CFB Carousel Spins Again, WBB Wins Again, Cowboys are .500 Again

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes, indeed we have made it to Friday. Isn't that
a good thing? Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to the Friday
edition of the program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone. My name is Craig Wait. Thanks so
much for joining us, and we hope your Friday's going well.
You know what I always say. If Friday is truly
indeed your regulation Monday to Friday type of thing, we say,

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good on you, good for you, and I hope you
enjoy the weekend to come. For those of you for
whom Friday merely means the middle part of your work week,
hopefully we get you over the hump. You get on
that down, he'll run. And for those of you well
who work week begins on Friday, hopefully we can get
you off to a good start. So glad to have
you with us. Well, chilli outside, it's going to be

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better tomorrow. I'm going to be warmer tomorrow. It's gonna
be in the seventies tomorrow and Sunday and THENTO Monday.
So we're glad to have you with us here on
this Friday. The producer is Jay Carmon. How did you
spend your Thursday evening last night.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh, I went out and watched the Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I watched the Cowboys and lionspent up with a couple
of friends of mine, and it was pretty Cowboys heavy crowd,
and I was there with the very fantasy football heavy crowd.
You know, it's always fun to go watch a game
with the guy you're playing against. It really, Yeah, it's fun.
Makes it's a nice reminder that it's just a game.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, I have to keep that in mind because I
am presently now. They're still the rest of the weekend ago,
but I am presently being drilled in my fantasy game.
Why you ask, because the guy I'm playing had Jamiir
Gibbs and Brandon Aubrey.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Oh, I'm sorry. The Brandon Aubrey thing is tough.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
You know, he'd be the second highest scoring tight end
in fantasy right now.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's amazing to consider that he would be that because
right now I'm down fifty one to three. I only
got three points out of George Picktts last night. Jamir
Gibbs gave him twenty eight and Aubrey gave him twenty three.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
For so, yeah, it's gonna be that kind of weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I have a feeling, but nevertheless, we move on and
get ready for a weekend in the NFL. We'll hear
from Brian Schottenheimer, the Cowboys head coach, coming off that
forty four to thirty loss to Lions where it was
like one step foward, two steps back for the Cowboys.
Last night, they spotted Detroit Leeds, started to make a push,

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got behind a him, made another push, managed to get
it at that point to within seven, and then gave
up a field goal, and then gave up two more
touchdowns and then was it. So the Cowboys are six
six and one. Their playoff probability here's one thing I
even noticed, Jake the Well. First of all, their playoff

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probability would have gone, I think, according to Prime Network
last night, to thirty nine percent if they won and
nine percent if they lost. There was another statistical Probabilities
said it would be fifty one percent, but everybody was
in agreement that their playoff chances would dip into the

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single digit percentile of a loss.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Which is exactly what happened. So anyway, tough loss for them.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
And on the flip side of that, the Lions Craig
still have not lost back to back regular season games
since Halloween of twenty twenty two. That's a stat I
heard from Brad Sham Babeloffenberg on the radio.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, impressive, impressive, you know, keeping it together. I guess
you might say by the Lions to not let it,
you know, run on and on and on. So anyway,
the Cowboys lose, and we'll hear from Brian Jotenheimer coming
up here a little bit later on. But I will

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also tell you coming up here in just a few minutes,
we're going to visit with Roger Wallace, UH sports director
k x A N here in town, my broadcast partner
in long worn football games. He'll be broadcasting a really
important high school playoff game tomorrow, the all Greater Austin
Area six a matchup between Vandy Griffin Dripping Springs. Uh,

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you know, two teams in the Greater Austin Area. So
where they gonna play their quarter file in San Antonio classic, Hey,
climate controlled environment, go to the although it would be
really nice tomorrow otherwise, but you don't know that when
you're making those plans a couple of weeks out. You know,
you and and a lot of coaches are reluctant or

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hesitant to say that they plan that far in advance
to do it because some With some it's superstition and
with others it's less about superstition and more about just
logistics of planning. But a lot of them want to
wait to see who they're playing and where they might

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be able to leverage that into a playing spot. I
had a similar conversation with the head coaches Robbie Jones
at Alito, the number one team in the state in
five A Division one, and Denton Ryan with Dave Hennigan,
the number three team in the state in five AD one.
They're playing tonight in the Metroplex, and I'll be headed

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up there following the show today and we'll call that
game on victory Plus. Tonight they're playing at Northwest High
School that's near Justin, which is kind of between Alito
and Denton. It's kind of between Fort Worth and Denton.
So what's kind of about equidistant close to that? And

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I asked each coach, I said, any specific attachment to that?
Was it just geography? And one said, well, we'd liked
one stadium but it wasn't available. And then the other
coach said, well, we were talking about one stateiument was
a different one than the first coach Tibo. He said
that wasn't available and he goes but it's geographically pretty
close between and the facility is big enough to seat

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two large fan groups because it will be two large
fan bases who were there for that game. So there's
a lot of machinations that go into that. And in
the case of vander Ritten and dripping springs, I think
this was all about climatology because knowing the coaches as
I know them, and especially once you get to about
the quarterfinal round, if you can play in a climate

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controlled environment in December.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's what you want.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And that's what will happen in the Alamodome tomorrow afternoon,
three o'clock. So Roger Rossell Jones, we'll talk also about
Texas men's and women's basketball, obviously the college football playoff
and this weekend to come out of I've also heard
an interesting theory that has been emanating from north of

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the Red River about a possible slide for Oklahoma, and
it's not what you would think it would be.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
And I'll just leave it at that for the moment.
We'll get to it.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
We'll get to it a little bit later on, so
we'll do that also Texas women's basketball, as the Texas
women were able to pull away from North Carolina. Good
matchup in the acc SEC Challenge, and early on Texas
struggled with some straight line drives and North Carolina actually

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built a seven point lead late in the first quarter.
They're up twenty one to fourteen. Long Worn scored right
before the end of the quarter to cut it to
twenty one to sixteen, and then Texas went on a
big run in the second quarter, just as they had
done the other day in their matchup against penn And
in that second quarter that's where they really took command
of the basketball game. Jordan Lee had a lot to
do with that. She had a career high twenty two points.

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We'll hear from Jordan Lee. We'll obviously also hear from
a Vic Schaeffer. We do have inconceivable this hour coming up.
It's a Friday, Jay Carman. What is inconceivable on Friday?

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Mean?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
For those who don't.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Well, that means that we say it, go ahead, hop
on a plane.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, okay, you're extrapolating, but go ahead, more of us.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Okay, So the most flaccid of the lower forty eight.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
There you go to grab the low hanging fruit that
is Florida Man in this holiday season. So we'll have
that coming up as well. We'll look forward. We'll look
forward to that. There are other things to get to
as well, on the college football front, the pro football front,
the NBA as well, so there's plenty to discuss here,

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and of course the weekend high school football, like I
mentioned with Roger, will visit certainly about we'll certainly visit
with Roger and talking about the matchup between Vandergriff and
Dripping Springs, and we'll get his thoughts. Also on Lake
Travis their playoff game. We lost another area team last night.
Last night, there were two games played in the state

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of Texas and one of those involved the Mason Punchers,
who were taken out by Refurio, who's the number one
team in to a Division one. It's going to be
difficult to see them losing, so we'll see how that
all goes all right Up next Roger Wallace will join
us and we'll talk a variety of topics here on
this Friday afternoon right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen

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under the Zone and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Just say on brad Jay and Christmas Day, that's in.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
The island greeting that.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
We send you from the land where palm tree.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Here in all the Christmas will be green, and why
the sun will shine by day and all the stars night.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Is a wise way the same Americ Christmas.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Thank you girl.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
So here we are on Friday, And normally I do
say normally that because we're we're in the single digit
days in December, Normally it's a little early for me
to be bumping back with the Christmas music there. But listen,
there's a specific reason for that, because this isn't the

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bing Crosby edition of Melech Leaky Makat. No, it's one
and only Jimmy Buffett. It does a pretty good rendition
of it. Of course, if we're bumping back with Jimmy Buffet,
that means we're visiting you with Roger Wallace, my broadcast
partner long range football and also works with us on
men's women's basketball and baseball and sports director in.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
His day job at k x A N Joe, Is
it safe.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
To say that you have this particular rendition somewhere in
your playlist?

Speaker 8 (10:53):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (10:54):
Yeah, he's got a he's a whole Christmas album Christmas Island.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
So you have the Christmas Island, then I do.

Speaker 9 (11:03):
And he's got some originals along.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
With some obvious covers. Yeah, but oh.

Speaker 9 (11:08):
Yeah we uh if he's singing it, we've got it.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah. Well that's the one that that's the one I
think that's most recognized that he does cover. What is
is there another one that you favor of of of
his not not an original but a cover?

Speaker 7 (11:24):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I have to think about that.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
You kind of surprised me with the Buffet Christmas music,
right Christmas? Well, the one I love the name of
out the Covernet, the title track Christmas Island is pretty
good because you can imagine that's that's got his his
spin on it. But uh yeah, I'm I'm down with
whatever he he sings with the with the holiday music.

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I'm not a huge holiday music guy. So he's a
good he's a good compromise because I can always find
a good reason to listen to some Buffett and you
know the Christmas.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Baby, So.

Speaker 10 (11:59):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow, I didn't know.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
My family doesn't think it's very funny when every Christmas
morning I say, let's celebrate Jimmy Buff's birthday.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
They kind of they're kind.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
Of worn out on that.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I have a brother, My younger brother was born on
Christmas Day, hence his name Chris. And uh and uh
he always kinda we always kind of as kids looked
at us like he gets double the gifts, which he
kind of did. Uh and and he would say, yeah,
but nobody remembers that it's my birthday on Christmas. Nobody

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remembers that other than parents when he was younger.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
You know that kind of deal. So I guess it does.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (12:38):
I tell my mom I used to call her on
her birthday and joke about it. For celebrating Joe Montana's
birthday again today.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
There's another way to look at it.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
I know you and I do the same thing where
a kid, we look up all the birthdays around our
famous you know, athletes and stuff around our birthday.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yes, how about you. I have a great one.

