who counsel didn't
do it? To us? And I will admit I fell
victim to that sort of sentiment a little bit. I did. Now.
I didn't say, hey, now that you beat the Cubs,
doesn't matter what happened with the Dodgers, But I was
sort of, wow, they didn't do it, Thank goodness, you know,
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you breathe and with a disregard, hunter to hey, wait
a minute here, you guys got the Dodgers knocking on
your door here in twenty four to forty eight hours,
you better get back up the energy level. That's where
I fell in. Maybe that's where the team sentiment came in.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, they were playing like the Arizona Diamondbacks or you
know a different team, even you know, a team like
the Reds in that first round. I think it's even
the I think you'd be you know, the focus would
have switched faster to the Dodgers for us. Now I
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go to I want to speak for the team, but
for us, and I think Pat Murphy called that an
emotional series multiple times. Yes, so there is something to that,
and there is something to how that team felt, you know,
the the just you know, the elation that was that
I saw in that clubhouse and outside of it and
on the field and going through all the celebration on
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Saturday night. And I think for us as well, I
mean to me, yes, absolutely, I definitely felt where it's like, Okay,
they got over the hump. They won a playoff series,
they eliminated Council in the Cups, one of the biggest
wins in franchise history. Not only thank goodness, but well done,
and just to congratulations to them and basket it a
little bit. And then oh, oh wait, first pitch of
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the Nlcsy Brewers are in the NLCS right now, Like
it's kind of it was kind of like that. And
then also, I think when you talk about rest, and
I said this a little bit on Drew and KB today,
the Dodgers are in a similar spot to where the
Bucks were a couple of years ago, where regular season
really doesn't matter. The Dodgers have won twelve the last
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thirteen n L West titles. They are playing for October.
Their regular season, the games that the Brewers went six
and zero against them meant way more to the Brewers
than it did for the Dodgers. You could see it
with how they handled injuries throughout the year and and
now they have everybody full go in October.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Imagine that it's October and everyone seems to be feeling fine.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And now that exactly and that's it, right where the
Brewers had to fight in claw for every single win,
and they absolutely did, and they got to ninety seven
and the franchise record and won the division and everything
like that, but they had to fight in claw because
of the roster and because and you can get into
salary cap and all that. Like you said, we'll get
into all that after this series, because it's no use
doing it now. But that I think that seriously has
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a factor. The guys kind of to me, and I
don't know this for a fact, but they kind of
looked a little out of gas last night and in
this series so far against these two pictures. Now, these
two pitchers have been great, but there's a little bit
of to that. So in overall, I do really think
that there is something to the Dodgers not having to
have that necessarily that win, tight attitude throughout the year
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and now having you know, basically a full complement of
stars heading into October.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, and the experience there for the La Dodgers that
plays a part. Forget about the money, just the experience.
As you said, they've they've won twelve of the last
thirteen division titles. A guy like keyk Hernandez, he's played
in what is it ninety five now, I think so,
I think ninety five postseason games. I mean think about that. Yell,
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he's hive and yell, he's played in twenty five, But
ninety five postseason games for a Key k Hernandez, I
mean that, Well, that's going to help you. Yeah, it is,
and it absolutely is without question. But the underdog are
the Brewers. And Dodgers can scream all day long about
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how they're not buying that, but that's the reality of it.
I mean, let's face it now again, the Brewers win.
It's a baseball game. Yeah, as Yelly says, anything can happen,
and anything it's just baseball, or it is baseball, that's
just baseball. That's a baseball game tomorrow night, and the
Brewers it's not going to surprise me. I'm not predicting
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a victory, but it's not going to surprise me if
they come up with the win and just force the
issue a little bit. They've been doing it the entire
year now. A little bit of that is heart. There's
no doubt those of you that have known me for
a while and just you know, a huge Brewers fan.
Some would say fanatic, but I just think that they're
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fully capable, only because anytime we've them and maybe not
counted them out, but at least one doubt creeps in.
That's when they say, uh huh, don't do that, don't
do that. We're better than that. I was listening to
Jed Hoyer today, Hunter, I don't know if you caught
some of those comments. Was the end of the year
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press conference for the Chicago Cubs. Oh it's a blast,
it's beautiful, or yeah, just Hoyer I heard, so I
don't I'm a council might have spoken, but yeah, see
if he did. But Hoyer was asked a couple of
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different questions that involved the Brewers, and one was a
vein in which we've talked about that it is another
year that goes by where the Brewers have the upper hand,
and Hoyer just said, well, that's I mean, they're a
great organization. He spoke favora of the Brewers, but he
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had said that, I mean, it starts with our division,
and it starts with ninety win seasons. So when he
was asked about what is the identity of the Chicago Cubs,
he kind of couldn't answer it. First thing he said
was defense. Wait what You're the third largest city, third
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fourth largest city in America. You're the iconic label of
the Chicago Cubs and you can sit there and say
your focus is on defense. That sounds like a small
market team to me. But he couldn't hunter. The point
is he could not identify, identify the personality of what
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they're trying to do. What's their identity? He really couldn't
answer it. It was a beautiful piece of audio. I
loved it, and you know, maybe we'll grab it and
throughout the off season or maybe late in this run,
have that for you. But I thought it was interesting that,
you know, ninety win years, ninety win seasons. I mean,
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how many times have the Brewers been doing that here
in this run? That's just expected these days, and when
you are a ninety win team. I don't care if
you're going up the big up against the big goliath.
I don't care. A ninety seven win team, a ninety
five win team, a ninety six win team is fully capable.
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They are now are they in a hole first? Or
but they're fully capable. I don't Again, I've been reading
social media. There are a lot of diehards here and
a lot of people are trying to stay positive. But
I think there's more so that the dun Club people
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are looking through their wallets and weigh in the back
of the walls. They little card there, they're Dune Club
card and they're pulling that out. The days hang in there.
Just wait, just hold off just a little bit. That's
that's what I would recommend.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, don't also be done on Yelich either. I know
he's getting a lot of hate or not a lot
of hate, but a lot of you know, criticism, And
I get it. I hope for his last seventeen it's
not a good time to go in a rough patch,
as he told us last night. But just oh, you
never know, because that guy and people are like, you know,
you bench him, No, no, you came in the lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You see what he can do.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I don't even think he moved him down. He's you're
either gonna win with yell Ach or you're not, Like
that's that's the you know, he's one of your best players.
So you're either gonna win because of him or maybe
you might lose because of it. But either way, you're
gonna go up or go down with Christian Yelich. So
I think I'm looking forward to seeing if he can
finish this series strong and maybe that's the reason why
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the Brewers get back into this thing.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, more on Christian yelis with our friend Jack Stern,
Brewer fanatic as we'll talk to him and just a
few minutes, so stick around for that. But if you
guys want to jump in here talk a little Brewers baseball,
you're sitting there in Madison or in the north Land,
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Hang on, hang in, don't give up. I mean, that's
the only way I can think about it. You got
a ballgame tomorrow, and there are what twenty six other
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teams yep that would love to deplete be playing in
a two to zero hole in LA in Dodger Stadium tomorrow. Yeah,
the Cups, probably Wood, Cubs would love to be in
this situation. The Cardinals probably Wood. They would love to
be in this situation. Would Oh yeah, David start just
they just completely revamped a couple of key coaching staff members.
