Longhorns Take Down the Tide, Big Portal Additions, NFL Playoff Wild Card Takeaways

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Texas takes on Alabama tonight. Here in TuS pollutions to
Mark again seven to shoot.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Tramon down in the corner.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Pulls up along the base side, fade away jumper gun
and he's fout boy.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
He had the hand in his face.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
It was Keaton Bristow who commits the foul and Mark
able to rise up, knock down the jumper and a
free throw to gun.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Nineteen to eighteen. Texas.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Here's Pope office screen for three. It's good and Jordan
gets his first bucket of the night. Out past end
of a corner at eight hollway back out front, driving
down the lane and what a great block, a stand
up block on defense. Fight's Rayary Logwards come back the
other way. Kendall Weaver puts it in.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Beating him at third game, blocking shots and getting transitions.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Tram On down the four to three spins, turns, fade
away jumper up.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It is good.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It rattled around the rim and it went down. Tramon
Mark sixteen first half points. Texas leads by eleven forty
five thirty four. Pope coming off the screen, fought three,
didn't shoot it now rolls right side, will tee up
the he knocks it down. Pope with his third three
of the ball game. He is thirteen Texas, just like
that a page. It's about a spoka tist one dribble
back to Pope, wants another three pas another three, Jordan, Pope,

(01:13):
till a couple of threes here in the second half
down the floor to shoot. Here is Pope having a
step back log three God, and that'll quiet the ground.
The third three of the second half from Jordan Pope.
Texas up ten sixty three fifty three. Weaver drive in traffic,
pumps look, swings it back out from the hiding.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
He'll trigger up a three. Good damn. Heidi knocks down
his first three.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Of the night, and Texas is up thirteen at sixty
nine fifty six. How's past to Trey Orry holds it
up top Now to Jordan Pope to the right side. Pope,
still on the dribble, trying to drive in, pulls up,
leans around traffic with a right hand floater in heascore
lead past Trebon Mark driving into the paint around traffic,
puts it up.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
It is no good off. It's a redin on the
stick back dayl and sway huge swaying with thirteen. Texas
up three.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
On the right side, whether it is LeBaron filindribbles the
left side, shoots.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
A three for the league.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Missed it up the back iron, scramp it for the
rate bound and tremaon Mark comes out of it, drives
down the floor, lays it in. Texas up three, twenty
three seconds to go. It's eighty eight, eighty five to
make it a four point game.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's good. Pope hits it twenty eight for Jordan twenty
in the second half, four point nine to go.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Alabama will inbound. They throw a baseball pass. It's cloth
Allen launches a three.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's no good. That's gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
The Long Worns have their first SEC win of the season,
the first SEC win for Sean Miller, and they do
it on the road against the ranked opponent. Final score
tonight the Texas Lawhorns ninety two, the Alabama Crimson Tide
eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
As important wins go, it was certainly one of them.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
The Long Worn men's basketball team Texas women's basketball team.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Suffers its first loss of the season.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
There's an NFL wildcard action to recap, and of course,
the National Championship for College Football is all set, and
how about the big weekend in the portal for the
Texas long worn football program. Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to
the program here on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
The zone by name is Craig Waite, Thanks so much
for joining us.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
The man who put together that montage on you here
an NFL playoff montage from him. A little later on
as the producer, Jay Carman, what all did you have
rolling on of your weekend?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
A lot of viewing?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, it was a montage type of weekend.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
It was.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
It was.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I watched a lot of sports this weekend, and you
know what, I have no complaints about it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
None.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well, I wished a couple of results were different. I
wish the Texas women had gotten it done at LSU, right,
But I, as far as watching the NFL playoffs goes
as a neutral with my team kind of left out
of it, Yeah, I was. I mean that was that
was exciting.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
So you don't you don't have a side team, or
at least for the postseason. You know, in fantasy football.
Uh if if during your fantasy football season it doesn't
go well for you, they have playoff leagues where people draft,
you know, players of playoff teams. But and I know
several guys who don't play fantasy football, but they kind

(04:28):
of have a side team for the postseason if their
team doesn't reach the playoffs. And usually I would say
it's not so much that it's a side team as
much as it is anybody but that team winning, So like,
would it be safe to say that maybe you might

(04:49):
have felt that way about the Eagles anybody, but Philadelphia
winning you're okay with?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Is that? Is that how that works?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
I was very happy that the Eagles lost. Yes, it
just it just didn't look right there year. I know
I drafted them in our Super Bowl preview with Cameron
when we were going back and forth drafting the teams,
but I picked the Niners on the show on Friday,
and you know, we just couldn't ignore the warning signs
from that offense the second half of the year, just
not ever looking right.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
As a Rams fan, obviously, was you know happy with
their win, although it certainly is you know, gives someone
with heart problems reason not to watch because of stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
But they did win.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
But you know, there's two other division opponents that are
still alive in the playoffs. Fortunately, they face off against
one another this week, so one of them is going
to go out. Either Seattle or San Francisco, one of
them will go out. But it's you know, quite often
for a lot of fans, it's like my team's not
in it. I just hope that such and such is

(05:54):
not it. Like, for example, I've got a brother who
ranks things and does things and all this kind of stuff,
and for some reason, I mean, he's a Cowboys fan first,
but of course that doesn't come into play here. He's
a bit of a Chiefs fan. That doesn't come into play.
So he's kind of become on anybody. But and check

(06:16):
the box. Two of the three teams he wanted to
lose of the weekend got knocked out. One was the Eagles,
the Yells, the Packers because he kind of likes the Bears,
so I think the third one he didn't want to
win was New England. But the Patriots looked good in
terms of just slowly asphyxiating the Charger offense last night
in winning that and winning that game. So anyway, some

(06:38):
people have the teams. And that's a question for the
text line as well, is do you have a side
team for the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Who do you root for if that's the case.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
So we also have some basketball tickets we'll give away
both today and tomorrow for Texas Men against Vanderbilt undefeated,
tenth rank Vanderbilt in a Moody Center on Wednesday night,
and we'll give away some tickets.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Will tell you how you can win those.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Coming up, the college football playoff is down to his
national championship matchup. It's the number one seed Indiana against
the ten seed, the Miami Hurricanes, and they're playing on
the hurricanes home field at hard Rock Stadium, and Indiana's
favored by at least a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think going into that game for those seven in
the hook, wow wow.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
But they look that impressive on Friday night in dismantling Oregon.
Miami I think is a physically tougher team than Oregon.
But can they make enough place against Indiana to do it?
And again, I say quote unquote on their home field.
There's a couple of things that mitigate that. However, one

(07:49):
national championship, so certain allotment of the tickets go to
other people, kind of like with the Super Bowl, Corporate
people stuff like that. Conferences get them so you start
from that mindset. Then each side gets a block of
tickets that they will undoubtedly sell out, and then the

(08:11):
rest of us going to wind up on secondary ticket market.
And then that's where a lot of the Indiana fans
went to get their tickets for the Peach Bowl, which
had what they say about an eighty percent Indiana fan
break down, eighty twenty to the Oregon fan break down
there in the Peach Bowl in Atlanto Friday.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
It was probably ninety five five both in the stadium
and at Haymaker in Austin where.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I watched them. Really yeah, really yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
That's what they were saying. It was a sea of red.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I don't know how many folks were kind of surprised
to hear about this, but it was brought up during
the telecas.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's been brought up since on a couple of things that.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Indiana has the largest living alumni fan base in the
entire United States of America. Indiana does big school. It
is a big school, but you would think that schools
that have, you know, really large enrollments much larger than Indiana,
like Texas or Ohio State or you know, some of

(09:10):
those other ones like that might have that, but.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I feel like Michigan has claimed that before.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
By they have, Yes, they have, but it was set
on the telecast, and I've heard in other place since
Indiana has that now. So it's a week from tonight
is the National Championship game, and we have plenty of
time to break that down, and we will over the
course of the next several days. Up next, we'll take

(09:35):
a look back at the long worn basketball win, the
loss for the Texas women. We'll get to the portal
conversation as well, because the Longhorns did for those who
were grumbling about, oh, they're not doing it. I kept saying,
there's days, there's still days, there's still days. And there
was Cam Coleman sitting in Coleman Coliseum and Tuscaloose, Alabama

(09:55):
on Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Did you talk to him?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
We were way up top or ours was, Yeah, it
was up by.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
And I'm not saying the basketball win for the long
warns tip the scales. I'm just saying Texas won the game,
and Cam Coleman is in the long run, but he's
not the only one that's coming to Texas through the
portal at a big weekend.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
We'll get to that.

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Speaker 10 (15:45):
This zone.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now before to shoot.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Here is Pope having a step back log, Free gone,
and I'll quiet the crowd.

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Speaker 1 (16:30):
Until four times when Jordan Pope, who hit four threes
in the second half and six for the ball game,
turned the Alabama crowd to stone because he'd got real quiet.
In fact, they probably didn't get that crowd that loud
until they tied it at seventy four it's pretty late
in the game, and it was pretty loud then, but

(16:51):
the long words.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Again had the answer.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Alabama also missed twice mister freefod that would have given
them the lead and mister three that would have given
the lead. They never reclaim the lead after Texas had
taken the lead on an a eight zero run from
down fifteen to ten to up eighteen fifteen at about
the fourteen and a half minute mark in the first half,
and even though Alabama caught him twice in the second half,

(17:14):
they were never able to get over the hump and
take the lead, which all the players said was a
big factor. In fact, let's hear from it right now.
Assistant coach David Miller and Jordan Pope, who hit that
big three and who had twenty eight points in the game,
were part of my postseason conversation with the Texas staff.
What a gutty, gritty performance from a ball club that

(17:35):
had had some struggles. And I know that you and
Coach Miller and the rest of the staff I wanted
to see effort from these guys, and you certainly saw
it today.

Speaker 18 (17:41):
All eight guys, man, all eight guys that played, showed
an amazing effort from start to finish, you know, like
we kept the lead, we kept punching back and take
those punches in this building with that team and that offense,
to punch back every time, it was huge and it
was great to see the guys respond.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
How important was it to never trail on the second
half they caught you but couldn't take the lead, and
then you guys would push back.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Huge.

Speaker 18 (18:03):
I mean the stats they go on and on about
their threes and their tempo and their pace, and you
got guys like Aiden.

Speaker 16 (18:10):
Holloway in filon all over the court.

Speaker 18 (18:13):
They have shooting at every position except the five, and
even their five hit two tonight. You know, So to
keep punching back and to get back in transition and
make our own plays in transition.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
It was huge.

Speaker 19 (18:23):
Well, I thought you were loose balls and you had
guys rebounding out your area. I thought that was huge
to that and you had rebound that albeit with about
ten Yeah.