Speaker 9 (13:00):
And I think elgind Baylor maybe.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Or that on yours that's my Elgin Baylor's home. Yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 9 (13:05):
That was the closest uh I got. I got the Pope,
by the way, I learned that the current, so.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
The current one, Yes, yes, oh wow, okay.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Better than me. I got John Wilkes Booth.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Oh wow, okay.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think in addition to Elgin Baylor, I've got Oral Harschheiser,
Robin Yellt and uh and then what's really cool, the
late Eartha Kit and.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
B b Keing.

Speaker 9 (13:35):
Uh, nice wide range.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I can't complain too much. I've got Greg Maddox and
Pete Rose.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Well there you go, all right, So there you have it.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay. We asked Roger to hop on with us today
this afternoon to discuss more than birthdays or the holidays.
But uh, I want to start really with uh the
college football playoff thing.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
We'll we'll uh we'll get to it.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
You know, we'll obviously see who's in, who's out, and
everybody's expecting obviously Texas to not make the final cut.
First of all, did you hear the Vic Schaefer rant
on this, because it's it's oh yeah, oh man. Have
I gotten a lot of feedback on that, all positive
people loving it and all that kind of stuff. When
he said it's not even fruit to fruit, I think
it was. It was one of the comment and it's

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that sort of thing. But I guess he's also Vic
always has a take on so many different things, but
I guess he's also expressing what a lot of folks feel,
and he just put it into a four minute, thirty
seven second rant.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I think about it, So it's something else.

Speaker 9 (14:37):
Yeah, if you if you listen to the it was
on the zoom before the North Carolina and if you
listen right afterwards you can hear so you're on the
fence about this.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
That was That was me chiming in. He went through that.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yes, that's true now, even even as Vic has weighed
in on it, I mean Sark, Sark gave some really
good reasoning for why Texas should be in it. By
the time he came into us and sat down and
did the one on one would be before the signing
day news conference, I got the vibe he'd made peace
with it. Not happy about it, but made peace with

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it given the way it is.

Speaker 9 (15:17):
Yeah, and he kind of had that in his news conference.
He kind of felt that way. And his final comment,
I think on his second second thought was got to
win more games.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
And if they.

Speaker 9 (15:30):
Value if you devalue losses more than you value wins,
or you ding teams for losses more, then clearly that three.
I've been saying it all along. I've been saying it
since they the Georgia game. The three, I think is
just gonna it's humans and they see the three and
an easy way just to say, all right, we'll take
them out of consideration because of the three.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, because you can't.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
Argue with the wins, and you can't argue with the
non conference schedule, and you you have to I understand
the take on the Georgia game, and I'm you know,
I think it's somewhere in between where you know, it
was a four quarter game, yes that's a fact, but
it was twenty one nothing in the fourth quarter, and
that did happen, So you have to you know, it's
a sixty minute game.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
That's what everybody says.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Right.

Speaker 9 (16:17):
Well, then in the end it was the score. It
was now, it was a close game for the better
part of what forty seven, forty eight, forty nine minutes,
but it got away from him and that didn't help,
you know, thirty five twenty eight, much different perception. But
still you're sitting there with those three losses, and it's
just a it's an uphill climb from there.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
I think.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
The other the other thing that caught my attention about
this Roger was Hunter Yurachek, the the the implanted committee chairman,
with mac Rhodes stepping away from it, was as kind
of point blank on the on the conference call with
the national media after the selection show, if was the

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Florida loss or the Ohio State loss that was hurting
Texas more and didn't he didn't mince any words.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
He said it was the Florida loss.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
So and again the double side of that argument, sark
side is we didn't have to play Ohio State. If
we didn't play Ohio State, if in other words, in
his he didn't say this, but if they played a
Georgia State or somebody like that, or you know, a
cream puff or something like that, and one handily, and
to go back to his words, quote, we wouldn't be

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having this conversation. The other side of that, the folks
that beat Florida and insert the words, we wouldn't be
having this conversation. So there's two ways of looking at it.
But when the committee chairman says it's the Florida thing,
you know how they're looking at it like you said
the three the number three.

Speaker 7 (17:48):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 9 (17:50):
You know we saw Florida against Florida State. So I've seen,
you know, okay, go down the list of comparisons and
what Florida State did to Alabama and then what Florida did.
You know, if Alabama loses, they have three losses and
they kind of have that common thread there and Alabama
lost to OHU and uh oh Texas beat OU. But

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if they don't play Ohio State, then those four games
leading up to Florida looks so you know, looks so
bad because those three other non conference just the way
those teams and all those teams have had some success
in recent years that they played in that three game
stretch at home, but just so happened this year they.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Were all pretty bad.

Speaker 9 (18:31):
So then you're you're getting dinged for the four games
that you've played leading up to the SEC saying basically
you're just playing in SEC schedules.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
So it's easy to.

Speaker 9 (18:40):
Say that now because they played Ohio State, but if,
like you said, if they played a group of five team,
then all of a sudden, they're not even in the
thought process for four weeks other than OHLOKHS Texas is
playing UH and they're just all they're doing is putting
all their eggs in the sec basket.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Maybe that's enough.

Speaker 9 (18:58):
I don't know, but I think everybody can counter anything
when it comes to Texas because they're kind of a
lightning rod school right now.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right on that, and I
want to I want to throw something outs at you
and see what you think of this. I got a
series of texts last night from people. A couple of
them are friends from north of the Red River.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yes, I do have friends north of the Red River.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think all of us can admit to at least
having one friend north of the Red River. And they're
hearing rumblings up there now. Maybe it's just because they're
a little lantcy until the final thing comes out, but
I think everybody's inn agreement that Oklahoma safely in the field.
But what they're hearing is is that there's a very

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real possibility that the committee may drop Oklahoma to number nine.
And the reason that they would drop them the number
nine doesn't have to do with the winds and losses.
They would drop them the number tw because you see
coming up that playoff weekend is graduation weekend on the
campus of the University of Oklahoma, and there are no

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hotel rooms to be had in Norman and very few
in Oklahoma City, so that that's something else that the
committee has to take hundred it. Now, you and I
have had enough experience broadcasting baseball regions where this kind
of weird stuff kind of happens a little bit, and
football's on a much larger scale, which is both a

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plus and a minus. There you can say, wow, you know,
they'd have more hotel room, but on a graduation weekend,
if they don't have any hotels available in Norman, it's
not like they have a bunch anyway. And then if
Oklahoma City's booked up, might the committee put the Sooners
on the road as a result of that?

Speaker 4 (20:44):
This is a nine seed.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
That would be that would be incredible, and I would
hope they would be one hundred percent transparent about that,
because who.

Speaker 10 (20:54):
Are you going?

Speaker 9 (20:55):
They're not playing right, Notre Dames are playing. If BYU
wins in Alabama wins, and you can understand, I get
Oakland beat Alabama. We've seen other teams ahead of teams
that beat them, So yeah, I could see them jumping
Alabama or BYU just because they want a conference championship.
But now would be that would be something else if

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that happened, for for just sheer logistics.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well, and then here's the other thing too, you know,
remember what was it Indiana State couldn't host a super
region base.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
The first thing I thought of, yea, And when you
brought this.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Up, yeah, yeah, it's happening. And there's been a couple
of other situations like that as well over the years.
But it made me think when Hunter Yurcheck the other
night was asked by Rhees Davis, and then he was
asked again on that on that national media conference call,
is there a possibility that teams who were idle couldn't move?

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Last year?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
The answer was an unequivocal no from Ward Manual, the
Michigan ad was the chairman of the committee. This year,
he said, you know, maybe, you know, yeah, it's possible
it could happen. And I wonder if that was part
of what was on the table for them, which they
have not yet brought to the surface, that yes, we

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could have some idle teams move because Oklahoma has no
rooms at the end or something like that, you know,
but he wasn't going to say that publicly. Made me
wonder about that.

Speaker 9 (22:25):
Though, Yeah, and I'll go back to last year. Why
would you ever say something can't happen?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
You know, why would you always leave the door open
for it?

Speaker 9 (22:34):
Well, we'll see how it shakes out before you just
you know, make a blanket statement that you've pit you
backed yourself into a bit of a corner because of
a result that that might happen. And so yeah, I
don't I don't know why you would ever just say no,
that won't happen and pretty much lock some teams in

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because you know that we don't know the results and
what's gonna happen. What's going to happen in Arlington tomorrow,
what's gonna happen you know, in in Atlanta and tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, that's a good point. Roger Wallace joining us here
on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundreds, and all right, let's
turn our attention to the high school front. And before
we get to the game that you and Keith Morland
be calling tomorrow, let's say with the area I mentioned
this and as you texted me last night as well,
we were both you know, aligned with hearing about Mason falling.

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The Refeio or Refurio is the top team in two
A Division one, So that's no big surprise there, but
there are some remaining teams Alanto still out there, and
then of course Lake Travis before we get to the
other six A matchup, and Lake Travis has San Antonio Johnson.
I saw this Johnson team play earlier this year. They
are explosive, But to me, I think the way Lake

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Travis has played defense, that's how you win state championships.
I've noticed over the years, and they seem to have
one of the best defenses in the state. Yeah, and
I point to.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
The game we're doing tomorrow and Dripping Springs and the
fact that Lake Travis beat a team averaging over forty
points a game, fourteen to seven. So that tells me
all I need to know about that defense. We saw
him in person against brandice Back a couple of weeks
ago in Sam Marcus on a rainy Thursday night, and
you know, they gave up one big drive and then

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they kind of got things under control. But I always
go back to at this time of year, I just
trust to Lake Travis maybe a little bit more than
a you know, you look at what Johnson's done. They
played a lot of close ballgames and they seem like
they have an explosive offense.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
You've seen them in person.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
I haven't, but I just trust Lake Travis probably a
little bit more when you're talking all things considered.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Okay, let's talk about this matchup you and Keith have tomorrow.
It's weird. It's in that it is the first time
ever it's been it has been researched, first time ever
two teams played in August and then met in December.
It's never happened before in Texas high school football that

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they started in August and then wound up playing. And
I think the sixty fourteen bracket has something to do
with that, as well as the calendar and all those things.
But you got to be good as well, and in
advance to the regional final, the state quarterfinal round, how
much have the coat? What have the coaches told you?
What is Drew Sanders at Vandergriff and Galen Zimmermann at
Dripping Springs told you about what is useful of anything

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from the first meeting between these two.

