October 15, 2024 • 11 mins
Dallas Cowboys owner/GM Jerry Jones got hot with 105.3 The Fan radio hosts on Tuesday. Hear Jones threaten Shan & RJ on their radio show as the Cowboys have fallen to 3-3.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Again to set the scene for you on this deal. Uh,
Jerry Uh does a couple of things and it really
aggravates some media people. I've noticed whenever he speaks after
every Cowboy game win or lose, and he does he does,
it aggravates some folks in the media.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Soide don't understand it. No, no owner does this, no
other owner.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But he's also the general manager, so he's also speaking
from the GM spot. That never really bothered me that much.
Jerry is Jerry. Jerry's gonna Jerry. He's just gonna be
himself and do that.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But this was what he had to say on Sunday. First,
we give you this.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
When a reporter is asking him if he has gone
through his mind hypothetically, because Jerry likes say hypothetically fundamentally,
he likes to use those terms a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What was the term he used, A training camp? They
said over and over on that is state of the team.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That draws new Yeah, it wasn't a hypothetically. I'm sure
I'll think about it. It'll it'll come to it come
to us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But Uh, a.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Reporter who wasn't I don't think was trying to be
a smart Alec was just asking him if he has
gone through this process in his mind about consideration of
making a change but the head coaching.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Jerry did not like the question. In hears his response to.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Evaluate making a head coaching change in season.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I haven't considered that. I'm not considering that. So you're clear,
I'm not considering that. I wouldn't be a hypothetical in
that matter. Do you think I'm an idiot?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Well, I'm not gonna hypothetical with you about what I'd
consider coaching change, and a lot of the timing we're
sitting here with I'm not at all.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So so there it is. That was Sunday. I'm not
gonna hypothetical with you, is what he said. Then I'm
not gonna hypothetical with you. So it was a little
on edge for that. On Tuesdays, Tuesday mornings, he is
on one O five three the Fan, and I'm sure
(02:14):
he's well compensated for that appearance, and he was on
with their morning hosts and this was how their conversation
went with him and what he had to say about it,
And you could tell he begins to get unhappy with
his regular weekly hosts who have him on.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Jerry.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
You know there's been a lot of talk about execution.
I think you mentioned it here already. If the execution
has become a problem to the extent that you get
losses like the ones against New Orleans and Detroit, why
are those players still the right ones for your team?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, first of all, where are you gonna go to
get any players? Seriously, where you going to go to
get any players for the next week in San Francisco? Now?
Number one, I've seen these players. I've seen every one
of them execute like you want the players to be
executed and do their job within the role. That didn't
(03:17):
happen the other day, and we've paid the consequences for us,
But I've seen the players do it. I know we
have outstanding personnel, very outstanding personnel. We just made our
quarterback to high paid player in the NFL. We've just
hopped the receiver list charts. So we made our bed
relative to how we're going to approach with our key
(03:37):
people with the team. We were shorthanded out there on defense,
but everybody gets short handed. That's really not an excuse
in the NFL. Your depth should step up there and
you should be able if you can to compensate to
some degree. You can't compensate for the gap, so to speak,
(04:02):
that we had between the where our offense played and
the way we were supposed to play. And I only
give Detroit a lot of.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Credit for that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
They came actress and got actress, and they put guys
on top of every offensive lineman your head, and they came,
came at it and put the kind of pressure that
gave that a lot of problems and gave our running
game lot of problems. We've got to be able.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
To lift, Jared.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I think the counter back when you said, where are
you going to get the players? You can't get them
this week is and you're aware of all the off
season topics.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, but what is your counter? What is your damn counter?
My counter isn't want to know where you would go
or go get it now. Don't tell me about should
gotten a guy in the off season? Why not? This
isn't a bad word argument just because I'm not arguing
with you. I'm dealing with how we line up against
San Francisco, not what I did wrong last week or
(04:54):
last month, or two months ago or two years ago.
If I really gave you guys a list of all
the things I've done wrong over the last few years,
you couldn't be on this program for the next five years.
Steady and go over it. But every now and then
you do some right things and at the end of
the day you add it up and the rights give
(05:16):
you a better spot than the wrongs. But if you
think for any minute right now, there'll be one super
Bowl champion, what do the others do wrong? There's one
super Bowl champion now we want to be that champion.
