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Speaker 1 (00:01):
When you need wisdom and advice. Seek out a guru
when you need wisdom and advice about remodeling and design.
Lock on and listen right now to Nick the construction Gluru.
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You just talk eleven thirty wsn Nick the Construction Guru.
I have a returning guest. I'm excited about this because, well,
you guys do something that nobody else does. I have
Derek Johnson here from Trees on the Move. Derek, thanks
for coming in on a Sunday. Tell us a little
bit about Trees on the Move. I think everybody knows
your trucks, but Yeller tell us what happens and how
it goes.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I mean, Trees on movement around for a long time,
almost fifty years now, and we do everything under the sun. Basically,
we do residential, we do commercial, we do irrigation, we
do concrete, we do tree work. We do just anything
that you need done in your backyard. We can get
it done for you. The process is easy. You give
us a call and you'll get hooked up with a
designer or an architect, depending on what your needs are,
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and we go through the process, two or three different meetings,
make sure everything is exactly how you want it. Then
we give the proposal, you do the work with us.
Then that design process and everything is absolutely free because
the price of that comes off on the proposal. So
it's a nice easy thing and everything's covered by trees
on the move, no subcontractors.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
We just get it done.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Is there anybody else moving big trees like you're moving.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I've seen a couple of spades here and there, but no,
we are the largest spade operator in all of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And I know that in some of the subdivisions. As
a matter of fact, I think there's a couple in
New Berlin that you guys are dropping some trees in.
I saw some trucks out there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So a lot of the new bills are being built
on old farmland, which means that it's been cleared up
trees and you guys can actually come in. I always
hate it when you look at these great, big, you know,
million and a half dollar homes and then there's tiny tree. Yes, yes,
but you guys can actually restore that back to.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh yeah, we can make it to where it looks
like it everything's been there for twenty twenty five years.
We also, you know, when it comes to those like
remodeling stuf because a lot of people are remodeling now.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Or you want to build a.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Garage and you have this beautiful oak tree or this
beautiful spruce tree, and you want to keep it, so
we'll come out, we'll spade it, we'll move it thirty
feet to the left or wherever you want. I think
that's one of the big things that our spade truck's
doing now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Derek, what's the survival rate on a big tree?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Big tree? Eighty ninety percent?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really? Yes, really, and so you really don't have to
worry too much about it. Is eric better time to
do it than others?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think spring is always the best to plant trees,
but we can do it year round. Evergreens we don't
do in the late fall or in the winter time
just because you can't get them enough water. But for
the deciduous trees, as long as we can break through
the ground, the frozen crust isn't too deep, and we'll
get it done no matter what.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Interesting, And it's also interesting because I imagine a lot of
people do think more in spring, so that sit conducive
for you guys to have big sales.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh yeah, most definitely, we have huge sales. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right now we're doing our big fall sale, so we're
just trying to empty the lot. Most of those are
for above ground, but we do have a tree clearing sale.
The tree clearing sale is the things that are still
planted in the yard and when they're still planted, those
are our spade trees. We keep them planted until the
owner wants it, and then we dig it and.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So they're out of the ground the least amount of
time that, yes, sir, okay, just half an hour at
most times. Okay, not very long. So is there a
big selection?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
There's a huge selection.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We have over four thousand trees above ground and we
got a couple thousand in ground.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, And tell us about where it is where people go,
how do they set that up if they want to treat.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We are at fifty six eleven South Calhoun and New Berlin.
You can either just stop on in or you can
give us a call at two six two six seven
nine fifty two hundred, or of course you can reach
us on the web trees on themove dot com.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What's the biggest tree right now that you haven't. You know,
if somebody wants to, I mean a big tree, what's
the biggest you can get?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So with the spade truck. The only bad thing is
is like a twenty five footer is probably the tallest.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
We can get.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's a big tree.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's a huge tree. Yes, yes it's pretty big. But
you don't have to apologize for that. Well, some people
want to see like these big forty foot trees moved,
and we can't do if it's on property. You can't
go a little bit bigger than the twenty five foot
You can't get it on the road because it blocks
your window.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Some gotcha.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So it's just not safe.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay. But so right now you can get twenty five
maximum twenty five foot trees put in your yard. This
is a good time to do it. It's a great
time to do it. Yeah, I know that through experience,
you know, tree trimming and all of that. There's very
specific times that that should be done, in very specific
times that it should not be done, right, yes, sir,
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mostly so. I imagine it's the same with planting that you know,
there's certain like you said, certain like not no evergreens,
now not a good right.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, that's mostly just because of water.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
When it comes to pruning, they want you to do
the majority of that in the winter time because the
bugs are gone and the diseases aren't out there as much.
When it comes to planting, you don't really have those
when it comes to deciduous trees, so we put them
in all the way up till Christmas. Sometimes we're putting
in plants in January February, depending on what the frost
and the winter's like. So nowadays it doesn't get super
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cold up you know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I just thought of this because you said Christmas, a
tree would be a great gift, wouldn't it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
For sure? Is it?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Are there people that come in and do that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
There are a lot of people that'll come and buy
like an eight foot spruce or whatever, and they'll put
it in their house and water it in a bucket
until springtime and then they go plant it and say
that was our Christmas tree of that year.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
So a lot of people do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, And you can put them in your planters outside
as well and then just leave it out there until
spring and then get it in the ground and takes
care of both.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So tell me how tell me how the design process
works for landscaping. I know that in our business, you know,
we create a design. I think we do it kind
of like you do. You pay for the design, but
it comes off when you do it, Yes, sir, exactly.
So tell us a little bit about how that works.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well. I mean, I guess the best way for us
to start is if you have a plata survey. We
get that plata survey, and then we go out and
we do our own field measurements, make sure everything's correct,
and mark out where all the trees and sheds and
all that stuff is, and then we just listen to you.
