November 12, 2025 • 6 mins
“What does it take for an 18-year-old to go chest-to-chest with Giannis and not flinch?” That’s the question Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray tackle in this high-energy episode of The Ben and Skin Show.The crew dives deep into Cooper Flagg’s breakout performance and why his fearlessness—even in the face of MVP-level talent—might signal a seismic shift for Dallas basketball. From dissecting his signature moment against the Bucks to debating his future comp (“Grant Hill meets Kawhi?”), this conversation is packed with bold predictions, basketball stoner thoughts, and hilarious tangents.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle. This
segment is brought to you by Frankelin Frankel Our guys.
They have been advocating for injury victims for three decades,
ninety years of experience between Mark, Scott and Gene. They
do such a great job because they care. They're gonna
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gonna get you the settlement that you deserve, called the
(00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Mals around the sports KTD twins as all the sports, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This wild did with the news of yesterday, we everyone
just kind of forgotten, skipped over the fact that Cooper
Flag played really good on Monday night.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He had a signature moment. I think he slipped more
than he got fouled on that turnover play. Agreed, But
the two minute report did say that it should have
been called a foul. Oh good, because what's his name,
Kuzmo's grabbing his jersey. But that probably happens on all
those plays.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I see those and play like that, and I'm like, okay, man,
every bit of it, every bit of this that happens,
is so healthy for him moving forward.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yes, he's learning, he's learning, he's learning.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I really do think that there's going to be a
change in the vibe in the atmosphere. And I do
think that, barring extended injury like Ad has, basically he's
supposed to come back tonight after two weeks. If you
go look at minor calf strains, they're two week injuries, right,
He's supposed to be coming back tonight. I think he's
(01:36):
coming back tonight. We'll see, but Fati stays on the floor.
The changes that kid has made. They finally put Brandon
frickin' Williams in the starting lineup like I've been saying
they should do, And I think they're going to start
winning some games. And as bad as things are, I
think they're a game and a half out of the
play in right now. And if they start winning games,
start getting momentum, they're gonna be in the playoff picture.
(02:00):
And one of the things that you were talking about earlier, Ben,
is you're talking about, you know, if they were to
blow things up, and that's going to be figured out
by a GM who comes into New GM. But the
reason that you tank is that you tank to get
a player like Cooper Flag and they've got that, and
(02:20):
so you know, you would always rather have your picks
and things like that. But I really think a year
and a half from now, it's not going to matter
that they don't have their picks. I think at worse
with Cooper Flag and the people they're able to put
around them without you know, having to tear the thing down,
they're going to be a good team. And what he's
going through right now is only going to serve to
(02:42):
make him. I mean, we're talking about a guy that'll
probably be by by the time they don't have their picks.
We're talking about a top fifteen player in the league.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So when he develops his body more he's eighteen, he's
a boy. When he develops his body and he's all
ripped and puts on some weight and all that stuff like,
And now that you've seen him play for quite a
few games, what is the comp for him if everything.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Goes just the way a mass fan would hope it
would go.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You know, I think somewhere between Grant Hill and is
there Now, I know I just threw out two guys
that were perpetually injured in their career, right right, right,
But when those guys were five players in the league,
I mean, Kawhi Leonard put an entire country on his
back and they won a championship. They had one year
to win a championship with Kawhi and he went and
(03:29):
did it. And so I mean, we're talking about very
very lofty expectations and goals, and I think him and Kawhi,
I'm sorry, him and Kyrie irving together is going to
be spectacular, like spectacular.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So watch the other night was so much fun. I
haven't watched him play in a while, and I just
kind of had forgotten. I know he's one of the
best players in the league, and i'd breed he always
hav an MVP season. Man, if he gets an inch
of space around somebody, he's dunking the ball on everyone.
He might dunk the ball in three shot blockers, like
he's so quick, and I know that's he's he's taller,
(04:06):
you know, than Coop. We talked about that, but sometimes
Coop attacks the rim with that ferocity, even on a rebound.