Speaker 10 (18:31):
I mean, Kenda Weaver does what Kenda Weaver does.

Speaker 18 (18:33):
You know, he got on the floor with a couple
of those loose balls at the end that we didn't get,
you know, in a couple other games, Mississippi State but
I think Lacina Trejor deserves a ton of credit. Those
eight rebounds, those five offensive rebounds. We don't win the
game if Losina doesn't do that in his twenty two minutes.
It wasn't that modest is playing bad. We love to
see those six rebounds. But for Locina to go vertical, coach,

(18:55):
like you saw over and over again and protect the rim,
it was.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Hey, you spent two years here is a little extra
special for you to come in here and get with.

Speaker 18 (19:03):
It's crazy, you know, I was here for two years
of coach Johnson and to see what coach Oates has done,
you know, with the program and the crowd, and this
is my first time I've been back since twenty seventeen.
It's a little extra special because this is a special
place and they have a great program.

Speaker 10 (19:16):
So yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
All right, appreciate the time. Congrats on the big win.

Speaker 16 (19:20):
Thank you guys, Appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
All right, that's long runs Assistant coach at David Miller
and Jordan Pope. As they say in British soccer parlance,
the man of the match coming in making the threes,
but also the free throws. And this team is normally
a good free throw shooting team, Jordan. So when there
was that spell when free throws weren't going in for
a while.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
And then you get bout, you hadn't been to the
line at all, and here it is late in the game.
What's going through your mind?

Speaker 20 (19:44):
You know, I'm just stressing my work. We should fit
thosevery day as a team. I'm not sure more, you know,
on my own time. So in that moment, I'm not
really stressed or you know, pressure, because you know something
I work on a thousand times, a million times.

Speaker 16 (19:54):
So I felt good out there.

Speaker 20 (19:55):
They all feel good, and I'm glad they were able.

Speaker 10 (19:57):
To call go in.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You and I have talked a lot about that you're
outside shooting when you have a game where those teams
can try to fight through screens and guard you.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
How much extra special efforts does it take a to
work for.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Your shot to get it and be to make sure
you're still in rhythm to be able to knock it down, and.

Speaker 20 (20:14):
Just do a little things off the ball, like set
my guys up a little better with hard cuts, hard fakes.
I act like I'm doing something I was just to
try to get that extra stuff that a little space,
just enough to get my shot off. And you know
I did a good job of doing that. You know,
shout out to my team and said it did a
great job finding me and screaming from you.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I just asked coach Miller said, how important was it
to never trail on the second? They caught you twice
but they couldn't take the lead on you? Is that
an emotional thing? When you don't let them get in
front of you?

Speaker 20 (20:38):
There shows are resilience, you know, like you said, an
emotional thing the crowd get into.

Speaker 16 (20:42):
Is getting loud in there.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
They're going on the runs, just being able.

Speaker 20 (20:44):
To weather the storm, you know, settle down and make
sure we get into our stuff and execute.

Speaker 16 (20:47):
And we did a good job of doing that.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
How good is a feeble to get a road win
like this in this league?

Speaker 20 (20:52):
Phil's greatest It is a hard thing to do, is tough,
and it's doing here at Alabama a really good team.
It means a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know, He's got to build on it and keep
moving forward. Congrats on the landmark effort, big wind to night,
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Hook him. That's Jordan Pope twenty eight points in the
ball game, and you'll hear the conversation with Sean Miller
tomorrow night. We'll bring you Longhorn Weekly as it shifts
to Tuesdays for a few weeks here because of travel

(21:21):
on Wednesday or travel for Tuesday games. So tomorrow we
have long worn weekly with Sean Miller, and you'll hear him.
Among the topics discussed was something I think Jimmy Dykes
was alluding to.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I didn't hear it.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You heard it Jake on the telecast about the difficult
conversations that Shawn had to have with his team throughout
the course of the week and what was going on
through that and even through shoot around, and how he
was really challenging his guys.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Jordan Pope was one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Remember, throughout the Lion's share of the second half of
the loss on Tuesday night at Tennessee, Jordan Pope and
Dalan Swain sat on the bench in play in a
lot of the second half, and sometimes the coach feels
it's necessary to send the message and to get it
across what he's expecting from them. I think Vick Shaffer

(22:22):
did a similar thing yesterday with Rory Harmon. Rory's deal
was more about just the inability to stop Mikhayla Williams,
because she was just huge in the game. But for
the others, it was more about the effort because the
effort's never a question with Rory and she's always going
one hundred percent, all out all the time. But with

(22:43):
those other two guys in the Tennessee game, what Sean
Miller and what assistant was David Miller who's not related
to Sean, and Urick Malaghee and Adam Cohen, what they
were doing is having to challenge these guys to give
a better effort of what And that was the message

(23:04):
I think during the course of the week, and I
asked Sean specific questions about that word epic effort because
and I said this on the show and again it
airs tomorrow evening at seven o'clock here on the Zone,
and there's some really good stuff in it.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Adam Cohen was on with us as well, assistant coach.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
But one of the things I asked Sean specifically about
with regard to effort, I said, you know, it's my
twenty fifth year on play by play for the University,
and I think it's my thirty eighth year.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
On the network.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Overall, I had nine basketball seasons as the analyst and
four as a studio anchor.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
And I said, you know, all coaches talk about the effort.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
We've heard Sark talk at great length about it, James
Slasnagel talks about Vick Shaeffer talks about the effort thing.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
But I will submit to you that I don't think
I've heard the word effort.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
And to extrapolate a little further out the words that
he describes, I think a relentless effort that Sean Miller
has described, I don't think I've heard it described in
such detail with regard to the effort from any other
coach over the past twenty five years, to the way
that Sean Miller was describing effort on the game. And

(24:27):
so you'll hear him talk about that on Wednesday, But
I imagine what Jimmy Dykes was talking about that also
with regard to the shoot around and then the workouts before.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, he brought up some pretty direct challenges, right, And
the quote was something along the lines of and Jimmy
Dikes didn't reveal which specific player Sean Miller was talking to,
something along the lines of that's not good enough and
if you're not going to put in the effort we need,
I can make arrangements for you to play somewhere else.
You don't have to play for me.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Right, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
We were talking about that and Eddie Orn dropped in,
as he is so great about doing he can drop
in a pretty witty line about something. Eddie was reflecting
on his time when he was on Bob Weltlck's staff
here in the eighties and things were not going well.
And this was in reference to the fact that Sean

(25:20):
always expects a lot of his players and the work
very hard on it and things like that. But until
he gets the players that he exactly wants in his
in his system, they're still going to kind of be
fighting uphill and things like that. And by the way,
another thing for the show tomorrow night, he in the
early in the show, he refers to the fact that

(25:45):
other than Dylan Swaying, really other than Swaying, this was
the everybody else's brand news. So it's a new coach
and so there's still this adjustment phase. It's going to
go on, that sort of thing. So but I say
the whole hbout until he gets in his full roster
of what he wants, the type of players that he
wants to recruit, and he's got three really good sign

(26:05):
he's coming in for next year. And Eddie Orn, reflecting
on this, said, you know, coach Welllyck one time said
he would say to an individual player, Hey, if you want,
you can come into my office on Monday and give
me a list of five schools you'd like to transfer to,
and we'll see what we can do. And Eddie said

(26:27):
he didn't turn to coach Weltlock and said, coach, there
weren't five schools that were even recruiting that guy. Classic
Eddie Oron talking about that, there weren't even five schools
recruiting the guy at the first play. What five schools
would want.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
To now nowadays, of course the list will be long.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, exactly. And we get into those things too, about
transfer portal and stuff like that. So there's a lot,
like I said to Unpacked, from that win, and we'll
have more on that. We're going to hear from Sean
Miller coming up next hour and in the four o'clock
hour here are his postgame comments. But again we're also
going to bring you give you a little sneak preview

(27:04):
of tomorrow's show by bringing you one segment. And I
felt it was important to do this because my phone
has been blown up with texts, I've gotten emails, and
there's been people on social media asking about this laborious, painful,
seemingly endless process of appeals and challenges that happened. Oh,

(27:27):
I have thoughts, especially on the part of Nate Oates,
the head coach at Alabama. So what I asked Sean
to do when we recorded the show today and again
it's going to air tomorrow, what I asked him to
do was to delineate, to describe the differences between the
appeal and the challenge, what's at stake, what they're looking for,

(27:48):
and all of that. Even though the show will air tomorrow,
we're going to bring you a sneak preview of it
coming up in the four o'clock hour, where we'll hear
him break it down on why when, in.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
The pro and cons of it.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
There's a lot of cons as you might imagine, but
there's some pros I guess as well, But we'll hear
him talk about all of that. So's that's coming up
in the four o'clock hour. In the three o'clock hour.
We'll hear Sean discuss this win after the game and
the importance of that. By the way, I mentioned the
assistant coaches for Texas well, Adam Cohen, who will be

(28:24):
on the program with us. You'll hear tomorrow evening, Urick
Malagi and David Miller. You heard David Miller's postgame interview
with me just a few minutes ago. Those three coaches
have been named to the seventh annual Silver Waves Media
one one hundred most Impactful High Major Coaches List. That's mouthful,

(28:47):
but again, it's the one hundred most Impactful High Major
Coaches List, seventh annual type of list to comm that's
kind of like, what is it the Broils of war Bard?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
In college football?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
For the top college football assistant, he usually goes to
a coordinator off a team that's really doing well. Cohen
in his first season as an assistant coach at Texas.
Of course, all these guys in their first season here
with Sean Miller his eighteenth year overall of collegiate coaching,
and during his collegiate coaching career, Cohen has helped five

(29:24):
teams from four different conferences advanced in the NCAA Tournament
and two squads reached the postseason n IT. He's also
helped develop thirteen players who've seen game action in the NBA.
The other thing about Adam He's coached at pretty much
every high academic institution in Division one except maybe Duke.

