Full Show: November 10, 2025

Here's Monday's show, featuring the latest Dallas Mavericks front office rumors and discourse, Krystina has the details on a wild music conspiracy theory, and we discuss the highlights from Saturday night's Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you see Troy Aikman and Emmett Smith and Pad
Rodriguez and Darren Woodson right there? Oh yeah, they're right
behind you. They're looking at you and just wishing you
the best. Hope you go win some money at one
of those tables.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'll see. Okay, all right, not kidding enough.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I heard whin when I showed you gone ruling it
except for similar to be pursuing it, to hold out
shaw shank through the sewer bid. Now what chill in
that day, eagle?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, we doing it through your clotting on the dock.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Got a habit for my house a go. That is
how it started. Kittting cratty show that enough boltipply like
a rabbit. Tune in so out, crank it up, beat
the habit.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
I won' hang.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Out with my friend rocking on the radio my hole
only by.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Skins talking on the radio. It's time see.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Tune They swam in all baby baby we go kat
Christine up.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Ah, Yes, Happy Monday, everybody, It's the world famous Ben
and Skin Show ninety seven point one.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
The Eagle.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Thank you for tuning in today and every day, making
us a part of your daily routine.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We do not take it for granted. Thank you, thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Now, on Friday, we were at the Chalk Talk Casino
and Resort and Durant and you just heard the show
start with that. We never know what Christina's going to play.
We never know what she's doing back, What is she
doing in there? Man, don't worry about it making meat
loaf first? But she replayed the guy I just started
doing this thing. I think in one of our last
remotes where if you know, people wander up where we

(01:42):
are at the Chalk Talk Casino Resort. We're sitting out
in the hallway kind of where a lot of people
walk in by the food court in the sports bar,
and we have a promo table. So everyone goes to
a promo table there, like I want something free? Can
I get a free T shirt? That's why they're there,
and we love it. We're giving out free merch. Some
people are like, well, what about this other table or
these guys are wearing headsets. Yeah, that's my favorite thing.
That's the idea of going and talking to someone wearing

(02:03):
a headset. That's always You don't even have to have
worked in any sort of field in which people wear headsets,
So no it's unlikely this person's going to be able
to hear me. They're wearing a headset, you stupid ass, Like,
think through what you're doing for five seconds? Is your
goal to get the person to take off their headset

(02:24):
and suddenly devote their time to you.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
What are you thinking? Yes?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
And so I just started doing this thing where somebody
walks up and if I know that they're just looking
for something free and just want to talk to us
while we're all wearing headsets in the middle of the conversation,
I just hand them a headset. It's time because it
just reverses it on them and they're like, okay, well
what they're like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, you're live on Dallas radio now.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Now your time is my time, that's right, And so
you've instigated this and so this is what you got.
And so I like that guy because he was like, yep,
that's good enough. He was he was like, I'm done
with you, all right, that's good enough. It's going to
be on the end of our show forever. He reversed
the reverse. Yeah, that guy's a hero to reverse the reverse. Yeah,

(03:06):
triple reverse flee flicker. So it's when he ended up
facing the cowgirl y. Yes he did at the end.
Now or speaking of remotes, We're going to be at
the Pluckers and Mesquite this Friday. We'll do our show
live from three to six. We want you to come
hang out with us. It's gonna be awesome. A couple
things I want to get into. Today's going to be
a great show. Look, we are in we are in
a kind of a watch, wait and see mode as

(03:29):
there's tons of headlines out there about Nico Harrison potentially
being let go.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
It could happen at any point. If it does, we'll
talk about it. But obviously that's one of the biggest
stories on Earth right now. It's trending right.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, And it's been trending for a couple of
days now. And I think the reason that it's got
more momentum than it has over the last five or
six months is when there's several big time reporters all
talking about it simultaneously. That means it's coming from a
lot of different areas, and so it doesn't mean that

(04:01):
he's going to be fired. What it means is that
there are palpable discussions beyond fans holding signs. That's what
that means otherwise you don't have that many reputable people
talking about it. But it doesn't mean anything is eminent
or anything like that. So we'll be on the lookout
for that. If news breaks, we'll fix it. And then
I want to send a shout out to a couple

(04:23):
of different listeners. We've gotten very close with several of
our listeners over the years, and we've had people that
have just ridden with us the whole way, and we're
grateful for all that. And if you just got on
board recently, that's great too. But two people in particular
that we know that are in health fights. One is
our buddy Jake Vielma.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
He needs a new.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Kidney and so we think about him quite a bit.
He's in our thoughts and prayers. We love him the
ve almost at the front desk. And another one is
our buddy Brian Day. Brian Day is fighting a blood
cancer and on Saturday his wife threw this thing together
where there out and about it.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
You know, he's very into cars. He has these badass cars.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
He has some I think it's an NSX, I think
it's an accurate but it looks like a Ferrari Wow.
And he bought it in Japan, and so the steering
wheels on the right side and so wow, yeah, like
they're into they're into cars, like that's their passion. He's
helped us with cars a lot over the years and whatnot.
Great guy. But his wife surprised him. As he's battling
this cancer. It's it's gets hard for him sometimes obviously,

(05:25):
and and so I know you can relate to that
skin it's nicety, and I didn't. I did you know
every cancer is different effects you differently. Blood cancer is
really tough. I mean they're all.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Tough, yeah, but blood cancer is tough. Man' that's a
tough battle. So she wanted to surprise him.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
So they were out and about on Saturday night and
she organized, like all these people.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I think there's one hundred people there.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Met in a parking lot of a grocery store and
she said, something's wrong with my car. Let's pull in here,
and she because he was following her. They both have
badass cars. And they pulled in and there was one
hundred people just giving him love, wishing him the best,
hugging him, and he was blown away.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So and then the police came and said, no, lord, it.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Was it was very fast and furious. You know, hey,
he got up and he goes it's all about family.
He's kind of the dom. Yeah, this thing, so it's amazing.
Shout out to Brian Day. Another shout out is a
guy that Skin and I grew up with. His name
is Meat. It's his birth name, no last name. Just
meet and Christina. You've been doing the show with us
for a long time. We mentioned him sporadically. When we

(06:25):
mentioned Meat, do any of the stories we've told about
him come to mind.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
I don't really remember the stories, but I know they're
always crazy stories.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Yes, you'll know him when you hear him. I'm curious
about our listeners. How for me and Katie, when you
think of Meat, do you think of any stories?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
The time that he had told another guy that he
was a different number on a basketball team.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so a fight with that giant guy.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Uh, that's one of my favorite Meat stories ever. My
favorite is that he spent I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
This may be an exaggeration, but I feel there was
a fourteen to sixteen month period of his life where
he drove a Silver Probe that had completely bald tires
and no brakes, and he used the emergency brake to
break his car for at least the calendar year, and
during that same time, he during that same time, during