Sometimes like he is fearless when going in there to
try to dunk on people, and I just I can
see some of that. I know that's not who the
player he is, but I watching you, honest the other
night was surreal.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
What a beast.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It sucks that they had the fall down moment because
his signature moment of the year was at a critical
time in the game. He went directly into the chest
of Yannis he finished, and they did not call the
obvious foul on Yannis Yan It. We were talking about
it earlier in the game when it happened to Dwight Powell.
The guy went into his chest, his arms came down.
That is a foul by the letter of the law.
(04:45):
They did not call it because it's a rookie and
it's Yannis.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That should have been a and one. Yeah. I like
how he didn't complain.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'm not taking shots at Luca or anybody, but a
lot of superstars cry when they don't get a foul call.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeh. I haven't really seen that from him either.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
This might be a little basketball stoner thought here, but
let me tell us out here, because if you think
about Monday night and it being the last game that
Nico is employed, and if you are a believer and
things happen for a reason, then you would just have
to accept the fact that Kyle Kuzma is involved in
that last play because Nico tried to trade for Kyle Kuzma.
Giving up two more first round picks would have been
(05:22):
this year's first rump pick.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, they wouldn't have had p J and Gaffer.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Playing the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
If you want to put some of this on Mark
Cuban for selling the team to them, and just think
about how Mark Cuban might have gotten in the way,
a little bit of the getting the Greek fore he
got in the way, like if you want to go there,
and then Cooper flight is the same age is that
kid that we had on yesterday who's sitting next to
Patrick Dumont. It is kind of perfect and now it's over,
and it just everything did kind of fall into place
(05:48):
for a second.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Dude, my son will come walking in with his AirPods,
ignoring us and walk through the room and I'll turn
to my wife and I'll go he's nine months younger
than Cooper.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Fix crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That thing that just walked to here is nine much
younger than Cooper. Flag ponder that for a minute.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, his uh, his athleticism is impressive, and he gets
super low driven the ball and then just explodes to
the rim. He his left left, he's he is exciting
and every bit of this he's learning and growing and
is just going to get better and better and better. Yeah,
all right, coming up next, Uh, we got food news.
Dallas has been selected as one of the cities for
(06:26):
Guess What
And Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle. This
segment is brought to you by Frankelin Frankel Our guys.
They have been advocating for injury victims for three decades,
ninety years of experience between Mark, Scott and Gene. They
do such a great job because they care. They're gonna
help you get to medical attention you need, and they're
gonna get you the settlement that you deserve, called the
(00:21):
Frankeles First chosen by the people and feared by the
insurance companies. Be listening for your chance to win nine
inch nails tickets. But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Mals around the sports KTD twins as all the sports, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This wild did with the news of yesterday, we everyone
just kind of forgotten, skipped over the fact that Cooper
Flag played really good on Monday night.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He had a signature moment. I think he slipped more
than he got fouled on that turnover play. Agreed, But
the two minute report did say that it should have
been called a foul. Oh good, because what's his name,
Kuzmo's grabbing his jersey. But that probably happens on all
those plays.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I see those and play like that, and I'm like, okay, man,
every bit of it, every bit of this that happens,
is so healthy for him moving forward.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yes, he's learning, he's learning, he's learning.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I really do think that there's going to be a
change in the vibe in the atmosphere. And I do
think that, barring extended injury like Ad has, basically he's
supposed to come back tonight after two weeks. If you
go look at minor calf strains, they're two week injuries, right,
He's supposed to be coming back tonight. I think he's
(01:36):
coming back tonight. We'll see, but Fati stays on the floor.
The changes that kid has made. They finally put Brandon
frickin' Williams in the starting lineup like I've been saying
they should do, And I think they're going to start
winning some games. And as bad as things are, I
think they're a game and a half out of the
play in right now. And if they start winning games,
start getting momentum, they're gonna be in the playoff picture.
