May 13, 2025 • 7 mins
“Have we ever seen a white boy with this much hype?” That’s the question that kicks off one of the most electric and passionate episodes of The Ben and Skin Show to date.
Join Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray as they ride the emotional high of the Dallas Mavericks landing the #1 pick in the NBA Draft—an outcome with just a 1.8% chance—and securing the rights to Cooper Flagg, the most talked-about prospect in years.
Ben’s late-night YouTube rabbit hole of Cooper Flagg highlights: “I didn’t even want to go to sleep.”
Skin’s jaw-dropping take: “I don’t remember in my lifetime a white boy with this much hype.”
Kevin Garnett’s raw, unfiltered praise: “We ain’t had no badass, cold ass white boy like this in a long time.”
This episode is a celebration of hope, hype, and hoops—a must-listen for Mavs fans and basketball junkies alike. Whether you're here for the analysis, the laughs, or the KG quotes that can’t be aired on daytime radio, this one delivers.
If this episode fired you up, made you laugh, or sent you down your own Cooper Flagg rabbit hole, subscribe now, leave us a review, and share this episode with your crew. The Mavs are back, and so are we.
Join Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray as they ride the emotional high of the Dallas Mavericks landing the #1 pick in the NBA Draft—an outcome with just a 1.8% chance—and securing the rights to Cooper Flagg, the most talked-about prospect in years.
Ben’s late-night YouTube rabbit hole of Cooper Flagg highlights: “I didn’t even want to go to sleep.”
Skin’s jaw-dropping take: “I don’t remember in my lifetime a white boy with this much hype.”
Kevin Garnett’s raw, unfiltered praise: “We ain’t had no badass, cold ass white boy like this in a long time.”
This episode is a celebration of hope, hype, and hoops—a must-listen for Mavs fans and basketball junkies alike. Whether you're here for the analysis, the laughs, or the KG quotes that can’t be aired on daytime radio, this one delivers.
If this episode fired you up, made you laugh, or sent you down your own Cooper Flagg rabbit hole, subscribe now, leave us a review, and share this episode with your crew. The Mavs are back, and so are we.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've been in Skin Show ninety seven point one the Eagle.
(00:02):
We got all kinds of stuff to get into, uh
all throughout the show. But right now we're still talking
about just the crazy improbability that the Mavericks for the
first time in their history went up in the lottery,
and not only that, defied the odds and the one
point eight percent chance of landing the number one pick
in a year where a generational type talent is the
(00:24):
number one pick. Cooper Flag out of Duke he is
an absolute badass. Have you have you watched him play much? Dude?
I spent all I didn't want to go to sleep
last night. All I did was go look up Cooper
Flag highlights. I watched hours of it. Yeah, and it's
funny because you know, you're watching him against college guys.
He's listed at six nine two twenty. He looks to
(00:47):
be six' ten to, me but you, know and the
other thing is he's not going to be nineteen Until,
december so he still might be. Growing and he's got
a seven foot one wingspan and crazy. Ups he's great family,
skills can shoot like he do. Everything he's a great defensive.
PLAYER a lot of people think his defensive acumen is
further along than his offensive acumen at this. Point But
i'll tell you my favorite. Highlight this is so and.
(01:09):
This you'll see this if you go look Up cooper flag.
Highlights he's in some game and he gets some steal
and he's almost at half court and he gets. This
he gets to, steal and most guys that are six'
nine at that point. He's got when he got, to
steal there was a smaller guard that was right in
front of him to, his right and he's on the
(01:30):
left side of, the court and most big guys, would go,
ALL right i got. The steal let, me wait let's
bring the. Offense up i'm not going to try to
get by. This guard he smoked. That guard he was like, see,
you yeah and just flew by him at. Full speed
and then there was a big at the rim and, he,
Said oh i'm gonna dunk on your soul and then
(01:50):
he just. CRUSHED it i, was like what it's, like
that he's awesome as, a Prospect and i'm trying to
sorry to make, it THIS but i was sitting HERE
think i don't remember in my lifetime a white boy
with this MUCH hype i don't even know who it.