(29:46):
We're talking Vanderbilt, Stanford, Rice, Harvard, those four in addition
to being at Arizona and also at Texas, so he's
worked at some brainiac institutions as well. York Malagi is
in his first season, but it's his second stint.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
He had been at Texas earlier.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yorick was on Chris Beard's staff and left to go
to Kansas State after Chris Beard's first season before Beard
was dismissed during the second season. York left after the
first season with the k State. Now he's back his
nineteenth year overall collegiate coaching, and during his collegiate career,
he's helped six teams advance to the NCAA Tournament, three

(30:29):
teams reached the postseason n IT, and five have claimed
conference championship. He's also developed and or coached seventeen players
who have seen game action in the NBA, and David
Miller his first season at Texas, You're and me ask
him about him returning to Alabama, where he was there
during his coaching career. His thirteenth year overall of collegiate coaching,

(30:52):
he's helped four teams advance to the NCAA Tournament, two
squads reached the postseason n It's also helped develop twenty
one players who've seen game action in the NBA. His dad,
David Miller, Sr. Was also a Bob Welwick staff back
in the eighties. So anyway, so that those three guys
have been named there to the one hundred most Impactful

(31:15):
High Major Coaches list for the season. All right, up next,
we bring in Conceivable on Monday afternoon here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen under the zone of the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Here on a Monday afternoon here on Sports Radio AM
perching one hundreds the zone. Our man s he.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Passes Hey for entertainment. Cocaine Bear is on Sci Fi Channel.
It seems like you and Jeff talked about that a
lot when it came out we did. Jeff was all
about Cocaine Bear. Yeah, had some pretty good comic relief.
So anyway, not sure understand this text. Maybe the text
are going to help me out, little bit says, so

(32:04):
we are taking speech lessons from LSU.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I'm not sure helped me out on that one, because
I'm not sure.

Speaker 10 (32:14):
On that.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
So I'm not sure what that is. No, I'm not either, Okay,
so let me know.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Meanwhile, we had somebody on the talkback feature who had
a question for me.

Speaker 16 (32:28):
Hey, Craig, is there any truth to realignment in the MLB?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
There's always a lot of conversation about it. I have
not heard that it's definitely happened. I think the next
time that we see realignment in Major League Baseball will
happen when they add and I think they're going to
add two more teams in the next five years, if
not sooner. They're at thirty, so we get it to
that nice round number thirty two, and you'd have sixteen

(32:57):
in each and I think we'd go back to more
balance scheduling if that happens. And then that might be
unfortunate because I think you might miss.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Out on.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Some interleague action as a result of that. But they
can make it work. They can make the schedule work.
That's what computer programs are for for that. But and
then you say Okay, well where would they expand to.
I'm hearing the number one spots. Probably Nashville, Charlotte is
a possibility for expansion. New Orleans seems to pop up

(33:31):
all the time, but it kind.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Of dies on the vine. I don't know that that
will happen with that.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
So yeah, Portland's been brought up a few times, I think,
as well Salt Lake. Now they have an HL and
NBA there, So those are some of the candidates might
come up if and when it does expand. And then
to the callers question, I think when you have expansion

(33:57):
is when you'll have realignment.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Right, and then you could go to two teams, then
you go eight divisions, four teams each. And what Manfred
has floated and maybe people have taken and run with
for their own scenarios, is an East versus West to
alleviate travel and shorten the postseason by getting rid of
so many travel days.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, yeah, we're able to not have as many travel days.
So it all kind of is a trickle down from there.
So that's one thing that Rob Manfred has been talking
about is if they realign, But they can't really realign
until they get it to the even number of thirty
two for scheduling purposes, and like you said, eight divisions
of four in each, just like in the NFL where

(34:38):
we have the East, the North, the South, and the West.
That's probably what it'd be, and before in each and
then you would probably have those those teams wind up
in the playoffs and maybe wild cards as well.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I don't know, would see how it would affect scheduling
as well.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Hey, coming up, pass up Tobi hour in addition to
what we're gonna do about hearing from Sean Miller in
Texas basketball and looking at the NFL playoffs as well
in the Texas women's team. Our own cameraon Parker is
going to join us. I've got some pointed questions I
need to ask him. It's a couple of things to
answer for. We'll get to that coming up an hour

(35:19):
number two right here on sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
The Zone and the iHeartRadio app. Second hour of the
program here on sports Radio AM thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Glad to have you with us on a Monday. Hope
your Monday's going okay?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Listen, It's only fair if I say on Fridays, if
Friday's your traditional Friday, like the traditional work week, and
I say, good on you, good for you, hope it
goes well. And I say for those you know, I say,
for those poor individuals who Friday is really kind of
their Monday. Maybe that means they're Monday becomes their Friday
or something like that. So good for you if that's

(36:04):
the case. The rest of us, hey, we manage and
we go through it as best we can.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Glad to have you.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Was coming up a little later. In just a few minutes,
we'll hear from Sean Miller his thoughts, and we also
will start and we'll hear from Vick Schaeffer, Texas Women's
head coach with the long runs coming off the lass
to ls you, I wanted to take an opportunity. Wow,
we had a few minutes to have Cameron Parker pop
in here. It's important, I think, for us on the

(36:33):
radio station where Cam is concerned to have a little
bit of proof of life from time to time. Because
Cameron sat in Jake's chair our first two years and
plus and produce this program, and then he got promoted upstairs,
so to speak. I began to refer to him as

(36:53):
a middle management clown. But he's but he's but he's
as assistant program right now. We still work very closely together.
He's my engineer on long run men's basketball, and he
will still fill in on some play by play for
us on occasion. I think I got a baseball game
or two for you coming up here around the corner.
We'll get to all of that. But Cameron established himself

(37:16):
also on this program for several things. One his hatred
of all things Jerry Jones and his disaffected nature with
his favorite NFL team, the Dallas Cowboys, That's one thing.
And so I needed to get an update from you
on all of this. With ebra Flus being fired and

(37:36):
the Cowboys moving forward. I know Jerry's Jerry's Jerry's always
going to be there, But how do you feel about
the moves the Cowboys make made?

Speaker 21 (37:45):
Well, Obviously, the defense was horrendous, and I think horrendous
might be putting it lightly in terms of like statistically,
I think it's one of the worst NFL defenses in
this century, So it makes sense ebra Flus was not retained.
The sad part of it it is going the next season.
The Cowboys will, I think, have their fourth different defensive
coordinator in as many years, and Craig, you know this

(38:07):
from Texas football during the twenty tens, where every year
there's a different offensive coordinator, different play caller, and all
that does is just stunt the growth of so many players.
So on one hand, it's necessarily that Dallas makes the
move defensively in terms of their coaching, but at the
same time, it's just hurting the defense and these players,

(38:27):
and it's probably been a bit reason why the Cowboys
have struggled defensively.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Here's a question I put to the listeners today, do
you have a side team in the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Now that we're to the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Because I said, you know, fantasy guys, the guys who
played fantasy football sometimes when their teams get knocked out,
they have fantasy playoff drafts, so they can kind of
plug back into it. But even if you're not doing that,
if it's just NFL playoffs in general, do you have
a side team?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Not really.

Speaker 21 (38:54):
I was asked this yesterday, like is anyone you're rooting for?
It was like, no, but there's one team I'm not
rooting for, and I think Jake agrees with me. It's
the Philadelphia Eagles. One team I did not care everyone else.
You know, usually at this point, I kind of like
the root for players' legacies. So I always enjoyed rooting
for Mahomes, even though you diggle to Texas Tech and
a lot of people don't like him or the Chiefs,

(39:15):
but it's, you know, cool to see both his legacy.
I think it'd be a lot of fun to see
Josh Allen finally get a championship. Ring went to high
school with the May family, so I kind of a
connection there, a little bit to Drake May obviously.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
You know, you know there's a.

Speaker 21 (39:27):
Couple of Texas players still in the playoffs. Kyle Shanahan
a Texas guy. So I'm just rooting for a good
matchup here, to be honest. And so even you know
your rams, I like Stafford. You know, a couple of
Longhorn legends on that team.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, you got Poona Ford who's wreaking some havoc on
the defensive front. You got Jordan Whittington, who may be
back coming off the knee injury, maybe back for this
week's game against Chicago. Okay, But the other thing that
you've established yourself for is being the knowledgeable golf officionado
that you are fine golfer in his own right. But

(40:01):
in addition to that, his following of the PGA Tour
and of the Lift Golf Tour UH is important to
mention Cameron made his feelings known about how much he
hated Live Golf. He hated I think about you every
time I get an email from the Live Golf communications staff.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
You're the only person on that chain I don't know
get I get what.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I get them almost weekly, so I wanted to, you know,
eventually send them to you. But anyway, there's a couple
of there's a couple of PGA related items that I
want to ask about. One the FedEx Cup Falls schedule
is going to include two new tournaments. One we know
right here in Austin, UH. There's also a new one

(40:45):
in Nashville, North Carolina. So there's there's one there the
cliffs at Walnut Cove. I don't believe you've played that,
of course, have you? Okay, it'll be get This the
PGA Tour's first tournament in Ashville since Ben Hogan won
the last three. Ashville opens from nineteen forty to forty two,

(41:06):
and anybody who's been to Ashville, no, it's what a
beautiful place it is. I've had it described me this way,
and I'm inclined to kind of agree. It's like Austin
from fifty sixty years ago, put in the mountains. It's
very eclectic and it's really cool. There is a college
in the town, unc Asheville, but it's not so much

(41:26):
about me in the college town.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
It's more of an artist's kind of town and it's
very very cool.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
So there's that, So that's pretty cool, as well as
obviously the event coming to Austin, which will be really
cool to have that again, even though it's beyond the
determination of winning the FedEx Cup.

Speaker 21 (41:44):
Yeah, it'll be at Omni Barton Creek, so it will
not be at the Austin Country Cup anymore, which does stink.
I think a lot of people love the tournament acc
I think the members are ready at the move past
it so they come back to Austin though it's going
to be at Toms the Sign, and I think this
is kind of a warm up event for twenty twenty seven.

(42:06):
I think the PJ Tour schedule is gonna look so
different in twenty twenty seven, and that includes probably no
more trips to Hawaii. So this Sony Open this week
maybe the last time we have a PGA Tour event
in Hawaii for a long time. But they're kind of
playing this event at Barton Creek to kind of see
kind of gauge how it works out, with eyes on
maybe moving it back to the March spot in the

(42:27):
schedule in twenty seven. Like the Austin Country Club event
used to be the Doll match Play, right, that was
always in March leading up to the Masters, and then
of course the WGZ events went away. So this is
kind of just a let's see how it works out
type of thing, but hopefully we're going to have this
great event to have. It is the week in the
LSU game, so Texas football fans are walking to attend

(42:49):
this game if you're not going to Baton Rouge and
maybe you can attend the Good Good Championship.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
By the way, Good to sponsor Good Good Golf.

Speaker 21 (42:58):
So it's exciting though, you know, obviously the match play
meant a lot to me, and it meant a lot
to the Austin community. It sucks on having an event
here in Austin, but hopefully this means that we're going
to have golf become a major part of the PJ
Tour calendar going forward.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Why is it going away from Hawaii? I hadn't heard that.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
All.

Speaker 21 (43:15):
That's a great question. There's a lot of different answers. So,
of course, this last weekend was supposed to be the Century,
which is usually.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Played at Capelua. Right now, Capolua went through.