Speaker 9 (25:40):
What they say and what they think might be two
different teams things. But they both said without provocation of nothing.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
It was so long ago.

Speaker 9 (25:48):
It was you know, like you said, it was August,
it was thirteen games ago. It was players that have
had to adjust to new roles. It was a quarterback
for Vandergriff that's been battling a show problem and then
re injured the shoulder and now he's getting healthier. But
on the flip side, you had a young junior quarterback

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in Chase Ames at Dripping Springs that has just been
lights out, and so I don't think they put much
stuck into anything out in the fact that you know,
traditionally it's tougher to beat a team twice, and we
do see it sometimes in the playoffs that they have
to play a second time, and these two teams have
had that happen where they've split regular season in playoffs.

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So they say nothing they might think otherwise, just because
you have to think something when you actually line.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Up against the team and you.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
That you did well and you remember some things where
you were exposed a little bit.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Yeah, no doubt about it. And both teams are playing
at a level right now where it's pretty easy to
shelve the game from August. Health has something to do it.
And I always ask coaches, I know you do this
as well, ask coaches how healthy they are in December,
because it matters an awful lot as to whether they're

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going to be successful, and most coaches will say were reasonably.
If you're still advancing in the playoff, chances are you're
pretty healthy. And it sounds like, in the case of
vandergriff which has had more injuries than Dripping Springs, that
maybe they're finally, if not close to one hundred percent healthy,
getting close to it anyway.

Speaker 9 (27:26):
Yeah, and the big one is a quarterback just because
he's been playing with a shoulder that you know clearly
he doesn't quite have the zip that he had and
will have once.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
He's one hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (27:37):
I mean, you're talking about a guy that you know,
last year in that state championship run, the numbers were
off the chart for Tideki and this year he hasn't
quite hit two thousand yards, so he's getting healthier. Justin
Moore hasn't played their top running back in a few weeks,
so that's been a problem. But on the other side,
you've got Cooper Reid, the outstanding receiver for Dripping Springs.

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It's you know, banged up, but he's been playing unhealthy
and doing a nice job. He was a signing day flip,
you know, from Arizona State to TCU. And so I
think I think the biggest one is the quarterback. And
Drew Sanders thinks that every week Ta deck he gets
a little closer to what he did last year when

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he threw for over thirty two hundred yards and forty
eight touchdowns compared to nineteen hundred and fourteen touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Well, it'll be tomorrow afternoon, three o'clock.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
You can catch it live on KBVO, as He'll tell
I know, I'll be I'll be back from the Metroplex,
so I'll be in the easy chair watching as well.
Appreciate the time, right. You know. The other thing I
was going to mention, did the coaches saying anything about
the fact I figure it was just a fad of
complete that they were going to play in the Alamodum
because coaches like to play in climate controlled environments this
time of year, even though the high to mar is

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gonna be seventy and sunny.

Speaker 9 (28:52):
Right, Yeah, And well, and you know, Evander Grip's a
little gun shy after, like I said, that playoff game
against Brandon guys where they delayed the start, had a
third quarter delay and yeah, I'm pretty sure they locked
that up as soon as they could. I'm surprised a
little bit. It's not part of a multiple game Saturday
at the Alamodome, which.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
We've seen before.

Speaker 9 (29:14):
I remember triple header with three Austin area teams down there,
including that McCallum win over Corpus Christy Cal that the
call Allen. Yeah, they shocked Cal Allen down there to
get to the state semifinals. But yeah, just a single
game at the Dome. But we're pretty excited to We'll
drive the extra distance to know everything's going to be

(29:36):
Everything's gonna.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Be very comfortable. Absolutely. Hey Rod, thanks have a good
call tomorrow and we'll see you soon.

Speaker 9 (29:41):
Same to you today. Thanks Greg.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
All right, that's Roger Wallace from k x AN. We'll
have today's Inconceivable coming up on sports Radio AM thirteen
under the zone of the iHeartRadio app. Second hour of

(30:09):
the program here on Sports Radio AM fourteen hundred the
Zone on this Friday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Craig Way alongside the producer Jay Fremling.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Glad you're with us as well. And this is probably
from the files of if a tree fell in the
forest and nobody was around that it didn't make a noise.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
You mean that guy's wife from Florida earlier?

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Hopefully not here. Here's here's here's a story. Did anybody
notice that Lebron James streak of double figure scoring ended
last night?

Speaker 4 (30:44):
NBA?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
People probably did for sure. And you say, okay, so
how long was this streak? How about one ninety seven
consecutive games? Think about that for a moment. Twelve hundred
ninety seven consecutive double digit regular season scoring efforts, and

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that was an NBA record. He scored eight in score
ten or more. The Lakers beat the Raptors last night,
but he had the game winning assist Rory Hachimura's three
pointer as time expired. Folks thought he was going to
drive it down the lane and he gave up the

(31:27):
record to pass to the open man Hatchamura, who knocked
down the shot. And he was asked, what thoughts do
you have about this streak ending twelve hundred ninety seven
consecutive games NBA record? He goes none. We won. So
listen Lebron for whatever you want to say about him,

(31:48):
and I understand, and he deserved, I think really deserved
a lot of criticism for the way that that very
uncomfortable thing back in twenty ten, and he was still
pretty young at the time, in his twenties, about taking
his talents to South Beach, the televising of it, the
decision with the smarmy Jim Gray doing the interview, you know,

(32:12):
whatever you may think of him about that. And I
certainly understand that he's always been a team oriented guy.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
He's never had trouble off the floor.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's always been a good family guy, all of those
other kinds of whatever you want to call it, role
modelesque type things. And a teammate, and that was a teammate,
and he found Hatamura for the game winning bucket. By
the way, Hatchamura apparently good buddies with Yoshinobu Yamamoto of

(32:41):
the Dodgers. In fact, the other night a Lakers game,
they gave Yamamoto a Laker jersey there and he was
posing for photos with his buddy Rory Hachimura.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, I miss ruey in DC.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, he did play. He did play there in Washington.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
And I think he's found the right role for him.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
It doesn't necessarily have to be LA, but he was
better served as a as a role player the Wizards
don't have the type of stars to make him a role.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Did the Wizards? That I see it right last night
when I looked at highlights. So they wear those really weird,
ugly like copper and black uniforms. It makes me think
of Gilbert Arenas and him carrying the gun in the
back as it was during that time.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Did they wear those last night?

Speaker 3 (33:22):
They wore the uh yeah, but they messed these up.
They used to be pretty sleek gold uniforms with kind
of three stars down the side homage to the DC flag.
These are striped versions of that that I'm seeing in
the highlights. And because remember Craig, I quit the Wizards,
Yeah you did? You did so last night I had,

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you know, the Cowboys game on a big screen and
Texas women off to the side. And I have not
watched this team play one complete game this season.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Has it hurt me? Not in the slightest? Okay, but
they messed up the copper jersey.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
These are pretty ugly.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, they look kind of copper, don't they.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
It's not anyway I happen to notice that made me
think of Gilbert Arenas because they were wearing those kinds
of jerseys back then at the time he had the
gun and all that other stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
The court looks like gray.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Also, this looks like the court at one of those
college basketball invitationals that happens in a ballroom.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
What are they doing?

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah, yeah, So anyway, it was a mess in that.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Going back to Lebron, he could have tried to drive
it down, but he passed to how Shamura, as I mentioned,
and then he celebrated when Hatchamura connected on the three.
His Coote was just playing the game the right way.
You always make the right play. That's just been mymo.
That's how I was taught the game. I've done that
my whole career. JJ Reddick, the coach, said, Lebron is

(34:45):
acutely aware of how many points he has at that point.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
He did it like he's done so many times.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
So listen, players are aware of where they are. You're
you're going to hear.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
It in in.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
My conversation after the game after the women's game last
night with Jordan Lee, she had a career high twenty
two and she knew it when she hit it, So
players are aware of it. Rory Harmon is aware of
what she's doing with Rex. She's eleven shy of eight
hundred assists now after having passed kemmy Ethridge to become

(35:27):
the all time assist leader at Texas.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
So she's acutely aware of that.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
But we're going to hear from Vick Shaffer coming up
in a few minutes talking about the women's win last
night and then getting ready to go back to work,
and they're going to play prairie View A and M. Now,
I know many of you think, my Prairie View, it's
gonna be another blowout of a swack team, so on
so forth. There is a Longhorn connection to this. Prairie

(35:57):
View A and M has a new head coach, the
first year head coach. It's her first time to be
a head coach. She's been an assistant in other places.
Her name is ty Dillard Mouton. And he said, wait, Manue,
wait a minute, I think I recognize both of those names.
Ty Dillard was an outstanding guard on the two thousand

(36:18):
and three Texas Final fourteen. Brandon Mouton was outstanding swingmen
shooting guard slash forward on the two thousand and three
Men's Final fourteen. They both went to the Final four
that year. I had a lot of fun. I called
two final four games in twenty four hours in between,
an eight hour drive from New Orleans to Atlanta overnight

(36:40):
in between. It was a lot of fun. But Ty
was a big part of the women's team. Brandon was
a big part of the men's team. They started dating
in college. He ended up getting married. They've been married
for several years now. And now Tye, who has made
her career. She'd been an assistant at Rice in some
other place. Her brother, of course, Jarrett Dillard from here
outstanding receiver at Rice, and ty had been an assistant

(37:03):
in different places. And now she's a head coach, her
first opportunity to be a head coach or first season
as she's the coach of Prairie View. So she'll bring
them in. Obviously it's a mismatch on Sunday, but there's
that nice little connection there, and I think they'll welcome
her back on Sunday as she brings just like we've

(37:24):
seen with some other one Javon Phelips when he came
in with New Orleans last year on the men's side.
So I think we'll see that coming up on Sunday afternoon.
That's at two o'clock and you can hear the game
here on thirteen under the Zone beginning at one forty
five to the tip off as at two o'clock. Men's

(37:44):
next action comes on Monday night against Southern University, and
it's a unique week for the Men because they played
obviously the loss of Virginia and the acc SEC Challenge
lost to them on Wednesday night. Last night, we have
Long Worn Weekly with Sean Miller, and we're going to

(38:07):
bring you a segment of that coming up at the
four o'clock hour as we'll visit with Chris Ogden and
Coach Miller. So that's coming up in the four o'clock hour.
But Coach Miller, you know, he he did not mince
words about how his team was outplayed and now they
have work to do to try to get ready against Well,
we'll hear from Sean Miller, and also from from Chris Ogden,

(38:31):
the general manager and former Long Worn player, whose son
bo Is is a signee in this signing class of
two of bo Ogden and Austin Gooseby for this Texas program.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
So we'll hear from that coming up next hour.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
But it's an unusual week for the Men because they
will start off the week on Monday Night with a
home game. They don't play too many Mondays these days
because the SEC doesn't that rarely plays Big Monday games.
The Big Monday contests are usually reserved for Big East

(39:08):
and Big Twelve. Texas used to play a lot of
Big Mondays in the days of the Big Twelve, but
they play very few of those games now. It's mainly Tuesdays,
some Wednesdays, and then of course on Saturdays are usually
the days that they play. This because you're in non

(39:30):
conference play, the schedule has to be a little bit
more flexible.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
So as such, the Long.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Warns you're going to play Monday Night against Southern University
at seven o'clock, and you can hear it on the
Zone as well as on ninety eight point one FMK
that comes your way six thirty airtime at a seven
o'clock tip off on that and then on Friday they
will be in Hartford, Connecticut to take on the Yukon Huskies.

