February 18, 2026 • 6 mins
“What happens when your new pasta‑sauce business partner suddenly shows up over 600 times in the Epstein files?”
That’s the jaw‑dropping, conversation‑stopping question that kicks off this segment of The Ben & Skin Show — featuring Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray. This episode begins innocently enough — with KT breaking down the wild idea of Jimmy Fallon and legendary music executive Tommy Mottola co‑branding their own pasta sauce. But when the newly unsealed Epstein files drop, the whole plan falls apart in a spectacularly absurd way.
That’s the jaw‑dropping, conversation‑stopping question that kicks off this segment of The Ben & Skin Show — featuring Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray. This episode begins innocently enough — with KT breaking down the wild idea of Jimmy Fallon and legendary music executive Tommy Mottola co‑branding their own pasta sauce. But when the newly unsealed Epstein files drop, the whole plan falls apart in a spectacularly absurd way.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one. The Eagle
is Texas Barbecue going away. What stick around for the
details in fifteen minutes, but right now it's time for this.
Are you excited?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And gets turn Sweet Day Day featuring veteran news anchor
kt fon tweets Ken, do you have the ability to
tell everyone quickly about who Tommy Mattola is?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Tommy Mattola the record executive. Yes, if I remember correctly,
he was married to Mariah Carey, that's true for ninety
three to ninety eight, and she was just a little baby.
I mean it was like he was a big record executive.
There's all this mergers and stuff and so I don't
know if he started with Sony, but he was a
big record executive and oversaw major careers and is one
(00:50):
of those movers and shakers on a level, maybe even
higher than Quincy Jones, just to give you perspective. He's
one of the big music executives of the last forty years.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So he is also really good friends with Jimmy Fallon,
and they would be seen paling around going to Italian
restaurants in New York all the time, and even a
post you know, within the last couple of months of
them hanging out an Italian restaurant and they were planning on,
uh getting together. And you know what, what if we
(01:23):
co branded our own pasta sauce and put that out
to market, that could be good because Jimmy fallon, Tommy Mottola.
Everyone wants pasta that similar to those guys. I guess
it's not that different than the Prego, a very weird
name for an Italian sauce or for a pasta sauce.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Prego it's for gals that are carrying. So you know, hey, dude,
this is the Paul Newman playbook. Paul Newman had an
empire of salad dressings and red sauce and all that stuff.
So the problem is.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You're getting ready to get this out to market and
then the Epstein files drop, at least some of them.
There's still more than have not and probably won't see
the light of day. But what we do know, one
of the unredacted names out there is Tommy Battola, who
has mentioned over six hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Times in the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And if you go to jmail, like I've spent a
lot of time there over the last month, a lot
of back and forth. Emaiales, how you been Give me
a call, Give me a call, pout. I was thinking
of building a house on the island. All kinds of
crazy stuff. So Jimmy Fallon's like, E, we better not.
(02:42):
Let's just know, we'll say no.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So is Fallen in there too? Or just this guy?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, So Jimmy Fallon, as I'm typing it in there now.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
He's in there. Eleven times he's in there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But it's not like direct correspondence with Epstein.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Somebody could be just mentioning his show and he's in there.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And it's also I think there's emails where Tommy Mottola says, hey, man,
I can get fall into the island, and Matola's all along.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's been like, dude, I My correspondence with Epstein was
like he would hit me up for concert tickets like
everyone does now, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well, so to me, he doesn't even need to say that.
That's kind of phony. Tommy Mottola is a huge executive
with tons of money, and if you're a huge entertainment
executive or real estate person with tons of money on
the level he's at, you cross paths with Epstein Epstein
was one of the most prominent global financiers of the
(03:39):
last one hundred years, whether it had anything to do
with what was going on on his island or not.