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the same time, he had no windshield wipers, and he,
rather than get it fixed, he went out and found
the stuff rainex that Nascar drivers used that makes water
hit your windshield and immediately disperse. And so he had
no brakes, bald tires, and no windshield wipers for fourteen
to eighteen.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Months living on the edge.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
His dad worked for Cores and he had a silver
bullet car and we.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Had this contest.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
We're basically the same height and we're both about six
two sixty three, and we had this contest to see
who could get the tallest height on their driver's license.
And so, yeah, I got sixty four, he got six five.
I got sixty six. He went in to get six seven.
And as you get older, it's hard to get the
Department of Motor Vehicles.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
They were like, has.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Anything changed on your information? And you got well, I
grew three inches or I grew two inches, and they're like,
you're forty like and so he had the system where
he went in tried to find the oldest lady at
the DPS to go get her, and so he went
in to get six seven and it was just like
playing twenty one or thirty three in the driveway. If
you get shot blocked, you go back down to six
to two or whatever. And so the lady called the

(08:24):
state trooper over to measure him. She was like, he
eight six seven, He's about six to two. And so
that's one of my favorite meats. So happy birthday to
meet Jay Hatchel. I love you all right. Coming up next, Skin,
We're you gonna take some things. Skin is tracking. I
have an important rock and roll question for Christina.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Juicy nest God every come, stay on the top in
the shovel.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Saturday Night, Nikki Glazier became the seventeenth person who has
been on the Ben and Skin Show to host Saturday
Night Live, and uh, we had her in studio a
long time ago. She brought her little dog up there.
She's wearing no makeup and appeared to be pretty put
out with all of it. She seemed to be very tired.
A lot of material She's nice, a lot of her

(09:17):
materials about putting out. Yeah, it is good boy, and
I think this is one of the edgiest SNL monologues
of all time.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I've heard that up for us.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
By the way, her attitude when she joined our show
is why I love getting.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Emails that say, would you like to have this comedian on?

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
A lot of times they're tired, yeah, in the radio yeah,
and they don't want to do their materials, so they're
just like, what do you want to ask me?

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Hey man, we're gonna have a guest on that has
disdained for the moment. Would you guys please book that?

Speaker 1 (09:42):
They really amazing but canceled show Louis on FX. There's
a whole episode on comedians not wanting to do radio interviews,
and it's beautiful that shows aren't great.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
So here's one of her first jokes. This is truly
a dream come true.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
I love this show so much, and here I am
in New York City, Epscene's original island. It's such a
special night.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I got a spray tan tonight, thank you.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
I mean, it is kind of insane that white people
can just like paint their skin a different color and
they're like, this is cool, right, Like I feel like
that's cultural appropriation.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (10:17):
I mean, it's not a black face. But it is
like guatemaline leg. I mean, this is not my leg.
I'm like, oh my god, miamo is Nikki?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Look at that? Am I saying that?

Speaker 9 (10:29):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay, just get a little started, right, Yeah?

Speaker 8 (10:33):
But I breathe this stuff in every week. I am
definitely gonna get some kind of respiratory illness from it.
I think in like twenty years there's going to be
some epidemic called tan long.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I really want to be on.

Speaker 8 (10:45):
The commercials for the class action lawsuit. I think that's
like such a good gig. I can just I'm Niggy
glazernize me from the ross of Tom Brady. It'd be
like me and Snooky like that's fun.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Talking through our tracks.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
RFK junioring out like he's got tam long. I mean
that's stage two.

Speaker 10 (11:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (11:08):
I'm no health expert, but neither is he.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I mean, okay, oh good, fire son, very good, very good.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, she's getting he nails done as well.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
I've been with my boyfriend for ten years. He's never
once noticed that I've gotten my nails done, and they.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Go meet him, so it's high put up. The only
time he cared was when.

Speaker 8 (11:34):
I got them bedazzled for his pleasure and then he
loved him.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
All right, So she's good, right, she's good.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
She does a lot of work on the clubs right now,
these jokes, but it is like she's got to also
prove that she's more than the roast girl. But I
think she's just like I'm just edgy all the time
because I didn't see sex trafficking jokes on the SNL
monologue Guy up, but here we are.

Speaker 8 (12:01):
I think I'm just paranoid. I'm just kind of like
obsessed with slavery recently because every time you go to
a women's restroom, a public women's restroom, and you sit
in the stall, there's always a poster on the back
of the stall that's asking you if you're being trafficked.
I have a lot of gen Z friends that I
bought and the terrified, and I don't relate. I'm forty one.

(12:22):
That was like not a fear of mine ever in
my twenties and my twenties, I just feared like good
old fashioned rape, you know, like I didn't think it
would be a career. We didn't think as anything more
than a temp job on a fret house putan, but
it's real, though, I'm getting scared, like it's rubbing off
on me. Like I was out with them recently and
I was like, what if we get trafficked?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
And they're like, you're good.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
They're like, we're safer when you're with us because you
they think you're our madam, so you like resting Julaine face,
so just keep.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
That up and I'm like, okay, wow.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
So yeah, the crowd didn't even know what to explore,
what they how to handle it either, because they were
kind of laughing, but it was not a full on,
oh yeah, we're okay, we can do this here, but
not seeing that on us. Now, was she good in
the sketches? He was?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
It was very good.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Do you think SNL knew she was going to do
all that or do they surprise people with their monolog
I think they knew.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
So are they dealing with backlash? Yeah? A little bit. No,
I mean she is, they're not.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Who is who is the last female comedian that was
successful without being edgy?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Three?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Text? The general?

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, general, I think that this female comedian was successful
without being edgy?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
All right?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Coming up next, in just over three minutes, we crank
up the Wayback Machine. Things that happened ten years ago
this week that's next ann Skin Show ninety seven point
one The Eagle. Thanks for hanging out with us, man.
We got lots of maths to talk about coming up
here in fifteen minutes. We got nine inch nails tickets
to give away. But right now it's time for this.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's time to go into the Wordberg. Thank you ten
years ago this week.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
I like doing this segment because I think it just
kind of gives me a good look at how the
world has changed a.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Little bit over the last decade.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Because one of the things that happened on this week
ten years ago, Ellen DeGeneres was named the kind of
celebrity by NBC News, and now she is known as
not that.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't think she's known as not the kind of celebrity.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Taylor Swift was second, Will Smith was third.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
The kind of celebrities The world has changed a lot?

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Can the kind of celebrity? Sucker punch Chris Rock.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Sucker slap Yeah. Also ten years ago, Peyton Manning broke
the all time passing yard record. Has it been asked,
yes by who? Tom Brady and who else? Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
A guy? No, not Iron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
But a guy who has been hired by Fox in
the last week, Oh, Drew Brees. Drew Brees hired because
they fired Mark Sanchez.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Did you see that story that Mark Sanchez got fired? Yeah, okay,
here's what was strange about that. To me, I was like,
you had the ability to have Drew Brees on your broadcast,
and you chose Mark Sanchez. That's really isn't that sort
of the lead major network chooses Mark Sanchez over Drew
Brees initially.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Have you seen Drew Brees do TV? No, it ain't good,
my friend, all right, it ain't good.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yep. He had a little run at NBC for a while.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
It was so bad that they were like, let's get
Jason Garrett in here im immediately.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
God, I don't even remember that.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
It's pretty bad when Jason Garrett's chosen over you.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh yeah, he's their lead dog, and now he does
TikTok dances with Maria Taylor.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I don't understand Jason Garrett's life at all.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
I do remember when he was calling games for that
Moose Football.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
League or well, yeah, the UFXL. Yeah, I do remember
when he was doing color for that.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
M Ronda Rousey suffered her first loss ten years ago.
But what do y'all think of when you think of
Ronda ROUSI do you want to think of any type
of controversy we were involved in.