(40:00):
And even that's a little bit different than normal because
in prior seasons when Texas has played at Connecticut, when
they have taken on Yukon, they've played them in Yukon's
home arena, Gamble Pavilion that's in stores, Connecticut. Both the
men and women have played there. Both have played Yukon

(40:22):
in Hartford, but it's rare. In fact, both teams have
only played Yukon in Hartford one time, and you have
to go all the way back, like to the start
of the twenty first century to find that. But Texas
will play Yukon in Hartford on Friday night, so that part.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Is unusual as well. And then they'll come back after that.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
So those are the things that are down the road
for long worn men's basketball. Also, we're going to hear
from Brian Schottenheimer, the Cowboys head coach, the loss of
the Detroit Lions. Mathematically, the long Oorns are still a
long oorne. The Cowboys are still alive. And I think
I saw something this morning Jake that said, if they

(41:03):
win the remaining four games, So if they finish ten
six and one, if they run the table, and they
are I think all winnable games. When I look at
what's left on their schedule, I think if they win
those four games, they have a fifty one percent chance
to get into the playoffs. If they win the remaining

(41:24):
four games. But right now, after losing to the Lions
last night, those playoff chance percentages dropped to I think
nine percent.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
NFL's next gen stats have it down at seven percent
because now they have a Detroit Lions problem.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
They're at eight.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Lions are eight and five and still on the outside
looking in. There won't be a tie that comes into
the picture, unless, of course, the Lions have a tie.
But it's still a problem that the Lions gain ground.
The Carolina Panthers are still in the wild card hunt.
Their schedule gets pretty favorable down the stretch too.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
That win over the Rams was gigantic Carolina Off of that,
we'll look at the NFL weekend schedule as well coming up.
But up next, we'll hear from Texas women's head coach
Fick Schaeffer in the aftermath of the Longhorns eighty eight
to sixty nine went over North Carolina and the acc
SEC challenge. When we continue on sports Radio AM thirteen
under the zone of the iHeart Radio app. You know,

(42:23):
I don't know if it's quite cold enough for our
tenth avenue freeze out, but the boss might beg the
different merce springsteam.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
It's cold up there for sure. Chiley here today, but
it's gonna warm up over the weekend. We continue here
on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and the
iHeart Radio app. Long Horns won handily last night women's basketball,
but it didn't start out that way. In the acc
SEC Challenge number two Texas number eleven North Carolina. Carolina

(42:57):
scored three quick early baskets on straight line drives and
they used some of their size inside sixty four sophomore
Sierra Toomey, also Alena Arnie Salo as well, and then
of course India Navar their outstanding score who's had a
triple double this year that included ten steals in a game.

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And North Carolina did get out to a seven point
lead in the first quarter at twenty one to fourteen.
Long Worns were down twenty one to sixteen into the
first quarter and then kicked it in the high Gear
had a nine to ozer run and later had a
twelve to two run. By halftime, Texas was up eight
and then they were up seventeen at the end of

(43:41):
the third quarter, extended it the margin I think to
as high as twenty two before settling for a fifteen
point seventy nine to sixty four win in that you
had a career high twenty two points from Jordan Lee.
You had several others. Madison Booker did her usual number
at sixteen points. She performed well. Rory Harmon had eight

(44:02):
assist in the ball game. After the game, the thoughts
from head coach Vick Schaeffer.

Speaker 6 (44:08):
Well, first of all, just I think North Carolina is
really good, y'all. I think Courtney's doing a great job
with that group. I think they're super talented. I think
obviously they're right now they're the best team.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
In the a c C.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
And we were very concerned about them, or I was
coming into the game tonight because I think they're really
really talented and she's done a great job with them.
But again, we started off sleep walking a little bit,
and that first quarter is is you know, we got

(44:47):
down seven and just spent the first ten minutes kind
of coaching their heart tonight a little bit. And and
then that second quarter we really turned it up defensively
and and we're much better twenty three to ten.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
In the second quarter, I think.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
They went three for eleven from the field, and we
had forced them into.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Eleven turnovers in the first half, So.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
You know, I can sit up here and nitpick, which
they know I will, But at the end of the day,
I couldn't be prouder of a bunch of kids right
now that are really having to do something that's extremely
hard in that we have very little bench, very little depth.
Our guards are playing forty minutes, you know, bookers, getting
everybody's attention, and so when that happens, you have other

(45:39):
players that are able to step up. Jordan's really stepped
up tonight, went ten for sixteen, two for five from three,
and had four offensive rebounds.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Like I'm about to.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Fall out of the chairs, but you know, we always
talk about rebounding. She and I just trying to get
her on the defense boards a little bit.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Tonight. She really did a great job getting on the
offensive boards.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
And I think that's what makes our team so special, y'all,
is we have multiple weapons and you just can't focus
on one or two kids. I thought Kyla was really
good off the bench tonight. We started her in the
second half. She went six for twelve and went fourth
to forth free throw line, which I love. So you know,

(46:30):
we're just you know, and I tell them all the time,
the one thing that's that you can count on in
life is adversity like it's coming and we've got it
right now.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
And all they do is put their head down and
they go to work.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
And they have met it head on now, three teams
in the top ten.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
It's just amazing. Really, I mean, they get again. I can,
I can get nickpicky all I want.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
But at the end of the day, when it's over
and I sit back, I'm really amazed and proud of
this group of what they're.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
Doing and how they're doing it.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Again, We're not We're not standing around in a two
three zone playing hope you missed defense. We're playing hard.
We have people in the passing lane. Deny Jordan had
big steel, a couple of them maybe yep, she had
two big steels for us. Booker's been, you know, really good,
getting five, and she's had a couple.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Of six game steals. Rory had three tonight.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
So we just.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
We're figuring it out, you know, we're finding a way
in some really adverse conditions.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
So really proud of this group.

Speaker 6 (47:41):
It's Justice's birthday, and so she got surprised tonight with
her family being here. She didn't think they were gonna
be he or your sister was here. Two of her
sisters were.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Here, So.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
You know, Taya, Taya is a little dinged up now.
So we're about at six and a half is where
we're at. And tonight she makes you three with one eye.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
So with North Carolina getting a lot of those straight
line dry buckets early and playing well in the paint early,
how was his team able to limit them, especially in
the second half.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Well, we talked about paint points.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
They had twenty out of thirty one of their points
in the first half was in the paint, and so
we really talked about trying to keep them in front
of us. They're really explosive, their guards are really really good.
Five player can stretch you, and so they're problematic.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
I mean, they're going to in a ton of games.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
And so again for us, when we talked about it
at halftime, twenty out of thirty one of their points
was in the paint.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
That's two thirds.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
So we really wanted to and you know, tonight and
we really struggled even getting back in three defense, which
is our half court.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
I couldn't get them back fast enough, you know.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
But I'll take the blame for that because I hadn't
only worked on it one day for like eight minutes
because I'm trying to save their legs a little bit,
and so it was a problem. It was something we
were concerned about going into the game, and they certainly,
you know, did a good.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Job of that in the first half.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Coachefer was asked a number of questions about what added
up to making this performance as solid as it was,
and it's a really good basketball team.

Speaker 6 (49:29):
I attributed to how these kids prepare and practice every day,
their chemistry, their communication skills. You know, Jordan's kind of
my leader in that regard. When she's communicating talking, she
is really really you know, it just permeates through my team.