And I'm sure not going to tally in today because
of what happened out there Sunday. But I'm not going
to sit here and waste a lot of energy, a
(05:37):
lot of time. Let's talk about what I should have
done back in nineteen seven seven or nineteen two thousand
and seven days had been Come on, come on, I've
got more time than that. And I actually don't even
have time on this great show for looking back at decisions.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Okay, So Jerry nineteen seventy a little different from this
past off season in building the team we're talking about today,
which there was a lot of criticism that you guys
didn't add, didn't spend and don't add and don't spend
and are not aggressive enough with some of the problems
that are still haunting the Cowboys today that we see
playing on the field.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's the point of talking about the off season?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Oh oh, I remember those criticisms very well. Okay, so what.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Are they playing out to be accurate?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
What's your point? What's your point? My point is it
seems like, let me tell you what I'll do. Let
me tell you what I'll do about it. I will
let us sit down and look at the decisions we've
made over the last several years. Okay, I'll look at
it now. If you think I'm interested on a damn
(06:49):
phone call with you over a radio and sitting here
and throwing all the good at with the dishwater, you
have got to be smoking something over there. I'm not,
and I really don't, and I don't even want our
listeners to listen to me to talk about this. Is
not your job. Your job is to let me go
(07:12):
over all the reasons that I did something and I'm
sorry that I did it. That's not your job.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, my job is to ask.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
My job or I'll get another I'll get somebody else
to ask these questions.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Man, Jerry, We're just we're trying to figure out why
the team is I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Not kidding it. I'm not kidding it. You're not going
to figure out it's what the team is doing right
or wrong. If you are are any five or ten
like you, you need to come to this meeting I'm
going to today. There are thirty two teams. Here are
your geniuses.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yep, all right, so there, yeah, well, you know he
did not want to have them say. He said, that's
not your job to tell me what I'm doing. Well,
sports media, that's that's what sports media does, especially the
talk show world, and for those guys who are Shan
(08:11):
cherff R J Chappi and Bobby Bell, the three guys
who do it on one oh FI three the fan
in Dallas. But the actual quote that he had there
when he said, now, if you think I'm interested on
a damn phone call with you over the radio and
sitting here and throwing all the good out with the dishwater,
(08:33):
you have got to be smoking something over this morning.
I'm not, and I really don't, and I don't even
want our listeners listening to me talk about this is
not your job. Your job isn't to let me go
over the reasons that I did something and I'm sorry
that I did it. That's not your job. That's not
your job. Or I'll get somebody else to ask these questions.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, no, I'm not kidding. That's the part I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
He's never been that, well for one of a better
term threatening, he's never been that at the absolute edge
of don't tell me this, or I'll find somebody else
to do the deal with. Other people have within his
organization of the years have done that. The most celebrated
(09:18):
one was the Barry Switzer thing with Dale Hanson t
even when they got into the actually physically pop in
one another at training camp and it got real uncomfortable,
and live television. There's been other things like that, you know,
but you don't hear it from Jerry's side. When Brad
(09:41):
Sham said in a preseason game, and Brad of course
was my boss for seven years and friends, and if
he were on this run, he would he would echo
exactly what I said when because I heard him say
it live at the time, bulletin, what Jerry Jones and
the Cowboys tell you isn't always the truth or always accurate.
(10:02):
I think what he said and you didn't hear Jerry
respond to that, but Brad had a.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Meeting with the owner as a result of that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So, uh, you know, we haven't heard Jerry publicly get
real uncomfortable about Elsa. That was uncomfortable. He was, he
was uncomfortable, and it was kind of a with the
guys there because I think they realized the pushing envelope
on the deal. So anyway, that's that's where it is,
(10:37):
because things are not going well.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
The team is three and three and they're a game.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Behind Washington and they're not you know, they're not in
a bad way or whatever that sort of thing yet,
but folks are forecasting really bad stuff down the road,
like you damn, you're you're you're you feel that you're
that that this team is staring a six game losing
streak right down the barrel and could be three and
(11:01):
eight the next time we look up. So it's going
to be interesting to follow him, starting with a road
trip to Santa Clara, coming off the bye week, going
to San Francisco. So we'll see all that goes, and
we'll continue to talk about it all right up next
Inconceivable here on this Tuesday afternoon here on Sports Radio
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Again to set the scene for you on this deal. Uh,
Jerry Uh does a couple of things and it really
aggravates some media people. I've noticed whenever he speaks after
every Cowboy game win or lose, and he does he does,
it aggravates some folks in the media.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Soide don't understand it. No, no owner does this, no
other owner.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But he's also the general manager, so he's also speaking
from the GM spot. That never really bothered me that much.