You know, that's the most important part about being a
designer is listening to the client because everybody has different
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thoughts on what looks good.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And so sometimes those thoughts aren't good ideas right, Sometimes
they're not, and you need a professional to let you
know that. You know what, you know, what I see
the big I'm sorry to interrupt, but the biggest mistake
I see made is in these new houses. They get
these little decorative trees, yep, and they plant them real
close to them, super close. Yes, guess what fifteen years
from now?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yep, you got to pull that tree out exactly. Yeah. Yes,
it's a big waste. It's a waste of the tree
too close together to it.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yes, all the time, all the time, especially these evergreens,
because when you're playing a spruce and they say, oh,
I want to block my neighbors, so they put eight
feet apart from each other. Well, both of those trees
are going to get thirty feet wide in the long run,
so it doesn't make it nice for the tree. It
makes it pretty ugly after ten years.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. And I think you know it's hard because it
looks pretty sparse if you do it correctly. I know
this from experience. Okay, I've done the arbibitis to block things. Yep,
and you're exactly what you're saying. They grow up and
they're all intertwined and they're all, yeah, it's good. Where
if you would have just left the space. The problem
is when you do it, the spaces look like they're
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too big for the little trees right.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well they do.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But we have a great way to conquer that is
there's beautiful grasses that you buy for twenty dollars each,
so not much money, but they get ten feet tall.
So when you put in your evergreens and you need
that spacing. Leave those grasses for the first three years,
and then they were so cheap. Pull them out, put
them somewhere else on property, or throw them away if.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You don't need them anywhere else. Yeah, so you still
get the screen.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's where a designer comes in, right, yes, sir. So
you know it's it's like when we design. It's similar
to when we design like a lower level. You know,
if the kids are younger, they want to have playrooms
and stuff like that. But I always say, what is
it going to be ten years from now. Let's let's
design it so that you can you can do it yourself.
You can change the purpose of that yourself. It's kind
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of the same thing with landscaping, right, Let's design it
so you're not having to pull things out when.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It matures, right, Yes, sir, most definitely.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah. So it's are you doing a lot of new
subdivisions right now?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We're doing a lot of new subdivisions.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yes, all over the place, you know, Delafield, down in
Lake Geneva, We're in the Racine area.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We're kind of all over the place that.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I see it. Like I said, in New Berlin,
there's some some really upper scale, nice subdivisions, and I
see big trees going in and that just enhances the
whole value of the property, because when you're sitting on
a postage stamp and everything, you got all these little
trees in this humongous house. It's almost disheartening, it really is.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And then when you have the new buyers coming in
looking at him and they say, oh, there's no shade
for my kids, and you know, it's nice having big trees.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It just looks good.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, you got this big grass area that was a
farm field, and you know it was a farm field.
So I don't know if you want to talk about
this or not, but I always like to ask these
things because I think this is what makes people worry.
You know. They're like, oh, it's all great, you know,
like when we talk to Dean Popedo with the water features,
it's all great, but they think it's going to be
very expensive. And I always like to talk a little
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bit about price because I think that people have this
thing in their head where they think it's just out
of their reach, like this is a rich band sport,
am I right?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, No, people definitely think that way, and in some
ways it is true, Like, yes, things have skyrocketed, and
you know, prices of materials on everything is more expensive.
But when you get a designer in there, he knows
what the cheaper plants are that look just as nice,
he says, the more expensive plant you're looking at, he
knows what type of patio pavers will still look beautiful
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with your house.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But I'll save you, you know, five dollars a square foot.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
So it's just knowing the materials and knowing what you
can put in to get the look you want at
the least amount of cost.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So if you're looking, if you're looking at an acre
lot with a relatively large home on it, I'm saying,
I mean, I hate to say this, but I've been
looking at houses. The average house is like seven to
fifty Now.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
There really is, yes, and it's not even that big.
And you neighbors ten feet away.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
If you would have said seven hundred and fifty thousand,
I mean even ten years ago, I'd be like, that's
that's now.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
That's movie star stuff, right, Yes, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But that's and I know I know a lot of
younger people that are looking at three hundred and fifty
thousand dollars homes and going I'm going to have to
stick sixty seventy thousand dollars into it. So, I mean,
prices have skyrocketed. But if you if you decide that
you're going to do a complete let's say you build
a house on a farm field yep, which many are,
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and you want to appoint it nicely with tree, shrubs
and landscape. Is there a ballpark number that are a
percentage that people should be thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, it's really hard to say a percentage, but
I would say if you're going on the cheap end,
you're at twenty k. If you're going on the more
expensive end and you're up to one hundred to two hundred.
It really depends on what you're looking for as far
as and if you need any walls, because your grade
really changes.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So you're talking a complete landscape complete, Nate, I was
just saying for it, so that, Yeah, that doesn't surprise
me at all. But I'm just saying, if you know,
if you want to, let let's we got to take
a break, Derek, but when we come back, let's explore
this a little bit more. Because I think these are
the questions that people have, and I know it's uncomfortable
sometimes to talk about it, but it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right, yeah, and people want to know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, all right. We will return after these messages with
Trees on the Move on News Talk eleven thirty WISN
News Talk eleven thirty WISN Nick the Construction Go a
returning from break listen. If you're thinking about a remodeling project,
give us a call. You can reach us on the
web at ink dot com or at our phone number.
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We actually have a phone number that gets answered. It's
just amazing. My father's going to be ninety three. He
is at the office every day. He loves to talk
with people, and people love talking with him. And give
us a call at two six two five six seven
twenty five hundred. Kerzner is the only company in Wisconsin
in our industry to win the Better Business Bureau Torch
Award for Ethics and Integrity three times. So if you're thinking,
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even if you're just thinking, give us a call. We'd
love to come out and talk to you. If you're
just tuning in, I have a returning guest. These guys
are fascinating to me and I know that the lion
SHERI of you out there have seen their trucks going
down because it's it's such It's like when you see
the military, okay, or you see the tanks on flat
business stuff you do, or or classic cars. When you
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see trees on the move going down the road with
a gigantic tree in the spade, that's a memorable experience.