Speaker 11 (16:19):
With I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I thought she dated Turtle. I don't know. Didn't she
date Turtle from Entourage or something?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Do you remember when our old colleague and good friend
Jesse Holly said on Twitter that he would liked to
he would like to fight her, and that got him
in some really hot water over at the Fan.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I do remember that. I just remember just living in
hot water at the Fan.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Way in twenty fifteen, it feels like a little more
of a sensitive time than now.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Honestly, that's why I like doing this segment. Guys.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Have I told you, guys why I like doing this
segment you just did twenty fifteen. This week, Jason Alden
criticized for his blackface Halloween costume.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh I don't even remember this. You don't remember when
he went Hallwayne for Halloween? He went in Lil Wayne.
What was he thinking? How do you do it? Why
do you do it? What's the payoff there?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I want to know more about celebrities and what they
do it Halloween in general? Like, are there are there
celebrity Halloween parties that you go to? That's all celebrities
dressed up?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Has to be d I don't know.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Isn't Heidi Klume like known for her Halloween costumes every day?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Did y'all see her costume this year? Uh? She's insane.
She was the job of the Hut? Is that right?
She did that one year?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
One year she was at Worm, she was Medusa and
she had a bunch of snakes coming out.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Of her head. Oh yeah, I saw that. She's insane,
Like that is a big red flag. Was she topless
in that? Because Medusa's topless?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's the bit. Medusa's got her jugs out and snakes
in her hair.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You'd have to get a good look at it to
see if I can't really tell you. The fake snakes
are so real looking. Once she was a worm that
year or two, I mean, dude, no wonder seal got out.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Let's see what else here? What else here? Ten years ago?
Can you believe it? Victoria's Secret launched a mosquito repellent. Really,
I remember that.

Speaker 12 (18:25):
They wouldn't let me around any boy or so does
they put that repellent on. I don't you remember that? OK,
that's enough, Yeah, catch up, all right, just back on time.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
All right, good job Katie.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
All right.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Coming up next, we'll go around the sports. Uh, the
entire world is watching the Maverick situation with their GM
Nico Harrison will discuss it next.

Speaker 13 (18:51):
Now around the sports, KGD twins as.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
All the sports.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Ye here is Dirt Novitsky from his Amazon Prime broadcast
on Friday night with you know he was asking him
about the match so far. This is again after a
MAVs loss on Friday night in Memphis.

Speaker 13 (19:10):
Yeah, I feel bad for my mass fans. This has
been a disastrous start. There's a whole point guard and playmaking, position,
shot creating, there's a.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Whole shop making.

Speaker 13 (19:23):
You know, you need a be healthy lively, you need
healthy and both of those guys have already been out
for a while. Caffine smiths some games. So it's been
just a disaster start. They're actually on the pace to
have a record bad start. On offense. They can't shoot
the cam make place. It's all kind of going side
to side, east and west handoffs. It's just nobody can

(19:44):
make shots. It's it's been tough to watch.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, I mean, I guess my opinion on this is,
what did he say that's wrong?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Nothing? I don't I've just pulled it because it's dirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I saw.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I just I saw a lot of commentary like, look,
Dirk turned on the MAVs and I'm like what I
First of all, he started it with he felt bad,
like you know, we Ben and I. You know, you've
probably seen it on social media. We launched, you know,
a long form interview series called Haymaker Presents Day and
it's with Dirk. And in that interview, Dirk is talking
about having to get used to not saying we and

(20:19):
us anymore because he's a national broadcaster, which, by the way,
I don't know y'all's opinion on this, but my opinion
on it is, I just don't think you have to
worry about that stuff anymore. I've watched Charles Barkley talk
about his Phoenix Suns for twenty years, so it.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Doesn't strike me that way. But I get it.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
You get old radio and sports TV consultants telling you, no,
you have to be objective and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I just don't think that's where the world is at
on this.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
I think there's not going to be a single person
watching that that's going to try to disassociate Dirt from
the Mavericks, only team he ever played for. There's a
statue of him, et cetera. But I thought like everything
he said was accurate and fair. Yeah, and look, he's
just being honest. And one of the most troubling aspects
of all of this was they had an entire off

(21:04):
season to plan this thing differently, and they this is
what they chose to roll out with, like this was
their only way they could put a competitive roster together.
This is their plan, and you know it's you immediately
go back to the Luca trade, which I think that's
what everyone's doing there. You know, you're looking at this
terrible start for the Mavericks, how dysfunctional it looks, how

(21:25):
they just can't do anything offensively, and then you're looking
at going and this was your blueprint, and it's like
you go back to that trade, and that trade looks
worse by the minute. And so I think all that
is convoluted, and it's just created this uproar and it's
created a huge just national conversation as if you know
Nico Harrison's job is hanging in the balance and hanging

(21:47):
on by a thread. I think the reason the Nico
conversation of fire Nico is different than it was, you know,
in June or February or Arch or whatever you want
to say, is the type of people who are talking
about it now in the way in which it's framed.
And having worked in this business as long as we have,

(22:11):
you know you can you can understand how things are working.
And when someone like Mark Stein is talking about it
a certain way and someone like Tim McMahon is talking
about it a certain way, those guys don't go out
there and just tell you what their heart wants. Yeah,
in the case of Mark Stein, he's the most reporter
of reporters you'll ever see ever. And so if Mark

(22:34):
mark Stein wrote a big piece about it yesterday, and
if you go and read it, you know he's laying
out all these details. And what that is is that's
a product of talking to people that are plugged in.
And so if he's talking about it that way, that's
different than writing an article about all the MAVs fans
want you to fire Anico. That's a different article than

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the machinations of turning up the heat. But it means
where he is in the arena, all the things that
Stein wrote about whether or not Nico gets removed from
his duties or not, This is an indication that the
discussions are happening at a high level. Otherwise they wouldn't
be discussed by those people in the terms in which
they're being discussed, right, And the reality is, this plan

(23:17):
looks terrible, The trade looks terrible, their plan of rolling
out this roster, and you know, you've got guys that
are not healthy, but they're also guys who are rarely healthy,
and so it's like, that's the plan you're planning to
these guys that are always hurt to be okay. And
I think it's got everyone to the point where they're like, Okay,
this plan's not going to work. But the guy who

(23:38):
made the worst trade in the history of humanity should
probably not be the guy to kind of guide the
organization out of where they are.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
And I don't know where the lines fall.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
The one thing I would say is that the Mavericks
have not made a big or Nico has not made
made a big decision since that other than re signing Kyrie, right,
because I think extending Gafford and PJ. Washington Junior to
the contracts they extended them to. Any GM in the
world would have done that. It's a complete no brainer.