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Rory tonight was in help on pick and roll defense,
laying in the lane and then they'd throw it to
her her on the corner and she'd be there on
the on the catch, she was right there. So, you know,
I thought, all of our kids, we have really good chemistry,
and we all when we got going in the second quarter,
it was off of our defense, and so our kids

(50:11):
kind of felt that and so they I think they
understand how important it is, and so I attributed it
to this is who we are this is how we play,
This is how we practice every day, and they understand
the importance of.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Doing it.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
We're trying to get everybody to do it. We're still
not in everybody defensive team, and it seems like the
opposing team always finds the one person that might be relaxing.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
So we got to work on that.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Justice. Carlton has been hot of late. She had ten
points in the third quarter last night. She had ten
points in the second quarter last Sunday at eighteen oh run.
So Vick was asked if Carlton coming off the bench
is playing with the motor that he's talked about wanting
on offense.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
On that end, yeah, on offense, she she loves that end.
I'm trying to get her to play a little harder
on the other end. We ain't football, we don't get
sub in and out when we go to the other end.
And so, you know, getting her to to really understand
how hard you got to play on that end and
be solid, be tough, you know, that's that's the next

(51:26):
step for her, and you know she's it's so important
for us between her and Taya to find that.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Find that middle ground where we're playing both ends.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
Yet we can be offensive minded, be aggressive on offense,
and yet on defense.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Not be a liability.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
And you know, tonight we had I thought we took
some plays off, especially in the first quarter. Our whole
team did. And of course I'm living and dying with that.
I just between you know, Rory, don't ever turn it over.
So when she has a turnover, I lose my mind.
Not fair, it's just me. Uh and she's been with
me five years now, so she's learned to understand that

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we're just both that way.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
But then the other.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
Piece is taking taking place off like I just I
see it, and it bothers me because when you've got
four people out there that are really doing it, they're
really living it, and you got somebody over there that's
just kind of kicking it, it just don't work.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
It don't make that. It doesn't make the team work.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
So you know, it's it's something that again I consider
her nitpick all I want. We just beat North Carolina
at home, you know, a really good team, and uh,
I can nitpick, which I will, But at the end
of the day, these kids allow me to coach them.
If you can't coach your best players hard at the
hardest it's a problem. And our kids allowed me to

(52:53):
coach them and they know I want what's best for
them and best for our team.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Carlton being a sophomore, and Jordan Lee being a sophomore,
and Brianna Preston, even though she's out injured right now, sophomore,
the sophomores have really stepped up, and coach Aber was
asked about that maturation process for those sophomores and how
they're starting to transition to being real weapons.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Well, Jordan, you know is to me, we have three.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
We have three perimeter players now that people have to
really focus on. Booker's always going to get everybody's best defender,
big guard, whoever that's gonna be. You can't do anything
with Rory, so I don't care who you put with her.
She's not gonna be bothered. So then you have your
third defender, Well, what are you gonna do with her?
Because if you don't put her on it, if you
don't put your second one on Rory, then she's gonna

(53:50):
hurt you.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
And so Jordan is really.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
I think giving us some a compliment, but it's not
just a compliment. I mean, she goes ten for eighteen
to night and had great looks. And she's making shots
tonight tonight, and so you know that's the thing. You know,
these kids, they get in the gym, they spend time Booker.
We have practiced yesterday, book and I walk over with

(54:15):
Blair and she's in here because we hadn't been in
the main arena.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
She comes in before the men's game, before.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
They get out. She gets her shots up. Rory's in early.
All these kids are in airy early to get shots.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
And so.

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Again, Jordan, you have to guard Justice on offense. And
she's very offensive minded. She's great, she has great feet.
She's a big, physical offensive player. If you put a
guard on her, it's just not going to work. And
so even against a four player in our conference at

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this level, those kids are usually pretty athletic, but Justice
is so physical it's just hard.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
To deal with her.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
It is really I think developed and is doing a
great job of being a complimentary player. So our complimentary
player tonight goes for twenty two, you know, and that's
what she'll do. Like you don't pay any attention to
her because we can run some stuff for now when
she's making shots, whether it's an out of bounds player,
on the half court. You know, she's just really, really good.

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So now we really have three players on the perimeter.
They're all frontline players. They're all frontline guards that you
better figure out how you're going to deal with them
because if you whoever you're going to put your third
best defender on, it's not going to be good for you.
So it's I'm happy for her again when you see

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kids put the time in. You know, I've been watching
Rory for five years put her time in. She don't
make that shot against South Carolina the other night because
just because she does it, because she's been in the gym,
she's invested in her craft.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
The game rewards you when you do that.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
So all these kids are being rewarded right now because
they're invested in their craft.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
So there are the thoughts from Vick Schaeffer coming off
the Texas win the last night of A. North Carolina
next up again on Sunday, they'll take on Prairie View
A and M two o'clock at Moody Center. We'll have
it for you beginning of one to forty five here
on the zone. All right, we'll switch to some college
football information coming up next. When we continue on Sports
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone in the iHeartRadio app

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to take a look at some college football notes here.
You're caught up on the coaching carousel because that in
the past twenty four to forty eight hours has changed
a little bit. Certainly one of those changes coming, and
sometimes these things wind up being chain reactions, one coaching

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higher affecting others as well, whether coaches are fired or
whether they leave, which also coordinators at the Power five level.
That's what's happened at the University of California col hiring
Oregon defensive coordinator Tosh Lapoi as the bears next head coach.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
That happened yesterday.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
It looks like James Madison is going to hire Billy Napier,
the former Florida coach. That happened last night. The ward
came through that Napier would replace Bob Chesney, the head
coach at JMU, has agreed to take over at UCLA
after the Duke's host Troy in the Sunbelt Championship game.

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Now it does beg the question, Let's say James Madison,
as expected, wins tonight, and say Duke beats Virginia in
the A SEC championship game tomorrow and James Madison lands
in the College Football Playoff, will Chesney still leave at

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that point? Because North Texas and Tulane played tonight, both
of those head coaches are bound for other places, and
both head coaches have said that they're they're bound to
the schools they're currently at until their.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Postseason run ends.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
So if it, if it happens that North Texas should
win tonight, Eric Morris would stay with them into the playoff,
and I think it would happen. Also, if Tulane wins,
I think we'll we'll see that happen as well. So
you know, though, you know, all the way through the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
But again same Yeah, I'm seeing the same thing at JMU.
Yep with the slave balls reporting.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Okay, all right, see and I saw from another slave
ball story where he said he was going to leave
after the Sun Belt Championship game. But I can't imagine
he would leave if JMU reaches the playoff.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Yeah, U, C l A and JM you reach an
agreement that will allow Chesney to coach the Dukes if
JMU makes the CF.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
See that's the deal. If they make the playoff and
they're rooting. How about this, The Dukes are rooting for Duke.
They want Duke to win, so they have a chance
to get into the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
And if Duke wins and the Dukes are left out,
the Dukes could play in the Duke's Mayle Bowl.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Oh stop it, hey, don't you the messenger?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Okay, all right, yeah, okay, so it could happen. This
was certainly not unexpected at all that Colin Klein is
now going to be the head coach of Kansas State.
He left Texas A and M. Of course, he was
Heisman Trophy finalists in twenty twelve as the quarterback for

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the Wildcats. Board was he a pain in the rear
to Texas and other teams as well? He was an
outstanding college quarterback. He's been in his second season as
Texas A and M's offensive coordinator. But he's going to
be introduced this after noon at a news conference in
Kansas State. He will, however, remain with the Aggies through

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the playoff, so that deal was struck. He'll take over
for Chris Cleman, who announced his retirement on Windsay, you know,
it really was not that long ago, and it kind
of coincided with the Longhorns fall from grace in the
teens to early twenties before Sark arrived on the scene,

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and even inclusive of Sark's first season when Texas went
five and seven, and that was the rise of the
coaches at the two Kansas schools and how they were
viewed as being the next great thing, and a lot
of the powers that had been had been falling off
in Texas was limped into that category. But Chris Clemon

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was one of those guys. He won a Big twelve
Coach of the Year title, and now all of a sudden,
the bloom off the rows there and he steps aside.
So a little strange, but Kansas State is very, very
happy to have Colin Klein back and now as the
new head coach, all right, So that still leaves some

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other vacancies, and the most noteworthy of these is at
Penn State. And there have been several coaches who had
been targets and said, nah, I'm good, thanks, the latest
being Kaline Sataki, the head coach at BYU, So he's
agreed to stay there and they have engaged. Penn State

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has with three other candidates over the past few days.
But now here's a name that hadn't been up in
a while, and now it's back up again. And that's
Iowa State's head coach Matt Campbell who's emerged certainly is
one of the Keefens. Campbell is a three time Big
Twelve Coach of the Year. He had some great seasons there,

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certainly for Iowa State, and he's had two Big Twelve
Championship game appearances. They ever won a conference championship. They
did win a Fiesta Bowl over Oregon in twenty twenty
for their first ever top ten finish. Lately, they've fallen
off a bit and they were eight and four this year.

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He's seventy two and fifty five overall, and now he's
emerging as the top candidate to replace James Franklin as
they head coach.

Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
At Penn State.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
So that will be interesting to see where that goes. Also,
so there's some college football notes the coaching carousel going
on in and by the way, there's the two conference
title games that will be leading it off tonight, and

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that would be in the Sunbelt and in the American
and in the American.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Conference Championship game.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
It's North Texas, ranked twenty fourth in the CFP at
number twenty two Lane North Texas. Since the two have
been in the same conference. North Texas is not beaten
too Lane. They're owing three against them, and the game
is in New Orleans, so it'll be interesting to see
how that comes down. Even though a lot of the
betting line say North Texas is going to win the game.

(01:03:21):
They've got him what favored by what two to two
and a half points? Stuff like that. So yeah, yeah,
keep an eye on me in Green today.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Two and a half points. I'm looking for for over
under here. Oh there it is sixty six and a half.
I believe I could see that. I could see that
might not want to take the under on that. I
want to just say in North Texas number one offensive
unit in.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
The country, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Jake Retzloft, Drew mess to maker.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Yeah, yeah, it could be as as Greg Tepper likes
to say, they're from Dave Campbell's Texas Football Magazine points
he he likes to say it Troy and James Madison tonight.
Jmu Is is a prohibitive favorite to win that game.
So that may well be why some folks might get

(01:04:11):
nervous about that Duke Virginia game because everybody's expecting James
Madison to win tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
That's a twenty three and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, yeah, they're pretty significantly favored on that. All right,
there's a college football notes. We got football of another
sort to get to when we come back here on
Sports Radio AM thirteen under the zone of the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
It's The craig Way Show with the voice of the
Texas Longhorns in Hall of Fame broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Third and final hour of the program here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone, Craig Way alongside the
producer Ja Kerman. Glad to have you with us. Coming
up a few minutes, we'll hear from Jordan Lee, Texas
sophomore guard. She had a career high twenty two in
the Texas women's eight seventy nine to sixty four win
over eleventh thrying North Carolina last night in the acc

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SEC Challenge, so we'll hear from her. We'll also hear
from Brian schottni or the Cowboys head coach them in
the aftermath of their forty four to thirty loss to
the Detroit Lyons last night, which has really pushed the
Cowboys to the brink of elimination. Not eliminated yet still
mathematically alive, but they're gonna have to run the table

(01:05:29):
and get some help to get in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
More on that coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Also, we'll hear from Texas men's head coach Sean Miller
and the program's GM, the lifetime Longhorn Chris Ogden, whose
son bo Ogden signed with Texas on National Signing Day
and also signing in the early signing period for the
Longhorns was Austin Gooseby. So we'll have some of that

(01:05:54):
conversation from last night's edition of Longhorn Weekly.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
So there is that last night.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
The one bad thing that happened for the Detroit Lions
was that Brian Branch tor his achilles. He had been
having some problems and was trying to break up a
pass in the end zone with Alex Hanzeloni against Jake Ferguson, who,
by the way, was called for a penalty on that play.

