Super Bowl Storylines, Men's Basketball Preps for South Carolina

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The busy week began yesterday, but it wasn't quite that busy,
but it's ramped up now.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good afternoon, everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to a Tuesday edition of the program here on
Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred of zon. My name is
Craig Way. Thank you for joining us the Craig Wait Show.
Glad to have you with us on this Tuesday. I
usually maintained that this is the most difficult of the
travel days for the commuting worker of the week. Wasn't
too bad coming in earlier today and came in this morning,

(00:36):
and it wasn't really bad.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I've seen it far worse, trust me on that.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
But hopefully your commute is okay and your workday's going
okay as well. Joined by the producer Jay Carmon. You
didn't have any issues or difficulties getting in here, did you?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
No, not too bad. Also came in this morning and look,
based on my sort of shorter commute here, right, I
almost prefer when there's either a lot of traffic or
no traffic at all, because when there's medium traffic, right,
it's kind of hard to turn out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Okay, tell me the rational behind wanting there to be
a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Traffic, because if there's a lot of traffic, it feels
at least like you're moving because folks are inching along,
and you know, Texas drivers, for the most part, very polite.
They're gonna let you in.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, right, But if.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
There's a medium amount of traffic, sometimes you sit and
wait to turn out onto three sixty for five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Okay, and thought so much about it, but okay, all right,
it makes sense. Uh yeah, And you live all of
one point seven miles away, so it's not like you're
doing a heavy duty commute. So that's a good thing.
That was smart of you. By the way, when you
move down to here to join our merried band, that
you latched on to a place you live that's convenient to.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Work, well, you know, sometimes you work inconvenient hours. So
you know, whatever whatever conveniences might have come with living
closer to where more is happening in Austin would have
been offset by how long the commute.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Was, yeah, or living out in the hinternet Lands like
some of us. Do you know it's a fifty minute
commute on a good day. Actually it's about a forty
five minute commute on a good day. Coming in from
the northern reaches of Williamson County, but choose to live
there and I enjoy living there, so you know, you
deal with what comes along with it. And I'm sure

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folks can to identify where they're living. You know, you're
people that live in Dripping Springs and they have to
deal with to ninety coming in and the people living
down in Hayes County which is so fast growing, and
they have to deal with the traffic coming in from there.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Other ones up northwest Leander, Cedar Park.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
It was reflected in what we talked about yesterday with
the biennial realignment of the UIL with the schools being realigned,
the growth in the Leander isd because of the growth
in Cedar Park and Leander because by the way, you know,
the Leander id encompasses the schools that are in the

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city of Cedar Park that include Cedar Park High, it
includes Vista Ridge High School, it includes Vandergriff which is
just around the corner from us up the hill there
at the four Points area. It's all a part of
the Leander Iisty. In addition to Leander High and Glenn
and Rouse all being up there, and all of them

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had growth. All of them had growth, perhaps none more
so than the than the four schools that are moving
up to Class six A Leander High Cedar Park Rals.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And who am I leaving out?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
There were four?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh no, no, no three Leander Isisty and then East View
from Georgetown. So four schools from the area and Georgetown.
And of course I live in Georgetown and I've seen
the explosive growth happening up there and out to the
east side of I thirt five up there, that's where
East View is located.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
And all that. So it's all growing. We know that.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Somebody mentioned that there's one hundred people a day moving
in to the Rosstin area. Is that a real stat
I think it is, But I think that includes a
wide circle. I think that includes perhaps as far east
as Elgin or maybe even Bashtrops, southeast, far west as
Dripping Springs, as far south, perhaps even the San Marcos

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and this I believe that, yeah, yeah, and as far
north as, like I said, up up to the Williamson
County line up to Bell County, so that would include Gerrold,
which has exploded. It's just like what I put to
Greg Chepper when he was on with US yesterday.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I said, we.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Were talking about it almost would have belonged an inconceivable
in their inconceivable segment. Schools that you never would have
thought would have been in the same district with one
another competitive district. Stephenville, your current reigning for a Division
one state champions, and Jerrol in the same district. Think
about that for a moment. I remember when Gerald was

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a two A school not that long ago.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
So I love this. Were you told about Crumb and.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Ponder, Yeah, well, you know, we've all had our our
moments of growth as broadcasters, those of us in the
business business, and we've had our stair steps along the way.
When when I was at North Texas, we had the
campus radio station, and I came into you and I