(24:13):
The only big decision that's been made is, all right,
let's extend Kyrie and Kyrie extended at a slightly lower value.
So I would argue even then probably in each that move.
But the real interesting thing as you monitor all this
is has Nico been allowed to make another move? Another
big move? And I you know, it could just be coincidence,

(24:34):
It could be happenstance, but it could also be an
indication that ownership is looking at it, going, all right,
how do we move forward in this where they know
the fan base is unhappy? Like that was never lost
on them. They realize that they're hearing it on every level.
They know that the next question is, all right, what
can we do differently and how do we do it?
If they do want to make the change, which I

(24:56):
don't know that they do. I have a hypothetical for
your giant basketball brain, and coming up three minutes.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I'm gonna ask you this question.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle
nine inch Nails tickets all week long. Be listening for
your chance to win. All right, we're talking about all
the national conversation about Nico Harrison. We have Tim McMahon
weighing in on it here in a second. But then
you had a basketball hypothetical. Hypothetically, if the Mavericks decided,
all right, this isn't gonna work what we're trying to do,

(25:23):
and they decide let's change this window around building around
Cooper flag, would there be a lot of interest in
some of the pieces. I'm not specifically asking you to
trade any one person. I'm just saying, would there be
a lot of interest out there for some of the
pieces that they have? So like, if a new GM
comes in and wants to yeah, I think Gafford and PJ.
Washington Junior both have a lot of trade value because

(25:45):
of their age and their very favorable contracts. If you
wanted to trade now, if you wouldn't trade any of
your first round picks, obviously you've got your first round
pick this year, then after that it's pretty questionable.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
It's just so hard because the kind of teams that
would win an Anthony Davis or Kyrie Irving are all
dealing with second Apron issues. So that's why it's like,
like these conversations, they're very complicated because of the collective
Bargaining Agreement rules, and it's very hard to make deals
for high level play. It would be like, you, guys,
remember when there was all this talk, Hey, Lebron James

(26:20):
might get traded, and there's like, well, there's only one
team in the league that can trade for him. It's
Lebron James. If you have guy making over fifty million
dollars a year, the type of teams that would won
him all have salary cap issues. So it's it's all
very very complicated and tough.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
To do this sort of stuff for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So here's what happened on the Collectible I'm sorry, the
Hoop Collective podcast that Tim McMahon is on, and here's
what he said this morning that really I think has
gotten a lot of media attention.

Speaker 9 (26:50):
At this point, I believe it is a matter of when,
not if, Nico Harrison will be fired, and there is
a very very strong likelihood that will be mid season.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Mid season now he talked about.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
To give that a little added context, you know, maybe
they turn it around and go win a few games.
Here while they're at home. Over the next two or
three weeks, they're at home a ton. Yeah, but they're
three and seven through ten games, and they needed to
keep their head above water to even talk about Kyrie
getting back and all that.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
And meanwhile, Anthony Davis is hurt.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
And this is another thing that I want to play
for you guys, because it's very interesting and skin You
might have known some of this stuff internally going on,
but they were also on the road when all this
was going down. But apparently Anthony Davis was wanting to
play on Saturday.

Speaker 9 (27:36):
It's blown up in his face. It's blown up in
Patrick Dumont's face. After that Luca trade. Patrick Dumont, one
of his infamous quotes was in Nico, we trust. I'm
just telling you the trust is disintegrated at this point.
Anthony Davis wanted to play Saturday in Washington, practice Thursday

(27:56):
doubtful than Sat Friday in Memphis. There was internal disagreement
about whether that was a good idea, and there was
a lot of opinions voiced in that. Ultimately they decided
to hold him out in Washington. We'll see if he
plays Monday against the Bucks. He's questionable again, one of
the opinions that was I don't know if it was

(28:19):
a veto. I don't know how heavily this opinion weighed in,
But one of the opinions that was involved.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Here was Patrick Dumont's.

Speaker 9 (28:27):
Patrick Dumont went from blind faith and Nico to now
laying in on whether a star can come back from injury.
That's a pretty significant Jeez, that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's a huge problem. I don't know if you guys
remember this.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
I actually thought Ad was going to play Saturday, like
at the end of the week. I was kind of intimating,
I think we'll see him this weekend. I would be
shocked if we didn't see him tonight. I really think
that he's going to play tonight, and I think, you know,
even going forward on the broad we're planning on him
playing tonight. But you know, we've made changes in the

(29:03):
broadcast before. But you know, with the way that the
schedule is laid out, if they're to Tim's point, if
they are having these discussions and it's a matter of if,
then when you know, when you're front loaded with all
these home games at the beginning of the season, there's
urgency to get the building is dead.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
If you guys watched the Memphis game, the team played
like they were dead. They played with no energy. You're
not even ten games into the season at that point
Friday night, and Max Christie's at the table after the
game talking about We're looking at each other and in
the locker room like, what's happening to us?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Why are we like this?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You know, it starts rotting from the inside out when
you're mired in negativity. And so when you're mired in negativity,
your fans aren't engaged. Did you guys see the sellout
streak ended last week? Yeah, now it was a fake
sellout streak, but to Cuban's credit, he did everything he
could to keep it going. You know what I'm saying.
It was very importing to him. Well, it ended very unceremoniously.
And so when all those things start piling on top

(30:05):
of each other, you start making really big decisions. And
if a guy is in a position where he feels
like it's inevitable that he's going to be let go,
it gets even weirder inside the organization. You know what
I'm saying, I just you know, Anthony Davis, I know
is probably going to feel like he needs to play
to save Nico and make that trade look better and
help his buddy out. I think you're right, And the

(30:25):
whole world's talking about him being Anthony day to day
Davison street clothes. He's always fighting that. He came back
earlier last year than he probably should have and probably
promptly got reinjured. But Kyrie's a part of that too, right, Yeah,
I mean guys out there with calf injuries that then
turn into achilles injuries. It's been pretty commative late, and
so I like the idea of being careful with him,
but they may feel like there's no time.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
To be careful.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
He worked out like five minutes before tip on Saturday night,
like we were watching him work out on the on
the feed. So maybe we'll get into this a little
bit later. But coming up next, Christina, what is in
the Cookie Jar?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
We're going to take a look back into one of
the biggest music conspiracies of all time.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
The Problems.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Grab Christine's scoopy Jar.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
J Christine.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
The last week, Paul McCartney published a book. It's called Wings,
The Story of a Band on the Run, and in
that book he addressed the rumors of his death that
started back in the late sixties, the whole Paul is
dead rumors. Now, before we get into that, he said,
Now that over half a century has passed since those

(31:52):
truly crazy times, he said, I'm starting to think that
those rumors were more accurate than I thought at the time.
In so many ways, I was dead, he said, a
twenty seven year old about to become an ex beatle.
I was drowning in a sea of legal and personal
rows that were just zapping his energy, and he needed
a complete life makeover.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Interesting, so in a way he was dead.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Interesting for him to finally acknowledge that dead.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah, was this the whole deal with walking across the
crosswalk barefoot Abbey Road? Yeah, that was supposedly a sign
of it. There was a bunch of stuff that ties
into it.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
That's what I wanted to get into. So the Abbey
Road stuff I was aware of. Like Benja said, him
walking barefoot, he had a cigarette in his right hand,
not is left, because he's left handed. And people were
speculating that not only is Paul dead, but he's got
a stand in. They're faking us out, They're not telling.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Us the truth.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
But were you guys aware of all these Sergeant Pepper
clues of him being dead?