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They're still struggling too. And look at our Oh, these
little low Brewers here, these little average shows. They're in
LA market, number two in America against the goliath, and
they're still in play here in the twenty twenty five
championship season. We'll take a break. Thanks to Drew and
KB for stepping aside allowing us to get some Brewers
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baseball conversation, taking advantage of the moment here on the
Game and the iHeartRadio app. Welcome back, another additional playoff
push here on the Game and the iHeartRadio app. Some
programming notes here for those that are following along with
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outside the Milwaukee market you may not have been familiar
with the postgame show. My name's Tim. Nice to meet you.
We've been doing it twenty years in the Milwaukee market
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Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yes, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter on the game. So if
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tomorrow night after the game and everything.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Stays the same.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You still get to call, you still get to text,
still hear Pipe, you'll hear Timmy. I'll be in yours
as well, So we'll still have the same postgame show.
It'll just be getting to you a different way tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, just for tomorrow night. And there the longer the
Brewers extend here, we're gonna find a way. We're gonna
find a platform to deliver on the postgame show. Whether
I got to you know, give y'all, all of you
guys a bunch of string and a bunch of tin
cans and I'll just sit on my porch. I'm gonna
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we're gonna find a way to get you the postgame
show through this what is really a special season thus far.
And I know it looks a little bleak, and I
know what the numbers say, down oh two. It's very rare,
but it's very rare that an organization like this is
doing what they're doing. That's the rarity. Also, I mean,
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don't count them out. If you want to join us
here today. Jack Stern is coming up Brewer Fanatic whyt
to get into that Christian Yelich conversation with him in
just a couple of minutes, So stick around for that.
But on the text line, you can hit us up
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Yes's out Hunter.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, so let's go through a couple of texts here.
Let's see John and Rhinlander. I'm not done until it's done.
Call me super optimistic, but I think we can win
all three, come home and finish the job.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Could you imagine what a party?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You know, throughout the especially the second half and probably
more so isolated on the second half of the season,
I've been using comments that I expect this team in
the World Series, and I'm not going to budge from that.
I expect this team in the World Series. Now is
a looking bleak, Yes it is, But I'm not going
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to change from that because, and here's the philosophy. What
would a Cardon fan think if they had ninety seven wins?
What would a cub fan think if they had ninety
seven wins? What would any team's fan base think? With
ninety seven wins the most in Major League Baseball this year,
It's not that far fetch for me to say I
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expect them in the World Series. It's really not that
out of line to say that. Well, I know the
backlash on that was Tim. You know, it's the Brewers.
They'll find a way to not get there. No, I'm
not looking at it that way. I'm looking at it
from a baseball standpoint. You ran away with your division,
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you ran away with the one seed and the best
record in baseball. You got out of that first round.
Then you get into the NLDS, you win that. Why
would I change now because of two losses? By the way,
this team has been known to win a few games
here and there right in a row. Oh, I don't know,
eleven game winning streak. You remember that fourteen game winning streak,
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eight game winning streak. I'm not going to budge from that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, every time I feel like we've went we've
said the saying wouldn't that be wild? Or wouldn't that
be awesome? I feel like it's happened this season, and
and you know, you talk about wouldn't that be amazing?
If you beat the Cubs in the playoffs? Birds did
that and they blew them out twice and then they
won a game five against them, and a winning streak
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like that, wouldn't it be awesome? If you go on
a big winning streak, or win the division, or get
to ninety seven wins or all of that.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
It's all happened this year.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's it's felt this special, special season that we've been
a part of. So to say they go out and
do that isn't too far fetched. However, you also know
the talent on the other side, and you have to
obviously be realistic about that. But I of all the years,
this is the one. I'm not I'm not going to
count them out by any means. Yeah, yeah, this is
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the one, and and there'll be more. And that's that's
the thing. And again I'm not making this a baseball
eulogy here, but the future is bright. I mean, you
take a look at just some of the minor leaguers
that have not hit the bigs yet. With one of,
if not the best farm system in all of baseball,
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you still have stars coming and not that far away.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Really, I mean, it is a revolving door here of
team control. It's a team control. It's just this cycle
that this team is take for example, next year. Okay, fine,
I'll start with the liability. The liability might be the
starting rotation. But what has this organization done with starting pitchers.
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They've been gurus at it, they've been phenomenal at it. Okay,
but it'll be a young starting rotation. That's about the
worst I can say. The most critical thing I can
say moving forward the next few years Misarowski, Quinn Priester,
Robert Gasser. I mean, I would assume that Woody Freddy
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and King Tana are gone, and then we can get
into that assumption in the off season. But yeah, young
starting rotation. Okay, set that aside. That is something that
needs work. Look at the position player group. My goodness,
it's not going anywhere right. None of these guys are
exiting unless there's some sort of major trade, which I doubt.
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Once you have team control on star players like Contreras
and Churio and Terrag and Freelich and Vaughn and Durbin
and Joey Ortiz, we could talk about, but most of
these guys are under team control. It's not going to
change anything.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well it goes yeah, and well it goes back to
the discussion we had when they were in Chicago about
how many of these guys are playing in their first
road playoff game ever, ever, ever, And it's like you
go around the diamond and Churio yes, and Freelick yes,
and durban yes, and Ortiz yes, and traying yes, and
Vaughn yes. And it's like you go around the diamond
and six to seven of your nine in the lineup
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are are out there for the first time in a
road playoff game, and you think about what they've done
this year with that inexperience and how much this experience
can help. And I, like you said, we're focusing still
on this year and there's so much work to be
done and that can be done.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's setting you.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It's just it's you love what has happened this season
and how it can set you up.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
For the future. And it is set up. And Pat
Murphy a manager that really has his finger on the
pulse of leadership. Hey, he just does. Now he is
He's sneaky and sly like a fox at time. At
times he is there's no question he knows what he's
doing here, and he loves it, and he keeps it
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loose and he loves it that way and keep the
attention off him. He does like the attention a little bit.
He is an entertainer in that regard. Pocket pancakes and
all of the We could list a million things. We'll
get into that maybe with Jack Stern and you Hunter,
because you guys have been, you know, at a lot
of these most all of the the press briefings from
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from Pat Murphy. But two time Manager of the Year,
he doesn't get that there ought to be a revolt.
Come on, there's just no way they can do that
to this cat. I mean so, but yeah, the future
looks bright. However, you take into this game tomorrow. You
talked about road playoff games. The environment I don't think
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is going to be as as bad as Chicago.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
That was something to be whole and and it really was.
And even I was like, whoa, they are crazy down there. Wow,
you guys. Rabid was I think the word that was
tossed around. But and and la, you know, on a
night game, the Friday night game, I think is going
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to be the mad house. Tomorrow it still will be
a mad house. And they tend to play their said
can sound effects super super loud. They're an engaged fan base,
they are it's going to be a loud environment even
tomorrow's game. But I think you take what you you learned,
and that's why that's why Murph harped on the environment
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so much. I think that was in preparation to get
into la and to calm a little bit. Hey, stay
stay in the fight, grind a little bit, stay in there.
I mean he Pat Murphy was talking about the Brewer
fans more so in the last month than I've heard
any other manager ever talk about his fan base. Yeah,
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me too. You're right.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
He really consistently made it a point to point him out.
And it's and it's awesome and I and look, there's
a couple of more texts here before we get to Jack.
On the other side, Jason from Kenosha saying, I got
to tell you, I was so bummed last night and
all day today, but tuning into you guys has made
me get my mojo back.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Go. There we go. Nice, I like it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Brandon the four and four looking forward to year twenty
one of the postgame show wherever it is, but not yet,
not yet.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yes, and again glass half full. We still have at
least two more postgame shows left. Yes we do. I
mean that's the way I'm looking at it. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Luke from Usberg says crewe in six for the culture,
making reference to the Bucks and six.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
There we go. Uh huh, there you go, Luke in
the nine to two. Oho.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
There.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Mike from Merrill says, Christian is putting so much pressure
on himself, needs a change and it might rejuvenate himself.