And I think you guys, you guys were the guys
for me that pioneered this. I don't know if you
were the first in the business, but the first time
I saw it, I was like, holy cow. Cow wasn't
the word I used, but it's the word I used.
So the FCC doesn't come after me. But I'm like, wow,
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that is that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It is And that's something you know when you're passing by,
you can see the parents look, look and showing the
kids this spade tree.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It is a really neat thing.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And yeah, we've been doing it for forty seven forty
eight years now, so we were one of the first
ones around here to get out there and buy the
Spade trucks and start doing it.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is that How long have those machines been around?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I want to say the first Spade was quite a
while ago, Like twenties or thirties.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Wow, you know why I asked, Because I have these.
I live on on a street called Oakshire. Okay, because
we have these, I know they're over one hundred years old.
They're the oaks that are way up in the air,
all twisted up, you know, yes, right, yes, sir, And
I love them, so I build around them. I do
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not move them. When I look at those those kinds
of trees. That's it's fascinating to me. Because a friend
of mine told me in California they will pay up
to one hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars
for a mature oak tree, you know, movie stars and
stuff like that. Yes, yes, and they said they have
to dig. At that time, they had to dig all
the way around it and then put logs and cables
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to Does that sound familiar to.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You, Well, they actually still do that all these huge trees.
You can't do that spade on those trees. So yeah,
they cut it like a square and they go like
five feet deep, and they get it up on rollers
and they have to roll it so you can't move
it very far. But it's an amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I actually saw any of that.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
We do not. There's not I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Think there's any companies around here.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Probably not at all, in right, right, not at all. No.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Another thing I didn't know, which is just tree history,
is in Arizona, palm trees are not an indigenous plant.
All of them were brought in from California. I didn't
know that.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, that's amazing how they do that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, So, I mean there's tons of palm trees in
Arizona now, but never until right we brought them in.
It's pretty amazing to me. So there's a lot to
learn about trees. Are there some trees that just shouldn't
be planted here? I mean, obviously palm trees, But are
the trees that shouldn't be planted in Wisconsin?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I mean that they are planting.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I mean they are planting, and it really depends on
where you put them, because there's a lot of beautiful
like the smaller, more delicate Japanese maples. A lot of
people say you shouldn't plant them here, But if you
put them in a courtyard and you nestle them in
a corner and you put stuff around it so it
is blocked, then yes, you.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Can put them here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I have one and it does well.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It all depends on how you maintain,
how you take care of stuff and get it ready
for winter.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So that's another thing I think that you know, when
you were talking about designers, and we're gonna we're not
going to avoid the question that we went to before break,
because I still want to talk to you about money
a little bit more because it's fascinating. I know everybody
gets uncomfortab when we talk about money, but it's important
to know because that's going to define kind of who
your audience is, right right. There are people that simple
they can't afford to do this, and there are people
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that think that it's way more than it is. And
I like to let people know what it is. But
when you're looking at the trees, it's good to have
a designer because I would guess that they can probably
tell you this is not a good place for that
particular tree, this is a better place for this tree.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Most definitely, they can tell.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You what kind of longevity you're going to get out
of it, what you're paying for your buck.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, and there's a lot of existing trees, like say
the black walnut. Ninety percent of plants can't be planted
anywhere underneath that canopy, and it's a great big canopy,
so you really need to know what you can and
can't do there.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You know, it's funny you bring that up, because that's
exactly for me. It's not so much what's growing underneath.
It's the fact that I can't get any damn internet up.
But yeah, you know, it's fascinating when you go to
up north Wisconsin and you really look at what's going
on because the trees. Our area is completely open at
the bottom, yep, but there's a They're all fighting for
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that sun, so they keep growing up higher and higher. Yes,
they don't get as big around and all their energy
into going up and the canopy. I love it. It's gorgeous.
We don't have to run air conditioning ever, and the
sun shines in between it. But that's a concern too,
because if you want to block something, you want certain
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trees to do that. Yes, and black walnuts are pretty
hardy too, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They're super hardy. Yeah, it's really hard to kill them.
It's the birch trees that aren't so hardy right there.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I think it's the birch trees are because we don't
put them near the water that they want.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You know, the birch trees are water lovers, So if
you don't have it near an underground source of water
or anything like that, then you just got to make
sure you water it enough, gotcha, And nature you just
find them along rivers and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That's what they know.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I never knew that because up north, again we have
birch growing right in the middle. It just depends on
what bird east right. So, but those are the ones
that seem to have the most difficulty with the tall
canopies because they're all leaning all of a sudden and
then they fall over. And but we have a ton
of aples yep. Yeah. And maple is a hardy tree, right.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
A maple is a hardy tree. They are a soft wood, so,
and they also have a little bit more uh leafs
and seed pods and things like that than other trees.
So if you don't like to do cleanups, I would
stay away from a maple and go for more of
a hardwood that holds its leaves for longer, and you
don't have the big drop and you don't have as
many seeds and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Another thing that may be common knowledge and I'm just
an idiot or I just found out acorns are cyclical.
There's good years and big years for acorns, right, yes, yes, sir,
And that's a that's a big cleanup too.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
That's a huge cleanup.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yes, yes, you step on one of those with a
flap flop.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So talking to a designer, I mean, they're beautiful trees,
don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that maintenance is
a concern too, especially if you have an acre lot.
That stuff's got to go either on your on your
ground or your neighbor's ground. Right, so, right, So you
a designer is going to be able to help you
and say that these are like remember willows. Yes, I
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don't see many willows anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I don't. We still plant some.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I love them. They're beautiful, but they're dirty.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
They're super dirty, and they're really really soft, so they're
kind of a hazard. It's actually funny. When I was younger,
I climbed a willow tree and one of the big
branches that was probably sixteen inches around. You wouldn't think
it would break on a ten year old kid. It
broke and I fell down, broke my jaw again.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
That's why you're in a shape like that. Yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I didn't want to ask, but no, I get it.
