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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you need wisdom and advice. Seek out a guru.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When you need wisdom and advice about remodeling and design.
Lock on and listen right now to Nick the construction Guru.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You just talk eleven thirty wsn Nick the construction Girl.
I'm excited today. I have my as best to suit,
my hard hat on because I have a returning guest
and one of my favorite adversaries. Now you're always making
fun of me on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I think that might be your favorite person in you
you are. That's not Lie. I have Tommy. Tommy's not the.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Guy I Tommy. Tommy's one of them. I have Kevin
hunt from Today we're going to talk about Premier Garage.
And it's always fun to talk to you, Kevin, because
there's such new and innovative things happening in one of
your three businesses all the time. Actually, I'm going to
have to have some garage work done because you did
(01:03):
such a beautiful job at my cabin with the outdoor lighting.
But today we're going to talk about organization. It's that
time of year. The kids are kind of settled into
school now I know that a lot of people are
thinking about organizing before the holidays, and of course being
prepared after the holidays. Let's let's talk about some of
the stuff that's exciting with the storage. When we talk
(01:24):
about it's not only Premier Garage, but it's it's also
does Premier Garage do the storage too?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Premier Garage does everything. We'll make your you know, a
man cave out of your garage.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know, because but you guys do the California closets.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We do closets.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, you got the organizational science like you did with
the lighting.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So yeah, So as usual, Nick, I have to pick
on you just this mission.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I know always.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, if I'm going to do your garage floor, I
have to be able to see the floor. And we've
talked about this in the past. You have you cleaned
up your garage.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's why today's show is about organization.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh my god, I don't nothing to help you. I can't.
Organization is a semi trailer pull up to your garage?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yes, no, a forty year dumpster. Now, Actually, you know
it's funny. I'm one of these guys, and I'm sure
there's a lot of listeners that especially the guys that
go through this. I save everything, and the minute I
throw it out, I need it. I had this old
ottoman that had this fabric on top, and I saved
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the top of it because it was like padded. It
was in my garage. And the other day, lo and behold,
we go and buy this rustic chair for the cab
and it's missing a skirt on the back of it,
and I said, I'll go get that. I threw it out.
I knew I was gonna need it now. Who the
hell else would need it part of an ottoman? But
the construction grew himself. The other thing is, you know,
I'm one of these guys.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
How are you that smart to remember what you need
and where you put it? That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, it's delayed organization. I call it. It's in my head.
I know where everything is, but it's not. If you
went in there, I couldn't tell you where to go
to get it right. So that's the challenge with that.
But I'm also one of these guys who saves everything
because I reuse things. I rease it a ton of things.
You know. I built an entire tiny house out of
palette wood and mismeasured windows and all of that kind
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of stuff. So I hate to throw things out. And
I know there's a lot of people out there, maybe
not to the degree that I save things, but that
do save things and having a good organizational plan. It's
difficult to do by yourself. You need professional help with that,
for sure. It's you know, I started out with the
home depot boxes. They don't hold up when you're pulling
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them off in and off the shelf. So that's you guys.
Do the toe, you do the baskets, you do the
slat walls, you do all that kind of stuff. Let's
talk about some of that stuff. Let's talk about sports
families with all the hockey gear and all of that
kind of stuff. You have all kinds of solutions for that.
Let's talk about the garage mechanic that works on his
own own cars and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You want to know my solution everything?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, Aaron, why are you here today?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Aaron's been doing this stuff for five, six, seven years?
And you know this nick when people are do designs,
will bounce around maybe kitchen cabinets one year, and then
I'll quit that job and they're going to do another
job and another job. And Aaron's really probably I would say,
a master of her craft. And I say that probably
one of the longest tenured people designing cabinets and closes
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in the walk area. Yeah, I mean, there's there's just
no doubt about that. So you know, she goes in,
she's you know, gets a little bit backed up on
designs here and there, but she's very, very good at
what she does. And sometimes you know, got to wait
a smidge and longer for an expert to help you out,
but she comes out. She'll do a consultation, she'll listen
everything that you need, and she'll come up with plans
and she usually comes up with a couple of them
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and you kind of choose what you want. You know,
with the garages, a lot of people now, you know,
you do the epoxy floor and you get the granule
lear in there and so it's less slippery and you know,
we got pay strimp for you all the way around.
It matches the epoxy and kind of seals the drywall,
and you know, then you can get some customized cabinets
in there, and you know, the shelves are really thick.
We've talked about this in past shows. You can throw
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bags for lser on there, whatever you want. You know,
there's gonna be no flex in them. They're all sealed
so you don't get any uh, water, penetration, moisture or
anything into them. There's no no, there's nothing that happens
to them. And I'm gonna tell this story. We talked
about it a little bit on the commercials, but it's
a true story. I don't know how many years ago.
(05:20):
It was probably ten years ago. I had you know,
premier garage do my uh, you know, floor, and then
I had some cabinets added. And there's a couple of
things in my life that I really really liked having done.
One of them, obviously, is the lighting in my backyard.
When it goes out, it's not a good day. That rarely, ever,
ever happens. I had some irrigation done once. And then
(05:41):
the other one is, you know, the garage. I had
the garage done, and I'm like, how did I, you know,
live without this? And then my you know, this is
completely off the subject, but I had a belt drive
garage door open or put in ninja quiet, you know,
I had at the time my kid would come home
at midnight or whatever, and that would, you know, right
against the bedroom wall, I would hear the garage or opening.
So there's there's a couple of like really simple things
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that really, you know, improve your quality of life. So
it's odd as it seems. And then I ended up
buying the company after that, just because you know, the
guy who's having a little bit of a hard time
running it, and it fit good with what we do,
and we've kind of never looked back.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah. One of the things that makes me crazy when
I'm at customer's houses when we're doing a kitchen, or
we've done a kitchen in the past, is when you
walk into the garage of a you know, five six,
seven hundred thousand dollars home, and hanging in the cab
in that garage are the old kitchen cabinets, the old
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Mediterranean or the old European style cabinets. And I'm guilty
as charged. I did the same thing. And the reason
I bring that up is because now I put, you know,
the five gallon water things in the cabinets. Like you said,
all the shelves are starting to belly Dean lamp. It's
not that they're bad cabinets, they're just not made for
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outside the stuff that you guys are using is capable
of taking the temperature changes, the trauma of oil changes,
and things like that. Like your floor. You were talking
about epoxy floors. I have seen so many botch jobs
on apotchy floor POxy floors now that it makes me insane.