Jerry is Jerry. Jerry's gonna Jerry. He's just gonna be
himself and do that.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But this was what he had to say on Sunday. First,
we give you this.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
When a reporter is asking him if he has gone
through his mind hypothetically, because Jerry likes say hypothetically fundamentally,
he likes to use those terms a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What was the term he used, A training camp? They
said over and over on that is state of the team.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That draws new Yeah, it wasn't a hypothetically. I'm sure
I'll think about it. It'll it'll come to it come
to us.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But Uh, a.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Reporter who wasn't I don't think was trying to be
a smart Alec was just asking him if he has
gone through this process in his mind about consideration of
making a change but the head coaching.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Jerry did not like the question. In hears his response to.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Evaluate making a head coaching change in season.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I haven't considered that. I'm not considering that. So you're clear,
I'm not considering that. I wouldn't be a hypothetical in
that matter. Do you think I'm an idiot?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Well, I'm not gonna hypothetical with you about what I'd
consider coaching change, and a lot of the timing we're
sitting here with I'm not at all.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
So so there it is. That was Sunday. I'm not
gonna hypothetical with you, is what he said. Then I'm
not gonna hypothetical with you. So it was a little
on edge for that. On Tuesdays, Tuesday mornings, he is
on one O five three the Fan, and I'm sure
(02:14):
he's well compensated for that appearance, and he was on
with their morning hosts and this was how their conversation
went with him and what he had to say about it,
And you could tell he begins to get unhappy with
his regular weekly hosts who have him on.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Jerry.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
You know there's been a lot of talk about execution.
I think you mentioned it here already. If the execution
has become a problem to the extent that you get
losses like the ones against New Orleans and Detroit, why
are those players still the right ones for your team?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, first of all, where are you gonna go to
get any players? Seriously, where you going to go to
get any players for the next week in San Francisco? Now?
Number one, I've seen these players. I've seen every one
of them execute like you want the players to be
executed and do their job within the role. That didn't
(03:17):
happen the other day, and we've paid the consequences for us,
But I've seen the players do it. I know we
have outstanding personnel, very outstanding personnel. We just made our
quarterback to high paid player in the NFL. We've just
hopped the receiver list charts. So we made our bed
relative to how we're going to approach with our key
(03:37):
people with the team. We were shorthanded out there on defense,
but everybody gets short handed. That's really not an excuse
in the NFL. Your depth should step up there and
you should be able if you can to compensate to
some degree. You can't compensate for the gap, so to speak,
(04:02):
that we had between the where our offense played and
the way we were supposed to play. And I only
give Detroit a lot of.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Credit for that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
They came actress and got actress, and they put guys
on top of every offensive lineman your head, and they came,
came at it and put the kind of pressure that
gave that a lot of problems and gave our running
game lot of problems. We've got to be able.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
To lift, Jared.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I think the counter back when you said, where are
you going to get the players? You can't get them
this week is and you're aware of all the off
season topics.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, but what is your counter? What is your damn counter?
My counter isn't want to know where you would go
or go get it now. Don't tell me about should
gotten a guy in the off season? Why not? This
isn't a bad word argument just because I'm not arguing
with you. I'm dealing with how we line up against
San Francisco, not what I did wrong last week or
(04:54):
last month, or two months ago or two years ago.
If I really gave you guys a list of all
the things I've done wrong over the last few years,
you couldn't be on this program for the next five years.
Steady and go over it. But every now and then
you do some right things and at the end of
the day you add it up and the rights give
(05:16):
you a better spot than the wrongs. But if you
think for any minute right now, there'll be one super
Bowl champion, what do the others do wrong? There's one
super Bowl champion now we want to be that champion.