Speaker 21 (43:25):
A major drought in the west side of Maui, and
so the PJ Tour decided to move the event away
because of the issues happening between the Kapelua Plantation Course
and the Maui Land and Pineapple Company, which kind of
owns a lot of the a lot of the acreage
in Mali that is responsible for watering the golf course.

(43:46):
There's like a two hour podcast we can do based
on what's happening. Basically, the PJA Tour said, Hey, okay,
a lot happening there. We're not going to play this
event at Capelua. And instead of having a makeup event
the same weekend, they said no more. And then now
with the Sony Open PJ Tour and that's a who
why live right, and they've refused to extend this tournament.

(44:08):
Really talk about it and to think about it. PJ
Tour has increased the purses to these events. I think
fifteen or twenty million dollars the winner of this event. Well,
it costs a lot of money to have an event
in Hawaii, right, It's a lot of money to build
the infrastructure, to move your staff out there at the
house players, all of that and above. And this was

(44:32):
set up by the previous regime the PJ Tour. J Monahan,
Brian Rollaps come in. He's had experience with Believe the
NFL and Believe the MLB. He's coming in with a
how can we make more money and save money type
of thinking, And these events and y cost a tour
a lot of money. I think he's looking at possibly
just eliminating it and also maybe moving the schedule back

(44:54):
because you know PJ Tour this weekend starting up, it's
going up against the the college football playoffs, also the
NFL playoffs right now, a lot of people are gonna
be watching unless they happen to stumble upon the golf
channel in between UH divisional games, right, So looking at
possibly moving the schedule back past the Super Bowl when
they're gonna have more viewers, more coverage, make more money

(45:15):
from NBC or CBS, and that would basically just eliminate
the Hawaii which sucks because it's great viewing.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, and isn't Super Bowl. We can always win the
waste management. What's going on in Phoenix?

Speaker 21 (45:26):
Yeah, of course, some may remember Scottie Shuffer's first PGA
Tour win was in a playoff at the Phoenix Open.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
At the same time, the Bengals and Rams were playing
a Super.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Bowl game, so they and totally forgot about Scotty and
I was so wrapped up in the Rams, of course,
a lot of people. Yeah, and and and uh and
Ryan Reynolds, not the actor, but the associate director of
athletics basketball operations guy with Texas. He's a lifelong Bengals guy,
so it would have been in his mind. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay,

(45:57):
So that's that's one thing which, by the way, I
hate to hear about a lot of this going away
and very little retro. One retro has nothing to do
with golf, NASCAR. Going back to North Wilkesborol. Yeah, last
year they had the All Star Race. They got it
in the rotation coming up, which I think is really cool.
A little old track up there in the foothills of
the Mountains.

Speaker 21 (46:16):
And they also decided to eliminate the playoffs too. They
just decided to go back to the chase format, which
began what like twenty years ago. Basically, the chase format
ended Jeff Gordon's reign unfortunately. But instead of the playoffs
where every three races four drivers are eliminated, just goes
back to the ten race.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Whoever has the most points wins the championship.

Speaker 21 (46:36):
So NASCAR making changes, PJA Tour making changes, all trying
to stay up to date, stay a float compared to
what the NBA and NFL is doing.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
But the biggest changes, I'm sure you're about to get
to here.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, yeah, and I because I couldn't. This was the
primary reason. Havev and Cameron come in here. Brooks kept cup.
He's back, five time major champion, returning to the PGA Tour.
It's part of this new returning member program. Sounds like
something a credit card company does. It's going to allow

(47:07):
three of Live Golf's other top stars to come back
if they want so. Kepka is expected to make his
return at the Farmer's Insurance Open, and that's at Torrey
Pines there and Laoya there in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
At the end of the month.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
He's expected playing that Waste Management Phoenix Open the following week.
So and this returning member program is allowing live golfers
who've been away from the PGA Tour for at least
two years and who won the Players Championship or one
of the four Majors to be able to come back
under certain conditions with severe financial penalties. The other golfers

(47:44):
who could return, Bryce and to Shambeau, John Rom Cameron
Smith could all return. So you hated all of them
when they left, So especially Kopka, especially Brooksy, you kind
of softened on the Shambo since he won a major
or two kind of you've kind of softened on him
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I think I have on all of them.

Speaker 21 (48:06):
So basically what this what's happening now is the PJ
Tour has seen all the chaos in the transfer portals,
So okay, we're gonna have our own transfer portal so
lif golfers can.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Transfer back to the PGA Tour here.

Speaker 21 (48:17):
But basically, Brian Rolapp the new commissioner, just giving double
middle fingers to anyone not named bryceon Rom and Cam Smith,
Hudson Swafford. Yeah, we don't care about you, Kevin Na
enjoy Live. We're only going to bring back the big names, right.
And the funny thing too, is Craig you mentioned you
know the criteria will come back major winners from twenty

(48:38):
twenty two twenty twenty five. Do you guys know who
won a major championship in twenty twenty one? Phil Mickelson.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yes he did.

Speaker 21 (48:46):
And you know who's kind of in charge of the
player Advisory Council and helped build this negotiation Tiger Woods.
So Tiger Woods once again playing and toying with Phil
Mickelson here. Why is it twenty twenty to twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (48:59):
No one knows. Tours just making up as it goes.

Speaker 21 (49:01):
But it's interesting they could have said hey, twenty ten
to twenty twenty five and included Dustin Johnson and Sergio
Garcia and Phil Mickelson.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
No.

Speaker 21 (49:09):
Twenty twenty two to twenty five. Very specific for a
reason because of Phil Mickelson in his anti PJA tour stands,
and also he's gone off the rails politically his Twitter
goal to get his Twitter if you want a good laugh,
because he sees on a different planet right now.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
But it's very interesting that.

Speaker 21 (49:24):
The tires shutting him out, Tiger always finding ways to
just kind of just nick Phil Michlelson one last time.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
All right, talk about Brooksy getting back in. How you
feeling about that?

Speaker 21 (49:35):
Hey, I'm I'm glad that have. I hope cam Smith
and Bryson and and Rom come back. I don't I
don't think. I think John Ram and camps With are
pretty happy where they're at right now with Live. But
for Brooks, you know, he's been kind of behind the scenes,
pretty open about not wanting to be on LIB. You know,
all all those guys where their their team uniform is right,

(49:55):
like you watch the Masters, you see Sergio in his
red and yellow what are they the Fireballs uniforms like
a Madden Creative team. Seriously, But Kepka would never wear
his uniform. He always swore his his Nike, his Nike stuff.
So he was never really bought in to Live. I
think he did at the same time, or I think
he did it because it was most amount of money
he could make. He wasn't playing well, his body was

(50:17):
a teer in and he thought his career was going
to end, and then he ends up winning a PGA
Championship at Okill. The other side of this, too is
this past season, Brooks Kopka's ten year contract with Nike ended,
so there's some thing, some thought behind that. Possibly this
lined up and Nike did not want to re sign
with Brooks if he sit and live golf, so that
could have played a big part in it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Two.

Speaker 21 (50:39):
You know, now Brooks can make some more money from
a Nike contract. Now he is forfeiting a lot of
money by going back. I think it's doing eight five
million dollars to a charity of his cause, which is nice.
He's not eligible for FedEx Cup bonus. I mean, he's
won four majors, so he's completely set for life in
terms of money. So and so wouldn't be Cam's Smith

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and Rom and Bryce decide to come back, so Farry.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Guys wind up playing in the majors anyway.

Speaker 21 (51:04):
Yeah, there are you know, uh, you know, Rom obviously
won the Masters, so you know he can play it
all and he's won a major within the past couple
of years, so he's qualified.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Cam Smith same thing.

Speaker 21 (51:12):
He you know, he won the Open Championship and he
can play in the Open Championship for the rest of
his life. So and and Bryson, you know, he's he's
set for the next five years too. So I would
love this those guys back on the tour. But it's
very interesting that the timing of this and also just
the criteria that, you know, because the Hudson's offered former
PJ Tour winner towards a bulldog. You know, a lot

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of people are saying, who he got a five year
band for the PJ Tour for joining Lyff. You know,
why didn't Brooks for Bryson get a five year band?
Maybe philled it. We don't know about it, but it's
interesting the PJ Tour just kind of making it up
as they go along. But Rock comes in and says, hey,
who are the big names we are missing on the tour?
Obviously is Bryson Brooks, John rom and Cam Smith? Is
there a way we can kind of get them back

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into the fold? And Brooks is the first one to
take it, and we'll see the rest of the guys follow.
What's what's the larger strategy here?

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Do they want live to keep existing as a kind
of big bad and just weaken it or is their
goal to eventually absorb all of those players back?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I don't think that's ever.

Speaker 21 (52:08):
We're going to see the combination the merger of PJ
Tour and Live like we once thought we were. The
other note too, is you know, you know Live is
funded by the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund, right, and
what's a big part of you know that money, the
wealth oil? Right now oil is selling at an old
time low. Right, So they're funding this tour. They're they're

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being out drawn in viewership by TG out by the way,
the the golf simulator stuff on the spin that's getting
more fewers than Live.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
All right, it's kind of fun to watch, it is, Yeah,
watch interesting. Interesting.

Speaker 21 (52:41):
So they're putting all this money they're giving out these
big contracts.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Is it really paying off? Is it working? Who knows?

Speaker 21 (52:48):
Right, you know, they may decide to go ahead and
just go ahead and bankrupt the entire thing.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Don't really know.

Speaker 21 (52:54):
But you know, Roy talked about it, you know, last month,
He's like, how much longer can they afford to pay
these guys about getting their return on investment that they
thought they were going to and losing Brooks Koepka is
a big draw. And they still have Bryce in the shambo. Uh,
they still have John Rom they still have camps, so
three of the biggest names in golf. But at this point,
you know, Brooks comes over if they lose Rom or Bryce,

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and then all of a sudden, the PJ Tour U
looks like they're winning this battle. I don't I can
I don't know if I can guarantee, but I know
the PJ Tour will still exist in three years. We'll
live golf exists in three years.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I don't know. Flip a coin. Yeah, you've gone so
soft lately, you really have. Well, how's that? Is this
a management thing now? I mean it's just you know,
you just soften your stand so much. You know you
used to was it? What was it that mister Potter
says in the in Uh, it's a wonderful you once
said you were apt to cocker the world. You know

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that kind of thing. No, I'm just kidding better.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Okay, all right, So proof of Life. He's still here.
He's still around. You know, if you come to basketball
games at Moody, you'll see Cameron because he's up there.
He's engineering force up there. Afterwards, and we got tickets
to Gavoi, right we do?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah? Texas Vanderbilt.