The one that you did in Pewaukee is still beautiful.
(07:22):
It was that That garage floor was an absolute mess.
We've talked about it several times on here. I'm now
doing a porch for her and it still looks like
brand new. It's like brand new when you're doing oil changes,
when you have salt from the roads and all of
those things dropping on your concrete, I know that everybody's
in the same boat as ion. You start to see
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the concrete start to deteriorate, you start to see the
oil stains in the concrete. A lot of the so
called everybody's calling it POxy floors, but a lot of
the floors out there the same things happening. They're wearing
out where the tires are coming in. It's very important
the chemicals you used to do that before you set
cabinets or anything. That's the first thing, right.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, we don't deviate from our chemical process. We have
one manufacturer that we deal with and we've stayed with
them for a long time. We chart everything in our
files down to humidity and temperature when we do floors.
You know, if we ever have a problem that creeps up,
we want to know exactly why it happened. We got
our crews. Everything's charted, so you know, you dial in
if there ever was a problem or is a problem,
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we take care of it right away and we go
kind of go on from there. But the chemicals are
very particular what we use. There's other places that sell chemicals,
and in fact, I think Sherman Williams is probably buying
up half the country with POxy chemicals and stuff. And
you know, you get these big companies that step in
and do that, and you know, we kind of just
run from a lot of stuff. I've been around and
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so have you. We've been around in this industry long
enough where, yeah, something new comes along, you know, I'll
run from it so fast I'll probably stumble and break
a leg.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, it's interesting that we're talking about this because
another one of the things it has kind of the
same story going on is truck bedliners. The only truck
and I don't. I have no affiliation with LINEX at all,
but my Linux bedliner wears like iron. Everything else that
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I've ever used has fallen apart. I had a body
shop do it. It's absolutely a mess, and trying to
get that crap off when they put it on is
a nightmare. It's the same with epoxy floors. You have
to It's all in the preparation, right, it really is.
The chemicals are important, but you guys spend a lot
of time preparing that concrete for what's about to happen.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, there's a story from about four weeks ago. Aaron
was on a job and you know they said the
floor was done and it was done by one o'clock.
So you started at eight o'clock, they're done by one.
We're there until one o'clock, more than likely just prepping
the floor and then we start a chemical process. So
a lot of times these floors are done and you
can see waves in them and they just look like crap.
(09:55):
It's not something i'd be proud of. I went to
a floor yesterday from a customer and and I had
to pick up a trailer at their house and the
floor it was a rough floor to do. Man, it
was absolutely pristine, and our guys do the biggest job
is it's just prepping the floor. It's kind of like
you're doing concrete. You know, do you want to wavy
concrete driveway or do you want a really nice, flat,
(10:17):
smooth off like Tommy. I know Tommy's work when I
see it. Yeah, you know, Tommy might charge a little
bit more, but his work is good.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, And that's ali Yodo like Tommy Alioto.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, he's a regular guest here, no two ways about it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But I give Tommy floors. If I run into something
that's borderline and it's like, what are we going to
do here? You know, call this guy up. He'll give
you a fair shake. He's an honest guy. I know
Tommy's not going to take a dime from anybody.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I know he's he sent you referrals as well,
because I've been sitting at lunch when you guys are
talking about the referral that was just sent.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He goes to lunch with you. Yeah, that's very irritating.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And about every I would say every fifth or sixth
time he actually buys.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, not that bad.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know, there's no money in concrete. Tommy's gonna I
guarantee my he My phone's ringing right now here.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
He is.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's listening to the show and he knows. It's so funny.
Garage organization has come a long way. You. I love
the lifts that go above the garage doors. That's a
perfect place think about this, okay, and Christmas is coming. Okay.
You walk out in the garage and you push a
button and it's what do they call him? Now? The
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thing's over the garage door.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I can't remember. I'm under a lot of stress on
the show and I just found out. You go to
lunch with Tommy. Yeah, my memories. It's like it just
isn't a good day for me.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The lofts, yeah, the lofts. So you push the button,
the loft drops and now there's all your outdoor Christmas ornaments.
Then you get it done, you pack it up, you
put it back up and forget it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Let's back up the choo choo train there, Nick, most
people use world class outdoor lighting for the Christmas stuff
and they never see it. I put it up, I
take it down, and it's done. So that's what we do.
And I don't know how Nick ventured in the Christmas,
but it is coming and an awesome Christmas gift for
your family is to have Aaron come into a custom
closet for your wife and a garage for your husband.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The information is good, the delivery sucked. The transition was awful.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So I mean I got my whole product line in
and in like thirty seconds as genius.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna take this opportunity to take a short
break and straighten this guy out before we come back
on a news Talk eleven thirty Wiscent Huge Talk eleven
thirty wis and returning from break it snick to construction
Guru and I'm excited. There's a ton of new products
(12:44):
on the market for remodeling. If you're thinking about doing
a kitchen refresh, a bathroom refresh, a total remodel, basement
Extra Remodeling edition. Love to talk to you about that.
I say on every single show you should get two
or three opinions. We'd love it if you'd make one
of those rs. We'd love to come out and talk
to you about any of those things. You can reach
us on the worldwide Web at Cursoner Inc dot com.
(13:06):
That's k r z n E r I n C
dot com or you can call us at two six
two five six seven twenty five hundred. And remember Kursoner
is the only company in Wisconsin when a Better Business
Beer Torch Award for Ethics and Integrity three times. I
have a returning guest and we joke around a lot,
but we're good buds. We both done work for each
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other and we've both been very satisfied. You're always doing
work for me. You do more work for me than
I do for you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Though, Mike Conor that you put in fifteen twenty years
ago is still there and it's perfect. Yeah, but I'm
gonna maybe get a I might go on to Granted
or something. I don't know. I might do what granted.