(05:26):
kind of coaxed and cajoled and prodded our station manager,
who was a faculty member, to allow us to do
high school football and basketball games on the station, and
Cay and Hugh was back then. I think it's kind
of changed in terms of its format. It was a
it was a jazz station, and so they played jazz

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because North Texas of course is a huge music school,
so they play a lot of jazz. But they did
a news block in the evening with a news anchor
and reporters there, and I would anchor the sports uh
and other sportscaster as well. It was designed all of
it to train us in the business. So in the

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sports broadcasting course is taught by my.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
First broadcasting mentor, Bill Mercer.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
He had as part of our project us go out
to different games.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
It could be high school games.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
He said, I don't even care if it's a middle
school game, but I want you to go out and
you call the game. This is early eighties on cassette
tape recorder, cassette cassette. Have you ever used a cassette
recorder before. I've never used a cassette recorder. I that's
just mind boggling. Here'd be here, here's a game. You've
never used a cassette record, but you're twenty five.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
So I had a cassette player, okay, growing up, And
I remember the cassette tape that I liked to play
was the soundtrack to the Wizards in Stadium, So it
at Oregon Music and at the starting lineups, and I
had this little, this little basketball hoop and I would
just you know, run back and forth and almost call

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a basketball game as I was doing, and it's like,
you know, called it imaginary league, and here I am
now on real radio. Look look, Wards led me.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah yeah, but you've never recorded on a cassette taper.
For me anyway, in our sports broadcasting class, it was
one of their crimates. You go out and you do
a football game every week, he said, I don't care
what level it is. You could go to Texas Stadium,
he saying, call a Cowboys game. If you want sitting
up in the stands. You could go to a North
Texas game or an SMU game or whatever and call

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a game. It can be a high school game, he said,
which is probably the most convenient for me. You can
probably get more information from that than say, middle school. Said,
but I don't want you calling it off the TV.
No calling off TV. That wouldn't be authentic. And we
laughed about that year's late. He passed away last year.
He was ninety nine, but I would go and periodically
visit him, and we laughed about how during the pandemic

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a lot of the broadcasts were remote. They were just
calling them off monitors. In fact, when the Oklahoma Women
played Texas Women on Sunday, Oklahoma has a Spanish language
broadcast for women's basketball, but they weren't there. They were
doing it remotely. Almost all of their games are broadcasts
remotely anyway. I learning to do those games on tape,

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sitting in the small little school high school stadiums. I
then persuaded our station manager to allow us to broadcast
playoff games for pilot Point. It was a defending state
champion that year, and so we did that for a
couple of years, and then we actually added a regular
season package with Lewisville High my last year there, so

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we added that. We also did basketball. Crumb and Ponder
two tiny little schools. They were one A schools, neither
had football. They were separated by six miles of a
stretch of far in to market one P fifty six,
Crumb being four miles or five miles northwest of Denton,
Ponder about four or five miles south west of Denton.

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And so you know, Denton was was was always fond
of calling itself part of what they called the Golden
Triangle of North Texas Denton, Dallas for or of course,
the metroplex Dallas Fort Worth.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
They're paying attention to Denton.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
So they would they would say it's the gold In fact,
there's them all up there, Golden Triangle mall. It's been
there for a long long time, and they would say
it's a golden triangle. Denton sits at the top of
the Golden Triangle with Dallas and Fort Worth. Again Dallas
for we're not paying scan attention, what's going on Denton.
So I would do like station promos and I would say,
serving the Golden Triangle of North Texas, Denton, Crumb and Ponder,

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this is f M A D A K N t U.
I would do it like that because they were kind
of in a triangle. But Crumb and Ponder were arch
rivals to the death Right, and they're both really good
in both boys and girls basketball, and usually it came
down to both of them making the playoffs and they
might meet in a regional final to see who would

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get to the state tournament. So yeah, I was for
a couple of years, three years, I guess the play
by play voice of both the Crumb Bobcats and the
Ponder Lions, and we alternated which games we would do.
And now both of those are for a schools and
they're playing football, which again speaks to the growth of
what's going on here in the area. This, of course