He goes back to he says, let's see. I know
at times I can be critical of Christian because I
don't feel he is a fit in Milwaukee any longer
because of not being able to play be a competitive
everyday solution left field. But this on a serious note,
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I do think that it would be better, sir, for
him to drop to number nine in the order for
protection for Jackson. Move Joey to eight, then have Christian
do anything crowd to plate, bunt, whatever, just to get
on and then being then go back to being a
force on the base paths with stealing speed et cent
to remove Bauers to the cleanup spot.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So yeah, that's interesting, No, it is, and I think
that's those are valid statements, valid ideas I do, Mike. However,
there's two two ways to look at it, real quick
before the break. There's two ways to look at Either
go back to the lineups. You had success with games one, two,
and five, and the NLDS you won all three of
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those games at the identical starting lineup, or you put
sal or Bryce back up top, and you go Cherio
after that, then yell it's three, then go back to
Wright Contreras four, and then you go from there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean all season. I mean, my favorite lineup
is free look at the top. That's just been my
favorite lineup all season.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So yeah, maybe we'll get there. All right, Jack Stir
and Brewer Fanatic, we'll join us next here. We're talking
Brewers Baseball Special Edition here on the Brewers off day
in between games two and three NLCS, and just just
process it a little bit. Brewer season is still going.
They're in the NLCS against the Dodgers. Yeah, they're down two.
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Oh did I say that? No, we don't want to
say that they're in the NLCS and they're in the NLCS. Yes,
all right. We'll talk to Jack Stern on the other
side about the aforementioned Christian Yelich here on the game
playoff push and also the iHeartRadio app Baseball, and that's
something I like to do a little bit. I hope
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you're enjoying this and the special season, the twenty five
championship season. Brewers alive and well. Down two oh, but
alive and well and welcome back thanks to Drew and
KB stepping aside and allowing us to get some Brewers
conversation in here on the Brewers off day between games
two and three, as the travel day is today as
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they say, and back in action tomorrow, uh and the
Brewers much much needed victory that would be huge. More
on Christian Yelich here with Jack Stern of Brewer Fanatic
in just a second here, and I'll set it up
this way. There's been twenty five games for Christian Yellis
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in the postseason, hitting under two thirty with three rb
eyes that includes two home runs. It's twenty five games
with two home runs. Granted, pitching a little bit better,
well sometimes a lot better in the postseason. You're playing
the best teams and the best teams for a reason,
and it's pitching. However, two homers, three RBIs and twenty
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five games. Wow, some of that was due to what
he had been going through. He went through a year
and a half there where it was just quite frankly ugly.
Let's bring him in, Jack Stern, Brewer Fanatic. He's been
covering the crew like a blanket here, Jack, thanks for
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the time here. Let's get into Christian Yelich. Here over
his last seventeen Now, you tell me if this makes
sense to you in witnessing and analyzing Christian Yelich's career
here in Milwaukee, the one concerning thing right now for
me is the eye test. I know that sounds weird
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coming from me, but it is when he is rolling bad,
you see some consistencies, and that is soft contact to
the right side. It's not even getting a barrel on it.
It's just when you say rollover, it's top over. It's
roll over. It's also strikeouts and looking lost. And then
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the third thing I would say, it's just real duffers
in front of the picture when he was rolling bad
a few years ago. Jack, that's what he was doing.
That's the biggest concern for me right here right now
on his oh for seventeen skid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think the one thing that I always come back
to with Jelich is it's kind of funny to me
because I remember back in the days when you know,
he was putting up the MVP numbers and all this stuff,
and then you have whenever guy's producing, you have all
the people who are online or some of the people
you talk to in real life. They say, man, I
want to try to get like my kid doing the
stuff that he's doing, try to emulate his swing, and
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you got all these people trying to break down his swing.
I actually think that he's got a swing that would
not work for a lot of people. Like if you
watch his swing, yeah, there's a lot of moving parts
in there. There's all kinds of stuff that's not really
what you would traditionally teach guys. Now, it works for
him really well when it's going right, but I think
what we've seen in his time in Milwaukee is it's
so timing dependent, and he's a guy who because of
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his mechanics and the way his swing works, I think
when the timing is off, it looks really really ugly.
And that's when you see it's like the rollovers because
he's out in front, or you see the swings and
misses because he's laid on pitches, or he gets caught
in between, like he's late on the fastball, early on
the breaking stuff and rolling that over. It just I
think you're right on a lot of this. When he's
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not going well, especially the last few years, it gets
really bad. Like look at what he did at the
beginning of the season, when he was really really cold
and then he got really really hot for three months.
I think that's just kind of who he is. I
think it's a product of his swing and kind of
the way his body works, especially as he's starting to
get a little bit older too. Now I think that
stuff that you kind of got to start looking at
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it and thinking about. But for me, so much of
it comes back to there's a lot of moving parts,
and timing is huge for any hitter. But I think
with how he's wired, the timing when it's on versus
when it's off, it creates this bigger gap between what
the good yewich looks like and what the bad yellows
looks like.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And I mean, what's the answer here. You just just
roll the dice and you say, hey man, you gotta
get it. And he he obviously admitted it last night.
You know, he's got to do better. But these are
tough pitchers. This is a tough way to get out
of a slump when you're facing some of the some
of the pitching that you face in an any NLCS.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, and it's look, it gets tricky when you get
into the playoffs, right, Like you said, you're facing all
the tough pitchers. It's a small sample. You need results
right now, Like you don't necessarily have time to wait
for guys to figure things out. But at the same time,
like if you're going to go down in a playoff series,
you've got to go down with your best guys. And
you know, even if Yellow's just struggling, like Bryce Terrain
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kind of falls into this too, he hasn't looked very
good in the playoffs, But you got to go down
with your best guys. And I think you've got to
give your best guys the opportunity to make something happen
and have a good impact on these games. And then
if they don't do that then kind of like what
Yelwich has acknowledged, like the responsibility does fall on them.
Then if they got the opportunity and they didn't produce,
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which unfortunately that's what's happening right now. But I think
you really don't have much choice other than, hey, you're
our guy. You've been one of our best hitters for
years now. We're gonna give you the opportunity. It's on
you to do something with it.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, And I'm not Jack, I'm not gonna pin all
the all of this on Yellis, the numbers are somewhat
disturbing here in the postseason, runs run scored is the
biggest of wits, and that's a team thing. I mean,
that's that is you're looking back at. They've lost four
of their last five playoff games here this year. They
should be lucky. They're even In a lot of teams,
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you lose four or five in the postseason, you're long gone.
They're still alive here. But is there I'm one that
I like lineups, and I think lineups make a difference.
But at this point, I'm going to back off that
stance just a bit, solely because you're gonna have to
have these guys hit period. Wherever they're at in the order.