I might do a kitchen me model. I don't know.
That's my big project.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well let's let's let's look at that, because I could
probably use some uh garage flooring and some cabinets and
things like that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Once again, Nick, we cannot see the floor. Yeah, well,
how do I do a floor and even bit on it?
If I can't see it? Think about it. It's probably
all pitted and I'd be betting on the floor thinking
it's really good, because you're gonna put all the crap
on the pits and I wouldn't be able to see nothing.
I know what kind of scam artist you are. You're good,
and you're good as a contractor, you're honest with your customers.
But I know if I come to your house, you're
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gonna scam me out of something. Yeah, he's just got
that look. Thanks Tommy Elioto. On the other hand, Nah,
he'd never do that to me. I actually did his
floor at his way. He loves his.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Floor world class. Did his lighting in Arizona too.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah. Yeah, we sent Brian down there. Surprised. Brian came back.
Apparently Tommy's got a gun in every drawer in his house.
There's word on the street.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, I don't like to talk about what Tommy's got
because Tommy gets real mad if I talk about it.
But let's just say this.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Let's just say that you told me to say.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That Tommy's Tommy's prepared for the armygeddon No, he is.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He's an impressive guy.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, he's he's actually, uh, we're not supposed to be
talking about him today.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I just figured he had a gun in every drawer
from when you come over.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So, Okay, we're going to have to stop this now,
and and we're going to stop this show. The FCC
is going to come in and crack you over the head.
I'm kidding Kevin realistically. Now. I always like to talk
about money, and I got Derek last week from Trees
on the Move to literally tell us some pricing. I
(15:18):
always try and be transparent on the show because I
think a lot of the things that we talk about
people think that it's rich man sport garage. Your organization
probably isn't top of mine awareness awareness for most people
when they're thinking about home projects. But what I do
know is that everybody that's done it always says the
same thing, Like you said, I wish I would have
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done it sooner because everything has become organized, including the
time that you have your hobbies, your crafts or whatever
you're doing. You know, we all have our different things
that we do. I have one guy that builds and
reloads ammunition and builds guns in his garage and he's
got it all set up and has the cabinet systems
in there. So let's talk a little bit about you know,
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an average what's the average garage? Twenty four by thirty.
Is that about average what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I mean you're looking at something like that thirty
five hundred. So much depends on, you know, the condition
of the floor. We're not going to nail you to
the cross, No, that's fine, But I'm just telling you,
if your floor is really pitted and it's cracked and
it needs a lot of work. You know, on a
garage that size, you're probably looking at fifteen hundred to
fix it. You know, that's fifteen hundred state to get
that resurfaced. It's called resurfacing. It's hard work. My guys
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don't particularly like doing it. Unfortunately, they're very good at
it for them, so I don't shy away from them.
But it's you know, fifteen hundred eight. They got to
get that all. You know, you're you're taking and you're
putting pellets in there. It's called shot blasting, taking anything
and cracking it open even a little bit more. So
you know you got a nice stable, you know, binding experience,
(16:49):
Yeah you do. Yeah, And that's what takes time, but
it's you know, that's what you're gonna pay.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, the one that you did in Pewaukee, I'm telling
you was I'm not saying a few cracks. It was
a mess. They had poured the concrete after building walls.
So when we took the walls out that she wanted
out of the garage, there there were big, you know,
trenches in there. From the walls. There was cracking. It
was uneven when you guys got done it, I actually
couldn't believe it. And the other thing I'm going to
(17:16):
tell you, and this is God's honest truth, I can't
believe it's working. I would have thought that that concrete
was unstable, but there's no cracks in that. I've seen
her a couple of times. She actually has a little
sitting area out there where she says, Lisa does yeah,
And so when you come over, that's where you catch her.
And the floor looks beautiful.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
One of the tricks to this too is and we
realize this is you know, people are trying to accelerate
the drying time on this. When you're doing and refurbishing
a floor like that, you know, when that top is dry,
that does not mean that bottom is dry and you're
gonna go pour stuff on top of you know, chemicals
in a dry all the way through. Well, that bottom
is the most important to dry instead of the top right. Yeah,
(17:57):
so yeah, we're completely not convinced that process is going
to hold a stand the test of time. You talk
to me, I talk about all the time. Everything I do.
I want to stand the test of time.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, and if it doesn't, the difference is you guys
and anybody can check this out. They don't have to.
You know, we're on a show talking. Of course, we're
going to talk good about you most of the time.
Maybe not the whole show now that I think about it.
There'll be some things coming up. But you've been around,
You've got a long term reputation. You're not going to
let that reputation. It's like me, people say, well, they're
(18:28):
good guys, they're smart guys. You don't tarnish your reputation
because it's all you have in this business. So you know,
I have people call me up and say, hey, I
just got one today. I did business with a friend
of his that he works with, and he says, you
really don't have to sell me on your company because
I know that this guy is very picky about who
he uses. It's the same thing with world Class. You're
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not the cheapest, you don't care if you're the cheapest,
you're not even going to purport to be the cheapest.
You don't care. What you care about is that if
there's a problem, you're going to get out there and
fix it lickety split, because that's turning lemons in the lemonade, right.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's one thing I care about. The other is walking
away from you know, when I'm done, I want to,
you know, have friends.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I literally look at those customers, we say that you're
like family. You know, I got everybody on my cell phone.
A lot of people don't do this. In fact, I
don't think there's anybody that would do this, especially if
they're doing Christmas lighting. I have everybody has my cell
phone number. If I did a crappy job, I mean
that's thousands of a thousand customers a year, whatever, three
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hundred Christmas customers. I mean, my phone would never I
wouldn't have enough battery yea in my phone. So at
the end of the day, if we're not friends, at
the end of the day, I probably did a really
bad Yeah. You know, we can do it the easy
way or the hard way, but you're going to be
my friend when we're done. The last time that Nick
has to come over and make you be my friend.
