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July 29, 2024 • 17 mins
Hear more audio from Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy as they discuss the latest updates on the contract situations with Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb, why these negotiations are different that ones in the past, the RB room, and if Dallas is using last seasons loss to Green Bay as motivation heading into 2024.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And we're back to the Craigway Show.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
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talkbacks feature on the Ihearts radio app.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
We just had a couple of people access us via
the talkback each. First of all, one guy, when I
ask the simple question, if you want to win a
copy of Dave Campbell's Texas Football magazine, just let us
know what you like most about the magazine, what you
anticipate the most reading about it.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And he had his ready response.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
What I like most about the magazine is the high
school ranking quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Very simply put the high school ranking of quarterbacks there,
so they're in there. They're in there for sure, and
there's the recruiting section in there as well. So that
gentleman will get a copy of the magazine. Was as
easy as that. This as easy as that. All you
have to do is send us a message on the
talkback feature. They're off the iHeartRadio app and you want

(01:05):
a copy. This guy just wanted to send us a
message on the talk back feature, which is perfectly fine.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Craig.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
Let's hear your French interpretation of the Leon Marshawn victory.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
In the four hundred meter swim more Magni feak. So
there you go. So if you want to just leave
us a goofy message, certainly on the talk back feature,
you could certainly do that as well. We're never above

(01:41):
that as well, and we're not above giving you some
audio from Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. First of all, Jerry,
we heard a little bit of him earlier today and
talking about, you know, the him being the only guy
in the NFL who's both owner and GM and his
explanation for that. What folks are also seeking to get

(02:05):
from the Cowboys owner is an explanation on why he
hasn't gotten a deal done with Dak Prescott and with
Ceedee Lamb. Lamb of course remains a holdout out of
camp like a Parsons deal. As a specter that's looming
in the background as well. And when folks look around
and they see new contracts done for you know, Patrick

(02:30):
Mahomes and Jordan Love and to a tongue of Aloa
and Jared Goff, they want to know why can't it
get done. In fact, Jerry was asked what is unique
about these particular negotiations for Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb
as opposed to other contracts that he's done in the past.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
I just think it's very unique that you have a
top quarterback on your team as well as two players
either side of the ball offense and defensive player that
feel like they're and rightfully so, you know, the best
nine quarterback football players in the league. So you add
that up and certainly it you know, stresses the cap,

(03:14):
if you will. But we think we can get them
both done. We think we can get Dag done. We
think we can get all these things done. But it
does require you to make some tough decisions in other
places to draft and develop and play your draft picks.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's why, like you said, it wasn't easy.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
You know, a guy we drafted, beyond it, a Tony
Pollard we drafted, and you know think the world of
both of them. I have to let a Hall of
Famer like Tyrone Smith walk out the door. Those are
tough decisions, but those are decisions you have to make
if you want to keep your up and coming young players.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
And I think, you know, we're fortunate that we have.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
This issue, Steve, and I think as you were making
that statement, those three players, you man could be seventy
percent of all the money. You got seventy percent of
your pay roll. Now you need a little money for
the other fifty one. That's challenge, especially a challenge when
you've used some of the very money that you're working with.

(04:15):
You've used it for years past, so you've probably got
some of their that's not singing the blues, and it
wasn't unanticipate. What is a pleasure is that you are
dealing with that quality in that situation. How to keep
the top quarterback and how to keep on either side
of the ball, as he just mentioned. Add it up

(04:36):
and you'll see about anywhere from seventy to eighty percent
of your whole payroll there now, how to figure that
and keep the kind of supporting cast that Dak has
had in his career. How to keep that supporting cast
so that Dak can maintain and improve on where he is.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And be spending on.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Those three players seventy five percent of your money, that's
a challenge. How do you keep a supporting cast like
the one we're talking about out here right now plus
on three players spend seventy five percent and plus have
spent a little bit of that on your credit.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Card for years past. That's not singing the blue.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I'm privileged to get to sit here and make try
to make it more cout. But it's real. It's real,
and you look around the league and everybody does it.
If somebody on any one of those players happened to
not have to be paying a quarterback, or happen not
to have two players on each side of the ball