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Dan Campbell, the Lions head coach, that he was concerned
the injury could be long term, but he'll wait for
the additional test results, he said, I'll know more to
marvel now we know in all probability, Brian Branch is
done for the year. There Lions still very much in
the playoff picture by winning last night to Gate to

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win the game, but other games that are gonna be
important games this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
For example, Jake Colts and Jaggs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Who would have thought that that's a battle for first
place in the AFC South when the season began, Yet
here we are. They're both eight and four playing at
EverBank Stadium on Sunday, and the Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Who were sitting pretty with an eleven fourth quarter lead
in Kansas City, now sit in a spot where they
lose this game, their playoff odds become pretty much a
coin flip.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah, yeah, so they're in need of a win. Bengals
and Bills. At the start of the year, this was
looked at as being a much more attractive matchup than
it is turned out to be, at least by records.
But the Bengals aren't playing better of late. They're four
and eight, but they were really, really down. The Bills
had been struggling and lost three in a row. They
bounced back with a win, and so it's eight and

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four and four and eight for that one, and you know,
the Bengals are still alive in terms of the playoffs,
if they turn it around and run the table and
finish nine and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Eight, and remember they're the second half team, right every
year they started to and oh they lost Joe Burrow
had that failed Jake Browning experiment and had some pretty
inconsistent performances on defense throughout the year. Joe Burrow is
ten and three in the month of December.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
How about that? And to be four and eight here
they are only two games out of first because you
have the six and six Steelers and the six and
six Ravens, who, by the way, are facing each other
in what I like to refer to as the Midland Bowl,
not Midland, Texas Midland.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
You know, they're just kind of middle you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
I stuck a fork in the Ravens a few weeks
ago and was like, after you talked me out of it,
I thought, oh, okay, you're right, they could put it together.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Still, they're going to get healthier. I'm sticking by that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I don't think that this Ravens team has any kind
of a high ceiling, even if they make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
I just don't see it. I startch that what do
you see from the Steelers?

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Nothing either?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Yeah, yeah, I asked Sean Miller on Long Horn Week
last night. He is an avowed Steelers fan. He grew
up in the Pittsburgh area, went to Aliquippa, where Tony
Dorr said and Mike did come among others.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Went in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
It's football country up there. But he was a basketball
star and played for his dad in high school. And
we talked about it his bio last night on the
show and he said, so, I'm died in the wool
in Pittsburgh. I said, so, how you feeling about the Steelers, dag?
He is not very good, not very good. They're six
and six. So whoever wins has a leg up for

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the moment Seahawks played the Falcons. It's it's been kind
of weird to see what has happened to Atlanta being
just foreign eight. Kirk Cousins now has the run of
the team there. Commanders and Vikings probably not good for
your group rank.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Well, Jayden Daniels is going to come back to come back,
so that's a sign. I think what dan Quinn said
after the Broncos loss was good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
We lost, but we're not lost anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
The Broncos game was the best they played about two
months and so that's all you're asking for as a
Commander fan. I don't mind if they play well and
lose right now to get a better draft pick and
replenish some of the talent that they traded away in
that kind of all in push in the off season,
which was ill timed.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Here's something to know. Say what you will about Marcus Marion.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
He's had four straight starts with at least two hundred
passing yards and a passing touchdown. That's the second longest
streak of his career, following a seven game run of
that in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
You might get a chance to start somewhere next year.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I do like their bold prediction on this game ESPN's
Pro Football guys. Here's the bold prediction. Commander's kicker Jake
Moody will miss an extra point. The Moody has been
perfect on extra points, but he has a minus eight
percent field goal percentage over expectation, third worst.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Among kickers with at least ten field goal attempts.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Great, just a great And they're playing on Northwest Field's
shoddy surface, so I would not put it past them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Saints play the Bucks. Saints are two and ten. Bucks
seven and five and just kind of wading through things.
In the NFC South Dolphins, they've perked up of late.
There's still a live mathematically in the playoff picture.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
Believe it or not.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
They're five and seven play the Jets an't get within
a game of five hundred with a win.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yeah. Mike McDaniel has done a nice job with this team.
They have not quit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Their defense has improved over the course of the season,
and even without Tyreek Hill, they've found ways to continue
to move the ball effectively.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Titans play at the Browns one and eleven against three
and nine. No thanks, Broncos ten and two at the
two and ten Raiders.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Yeah, I think the Broncos will handle their business.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
The Raiders are terrible. I did not see that coming.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
The Rams are nine and three, coming off that surprising
loss of Carolina. They play at Arizona, who's three and nine.
The Cardinals are o and eight against teams that entered
their games with a winning record. That's the highest total
of that in the NFL. So so there's that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
The Cardinals are the Auburn of the NFL. They're great
at finding ways to lose.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Yeah. The Fox National Game of the Week Bears, Packers
Bears nine in three, Packers eight three and one's supposed
to be cold and windy. Of course it's Lambeau in December.
And then how about the Sunday Nighter Texans and the Chiefs.
Who would have fought a month ago that the Texans
would have a better record through twelve games in Kansas City.

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Yet they're seven and five, Chiefs are six and six.
It's must win for Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
It is, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Their playoff odds dropped to twelve percent with a loss.
Even if they win, they're gonna have some work to do.
And for Houston, they can jump their odds to eighty
two percent with a win. Who to Thunkett, Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
And then Monday night Eagles had Chargers, both teams eight
and four, both teams trying to get right on that.
All right, that's a look around the NFL. Let's hear
from Texas women's basketball sophomore Jordan Lee. She had a
career eyde twenty two points and really opened things up
with a lot of the double teams and traps being

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put and employed against Madison Booker and Rory Harmon. Theirs
sat or stood Jordan Lee the knockdown three pointers last
night and have twenty two points. Jordan Lee had a
career high twenty two points in this game. To you,
I've heard basketball players quite often talk about letting.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
The game come to them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
I look at your game and how it's going, it
looks like you truly are letting it come to I'm grateful.

Speaker 11 (01:13:14):
I think you're able to do that when you have
really good teammates and you know a lot of the
attention is going to be on them, and it's going
on on myself to make it easier for them to
be open and make sure its by stretching the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I'm glad you brought that up, because when Maddie gets
a lot of attention focused on her in terms of
the double teams and teams guarding the same thing with
Rory and having a dribble a from traps, quite often
you find yourself open, whether it's for a three or
driving in. Is that something that registered in your mind
going into the game. Hey, I have to be ready
for that because those opportunities may be.

Speaker 11 (01:13:44):
There, absolutely, and we have great chemistry as well, and
so kind of annoying our spots on the floor and
whether they're looking for me and where they turn and
where they make their move. Make sure I'm available at
the right time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
I know coaches like to talk about defense. You guys
really hit the defense today. Do you get a lot
of fun out of that?

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
We did.

Speaker 11 (01:13:59):
We didn't start as well as we wanted to, but
we definitely picked it up and took advantage of some
matchups and we needed to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Hey, congrats on a Did you know what was career
d I did?

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Thank you all.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Next action for the Texas Women comes on Sunday afternoon.
They'll play Prairie View A and M and we'll have
it for you on the Zone one forty five as
the pregame star time and the tip off is at
two o'clock. Ty Dillard, the former long run Ty Dillard Mutan,
will be the coach of Prairie View as they come
into Moody Center. It's our first experience as a collegiate
head coach, all right, coming up back to the NFL,

(01:14:33):
we hear from Brian Shott and I are the Cowboys
head coach. When we continue on this Friday afternoon on
Sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone in the iHeartRadio
app oh to be a Cowboys fan these days, right, Hey,
I We'll tell you one thing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Thanks last night.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
In the second half of the women's game, and then
certainly in our post game coverage. Of course, it's Athey
Harston joining me for the game broadcast and when and
the way the math works on this or the logistics.
When the game ends, I go down to the floor
and do the postgame interviews live on the floor. Now,

(01:15:14):
you said, well, how's that different from the past. What's
different from the past is we were broadcasting from the
floor in the past and Moody Center, but with the
new seating configuration for fans and buying some of I
heard somebody refer to them yesterday as the Hollywood seats,
the ones right there on the floor. Our broadcast position

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now is at the top of the lower level, right
by the Dell Club and it's not a bad advantage point,
and we get all the TV effects feed and TV
monitor and stuff like that. So we've adjusted to it nicely.
But what it does do is it throws an adjustment
in for the post game. So what I do is
our engineer producer on site, Cameron Parker, hands me a

(01:15:58):
wireless mike and I've a headset with a headset radio,
and I go down to the floor. I actually walk
down the floor with about a minute and a half
remaining while the game's going on, and just call the
last minute half of the game in transit walking down
the steps and then sitting courtside or near the end.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
And if I didn't know you were doing that, because
I'm working behind the scenes sometimes in the studio, I
would never be able to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Well, the people around me can tell. When I go
and I sit down, I get a lot of strings
like go, what is he doing and why is he
doing that? Like that. The reason being is it makes
it a lot easier to get to the floor because fans,

(01:16:42):
those who are not staying after games, you know, or
right afterwards they start up, and so you're the salmon
swimming upstream at that point if you wait too long.
So I started to make my way down with two
minutes or a minute a half to go in the game,
that kind of thing. And there's usually an empty seat
either on the floor or right near it. And then
I parking there for the last minute of the game

(01:17:04):
whatever and call the game, and then the game ends,
and then I head out to the floor. We have
a commercial break and then would come back and then
I do the interviews on the floor, which were Jordan
Lee and then associated coach Elena Lovado last night in
Elena was first and then Jordan. So anyway, but when

(01:17:26):
I got back upstairs afterwards, back to the broadcast position
to do the stats segment with Kathy and wrap it up,
I did notice that on his laptop, Cameron Parker was
watching The Cowboys and the Lions. You know, he has
avowed he's vowed not to watch him at least not

(01:17:48):
to sit down and watch them all the way through.
But he had it on. He had it on caught
red hand. Yeah, he had it on. He was watching
it on the laptop.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
I was gonna say, if the Cowboys won last night,
there was gonna be an investigation launched by the person
sitting across from you about a producer curse, because once
Cameron transferred the titles over to me, everything went south
of the Commanders. But we'll delay that investigation a little
bit after the Cowboys lost. All right, So he is

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so he is watching.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Yeah, well at least in bits and pieces, okay, And
he was watching last night. I had a feeling and
he saw it get away from the Cowboys an opportunity.
I mean, Detroit was led throughout, but the Cowboys got
closed couple of.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Times, and then and then the Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Every time the Cowboys would draw close, like when they
pulled within three and then when they pulled within seven,
the Lions would keep him at arm's length. Brian Schottenheimer
ASTs after the game for his thoughts on this.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
We just keep playing.