We're going to make you be my friend.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I can't do collections for you anymore. I'm getting old.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So why we got Tommy. He's a little younger, Yeah
is he? I don't know, maybe a little he acts younger.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah. Well he shaves his head so you can't see
any gray.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's something he does little bit on that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But what I what I was going to say is
the last time we won the torture word at the
Better Business Bureau, they asked me to say something and
I basically said. The question was what a business? What
does integrity mean in a business? Place to you? And
I said, it's real simple. I don't have to hide
from my clients in a grocery store. And that's a
big deal, you know. I don't want to have to
hide from people I did work from for And there's
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a lot of guys that have to write. We all know.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
How tall are you, Nick?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Six foot?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I think you ain't hiding in a grocery store. I
mean you stick out like a sore thumb too. That's
just a bad analogy. You go up to your cabin
and hide maybe, yeah, in the middle of the woods.
That's why you bought that, I think. But I get it,
I understand, but I can't imagine, and I'm sure that
you would have the same opinion. You know, a bad
day when you're in high school doing going to high school,
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you know, you didn't do your homework and you didn't
feel so good going in the class. Well, what if
that was like that every day and you did a
crappy job and you got people that are all pissed
off at you, and you're wondering where they're going to
pop out of the woodwork, or what's going on here
or there?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And you know today you know something. Just so if
you've been in this business as long you've been in
business and contracting business as long as I have, and
you know, one of the things that I'm sure you're
going to agree with, it's changed. It used to be.
There were a few bad guys in the business that
And when I say bad guys, I don't mean bad
guys necessarily criminals, although there's plenty of those. What I'm
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saying is guys that just have the mindset of it's
the P and L sheet, nothing else, that's all that matters.
And so they just decide what services they are going
to do based on how big of a loss they're
going to take in things like that. But today today,
I you know, fifty percent of the people out there
with with shingles in that on their houses and signs
(21:40):
on their trucks are not qualified to do what they
say they're doing and probably not ensured. Probably absolutely. Yeah.
I don't think people realize. You know, when you get
a big disparity in a bid, you need to check
because if you don't call up the insurance I've said
this on the show a million times. If I've said
it once, call up the insurance company and make sure
that the certificates still intact, because you get a year
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certificate when you pay your first premium. If you don't
pay the next month, if it comes down to insurance
and payroll, you're gonna pay pyroll. And customers aren't asking
those questions, and that's the problem. You should be getting
evidence of insurance. You should be calling the company. Now.
I say that my customers don't ask me to do that,
but we've been in business since nineteen sixty six and
I know that you have the same thing. But when
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you're dealing and there's a big disparity in bids, whether
it's outdoor lighting, because now we said it last week,
every single landscaper is doing outdoor lighting. Okay. It's kind
of like my auto mechanic decides to start doing dentistry.
They don't know the first thing about it, okay, but
they're going to supplement their business. I think that outdoor
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lighting is a very specific thing that you have done.
Organizational things is a very specific thing that you have done.
And if you've got a jack of all trades and
master of none, of course you're going to have problems.
Of Course, it's going to be cheaper, and of course
you're going to be faced with issues down the line.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And that's why I have Aaron run in half of
it company and I run the other half, and we're
very specific. I'll go out and bid floors and stuff.
I like to keep my you know, pulse on the
business a little bit. But for the most part, Oh yeah,
she's segregated.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There's no two ways about it. I've worked in collaboration
with Aaron several times. Not only is she a really decent,
honest person, but she really does know her stuff. She
really does, no two ways about it. She answers questions
that that dumbfound me sometimes from customers about different storage.
She comes up with good ideas, very innovative ideas. And
(23:30):
you guys do the three D renderings too.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, you know, it's kind of amazing when you're running
a business and you really don't appreciate a lot of
the stuff you have. And you know, I have my wife,
Sandy works there and she answers the phone. She does
a lot of the service right ups for world class
lighting needs a little bit of service here. And Aaron
that's helped out a lot. And uh, you know the
other people that we have working there. But you know,
(23:53):
between you know Aaron, Sandy, I got VICKI there, myself
in the front office. You're able to handle all that.
And they're all really all all of them are very
good at what they do. And Aaron is just honed
in on the designing aspect of that. She does a
really good job.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We've got about two minutes left and I want to
give you the last minute to give folks numbers and stuff.
But one of the things that I am so impressed
with that I never knew and I probably should have known,
is and it's a stupid little little quirky thing. It's
those remotes that you use. I have remotes that are
twenty feet thirty feet actually ones one hundred feet away.
(24:31):
I'm standing in my house. I pushed the button. It
turns on the lights outside, turns the lights off. I mean,
there's a lot of remotes, but you got to walk
up to it and then you got to twist it
for seven different ways to get it to work. It's
just knowing those things that make what you do so
much superior.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I appreciate that nick. Those operate off of FM frequency,
and they are made by a company called Lutron, which
makes the indoor automation system. They're you know, they.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They're pioneers, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
They're phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, give out. If you're thinking about and I can
vouch for this guy because I am not only a
friend of his, but I'm a customer. If you're thinking
about outdoor lighting, if you're thinking about garage organization, you're
thinking about what they used to call California closets. I mean,
you guys do that. Most people know what those are.
Any kind of storage needs, Christmas lighting, stuff like that.
Tell them about your company, how to get a hold
(25:20):
of you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Two six two five four nine fifty four eighty three.
I'm gonna make it simple and just give you one
number two six two five four nine fifty four eighty three.
We're in Walkie Shaw. We have a nice little showroom
and you ever see my guys out there working, especially
this time you're hanging Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Stop and say hi, Okay, Kevin. As always, I appreciate
having you on. I think you're the best in the
business and always appreciate everything except to your humor, which
you're not very good at, but we'll let that go.
Thanks for coming in on. Someone.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Is it trying to be funny about Tommy with the
guns in the drawingdow It was working.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You're not funny. It's working here. We will talk again
next week on News Talk eleven thirty WISN
When you need wisdom and advice. Seek out a guru.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
When you need wisdom and advice about remodeling and design.
Lock on and listen right now to Nick the construction Guru.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Here is award winning remodeling expert Nick Kerzner.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You just talk eleven thirty wsn Nick the construction Girl.