Speaker 4 (32:50):
I'd have to hear him again. They may ring a
bell once you start going through them.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Okay, Well, first off, this was all started in a
college newspaper where the headline was clues hint at Beetle
death and is.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
One of these from when I'm sixty four?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Well, you're talking about the music lyrics? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Possibly, okay, And so not only was this in a
college newspaper, it was picked up by the London Daily Mirror,
and that's really what started it going. You had to
call her call in at to a radio station like
have you heard about these rumors? And he played it
and then it just took on from there. But I
brought it in my Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Band album.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I was wondering why this was sitting.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Because I want you guys to actually see the cover
as we go through these billion times. Okay, So we're
going to start with the back of it. The back cover, Ben,
tell me what you see?

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Oh okay, you see three beatles looking forward and one
beatle looking backwards.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's Paul with his back turn right, Paul has his
back turn. That's one of the clues that it's passed away.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
In a different colored Oh, I guess they're all wearing
different colors.

Speaker 14 (33:57):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
And then if you open it, Ben, there's a little
patch on Paul McCartney's suit there and what are the initials?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Oh, let me see.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Oh on his left sleep Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Opp okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
It is supposed to be opp but people thought it
said OPD, which stood for officially officially pronounced dead. But
it is opp Ontario Provincial Police, not what you guys said.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
So were they doing this on purpose? Kind of like
Taylor Swift Dent this was all accident.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
I think this is just people looking into things that
weren't actually true.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
I think this is the same reason Ron was talking
about that piece missing in the chair that you could
put opioids into. I didn't think people go back and
start attaching meaning to things because they're different.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
But also, this was before the Internet too, which is
really mind blowing to me. This is before Reddit and stuff,
you know. So I'm like, how bored are you to
just look at this cover and think of all of
these insane things? Okay, So on the front of the
cover there's more because you'll see that they're to the side,
like I'm not talking about the colorful one of the Beatles.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
To the side.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
They're dressed in suits, and Ringo looks very very sad,
and Skin whose hand is on Ringo's shoulder as he's
looking very very sad.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
That looks like it's John.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Oh, Paul coming around his shoulder in a different colored suit.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Is that what's going on? So Paul is consoling him
from beyond the grave.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
And then people are saying that Ringo is looking at
a grave. I'm assuming it's the yellow flowers down there
that look like a base.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Oh yeah, the flowers do look like a bass a
little bit. Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
That was so crazy but actually kind of cool in
a way.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
And then like you said, Skin about the hidden messages,
which there's a whole segment I could do about that, Kat,
you sent me some stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I might do that later this week.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
But the one I remember is the Strawberry Fields Forever
where people thought John Lennon was saying I buried Paul
when he said, no, I'm just saying I'm very bored.
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'm not saying I buried anyone.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Yeah, So, yeah, I just thought those were really really cool.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
That's good. And the idea was that he was in
a car car crash.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Right, yeah, So that started like sixty six. I believe
someone started the rumor that, hey, we heard Paul was
in a car accident.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Is he okay?

Speaker 5 (36:24):
And that actually picked up so much scene that they
had called someone had called the Beatles manager at the time,
Brian Epstein, Yes, and he was like, uh, Paul is
sitting right by me right now.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I don't know what you're talking about. He's fine.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
And they thought the rumors had gone away until that
newspaper thing picked back up.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
So I guarantee you there are people that still believe
he's dead, really, just by the fact they had a
whole other career did things with Michael Jackson, Like, you know, he's.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Doing great though, right, I think he pretty kick ass
for it. He's doing okay, fantastic.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
One of the biggest music conspiracies of old time detailed
in Christina's Cookie. All right, coming up at five o'clock,
we cussed the Cowboys. You won't believe what Jerry Jones
put in a contract for one of his players. But
we're three minutes away from the today game, so I
don't miss it, but come.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Surprise, Do you guys think the Cowboys should have kept
DeMarcus Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
I don't remember the money involved, and I was probably
at the time thinking he was washed a little bit,
but I have I did talk to someone with a
former player who's still dialed in with the team and
was like, man, losing him hurt a lot in terms
of the leadership in the locker room. And I don't
know how much value you place on that. Some people do,
some people don't, and as hard as outsiders to understand,

(37:52):
but they were just saying, man, he with regard to Micah,
I think he helped a lot with kind of the
circus around Mike. I think he regulated that, and I
don't think they were on the titus of terms. So
I think losing him hurt the culture and hurt the
locker room a little bit. But I'm not saying they
should have paid him whatever money. Okay, Well, what I
was going to say is, and I don't know how
much money he got either. I don't disagree with a

(38:14):
single thing you just said. However, I don't think that's
a reason to pay at that point in his career.
That's about the time when a defensive lineman becomes a mercenary, right,
and he goes and helps a team when it's I mean,
we saw it with the other great DeMarcus in Dallas
Cowboys history square going to Denver, right to go be

(38:35):
with von Miller. Like, that's what happens. He was great
for a long time, But you don't need to keep
pumping high money into guys when they get their thirties.
That's you're supposed to have that pipeline churning.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
The deal was three at thirty two to go to Seattle,
and it looks like you could get out of it
pretty easily without too much. Again, maybe after twenty twenty six,
but he had two touchdowns yesterday and I brought it
up for the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Why was he playing on offense? Uh, he was playing
on defense. That's the story.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
The Seattle Seahawks did to Jacoby Brissett and the Arizona
Cardinals what the Cowboys could not do to them, got
to the quarterback, just wrecked the whole show and proved
that Jacoby Brissett's not that great. Yeah, I was wondering
about that, Like, what's gonna happen with Kyler now? Because
they basically said it's Brissette's job and.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Their franchise quarterback over there is all five two of
them going, wait what they're moving.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
On from Kyler? He plays too much call of duty?
And how good is Seattle? They're kind of awesome?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
And no one wants to say that Sam Donald and
Daniel Jones are quarterbacking the two best teams in the league. Yeah,
that might be what's happening the local receiver, Oh, Jackson
Smith and Jick Yeah, maybe the best receiver in football.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
There's there's no reason, though, for everyone to act like
it's crazy that Sam Donald and Daniel Jones are good,
because they were supposed to be good and it's not
that uncommon for quarterbacks and bad situations. No, what's hard
on a young quarterback being on a team that sucks?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, like that ain't easy.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
So a guy like Dak was able to walk into
an amazing situation with no expectations. Guys that are picked
in the top three that go to horrible teams, everyone going,
why is this guy so well? I mean, he doesn't
know the league yet and there's a guy in his
nuts as soon as he snaps the ball that's hard
to be.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Good, and we're way too quick to give up on
those guys.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, oh, he's a bust, right, So you know, I
don't think it's outrageous that these guys are good.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
In better football situation.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Twenty twenty two Carolina Panthers are quite a story because
they had six starts from Baker Mayfield, six starts from
Sam Darnold, and five starts from a guy named PJ.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Walker, who just a guy.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
But you know, they don't end up there, and they
bounce around to two or three other places and they
stick somewhere.