Speaker 21 (54:02):
Hey, Long Gordon's just upset number thirteen Alabama, So come
out for Wednesday. Moody is going to be rocking, and
I know Sean Miller we talked about it today. Really
looking forward to support from Texas fans, So giving away
a lot of tickets this week.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
You're on the zone.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, tenth ranked team in the country and undefeated both
the Vanderbilt men and women still unbeaten.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Wow, thank you, thanks for dropping in.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Okay, we're gonna hear from Sean Miller coming up next
on thirteen under the Zone. Well, I'm thanking Tonya came
and park for joining us. See Dylan Swaying, big big
block there and helped see the Long Worns win over Alabama.
This was Sean Miller after the game, visiting with the
media about the Alabama win.

Speaker 22 (54:45):
I was obviously a big win for us, you know,
getting off to a tough start at Tennessee, which I
think is a very difficult game. And if you followed
us our opening game against Mississippi State, it was a
great game. Really blew a late lead, and sometimes when
you lose that first one at home, it can lead
to some next days, next games, and maybe you're not

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you're not quite off the mat, you know, up up
to the challenge, you're still sticking with that first experience
that didn't go your way. So coming here zero and
two and the respect that we have for Alabama, for
Nate and his team is immense. We knew we were
in for a great challenge and I'm just really proud
of our team that we were able to come in here.
I thought it was an amazing atmosphere crowd, and for

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us to leave with the win, I think it gives
us a real shot of confidence and an understanding of
how hard you have to compete to have a chance
to win in the SEC. Tonight we competed at a
higher level than we have recently.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Okay, all right, So that was one thing that was very,
very big, speaking big, Alabama had a big guy named
Taylor Bowl Bowen, and he was a presidence inside, but
he was also president outside. He had three threes, yeah,
in the game.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
This was one of his best games of the season,
and Nat Oates had been on him hard earlier.

Speaker 10 (56:03):
Well.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
It paid them some dividends, and Sean Miller has asked
about the physicality that he had against the Texas players.

Speaker 22 (56:10):
Taylor Boboen. I mean he had a double double eleven
and ten. You know, you know I don't mean this
in a negative way at all. I just I'm not
as familiar with him obviously as I am.

Speaker 16 (56:23):
R guys.

Speaker 22 (56:23):
You know what I know about Alabama is they've got
a terrific team. They've gone through a lot of injuries.
When they get healthy and have their entire team together,
they'll be like they always are. So for us to
come in here, like I said, and compete and leave
at the hard fought victory is very gratifying. And look,
you work hard, it's important that you can get some joy,

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and you only can get joy through the win.

Speaker 16 (56:47):
So I'm happy for our team.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, And the joy is there because they were able
to hang on. As I mentioned earlier in the program,
Alabama called him twice in the second half, but never
passed him. They missed a couple of back in three
throws that would have put them in front.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Smoked an alley oop too, smoked.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
An alley oop, and then also missed on a three
that would have given them the league.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
When it was eighty six eighty.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Five and he was asked about how his guys were
able to hang On despite those late runs from the
Crisston Tide.

Speaker 22 (57:18):
Yeah, you know, it was a constant theme, you know,
just you felt like, oh, here comes that run. And
you know, with the way they play offense, they can
score so quickly and they can also use the three
point shot to make it a quick six nothing, nine
nothing run that I think when you play them, that's
part of being able to get to the end, which

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is when those runs happen, and they'll happen throughout the game,
you really, in fact have to just stay with it
and not break. But you know, I thought we got
to the foul line in the second half and when
we really needed a couple baskets, we were able to
get them. Obviously, Jordan Pope had a really big night
tonight and in a couple of our best moments this

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and Jordan has really been on top, so it was
great to see him as a senior rise to the
challenge and have a big night.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
All right, And speaking of backward guys, when you think
of Filon and Holloway and the challenge they present, and
they got them by the way they got their season averages.
You know, they still wound up with their season averages.
Filon got twenty one points. Holloway got eighteen. But they
seem to be spread out and when Alabama went to

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them at its most critical junctures, Texas was able to
get a stop.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
And he was asked about the challenge of defending those
two men.

Speaker 16 (58:35):
Those guys are really good.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
You know.

Speaker 22 (58:38):
I'm I'm familiar with Aiden Holloway, you know, just watched
them when I was at Xavier. You know, he came
up and worked out with one of our players and
I watched him shoot one time and I couldn't believe it.
I never saw a guy shoot like him, So his
skill level's crazy. Filon Obviously, if he's not the best

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player in our league, is certainly one of them. So
you had those two guys together, they really have a
unique backcourt because on either on a given night, either
those guys.

Speaker 16 (59:08):
Can go for a big number.

Speaker 22 (59:10):
And that's something that I thought overall on our end,
we defended about as well as we could. We were
far from perfect, but I thought our defense rose to
a higher threshold here tonight.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Okay, So there it is. We got to talk back questions,
So let's get to that. Hey, Craig Sarka is taking
a lot of heat for losing so many players. Is
that's something we should be concerned about or what do
you think?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Well, if they hadn't had the huge weekend they had
over the weekend with the portal, I would say, you know,
they're probably there would probably be more complaints. But when
they turn around and get Cam Coleman the number one
targeted wide receiver, two quality running backs, I think Hollywood
Smothers would be really good coming in from Ency State,
but the two running backs they got, linebacker, tight end,

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offensive line, I think it kind of quieted. A lot
of people were grumbling about it. They ended up having
a huge weekend in the portal. You're always gonna lose
some players, no doubt, and Christian Clark left after seeing
the two who were coming in, and that was to
kind of be expected. You're gonna have some attrition, but
if you have the addition before the attrition, it makes

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a big difference.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I said, we're gonna giveway tickets Vanuil. I'm gonna make
this real easy right now because we've got a way
for you to win tickets for the game with Texas
A and M coming up. We'll talk about that in
the four o'clock. However, but right now, this is how
this works. You don't even have to use the talk back.
The first ten people to text us on the text
line because we see your cell numbers on there. So
the first ten people to text us on the text

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line and say you'd like a pair of tickets for
the Vanderbilt game.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
The reason why I picked ten.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
They're playing the tenth ranked team in the country, undefeated,
Vanderbilt wins. It's an eight o'clock game. Got time to
get to the get to the arena if you're working.
So the first ten people to text us on the
text line, you text the word texas, followed by I
always say your question in comment. In this case, I
want Vanderbilt tickets. That's all you have to do is

(01:01:15):
tell us you want two tickets of the game, and
you text that to eight one five three zero. So
just text the word texas and then say yes, I'd
like a pair of tickets to the Vanderbilt game to
eight one five three zero. The first ten people to
do it will get a pair of tickets. Standard messaging
and data rates may apply. We'll talk Pro football next

(01:01:37):
on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Out of the shotgun Stafford looking down the middle, launching.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
To the right side.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Oh reaching proud of the pilot.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Parkinson hauls it end oh Man call me part and.

Speaker 23 (01:01:53):
Said, using all of that six foot seven frame right
at the fringe of the field to bring it in.
It's Rams touchdown thirty eight seconds to go to take
the lead around three.

Speaker 12 (01:02:06):
Von marrig last chance Young, It's drops, then it's over.
Jimmy Horns rupshit and the Rams survives.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
First and ten.

Speaker 16 (01:02:20):
Caleb and the gun swift to his left.

Speaker 17 (01:02:22):
Burden and a bunch of sets of the left side
numbers snap.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Back for Man rush Caleb with a double both drunk
out up side like DJ brds on.

Speaker 19 (01:02:29):
The five head down touchdown touchdown bears.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
They've taken the lead on the Packers.

Speaker 19 (01:02:36):
When won thirty three to go twenty five yards the
same connection week sixteen, I walk up win this connection
a three pointly.

Speaker 24 (01:02:47):
Wow Wow say it against wow snap to look shop
to snap, picks it up, keep them in the pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Look circles back now rolling right, moving up bayne Na
heat still moving up now.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
He throws to the end zone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
And his throw for the interception turn but it doesn't matter.
The game is over.

Speaker 24 (01:03:10):
Game is over.

Speaker 19 (01:03:11):
The Bears a cup on the Lea Hinde and they
beat the green Backpackers thirty one twenty seven. All the
ghosts of fifteen seasons has been released in this cold
January night on the Bears five coaches after they won
their last playoff game, Ben Johnson brought belief to that

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building at Hellas Hall.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
He'll line it up, He'll sneak it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
He gets a push and they push continues inside.

Speaker 19 (01:03:39):
The five Alan all the way down to the goal line.

Speaker 10 (01:03:41):
It's a much down.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
It's a quarterback sneak and Gilliam just pushed him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
All the way in to get Buffalo the lead. A
push for six.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
After reviewing the play, the runner with down four of
the goal on Alan under seven gets the snap.

Speaker 12 (01:04:01):
The push from Gilliam into the in zone into.

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Buffalo touchdown, and the Buffalo Bills come into Jacksonville and
take it away from the Jaguars twenty seven to twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Four the final score.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
Buffalo advances in the NFL Playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
A thriller in Jacksonville. In the wildcard round, monch a
Man is born to the left, shut up. Purdy takes
the snap, looking party steps up. Purdy delivers and someone
can touchs down the caffrey.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Forty nine Ers go in front.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
San Francisco with a major answer, and the crowd goes
quiet here in Philadelphia. Forty three seconds left, San Francisco
leads at twenty three to nineteen. Hurts steps up, Hurts
fires over the middle into a crowd. It's broken up.
Forty nine Ers come up big incomplete. Kendrick gets a

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piece and the Eagles turn it over.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
On downs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
San Francisco takes over and they're forty seconds away from
a victory. The defending Super Bowl champions come up empty
on fourth down.

Speaker 25 (01:05:13):
He is Hunter Henry coming in motion to the near side.
Off the play, Bake May drops back to pass, Henley
fell down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
May rose to his left.

Speaker 25 (01:05:21):
He's got hand ring inside the live eight to the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Just inside the left pylon.

Speaker 25 (01:05:27):
Touchdown, Patriots twenty eight yards.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
And at this place is going crazy.

Speaker 25 (01:05:35):
With nine forty five to play in the fourth quarter,
it's fifteen to grave Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Drake May takes an eight.

Speaker 25 (01:05:43):
The final seconds will tick off the clock and the
New England Patriots with a sixteen to three victory, we'll
advance to the Divisional rounds of the playoffs. They will
host the winner of the Steelers and the Texan's game.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Tomorrow nights, which becomes Tonight Steelers from Texans, and you
can hear the game here beginning at six forty five
on thirteen under the zone. That was Tom McCarthy, right,
it was on west Wood one, on Westwood one in
thanks Westwood One, and also Joe Davis from Fox in
that montage courtesy of them as well. I'm trying to

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remember the Rams Panthers game. Was Jason Benedi that it was.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
We had Kevin Coogler on the call for Bill's Jags.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
What about Bears Packers?