I remember across the street from us we had a
gigantic willow and it was it's beautiful when the wind's blowing.
They're just very graceful in that. But again, I have
learned suber lessons with planting trees on my lot. When
the plant, when not the plant, when to prune, when
not to prune. And it gets expensive if you don't
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learn it from somebody who knows it. Rather, you know
that right that self teaching stuff gets real expensive, real quick.
I know that a small tree in a pot, I
don't know the galons, but something that I can physically
put on my truck that can be two hundred dollars
for a tree.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And that's one thing you know that people don't realize
is Okay, so you go to a place and you
look at a tree, it costs you three hundred dollars.
A commercial company they get it for like fifty percent
off less than that. And then when we do our markup,
our markup is just our common markup. And then we
charge you for the labor and there'll be Sometimes you'll
go and you'll look at a tree and you'll say,
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I want this tree. And then you say, okay, I'm
gonna call Trees on the Move and tell them I
want that tree. Our price planted and installed and warrantied
is not much more than the price you're gonna pay
for just picking the darn thing up and doing all
the work yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I completely agree with you. But more than that, Derek,
I think the big thing for me is the warranty
because if you plant it yourself. Now you know the
garden centers have warranties. Don't get me wrong, Yeah, but
sometimes it's a hassle trying to get it covered because
they didn't do something right. They can't control how it
went in. But I do know that when you guys
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plant something, you have How long is a warranty?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
We talked to one year warranty, so you go through.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The four full seasons. If something's going to happen to
that tree because of planting, it's going to happen in
the first year.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
To be honest, If something's going to happen because of planting,
it's going to happen in the first couple of weeks.
Plants don't just automatically go bad. And that's something that
you know when somebody builds a new home and they're
not knowledgeable about landscaping, and all of a sudden, a
whole lot of their stuff is dead no matter who
puts it in. You can usually look at the maintenance
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aspect of it. It's usually the maintenance is the reason
why your stuff is not doing as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You can't just plant it in one way, right.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
No, exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And once it's planted, it's up to you to make
sure you maintain it and water it and do all
the things, because you got to think about it that
especially trees. Those trees have been around for ten to
fifteen years before they get to your house, so they're
obviously not a bad tree. They just need the tender
love and care because they have through a move.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
They're going to go through some trauma with the move,
yes exactly, and so you got to try and just
like with any living creature, you're going to have to
have to mitigate that to a certain extent. I know that,
you know, watering instructions are very important. You know, I've
I've planted a couple of trees, the small trees. Okay,
not not the kind of stuff you guys do, but
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that's what they told me, you know. And sometimes you'll
get somebody who's good at a garden center. Sometimes you won't.
You know, some people care, some people don't. I got
one that would talk my ear off and she explained
to me that, you know, I'm not kidding you. This
tree has got to be watered every single day. You
want to soak around it, let the holes run for
an hour or so. Certain trees, right, and just leave
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the holes there, don't move it, because it's something you
have to do. And if you do that, once that
tree is established, you can probably take anything.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Right, Yes, yes, exactly, you just need that first two years. Yeah,
that's the most important part.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What percentage if you know, maybe it's a maybe it's
an unfair question, but what percentage of warrant you work
do you actually have to deliver on? I mean, do
you guys have a lot of.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, so you take your average, because of course we
have some people who just don't take care of stuff.
You do a little bit extra form, but our average
is seven percent.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And how many trees you put in?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Oh thousands?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, so you can't complain about that.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
The only time you can complain is when you go
to one job site and you have thirty trees you
put in and twenty of them are dead and the
guy says, no, I did all the maintenance, you know,
everything properly, and then that's that's when it becomes a
little bit of a hassle. But the one thing good
about Trees on the Move is we stand behind our stuff.
So even if you don't maintain it, you might have
to pay a little bit to have us come back
out and warranty you because it's your fault, but we're
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going to take care of it for you at a
darn good price.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Make sure you get what you want.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What about the guys that are working sixty eight hours
a week or two families working? Are there do you guys?
Will you guys put together a maintenance plan or are
there maintenance plans that available from other companies? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So, actually, if you do work with us, we have
an amazing book that has everything in it, even stuff
you don't do. So it has seed, it has sod,
it has native seed, it has perennials, shrubs, evergreens, trees,
how to maintain your brick, how to maintain your block walls,
absolutely everything. It comes in a nice little book and
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we give that to every client so they know how
to maintain their stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
There's no excuse, no excuses whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Derek, give out your information. We're running up against the
clock here. If somebody wants trees, now, it's a good
time to do it. There's a big sale going on
in New Berlin at there a lot on Calhoun. On Calhoun,
you can go pick your tree. You can say I
want that one. You guys are going to deliver it,
plant it and have it ready. Is that how it works? Yep?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
We do that.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And we also do cash and carry. You want to
come in with a trailer and just take some trees
home with you, you go right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Ahead, and now's the time.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Now is the time?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay? You want to get those those off the lot
and in the ground.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, we have a good a good sale going on.
And it depends on the classification of the tree, but
you can get anywhere from ten to eighty percent off.
It's really good sales going on just to clear the lot.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's awesome. What's that address?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
So it's fifty six eleves in South Calhoun and New
Berlin just under the forty three overpass, and the phone
number is two six two six seven nine fifty two hundred.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Derek, thanks for coming in on a Sunday spending some
time with the Guru. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh, I appreciate you having me. It's always a great time. Yeah,
we'll have you again again. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
All Right, News Talk eleven thirty WIS and we will
return again next week
When you need wisdom and advice. Seek out a guru
when you need wisdom and advice about remodeling and design.
