November 13, 2025 • 6 mins
“How much of your life do you spend chasing something different—something better?” That’s the thought-provoking question Ben, Skin, KT, and Krystina dive into in this episode of The Ben and Skin Show. From career ambitions to the never-ending urge to move houses, the crew gets real about dissatisfaction, urgency, and why we’re wired to always want more.Skin shares hilarious stories about his family’s 15-year obsession with moving—even when it makes zero financial sense—and why Fort Worth might be the one place worth the hassle. Hear the iconic Billy Bob Thornton quote that perfectly sums up the city’s authentic vibe, and laugh along as the gang debates cowboy hats, Boot Barn sponsorships, and why some people just look like they were born to ride horses.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ben and Skin Show ninety one point one The Eagle,
thank you for hanging out with us today. We got
nine inch Nails tickets and we're gonna be giving them
away today at some point during the show. You gotta
be listening to win, so be ready to have that.
iHeart app ready to go, and as soon as we
give you the clue, you'll be down to boogie. Don't
forget Tomorrow we'll be given away our last pair of
(00:20):
nine inch nails tickets at the Pluckers and Mesquite from
three to six. But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Skin Is Track, another edition of things Skin Is Tracking.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How much Okay, here's something that the Nico fiasco has
taught us. How much of your life do you think
you spend expressing dissatisfaction and just searching for something different
than your current situation.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hmm, ponder that. Yeah, it's deep searching for dissatisfaction.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
No, no, you know, like I'm just satisfied with this.
I need to change it. Let's do this, let's go here,
let's do that.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, like my I my whole focus is like in that,
like with our careers, you know, and so I'm always
thinking about that in the big picture with like this
sense of urgency.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So that's kind of the same thing, right now, Yeah,
for sure. Yeah, And it's in every walk of life.
And I also think like, hopefully as you get older,
you get more mature and figure out ways to express
your dissatisfaction in ways it's not just throwing a tantrum
and like craping on everyone else around you. Like that's
the goal for all of us, right, but it's hard
for us as humans to not be emotional and be like.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm dissatisfied, I'm doing this now. Well.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
One of the things that me and the wife have
experienced this pretty much NonStop for the last fifteen years,
is wherever we're living, you know, we really need to
move out of here, Like I've lived in my home
in Alan. Alan is a great community, easy place to live.
My daughter's out of high school, my son's in his
senior year, and so we always used to joke, right
as soon as the kids graduate, we're kicking them out
(01:55):
of the house. We're downsizing and moving. And for a
while we talked about moving to Richardson, because I love Richardson.
We looked around it and looked at East Dallas, looked
at all these different places.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You looked at crime Riddle Lake Islands, crime.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Riddled Lake Islands, and I knew, as I can till
they change that football stadium to ram Wildcat, I'm not
going to move there. Which I brought that up on
a MAV broadcast the other day in honor of Trey Johnson,
the Lake Islands graduate who is now playing for the
Washington Wizards. But there is one place, you know, when
(02:28):
we do this all the time, we go in we
look at all these houses and other neighborhoods. Could we
afford that? And meanwhile, it'd be so dumb because I've
lived in Allen. It's a nice place to live, and
we have all this equity in our house, and all
we would do by moving is end up paying more
somewhere because of the way the market isn't losing all that.
You know, it just doesn't make sense, But we do
it all the time, starting over. And then Ben and
(02:50):
I had the roller Town Beer Works, our brewery that
we're partners in. Move closer to where I live, Like
I live closer to Rollertown than I did before, so
much so that my wife started looking at homes in Frisco.
Why would we do that, but no, there we go.