Would be, and dude. And, hype, okay now how do
(02:11):
you mean? The, hype okay maybe hype's not. The word
this highly regarded. A prospect there's Been, like luca not
really it, was different Right because luca didn't wasn't an.
Absolute number i'm going. NUMBER one i mean it probably.
Should have it just depended on who. You were the, other,
thing too is like we're conditioned to watch college players
(02:32):
and get opinions, of them where when a guy is
coming Over from Europe and i'm talking about going into,
the draft like we all Know what, dirk Was but
dirk went, number, nine right, you know and Then when dirk,
was drafted everyone, was booed. You know so It's like i'm,
talking about you're coming into the draft and you're a
white boy and you're not a stiff center from, The
(02:53):
EIGHTIES like i don't even remember what that. Would be
because Even When, Larry Bird larry bird went back to
college After being celtic's property because of the way the
hardship rules were. Back then so IT'S just i DON'T
really i was sitting, THERE thinking i, WAS like i
don't KNOW that i ever remember a white boy with this. Much,
Hype ever chet was. Hyped Up, Chet holmgren chet was.
(03:16):
Hyped up, YOU know i think. That's fair but also
like there was Fear with chet because of. His frame
yet me keep In mind chet was on a team
where his teammate Was The national player of, the Year
Threw Timmy now. Holmegrin's hyped don't get. Me wrong, you're
right he's, very hyped but he wasn't like he wasn't
even the number. One pick but it's, It's, RIGHT okay
(03:39):
i see what. You're SAYING but i think the interesting
thing to me going Down the cooper flag rabbit hole
is what a dog. He is like he loves, to
compete like he is vicious in terms of being. A
COMPETITOR and i heard people talking about they knew people
who watched him practice and, they, go dude relentless. At
practice you never seen anybody work this hard at, A
(04:02):
practice like he's gonna try to beat your ass if
you're running ladders up and down, the court like he's
gonna try to. Win it like he's that type of
a tone setter on, a team just like like, that's,
it Dude, For nico this is a dream. Come true
it's a guy who plays defense and works his, ass
off and it's just a straight. Up dog we didn't
Pull To kevin garnette. On you let's Listen To kevin
(04:22):
garnett talk, about HIM because i think if you don't
know the History Of, kevin garnett he is a legendary.
Trash talker like there's A story i'll say, this right
we talked about this on. The air there's a Story
Where kevin Garnett and dirk used to go at it
and hate each Other And Dirk kevin Garnett fouled Dirk
And Dirk kevin garnett Turned To paul pierce, and said
(04:44):
did you? Hear that he called me the? End Bomb
And paul, pierce, said man you know he didn't call. You,
That Like kevin garnett is just a world class, trash
talker fight. With everybody listen to what he's. Saying About
Watching cooper flag in The WITH, team Usa.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Seeing cooper flag PLAY against, nba Players like i've literally.
Seen it you've. Seen it i'm not going off. Of
that but THEN what i saw was a great test
of what it's gonna take to be able to build
this level when it comes to being. THE leader i
think he saw the exposure he's gotten in. High school
he's used to leading. The team he's used to, the
attention he's used to walking to the gym and people
knowing who. He is that superstar him that. Follows, you
(05:22):
yeah he got he got superstar. AROUND him i can
see kids wanting to be like that and play. Like
that you Know what, i'm saying like, Real talk LIKE
when i see him, Move like, i'm, like okay well
he had, no badass coal ass, White boy like there's a.
Long time i'm. Just saying that's, Also real like this
my you?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Feel me did you guys watch that Him AGAINST. Team,
usau yeah it's my favorite highlight. To, watch yeah wait,
a minute what you didn't hit? That Three or rady.
Just fearless there was a when, that kids that clip.
Came out but it's been about a year now or,
ten months eleven months, like THAT and i remember watching, that, going,
DAMN man, i mean this guy's gonna have a. Great
(05:59):
year there's a lot Of high but if they're saying
this stuff, about, him now? What wow what a Prospect
that it never once occurred to me that he might be.
A math. It's incredible it is. A gift i don't
this goes down as one of the greatest moments in.