Speaker 13 (40:48):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I mean, Daniel Jones is not that surprising to me
because he got out of New York. In the minute
you get out of New York, things go really good.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
There were things that when we played the Giants, there
were things that he would do. I'd be like, my god,
he's got a lot of ability, and then he'd turn
around and make it a horrible throw whatever. But he
is so athletic and made some ridiculous throws, So I
don't think it's crazy that he's good.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
So we do have Packers and Eagles for Monday Night
football tonight, and it's a little uh ironic because The
story that dropped yesterday was about a poison pill clause
that was put in the Cowboys trade when they traded
Michael Parsons. So the idea is that if the Packers
were to try to move Michael Parsons at any point

(41:31):
before twenty twenty eight, if they moved him to a
team in the division, the Eagles is who were all thinking, clearly,
if they they tried to move him in the division,
then the Packers would owe Dallas their twenty twenty eight
first round draft pick.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
So obviously the Packers would not trade him to the Giants, Eagles,
or Washington Commanders unless they got back a lot more
but in return. Also it was used on Kenny Clark.
So if the cow traded Kenny Clark to an NFC
North team Packers, Bears, Lions, Vikings, they would owe the

(42:06):
Packers their twenty twenty eight first round pick. So you
just cross your fingers and hope that Jerry remembers that
this cost happened, they don't do something crazy. That's funny
if even if he's traded back to the Packers, because
I'm like, I wanted to trade him back to the Packers.
I thought that might actually work at the deadline. I mean,
I guess now knowing this now, it wouldn't have worked.
But like the idea of him ending up back in

(42:27):
Green May makes a lot of sense. I don't see
how you have sixty million dollars in your defensive tackles
next year. No, and that's what you would have if
you have Kenny Clark. Oh so Diggie Zooa and Quentin Williams.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You had me.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
But also you could restructure Kenny Clark Steele if he
wanted to be a Dallas cowboy. His agent probably wants
him on the open market. But man, I've been thinking
a lot about your suggestion of playing a three four
just because of the types of players that we have
I think, I mean, you obviously have to have a
defensive coordinator that would be into that, but I think

(43:00):
like those are three really good players. I don't think
you would get run on and when the beauty of
the three four is that you the quarterback never really
knows where the outside pass rush is coming from. Like
Ezeraku would be a badass three four linebacker.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Ezraku, Sam Williams, Dante Fowler, James Houston all would be
great three four, and you know who would have been
a good three forty convincent would have been Marsha on Niland,
which sucks. And I that's the whole thing too, Like
Erofless could is he gonna make a big change in
a bye week? I don't know, And especially given like
something like that happens too, it doesn't wonder if it
makes you stop your plans for a second on making

(43:36):
some big changes. But Cowboys next Monday night against the
Las Vegas we have Packers Eagles tonight, all right?

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Coming up next?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
How your privacy could be violated while Christmas shopping this year?
That's benan skin show ninety seven point one the Eagle.
Let's give away those nine inch nails tickets for today.
They're coming in March American Airline Center. We have tickets
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(44:04):
The album is called Electric. Name the band. The first
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You're gonna win those tickets. Good luck everybody, But right
now it's time for this.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
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Speaker 7 (44:21):
Its featuring veteran news anchor Katie fun tweets.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Two stories to get to here. We'll start with what's
happening at Target.

Speaker 15 (44:33):
There is a new jolly requirement at Target. Store employees
now are required to smile. If they were within ten
feet of a shopper, they have to make eye contact
and wave or greet the customer, and if they're within
four feet, the employee should ask.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
If the customer needs help.

Speaker 15 (44:52):
Bloomberg reports this is part of a new guidance program
from Target with an incoming CEO.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Well, that explains it right there.

Speaker 15 (44:59):
Who is looking to make stores more hospitable?

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Do you guys think that Target is unhospitable when you've been.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
No, but uh, I don't know. I've never I've never
thought that. But I like the idea of having better
customer service. Like I'll give you an example of there's
a store that I love going to. It's best Buy, Okay,
And there's been times where I would go to best
Buy and it's almost impossible to get anyone to stop
and talk to you and get any help. And You're like,

(45:30):
I have money, I want to give it to you,
like even after you get what you're buying and there's
no one there to check like, And so I've noticed
they have really picked it up.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh good.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
And so I even complimented a manager the last time
I was in there. I was like, wow, man, has
there been some change, because it's great. I had multiple
people go, hey, do you need anything? So for whatever reason,
they must feel like they needed to make these take
these drastic measures.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
But I've never noticed it being bad there.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
My favorite bit is to put on khaki pants and
a red polo and Target and just on a wander
around see if anybody asked me if they need now.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
This reminds me of something. Were you going to say something?

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Well, I just think it's weird that they're making such
a big deal out of this. But I mean, it's
been a long time since I worked in retail, but
when I did, there were like phrases we had to
say to people who were coming in the store, that's
a big game last night, Like you had to do
it because you would have secret shoppers that would come
by and you never know, you know, and you would
get graded on how you were actually doing what you

(46:27):
were supposed to do. And I remember hating it at
the time because I didn't want to talk to people.
I was like, let me just fold close and just
stay in the back. But like you're supposed to talk
to the customer that.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Is, that is the irs auditor of retail, the secret shopper.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, what is there to like grade people?
What just reminded me of those I know of a
giant company, one of the biggest companies on earth. A
friend of mine, somebody I know, worked there, and on
his first day he was told at their corporate headquarters,
when you pass somebody in the hallway, make sure to
make eye contact and say hello or just greet him,

(47:03):
just you know, say something. Don't we don't we don't
want people just passing each other by. Adjust you're sack.
And he was notified on his first day, Hey, just
the heads up. I heard you passed by someone earlier
today and you didn't say hello, And he goes, why
just passed by them earlier? So I didn't know, I
need to do it again. They're like, if you don't mind,
it's so every time you should do it.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
And so that's weird.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
And that was not even front facing for customers or whatever.
That was internal chemistry at the workplace. That's odd.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I don't like how there's a lot of restrictions here
within ten feet. They have to smile at you within
four feet to ask you like, am I gonna have
to go to Target with the measuring tape being like, yes,
you're eleven feet away.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Don't be smiling at me while I'm just shopping.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
It is funny that they gave you an exact number.
Why wouldn't they just say close proximity?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
What is it to one feet? Or do they have
to give you a hug? What happens here?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
How do y'all? How do y'all? Why?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
I just know for me, the way I measure feet
and something like that is by am I a free
throwaway from this person?

Speaker 6 (48:03):
No?