(38:53):
I don't think there's one sink. Now. I would try
games one, two, and five. I would try that exact
order tomorrow night, just because because you go back to
what you've won with. But I'm going to back off
that stance just a little bit. This all comes down
to these individuals doing better at the plate. It's as
simple as that you mentioned, Tarang. I think there's room
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to breathe for Vaughn for free, like for Joey Ortiz
getting come up with a hit once in a while,
William Cancereras, can you stop swinging at the first pitch,
maybe get a look at this guy, etc. It's got
to be a team thing. I don't think a lineup
is gonna make the biggest of difference.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, I think you're right on that, And you know,
we can have the larger discussion about lineups. I personally
don't think it matters a whole lot. But again, that's
kind of beside the point. Right now. These guys got
to hit no matter what situation they're placed in. And
it just seems to me, like, especially against these Dodgers starters,
whatever they're looking for, and it seems like they've been
looking for fastballs, or they think that they've been seeing
(39:54):
fastballs out of the hand these last two nights. That's
not what they're getting, man Like. They're getting a lot
of change ups, a lot of break king balls, and
they're swinging at them like they're fastballs. And they got
to figure that out. They got to adjust something here
because what they're doing right now isn't cutting it. And again,
if your approach isn't good enough, or if you haven't
approached and the pitcher's countering it and you're just not
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able to find a way to adjust. You know that
that has nothing to do with the lineup. The lineup's
not going to impact that at all. The batting order
is not going to impact that at all, as long
as that underlying issue continues. And I think right now
that just kind of needs to be what the Brewers
focus on. And obviously it's the easier said than done.
I think these two Dodger starters have thrown the ball
(40:34):
really well. But at the same time, you know, if
you're the Brewers, your the urgency is cooking right now,
like that should be feeling some key here, and they
got to figure something out, and they got to find
a way to now get to a couple more starters
they're going to face. We're also very good pitchers, Like
beating good pitchers in the playoffs is what you have
to do, or you have to be able to do
enough against them and hope that your pitching staff folds
(40:56):
serve And I think for the most part, especially in
these two games, the Brewer's pitching in their run prevention
has been fine, but you know, they got to figure
something out. They got to figure something out offensively.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I agree, Jack, and I love when Murph went through
your wardrobe the other day. So that was that was fun.
That was really cool. You got to be having a blast.
Well listen, we're out of time. We got to talk again,
all right, thanks, thanks for a couple of minutes here.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, you got it man.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
All right there he is Jack Stern Brewer fanatic. Yeah,
you guys in the presspool are wildly entertained by Murph.
I love it that. That Dude's great.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Did you hear about Dave gasper our own getting the wardrobe?
I did not, Yes, yesterday he did the whole Dave
stood up, twirled around.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It was like in the hole.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I'm telling you, there's probably forty reporters in there from
all over the country, from Bob Nightingale to Jesse Rodgers
to you know, all these people have covered the game
for a really long time. And then you know the
Dave had has had a shirt and tie on, and hey,
why don't you stand up and let's see you know
all those are good pants and the whole deal. So yeah,
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it's before a playoff game, before an NLCS.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Game, you know, trying to keep it loose. That's Smurph.
There's a one of a kind with Pat Murphy. It
seriously is okay? So what do we got cooking? Here?
More Bruce conversation right here tomorrow morning. I'll be joining
Bill Schmid for the morning show tomorrow here on the
Game Network and the iHeartRadio app. Let's see. After that,
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we have another special edition of Playoff Push tomorrow right here,
same time or same same platform at two, is that right, hunter? Yep,
two to three, two to three tomorrow, and the postgame
show a little bit different. We're going to be streaming
that on the socials. The audio will be there for
(42:52):
you on the Games Twitter, Facebook and YouTube accounts. So
that's postgame tomorrow. We'll be able to take your calls,
take your text, the whole deal. But watch for the
Brewers or i should say the postgamers Facebook page. Brewer
Postgamers with Tim Allen, we'll give you all the details.
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Is where you can hear the show moving forward. But yeah,
Brewers in the heat of battle and cross your fingers,
they're not done yet, all right. Thanks to Drew and
KB for moving aside here and allowing us to talk
and Brewers baseball here the twenty twenty five championship season
rolls on. I'm not giving up. I'm not giving in.
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One win puts the pressure back on LA, so let's
cross our fingers for that tomorrow for a Hunter bombguard
thanks to Jack Stern Brewers fanatic. My name is Tim Allen.
Enjoy the rest of your night, see you in the morning.
Here on the Game
Okay, welcome in. I want to play baseball tonight and
get a victory. Unfortunately, the schedule says the Brewers are
not playing tonight, but they'll be indeed in play tomorrow,
Game three of the NLCS. Here in the twenty twenty
five Championship season. What's going on? Guys? Tim Allen punched
in ready to go? Another special addition to playoff push,
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there's Hunter Bombguard and we're talking Brewers Baseball here on
the game and the iHeartRadio app. If you guys want
to join the show. Oh. Questions, oh plenty from Brewers
fans Hunter on the nicolay law dot com talking text
line eight seven seven seven nine four one ninety seven
to three. As the Brewers in a hole, I mean,
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it's it's well documented. We're we're all in the agreement
that things don't look great. However, I truly believe this
with a victory tomorrow, that the pressure goes back to
the Dodgers. And it's it's very similar to the NLDS
where the roles are reversed a little bit. When the
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Brewers were up to zip and then the Cubs win
a game. Uh oh, Brewers are saying we don't need
this thing tied to two too, because then it's an
elimination game. Although this won't be an elimination game, it
would be an opportunity for the Brewers to get it
back to two to two. But that pressure into game
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four needs to be set in game three here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it really does. I mean this is a yeah,
it's it feels about as must win as it gets
when it comes to and I know people were talking
about last night as must win as it gets and
maybe you look back and say, yeah, maybe it was.
But where you are now down two oh, going to LA?
Do you have you know, home field advantage of it?
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You know anymore?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But you take two out of three in LA, and
you got a chance at least coming back to molt
to force a game seven and you you did that.
You forced game seven and twenty eighteen against the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's tough customers on the mound again, but out by out,
inning by inning, and it starts tomorrow night at five.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Ye yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you just got to
start digging out. And you want to limit at this point,
you want to limit the opportunities of a clinch game
for the Dodgers. So you just limit those and if
you fall in uh, you say, win two out of three.
But if you lose this first one in LA, they
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get two cracks at home in elimination situation, and that's
that's you know, you can you can limit that to
one with a victory here in game three, right, because
they can't clinch up only two to one. Okay, say
they win game four, they only get one crack in
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LA to get that you know, final out and head
to the World Series. I'm talking about the Dodgers perspective here,
but from the Brewers' perspective, just limit the opportunities. If
you lose tomorrow, Hunter, they get two cracks at a
close out. Yeah, and you want to limit that to
one in LA, just one of those, and you can
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do that by winning just one of the next two.
You limit it to just one crack at it. Well, actually,
you'd have to win tomorrow to limit it to one
crack at it in LA, and that that is you know,
I'm not sure must win as the scenario here, but
pretty damn close. It really is.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
As close as you can get without it being But
I like how you kind of arrowed that down a
little bit. I think you made me feel better here
in the first couple of minutes of the show with
saying that, yeah, you just win tomorrow and then the
Doctors only have one chance to clinch and that's if
they win both of their last games there, and that's right,
So who knows. I mean, it just it's it's it's
I know one of your favorite sayings him is it's
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just baseball.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But it is at.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Times, and sometimes, you know, you may have glass now
on the mound and the Dodgers have been dominant on
the mound so far and everything like that, but come tomorrow,
maybe it's a little different, and the Brewers hop out
to an early lead. The crowd maybe isn't as packed
as it should be, you know, at three zero eight
local time, when that first pitch is thrown in La tomorrow,
and maybe you take advantage of that.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
To reminisce about the season that is not was is
this is still the twenty twenty five championship season. I
think it. You know, occasionally we have to look at
it as glass half full at times and just say, hey,
there's plenty of teams that would love to be in
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the situation. The Brewers are in right now, meaning still
in play. You're still playing baseball here? What the hell
is the day today? October what sixteenth? Fifteenth fifteenth? It's
October fifteenth, and the Brewers are still playing baseball. The weather,
it's almost like mother nature is cooperating to Mother nature
does not want to to separate the summer weather because
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the Brewers are still going on. It just it just
makes sense that, you know, we're not blustery in the
lower forties with some sleep going on, and it's it
just it seems as if there's something here that these
guys aren't going to give up or give in. And
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and we've we've well a lot of people have counted
them out time and time again this year. But to
look look back as to what has occurred this summer
here in twenty five, I mean, they had the best
record in baseball that probably plays the top of the
list in terms of these special things that have occurred
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during a special season. But these winning streaks, gosh darn it,
we were we were going crazy earlier this summer. What
a great, great year of baseball thus far? Now is
it getting a little dicey, as you would say, little testy?