I'm excited today. I have my as best to suit,
my hard hat on because I have a returning guest
and one of my favorite adversaries. Now you're always making
fun of me on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I think that might be your favorite person in you
you are. That's not Lie. I have Tommy. Tommy's not the.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Guy I Tommy. Tommy's one of them. I have Kevin
hunt from Today we're going to talk about Premier Garage.
And it's always fun to talk to you, Kevin, because
there's such new and innovative things happening in one of
your three businesses all the time. Actually, I'm going to
have to have some garage work done because you did
(01:03):
such a beautiful job at my cabin with the outdoor lighting.
But today we're going to talk about organization. It's that
time of year. The kids are kind of settled into
school now I know that a lot of people are
thinking about organizing before the holidays, and of course being
prepared after the holidays. Let's let's talk about some of
the stuff that's exciting with the storage. When we talk
(01:24):
about it's not only Premier Garage, but it's it's also
does Premier Garage do the storage too?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Premier Garage does everything. We'll make your you know, a
man cave out of your garage.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know, because but you guys do the California closets.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We do closets.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, you got the organizational science like you did with
the lighting.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So yeah, So as usual, Nick, I have to pick
on you just this mission.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I know always.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, if I'm going to do your garage floor, I
have to be able to see the floor. And we've
talked about this in the past. You have you cleaned
up your garage.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's why today's show is about organization.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh my god, I don't nothing to help you. I can't.
Organization is a semi trailer pull up to your garage?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yes, no, a forty year dumpster. Now, Actually, you know
it's funny. I'm one of these guys, and I'm sure
there's a lot of listeners that especially the guys that
go through this. I save everything, and the minute I
throw it out, I need it. I had this old
ottoman that had this fabric on top, and I saved
(02:20):
the top of it because it was like padded. It
was in my garage. And the other day, lo and behold,
we go and buy this rustic chair for the cab
and it's missing a skirt on the back of it,
and I said, I'll go get that. I threw it out.
I knew I was gonna need it now. Who the
hell else would need it part of an ottoman? But
the construction grew himself. The other thing is, you know,
I'm one of these guys.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
How are you that smart to remember what you need
and where you put it? That's incredible.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, it's delayed organization. I call it. It's in my head.
I know where everything is, but it's not. If you
went in there, I couldn't tell you where to go
to get it right. So that's the challenge with that.
But I'm also one of these guys who saves everything
because I reuse things. I rease it a ton of things.
You know. I built an entire tiny house out of
palette wood and mismeasured windows and all of that kind
(03:09):
of stuff. So I hate to throw things out. And
I know there's a lot of people out there, maybe
not to the degree that I save things, but that
do save things and having a good organizational plan. It's
difficult to do by yourself. You need professional help with that,
for sure. It's you know, I started out with the
home depot boxes. They don't hold up when you're pulling
(03:30):
them off in and off the shelf. So that's you guys.
Do the toe, you do the baskets, you do the
slat walls, you do all that kind of stuff. Let's
talk about some of that stuff. Let's talk about sports
families with all the hockey gear and all of that
kind of stuff. You have all kinds of solutions for that.
Let's talk about the garage mechanic that works on his
own own cars and things like that.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You want to know my solution everything?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, Aaron, why are you here today?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Aaron's been doing this stuff for five, six, seven years?
And you know this nick when people are do designs,
will bounce around maybe kitchen cabinets one year, and then
I'll quit that job and they're going to do another
job and another job. And Aaron's really probably I would say,
a master of her craft. And I say that probably
one of the longest tenured people designing cabinets and closes
(04:16):
in the walk area. Yeah, I mean, there's there's just
no doubt about that. So you know, she goes in,
she's you know, gets a little bit backed up on
designs here and there, but she's very, very good at
what she does. And sometimes you know, got to wait
a smidge and longer for an expert to help you out,
but she comes out. She'll do a consultation, she'll listen
everything that you need, and she'll come up with plans
and she usually comes up with a couple of them
(04:37):
and you kind of choose what you want. You know,
with the garages, a lot of people now, you know,
you do the epoxy floor and you get the granule
lear in there and so it's less slippery and you know,
we got pay strimp for you all the way around.
It matches the epoxy and kind of seals the drywall,
and you know, then you can get some customized cabinets
in there, and you know, the shelves are really thick.
We've talked about this in past shows. You can throw
(04:59):
bags for lser on there, whatever you want. You know,
there's gonna be no flex in them. They're all sealed
so you don't get any uh, water, penetration, moisture or
anything into them. There's no no, there's nothing that happens
to them. And I'm gonna tell this story. We talked
about it a little bit on the commercials, but it's
a true story. I don't know how many years ago.
(05:20):
It was probably ten years ago. I had you know,
premier garage do my uh, you know, floor, and then
I had some cabinets added. And there's a couple of
things in my life that I really really liked having done.
One of them, obviously, is the lighting in my backyard.
When it goes out, it's not a good day. That rarely, ever,
ever happens. I had some irrigation done once. And then
(05:41):
the other one is, you know, the garage. I had
the garage done, and I'm like, how did I, you know,
live without this? And then my you know, this is
completely off the subject, but I had a belt drive
garage door open or put in ninja quiet, you know,
I had at the time my kid would come home
at midnight or whatever, and that would, you know, right
against the bedroom wall, I would hear the garage or opening.
So there's there's a couple of like really simple things
(06:02):
that really, you know, improve your quality of life. So
it's odd as it seems. And then I ended up
buying the company after that, just because you know, the
guy who's having a little bit of a hard time
running it, and it fit good with what we do,
and we've kind of never looked back.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah. One of the things that makes me crazy when
I'm at customer's houses when we're doing a kitchen, or
we've done a kitchen in the past, is when you
walk into the garage of a you know, five six,
seven hundred thousand dollars home, and hanging in the cab
in that garage are the old kitchen cabinets, the old
(06:39):
Mediterranean or the old European style cabinets. And I'm guilty
as charged. I did the same thing. And the reason
I bring that up is because now I put, you know,
the five gallon water things in the cabinets. Like you said,
all the shelves are starting to belly Dean lamp. It's
not that they're bad cabinets, they're just not made for
(07:00):
outside the stuff that you guys are using is capable
of taking the temperature changes, the trauma of oil changes,
and things like that. Like your floor. You were talking
about epoxy floors. I have seen so many botch jobs
on apotchy floor POxy floors now that it makes me insane.