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Okay, I'm fifteen feet at this link? Like, how does
the average person gauge four feet or ten feet if
you don't think about it in some sort of proximity
of a sport or something you played. I don't like
these rules for Target, you know. I don't like where
Target's going.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Right now. There's a Target commercial behind you on the
TV stand. Pretty much every time I go in there,
I mean Target's got it figured out. A pretty good
little store. It is a pretty good little store. They
should do. They should do some ads with Wimby like
you have.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
If you are within a Wimby of us, we are
going to give you a hug. And then they do
an aerial shot and Wimby's laying on the ground and
one person's head level, noother person's foot level. All right,
there you have it. There's a weekly weekday update coming
up next in the music news. What happened at the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this Saturday night. We'll
talk about it next.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, Okay, So the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
was Saturday night and the big induction ceremony and it
was on Disney Plus. And like what they do now
is they take it and run a very condensed version
of it around the holidays, yep, which I don't love.
So I watched it all streamed it. Let me make
sure I covered everything here. It started at four o'clock, okay,

(49:19):
so they know it's started at seven.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
They had we had a misprint and our iHeart email, Yeah,
ok because I was.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Like, what, yeah, call him out rad messick.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
So they opened with a tribute to sl Stone, which is,
you know he passed away, so you have questlove on
the drums. Stevie wonder Beck's playing guitar. Maxwell and Jennifer
Hudson come out flee on bass, just jumping around. One
of all these people is not like the other, and
it's Flea. He was the only shirtless one. Okay, he
did fumble his line on dance to the music, but

(49:50):
we're gonna let him. All he had to say is
I'm gonna add some bottom and he didn't get it out.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
It was very weird.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
So Mick Fleetwood comes out looking like Santa Claus and
he inducts a bad company. Bad Company had Ryan Adams
and Chris Robinson doing the singing. Though, Oh Chris Robinson's
a great choice to do Paul Rodgers. They've got very
similar voices. I feel like making love blah blah blah.
That's how the show starts. Wildcatter, Uh, Paul.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I don't know that I consider him a wildcatter because
he said he was more in the I don't want
to say in the pocket. That sounds rhythm, but he
didn't do the high reaches that wildcatters are known to do.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
There's a whole wildcat, wildcatter portion of.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Of the night, and we'll get to in a second. Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Missy Elliott inducted Sultan Peppa. They brought out in Vogue
and kid and play perfect.

Speaker 10 (50:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
That was really fun. And I was like sitting there going, man,
that's kind of lit like this. This is a long event,
so you want some energy towards the back. Was a
little nervous that we were a little top heavy there.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
When Sultan Peppa went up to do their speech, did
Dallas residence, Spenderella joined them on stage.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
She absolutely did bad ass, absolutely badass of course, no,
the whole Yes, I love it. Yes, And she is
the first female DJ and inducted into the rock and roll.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Oh that's kick ass. That's great.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know what's great about this is you have the
induction speech, you know from some legend, but then they
show you a ten minute, you know, short film of
the band's career and it's all so good. And I
think for most people they probably know them from what
a man, What a man, What a mighty good man
within Vogue. But you guys got to understand before you
were born. When Ben and I were going to spring
break in South Padre Island. There was no bigger song

(51:35):
than Push It. Oh no, I mean it was so massive. Yeah,
it was so massive.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
David Letterman inducted Warren Zevonne and the speech was really long,
but it was great. And then the Killers came out
and played Lawyers, guns and money. Okay, I'm gonna play
you a little David Letterman audio in the next segment.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
In the big finish cool Iggy Pop inducted the White Stripes.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Makes sense, I'm gonna play you some Iggy Pop audio
that you have to hear in the next segment, because man,
that was a wild ride of a speech.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Good lord, he's a real wild one, Kevin said.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Then Olivia Rodrigo and Feist play I Believe that We're
going to be friends, and then the twenty one Pilots
played seven Nation Army, and that's when it kind of
hit me. Man, some of these artists probably hate when
these people go out and do tributes to them, because
I tell you, I kind of am okay with all
of these artists.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I really like Five's twenty one pots.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
And it sucked like the twenty one Pilots made seven
Nation Army about themselves, had the cameras come in on
their face.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
They added a little piano part to it. Yeah, And
I was like, why, why why.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
I saw a lot of controversy on that, and they
were like, this is what artists do. You know, they
put their own spin on it. I'm like, not when
they're getting inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
My m thing of the night is tonight. It's not
about right, can I can? I? I think all this
is fair.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Let me just say I think the greatest moment in
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Fame history is
when Prince made while my guitar gently weeps about himself.
And I still think it's the greatest thing I've maybe
ever seen on stage. Sure, no one knew he was
doing it, and appeared on stage, he threw it down
a solo that made everyone weep, and then his guitar
disappeared into space and he was gone.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
It's also, Prince, I know, I know, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I'm with you. I'm just saying, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Donald Glover inducted outcast. By the way, I'm sorry Meg
White was not there. Donald Glover inducted outcast, Big Boy
performed with Killer Mike, Janelle Monet, Jesus Dude, She ruined,
Hey ya made it about herself on the planet Man
miss some lines. Tyler the Creator was great when he
came out. Andre three thousand was there and did the

(53:45):
speech but did not perform. It was kind of weird
that one of them would go perform.

Speaker 9 (53:50):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
He also cried in his speech.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Jim Carrey inducted Soundgarden, Taylor Momson did Rusty Cage, Brandy
Carlile Black Hole Sun, and then Chris Cornell's daughter Tony
sang Fell on Black Days Wow with one of the
heart Chicks.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah Wow, one of the Wilson's Wow Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Chapel Rone inducted Cidey Lauper. She did true Colors time
after time and girls just want to have fun. And
then Salt and Peppa came back out and Avril Levine
was there.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Was very weird.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Chapel Rone is wearing the weirdest thing to which everyone goes.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Honey tonight, it's just not about you. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
And then Brian Adams inducted Joe Cocker and this was
the wildcat portion of the night. But then a rate
lift Teddy swims all came out and then they ended
with with a little help from my friends. And that's
how the night end. How did you enjoy the wildcatterpart?
I was so tired and ready for it. I just
thought like outcast or Salt Bebo or the white Stripe should.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Have been at the end. And Samsel Lauper sucked the
life out of the room.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Oh my weather speech or just her And then well
the songs too, I mean true colors in time after time. Slow,
they're snoozers, but they're pretty so.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
But coming up next is the highlights portion, along.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
With another Romo gasm of the Week, Iggy Pop's speech
was insane and I have that for you, and and
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you were there on Saturday and said it was just unbelievable. Yeah,
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families out there having a great time.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
And then Saturday night. It was a free music show
and Paul Sadodi was there. I think that's his name.
Taylor Swift's guitarist and he has an Eagles tribute band
and a Tom Petty tribute band. So he did two
different sets and it was their first time to get
out and do shows together with that band and dude
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Speaker 2 (56:53):
But right now it's time for this kill. Big really big.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Told you that Iggy Pop did the speech for the
White Stripes, and I just basically pulled a montage of
his speech, the weird stuff from his speech. If you
hear another voice in there too. I also was also
had a separate file I was working on of pulling
every time someone mentioned Meg White's drumming by passively offending her. Okay,

(57:23):
just like accident. No one has played more simplistically like
all that type of stuff. It happened so many times.
So but this is the wild Iggy Pop speech and montage.
There will be drop scalore from this, Christina, I gotta
get this out.

Speaker 10 (57:38):
Of my system. Don't don't dn't dun't don't duh duh
dun dunt dun dug. I wrote a speech.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
That's more boring, all right, let me see if I.

Speaker 11 (57:59):
Can read he had some kind of fun secret, like
they stole some cookies from a cookie jar.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
They look really young. Is he turning into Bill Walton?
This us laugh cookie jar? They look really young. That's
the same guy he is laughing.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
He brings up a good point though, by the way,
about Seven Nation Army, you can make a strong argument
that it's the greatest riff in rock history.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Also that clip Jack White looked like he was tearing
up when the entire crowd started doing that along with him,
Like it's a really cool moment.