Of course it is. You know you're gonna have to
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step up, but you know, the lack of trades at
the deadline, or the acquisition of Andrew Vaughan, or the
summer of sal for a while there. I mean, all
of these stories, Yuker magic and celebration of life. A
fourteen game winning streak, set a franchise record, an eleven
(06:30):
game winning streak, an eight game winning streak almost counted
out countless times throughout the season, torpedo bats, you know,
doing some heavy duty damage, all the different injuries that
have occurred. I could continue on and on. I don't
want to make this a baseball eulogy, however, but I
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do want to just make sure that glass is half
full in that the Brewers are still in play, and
one single victory wouldn't make a huge difference in not
only the perspective for the Brewers and it's fan base us,
but it also would change the perspective of the Dodgers.
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And they may say, nah, we're still in the catbird seat,
We're in the driver's seat. We got this thing. It's again,
assuming a victory tomorrow, the pressure is back on them
and this season continues. All these special stories, the special
season can continue with a victory. You again, is it
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do or die? No, not yet, but you need to
pour it all out there only because the ramifications of
Game four come into play here, and that's Dodger pressure.
Uh oh, I want them to say, uh oh, we
better step up here. From the Dodgers perspective, we better
step up here. Well, these guys are going to tie
the damn thing at two to two. Now, maybe they
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play a little tight, maybe the Brewers get a little energy,
and quite frankly, you know, was talking with Doug Russell
and Dave gasper to day earlier, Hunter, and there's two
ways to look at what happened after in between these
two playoff series, in between nlds and NLCS. There's two
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ways you could look at it. One would be it
was such a huge victory and these guys are spent
type of thing, sure the fatigue as set in they
were at one hundred and sixty seven games in the
regular season in playoffs to that point last Saturday. Or
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you could look at it as and this is the
way I choose to look at it, that it was
this relief that the Cubs didn't do it to you
and it happened so quick, with one day off, you
didn't have enough time to ratchet back up and meet
that energy level. That's the way I'm looking at it,
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that it was more of a relief who counsel didn't
do it? To us? And I will admit I fell
victim to that sort of sentiment a little bit. I did. Now.
I didn't say, hey, now that you beat the Cubs,
doesn't matter what happened with the Dodgers, But I was
sort of, wow, they didn't do it, Thank goodness, you know,
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you breathe and with a disregard, hunter to hey, wait
a minute here, you guys got the Dodgers knocking on
your door here in twenty four to forty eight hours,
you better get back up the energy level. That's where
I fell in. Maybe that's where the team sentiment came in.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, they were playing like the Arizona Diamondbacks or you
know a different team, even you know, a team like
the Reds in that first round. I think it's even
the I think you'd be you know, the focus would
have switched faster to the Dodgers for us. Now I
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go to I want to speak for the team, but
for us, and I think Pat Murphy called that an
emotional series multiple times. Yes, so there is something to that,
and there is something to how that team felt, you know,
the the just you know, the elation that was that
I saw in that clubhouse and outside of it and
on the field and going through all the celebration on
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Saturday night. And I think for us as well, I
mean to me, yes, absolutely, I definitely felt where it's like, Okay,
they got over the hump. They won a playoff series,
they eliminated Council in the Cups, one of the biggest
wins in franchise history. Not only thank goodness, but well done,
and just to congratulations to them and basket it a
little bit. And then oh, oh wait, first pitch of
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the Nlcsy Brewers are in the NLCS right now, Like
it's kind of it was kind of like that. And
then also, I think when you talk about rest, and
I said this a little bit on Drew and KB today,
the Dodgers are in a similar spot to where the
Bucks were a couple of years ago, where regular season
really doesn't matter. The Dodgers have won twelve the last
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thirteen n L West titles. They are playing for October.
Their regular season, the games that the Brewers went six
and zero against them meant way more to the Brewers
than it did for the Dodgers. You could see it
with how they handled injuries throughout the year and and
now they have everybody full go in October.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Imagine that it's October and everyone seems to be feeling fine.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And now that exactly and that's it, right where the
Brewers had to fight in claw for every single win,
and they absolutely did, and they got to ninety seven
and the franchise record and won the division and everything
like that, but they had to fight in claw because
of the roster and because and you can get into
salary cap and all that. Like you said, we'll get
into all that after this series, because it's no use
doing it now. But that I think that seriously has
(11:50):
a factor. The guys kind of to me, and I
don't know this for a fact, but they kind of
looked a little out of gas last night and in
this series so far against these two pictures. Now, these
two pitchers have been great, but there's a little bit
of to that. So in overall, I do really think
that there is something to the Dodgers not having to
have that necessarily that win, tight attitude throughout the year
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and now having you know, basically a full complement of
stars heading into October.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, and the experience there for the La Dodgers that
plays a part. Forget about the money, just the experience.
As you said, they've they've won twelve of the last
thirteen division titles. A guy like keyk Hernandez, he's played
in what is it ninety five now, I think so,
I think ninety five postseason games. I mean think about that. Yell,
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he's hive and yell, he's played in twenty five, But
ninety five postseason games for a Key k Hernandez, I
mean that, Well, that's going to help you. Yeah, it is,
and it absolutely is without question. But the underdog are
the Brewers. And Dodgers can scream all day long about
(13:06):
how they're not buying that, but that's the reality of it.
I mean, let's face it now again, the Brewers win.
It's a baseball game. Yeah, as Yelly says, anything can happen,
and anything it's just baseball, or it is baseball, that's
just baseball. That's a baseball game tomorrow night, and the
Brewers it's not going to surprise me. I'm not predicting
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a victory, but it's not going to surprise me if
they come up with the win and just force the
issue a little bit. They've been doing it the entire
year now. A little bit of that is heart. There's
no doubt those of you that have known me for
a while and just you know, a huge Brewers fan.
Some would say fanatic, but I just think that they're
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fully capable, only because anytime we've them and maybe not
counted them out, but at least one doubt creeps in.
That's when they say, uh huh, don't do that, don't
do that. We're better than that. I was listening to
Jed Hoyer today, Hunter, I don't know if you caught
some of those comments. Was the end of the year
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press conference for the Chicago Cubs. Oh it's a blast,
it's beautiful, or yeah, just Hoyer I heard, so I
don't I'm a council might have spoken, but yeah, see
if he did. But Hoyer was asked a couple of
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different questions that involved the Brewers, and one was a
vein in which we've talked about that it is another
year that goes by where the Brewers have the upper hand,
and Hoyer just said, well, that's I mean, they're a
great organization. He spoke favora of the Brewers, but he
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had said that, I mean, it starts with our division,
and it starts with ninety win seasons. So when he
was asked about what is the identity of the Chicago Cubs,
he kind of couldn't answer it. First thing he said
was defense. Wait what You're the third largest city, third
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fourth largest city in America. You're the iconic label of
the Chicago Cubs and you can sit there and say
your focus is on defense. That sounds like a small
market team to me. But he couldn't hunter. The point
is he could not identify, identify the personality of what
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they're trying to do. What's their identity? He really couldn't
answer it. It was a beautiful piece of audio. I
loved it, and you know, maybe we'll grab it and
throughout the off season or maybe late in this run,
have that for you. But I thought it was interesting that,
you know, ninety win years, ninety win seasons. I mean,
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how many times have the Brewers been doing that here
in this run? That's just expected these days, and when
you are a ninety win team. I don't care if
you're going up the big up against the big goliath.