The one that you did in Pewaukee is still beautiful.
(07:22):
It was that That garage floor was an absolute mess.
We've talked about it several times on here. I'm now
doing a porch for her and it still looks like
brand new. It's like brand new when you're doing oil changes,
when you have salt from the roads and all of
those things dropping on your concrete, I know that everybody's
in the same boat as ion. You start to see
(07:43):
the concrete start to deteriorate, you start to see the
oil stains in the concrete. A lot of the so
called everybody's calling it POxy floors, but a lot of
the floors out there the same things happening. They're wearing
out where the tires are coming in. It's very important
the chemicals you used to do that before you set
cabinets or anything. That's the first thing, right.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, we don't deviate from our chemical process. We have
one manufacturer that we deal with and we've stayed with
them for a long time. We chart everything in our
files down to humidity and temperature when we do floors.
You know, if we ever have a problem that creeps up,
we want to know exactly why it happened. We got
our crews. Everything's charted, so you know, you dial in
if there ever was a problem or is a problem,
(08:23):
we take care of it right away and we go
kind of go on from there. But the chemicals are
very particular what we use. There's other places that sell chemicals,
and in fact, I think Sherman Williams is probably buying
up half the country with POxy chemicals and stuff. And
you know, you get these big companies that step in
and do that, and you know, we kind of just
run from a lot of stuff. I've been around and
(08:44):
so have you. We've been around in this industry long
enough where, yeah, something new comes along, you know, I'll
run from it so fast I'll probably stumble and break
a leg.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You know, it's interesting that we're talking about this because
another one of the things it has kind of the
same story going on is truck bedliners. The only truck
and I don't. I have no affiliation with LINEX at all,
but my Linux bedliner wears like iron. Everything else that
(09:14):
I've ever used has fallen apart. I had a body
shop do it. It's absolutely a mess, and trying to
get that crap off when they put it on is
a nightmare. It's the same with epoxy floors. You have
to It's all in the preparation, right, it really is.
The chemicals are important, but you guys spend a lot
of time preparing that concrete for what's about to happen.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, there's a story from about four weeks ago. Aaron
was on a job and you know they said the
floor was done and it was done by one o'clock.
So you started at eight o'clock, they're done by one.
We're there until one o'clock, more than likely just prepping
the floor and then we start a chemical process. So
a lot of times these floors are done and you
can see waves in them and they just look like crap.
(09:55):
It's not something i'd be proud of. I went to
a floor yesterday from a customer and and I had
to pick up a trailer at their house and the
floor it was a rough floor to do. Man, it
was absolutely pristine, and our guys do the biggest job
is it's just prepping the floor. It's kind of like
you're doing concrete. You know, do you want to wavy
concrete driveway or do you want a really nice, flat,
(10:17):
smooth off like Tommy. I know Tommy's work when I
see it. Yeah, you know, Tommy might charge a little
bit more, but his work is good.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, And that's ali Yodo like Tommy Alioto.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, he's a regular guest here, no two ways about it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But I give Tommy floors. If I run into something
that's borderline and it's like, what are we going to
do here? You know, call this guy up. He'll give
you a fair shake. He's an honest guy. I know
Tommy's not going to take a dime from anybody.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I know he's he sent you referrals as well,
because I've been sitting at lunch when you guys are
talking about the referral that was just sent.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He goes to lunch with you. Yeah, that's very irritating.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And about every I would say every fifth or sixth
time he actually buys.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, not that bad.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know, there's no money in concrete. Tommy's gonna I
guarantee my he My phone's ringing right now here.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
He is.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
He's listening to the show and he knows. It's so funny.
Garage organization has come a long way. You. I love
the lifts that go above the garage doors. That's a
perfect place think about this, okay, and Christmas is coming. Okay.
You walk out in the garage and you push a
button and it's what do they call him? Now? The
(11:28):
thing's over the garage door.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I can't remember. I'm under a lot of stress on
the show and I just found out. You go to
lunch with Tommy. Yeah, my memories. It's like it just
isn't a good day for me.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The lofts, yeah, the lofts. So you push the button,
the loft drops and now there's all your outdoor Christmas ornaments.
Then you get it done, you pack it up, you
put it back up and forget it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Let's back up the choo choo train there, Nick, most
people use world class outdoor lighting for the Christmas stuff
and they never see it. I put it up, I
take it down, and it's done. So that's what we do.
And I don't know how Nick ventured in the Christmas,
but it is coming and an awesome Christmas gift for
your family is to have Aaron come into a custom
closet for your wife and a garage for your husband.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
The information is good, the delivery sucked. The transition was awful.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
So I mean I got my whole product line in
and in like thirty seconds as genius.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna take this opportunity to take a short
break and straighten this guy out before we come back
on a news Talk eleven thirty Wiscent Huge Talk eleven
thirty wis and returning from break it snick to construction
Guru and I'm excited. There's a ton of new products
(12:44):
on the market for remodeling. If you're thinking about doing
a kitchen refresh, a bathroom refresh, a total remodel, basement
Extra Remodeling edition. Love to talk to you about that.
I say on every single show you should get two
or three opinions. We'd love it if you'd make one
of those rs. We'd love to come out and talk
to you about any of those things. You can reach
us on the worldwide Web at Cursoner Inc dot com.
(13:06):
That's k r z n E r I n C
dot com or you can call us at two six
two five six seven twenty five hundred. And remember Kursoner
is the only company in Wisconsin when a Better Business
Beer Torch Award for Ethics and Integrity three times. I
have a returning guest and we joke around a lot,
but we're good buds. We both done work for each
(13:27):
other and we've both been very satisfied. You're always doing
work for me. You do more work for me than
I do for you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Though, Mike Conor that you put in fifteen twenty years
ago is still there and it's perfect. Yeah, but I'm
gonna maybe get a I might go on to Granted
or something. I don't know. I might do what granted.