And I'm sure not going to tally in today because
of what happened out there Sunday. But I'm not going
to sit here and waste a lot of energy, a
(05:37):
lot of time. Let's talk about what I should have
done back in nineteen seven seven or nineteen two thousand
and seven days had been Come on, come on, I've
got more time than that. And I actually don't even
have time on this great show for looking back at decisions.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Okay, So Jerry nineteen seventy a little different from this
past off season in building the team we're talking about today,
which there was a lot of criticism that you guys
didn't add, didn't spend and don't add and don't spend
and are not aggressive enough with some of the problems
that are still haunting the Cowboys today that we see
playing on the field.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's the point of talking about the off season?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Oh oh, I remember those criticisms very well. Okay, so what.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Are they playing out to be accurate?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
What's your point? What's your point? My point is it
seems like, let me tell you what I'll do. Let
me tell you what I'll do about it. I will
let us sit down and look at the decisions we've
made over the last several years. Okay, I'll look at
it now. If you think I'm interested on a damn
(06:49):
phone call with you over a radio and sitting here
and throwing all the good at with the dishwater, you
have got to be smoking something over there. I'm not,
and I really don't, and I don't even want our
listeners to listen to me to talk about this. Is
not your job. Your job is to let me go
(07:12):
over all the reasons that I did something and I'm
sorry that I did it. That's not your job.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, my job is to ask.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
My job or I'll get another I'll get somebody else
to ask these questions.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Man, Jerry, We're just we're trying to figure out why
the team is I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Not kidding it. I'm not kidding it. You're not going
to figure out it's what the team is doing right
or wrong. If you are are any five or ten
like you, you need to come to this meeting I'm
going to today. There are thirty two teams. Here are
your geniuses.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yep, all right, so there, yeah, well, you know he
did not want to have them say. He said, that's
not your job to tell me what I'm doing. Well,
sports media, that's that's what sports media does, especially the
talk show world, and for those guys who are Shan
(08:11):
cherff R J Chappi and Bobby Bell, the three guys
who do it on one oh FI three the fan
in Dallas. But the actual quote that he had there
when he said, now, if you think I'm interested on
a damn phone call with you over the radio and
sitting here and throwing all the good out with the dishwater,
(08:33):
you have got to be smoking something over this morning.
I'm not, and I really don't, and I don't even
want our listeners listening to me talk about this is
not your job. Your job isn't to let me go
over the reasons that I did something and I'm sorry
that I did it. That's not your job. That's not
your job. Or I'll get somebody else to ask these questions.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Man.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, no, I'm not kidding. That's the part I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
He's never been that, well for one of a better
term threatening, he's never been that at the absolute edge
of don't tell me this, or I'll find somebody else
to do the deal with. Other people have within his
organization of the years have done that. The most celebrated
(09:18):
one was the Barry Switzer thing with Dale Hanson t
even when they got into the actually physically pop in
one another at training camp and it got real uncomfortable,
and live television. There's been other things like that, you know,
but you don't hear it from Jerry's side. When Brad
(09:41):
Sham said in a preseason game, and Brad of course
was my boss for seven years and friends, and if
he were on this run, he would he would echo
exactly what I said when because I heard him say
it live at the time, bulletin, what Jerry Jones and
the Cowboys tell you isn't always the truth or always accurate.
(10:02):
I think what he said and you didn't hear Jerry
respond to that, but Brad had a.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Meeting with the owner as a result of that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So, uh, you know, we haven't heard Jerry publicly get
real uncomfortable about Elsa. That was uncomfortable. He was, he
was uncomfortable, and it was kind of a with the
guys there because I think they realized the pushing envelope
on the deal. So anyway, that's that's where it is,
(10:37):
because things are not going well.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
The team is three and three and they're a game.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Behind Washington and they're not you know, they're not in
a bad way or whatever that sort of thing yet,
but folks are forecasting really bad stuff down the road,
like you damn, you're you're you're you feel that you're
that that this team is staring a six game losing
streak right down the barrel and could be three and
(11:01):
eight the next time we look up. So it's going
to be interesting to follow him, starting with a road
trip to Santa Clara, coming off the bye week, going
to San Francisco. So we'll see all that goes, and
we'll continue to talk about it all right up next
Inconceivable here on this Tuesday afternoon here on Sports Radio
Am thirteen under the zone of the iHeartRadio app
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