I don't care. A ninety seven win team, a ninety
five win team, a ninety six win team is fully capable.
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They are now are they in a hole first? Or
but they're fully capable. I don't Again, I've been reading
social media. There are a lot of diehards here and
a lot of people are trying to stay positive. But
I think there's more so that the dun Club people
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are looking through their wallets and weigh in the back
of the walls. They little card there, they're Dune Club
card and they're pulling that out. The days hang in there.
Just wait, just hold off just a little bit. That's
that's what I would recommend.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, don't also be done on Yelich either. I know
he's getting a lot of hate or not a lot
of hate, but a lot of you know, criticism, And
I get it. I hope for his last seventeen it's
not a good time to go in a rough patch,
as he told us last night. But just oh, you
never know, because that guy and people are like, you know,
you bench him, No, no, you came in the lineup.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You see what he can do.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I don't even think he moved him down. He's you're
either gonna win with yell Ach or you're not, Like
that's that's the you know, he's one of your best players.
So you're either gonna win because of him or maybe
you might lose because of it. But either way, you're
gonna go up or go down with Christian Yelich. So
I think I'm looking forward to seeing if he can
finish this series strong and maybe that's the reason why
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the Brewers get back into this thing.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, more on Christian yelis with our friend Jack Stern,
Brewer fanatic as we'll talk to him and just a
few minutes, so stick around for that. But if you
guys want to jump in here talk a little Brewers baseball,
you're sitting there in Madison or in the north Land,
you can do that or wherever you're listening on the
iHeartRadio app. You can hit us up at eight seven
(18:09):
seven seven nine four one ninety seven three on the
nicolay law dot com talk and text line. That's eight
seven seven seven nine four one ninety seven to three.
Hang on, hang in, don't give up. I mean, that's
the only way I can think about it. You got
a ballgame tomorrow, and there are what twenty six other
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teams yep that would love to deplete be playing in
a two to zero hole in LA in Dodger Stadium tomorrow. Yeah,
the Cups, probably Wood, Cubs would love to be in
this situation. The Cardinals probably Wood. They would love to
be in this situation. Would Oh yeah, David start just
they just completely revamped a couple of key coaching staff members.
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They're still struggling too. And look at our Oh, these
little low Brewers here, these little average shows. They're in
LA market, number two in America against the goliath, and
they're still in play here in the twenty twenty five
championship season. We'll take a break. Thanks to Drew and
KB for stepping aside allowing us to get some Brewers
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baseball conversation, taking advantage of the moment here on the
Game and the iHeartRadio app. Welcome back, another additional playoff
push here on the Game and the iHeartRadio app. Some
programming notes here for those that are following along with
the postgame show that we do and those of you
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outside the Milwaukee market you may not have been familiar
with the postgame show. My name's Tim. Nice to meet you.
We've been doing it twenty years in the Milwaukee market
and we're really proud of that. But you know, with
some changes going on in Milwaukee on ninety seven through
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the game, the former ninety seven to three the game,
we do have different platforms, and one of which in
Milwaukee was Fox Sports nine to twenty and that's predominantly
going to be the one to go to. However, got
some Badger's hockey on that affiliate in Milwaukee, So you
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must tune or turn two the following social platforms for
tomorrow night's postgame show.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yes, YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter on the game. So if
you go to the game, it would be the formula
like you said, ninety seven to three the game and
we will be on ninety seven three the game's Facebook.
We will be on ninety seven three the game's YouTube,
and we'll be on ninety seven three the game's Twitter
tomorrow night after the game and everything.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Stays the same.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You still get to call, you still get to text,
still hear Pipe, you'll hear Timmy. I'll be in yours
as well, So we'll still have the same postgame show.
It'll just be getting to you a different way tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, just for tomorrow night. And there the longer the
Brewers extend here, we're gonna find a way. We're gonna
find a platform to deliver on the postgame show. Whether
I got to you know, give y'all, all of you
guys a bunch of string and a bunch of tin
cans and I'll just sit on my porch. I'm gonna
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we're gonna find a way to get you the postgame
show through this what is really a special season thus far.
And I know it looks a little bleak, and I
know what the numbers say, down oh two. It's very rare,
but it's very rare that an organization like this is
doing what they're doing. That's the rarity. Also, I mean,
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don't count them out. If you want to join us
here today. Jack Stern is coming up Brewer Fanatic whyt
to get into that Christian Yelich conversation with him in
just a couple of minutes, So stick around for that.
But on the text line, you can hit us up
nicolay Law dot com. Talk and text line is still
there for you guys listening to us right now. Eight
seven seven seven nine to four, one, ninety seven to three.
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Yes's out Hunter.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, so let's go through a couple of texts here.
Let's see John and Rhinlander. I'm not done until it's done.
Call me super optimistic, but I think we can win
all three, come home and finish the job.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Could you imagine what a party?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You know, throughout the especially the second half and probably
more so isolated on the second half of the season,
I've been using comments that I expect this team in
the World Series, and I'm not going to budge from that.
I expect this team in the World Series. Now is
a looking bleak, Yes it is, But I'm not going
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to change from that because, and here's the philosophy. What
would a Cardon fan think if they had ninety seven wins?
What would a cub fan think if they had ninety
seven wins? What would any team's fan base think? With
ninety seven wins the most in Major League Baseball this year,
It's not that far fetch for me to say I
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expect them in the World Series. It's really not that
out of line to say that. Well, I know the
backlash on that was Tim. You know, it's the Brewers.
They'll find a way to not get there. No, I'm
not looking at it that way. I'm looking at it
from a baseball standpoint. You ran away with your division,
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you ran away with the one seed and the best
record in baseball. You got out of that first round.
Then you get into the NLDS, you win that. Why
would I change now because of two losses? By the way,
this team has been known to win a few games
here and there right in a row. Oh, I don't know,
eleven game winning streak. You remember that fourteen game winning streak,
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eight game winning streak. I'm not going to budge from that.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, every time I feel like we've went we've
said the saying wouldn't that be wild? Or wouldn't that
be awesome? I feel like it's happened this season, and
and you know, you talk about wouldn't that be amazing?
If you beat the Cubs in the playoffs? Birds did
that and they blew them out twice and then they
won a game five against them, and a winning streak
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like that, wouldn't it be awesome? If you go on
a big winning streak, or win the division, or get
to ninety seven wins or all of that.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
It's all happened this year.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's it's felt this special, special season that we've been
a part of. So to say they go out and
do that isn't too far fetched. However, you also know
the talent on the other side, and you have to
obviously be realistic about that. But I of all the years,
this is the one. I'm not I'm not going to
count them out by any means. Yeah, yeah, this is
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the one, and and there'll be more. And that's that's
the thing. And again I'm not making this a baseball
eulogy here, but the future is bright. I mean, you
take a look at just some of the minor leaguers
that have not hit the bigs yet. With one of,
if not the best farm system in all of baseball,
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you still have stars coming and not that far away.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Really, I mean, it is a revolving door here of
team control. It's a team control. It's just this cycle
that this team is take for example, next year. Okay, fine,
I'll start with the liability. The liability might be the
starting rotation. But what has this organization done with starting pitchers.