If you were an influential person that had money, you
rubbed elbows with him. Right, I'm sure there's a ton
of people who are mentioned in the files that weren't,
you know, trying to go there for kids, right right.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
There's no doubt. And that's what most of it is. Honestly,
that's what most of it is.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And that's what Trump is saying, That's what Barack Obama
is saying. Both of those guys are all over those files.
Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton. Bill Bill and Hillary might have
a different thing. They're gonna talk next week. The problem
for Bill is he has pictures in a hot tub.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, yeah, but he's got in multiple you can't prove
it was on the island. He's in so many hot tubs. Yeah,
you know, in general across the problem I think, to me,
like one name that I've got a bit of a
problem with. Okay, yeah, I'm gonna zoom in on one
person here, but it is interesting to me is old
Katie Currk. Because Epstein did go to jail for bad things? Yeah,
(04:37):
involving underage in Florida. Yes, in like, oh wait, so
people are going to dinner with him in twenty ten.
I'm like, come on, yeah, it's like did you enable
Matt lower.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
A little bit there too? Like there's a lot to
think about there once that's happened. How how could you
not know that? Yeah, they have to know. They did know.
They just were willing to have access to the influence
and the money. Like a a lot of people will
prioritize the influence and the money and the power over
how people behave. And that's what a lot of these
(05:07):
people are guilty of or complicit of. Is all right,
I know you did that, but man, you could change
my life with your influence, power and money. So much money,
so much much money.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So there it is no pizza sauce or pasta sauce
from Fallon in Motola. I was looking forward to it.
I said, real quick, make it a twenty second thing.
But Mariah Carey got a divorce from Matola, and uh,
there's a clip going around of Michael Jackson at a
concert and he's like, stop filming me, No, you know what,
(05:40):
keep filming me, I want this out there, and talks
about how Mariah Carey came to Michael Jackson and was
saying that Tommy Mottola is a horrible person. He was
recording me like he was, you know, would not let her.
He's maene controlling her.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, basically, And that's that's been out there. Kat. What
I'm saying is is, like, you know, for follons, like
oh my god, it's a it's a cultural touch point,
but like it's kind of common that Tommy Mottola is
not a good dude. Yeah, you know, I mean all
that Mariah Carey stuff. She was very young and not
only did he marry her when she was very young,
he could control her entire career. Yeah, so he's well,
(06:18):
I won't be having pasta tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
There you have it. There's a weekly weekday update coming
up next in food news, back to some other food.
Could Texas barbecue be going away? Please say no. We'll
talk about that next
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one. The Eagle
is Texas Barbecue going away. What stick around for the
details in fifteen minutes, but right now it's time for this.
Are you excited?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And gets turn Sweet Day Day featuring veteran news anchor
kt fon tweets Ken, do you have the ability to
tell everyone quickly about who Tommy Mattola is?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Tommy Mattola the record executive. Yes, if I remember correctly,
he was married to Mariah Carey, that's true for ninety
three to ninety eight, and she was just a little baby.
I mean it was like he was a big record executive.
There's all this mergers and stuff and so I don't
know if he started with Sony, but he was a
big record executive and oversaw major careers and is one
(00:50):
of those movers and shakers on a level, maybe even
higher than Quincy Jones, just to give you perspective. He's
one of the big music executives of the last forty years.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So he is also really good friends with Jimmy Fallon,
and they would be seen paling around going to Italian
restaurants in New York all the time, and even a
post you know, within the last couple of months of
them hanging out an Italian restaurant and they were planning on,
uh getting together. And you know what, what if we
(01:23):
co branded our own pasta sauce and put that out
to market, that could be good because Jimmy fallon, Tommy Mottola.
Everyone wants pasta that similar to those guys. I guess
it's not that different than the Prego, a very weird
name for an Italian sauce or for a pasta sauce.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Prego it's for gals that are carrying. So you know, hey, dude,
this is the Paul Newman playbook. Paul Newman had an
empire of salad dressings and red sauce and all that stuff.
So the problem is.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You're getting ready to get this out to market and
then the Epstein files drop, at least some of them.