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is Super Bowl Week, and let's hear just they had
Super Bowl Opening night Monday night, and then when we
come back, I'm going to explain a little bit about
the difference in Super Bowl coverage. We're also going to
hear from Seawn Miller throughout the course of the program.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
This afternoon.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
The Longhorns do play the South Carolina game Cocks tonight.
It is a six o'clock tip a six o'clock tip
off here on thirteen under the Zone five thirty with
the pregame start time, and we have a truncated version,
a shortened version of Bucky and BK they launched yesterday
on our station. Great to hear the Buck there and

(11:00):
great to hear b Kay who was in with us
yesterday as well.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
How about that tennis talk too, Yeah, those they'll do that.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
They'll get into that. We'll talk a little tennis and
the end of the Australian Open.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I know where to find a guest now if I
can't get in Erotic who apparently lives here.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, he does, he does. He lives in the area.
And Carlos Alcarez. You know how about him being three
and oh against Novak Djokovic in Grand Slam Finals, three
and oh, the youth being served being the great Djokovic,
who's still tied for the most Grand Slam titles with
twenty four. I think it is so uh it's that

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was something to see. But when we let's hear from
the head coaches. First of all, Mike Rabel, the head
coach of the New England Patriots, who on this Super
Bowl opening night was being a little bit more curmudgeonly
because he and liked all the weird questions coming at him,
which is all a part of the Super Bowl media
day thing. Again, I'm going to expand on that a

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little bit coming up to the next segment, but Rabel
asked if he likes actually the fact that New England
is listed as what by three and a half points
or something like that, the underdog.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
I forget if it's three or four.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, somewhere around there, three to four, three and a
half depending on how the betting line is sliding, with
the boys in the Desert getting the action on.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Both sides of the line.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
But anyway, Rabel was asked, does he enjoy being the underdog?

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Well, somebody has to. I don't think we dislike it. Again,
that's not anything that's ever affected us.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
I don't think we set out to necessarily worry about
those types of things.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
I'm excited to be here and with this football team.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
All right, And we'll hear some more from Rabel coming
up a little bit later. Mike McDonald. Here he is
in his first Super Bowl as a head coach, and
he was a little more forthcoming and a little more
engaging in this whole cross that. Uh, you got the
feeling almost that he might have he might have enjoyed
it just a little bit. So he was asked where

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his passion for the game originates.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
I appreciate you saying that. Sometimes I don't feel that
way about myself.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I think.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
I think when I started coaching high school football, I
just fell in love with the process.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
You know, you could find an edge here, find an
edge there.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
I was really, like, really really enamored with like the
x's and o's and the strategy behind it. But honestly,
I think what took my love for the game the
next levels when I actually became a coach and uh,
now you're responsible for people on the field, you know
and and and what they do and off the field,
and you build those relationships and one got and then
when someone when one of your players can do something

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the day be that you know one day that they
couldn't do the day before.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Man, that that'll get you hooked right there.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
And to see him grow in that point of a
lot of me all that stuff was just like, Okay,
this is this is what I need to be doing.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
And he's done it very well. And so the Seahawks
and Patriots meet and it's uh five point thirty, I
believe is the kickoff on Sunday afternoon. All right, coming
up more on this whole Super Bowl media frenzy and
extravaganza that it is. But we're also gonna hear from
Sean Miller, long worn men's basketball coaches, Texas takes on

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the South Carolina game Cocks, a chance for the Longhorns
for a second time this season to pull even the
five hundred and sec play. We'll get to all of
that coming up here on this Tuesday afternoon on sports
Radio AM thirteen under the Zone and where you always
listen to us for absolutely free ninety nine the iHeartRadio app.

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It's the Craig wag Show with the Voice of the
Texas Longhorns in Hall of Fame Broadcasting.

Speaker 8 (14:46):
Craigs, Well, if I didn't already know.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
That today was a Texan Tuesday, I might have been
a little confused by the opening of this, as we
always do on checks and Tuesday. Among our return cuts,
in the four o'clock hour we hear from the King
George Strait, and the three o'clock hour from the iconic
Willie Nelson, hearing the two o'clock hour from the immortal

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Steed Ray Vaughan.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
In this particular.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Selection, a cover of Jimi Hendrix's Voodoo Child.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, okay, all right, So here's what I want you
to do, because when I first heard the first part
of it, and then I want you to I want
you to play the other tune that I want you
to play, the two that I want you to play.
I'm going to have you restart this in a minute.
But the tune I want you to play is jive
Talking by the Beg's Okay, you'll follow me on this,

(15:53):
all right, So you pull up.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Give talking that's being pulled up, Okay, by.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
The way, you have inconceivable coming up.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Next segment, of this hour, we're about to hear something
from Sean Miller and more on the Super Bowl and
the phenomenon that is Super Bowl Media Day.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Now, all right, so first I want you to play.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Are you able to play what you just hit back
with the Stevie ray Vaughn?