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They've been gurus at it, they've been phenomenal at it. Okay,
but it'll be a young starting rotation. That's about the
worst I can say. The most critical thing I can
say moving forward the next few years Misarowski, Quinn Priester,
Robert Gasser. I mean, I would assume that Woody Freddy
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and King Tana are gone, and then we can get
into that assumption in the off season. But yeah, young
starting rotation. Okay, set that aside. That is something that
needs work. Look at the position player group. My goodness,
it's not going anywhere right. None of these guys are
exiting unless there's some sort of major trade, which I doubt.
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Once you have team control on star players like Contreras
and Churio and Terrag and Freelich and Vaughn and Durbin
and Joey Ortiz, we could talk about, but most of
these guys are under team control. It's not going to
change anything.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well it goes yeah, and well it goes back to
the discussion we had when they were in Chicago about
how many of these guys are playing in their first
road playoff game ever, ever, ever, And it's like you
go around the diamond and Churio yes, and Freelick yes,
and durban yes, and Ortiz yes, and traying yes, and
Vaughn yes. And it's like you go around the diamond
and six to seven of your nine in the lineup
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are are out there for the first time in a
road playoff game, and you think about what they've done
this year with that inexperience and how much this experience
can help. And I, like you said, we're focusing still
on this year and there's so much work to be
done and that can be done.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's setting you.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It's just it's you love what has happened this season
and how it can set you up.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
For the future. And it is set up. And Pat
Murphy a manager that really has his finger on the
pulse of leadership. Hey, he just does. Now he is
He's sneaky and sly like a fox at time. At
times he is there's no question he knows what he's
doing here, and he loves it, and he keeps it
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loose and he loves it that way and keep the
attention off him. He does like the attention a little bit.
He is an entertainer in that regard. Pocket pancakes and
all of the We could list a million things. We'll
get into that maybe with Jack Stern and you Hunter,
because you guys have been, you know, at a lot
of these most all of the the press briefings from
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from Pat Murphy. But two time Manager of the Year,
he doesn't get that there ought to be a revolt.
Come on, there's just no way they can do that
to this cat. I mean so, but yeah, the future
looks bright. However, you take into this game tomorrow. You
talked about road playoff games. The environment I don't think
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is going to be as as bad as Chicago.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
That was something to be whole and and it really was.
And even I was like, whoa, they are crazy down there. Wow,
you guys. Rabid was I think the word that was
tossed around. But and and la, you know, on a
night game, the Friday night game, I think is going
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to be the mad house. Tomorrow it still will be
a mad house. And they tend to play their said
can sound effects super super loud. They're an engaged fan base,
they are it's going to be a loud environment even
tomorrow's game. But I think you take what you you learned,
and that's why that's why Murph harped on the environment
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so much. I think that was in preparation to get
into la and to calm a little bit. Hey, stay
stay in the fight, grind a little bit, stay in there.
I mean he Pat Murphy was talking about the Brewer
fans more so in the last month than I've heard
any other manager ever talk about his fan base. Yeah,
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me too. You're right.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
He really consistently made it a point to point him out.
And it's and it's awesome and I and look, there's
a couple of more texts here before we get to Jack.
On the other side, Jason from Kenosha saying, I got
to tell you, I was so bummed last night and
all day today, but tuning into you guys has made
me get my mojo back.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Go. There we go. Nice, I like it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Brandon the four and four looking forward to year twenty
one of the postgame show wherever it is, but not yet,
not yet.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yes, and again glass half full. We still have at
least two more postgame shows left. Yes we do. I
mean that's the way I'm looking at it. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Luke from Usberg says crewe in six for the culture,
making reference to the Bucks and six.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
There we go. Uh huh, there you go, Luke in
the nine to two. Oho.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
There.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Mike from Merrill says, Christian is putting so much pressure
on himself, needs a change and it might rejuvenate himself.
He goes back to he says, let's see. I know
at times I can be critical of Christian because I
don't feel he is a fit in Milwaukee any longer
because of not being able to play be a competitive
everyday solution left field. But this on a serious note,
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I do think that it would be better, sir, for
him to drop to number nine in the order for
protection for Jackson. Move Joey to eight, then have Christian
do anything crowd to plate, bunt, whatever, just to get
on and then being then go back to being a
force on the base paths with stealing speed et cent
to remove Bauers to the cleanup spot.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So yeah, that's interesting, No, it is, and I think
that's those are valid statements, valid ideas I do, Mike. However,
there's two two ways to look at it, real quick
before the break. There's two ways to look at Either
go back to the lineups. You had success with games one, two,
and five, and the NLDS you won all three of
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those games at the identical starting lineup, or you put
sal or Bryce back up top, and you go Cherio
after that, then yell it's three, then go back to
Wright Contreras four, and then you go from there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, I mean all season. I mean, my favorite lineup
is free look at the top. That's just been my
favorite lineup all season.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So yeah, maybe we'll get there. All right, Jack Stir
and Brewer Fanatic, we'll join us next here. We're talking
Brewers Baseball Special Edition here on the Brewers off day
in between games two and three NLCS, and just just
process it a little bit. Brewer season is still going.
They're in the NLCS against the Dodgers. Yeah, they're down two.
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Oh did I say that? No, we don't want to
say that they're in the NLCS and they're in the NLCS. Yes,
all right. We'll talk to Jack Stern on the other
side about the aforementioned Christian Yelich here on the game
playoff push and also the iHeartRadio app Baseball, and that's
something I like to do a little bit. I hope
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you're enjoying this and the special season, the twenty five
championship season. Brewers alive and well. Down two oh, but
alive and well and welcome back thanks to Drew and
KB stepping aside and allowing us to get some Brewers
conversation in here on the Brewers off day between games
two and three, as the travel day is today as
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they say, and back in action tomorrow, uh and the
Brewers much much needed victory that would be huge. More
on Christian Yelich here with Jack Stern of Brewer Fanatic
in just a second here, and I'll set it up
this way. There's been twenty five games for Christian Yellis
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in the postseason, hitting under two thirty with three rb
eyes that includes two home runs. It's twenty five games
with two home runs. Granted, pitching a little bit better,
well sometimes a lot better in the postseason. You're playing
the best teams and the best teams for a reason,
and it's pitching. However, two homers, three RBIs and twenty
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five games. Wow, some of that was due to what
he had been going through. He went through a year
and a half there where it was just quite frankly ugly.
Let's bring him in, Jack Stern, Brewer Fanatic. He's been
covering the crew like a blanket here, Jack, thanks for
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the time here. Let's get into Christian Yelich. Here over
his last seventeen Now, you tell me if this makes
sense to you in witnessing and analyzing Christian Yelich's career
here in Milwaukee, the one concerning thing right now for
me is the eye test. I know that sounds weird
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coming from me, but it is when he is rolling bad,
you see some consistencies, and that is soft contact to
the right side. It's not even getting a barrel on it.
It's just when you say rollover, it's top over. It's
roll over. It's also strikeouts and looking lost. And then
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the third thing I would say, it's just real duffers
in front of the picture when he was rolling bad
a few years ago. Jack, that's what he was doing.
That's the biggest concern for me right here right now
on his oh for seventeen skid. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think the one thing that I always come back
to with Jelich is it's kind of funny to me
because I remember back in the days when you know,
he was putting up the MVP numbers and all this stuff,
and then you have whenever guy's producing, you have all
the people who are online or some of the people
you talk to in real life. They say, man, I
want to try to get like my kid doing the
stuff that he's doing, try to emulate his swing, and
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you got all these people trying to break down his swing.