We're constantly doing this stuff. There is, however, one place
that I think that I would inconvenience myself greatly to
(03:14):
move there because I love it so much. And here
to say more about it is Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Tell me why fort.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Worth fits you so well? If I had to pick
a city in the United States that I belong in
where I feel comfortable and feel like, it's long as.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I grew up in Arkansas and Texas. My relatives were
all either in Arkansas or Texas, so I grew up
down here. If there's something about Fort Worth that's so
real that it just makes you feel like you're home,
And if I could shoot everything I do it what
Worth I would.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I love that quote so much because that's how I
feel about it now. I'm sure if I moved to
Fort Worth, I'd immediately be dissatisfied and start looking at
at homes and allen. But there is something about Fort
Worth that is so real it feels like home.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know how else to describe it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
This weekend, my wife and I are spending the night
at a hotel in the near South Side area because
our buddy Paul Shallda is playing with Midlake at Tulips.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
My buddy Luke Sardella.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Is spinning in the back room of the same place,
and it's all worked out, and so we're all excited
to go find a place to eat in fort Worth
and to spend the night in fort Worth and just
take in fort Worth.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I feel that way about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I don't know how else to describe it other than
the way Billy Bob Thornton described it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, and they as people always talk about Dallas being
the home of the twenty thousand dollars millionaire, right that
that kind of a vibe like La Junior a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yea plastic, It's kind of plastic and bake. Yeah. And
I say that with love and respect.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's our hometown where I'm from early and so h
but fort Worth has always been sold to me is
just like he sold it, very authentic, down to earth,
more humble. And the first boss I worked for my
first real job out of college, she was from fort
Worth and she just talked about how much she loved
it every day. And so I've always had nothing but
(05:10):
love for the eight one to seven on the front
row the baseline of mav games.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
There's four or five guys from Fort Worth that come
in all the time, and they always wear cowboy hats.
Now I think about the idea of wearing cowboy hat
the business world or whatever. I don't know that I
could ever wrap my own brain around it. But those
guys look like they're supposed to be wearing cowboys.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, does that make sense? Hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Like when me and my friends got into Yellowstone and
started wearing cowboy hats.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's the exact opposite of that. Yes, yes, But those guys, yeah,
you never questioned it.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Those guys might build a fence, ride a horse, right,
do something with their hands like, they probably wear gloves
and do cool stuff. When I wear a cowboy hat,
it just looks like, I don't know, you know, it's
kind of like when that fat mayor.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
From New York put on a baseball uniform. It just
doesn't look right. You know, you never called your wife Ma,
Chris Christy was yeah, great, Jerry fan, Yeah, they hang
out together.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So anyways, I just wanted to give some love to
the eight one seven, Uh, the place tulips I was
talking about. They do have our beer bin the big German,
So if you're coming out there, drink a big German
with me on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That sounds like fun.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And I do have a new cowboy hat anyways, I
do need to get a Bootbarn.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sponsor warts with me Saturday. Where your hat all right?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Coming up next, the new TV show that has everybody talking.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Don't miss this discussion. Next
Ben and Skin Show ninety one point one The Eagle,
thank you for hanging out with us today. We got
nine inch Nails tickets and we're gonna be giving them
away today at some point during the show. You gotta
be listening to win, so be ready to have that.
iHeart app ready to go, and as soon as we
give you the clue, you'll be down to boogie. Don't
forget Tomorrow we'll be given away our last pair of
(00:20):
nine inch nails tickets at the Pluckers and Mesquite from
three to six. But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Skin Is Track, another edition of things Skin Is Tracking.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How much Okay, here's something that the Nico fiasco has
taught us. How much of your life do you think
you spend expressing dissatisfaction and just searching for something different
than your current situation.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hmm, ponder that. Yeah, it's deep searching for dissatisfaction.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
No, no, you know, like I'm just satisfied with this.
I need to change it. Let's do this, let's go here,
let's do that.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Well, like my I my whole focus is like in that,
like with our careers, you know, and so I'm always
thinking about that in the big picture with like this
sense of urgency.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So that's kind of the same thing, right now, Yeah,
for sure. Yeah, And it's in every walk of life.
And I also think like, hopefully as you get older,
you get more mature and figure out ways to express
your dissatisfaction in ways it's not just throwing a tantrum
and like craping on everyone else around you. Like that's
the goal for all of us, right, but it's hard
for us as humans to not be emotional and be like.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm dissatisfied, I'm doing this now. Well.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
One of the things that me and the wife have
experienced this pretty much NonStop for the last fifteen years,
is wherever we're living, you know, we really need to
move out of here, Like I've lived in my home
in Alan. Alan is a great community, easy place to live.
My daughter's out of high school, my son's in his
senior year, and so we always used to joke, right
as soon as the kids graduate, we're kicking them out
(01:55):
of the house. We're downsizing and moving. And for a
while we talked about moving to Richardson, because I love Richardson.