Speaker 12 (01:18:47):
You know, we don't control who wins and loses. We
just control what we can do. I'm really proud of
the group. I told him that, you know, four games
seventeen days, battled their asses off. Proud of them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
We knew tonight it was gonna come down a couple
of things.

Speaker 12 (01:19:02):
We knew we had to take care of the football
and take it away, and we didn't do a very
good job with that. And then we knew we had
to win the trenches, and we didn't really do that.
So I thought they played hard, gave up too many explosives,
and then of course, you know, just couldn't when we'd
get a little momentum, we just couldn't get a stop.
And so the compounding football wasn't what it's been over
the last couple of weeks and when you play a

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good football team like this on the road, unfortunately, when
you do that, it's gonna be hard to win.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
They asked him about George Pickens and about it didn't
look like he had the same vibe to save energy.
And by the way, those of us who have George
Pickens on the fantasy team would hardily agree with that
that he just he didn't seem engage even after Ceedee
Lamb was injured in the game or went out with
that concussion and concussion protocol.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
There were lots of routes that he didn't really finish
in the game.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
It was very odd.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Yeah, And meanwhile, Flinoy was kind of the receiving star
for them, at least in terms of the wide outs.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
So his asked was something up with Pickens.

Speaker 12 (01:19:59):
No, I don't think so. I want to look at it.
I mean, he was being doubled, you know, a minute
CD went out, they just decided to play everything two
man over there and try to double him and take
him away. But I don't think so. Really proud of
Florida and him stepping up. I thought CD before the
injury was outstanding. You know, we knew we'd hit some
explosives and unfortunately we just you know, we weren't very

(01:20:20):
good in the red zone, kick too many field goals,
and against a team like this, you can't kick field goals.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Yeah, and for those of us who had to play
the guy who had the Cowboys kicker, that wasn't good either.
They also weren't good in kick coverage in terms of
kickoff returns and they had problems in that. And field
position seemed to always be tilted slanted the field. So
how much of that was an issue in the game.

Speaker 12 (01:20:42):
Yeah, for sure, the field position felt like it was
I don't know the numbers off the top of my head,
but they seemed to be starting around the forty.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:20:49):
We certainly didn't cover very well, and I thought that
that kind of flipped the field. We gave them a
bunch of short fields and we have to look at
why that was, and we'll do that. Certainly an area
for us to clean up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Now, the Cowboys finally get a bit of a break
in terms of the schedule because they had gone the
short week into Thursday and then another Thursday. You heard
Shottneimers say four games in seventeen days, so they get
a little bit of a break there all the way

(01:21:23):
until Monday the seventeenth when they go to Vegas to
take on the Raiders. So he was asked, because you
get that longer break, how important is that? And are
there issues to clean up again? We keep playing. I
mean we're ready. We'll play anybody anywhere.

Speaker 12 (01:21:38):
It doesn't change because you lose the Detroit Lions when
you don't play very good. We did not play very
good tonight and that's why we lost. I'd love to
play them again tomorrow as they let us. They're not
gonna let us do that. So we do have a
little bit of time. Like somebody asked me the other day,
we can dive into a little bit of self scout stuff,
you know, over these next couple of days and clean
some things up. But the biggest thing we got to

(01:22:00):
clean up as the turnovers on offense. You know, we're
loose with the ball, you know, and it's got.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
To be better. Uh. One thing that did look a
little better, at least at the start was the pass rush,
but then Detroit adjusted. How were they able to do that?

Speaker 12 (01:22:15):
Yeah, again, I agree with you. I thought early on,
you know, we ended up holding them in the first drive.
But I thought we got great hits on him. And
the one thing Jared does a really good job of.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
He watched him.

Speaker 12 (01:22:23):
He'll throw the ball away at the feet of the
guys and not get sacks.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
But we were rushing him really well.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
I thought they made some good adjustments.

Speaker 12 (01:22:29):
They started chipping us a lot, kind of you know,
trying to slow down our games. And you know, they
got the ball in the perimeter quite a bit on
his tim which kind of hurt us, you know, a
little dump passes out there to Jamior Gibbs and James
and Williams and those guys. I thought Jared made some
great throws all night. A few times we had tight
coverage and he put the ball in the one spot
we couldn't make the play.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
All right. So are there common threads commonalities that Schottenheimer
has observed throughout the course of it. When your team
is six six and one, Like I said, the up
and down nature with the fans because they have to
live through a team that is at level five hundred.

(01:23:10):
Uh you know, So that means you have some good games,
good moments, and poor games and poor moments as well.
So with regard to the losses and with regard to
the poor games, Uh, is there a common thread that
Schottenheimer sees running through these defeats.

Speaker 12 (01:23:27):
I understand why you asked the question, and we certainly
need to win games. I told you guys that, like,
you have to learn how to win on the road
against good teams to go where we want to go,
and we haven't played very well on the road at times,
and so I think it's more of us focusing on
the little things. It's not the travel, it's not that stuff.
I mean, we'll take a look at everything, though, you know,

(01:23:48):
we'll take a look at walkthroughs when we're doing walkthroughs,
when we're doing meetings, all those things. But the end
of the day, the execution today, you know, just sloppy.
And that's why we sit here tonight with a loss.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, it's interesting to hear him say that about taking
a look at how they schedule things like walkthroughs and
how they travel. He didn't believe it was that kind
of stuff because they probably haven't done things much differently
in terms not only of how the Cowboys travel and
practice and work out, but pretty much the standard routine

(01:24:20):
across the NFL. If you hear coaches and operations people
and general managers talk in the NFL quite often. The
schedules are almost identical in terms of when the players
have days off, when they have the load in practice,
when they're just doing walk through things, when they're doing meetings,

(01:24:43):
when they leave on a departure day, the day before
a game, what the game day routine is about. Almost
everybody across the board is doing things identical or close
to the same type of routines because over time they've
proven the world best. But you heard shot Haimer say,
they'll look at everything while they have a little bit

(01:25:03):
of time. Third quarter interception, the dack through and it
set up the Lions to get a twenty seven to
nine lead.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
How important was that? Wasn't a turning point in this game?

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
Guy jumped it, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:25:14):
I mean again, we've been you guys been putting everything
out there about slants all week, and uh so he
jumped on and we.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Actually hit it. We hit a coup. I did say that, well,
we did.

Speaker 12 (01:25:22):
We hit a couple two, But man, I wish I
would have had slug on there. But I was trying
to get, you know, off to a positive start. You know,
we lost first down. You know, tonight, I really felt
that we've put ourselves in long yard and situations. We
lost first down, and I think on both sides of
the ball. So when you're calling the game, if you're
Dan and you're second and three, four, whatever, you feel great.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
And when you're on the.

Speaker 12 (01:25:44):
Other side of your second and nine, second and ten,
it's it's a little bit more difficult and the play
sheet seems to shrink.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
I almost almost heard Schottenheimer put it on the media
for why the interception happened there on that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Well, remember the exchange he had on Sunday George Pickens
having a lot of success with slants? Do you expect
the Lions to plan for that? Do you plan for
the Lions planning for it? And he said, we're going
to run slants.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Yeah, he said it, and that's why, and he owned
he owned that afterwards, but he did say, you guys
had been talking about it and writing about it and
all that. Yeah, so yeah, but I'm sure the Lions
were planning for it anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Sing it did.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Almost kind of remind me that old Saturday Night Live
skit that was happening during the Persian Gulf War. And
you had, like the spokesman for the military, for General
Schwartz coffee. It was the spokesman standing up talking about
how they've launched the attack, blah blah blah, and he said, now,
please understand it was Kevin Neeland doing it. Please understand
that I can't we can't give away specific things with

(01:26:46):
regardless security and what our plans are.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Yes, you, and they start over with, can.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
You tell us how many troops you have on the
ground and when you plan to attack? Yeah, that would
go into an area that we can't really get into there,
and that somebody else. What would you say, is your
most vulnerable point a vulnerable point? And how might the
Iraqis exploit that? So it kind of reminded me of that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Hey, Darth Vader, where would you say the Death Star
could go wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Yeah? How about the portal there, the exhaust thermal exhaust port?

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
You know, was that a problem?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
One more from Schottenheimer where he was asked, that's that
old thing about you know, one loss beating you twice
and preventing that from happening, and how he and the
staff have to make sure that this loss doesn't deflate
what's been a really good run for this team, a

(01:27:40):
special group of guys.

Speaker 12 (01:27:42):
They're not going to let that happen. And it's a
special group of guys. They're disappointed. They're disappointing because we
let a opportunity to win a game on the road
against a good team get away from us.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
But we'll pick ourselves up, we'll go back.