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Bears Packers? Was the Chicago Bears radio team and I'm
Johnny Aack, Yes, Jeff John Jeff Johnny Aacky the Bears
radio team, okay, decided to use their hometown call. You
could hear the EMOTIONA.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then the forty nine Ers Eagles
was Iron Eagle, wasn't it that?

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
It was?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Okay, all right, Mike says, let's go Texans, by the way,
oh yeah, watching us on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Oh okay, all right, well let's hope for the best
on that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
You'll hear the game tonight on thirteen hundred n By
the way, we do have ten winners for tickets who
immediately respond to one of those two pair of tickets.
So the ten of you who have texted it into
us first, you'll get a pair of tickets for Wednesday

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nights game against Vanderbilt. Now we'll give away more tomorrow
and in the four o'clock hour, we're going to tell
you how you can get tickets for the Saturday matchup
with Texas A and M with the Aggies with the
Cotton Holdings Loan Stars Showdown rivalry series. So we'll give
away some tickets for that and we'll tell you how
you can win those tomorrow, so we're in the four

(01:07:46):
o'clock hour, will tell you how you can win those.
But tomorrow we'll give away more tickets for the Vanderbilt game.
And so for those of you who have already texted
end we've got your names where we've got your numbers anyway,
and we'll get in touch with you about that. Okay,
back to the NFL, A couple of topics. First of all,
the game tonight Texans and Steelers. Remember the Texans were

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zero to three after losing to the Jaguars. That was
back in late September, and they still weren't completely out
of it. They were two and five, and then they
have started from Week four. They went twelve and two
after that, tied for the third most wins in the

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league during that span and owning the longest active wins
streak nine in a row, which tied the franchise record
from twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
So they're in that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
The Steelers, by the way, Aaron Rodgers and the other say, yeah,
we know about the playoff failures and success in that.
We don't care about that. We're here to win tonight.
And I think this is going to be a good
matchup this sevening.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Like I've said, I think it comes down to just
a couple of plays. It's hard to see either team
being able to pull away. Now, the Steelers defense a
lot like the Bears in that they got to force
turnovers to have success. They have the highest percentage of
any team in the league, highest percentage of their points

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came off turnovers. Without that, the underlying numbers on the
offense and even the Steelers defense are merely average. So
if the Texans can take care of the football, I
really like their chances, but sometimes all it can take
is one big turnover that building gets rocking. You're relying
on kicks that have saved the Texans many times this year.

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Those are not as easy at Akroscher Stadium. So this one,
I think that the first fifteen to twenty minutes and
I'm not just talking about the game clock, I'm talking
about real time. First fifteen to twenty minutes can tell
us a lot. Can the Texans take the crowd out
of it or do things get a little squarely?

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, I think that it's important. So the winner is
going to get New England. Patriots defense looked really good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Lad last night.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Offense good enough to get it done, and Drake May
continues to have a very fine season. But I do
think that their defense is carrying the day for them.
And I could just see a very cold Sunday game
with the Patriots taking on the winner of this game
up in Foxborough.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Look, there's a saying in the postseason that I've heard
from several experts, and that is that bad offensive lines
don't travel.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
We saw that with the Chargers last night. They really
really struggled to protect Justin Herbert. I think he was
sacked six times in the game. It was a tough
runout for LA with both of their tackles being hurt
earlier this season and Justin Herbert playing through a bad
head you called it Amari, and Hampton was barely involved
at all in the game last night. Had he been healthy,
I feel like Jim Harball would have featured him a

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lot more. Offensive coordinator Greg Roman, they had no answers
for the Patriot pass rush, and that's a Patriot pass
rush that was pretty average during the season. So the
Chargers really new to get healthy on the offensive line
to have any chance of a deeper run next year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
So the divisional round schedule set next Saturday, Bills and
Broncos in the AFC, forty nine Ers and Seahawks in
the NFC. And they have not decided which game will
be first and which game will be second.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Shouldn't it just be whichever team can have the least
rest disparity.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Well, that's definitely going to be the case with the
Patriots against the Steelers and Texans winner, because that's definitely
going to be Sunday, And if I were betting, I
would say that might be the night game. I say
that NBC just you know, it's says network to be
determined on that too. So I think give me C

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would rather not have the Patriots again, I think they'd
rather have Rams Bears. So if they get the Sunday
night game, it could be Mike. We just saw Drake Men.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, say.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
It could be it could be Rams Bears instead, but
that's going to be on stay. That surprised me because
both of those teams played Saturday, right and they're playing Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
I would have thought that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
So the Texans Steelers winner is getting a little bit
hosed here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Well, no, that's the latest you can be is Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
They're playing Sunday, the Texan Steelers winners playing the Patriots
on Sunday. The one that's getting hosed a little bit
is are the Bills and forty nine Ers. They both
played Sunday and they have to come back and play
on the day's less rests on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
That's right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Same thing with Steelers Texans when they're playing on the
day's less right, but they're nothing you can do about that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Sunday night is as late as it can go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
Even bigger deal for the forty nine Ers who play
a rested Seahawks team.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Yeah, I do think this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
If Pittsburgh wins, I'll bet you NBC ops for that,
and wants that game because they're still looking for that
last game for Aaron Rodgers. They keep talking about that
could be his last game ever, could be his last
game ever, so they can if the Texans win, I
don't think they want Texans Patriots. I think they'd rather
have Rams Bears if it happens that way.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
I want to see Texans Patriots personally, Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
See you mean in the Sunday night window or just
in general, just.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
In general, that New England offense and that Houston defense.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, yeah, it'd be fun. I hope we see that
as well. Matthew Stafford is good to go spring finger
there in that end, but they say he's gonna be okay,
gonna be cold. Yeah yeah, in Chicago. So anyway, they'll
they'll announce after tonight the rotation of what time those
kickoffs will be. We'll be back to wrap up our
number two and thirteen under the zone. And there's one

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scratch in the win column for Texas in conference play,
so that's good. They bounce back and and get that.
Now they get ready to host an undefeated team, tenth
ranked team in the country, the Vanderbilt Commodorees on Wednesday
night sixteen and oh are the Commodoores. They're actually number

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eight in the coaches poll, but they're number ten in
the in the AP and they're three and oh in
the SEC. That's an eight o'clock game. If you're interested
in knowing the television outlet, it's ESPN two, and we
encourage you, as always hate that's great tune in for that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
We'd love to have you listen to us as well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
People have learned over time, As I've joked, I said,
if my wife can do this, about anybody can do it.
She's she's actually really adept in pretty sharpened things and
and learned how to how to sync it up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
But you know, I had a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
People said, boy, I sure hate that the that the
TV is behind you, guys. I said, it's very easy.
It is very easy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
I'm the king.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
I was in college, the King of the sink. Were
you really whether it was you guys, whether it was
the Nationals radio with the World Series, Yeah, yeah, I was.
I was sinking it up. It was blowing my friend's minds.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
It's not that hard in most cases. In most cases
the TV will be ahead of our radio call because
it goes through satellite and all that other stuff. So
the easiest thing to do is you just hit pause
on your live TV.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
That's all you have to do.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Hit your pause button, freeze the picture and allow the
radio to catch up to it, and then unpause it.
And then it seems I think it's a little bit
off here and there, and you have to rethink it,
you know, from time to time. But most folks say
they like doing it that way, and so it works
out really well. So we always invite you to do
that if you want to do that. So it's eight
o'clock on Wednesday night, it gets an undefeated Vanderbilt team.

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We gave away ten pairs of tickets to that game
last hour of the show, and we'll give away more
pairs of tickets TOMR to that. But here I'm here
to tell you this is a week for getting some tickets.
Students are back in this week, but still an opportunity
for you to get tickets. How about tickets for the

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matchup with Texas A and M. The Aggies are playing
well and they come off with winnever Oklahoma over the
weekend bucket ball.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Here's the opportunity, your chance to win a pair of
tickets to see the Longhorns against Texas A and M
Saturday afternoon. What does this say December sixteenth, twenty twenty five.
It's not December sixteen.

Speaker 25 (01:16:32):
No, it is not.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
By the way, Ike says, I'm not the only king
of the sink. Here, he says, God gave me a
gift of the sink gift.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
There you go, love to have the sink gift. Okay,
So anyway, it's this coming Saturday. It is not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
It's not on the email it said December sixteenth, but
it had everything else correct about it. It'll be Saturday
the seventeenth, and so oh, here it is a chance
to win a pair of tickets to see the long
Ones against Texas A and M. So this is and

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this is when.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
The way we do most of our contesting is that
we give it away through our talkback microphone, the talkback feature.
So what you do is you simply download the iHeartRadio
app if you haven't already done so, to your smartphones,
free and really easy to do. Once you download the
iHeartRadio app. Then you do a search in your little

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magnifying glass search icon or your search bar. You search
AM thirteen under the zone. It'll pop right up. And
then when it pops up, you'll see a red button
with a white microphone inside.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
That's the key one. The red button with a white microhone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
You just tap that button and it activates the talkback
microphone the talkback system. Then you leave us a voice
message up to thirty seconds. We'll be on thirty. But
you don't even need to go be on ThReD. Just hey,
i'd like heard on the Craigway Show. You guys are
giving away tickets to Texas A and M. I'd like
two tickets to place, and then your name will go

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into the drawing and you'll have an opportunity. There's a
keyword you have to miss. Today's keyword, by the way,
happens to be moody. But the one you want, the
keyword tomorrow is what you're gonna want. And we will
tell you tomorrow what that keyword is, so you can
enter right now if you want. For Saturday, today's keyword

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is moody. There'll be a different keyword tomorrow. This is
for Saturday's game with Texas A and M. We will
also give away more tickets for Wednesday's Vanderbilt game tomorrow
because we're in the giving mood, so we will do that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
So that's that's how you do it, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
The College Football Playoff National Championship Game comes up on
one week from the night Monday night. Throughout the course
of the week, we'll kind of get you ready for that.
Talk about that to hear from the head coaches tomorrow.
From that as Indiana and Miami get ready. Place is
a really unique matchup. Miami's playing to try to win

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its first national title since the two thousand and one season.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
It's been twenty five years or twenty four years. And
of course they won that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
In two thousand and one, and then in two thousand
and two they got back to the championship game and
in the championship game against Ohio State, that's when they lost,
so first time since two thousand and two. They played
that controversial ending in the Fiesta Bowl. And that's why
folks say, hey, they got a measure of revenge. I

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don't know for revenge of the wort words is Vince Cully,
the Great Dodger broadcaster used to say, they balanced the books,
and that's a way to balance the books.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
They're off of that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Bears get a little closer to balancing the books against
Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Yeah, yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
They because they won after what was in fourteen years
that the Packers are fifteen years that the Packers had
won in twenty ten when they went on and won
the Super Bowl. That beat the Bears in the NFC
championship game that year twenty ten, pretty sure, and the
Bears beat him for the first time since then.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
The Bears beat him in in.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
A Western Division playoff game back in nineteen forty one
when there was just the Eastern Division in the Western Division,
and they took the two division winners. Washington had already
won the East and was waiting on the winner, and
Green Bay and Chicago tied in the West, and the
Bears won that playoff game to go to the championship

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that year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Actually it was the Giants who was waiting on.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
The Bears won that and they played that championship game
like six days after Pearl Harbor. Everybody knew, you know,
the world was about to change, gonna be a lot different.
But they played that championship game. The Bears beat the
Giants to win that, but they had to beat Green
Bay in a playoff game, which they did first the

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prior week and now and then of course, like I said,
I think it was twenty ten they played Packers won
the NFC championship.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
There they did. They went on to dominate the decade.
Seventeen wins for green Bay, four for Chicago in the
twenty tens.