We looked around it and looked at East Dallas, looked
at all these different places.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
You looked at crime Riddle Lake Islands, crime.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Riddled Lake Islands, and I knew, as I can till
they change that football stadium to ram Wildcat, I'm not
going to move there. Which I brought that up on
a MAV broadcast the other day in honor of Trey Johnson,
the Lake Islands graduate who is now playing for the
Washington Wizards. But there is one place, you know, when
(02:28):
we do this all the time, we go in we
look at all these houses and other neighborhoods. Could we
afford that? And meanwhile, it'd be so dumb because I've
lived in Allen. It's a nice place to live, and
we have all this equity in our house, and all
we would do by moving is end up paying more
somewhere because of the way the market isn't losing all that.
You know, it just doesn't make sense, But we do
it all the time, starting over. And then Ben and
(02:50):
I had the roller Town Beer Works, our brewery that
we're partners in. Move closer to where I live, Like
I live closer to Rollertown than I did before, so
much so that my wife started looking at homes in Frisco.
Why would we do that, but no, there we go.
We're constantly doing this stuff. There is, however, one place
that I think that I would inconvenience myself greatly to
(03:14):
move there because I love it so much. And here
to say more about it is Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Tell me why fort.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Worth fits you so well? If I had to pick
a city in the United States that I belong in
where I feel comfortable and feel like, it's long as.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I grew up in Arkansas and Texas. My relatives were
all either in Arkansas or Texas, so I grew up
down here. If there's something about Fort Worth that's so
real that it just makes you feel like you're home,
And if I could shoot everything I do it what
Worth I would.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I love that quote so much because that's how I
feel about it now. I'm sure if I moved to
Fort Worth, I'd immediately be dissatisfied and start looking at
at homes and allen. But there is something about Fort
Worth that is so real it feels like home.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't know how else to describe it.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
This weekend, my wife and I are spending the night
at a hotel in the near South Side area because
our buddy Paul Shallda is playing with Midlake at Tulips.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
My buddy Luke Sardella.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Is spinning in the back room of the same place,
and it's all worked out, and so we're all excited
to go find a place to eat in fort Worth
and to spend the night in fort Worth and just
take in fort Worth.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I feel that way about it all the time.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I don't know how else to describe it other than
the way Billy Bob Thornton described it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, and they as people always talk about Dallas being
the home of the twenty thousand dollars millionaire, right that
that kind of a vibe like La Junior a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yea plastic, It's kind of plastic and bake. Yeah. And
I say that with love and respect.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's our hometown where I'm from early and so h
but fort Worth has always been sold to me is
just like he sold it, very authentic, down to earth,
more humble. And the first boss I worked for my
first real job out of college, she was from fort
Worth and she just talked about how much she loved
it every day. And so I've always had nothing but
(05:10):
love for the eight one to seven on the front
row the baseline of mav games.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
There's four or five guys from Fort Worth that come
in all the time, and they always wear cowboy hats.
Now I think about the idea of wearing cowboy hat
the business world or whatever. I don't know that I
could ever wrap my own brain around it. But those
guys look like they're supposed to be wearing cowboys.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yes, does that make sense? Hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Like when me and my friends got into Yellowstone and
started wearing cowboy hats.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's the exact opposite of that. Yes, yes, But those guys, yeah,
you never questioned it.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Those guys might build a fence, ride a horse, right,
do something with their hands like, they probably wear gloves
and do cool stuff. When I wear a cowboy hat,
it just looks like, I don't know, you know, it's
kind of like when that fat mayor.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
From New York put on a baseball uniform. It just
doesn't look right. You know, you never called your wife Ma,
Chris Christy was yeah, great, Jerry fan, Yeah, they hang
out together.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So anyways, I just wanted to give some love to
the eight one seven, Uh, the place tulips I was
talking about. They do have our beer bin the big German,
So if you're coming out there, drink a big German
with me on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
That sounds like fun.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
And I do have a new cowboy hat anyways, I
do need to get a Bootbarn.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sponsor warts with me Saturday. Where your hat all right?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Coming up next, the new TV show that has everybody talking.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Don't miss this discussion. Next
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