Speaker 9 (16:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
From the top, yep, yep. All right, yeah, that's the
important thing. That's why I was throwing off at first.
So here's here's here's the start of that.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
As you just heard.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
It sounds like a live version of the two here
in Austin. You hear this, Okay, I bring that down,
all right, and now get jive talking. I heard that
the guitars scratch at first, there's more bass here, and
then of course the beg's get into the tune here.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
From nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
But it's that first scratching guitar there that have me thinking,
is he bumping back with the begs? Which I'm talking,
But then I heard the background space on that. I
was not using it as an excuse to bump back
with the beg's, I promise you, but we ought.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
To we ought to have just a summer show at
some point where you know, you can just parlay songs
that you can kind of hear like that, because you,
I mean, you know almost as much about music as
you do about sports.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, I'll tell you what we'll do that.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
We'll plan on a show where you'll bump back with
it with a tune and I'll go, wait, play, and
then we'll see how similar.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
They are, something where our listeners can play along.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
These two were only similar enough at the very start.
There is a galaxy of difference between the music of
the Beg's and the music of Stevie ray Vaughn. Trust
me on that. I think everybody knows that. But the
first part of it, with the guitar scratch and heavy
thinking about it a little bit, yeah, I can hear it, Okay,
all right, Before we hear from Sean Miller, I just

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had a couple other thoughts about this about Super Bowl.
The Super Bowl, of course, has evolved over time and
from you know, even its first days when it wasn't
even called the Super Bowl. It was called the AFL
NFL World Championship Game, and that's kind of worthy. Worthy
and Pete Roselle, the commission of the NFL, was trying

(18:18):
to find a better term for lamar Hunt at the
time the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
His son, Clark Hunt is the principal owner.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Now. Lamar Hunt was one of the founding fathers, really
the brainchild of the start of the AFL, which ultimately
forced the merger. And you have all the teams that
you have today that were in the AFL at the time.
And Lamar Hunt came up with the idea of the
name super Bowl. He got it from his daughter who

(18:48):
was playing with one of those super balls, the one
that you know bounces way high in the air. It's
got the compound in it's kind of almost like the
skin on Saturday Night Live, the Happy fun Ball thing.
But it was one of those balancing balls super Bowl
to bounced way up high in the airlall of compressed
rubber and everything. And his daughter said, Daddy looked at
my super Bowl and he thought about it.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
And that's how super Bowl came up.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
But it really wasn't adopted by the NFL as the
term for it until Super Bowl three when the Jets
upset the Colts on that so it evolved from that.
It evolved as well in terms of its television coverage.
The first ever Super Bowl was televised by both networks,

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CBS and NBC because CBS had the NFL contract and
NBC had the AFL contract. And then they decided to
go to an alternating thing by bid over time, and
this year will be NBC that televises the Super Bowl.
So it evolved in that area. It's evolved in so
many areas, and one area that it did is in

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its media coverage. There was a time through the first
really four maybe five Super Bowls where there wasn't really
a media day per se. There was a day where
he could come out to the hotel. There's that great
shot of Joe Namath sitting pool side visiting with the
reporters there at the Fount Blue Hotel in Miami.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well, he guaranteed a victory.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, Well, he actually did that in a luncheon three
days before they had a luncheon and people were trying
to shout him down that the Colts were going to
hammer him, and he.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Said, hey, let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I guarantee you we're going to the Jets are going
to win this game.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I guarantee it. And he backed it up.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
So it started from that, and then eventually the NFL
started adding press conferences, and then in addition to the
press conference, it would have a big Super Bowl Media Day,
and I covered a few of those, especially when the
Cowboys were there in the early nineties, and the way

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that you used to do it was on media Day,
you would go into a large venue and the players
were stationed at podiums spread out and around. When the
Cowboys won Super Bowl twenty seven over the Bills, the
first one that they want under Jimmy Johnson, the media
day was actually at Dodger Stadium and they loaded all