I might do a kitchen me model. I don't know.
That's my big project.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well let's let's let's look at that, because I could
probably use some uh garage flooring and some cabinets and
things like that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Once again, Nick, we cannot see the floor. Yeah, well,
how do I do a floor and even bit on it?
If I can't see it? Think about it. It's probably
all pitted and I'd be betting on the floor thinking
it's really good, because you're gonna put all the crap
on the pits and I wouldn't be able to see nothing.
I know what kind of scam artist you are. You're good,
and you're good as a contractor, you're honest with your customers.
But I know if I come to your house, you're
(14:12):
gonna scam me out of something. Yeah, he's just got
that look. Thanks Tommy Elioto. On the other hand, Nah,
he'd never do that to me. I actually did his
floor at his way. He loves his.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Floor world class. Did his lighting in Arizona too.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah. Yeah, we sent Brian down there. Surprised. Brian came back.
Apparently Tommy's got a gun in every drawer in his house.
There's word on the street.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, I don't like to talk about what Tommy's got
because Tommy gets real mad if I talk about it.
But let's just say this.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Let's just say that you told me to say.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That Tommy's Tommy's prepared for the armygeddon No, he is.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He's an impressive guy.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, he's he's actually, uh, we're not supposed to be
talking about him today.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I just figured he had a gun in every drawer
from when you come over.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So, Okay, we're going to have to stop this now,
and and we're going to stop this show. The FCC
is going to come in and crack you over the head.
I'm kidding Kevin realistically. Now. I always like to talk
about money, and I got Derek last week from Trees
on the Move to literally tell us some pricing. I
(15:18):
always try and be transparent on the show because I
think a lot of the things that we talk about
people think that it's rich man sport garage. Your organization
probably isn't top of mine awareness awareness for most people
when they're thinking about home projects. But what I do
know is that everybody that's done it always says the
same thing, Like you said, I wish I would have
(15:39):
done it sooner because everything has become organized, including the
time that you have your hobbies, your crafts or whatever
you're doing. You know, we all have our different things
that we do. I have one guy that builds and
reloads ammunition and builds guns in his garage and he's
got it all set up and has the cabinet systems
in there. So let's talk a little bit about you know,
(16:00):
an average what's the average garage? Twenty four by thirty.
Is that about average what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I mean you're looking at something like that thirty
five hundred. So much depends on, you know, the condition
of the floor. We're not going to nail you to
the cross, No, that's fine, But I'm just telling you,
if your floor is really pitted and it's cracked and
it needs a lot of work. You know, on a
garage that size, you're probably looking at fifteen hundred to
fix it. You know, that's fifteen hundred state to get
that resurfaced. It's called resurfacing. It's hard work. My guys
(16:27):
don't particularly like doing it. Unfortunately, they're very good at
it for them, so I don't shy away from them.
But it's you know, fifteen hundred eight. They got to
get that all. You know, you're you're taking and you're
putting pellets in there. It's called shot blasting, taking anything
and cracking it open even a little bit more. So
you know you got a nice stable, you know, binding experience,
(16:49):
Yeah you do. Yeah, And that's what takes time, but
it's you know, that's what you're gonna pay.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, the one that you did in Pewaukee, I'm telling
you was I'm not saying a few cracks. It was
a mess. They had poured the concrete after building walls.
So when we took the walls out that she wanted
out of the garage, there there were big, you know,
trenches in there. From the walls. There was cracking. It
was uneven when you guys got done it, I actually
couldn't believe it. And the other thing I'm going to
(17:16):
tell you, and this is God's honest truth, I can't
believe it's working. I would have thought that that concrete
was unstable, but there's no cracks in that. I've seen
her a couple of times. She actually has a little
sitting area out there where she says, Lisa does yeah,
And so when you come over, that's where you catch her.
And the floor looks beautiful.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
One of the tricks to this too is and we
realize this is you know, people are trying to accelerate
the drying time on this. When you're doing and refurbishing
a floor like that, you know, when that top is dry,
that does not mean that bottom is dry and you're
gonna go pour stuff on top of you know, chemicals
in a dry all the way through. Well, that bottom
is the most important to dry instead of the top right. Yeah,
(17:57):
so yeah, we're completely not convinced that process is going
to hold a stand the test of time. You talk
to me, I talk about all the time. Everything I do.
I want to stand the test of time.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, and if it doesn't, the difference is you guys
and anybody can check this out. They don't have to.
You know, we're on a show talking. Of course, we're
going to talk good about you most of the time.
Maybe not the whole show now that I think about it.
There'll be some things coming up. But you've been around,
You've got a long term reputation. You're not going to
let that reputation. It's like me, people say, well, they're
(18:28):
good guys, they're smart guys. You don't tarnish your reputation
because it's all you have in this business. So you know,
I have people call me up and say, hey, I
just got one today. I did business with a friend
of his that he works with, and he says, you
really don't have to sell me on your company because
I know that this guy is very picky about who
he uses. It's the same thing with world Class. You're
(18:48):
not the cheapest, you don't care if you're the cheapest,
you're not even going to purport to be the cheapest.
You don't care. What you care about is that if
there's a problem, you're going to get out there and
fix it lickety split, because that's turning lemons in the lemonade, right.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's one thing I care about. The other is walking
away from you know, when I'm done, I want to,
you know, have friends.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I literally look at those customers, we say that you're
like family. You know, I got everybody on my cell phone.
A lot of people don't do this. In fact, I
don't think there's anybody that would do this, especially if
they're doing Christmas lighting. I have everybody has my cell
phone number. If I did a crappy job, I mean
that's thousands of a thousand customers a year, whatever, three
(19:25):
hundred Christmas customers. I mean, my phone would never I
wouldn't have enough battery yea in my phone. So at
the end of the day, if we're not friends, at
the end of the day, I probably did a really
bad Yeah. You know, we can do it the easy
way or the hard way, but you're going to be
my friend when we're done. The last time that Nick
has to come over and make you be my friend.