There's still more than have not and probably won't see
the light of day. But what we do know, one
of the unredacted names out there is Tommy Battola, who
has mentioned over six hundred.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Times in the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And if you go to jmail, like I've spent a
lot of time there over the last month, a lot
of back and forth. Emaiales, how you been Give me
a call, Give me a call, pout. I was thinking
of building a house on the island. All kinds of
crazy stuff. So Jimmy Fallon's like, E, we better not.
(02:42):
Let's just know, we'll say no.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So is Fallen in there too? Or just this guy?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, So Jimmy Fallon, as I'm typing it in there now.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
He's in there. Eleven times he's in there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But it's not like direct correspondence with Epstein.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Somebody could be just mentioning his show and he's in there.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
And it's also I think there's emails where Tommy Mottola says, hey, man,
I can get fall into the island, and Matola's all along.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's been like, dude, I My correspondence with Epstein was
like he would hit me up for concert tickets like
everyone does now, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Well, so to me, he doesn't even need to say that.
That's kind of phony. Tommy Mottola is a huge executive
with tons of money, and if you're a huge entertainment
executive or real estate person with tons of money on
the level he's at, you cross paths with Epstein Epstein
was one of the most prominent global financiers of the
(03:39):
last one hundred years, whether it had anything to do
with what was going on on his island or not.
If you were an influential person that had money, you
rubbed elbows with him. Right, I'm sure there's a ton
of people who are mentioned in the files that weren't,
you know, trying to go there for kids, right right.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
There's no doubt. And that's what most of it is. Honestly,
that's what most of it is.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And that's what Trump is saying, That's what Barack Obama
is saying. Both of those guys are all over those files.
Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton. Bill Bill and Hillary might have
a different thing. They're gonna talk next week. The problem
for Bill is he has pictures in a hot tub.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, yeah, but he's got in multiple you can't prove
it was on the island. He's in so many hot tubs. Yeah,
you know, in general across the problem I think, to me,
like one name that I've got a bit of a
problem with. Okay, yeah, I'm gonna zoom in on one
person here, but it is interesting to me is old
Katie Currk. Because Epstein did go to jail for bad things? Yeah,
(04:37):
involving underage in Florida. Yes, in like, oh wait, so
people are going to dinner with him in twenty ten.
I'm like, come on, yeah, it's like did you enable
Matt lower.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
A little bit there too? Like there's a lot to
think about there once that's happened. How how could you
not know that? Yeah, they have to know. They did know.
They just were willing to have access to the influence
and the money. Like a a lot of people will
prioritize the influence and the money and the power over
how people behave. And that's what a lot of these
(05:07):
people are guilty of or complicit of. Is all right,
I know you did that, but man, you could change
my life with your influence, power and money. So much money,
so much much money.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So there it is no pizza sauce or pasta sauce
from Fallon in Motola. I was looking forward to it.
I said, real quick, make it a twenty second thing.
But Mariah Carey got a divorce from Matola, and uh,
there's a clip going around of Michael Jackson at a
concert and he's like, stop filming me, No, you know what,
(05:40):
keep filming me, I want this out there, and talks
about how Mariah Carey came to Michael Jackson and was
saying that Tommy Mottola is a horrible person. He was
recording me like he was, you know, would not let her.
He's maene controlling her.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, basically, And that's that's been out there. Kat. What
I'm saying is is, like, you know, for follons, like
oh my god, it's a it's a cultural touch point,
but like it's kind of common that Tommy Mottola is
not a good dude. Yeah, you know, I mean all
that Mariah Carey stuff. She was very young and not
only did he marry her when she was very young,
he could control her entire career. Yeah, so he's well,
(06:18):
I won't be having pasta tonight.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
There you have it. There's a weekly weekday update coming
up next in food news, back to some other food.
Could Texas barbecue be going away? Please say no. We'll
talk about that next
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