I actually think that he's got a swing that would
not work for a lot of people. Like if you
watch his swing, yeah, there's a lot of moving parts
in there. There's all kinds of stuff that's not really
what you would traditionally teach guys. Now, it works for
him really well when it's going right, but I think
what we've seen in his time in Milwaukee is it's
so timing dependent, and he's a guy who because of
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his mechanics and the way his swing works, I think
when the timing is off, it looks really really ugly.
And that's when you see it's like the rollovers because
he's out in front, or you see the swings and
misses because he's laid on pitches, or he gets caught
in between, like he's late on the fastball, early on
the breaking stuff and rolling that over. It just I
think you're right on a lot of this. When he's
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not going well, especially the last few years, it gets
really bad. Like look at what he did at the
beginning of the season, when he was really really cold
and then he got really really hot for three months.
I think that's just kind of who he is. I
think it's a product of his swing and kind of
the way his body works, especially as he's starting to
get a little bit older too. Now I think that
stuff that you kind of got to start looking at
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it and thinking about. But for me, so much of
it comes back to there's a lot of moving parts,
and timing is huge for any hitter. But I think
with how he's wired, the timing when it's on versus
when it's off, it creates this bigger gap between what
the good yewich looks like and what the bad yellows
looks like.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And I mean, what's the answer here. You just just
roll the dice and you say, hey man, you gotta
get it. And he he obviously admitted it last night.
You know, he's got to do better. But these are
tough pitchers. This is a tough way to get out
of a slump when you're facing some of the some
of the pitching that you face in an any NLCS.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, and it's look, it gets tricky when you get
into the playoffs, right, Like you said, you're facing all
the tough pitchers. It's a small sample. You need results
right now, Like you don't necessarily have time to wait
for guys to figure things out. But at the same time,
like if you're going to go down in a playoff series,
you've got to go down with your best guys. And
you know, even if Yellow's just struggling, like Bryce Terrain
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kind of falls into this too, he hasn't looked very
good in the playoffs, But you got to go down
with your best guys. And I think you've got to
give your best guys the opportunity to make something happen
and have a good impact on these games. And then
if they don't do that then kind of like what
Yelwich has acknowledged, like the responsibility does fall on them.
Then if they got the opportunity and they didn't produce,
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which unfortunately that's what's happening right now. But I think
you really don't have much choice other than, hey, you're
our guy. You've been one of our best hitters for
years now. We're gonna give you the opportunity. It's on
you to do something with it.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, And I'm not Jack, I'm not gonna pin all
the all of this on Yellis, the numbers are somewhat
disturbing here in the postseason, runs run scored is the
biggest of wits, and that's a team thing. I mean,
that's that is you're looking back at. They've lost four
of their last five playoff games here this year. They
should be lucky. They're even In a lot of teams,
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you lose four or five in the postseason, you're long gone.
They're still alive here. But is there I'm one that
I like lineups, and I think lineups make a difference.
But at this point, I'm going to back off that
stance just a bit, solely because you're gonna have to
have these guys hit period. Wherever they're at in the order.
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I don't think there's one sink. Now. I would try
games one, two, and five. I would try that exact
order tomorrow night, just because because you go back to
what you've won with. But I'm going to back off
that stance just a little bit. This all comes down
to these individuals doing better at the plate. It's as
simple as that you mentioned, Tarang. I think there's room
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to breathe for Vaughn for free, like for Joey Ortiz
getting come up with a hit once in a while,
William Cancereras, can you stop swinging at the first pitch,
maybe get a look at this guy, etc. It's got
to be a team thing. I don't think a lineup
is gonna make the biggest of difference.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, I think you're right on that, And you know,
we can have the larger discussion about lineups. I personally
don't think it matters a whole lot. But again, that's
kind of beside the point. Right now. These guys got
to hit no matter what situation they're placed in. And
it just seems to me, like, especially against these Dodgers starters,
whatever they're looking for, and it seems like they've been
looking for fastballs, or they think that they've been seeing
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fastballs out of the hand these last two nights. That's
not what they're getting, man Like. They're getting a lot
of change ups, a lot of break king balls, and
they're swinging at them like they're fastballs. And they got
to figure that out. They got to adjust something here
because what they're doing right now isn't cutting it. And again,
if your approach isn't good enough, or if you haven't
approached and the pitcher's countering it and you're just not
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able to find a way to adjust. You know that
that has nothing to do with the lineup. The lineup's
not going to impact that at all. The batting order
is not going to impact that at all, as long
as that underlying issue continues. And I think right now
that just kind of needs to be what the Brewers
focus on. And obviously it's the easier said than done.
I think these two Dodger starters have thrown the ball
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really well. But at the same time, you know, if
you're the Brewers, your the urgency is cooking right now,
like that should be feeling some key here, and they
got to figure something out, and they got to find
a way to now get to a couple more starters
they're going to face. We're also very good pitchers, Like
beating good pitchers in the playoffs is what you have
to do, or you have to be able to do
enough against them and hope that your pitching staff folds
(40:56):
serve And I think for the most part, especially in
these two games, the Brewer's pitching in their run prevention
has been fine, but you know, they got to figure
something out. They got to figure something out offensively.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I agree, Jack, and I love when Murph went through
your wardrobe the other day. So that was that was fun.
That was really cool. You got to be having a blast.
Well listen, we're out of time. We got to talk again,
all right, thanks, thanks for a couple of minutes here.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, you got it man.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
All right there he is Jack Stern Brewer fanatic. Yeah,
you guys in the presspool are wildly entertained by Murph.
I love it that. That Dude's great.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Did you hear about Dave gasper our own getting the wardrobe?
I did not, Yes, yesterday he did the whole Dave
stood up, twirled around.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It was like in the hole.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I'm telling you, there's probably forty reporters in there from
all over the country, from Bob Nightingale to Jesse Rodgers
to you know, all these people have covered the game
for a really long time. And then you know the
Dave had has had a shirt and tie on, and hey,
why don't you stand up and let's see you know
all those are good pants and the whole deal. So yeah,
(42:05):
it's before a playoff game, before an NLCS.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Game, you know, trying to keep it loose. That's Smurph.
There's a one of a kind with Pat Murphy. It
seriously is okay? So what do we got cooking? Here?
More Bruce conversation right here tomorrow morning. I'll be joining
Bill Schmid for the morning show tomorrow here on the
Game Network and the iHeartRadio app. Let's see. After that,
(42:31):
we have another special edition of Playoff Push tomorrow right here,
same time or same same platform at two, is that right, hunter? Yep,
two to three, two to three tomorrow, and the postgame
show a little bit different. We're going to be streaming
that on the socials. The audio will be there for
(42:52):
you on the Games Twitter, Facebook and YouTube accounts. So
that's postgame tomorrow. We'll be able to take your calls,
take your text, the whole deal. But watch for the
Brewers or i should say the postgamers Facebook page. Brewer
Postgamers with Tim Allen, we'll give you all the details.
(43:14):
Is where you can hear the show moving forward. But yeah,
Brewers in the heat of battle and cross your fingers,
they're not done yet, all right. Thanks to Drew and
KB for moving aside here and allowing us to talk
and Brewers baseball here the twenty twenty five championship season
rolls on. I'm not giving up. I'm not giving in.
(43:36):
One win puts the pressure back on LA, so let's
cross our fingers for that tomorrow for a Hunter bombguard
thanks to Jack Stern Brewers fanatic. My name is Tim Allen.
Enjoy the rest of your night, see you in the morning.
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