Lock on and listen right now to Nick the construction Gluru.
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You just talk eleven thirty wsn Nick the Construction Guru.
I have a returning guest. I'm excited about this because, well,
you guys do something that nobody else does. I have
Derek Johnson here from Trees on the Move. Derek, thanks
for coming in on a Sunday. Tell us a little
bit about Trees on the Move. I think everybody knows
your trucks, but Yeller tell us what happens and how
it goes.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I mean, Trees on movement around for a long time,
almost fifty years now, and we do everything under the sun. Basically,
we do residential, we do commercial, we do irrigation, we
do concrete, we do tree work. We do just anything
that you need done in your backyard. We can get
it done for you. The process is easy. You give
us a call and you'll get hooked up with a
designer or an architect, depending on what your needs are,
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and we go through the process, two or three different meetings,
make sure everything is exactly how you want it. Then
we give the proposal, you do the work with us.
Then that design process and everything is absolutely free because
the price of that comes off on the proposal. So
it's a nice easy thing and everything's covered by trees
on the move, no subcontractors.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
We just get it done.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Is there anybody else moving big trees like you're moving.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I've seen a couple of spades here and there, but no,
we are the largest spade operator in all of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And I know that in some of the subdivisions. As
a matter of fact, I think there's a couple in
New Berlin that you guys are dropping some trees in.
I saw some trucks out there.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So a lot of the new bills are being built
on old farmland, which means that it's been cleared up
trees and you guys can actually come in. I always
hate it when you look at these great, big, you know,
million and a half dollar homes and then there's tiny tree. Yes, yes,
but you guys can actually restore that back to.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh yeah, we can make it to where it looks
like it everything's been there for twenty twenty five years.
We also, you know, when it comes to those like
remodeling stuf because a lot of people are remodeling now.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Or you want to build a.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Garage and you have this beautiful oak tree or this
beautiful spruce tree, and you want to keep it, so
we'll come out, we'll spade it, we'll move it thirty
feet to the left or wherever you want. I think
that's one of the big things that our spade truck's
doing now.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Derek, what's the survival rate on a big tree?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Big tree? Eighty ninety percent?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really? Yes, really, and so you really don't have to
worry too much about it. Is eric better time to
do it than others?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I think spring is always the best to plant trees,
but we can do it year round. Evergreens we don't
do in the late fall or in the winter time
just because you can't get them enough water. But for
the deciduous trees, as long as we can break through
the ground, the frozen crust isn't too deep, and we'll
get it done no matter what.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Interesting, And it's also interesting because I imagine a lot of
people do think more in spring, so that sit conducive
for you guys to have big sales.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh yeah, most definitely, we have huge sales. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right now we're doing our big fall sale, so we're
just trying to empty the lot. Most of those are
for above ground, but we do have a tree clearing sale.
The tree clearing sale is the things that are still
planted in the yard and when they're still planted, those
are our spade trees. We keep them planted until the
owner wants it, and then we dig it and.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So they're out of the ground the least amount of
time that, yes, sir, okay, just half an hour at
most times. Okay, not very long. So is there a
big selection?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
There's a huge selection.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We have over four thousand trees above ground and we
got a couple thousand in ground.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, And tell us about where it is where people go,
how do they set that up if they want to treat.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We are at fifty six eleven South Calhoun and New Berlin.
You can either just stop on in or you can
give us a call at two six two six seven
nine fifty two hundred, or of course you can reach
us on the web trees on themove dot com.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What's the biggest tree right now that you haven't. You know,
if somebody wants to, I mean a big tree, what's
the biggest you can get?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
So with the spade truck. The only bad thing is
is like a twenty five footer is probably the tallest.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
We can get.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's a big tree.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's a huge tree. Yes, yes it's pretty big. But
you don't have to apologize for that. Well, some people
want to see like these big forty foot trees moved,
and we can't do if it's on property. You can't
go a little bit bigger than the twenty five foot
You can't get it on the road because it blocks
your window.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Some gotcha.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So it's just not safe.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay. But so right now you can get twenty five
maximum twenty five foot trees put in your yard. This
is a good time to do it. It's a great
time to do it. Yeah, I know that through experience,
you know, tree trimming and all of that. There's very
specific times that that should be done, in very specific
times that it should not be done, right, yes, sir,
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mostly so. I imagine it's the same with planting that you know,
there's certain like you said, certain like not no evergreens,
now not a good right.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, that's mostly just because of water.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
When it comes to pruning, they want you to do
the majority of that in the winter time because the
bugs are gone and the diseases aren't out there as much.
When it comes to planting, you don't really have those
when it comes to deciduous trees, so we put them
in all the way up till Christmas. Sometimes we're putting
in plants in January February, depending on what the frost
and the winter's like. So nowadays it doesn't get super
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cold up you know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I just thought of this because you said Christmas, a
tree would be a great gift, wouldn't it? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
For sure? Is it?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Are there people that come in and do that.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
There are a lot of people that'll come and buy
like an eight foot spruce or whatever, and they'll put
it in their house and water it in a bucket
until springtime and then they go plant it and say
that was our Christmas tree of that year.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
So a lot of people do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, And you can put them in your planters outside
as well and then just leave it out there until
spring and then get it in the ground and takes
care of both.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So tell me how tell me how the design process
works for landscaping. I know that in our business, you know,
we create a design. I think we do it kind
of like you do. You pay for the design, but
it comes off when you do it, Yes, sir, exactly.
So tell us a little bit about how that works.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well. I mean, I guess the best way for us
to start is if you have a plata survey. We
get that plata survey, and then we go out and
we do our own field measurements, make sure everything's correct,
and mark out where all the trees and sheds and
all that stuff is, and then we just listen to you.