Our lives if you, love sports this is one of
the greatest moments of. Your life if this happens to
your team and you're supposed to have the eleventh pick
and you get the number one pick in a year
(06:21):
that It's like shaquille O'Neill or zion or.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Ad like.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That's what this is a generational talent and you just
moved up. Ten, spots yeah our x was killed in
a crazy Accident, in february but we found a. New
love this is what's. Gonna be we're all gonna fall
in love with. This, guy yeah and D why i'm
so happy that those reports are coming out that they
(06:46):
will not entertain. Trade offers, they're good they're not gonna
because that's the that's a scary thing and it's hard
to trust them when they just Traded. With luca but
now that, that's out that's. Fantastic news he's not. GOING
anywhere i don't think he's. Going anywhere and, you know
maybe later in the show we'll talk about What the maverick. Should.
Do next, all right coming. Up next what are some
things you're tracking Today's, SKIN well i got something. For
(07:09):
you there's something Happening In fort worth that begs, the
question what's the best thing to do? While drinking we'll
talk about that next
I've been in Skin Show ninety seven point one the Eagle.
(00:02):
We got all kinds of stuff to get into, uh
all throughout the show. But right now we're still talking
about just the crazy improbability that the Mavericks for the
first time in their history went up in the lottery,
and not only that, defied the odds and the one
point eight percent chance of landing the number one pick
in a year where a generational type talent is the
(00:24):
number one pick. Cooper Flag out of Duke he is
an absolute badass. Have you have you watched him play much? Dude?
I spent all I didn't want to go to sleep
last night. All I did was go look up Cooper
Flag highlights. I watched hours of it. Yeah, and it's
funny because you know, you're watching him against college guys.
He's listed at six nine two twenty. He looks to
(00:47):
be six' ten to, me but you, know and the
other thing is he's not going to be nineteen Until,
december so he still might be. Growing and he's got
a seven foot one wingspan and crazy. Ups he's great family,
skills can shoot like he do. Everything he's a great defensive.
PLAYER a lot of people think his defensive acumen is
further along than his offensive acumen at this. Point But
i'll tell you my favorite. Highlight this is so and.
(01:09):
This you'll see this if you go look Up cooper flag.
Highlights he's in some game and he gets some steal
and he's almost at half court and he gets. This
he gets to, steal and most guys that are six'
nine at that point. He's got when he got, to
steal there was a smaller guard that was right in
front of him to, his right and he's on the
(01:30):
left side of, the court and most big guys, would go,
ALL right i got. The steal let, me wait let's
bring the. Offense up i'm not going to try to
get by. This guard he smoked. That guard he was like, see,
you yeah and just flew by him at. Full speed
and then there was a big at the rim and, he,
Said oh i'm gonna dunk on your soul and then
(01:50):
he just. CRUSHED it i, was like what it's, like
that he's awesome as, a Prospect and i'm trying to
sorry to make, it THIS but i was sitting HERE
think i don't remember in my lifetime a white boy
with this MUCH hype i don't even know who it.
Would be, and dude. And, hype, okay now how do
(02:11):
you mean? The, hype okay maybe hype's not. The word
this highly regarded. A prospect there's Been, like luca not
really it, was different Right because luca didn't wasn't an.
Absolute number i'm going. NUMBER one i mean it probably.
Should have it just depended on who. You were the, other,
thing too is like we're conditioned to watch college players
(02:32):
and get opinions, of them where when a guy is
coming Over from Europe and i'm talking about going into,
the draft like we all Know what, dirk Was but
dirk went, number, nine right, you know and Then when dirk,
was drafted everyone, was booed. You know so It's like i'm,
talking about you're coming into the draft and you're a
white boy and you're not a stiff center from, The
(02:53):
EIGHTIES like i don't even remember what that. Would be
because Even When, Larry Bird larry bird went back to
college After being celtic's property because of the way the
hardship rules were. Back then so IT'S just i DON'T
really i was sitting, THERE thinking i, WAS like i
don't KNOW that i ever remember a white boy with this. Much,
Hype ever chet was. Hyped Up, Chet holmgren chet was.