Speaker 10 (01:21:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Yeah, but that's the last time they met in the
postseason prior to Saturday, and the Bears got that win
a race an eighteen point deficit, largest deficit in Bears playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
History to erase, and they did and won it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
So now the Bears host the Rams, and that'll be
on Sunday, either Sunday afternoon or Sunday night. The Rams
survived the scare from the Carolina Pan. Looked like the
Rams were just going to dominate in the first half.
I got up two touchdowns pretty quickly, but certain things
turned football games. A turnover can change things, or a

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lost momentum due to going forward on fourth down and
not getting it. The Bears had driven, the Panthers had
driven down the field and scored. Rams committed some dumb
penalties along the way, and the Panthers got in. Then
the Rams came right back down and got a field
goal and got up seventeen to seven. They stopped the
Panthers they were driving late in the half and they

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faced a fourth and free. I think it was and
I'm sometimes I'm a little more concerned by nature. And
I was getting ready to walk out of the hotel
room and head over to the arena. I've been watching
the game of the hotel room. I was getting ready
to head for Coleman Colisseum there in Tuscaloosa, and I'm thinking,
take the points, take the points, twenty to seven, take
the points. No, yeah, And by the way, I think

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it's silly, you know ESPN or Fox? Yeah, right, yeah,
And they went for it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
They didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
I liked the decision.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Did you like the play? Call the decision?

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
I don't know enough about football to know if I
like to play goll because my opinion is tempted. It
didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
It didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
And not only that, the Panthers strove right down the
field and scored a touchdown before the half was done.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
So now it's seventeen fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
All the momentum change that point, the Rams got the
kick off start second half, had to punt.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Panthers come down, they kick a field goal. Now it's tied.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Rams do come down and get another field goal or
up twenty seventeen in the fourth quarter, But they allowed
themselves to get stopped.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
They didn't get it in it and then they gave it.
Then the thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Really hurt well, first of all, they gave up another
drive for a touchdown. Then Matthew Stafford brought him back
down the field. They got a touchdown. They were up
twenty seven to twenty four. The Bears, I mean, the
Panthers get stopped. The Rams have it back. I'm thinking
two first downs, this game's over. They don't pick up one,
and they get the punt block. Special teams have been

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a problem for LA this season. So the Panthers blocked
the punt. They end up turning in a short field touchdown,
and now they're up and they leave it to Stafford
to drive them down the field and get the winning touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
On that catch.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
You heard Jason Beneddi describe it a really good throw,
only be in one spot that Stafford threw it, and
an even better catch by Kolbe Parkinson. So they survived,
and so now they move on and they play the Bears.
So that's one of the divisional playoffs. The other divisional
playoff will be San Francisco, who since twenty nineteen has

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made the postseason I think he said five out of
six years and has never lost at the wild card round.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
And so now they'll play up in Seattle. The Eagles.
This was a number I never heard before, and it
was kind of an ignominious number. The Eagles became the
fourth team in playoff history to be a fourth defending

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Super Bowl champion in the last ten years not to
reach the divisional round, either by not making the playoffs
entirely or by losing the wildcard round. Four times that's
happened in the last ten years, a defending Super Bowl
champion does not reach the divisional round of the playoffs,
either losing the wildcard or missed the playoffs entirely, which

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I thought was a pretty interesting number.

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
How many of those six are the Chiefs Two of
those right, because they won the Super Bowl. They had
the five straight right right years of reaching the AFC
Championship game, right, So it couldn't have been them, so
if you take the Chiefs out of it, it's even
more right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Exactly one of them was the Eagles the last time
when they had won, So yeah, first.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Place schedules are difficult playing those extra games.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
By way, I'll tell you who. The other one was
the Rams after they won because they had all the
injuries the next.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Year, and yeah, that was the reboot season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yep. Absolutely all right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Up next, uh, we're gonna hear from Longhorn's head coach
Sean Miller on a pretty interesting topic that came out
of Saturday Nights game.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
We'll get to that next year on thirteen under the
zone can always summer Billy Joel there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
And see he has a lot of good cuts that
are i guess nowadays what's described as deep cuts or
deep tracks. In other words, most of the time when
somebody is deep cuts or deep tracks, this is the
song that wasn't that good or was never really a hit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
But he's he's got he's got some tunes that were good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Songs and just you know, as he says in piano,
uh a piano not be in in uh the entertainer, Uh,
it is a great song, but they say it ran
too long. If you want to be a hit, you
got to cut it down to three to zho five.

Speaker 16 (01:27:07):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Yeah, that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
So we get some sort of line like that in
every one of these new music biopicks.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Yeah, yeah, there's some of that there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
I mean, listen, the one who railed most vociferously raged
against the machine more than anybody else in the music
industry that I can think of, it was the late
Tom Petty. He went at it hard in terms of
publishing rights and recording rights and things like that. But
they've all had their scrapes within their run ends, including

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Billy Joel. We continue here on this Mounday afternoon on
thirteen hunderd the Zone, speaking of scrapes and run ends.
If you were watching the game or even listening to
our broadcast on Saturday night, what you saw.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
What you heard was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
A huge proliferation of stoppages in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
And it had to do primarily not entirely because there
were a couple from the Texas side, but primarily it
came from Natoates, the Alabama coach. And there's a new
rule in college basketball. There's a rule of the adjustment
for challenges and appeals. Everybody thought everything was a challenge,

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but apparently not, because he started appealing things in the
second happening.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
You said you had some thoughts on this, Well, Jimmy
Diyke had some thoughts on it too. That is Number one.
We need to tell the arena what's being appealed. That's
a lot of waiting around that you like.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
They do with the umpires in Major League Baseball or NFL.
That's that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
So that was number one. Number two, how are these unlimited?
How do we not see this loophole coming?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Well, this is a segment from Long Worn Weekly with
Sean Miller. Will the show will air tomorrow night in
its entirety from seven to eight. We have some great
conversation turning it, talking about his players and the hard
lessons and things like that. Adam Cohen, his assistant, coaches
on with us for a couple of segments. It's good stuff.

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But this was one segment when what happened on Saturday
night happened. I got to think about it, and I thought,
we've got a show next week. I'm going to ask
him specifically because I thought I had a pretty good
handle on it, understanding it, and it did except for
one wrinkle that I didn't know about as well, and
Sean Miller says they were a little unaware of some

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of all this. So here's our conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
This is going to be part of the show that
airs tomorrow, but here's the conversation they had just earlier
today when we were recording the show with Sean Miller
talking about appeals versus challenges and what's legal and was
it isn't what you can do, and also how it

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unfolded during this game when it seemed like Nate Oates
every time Texas got a rebound was a piece feeling
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Here's here's the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
I wanted to get your thoughts on something as unique
as exhilarating as the win over Alabama was.

Speaker 10 (01:30:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
I've gotten a lot of uh text and and and
questions from fans, and I'm sure you you were besieged
by this as well, and that was let's just call
it a unique situation with all of the appeals and
the challenges that happened in the game, and coach Oates
was asking for appeals pretty regularly. I know you asked
for one as well, and I want to give you

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an opportunity to UH to spell out for fans the
differences in the two UH and and what it can
cost you if you don't win what you're doing. But
but the mindset of what you're appealing or challenging in
the moment.

Speaker 22 (01:30:44):
Yeah, So I'll start with the challenge part, which is new.
You know if you if you see it, every coaching
staff has some form of a of an iPad right
behind the bench that's following a live action which you
can see right away the replays of plays that have happened.
But there's only a number of things that are challengeable,

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right So a play at the rim, goaltending which had
to be called. So if you see like a goaltend
but there was no whistle, you can't challenge it. But
if there was a whistle, you can challenge yes or
no in and around the arc on a block charge
was the ball or a player's foot out of bounds

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in bounds out of bounds? And then when you get
to the final couple of minutes, any like play at
the rim, you don't really need to use your challenge
because it's they're going to review it under two minutes.
The one that you still have in your pocket is
if the ball or players out of bounds and you

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think that it was called incorrectly, and it has to
be a whistle. It has to be a call. Can't
be live action. He stepped out of bounds, there was
no call, go back and review it. It has to
be called there. If you miss in terms of your challenge,
you're wrong. You lose the time out, which is really important.
You know, for us, I think it's almost impossible to

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challenge something in the first half because you know, even
if you win it fine, every play matters. But getting
towards the end of the game, you know, you just
you have to be careful that you don't run out
of them. And then the time out part of things
like that, that's really important. If you get it wrong,
you lose a time out, so and you lose a challenge,

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and a challenge that's correct, and you're reliant on your
staff because you're coaching the game and it has to
happen quickly. What happened in the Alabama game is something
I really hadn't experienced. And there's this whole new subset
which you use the word appeal, and those are for
like hook and hold or flagrant pushing down. And what's

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different about that, if you think about it, that triggers
a completely different deal in a game, and that the
whistle didn't have to be blown for you to have
an appeal, right, so you could see something in the
backcourt a hook and hold something that you saw that

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was not called, and the action keeps going.

Speaker 16 (01:33:22):
And again, what I learned last night.

Speaker 22 (01:33:26):
Was you can get the peel and you have like
two dead balls, so a basket counts as like a
dead ball, and then you go back and then there's
a foul. Once the dead ball happened and made basket,
and then a foul, you can do the appeal. But
at that point, because there's two dead balls.

Speaker 16 (01:33:46):
Post the appeal, it doesn't matter if you're outside the windows.