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of us media behind the left center field outfield wall
and then they opened it like at whatever eleven am
local time or whatever it was, and then we were
just charging across the outfield. It was like the running
of the Bulls in Pamploma and we were all running
to visit with Troy Aikman or Thurman Thomas or Jim
Kelly or Emmitt Smith. And it was this mad scramble

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across the field that was Super Bowl Media days back then.
The next year in Atlanta, we kind of walked in
on the floor and they were stationed up at various
places and they still do that, although now they've added
Monday Night with the Super Bowl Monday night opening night
thing where Roger Goodell does his his press conference state

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of the game. He used to do that on Friday,
two days before the game, and then players and coaches
would take part of media. Like you just heard a
couple of the sound bites there, they moved it forward
to Monday.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It wasn't like that at a time in fact.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
When the Cowboys won back to back Super Bowls twenty
seven and twenty eight, and I was hosting both Jimmy
Johnson's and Jerry Jones radio shows during those years.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
We did Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Show for one of a better term inside a janitorial
closet in Atlanta at the team a hotel, and his
call in show was just that and what people would
call in and ask questions. But he didn't have time
for that in a game week, and so we went
in did about twenty five minutes just sitting down in

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this little janitorial closet where we had our little studio
set up back then, and that's how we did it
for Jerry. For Jimmy Jerry, I think I just went
with the aforementioned tape recorder and recorded a sit down
of about ten minutes with Jerry. I think that was
two questions and so we got that done. So it's

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evolved over time. What has not evolved, what has been unchanging,
is the amount of stupid questions I get asked. So,
I mean in this predates my time covering. I mean
the most famous of all, certainly was the question for
Doug Williams at Super Bowl twenty two, how long have
you been a black quarterback? Gee?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I wonder? Yeah, think about that. How long have you
been a black quarterback?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
John Elway? Same Super Bowl? If you were a tree?
What kind of tree would you be?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
So you don't want to know that, you don't care, no, no.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
But people would There are people who show up at
these events and their main deal is to get something quirky, goofy,
or get somebody off balance or something like that.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
But do your research, yeah, yeah, looking thoughtful and interesting.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well, there's no research involved with if you were a tree,
what kind of tree would you be? Now, you also
had things like I remember there was a TV Personnal.
You will not remember her, being as young as you are,
but some of the older folks will who was on
MTV at the time, Downtown Julie Brown, and she was
like one of their most popular personalities, and she was
going around asking ridiculously stupid questions. At one of the

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Super Bowl. I think it was the second one that
I with the Cowboys in that I covered. Also also
in the first Super Bowl, I think I covered first
or second. There was a young lady from Brazil. Because
you have international media there, give her three thousand media.
There was a young lady from Brazil who was a reporter,

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but she was in a wedding dress and she was
looking for a husband. So she would do interviews and
then ask, you know, Asktrman Thomas if he was interested
in getting married, or ask Michael Irvin if he was
interested in getting married.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
And this is pre social media, which makes it even
crazier to me.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Exactly, So none of that has changed. It's still the nutty,
stupid questions that can get asked.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Quote Mike Elica, can we can we run a professional
press conference?

Speaker 6 (25:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Right, right, And the answer to that is no, not
when it comes to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
All right, Before we go to the break, let's hear
from Longhorn's head coach Sean Miller talking about the progress
that his team has made in their first season with
him and the new coaching staff from game one to
where it is right now through twenty two games and
where does he still need to see the progress?

Speaker 10 (25:40):
Yeah, I mean we were talking about it earlier this morning.
If you remember when we were getting together in the
off season and in particular once the school year started,
you know, I would constantly reference, you know, time is
not on our side when you talk about our non
conference season, especially the months of November and early December,
and you know, I think that a lot of that

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is just true. You know, I use Tremon marks the example,
and that you know, it took us a while. It
took Treumon a while to get settled and us put
him in a good position offensively as a coaching staff,
you know, us just getting everybody on the same page,
and I think being just a more cohesive unit, whether

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it be on offense, defense, how we sub the combinations
of players. It's just it's never in your favor when
you first get to a program in those first you know,
eight ten weeks. So I think some of our improvement
is just a function of that, you know, regardless of
what you see us getting better at time together, you know,
we've practiced over seventy times. Now, like you said, we're

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playing over twenty games. It's February. The time is more
on our side now than it used to be, so
I think, you know, some of that answer for me
is just time together and players playing for me as
a coach, meet coaching them, and us being together longer.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
You know. Look, I think we're ahead of the curve.