We're going to make you be my friend.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I can't do collections for you anymore. I'm getting old.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So why we got Tommy. He's a little younger, Yeah
is he? I don't know, maybe a little he acts younger.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah. Well he shaves his head so you can't see
any gray.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That's something he does little bit on that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
But what I what I was going to say is
the last time we won the torture word at the
Better Business Bureau, they asked me to say something and
I basically said. The question was what a business? What
does integrity mean in a business? Place to you? And
I said, it's real simple. I don't have to hide
from my clients in a grocery store. And that's a
big deal, you know. I don't want to have to
hide from people I did work from for And there's
(20:22):
a lot of guys that have to write. We all know.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
How tall are you, Nick?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Six foot?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I think you ain't hiding in a grocery store. I
mean you stick out like a sore thumb too. That's
just a bad analogy. You go up to your cabin
and hide maybe, yeah, in the middle of the woods.
That's why you bought that, I think. But I get it,
I understand, but I can't imagine, and I'm sure that
you would have the same opinion. You know, a bad
day when you're in high school doing going to high school,
(20:47):
you know, you didn't do your homework and you didn't
feel so good going in the class. Well, what if
that was like that every day and you did a
crappy job and you got people that are all pissed
off at you, and you're wondering where they're going to
pop out of the woodwork, or what's going on here
or there?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And you know today you know something. Just so if
you've been in this business as long you've been in
business and contracting business as long as I have, and
you know, one of the things that I'm sure you're
going to agree with, it's changed. It used to be.
There were a few bad guys in the business that
And when I say bad guys, I don't mean bad
guys necessarily criminals, although there's plenty of those. What I'm
(21:18):
saying is guys that just have the mindset of it's
the P and L sheet, nothing else, that's all that matters.
And so they just decide what services they are going
to do based on how big of a loss they're
going to take in things like that. But today today,
I you know, fifty percent of the people out there
with with shingles in that on their houses and signs
(21:40):
on their trucks are not qualified to do what they
say they're doing and probably not ensured. Probably absolutely. Yeah.
I don't think people realize. You know, when you get
a big disparity in a bid, you need to check
because if you don't call up the insurance I've said
this on the show a million times. If I've said
it once, call up the insurance company and make sure
that the certificates still intact, because you get a year
(22:01):
certificate when you pay your first premium. If you don't
pay the next month, if it comes down to insurance
and payroll, you're gonna pay pyroll. And customers aren't asking
those questions, and that's the problem. You should be getting
evidence of insurance. You should be calling the company. Now.
I say that my customers don't ask me to do that,
but we've been in business since nineteen sixty six and
I know that you have the same thing. But when
(22:22):
you're dealing and there's a big disparity in bids, whether
it's outdoor lighting, because now we said it last week,
every single landscaper is doing outdoor lighting. Okay. It's kind
of like my auto mechanic decides to start doing dentistry.
They don't know the first thing about it, okay, but
they're going to supplement their business. I think that outdoor
(22:43):
lighting is a very specific thing that you have done.
Organizational things is a very specific thing that you have done.
And if you've got a jack of all trades and
master of none, of course you're going to have problems.
Of Course, it's going to be cheaper, and of course
you're going to be faced with issues down the line.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And that's why I have Aaron run in half of
it company and I run the other half, and we're
very specific. I'll go out and bid floors and stuff.
I like to keep my you know, pulse on the
business a little bit. But for the most part, Oh yeah,
she's segregated.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
There's no two ways about it. I've worked in collaboration
with Aaron several times. Not only is she a really decent,
honest person, but she really does know her stuff. She
really does, no two ways about it. She answers questions
that that dumbfound me sometimes from customers about different storage.
She comes up with good ideas, very innovative ideas. And
(23:30):
you guys do the three D renderings too.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, you know, it's kind of amazing when you're running
a business and you really don't appreciate a lot of
the stuff you have. And you know, I have my wife,
Sandy works there and she answers the phone. She does
a lot of the service right ups for world class
lighting needs a little bit of service here. And Aaron
that's helped out a lot. And uh, you know the
other people that we have working there. But you know,
(23:53):
between you know Aaron, Sandy, I got VICKI there, myself
in the front office. You're able to handle all that.
And they're all really all all of them are very
good at what they do. And Aaron is just honed
in on the designing aspect of that. She does a
really good job.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
We've got about two minutes left and I want to
give you the last minute to give folks numbers and stuff.
But one of the things that I am so impressed
with that I never knew and I probably should have known,
is and it's a stupid little little quirky thing. It's
those remotes that you use. I have remotes that are
twenty feet thirty feet actually ones one hundred feet away.
(24:31):
I'm standing in my house. I pushed the button. It
turns on the lights outside, turns the lights off. I mean,
there's a lot of remotes, but you got to walk
up to it and then you got to twist it
for seven different ways to get it to work. It's
just knowing those things that make what you do so
much superior.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I appreciate that nick. Those operate off of FM frequency,
and they are made by a company called Lutron, which
makes the indoor automation system. They're you know, they.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They're pioneers, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
They're phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, give out. If you're thinking about and I can
vouch for this guy because I am not only a
friend of his, but I'm a customer. If you're thinking
about outdoor lighting, if you're thinking about garage organization, you're
thinking about what they used to call California closets. I mean,
you guys do that. Most people know what those are.
Any kind of storage needs, Christmas lighting, stuff like that.
Tell them about your company, how to get a hold
(25:20):
of you.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Two six two five four nine fifty four eighty three.
I'm gonna make it simple and just give you one
number two six two five four nine fifty four eighty three.
We're in Walkie Shaw. We have a nice little showroom
and you ever see my guys out there working, especially
this time you're hanging Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Stop and say hi, Okay, Kevin. As always, I appreciate
having you on. I think you're the best in the
business and always appreciate everything except to your humor, which
you're not very good at, but we'll let that go.
Thanks for coming in on. Someone.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Is it trying to be funny about Tommy with the
guns in the drawingdow It was working.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You're not funny. It's working here. We will talk again
next week on News Talk eleven thirty WISN
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