Speaker 22 (01:33:49):
Yeah, if the same thing happens and the ball goes
up and down, up and down, no shots are made,
and then all of a sudden there's one dead ball,
ball goes out of bounds or a basket, and you
you appeal. Then when they review it and they have
to go review it, then in fact, it doesn't matter. Right,
It didn't matter if it's six trips ago, it's just

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a matter. Was there a stoppagen play a dead bar
or basket scored. Then if they were right, they go
back in time and say, yeah, technical foul, foul and
the repercussions of it. It was a major play in
the first half of Swaying because there was no whistle
action went it fell inside of the two dead balls.

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It became a third foul on him plus two free throws.
The only point on it is now you've opened up
this new Pandora's box where you know you But so
the final part of it is if you're wrong on
an appeal no different than a challenge, you lose the
time out. However many times they did the appeal last night,

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several they in fact did lose a timeout on one
of the things that they appealed.

Speaker 16 (01:34:58):
But now you have this whole new d it's challenge
and appeal.

Speaker 22 (01:35:02):
You know, I don't know if in the spirit of
the rule that the appeal part of things is supposed
to be like done from the beginning of the game
all the way through the game on plays like a
physical blockout, I guess you'd have to be right. But
what it's dangerous about it is I look at a
hook and hold for examples as a dirty play as

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a play that potentially could injure the opposing player, and
there's no point, there's no purpose in that to have
that part of the game. I understand the appeal there,
but on a blockout of a free throw, there's a
lot going on. Okay, guys, arms are here going over
your head, like for example, you know, sometimes a guy
gets hit in the head and it wasn't done in

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a flagrant manner. I think it really puts the three
officials in a tough position to actually have to look
at that in slow motion and review it, because by
the letter of the law, they could say, yeah, I
got hit in the head. Well, I mean, if you
really look at it, how physical this is that's happening
throughout the game forty minutes in the spirit of the game.
That's not what I believe the appeals made to be.

(01:36:05):
I don't know where we go from here. Again, we've
played sixteen games. It's really the first time we've dealt
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Right yeah, yeah, And like we said, you lose a challenge.
If you challenge it an appeal, they can continue to appeal, right,
I mean, until you lose time out.

Speaker 22 (01:36:20):
That's the that's the other part you can you can
appeal ten times. Again, what eventually happens is if you
lose one, and I think you will if you're at
that level, you lose a time out, and that in
fact up in Alabama.

Speaker 16 (01:36:33):
But look, that's the rule. They're in essence following the rule.

Speaker 22 (01:36:37):
I don't know if in the spirit of it that's
how it was put together, but it made the game
very choppy last night, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
A yeah, So hopefully that gives you a little more
clarity on the deal. Appeals can.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Theoretically go on indefinitely until you run out of timeouts,
because if you lose an appeal, you lose a timeout
as well. That's the one part I didn't know. I
thought it was more like just asking the umpire when
they could ask the umpire for a review like in
the eighth that he'd get of that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
But you can lose.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Timeouts if you lose the appeal as well. But you
have an unlimited amount of appeals, And basically what you're
doing is you're practically just renaming it. You're almost challenging
the same type thing, even though challenges supposedly they have
the definition of that category of three specific types of
things that you can challenge. Okay, So if there's something
like he said, you think there's a hook at older

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whether and say, hey, I'd like to appeal that. So
it just seemed like every time a long worm was
going to the free throw line, Natoas was trying to
appeal something. And when we had the first time out,
it was just under sixteen minutes. I thought it was
called at first, then I thought it was just the

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regular under sixteen time out turn out. It was neither,
there's a timeout for an appeal. Then on the next
head ball you had the under sixteen, and then shortly
after that Texas took a timeout. So she had three
full timeouts happen within the course of about nine clock minutes,
not scoreboard clock, regular time limits. So that's another reason why.

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That's how you turn a two hour basketball game into
a twenty a half hour game. That plus three minute
timeouts from the ESPN family of networks.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
You know, the Spurs game started at the same time
that night and finished first. Yeah, they played forty eight
minutes in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Yeah, it is ridiculous. It just was ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
Right when we finished recording the show, Sewan's phone rang
and he goes, it's the sec because boy, he goes,
am I ready for them?

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
You would have to talk to them about it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Yeah, we're gonna hear from Vic Shay for next on
thirteen hundred the Zone, the late great Tom Petty from Gainesville,
Florien at the and heck of an artist both solo
and then in the travel Woolberry's as well. Let's hear
from Texas women's head coach Mick Schaefer log Worns just

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never got in a good offensive rhythm yesterday. They led
for actually the majority of the first half by small
amounts LS who had a late surge by the end,
and they have took a five point lead, pushed it
out of a thirteen point lead in the fourth court.
Texas went on a thirteen to three run, cut it
down to three, but could never get over the hump.

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The inability to be able to make crucial shots at
the right time really hurt them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
Well, let's hear from Vic first of all, his opening
thoughts on this.

Speaker 10 (01:39:38):
Yeah, First, just congratulations to LSU. I thought they were
really tough today. I thought they played much harder than
we did, and I thought they were way tougher than
we were today, by far, worst game of the year.
And you know, we'll give them credit for that. We
did not defend well, we didn't. We weren't very interested

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in Garden. But our offensive execution the first half was
really really poor, and even into the third quarter, and
then in the fourth quarter you go for twenty six.
You almost double what you did the previous three quarters
in each quarter. So really disappointed in our in our offense,
really disappointed in our offensive execution. You know, Kylo was

(01:40:25):
six for nine and that's our guards can't get to
the ball more than nine times, you know, and that
that's just really disappointing. I thought we were really selfish today.
We haven't been that way all year, but I thought
we were. We had some real selfish play. And you know,
in a game like that, y'all, really is a one
possession game. And we can go down the list every

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player that played every possession, there was just a whether
you got pinned on the backside, or you don't play
a shot clock out, or you don't block out on
a rebound, or you don't get back in transition, or
you don't get back and you're not aware of where
you are and transition. I mean, it's just the game
is that way, it's that close. And so again, obviously

(01:41:06):
I didn't have my team ready to play today. I'll
take the blame for it, but certainly our worst game
of the year. And still, you know, it's five point
game and probably the one possession game for the most part.
But nineteen offensive rebounds that we gave up got out
rebounded nine. I think that's that's the telltale sign of

(01:41:31):
the toughness piece. And then the seventeen turnovers. You know,
we just you can't kick the ball around like we
did today on the road. You know, it's it's and
that was the first thing on the board, was taking
care of the ball. So disappointed for sure. So we
got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Yeah, And one of the questions asked him about Rory
Harmon his decision to keep Rory on the bench in
the fourth quarter and go with Brehanna Preston.

Speaker 10 (01:42:01):
Well, I mean we played better, didn't we. Yeah, And
we scored twenty six points, so you know, at some
points you got to you know, I felt like we
were getting some things done and uh, playing better, executing better,
and and uh, Rory wasn't just playing real well. So
we just I just decided to do that and give
Brian the opportunity, and uh, I think she took advantage

(01:42:24):
of it. So you know, it wasn't Rory's best day,
one for seven and and we were really having you know,
I was really disappointed again offensively with what we were
doing eleven fourteen, fourteen, and it you know, unfortunately, when
you're the point guard, you got to wear that a
little bit, and I have to wear it with her
as the head coach. So I thought Brie was playing,

(01:42:49):
you know, playing good. So we left went with Bri now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Vic shape for later on in news conference, continue to
hammer home the point that this is on him and
on his team to get better and that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
They didn't play well.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
That said, he also had some thoughts on this SEC
league schedule that has Texas playing LSU and South Carolina
back to back, both on the road.

Speaker 10 (01:43:14):
Yeah, I mean two weeks ago this team was that
we just played was number five in the country, and
you know, it's a bear, you know, and you know,
they obviously have a vendetta against Texas because not only
have we started in the league and I get to
play South Carolina twice last year. This year I get
LSU twice, but I have to go of sixteen games.

(01:43:37):
There's sixteen games this year, and I have to play
South Carolina on the road this year as well as LSU.
I get them back to back in the same week
and make that make sense. So the league is hard
enough as it is, but then to bless me in
my group with that, like it really has a stints
to it. And the common denominator is LU in South

(01:44:01):
Carolina both played Georgia before they played me in South
Carolina was at home today. So you know, it's I'm disappointed.
You know, I said that yesterday. I said it to TV.
I'm really disappointed in the league for putting our kids
in that position. But we play whoever's in front of us.
And the answer to your question is, you're right, it's

(01:44:21):
a bear. I mean, it's just one monster after another.
It's what Triple A Baseball is to the major leagues.
It's how I look at it. And you know, you've
got Hall of Fame coaches, you've got future WNBA players,
and so it's it's hard, but that's what we all
sign up for. That's what I signed up for. I
obviously came from Misissippi State, so I was pretty used

(01:44:43):
to the league and understood what it was. And then
when you go to Texas, you not only are signing
up for the SEC, but you've got Texas on your
chest and everybody wants a piece of you. So you
know it's it is what it is. But you know,
I think again, there's there's some things right now that
bothered me in regards to, like I said, the schedule,

(01:45:06):
But they don't call me and ask me about it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
I just get it.

Speaker 10 (01:45:09):
Unless somebody from my university stands up and says, hey,
what the hell is going on here? Nobody does anything.
And that's my frustration is that I waited. I've seen it.
It's been on my radar for since spring meetings. When
the schedule came out, I saw it, and I waited
for people that I thought should have stood up and
said something. Nothing was said. I mean, we got people

(01:45:31):
in the conference office that are just in charge of
women's basketball. You'll want to tell me that anybody else
in our league gets both these teams back to back
on the road because they were both preseason number one,
number two, number three, both of them, they're preseason number
three one, two or three, So but nobody did. I
saw it, but I was hoping that somebody would but

(01:45:54):
didn't get done. So this is what we got. It's fine.
I told our kids all the time. There's not anybody.
It's us against the world a lot of times, and
we have to embrace that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Then he was asked, can you clarify if there's someone
specifically that you're not happy with over this scheduling.

Speaker 10 (01:46:13):
I'm upset that no one said anything. Yeah, it bothers me. Anybody,
somebody stand up for my team and my program, anybody.
But there's people in the office that are paid to
run women's basketball, and you know, again, I've seen it,
but nobody said a word.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 10 (01:46:37):
It's fine. We're gonna go play Thursday night. My team
will be ready. We'll show up and play. But that
ain't hit y'all. There's sixteen games. You can figure out
a way if you're gonna make me do this two
years in a row. And remember last year I played
them twice in LSU once, but I got LSU at home.

(01:46:57):
This year, I get LSU twice, but I also have
to go South Carolina too. Make it make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
Yeah, so you're not happy with that, and yes, South
Carolina is up next. We'll be back to wrap up
today's edition of the program on thirteen under the Zone

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