You know, that's the most important part about being a
designer is listening to the client because everybody has different
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thoughts on what looks good.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And so sometimes those thoughts aren't good ideas right, Sometimes
they're not, and you need a professional to let you
know that. You know what, you know, what I see
the big I'm sorry to interrupt, but the biggest mistake
I see made is in these new houses. They get
these little decorative trees, yep, and they plant them real
close to them, super close. Yes, guess what fifteen years
from now?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yep, you got to pull that tree out exactly. Yeah. Yes,
it's a big waste. It's a waste of the tree
too close together to it.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yes, all the time, all the time, especially these evergreens,
because when you're playing a spruce and they say, oh,
I want to block my neighbors, so they put eight
feet apart from each other. Well, both of those trees
are going to get thirty feet wide in the long run,
so it doesn't make it nice for the tree. It
makes it pretty ugly after ten years.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. And I think you know it's hard because it
looks pretty sparse if you do it correctly. I know
this from experience. Okay, I've done the arbibitis to block things. Yep,
and you're exactly what you're saying. They grow up and
they're all intertwined and they're all, yeah, it's good. Where
if you would have just left the space. The problem
is when you do it, the spaces look like they're
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too big for the little trees right.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well they do.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But we have a great way to conquer that is
there's beautiful grasses that you buy for twenty dollars each,
so not much money, but they get ten feet tall.
So when you put in your evergreens and you need
that spacing. Leave those grasses for the first three years,
and then they were so cheap. Pull them out, put
them somewhere else on property, or throw them away if.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You don't need them anywhere else. Yeah, so you still
get the screen.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's where a designer comes in, right, yes, sir. So
you know it's it's like when we design. It's similar
to when we design like a lower level. You know,
if the kids are younger, they want to have playrooms
and stuff like that. But I always say, what is
it going to be ten years from now. Let's let's
design it so that you can you can do it yourself.
You can change the purpose of that yourself. It's kind
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of the same thing with landscaping, right, Let's design it
so you're not having to pull things out when.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
It matures, right, Yes, sir, most definitely.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah. So it's are you doing a lot of new
subdivisions right now?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We're doing a lot of new subdivisions.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yes, all over the place, you know, Delafield, down in
Lake Geneva, We're in the Racine area.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We're kind of all over the place that.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I see it. Like I said, in New Berlin,
there's some some really upper scale, nice subdivisions, and I
see big trees going in and that just enhances the
whole value of the property, because when you're sitting on
a postage stamp and everything, you got all these little
trees in this humongous house. It's almost disheartening, it really is.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And then when you have the new buyers coming in
looking at him and they say, oh, there's no shade
for my kids, and you know, it's nice having big trees.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It just looks good.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, you got this big grass area that was a
farm field, and you know it was a farm field.
So I don't know if you want to talk about
this or not, but I always like to ask these
things because I think this is what makes people worry.
You know. They're like, oh, it's all great, you know,
like when we talk to Dean Popedo with the water features,
it's all great, but they think it's going to be
very expensive. And I always like to talk a little
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bit about price because I think that people have this
thing in their head where they think it's just out
of their reach, like this is a rich band sport,
am I right?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, No, people definitely think that way, and in some
ways it is true, Like, yes, things have skyrocketed, and
you know, prices of materials on everything is more expensive.
But when you get a designer in there, he knows
what the cheaper plants are that look just as nice,
he says, the more expensive plant you're looking at, he
knows what type of patio pavers will still look beautiful
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with your house.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
But I'll save you, you know, five dollars a square foot.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
So it's just knowing the materials and knowing what you
can put in to get the look you want at
the least amount of cost.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So if you're looking, if you're looking at an acre
lot with a relatively large home on it, I'm saying,
I mean, I hate to say this, but I've been
looking at houses. The average house is like seven to
fifty Now.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
There really is, yes, and it's not even that big.
And you neighbors ten feet away.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
If you would have said seven hundred and fifty thousand,
I mean even ten years ago, I'd be like, that's
that's now.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
That's movie star stuff, right, Yes, yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
But that's and I know I know a lot of
younger people that are looking at three hundred and fifty
thousand dollars homes and going I'm going to have to
stick sixty seventy thousand dollars into it. So, I mean,
prices have skyrocketed. But if you if you decide that
you're going to do a complete let's say you build
a house on a farm field yep, which many are,
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and you want to appoint it nicely with tree, shrubs
and landscape. Is there a ballpark number that are a
percentage that people should be thinking.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, it's really hard to say a percentage, but
I would say if you're going on the cheap end,
you're at twenty k. If you're going on the more
expensive end and you're up to one hundred to two hundred.
It really depends on what you're looking for as far
as and if you need any walls, because your grade
really changes.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So you're talking a complete landscape complete, Nate, I was
just saying for it, so that, Yeah, that doesn't surprise
me at all. But I'm just saying, if you know,
if you want to, let let's we got to take
a break, Derek, but when we come back, let's explore
this a little bit more. Because I think these are
the questions that people have, and I know it's uncomfortable
sometimes to talk about it, but it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right, yeah, and people want to know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, all right. We will return after these messages with
Trees on the Move on News Talk eleven thirty WISN
News Talk eleven thirty WISN Nick the Construction Go a
returning from break listen. If you're thinking about a remodeling project,
give us a call. You can reach us on the
web at ink dot com or at our phone number.
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We actually have a phone number that gets answered. It's
just amazing. My father's going to be ninety three. He
is at the office every day. He loves to talk
with people, and people love talking with him. And give
us a call at two six two five six seven
twenty five hundred. Kerzner is the only company in Wisconsin
in our industry to win the Better Business Bureau Torch
Award for Ethics and Integrity three times. So if you're thinking,
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even if you're just thinking, give us a call. We'd
love to come out and talk to you. If you're
just tuning in, I have a returning guest. These guys
are fascinating to me and I know that the lion
SHERI of you out there have seen their trucks going
down because it's it's such It's like when you see
the military, okay, or you see the tanks on flat
business stuff you do, or or classic cars. When you
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see trees on the move going down the road with
a gigantic tree in the spade, that's a memorable experience.