(05:44):
that they're paying, they've got more money to spend for
that play. Are there other clubs that don't have what
we're just outlining? You bet there are, and so they
have got more of their cap that they might allocate
for any one of those plays. And there's thirty one
other clubs. That's what happens.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Jery, you mentioned that you wanted to see leaves fall
with Justin Jefferson's deal getting done.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
What other leaves are you waiting to see Faull for
CD to get done.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Well, let me see what today brings and I'll talk
to you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
No, See, I'm trying.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
I'm trying to be excut specifically specifically, we are so
involved in trying to see where we are with our
situations that that is a major part of seeing where
seeing the leaves fall, see the time go by, seeing

(06:46):
this day and this week, how they go by, and
by the way.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Fault. I have.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
In my life played off quarterback so many times and
wait until the last leaf on the tree.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
And I, if you want.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
To pitch an option, pure option quarterback, going out to
the sideline, I have run that ball and kept it
and not hand it off to the back, not pitch
it back, not throw it. And I have run that
thing all the way out to the sideline before I
made the decision because I couldn't make I couldn't get
whatever it took to it wasn't right for me to

(07:31):
make the decision. And so what our fans, what you're seeing,
what we deal with is we're buying time, we're option quarterback,
and then we're going on out towards the sideline, and
we haven't handed it off, have pitched it. We're trying
to make our mind up what to do. So it
sounds like my homes did a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Okay, do it really do? So?

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Having said that, I'm just trying to give you a
description here. That's what we're doing, and we're waiting for
something to appen in the morning.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Don't you love when Jerry does football talk.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
When he does that, when he compares himself to the
greatest quarterback in the league.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I go homes and go out to the sideline.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I wait and pitch that ball at the last minute
when I get to the sideline. There is a lot
of truth in what he says with regard of waiting
for the leaves to fall and seeing how things are
before he comes to decision. However, there's a lot of
folks who are ready to take him the task, including
Jim Klishaw on his column that that number, that figure,

(08:40):
that percentile, that's seventy percent, that.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Is was it? What was it? President Bush? George W. Bush?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
George W used to say, aggie math whatever you know,
that kind of thing, uh or fuzzy math whatever I mean.
There's a lot of who say that that number is
not a realistic number, that you can indeed what the
market will bear pay Dak Prescott that representative money, pay

(09:16):
ceedee Lamb that representative money and still have you know
more than seventy percent or less than seventy percent allocated
to those particular salaries.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
That it can be done.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Now, it is true that the vikings are able to
sign Justin Jefferson to that very lucrative offer because they're
not paying a quarterback that kind of money right now.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Kirk Cousins is gone, and you know.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's JJ McCarthy coming in, and you know they don't
they're not obligated to that amount of money yet. But
there's other teams that are. They're finding a way to
make this work. Bob's term to the math. The cap
right now for the NFL two hundred and fifty five
million dollars, So seventy percent of that is one hundred

(10:03):
and seventy eight million dollars. If you gave Dak sixty
million dollars, you gave mikeah Parsons thirty five, you gave
ced thirty million dollars, that's one hundred and twenty five million. Now,
I'm the greatest at math, Craig, but one hundred and
twenty five million.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
That's not seventy percent of the cap. And the cap
is going to go up every single year by the way,
It's went up twelve million dollars this past season. It's
going to go up another twelve most likely this next season.
So no, Jerry, it's not seventy percent.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
How much. Did you say the cap is two fifty
five total?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, seventy percent of that one hundred seventy eight million dollars.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Okay, if you committed the count of money that Bob's
term of the.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Ticket was obviously discussing what you just laid out.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
What sixty sixty for Dak, sixty for Docks which was
making the highest paid quarterback in the league, thirty five
for Micah Parsons was making the highest paid non quarterback
in the league. And then CD lamb at thirty million dollars, okay,
twenty five million dollars.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Okay, that's forty nine percent of your cap. Okay, not
seventy it's forty nine. Now it's still a lot. It
is a lot, but it's not seventy. So yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
That's and again it's gonna go up every single year
the cap is the numbers won't So you can pay
those guys and not give up three quarters of your
cap to three players.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Jared, Yeah, exactly. I'm not trying to be tried. Yeah,
being a little trip.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
When I said, let's hear from Mike McCarthy. Here's here's
a first of all, talking about how do you narrow
down the running back room. When you don't have one
specific guy as the guy, but you got several different
guys or candids, how do you narrow it down?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yes, definitely, I mean when you look at the whole
running back group, I think a number one you have
to look at Zeke.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
You know, Zeke's played a lot of football.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I mean, we all to see look at all of
our players, particularly once they get up they're around the
thirty years old and and and the number of reps
they have in the league. So we'll definitely be smart
with him as far as his reps and practice so
well with that. And on the other side of that
is younger players get more opportunities and specific to your
question about Hunter now, you know, if you look at

