May 13, 2025 • 3 mins
Was the NBA Draft Lottery rigged to reward the Mavericks? That’s the question lighting up the airwaves on this electric episode of The Ben and Skin Show, where Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the most outrageous—and hilarious—conspiracy theories surrounding the Mavericks’ miraculous leap from the 11th pick to landing the #1 overall selection.With just a 1.8% chance, the Mavs defied the odds and secured the rights to draft generational talent Cooper Flagg. But was it pure luck… or part of a master plan? The crew breaks down the wild speculation. This episode is a rollercoaster of sports talk, satire, and sharp wit—perfect for fans who love their basketball with a side of chaos and comedy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Ben and Skin Show will be there, The Woody
Show will be there. Hell, maybe Teresa will be there.
I haven't talked to her about it, but it's a
big party Memorial Day weekend, May twenty fifth out there
at dose Eki's Pavilion.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Gonna be a blast.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Get your tickets at ticketmaster dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Wait is it ticketmaster dot commor livenation dot com?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm probably both of them back? Okay, Ticketmaster's safe.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Uh. If not, I'm wrong, and I apologize. We'll see
you at BFD. But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Now, let's go around the sports KTU tweets as all
the sports Ye right.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Was it rigged? Was it rigged?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
How did the Mavericks get the number one pick in
the draft? They had a one point eight percent chance
of getting it? Was it rigged?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I think it's more outrageous that the top three picks
were the Mavericks, the Spurs, and Philadelphia than just the
Mavericks alone getting the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
But the but people around the country are like, all right,
doesn't make sense why the MAVs would trade Luca to
La They did not get a return. They got six
years older. If they'd shopped him, they would have got
way more. This is the league trying to help the Lakers.
So the conspiracy people are like putting on their tenfoil
hats and that's what they see.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And then they see the MAVs go from eleven to one.
They're like, Okay, the league promised them Cooper Flag.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, I mean if that's if that's the conspiracy and
that's what you want to lean in and lean in on,
that's fine, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
What has to happen is you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Have to be willing for Kyrie Irving to be in
on it and sacrifice his knee in order to make
that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, why not?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I wouldn't because it just would make sense if you're getting,
if you were promised a number one pick in this
next round, and that's including Cooper Flag, then not getting
anything in return, like you're technically getting that in return
for Lucas.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Okay, but for me it makes sense. No, I get it.
But how do how does Kyrie Irving's knee injury factor
and it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm not including that at all. That was just a
very unfortunate thing that happened to Kyrie There's.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No way the Mavericks would have not made the playoffs
if Kyrie Irving hadn't have blown his knee out, and
that happened to month after the trade.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So what I'm saying is, if.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You want to go in on a conspiracy in which
the Mavericks agreed to move Luca to La and exchange
for the number one pick, they had to figure out
a way for Kyrie Irving to blow his knee out.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Cause they said, you will give you the number one
pick and the next lottery you're in, right.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Because again the Mavericks, remember they were in the play
in scenario, So then Memphis has to be in on
it too. And the genius part of this conspiracy is
that Anthony Davis was in on it and still drop
forty in the final game to make it look like
they were competitive.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like, all right, man, but don't ruin our fun conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
You do realize very much that it doesn't matter I
do how much logic you lay out.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, if this is what a lot of people think, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Guy, some guy hit me out. Was like, you need
to find a new sport. The NBA is rigged. I
was like, the NBA is a league.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
There's a business.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's a league, man, It's not a sport like I
can go watch the Wings play right now. Basketball is
a sport. It's the NBA is a league. But hey, man,
I get it. We live in a world where we
need everything to be a conspiracy to justify the unexploitable.
And that's why in the movie Magnolia, frogs fall from
the sky.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
All right, Well, we'll get back into the Cooper flag
situation at five point forty. That's our big finish today.
Don't miss that. But coming up next. Everybody loves talking politics,
so let's talk politics DFW.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's next.
The Ben and Skin Show will be there, The Woody
Show will be there. Hell, maybe Teresa will be there.
I haven't talked to her about it, but it's a
big party Memorial Day weekend, May twenty fifth out there
at dose Eki's Pavilion.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Gonna be a blast.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Get your tickets at ticketmaster dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Wait is it ticketmaster dot commor livenation dot com?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm probably both of them back? Okay, Ticketmaster's safe.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Uh. If not, I'm wrong, and I apologize. We'll see
you at BFD. But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Now, let's go around the sports KTU tweets as all
the sports Ye right.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Was it rigged? Was it rigged?
Speaker 5 (00:37):
How did the Mavericks get the number one pick in
the draft? They had a one point eight percent chance
of getting it? Was it rigged?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I think it's more outrageous that the top three picks
were the Mavericks, the Spurs, and Philadelphia than just the
Mavericks alone getting the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
But the but people around the country are like, all right,
doesn't make sense why the MAVs would trade Luca to
La They did not get a return. They got six
years older. If they'd shopped him, they would have got
way more. This is the league trying to help the Lakers.
So the conspiracy people are like putting on their tenfoil
hats and that's what they see.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And then they see the MAVs go from eleven to one.
They're like, Okay, the league promised them Cooper Flag.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, I mean if that's if that's the conspiracy and
that's what you want to lean in and lean in on,
that's fine, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
What has to happen is you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Have to be willing for Kyrie Irving to be in
on it and sacrifice his knee in order to make
that happen.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
No, why not?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I wouldn't because it just would make sense if you're getting,
if you were promised a number one pick in this
next round, and that's including Cooper Flag, then not getting
anything in return, like you're technically getting that in return
for Lucas.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Okay, but for me it makes sense. No, I get it.
But how do how does Kyrie Irving's knee injury factor
and it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm not including that at all. That was just a
very unfortunate thing that happened to Kyrie There's.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No way the Mavericks would have not made the playoffs
if Kyrie Irving hadn't have blown his knee out, and
that happened to month after the trade.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So what I'm saying is, if.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You want to go in on a conspiracy in which
the Mavericks agreed to move Luca to La and exchange
for the number one pick, they had to figure out
a way for Kyrie Irving to blow his knee out.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Cause they said, you will give you the number one
pick and the next lottery you're in, right.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Because again the Mavericks, remember they were in the play
in scenario, So then Memphis has to be in on
it too. And the genius part of this conspiracy is
that Anthony Davis was in on it and still drop
forty in the final game to make it look like
they were competitive.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like, all right, man, but don't ruin our fun conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
You do realize very much that it doesn't matter I
do how much logic you lay out.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes, if this is what a lot of people think, yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Guy, some guy hit me out. Was like, you need
to find a new sport. The NBA is rigged. I
was like, the NBA is a league.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
There's a business.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's a league, man, It's not a sport like I
can go watch the Wings play right now. Basketball is
a sport. It's the NBA is a league. But hey, man,
I get it. We live in a world where we
need everything to be a conspiracy to justify the unexploitable.
And that's why in the movie Magnolia, frogs fall from
the sky.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
All right, Well, we'll get back into the Cooper flag
situation at five point forty. That's our big finish today.
Don't miss that. But coming up next. Everybody loves talking politics,
so let's talk politics DFW.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's next.
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