And I think you guys, you guys were the guys
for me that pioneered this. I don't know if you
were the first in the business, but the first time
I saw it, I was like, holy cow. Cow wasn't
the word I used, but it's the word I used.
So the FCC doesn't come after me. But I'm like, wow,
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that is that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It is And that's something you know when you're passing by,
you can see the parents look, look and showing the
kids this spade tree.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
It is a really neat thing.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And yeah, we've been doing it for forty seven forty
eight years now, so we were one of the first
ones around here to get out there and buy the
Spade trucks and start doing it.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is that How long have those machines been around?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Boy?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I want to say the first Spade was quite a
while ago, Like twenties or thirties.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Wow, you know why I asked, Because I have these.
I live on on a street called Oakshire. Okay, because
we have these, I know they're over one hundred years old.
They're the oaks that are way up in the air,
all twisted up, you know, yes, right, yes, sir, And
I love them, so I build around them. I do
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not move them. When I look at those those kinds
of trees. That's it's fascinating to me. Because a friend
of mine told me in California they will pay up
to one hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars
for a mature oak tree, you know, movie stars and
stuff like that. Yes, yes, and they said they have
to dig. At that time, they had to dig all
the way around it and then put logs and cables
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to Does that sound familiar to.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You, Well, they actually still do that all these huge trees.
You can't do that spade on those trees. So yeah,
they cut it like a square and they go like
five feet deep, and they get it up on rollers
and they have to roll it so you can't move
it very far. But it's an amazing thing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I actually saw any of that.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
We do not. There's not I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Think there's any companies around here.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Probably not at all, in right, right, not at all. No.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Another thing I didn't know, which is just tree history,
is in Arizona, palm trees are not an indigenous plant.
All of them were brought in from California. I didn't
know that.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, that's amazing how they do that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, So, I mean there's tons of palm trees in
Arizona now, but never until right we brought them in.
It's pretty amazing to me. So there's a lot to
learn about trees. Are there some trees that just shouldn't
be planted here? I mean, obviously palm trees, But are
the trees that shouldn't be planted in Wisconsin?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I mean that they are planting.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I mean they are planting, and it really depends on
where you put them, because there's a lot of beautiful
like the smaller, more delicate Japanese maples. A lot of
people say you shouldn't plant them here, But if you
put them in a courtyard and you nestle them in
a corner and you put stuff around it so it
is blocked, then yes, you.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Can put them here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I have one and it does well.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It all depends on how you maintain,
how you take care of stuff and get it ready
for winter.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So that's another thing I think that you know, when
you were talking about designers, and we're gonna we're not
going to avoid the question that we went to before break,
because I still want to talk to you about money
a little bit more because it's fascinating. I know everybody
gets uncomfortab when we talk about money, but it's important
to know because that's going to define kind of who
your audience is, right right. There are people that simple
they can't afford to do this, and there are people
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that think that it's way more than it is. And
I like to let people know what it is. But
when you're looking at the trees, it's good to have
a designer because I would guess that they can probably
tell you this is not a good place for that
particular tree, this is a better place for this tree.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Most definitely, they can tell.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You what kind of longevity you're going to get out
of it, what you're paying for your buck.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, and there's a lot of existing trees, like say
the black walnut. Ninety percent of plants can't be planted
anywhere underneath that canopy, and it's a great big canopy,
so you really need to know what you can and
can't do there.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You know, it's funny you bring that up, because that's
exactly for me. It's not so much what's growing underneath.
It's the fact that I can't get any damn internet up.
But yeah, you know, it's fascinating when you go to
up north Wisconsin and you really look at what's going
on because the trees. Our area is completely open at
the bottom, yep, but there's a They're all fighting for
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that sun, so they keep growing up higher and higher. Yes,
they don't get as big around and all their energy
into going up and the canopy. I love it. It's gorgeous.
We don't have to run air conditioning ever, and the
sun shines in between it. But that's a concern too,
because if you want to block something, you want certain
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trees to do that. Yes, and black walnuts are pretty
hardy too, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They're super hardy. Yeah, it's really hard to kill them.
It's the birch trees that aren't so hardy right there.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I think it's the birch trees are because we don't
put them near the water that they want.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
You know, the birch trees are water lovers, So if
you don't have it near an underground source of water
or anything like that, then you just got to make
sure you water it enough, gotcha, And nature you just
find them along rivers and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That's what they know.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I never knew that because up north, again we have
birch growing right in the middle. It just depends on
what bird east right. So, but those are the ones
that seem to have the most difficulty with the tall
canopies because they're all leaning all of a sudden and
then they fall over. And but we have a ton
of aples yep. Yeah. And maple is a hardy tree, right.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
A maple is a hardy tree. They are a soft wood, so,
and they also have a little bit more uh leafs
and seed pods and things like that than other trees.
So if you don't like to do cleanups, I would
stay away from a maple and go for more of
a hardwood that holds its leaves for longer, and you
don't have the big drop and you don't have as
many seeds and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Another thing that may be common knowledge and I'm just
an idiot or I just found out acorns are cyclical.
There's good years and big years for acorns, right, yes, yes, sir,
And that's a that's a big cleanup too.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
That's a huge cleanup.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yes, yes, you step on one of those with a
flap flop.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So talking to a designer, I mean, they're beautiful trees,
don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that maintenance is
a concern too, especially if you have an acre lot.
That stuff's got to go either on your on your
ground or your neighbor's ground. Right, so, right, So you
a designer is going to be able to help you
and say that these are like remember willows. Yes, I
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don't see many willows anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I don't. We still plant some.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I love them. They're beautiful, but they're dirty.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
They're super dirty, and they're really really soft, so they're
kind of a hazard. It's actually funny. When I was younger,
I climbed a willow tree and one of the big
branches that was probably sixteen inches around. You wouldn't think
it would break on a ten year old kid. It
broke and I fell down, broke my jaw again.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
That's why you're in a shape like that. Yeah, there
you go.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I didn't want to ask, but no, I get it.