Speaker 12 (01:27:54):
To work, and we're guaranteed another championship opportunity next week
against Messo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Yeah, so they have that Vikings game and then the
Lions that I mean, they are Raiders that we were
talking about in Las Vegas, But I don't know that
I necessarily refer to as a championship opportunity for either
of those teams, by.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
The way, No, no it's not. But for the Cowboys
it is a win or go home. Yeah, in that sense.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Yeah, it is a must win situation. Now, their last
four games are they got to finish ten six and
one to have any shot. They're not going to get
in at nine to seven and one. They have to win,
and then even then they're anything but guaranteed to be in.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
They're gonna have to have some help. But without ten
six and one, they got no shot at all. So
they have to win.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
So yeah, so that'll be the case for them as
they get ready for their next opportunity, which comes up
against the Minnesota Vikings. And and that's after the Vikings

(01:29:02):
play your team play the Washington Commanders this week, so
we'll see on that coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
So we'll see, well, first of all, we have to
see how the Commanders do. Have you gotten to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Watch a lot of Vikings football this year, Craig, That's
the team I was probably most wrong on when we
talked earlier in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
I still had faith in them, and it has been.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
A bit of a it's gone off the rails for Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
Yeah, yeah, it kind of has. It's kind of gone
off the rails.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
It's I mean, I guess you're you've called women's basketball
the last few Sundays, so it's you probably don't get
to watch every team, but it's been it's been a
rough go for the Vikings. A quarterback, and they're they're
gonna bring McCarthy back into the fold this week. It
is a very realistic possibility that they pivot from him,
I think in the off season.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Yeah, which is shocking.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Yeah, yeah, it is consider what they've had invested in
him by the way that that Cowboys game is a
Sunday night game.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
Home game against the Vikings there on December fourteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
They should flex that one Outen said.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
That, Yeah, look what else could be flexed into that slot? Uh?
Not the Bears and Browns and Ravens Bengals. With the
Bengals win.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
That was just a primetime game though Bhill's Patriots. But
that was already in primetime earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
In the season. Chargers, Chiefs cold Seahawks isn't bad.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Ye, Packers Broncos actually a good slate. Yeah, plenty of
flex opportunities there.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
No, we need to see Vikings Cowboys. The Cowboys should
should win that one going away. If JJ McCarthy is
not able to look very different than what we see
in fancy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
And let's be honest, I mentioned it yesterday, Cowboys Chiefs
some Thanksgiving highest rated regular season game in NFL history.
Now a lot of that had to do with the
Chiefs also, not just the Cowboys, but I'm sure the
networks paid because they know the Cowboys always rate well
no matter what the record is.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
At the time.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
Monday Night is the Dolphins and the Steelers. Yeah, these
are swings and missus.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Yeah, there are all right, Uh coming up, we'll turn
our attention to some long worn basketball here from Sean
Miller and from the GM Chris Hognen about his son
bo a now future Longhorn with his name on the
dotted line here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the
zone of the iHeartRadio app Lorida.

Speaker 9 (01:31:31):
Guess I'm the family tradition?

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Get me want to know?

Speaker 6 (01:31:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Before Hank Williams Junior became famous for are you ready
for some football? With a Monday Night think, he was,
of course the son of the iconic Hank Williams Senior,
who is a great singer and dieded eight twenty nine tragically,
Hank Jor this song was about following the family tradition.

(01:32:10):
But I always have fond memories of Hank Junior because
in my concert vending days when I was in college
and I was selling T shirts and other merch either
working for the band or for the arena or for
a company that contracted to arenas was more the point
I got a chance to work. And it was about

(01:32:32):
this time of year, maybe one week later. We were
about a week from Christmas, and it was a Sunday
night show at the Lloyd Noble Center, Norman, Oklahoma. By
the way, these days, when I go into Lloyd Noble,
and it's been like this for several years, when I
go in to do a men's or women's basketball game
and I walk around, I don't think of it as
a basketball facility. I think of it as a place
where I work. Journey and the Police and Foreigner and

(01:32:56):
Hank Williams Junior, who went in and did a Sunday
night show, and thinking that duo of I think it's
David Frazelle and Shelley West. They had that one hit song,
You're the Reason God made Oklahoma, and which I always
thought was kind of an accusatory statement if you asked me,
you know. But anyway, but anyway, so I go in

(01:33:20):
and worked that show, and I brought along one of
my roommates and he needed a little bit extra cash
on I would pick up one hundred and fifty two
hundred bucks or something for our efforts working in it.
And that night we could not keep the merchandise stocked.
People kept buying it, and they were the nicest people
that were coming up, these country music fan We could
have just set like a tip jar out and said

(01:33:42):
put your money in there and they would have done it.
We went home. I always remember this. Went home that
night I had five hundred and eighty seven dollars in
my pocket and I was like.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Wow, Christmas all tips?

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
No, no, no, no, that's not tips. Just say that
was my commission. Yep, my stake. I was expecting one
hundred and fifty hundred and seventy five bucks for working
like eight nine hours whatever it was. And by the
time you get in, load the equipment in, you worked
the show, you clean up your area, turn in all
your merchandise.

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
It was all consignment, you know, that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
So I thought, yeah, one hundred and fifty hundred and seventy five bucks,
that'll be okay, And no, no, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:34:20):
It was close to six hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
Gee, when's he coming back?

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
I was like, thank you, hey, appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
All right. Long Worn Men's basketball, you know, coming off
the loss to Virginia, that obviously did not sit well
with the head coach, Shawn Miller or his staff. But
they go back to work and they get ready to
take on Southern on Monday night. In the meantime, last
night on Long Worn Weekly with Shawn Miller, our debut
program with the Longhorn's new head coach. We had a

(01:34:48):
couple of guests on the program, and one of those
was Chris Ogden, who of course played at Texas when
Rick Barnes was the coach, and Oggie and I have
known each other a long, long time, going back to
nineteen ninety eight. In fact, Chris Ogden, it was an
intern at this radio station for me really. Yeah, in
the final four season of two o three, his senior year.
That's neat he interned. Yeah, it was fun, and we

(01:35:10):
talked a little bit about that last night. But also
we talked about the fact that the long Orange Scourse
signed to outstanding players, one of those Austin Gooseby and
the other his own son, bo Ogden. But it wasn't
the slam dunk you think it was, just because Oggie
had played at Texas and was on the staff that
he was going to. Ogden was recruited by a lot

(01:35:30):
of the top programs in the country and ended up
having it come down to Texas and Tennessee before he
selected Texas. But here's the conversation I had last night,
a long worn weekly with the head coach Sean Miller
and Wither special guest Chris Ogden. First of all, I
want to get your thoughts on this because, like you said,
you've been involved with different different groups. How about working

(01:35:52):
with Coach Miller as a coach and what the role
and the synergy the two of you have in your
role with the program.

Speaker 10 (01:36:01):
Yeah, Coach has been awesome. It's been great getting to
know him and his family. I'm very appreciative of him
allowing me to to stay on and be a part
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
You know, as a.

Speaker 10 (01:36:10):
New coach you have no obligation to do that, and
so very appreciative of that. Like he, like he hit
on earlier, we didn't have a relationship. We see each other,
we say hi, we we're in gyms together. But but uh,
but we didn't have a relationship. But but we've we've
we've connected pretty fast here and it's been great. He's

(01:36:30):
a he's an exceptional teacher on the floor. I mean,
if you could come watch a practice, you would you
would really you would really be in awe of of
just the way he teaches every asset, every facet of
the game, offense, defense, special situations, details, player individual things
like that. It's his basketball intellect i Q and the
ability to deliver it is is the best I've been around.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Yeah. I I told people from the first practice I
went into, it was a lot of a lot of
fun watching you and your staff teach the game. How
how much does that mean to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
You as a teacher as well as the head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Yeah, it goes back to my dad.

Speaker 8 (01:37:06):
You know. I think that you know the emotions of it,
you know, effort, being able to fight through adversity, and
you know, making mental mistakes in the discipline part like
there's there's there is another side of being able to
to sometimes be the hammer and making sure that we
have great effort in togetherness. But I think the fun

(01:37:27):
part and really where players benefit and teams benefit the
most is just what we're supposed to do, that we
can execute, that we can do it, and learning the
why this is. This is not only how we do it.
But let me just make sure you're clear on this
is what we're accomplishing, this is why we're doing that.
And you know, last night's game is a great reflection

(01:37:48):
of what you just brought up. And uh, we talk
about a teachable moment or being able to capitalize and
be better having gone through something and failed. There's a
lot of lessons, especially on the defensive end, that we
have to learn, correct and then improve and then know
that moving forward we're at a higher level in a
few areas that we weren't at last night against Virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
The Long Worn program as two new sinees coming Austin
Gooseby from Melissa and your son Belogden, and I was
interested in getting your thoughts as the dad looking at
it from that side of it, as your son was
being recruited by a lot of schools in the process
he went through.

Speaker 10 (01:38:35):
Yeah, as a dad, the first thing you wanted to
be is his decision.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Think back to my decision.

Speaker 10 (01:38:41):
My parents allowed me to make it and go through
my process, and so that's the first thing you want
is for your son to be able to process things
and make his own decision. And then after that, I mean,
I think he picked the right place, not just because
his Texas, not just because I went here and all
those things. I think he picked the right place because
of coach, his staff and and and the way they

(01:39:01):
teach the game and what's best for him. So so
certainly proud and in that regard and Uh, it's been fun.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
It was nerve wracking, it was. It was a really
hard process for me.

Speaker 10 (01:39:11):
I mean it really was because because you because of that,
you wanted to be his decision. But now I'm sitting
over here on this side. And then you got you know,
mom in between, and and uh and and and he
we got him an agent, so that way those type
things could we you know, we took the family. But
there was a lot of really quiet dinners at our
house and uh, it was it was a tough time.

(01:39:34):
But but it all worked out great and it couldn't
be more.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
I was gonna ask you, how did Katie handle all
of this?

Speaker 10 (01:39:38):
Well, you don't. You never want to negotiate against your wife.
I think we all know that. And uh so, but
she was great again. She wanted what's best for bo.
She wanted to be both's decision. She's mom at the
end of the day, so she's always gonna you know,
protect that and and uh but she's she couldn't be
more excited.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
So uh the Loghorns happily have bo Ogden in the fold,
and Chris Ogden for that matter, and Katie Ogden's bomb
as well. Next action for Texas again is Monday night,
seven o'clock against Southern University. We'll have it for you
in a six thirty year time seven o'clock tip here

(01:40:18):
on the Zone and on ninety eight point one FM Cave,
and then it's off to Hartford, Connecticut to take on
the fifth rank Yukon Huskies. One week from today, we'll
be back to wrap up today's edition of the program
right here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone
and the iHeartRadio app.

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