(02:00):
And one of the things that you were talking about earlier, Ben,
is you're talking about, you know, if they were to
blow things up, and that's going to be figured out
by a GM who comes into New GM. But the
reason that you tank is that you tank to get
a player like Cooper Flag and they've got that, and
(02:20):
so you know, you would always rather have your picks
and things like that. But I really think a year
and a half from now, it's not going to matter
that they don't have their picks. I think at worse
with Cooper Flag and the people they're able to put
around them without you know, having to tear the thing down,
they're going to be a good team. And what he's
going through right now is only going to serve to
(02:42):
make him. I mean, we're talking about a guy that'll
probably be by by the time they don't have their picks.
We're talking about a top fifteen player in the league.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So when he develops his body more he's eighteen, he's
a boy. When he develops his body and he's all
ripped and puts on some weight and all that stuff like,
And now that you've seen him play for quite a
few games, what is the comp for him if everything.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Goes just the way a mass fan would hope it
would go.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You know, I think somewhere between Grant Hill and is
there Now, I know I just threw out two guys
that were perpetually injured in their career, right right, right,
But when those guys were five players in the league,
I mean, Kawhi Leonard put an entire country on his
back and they won a championship. They had one year
to win a championship with Kawhi and he went and
(03:29):
did it. And so I mean, we're talking about very
very lofty expectations and goals, and I think him and Kawhi,
I'm sorry, him and Kyrie irving together is going to
be spectacular, like spectacular.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So watch the other night was so much fun. I
haven't watched him play in a while, and I just
kind of had forgotten. I know he's one of the
best players in the league, and i'd breed he always
hav an MVP season. Man, if he gets an inch
of space around somebody, he's dunking the ball on everyone.
He might dunk the ball in three shot blockers, like
he's so quick, and I know that's he's he's taller,
(04:06):
you know, than Coop. We talked about that, but sometimes
Coop attacks the rim with that ferocity, even on a rebound.
Sometimes like he is fearless when going in there to
try to dunk on people, and I just I can
see some of that. I know that's not who the
player he is, but I watching you, honest the other
night was surreal.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
What a beast.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It sucks that they had the fall down moment because
his signature moment of the year was at a critical
time in the game. He went directly into the chest
of Yannis he finished, and they did not call the
obvious foul on Yannis Yan It. We were talking about
it earlier in the game when it happened to Dwight Powell.
The guy went into his chest, his arms came down.
That is a foul by the letter of the law.
(04:45):
They did not call it because it's a rookie and
it's Yannis.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That should have been a and one. Yeah. I like
how he didn't complain.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'm not taking shots at Luca or anybody, but a
lot of superstars cry when they don't get a foul call.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeh. I haven't really seen that from him either.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
This might be a little basketball stoner thought here, but
let me tell us out here, because if you think
about Monday night and it being the last game that
Nico is employed, and if you are a believer and
things happen for a reason, then you would just have
to accept the fact that Kyle Kuzma is involved in
that last play because Nico tried to trade for Kyle Kuzma.
Giving up two more first round picks would have been
(05:22):
this year's first rump pick.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yes, they wouldn't have had p J and Gaffer.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Playing the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
If you want to put some of this on Mark
Cuban for selling the team to them, and just think
about how Mark Cuban might have gotten in the way,
a little bit of the getting the Greek fore he
got in the way, like if you want to go there,
and then Cooper flight is the same age is that
kid that we had on yesterday who's sitting next to
Patrick Dumont. It is kind of perfect and now it's over,
and it just everything did kind of fall into place
(05:48):
for a second.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Dude, my son will come walking in with his AirPods,
ignoring us and walk through the room and I'll turn
to my wife and I'll go he's nine months younger
than Cooper.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Fix crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That thing that just walked to here is nine much
younger than Cooper. Flag ponder that for a minute.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, his uh, his athleticism is impressive, and he gets
super low driven the ball and then just explodes to
the rim. He his left left, he's he is exciting
and every bit of this he's learning and growing and
is just going to get better and better and better. Yeah,
all right, coming up next, Uh, we got food news.
Dallas has been selected as one of the cities for
(06:26):
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