I remember across the street from us we had a
gigantic willow and it was it's beautiful when the wind's blowing.
They're just very graceful in that. But again, I have
learned suber lessons with planting trees on my lot. When
the plant, when not the plant, when to prune, when
not to prune. And it gets expensive if you don't
(19:53):
learn it from somebody who knows it. Rather, you know
that right that self teaching stuff gets real expensive, real quick.
I know that a small tree in a pot, I
don't know the galons, but something that I can physically
put on my truck that can be two hundred dollars
for a tree.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
And that's one thing you know that people don't realize
is Okay, so you go to a place and you
look at a tree, it costs you three hundred dollars.
A commercial company they get it for like fifty percent
off less than that. And then when we do our markup,
our markup is just our common markup. And then we
charge you for the labor and there'll be Sometimes you'll
go and you'll look at a tree and you'll say,
(20:33):
I want this tree. And then you say, okay, I'm
gonna call Trees on the Move and tell them I
want that tree. Our price planted and installed and warrantied
is not much more than the price you're gonna pay
for just picking the darn thing up and doing all
the work yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I completely agree with you. But more than that, Derek,
I think the big thing for me is the warranty
because if you plant it yourself. Now you know the
garden centers have warranties. Don't get me wrong, Yeah, but
sometimes it's a hassle trying to get it covered because
they didn't do something right. They can't control how it
went in. But I do know that when you guys
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plant something, you have How long is a warranty?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
We talked to one year warranty, so you go through.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
The four full seasons. If something's going to happen to
that tree because of planting, it's going to happen in
the first year.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
To be honest, If something's going to happen because of planting,
it's going to happen in the first couple of weeks.
Plants don't just automatically go bad. And that's something that
you know when somebody builds a new home and they're
not knowledgeable about landscaping, and all of a sudden, a
whole lot of their stuff is dead no matter who
puts it in. You can usually look at the maintenance
(21:37):
aspect of it. It's usually the maintenance is the reason
why your stuff is not doing as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You can't just plant it in one way, right.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
No, exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And once it's planted, it's up to you to make
sure you maintain it and water it and do all
the things, because you got to think about it that
especially trees. Those trees have been around for ten to
fifteen years before they get to your house, so they're
obviously not a bad tree. They just need the tender
love and care because they have through a move.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
They're going to go through some trauma with the move,
yes exactly, and so you got to try and just
like with any living creature, you're going to have to
have to mitigate that to a certain extent. I know that,
you know, watering instructions are very important. You know, I've
I've planted a couple of trees, the small trees. Okay,
not not the kind of stuff you guys do, but
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that's what they told me, you know. And sometimes you'll
get somebody who's good at a garden center. Sometimes you won't.
You know, some people care, some people don't. I got
one that would talk my ear off and she explained
to me that, you know, I'm not kidding you. This
tree has got to be watered every single day. You
want to soak around it, let the holes run for
an hour or so. Certain trees, right, and just leave
(22:41):
the holes there, don't move it, because it's something you
have to do. And if you do that, once that
tree is established, you can probably take anything.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Right, Yes, yes, exactly, you just need that first two years. Yeah,
that's the most important part.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What percentage if you know, maybe it's a maybe it's
an unfair question, but what percentage of warrant you work
do you actually have to deliver on? I mean, do
you guys have a lot of.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, so you take your average, because of course we
have some people who just don't take care of stuff.
You do a little bit extra form, but our average
is seven percent.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And how many trees you put in?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Oh thousands?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, so you can't complain about that.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
The only time you can complain is when you go
to one job site and you have thirty trees you
put in and twenty of them are dead and the
guy says, no, I did all the maintenance, you know,
everything properly, and then that's that's when it becomes a
little bit of a hassle. But the one thing good
about Trees on the Move is we stand behind our stuff.
So even if you don't maintain it, you might have
to pay a little bit to have us come back
out and warranty you because it's your fault, but we're
(23:39):
going to take care of it for you at a
darn good price.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Make sure you get what you want.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
What about the guys that are working sixty eight hours
a week or two families working? Are there do you guys?
Will you guys put together a maintenance plan or are
there maintenance plans that available from other companies? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
So, actually, if you do work with us, we have
an amazing book that has everything in it, even stuff
you don't do. So it has seed, it has sod,
it has native seed, it has perennials, shrubs, evergreens, trees,
how to maintain your brick, how to maintain your block walls,
absolutely everything. It comes in a nice little book and
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we give that to every client so they know how
to maintain their stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
There's no excuse, no excuses whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Derek, give out your information. We're running up against the
clock here. If somebody wants trees, now, it's a good
time to do it. There's a big sale going on
in New Berlin at there a lot on Calhoun. On Calhoun,
you can go pick your tree. You can say I
want that one. You guys are going to deliver it,
plant it and have it ready. Is that how it works? Yep?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
We do that.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And we also do cash and carry. You want to
come in with a trailer and just take some trees
home with you, you go right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Ahead, and now's the time.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Now is the time?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay? You want to get those those off the lot
and in the ground.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, we have a good a good sale going on.
And it depends on the classification of the tree, but
you can get anywhere from ten to eighty percent off.
It's really good sales going on just to clear the lot.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's awesome. What's that address?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
So it's fifty six eleves in South Calhoun and New
Berlin just under the forty three overpass, and the phone
number is two six two six seven nine fifty two hundred.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Derek, thanks for coming in on a Sunday spending some
time with the Guru. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh, I appreciate you having me. It's always a great time. Yeah,
we'll have you again again. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
All Right, News Talk eleven thirty WIS and we will
return again next week
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