(12:08):
the direction of the offense last year, you know we
we weren't just primarily a one back team, you know,
whether it's.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Three receivers on a field or two.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
So we do want to expand you know, some two
back concepts and things like that. But on the flip
side of it too, you know, Hunter has shown the
ability to be a contributor in the one back offense.
So just having that flexibility and is important as far
as how we want to challenge our opponents, but also
I think it's important to you know, you always want
to create opportunities for you know, particularly with the running backs,

(12:39):
to give them flexibility, diversity, because that's what really when
you get down to it is, you know, the more
that they can do not only in one back or
two backs, but also special teams is always a huge
factor when you get down to you know, the end
of these tough, tough roster decisions.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
All right now with regard to Dak, you know, the
whatever happens, I mean, Dak's gonna be playing quarterback this
year regardless of what happens going forward with the contract.
But he's asked about his kinship with Dak and what
he can do to take another step forward for the
team this season.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well, I mean I'll start with the kinship and that
business has nothing to do with it. I can tell
you that I have really made, you know, the effort
that that I feel like you need to make is
you know, as the play caller and the involvement in
the offense, to be in every meeting with him in
the spring, and then you know, keeping that pace here
in the in the training camp.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
So so I love.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
The connection that we have, you know, both on the
field and off the field. But Dak is he's he's
definitely an individual that you have to worry about too
much and not enough. And I and I think all
the great quarterbacks I've been blessed to be around, you know,
they go back to square one and they start back
through their their process and at the end of the day,

(13:56):
it's more about their time, you know, with the younger
players and the new plays and building that, building.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That with the the perimeter guys.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
And he's you know, the workout that he had up
you know, Brandon and the whole crew going up there
to Oregon was you know, it's just to hear the
details of it was. You know, I don't know if
I've ever heard of one that the amount of work
that they got done and inequality work that was done
up there too. So so he does all the little
things at the point of making So yeah, I have
no concerns about the way he approaches us.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
And finally, with regard to how they can get beyond
that divisional round stumbling block, how much focus is still
on what happened in the Green Bay game and getting
on forward.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Well, I think it's like anything.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I mean, when you go through you know, the loss
at the end of the year, and there's only one
team that doesn't have that feeling, you know, in the
in the playoff tournament. Uh there's always a tremendous level
of disappointment. And then obviously ours was higher in the
area of frustration because of the way we played. But
you know, that's frankly, is what the off seasons for.

(15:03):
And you know, it takes a while, and I think
I can clearly state that losing that game, for me personally,
was was not easy. So uh so I get it,
I get the fans frustration, but we're past that. That
that that was part of our cutups. I mean, our
guys have seen that game over and over and over

(15:24):
again as far as the ways, you know, the situation
breakdowns that we have, and I'm sure they'll they'll see
it through, you know, certain points of training camp because
at the end of the day, every time you line up,
you know, win or win or lose. It's it's a
learning experience in this in this league, and it's it
is the most competitive league, and I know from from

(15:46):
my experience. I mean, you just look at the we
just talked about the two minutes real. Seventy percent of
the regular season games come down to a two minutes real,
you know, ninety six percent. So that's really what we're
preparing for, and that's what this time of year is about.
So uh, you know, and those are obviously fair questions
and you have to ask them, but we're we're past that,

(16:08):
you know. That's that's not what we're talking about. That's
that's really not where our energy is. The Only time
I really talked about it is when I when is
when I have to. And I've spent time in Green Bay,
Wisconsin recently too, so and didn't you try not? You know,
so I get it, I get it, But that's not
you know, that's not where my mind's at and and
that's not where my energy is because I'd be totally

(16:31):
complete hypocrite to what needs to be done as far
as utilization of energy, as far as what we're going
to do this year. You know, it's all about the
opportunity this year, and that's that's all matters. And I
think anytime we spend conversation energy away from that, we're
we're not taking advantage of this opportunity.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
All right there.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
It is from Mike mccarth the Cowboys head coach. We
got some other football notes. Interesting note coming up with
about the Super Bowl. When we continue on Sports Radio
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