(03:16):
Hyped up, YOU know i think. That's fair but also
like there was Fear with chet because of. His frame
yet me keep In mind chet was on a team
where his teammate Was The national player of, the Year
Threw Timmy now. Holmegrin's hyped don't get. Me wrong, you're
right he's, very hyped but he wasn't like he wasn't
even the number. One pick but it's, It's, RIGHT okay
(03:39):
i see what. You're SAYING but i think the interesting
thing to me going Down the cooper flag rabbit hole
is what a dog. He is like he loves, to
compete like he is vicious in terms of being. A
COMPETITOR and i heard people talking about they knew people
who watched him practice and, they, go dude relentless. At
practice you never seen anybody work this hard at, A
(04:02):
practice like he's gonna try to beat your ass if
you're running ladders up and down, the court like he's
gonna try to. Win it like he's that type of
a tone setter on, a team just like like, that's,
it Dude, For nico this is a dream. Come true
it's a guy who plays defense and works his, ass
off and it's just a straight. Up dog we didn't
Pull To kevin garnette. On you let's Listen To kevin
(04:22):
garnett talk, about HIM because i think if you don't
know the History Of, kevin garnett he is a legendary.
Trash talker like there's A story i'll say, this right
we talked about this on. The air there's a Story
Where kevin Garnett and dirk used to go at it
and hate each Other And Dirk kevin Garnett fouled Dirk
And Dirk kevin garnett Turned To paul pierce, and said
(04:44):
did you? Hear that he called me the? End Bomb
And paul, pierce, said man you know he didn't call. You,
That Like kevin garnett is just a world class, trash
talker fight. With everybody listen to what he's. Saying About
Watching cooper flag in The WITH, team Usa.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Seeing cooper flag PLAY against, nba Players like i've literally.
Seen it you've. Seen it i'm not going off. Of
that but THEN what i saw was a great test
of what it's gonna take to be able to build
this level when it comes to being. THE leader i
think he saw the exposure he's gotten in. High school
he's used to leading. The team he's used to, the
attention he's used to walking to the gym and people
knowing who. He is that superstar him that. Follows, you
(05:22):
yeah he got he got superstar. AROUND him i can
see kids wanting to be like that and play. Like
that you Know what, i'm saying like, Real talk LIKE
when i see him, Move like, i'm, like okay well
he had, no badass coal ass, White boy like there's a.
Long time i'm. Just saying that's, Also real like this
my you?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Feel me did you guys watch that Him AGAINST. Team,
usau yeah it's my favorite highlight. To, watch yeah wait,
a minute what you didn't hit? That Three or rady.
Just fearless there was a when, that kids that clip.
Came out but it's been about a year now or,
ten months eleven months, like THAT and i remember watching, that, going,
DAMN man, i mean this guy's gonna have a. Great
(05:59):
year there's a lot Of high but if they're saying
this stuff, about, him now? What wow what a Prospect
that it never once occurred to me that he might be.
A math. It's incredible it is. A gift i don't
this goes down as one of the greatest moments in.
Our lives if you, love sports this is one of
the greatest moments of. Your life if this happens to
your team and you're supposed to have the eleventh pick
and you get the number one pick in a year
(06:21):
that It's like shaquille O'Neill or zion or.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Ad like.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
That's what this is a generational talent and you just
moved up. Ten, spots yeah our x was killed in
a crazy Accident, in february but we found a. New
love this is what's. Gonna be we're all gonna fall
in love with. This, guy yeah and D why i'm
so happy that those reports are coming out that they
(06:46):
will not entertain. Trade offers, they're good they're not gonna
because that's the that's a scary thing and it's hard
to trust them when they just Traded. With luca but
now that, that's out that's. Fantastic news he's not. GOING
anywhere i don't think he's. Going anywhere and, you know
maybe later in the show we'll talk about What the maverick. Should.
Do next, all right coming. Up next what are some
things you're tracking Today's, SKIN well i got something. For
(07:09):
you there's something Happening In fort worth that begs, the
question what's the best thing to do? While drinking we'll
talk about that next
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