Speaker 11 (58:35):
Basically, I was looking at a twenty first century Adam
and Eve who had started a rock and roll band.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I thought, cute kids.

Speaker 11 (58:46):
They were probably gold places, and they did.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
They did gold places.

Speaker 11 (58:51):
They played with bands like the Goryes and the Dirt Bombs.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I love that vide Dirt Bombs. Yeah, have y'all heard
the Bombs?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
They're badass. They're a Detroit garage rock band. They're dope
like that. That's that was the thing that was happening
when they came up, was the revival of groag rock yall.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Y'all should check out the Dirt Bombs. You're pretty cool man.
I love the name.

Speaker 16 (59:13):
Yeah, Meg White, Meg White, Meg White, who is a
timeless beauty. Meg White, who gave her name to the group,
was a charismatic, naturally likable person.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I met her once. That's the story. Matter once story, dude, Jack,
I matter once.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Please understand that it is a miracle that you got
Iggy Pop to just get up there.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
And you know, Jack, is he wearing a shirt? Okay?

Speaker 11 (59:51):
Jack could screech like an owl, he could twin like
a hillbilly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
She played the drums for the benefit of her band.
She gave the drum kid a good whack. Just crazy.
He's right, she gave it a good whack.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
I mean, I don't know a lot about the band,
but my perception is always that Jack just like, no, just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Get back there and play drums. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Yeah, I mean that's the whole thing is Like she
was like, I want to be a drummer. He's like, no,
just kid, go play drums.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Will be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah, that's exactly what it was. And he liked the
idea of having two people in a band. He'd played
in tons of bands and bunch of people. He's like, well,
if we just had two also, probably just let him go.
Look I'm effing awesome. Okay, I'm a prodigy here which
he is. Put that back behind me. I don't make
it happen. This is another case of celebrities being unable

(01:00:51):
for a second to not make it about them. Jim Carrey,
he had a really good speech for Soundguard, by the way,
and you could tell he was a real fan. Now
he hosted Saturday Night Live with Soundguarden in nineteen ninety six.
But I didn't have Fire Marshall Bill on my bingo card.
I did WHOA he did?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
I remember? I said, what if Jim Carrey does the
speech as Fire Marshall Bill. He did say that. Well,
here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
After the show, they handed me what is to this
day one of my most prized possessions, the Fender Telecaster
Chris played.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
On the show, signed by the whole band.

Speaker 14 (01:01:24):
Pay no attention to the burn marks on the pit
guard someone backstage. You're playing with matches. That's what Brandon
Carlisle sounds like. Great, it was kind of cool too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
The whole Taylor Mom's the thing, and we talked about
it last week, But just the fact that she was
in The Grinch as the kid and came out into
the song and he did the speech, yeah, which I
don't know. Soundgard didn't have any ties to the Grinch movie.
I guess was that coincidence or on purpose? Probably on purpose, okay, yes,
And she was qualified to go sing their song She's
a Rusty Cage, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
So basically the idea is that whoever's going into the
Hall of Fame, they don't perform, and everybody comes out
as a tribute to them and performs their stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Well, they play if they're there, right, Okay. There's also
been bands that have been there that didn't play. Yeah,
and Soundgarden play just without Chris Cornell.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
It's usually like a bunch of people in a big
jam though, like they mix it all up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Well, Jack White was put in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
A position with Meg not doing it that it's weird
if he does it. He could have gone out and
played and someone playing the drums, but when you're a duo,
I mean it's like so it's like the outcast thing
was a little weird because because he's in the building.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Yeah, and you know, it's just kind of kind of strange.
That's kind of part of their dynamic. Though his big
boy has always been like, hey, that's my homie. I
know he's weird to everybody, but that's my homie. I
do me, he does he, and that's how we are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
David Letterman tells his quick Warren zevonn story and about
a guitar that Warren Zevon gave him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Austin. Sorry, the last time I saw Warren.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
He's got a guitar there that he's used every time
he's appeared on our show. He hands it to me
and he says, take care of this for me. So
for twenty two years, I have taken care of the guitar.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Tonight, that's going back to work.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I'm mine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Came to the killers. That's awesome. I'm a testarithmn. His
video was very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
But because I didn't know a ton about Warren Zyvon,
but I knew the David Letterman connection, but I forgot.
He went on his show to say that he's got
long cancer. That's the last show he ever played, was
not His last public performance was on Dave. I don't
know if that's efficient, but I think I thought it was,
but I could be wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:03:43):
And it is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
You know, in Dave's last forty days of shows too
on CBS and the Big takeaway. I mean he's like
interviewing even look he's up there and they show it
in the film and he goes, man, your life has
changed drastically. He talks about it, and the quote that
he said multiple times and Dave said multiple times to
speak enjoy every sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
That's what he learned.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
That's fantastic. That's incredible, great way to think about it.
So that's so good, very good. You can watch it
whenever you want to and wherever you want to get
it if you want to pay for it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Hey, Josey pluses raises and the prices though, so I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
The other takeaway, great things start in small rooms.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Oh yes, that was great. That was great.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
That was Andre's big takeaway quote, great things start in
small rooms.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Did Jack White say that too or something?

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I think he was setting yeah, because Alkas he was
like Jack, we love you man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah. And then so I don't know if that's exactly
what Jack said.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
There's a Jack speech was long too, So it was
like just you know, for context, when outcasts came out,
they were from the South and then there's this whole
New York hip hop aesthetic and they were all like,
well you didn't come up in the parks and all
this stuff. And Andre I don't want to butcher, but
actually had a rhyme about, hey man, we grew up
doing what y'all did. We just did it in apartment buildings.

(01:04:55):
You know, we drew we did it in our little
small room. He didn't say small rooms, but that was
the implying, like, hey, that was our envi man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
We weren't trying to do it. So it kind of
ties back to outcast history of getting booed when they
went to New York and all this stuff. So what
song did outcasts do? They did pretty much everything. So
they just let his verses out. No what they had
people out there to do, I mean his verses on them,
But they did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
They did.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Hey, I like the way you move the whole world.
They kind of went in order. They did Italians. Oh
what did they do after that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
That? They did? Miss Jackson? They would have to, I
mean that sound great, so they would have to. Yeah,
it was. It was good. It was really good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I thought they should have been last, honestly, because that
was like the party vibe type thing. They haven't played
together since twenty fourteen. Wow, ad gum, do you have
time for the remogasm of the how long is it
twenty second?

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Yeah, it's not really a gasm.

Speaker 7 (01:05:48):
Do it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
We don't have time. We'll do it tomorrow. I'm some time. Look,
you have to leave them once more.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
I'll never forget the time KT left us with blue ears.
He looked us dead in the eye, and he said
pretty much every.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Morning for breakfast, I have a protein chick. And it
changed everything. Short show, Christina, we got MAVs very short,
about an hour long.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
All right, hang with our homie for the next hour.
Right here on the eagle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
There you going.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
You're sorry, I'm going to get some cheeks after this
horse powerge alright, thank you enough.