Speaker 10 (27:06):
When you compare us defensively to offensively, we're a better
offensive team. We've done some really good things on offense,
getting to the free throw line and shooting a good
percentage in sec I think that remains something that we
want to continue to be good at, attacking the paint
and attacking like that box, that that area right around
the rim where we're shooting a very hot percentage, and

(27:27):
it's not just modest, you know, it's swaying, it's it's trema.
And there's a lot of guys that can score the
ball at the rim and get fouled, and those two
things they have. They have a way of translating from
home games to WAG games and uh, and.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
We've done that well.

Speaker 10 (27:42):
I think we've proven to everybody, including ourselves that that's
one of the strengths of our team. You know, I
think defensively, it's just you know, twofold fouling less. Uh,
it doesn't mean being softer. But look when you look
at us, we don't force turnovers and we foul. That's
a wicked combination. You know, teams that don't force turnovers
can win big, but you cannot foul. And sometimes if

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you're a block shot team, the steel team, you force
turnovers and yet you foul. You know, you can coexist,
and those two things can co exist and you can win.
But when you don't turn the defense over, the turn
offense over and you foul, we have to be better
at turning at not fouling.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
I've talked a lot about that.

Speaker 10 (28:24):
And then I think the other thing, Eric is just
being a better team that defends a three point line. No,
teams don't shoot a lot of threes against us, but
they have shot a high percentage throughout the course of
the season. And there are times when you know, guards
on the other team have just done us in by
deep threes and threes against our guards. So I'm hoping
that we can improve our defense down the stretch of

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fouling less.

Speaker 6 (28:46):
We did it against Oklahoma.

Speaker 10 (28:48):
We did it in the first half against Auburn, and
if you look at the team that we have, those are,
you know, a couple of really good halves. We've played
in large part because we didn't foul as much as
we have been.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
All Right, we're gonna hear more from Sean Miller coming
up in the preceding hours that will follow this one
as well. Second hour of the program here on Sports

(29:20):
Radio AM thirteen Under the Zone. Glad to have you
with us on this Tuesday afternoon. Craig Way alongside the
producer Jay Carman, coming up at five o'clock. Bucky and
BK that's Bucky Godbolt and Brad Kellner back with us
here on thirteen Under the Zone. Began yesterday the return,
and they'll be back just a thirty minute edition of
the program today because we have long worn basketball. At

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five point thirty the airtime and at six o'clock tip
off Texas against South Carolina, I'm gonna hear from Sean
Miller in just a moment. Also this hour, we'll more
pre Super Bowl ramp up, and we're gonna hear from
the coaches. We're gonna hear from thequarterbacks. We're gonna hear
from the commissioner of the NFL. He's kind of state
of the League address, Roger Goodell. So we have that

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coming up here in our number two. Let's jump right
in and start with Texas against South Carolina tonight. So
here are the Longorns with a chance for the second
time this season to get back to the five hundred
mark in conference.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Played the four and five.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Remember they started he two, They got two and two,
then they fell to two and four, got the three
and four, three and five, and now a chance to
get back to five and five after winning at Oklahoma
on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Up in Norman.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
So now they're back home and Sean Miller was asked
to evaluate the performance of his bench against Oklahoma and
the fact about his propensity to lean on them so much.

Speaker 10 (30:53):
Well, I thought, in large part, the big reason we
won at Oklahoma was the three guys who played who
didn't start the game. They all started Kendall. I thought
Kendall had an incredible first half. He scored the ball,
he defended, he gave us a lot of confidence. The
game changed when we subbed him in. We stuck with
him for a large part of that first half, and
in many ways Kendall got us to halftime and then

(31:15):
in the second half.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
He also is a key contributor. Sim Wilcher, we.

Speaker 10 (31:19):
Don't we don't beat Oklahoma about his play, and you
know Sim has uncharacteristically not shot the ball as well.
I think maybe I lost some confidence for a brief
period of time, you know. I think the Oklahoma game,
you know, resurrected his confidence and ten points, two big
three point shots, did a really good job defensively down
the stretch when when we needed a stop and we

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needed one of our guards to really press up and
be more difficult to score against. Sim also gave us
that without fouling so and then Trey or you know,
it's hard to really give his value and you don't score,
but you know his defensive quickness and ability, his screening.
You know, a couple of Jordan Pope's shots at the
end of the game where a direct reflection of the

(32:04):
Scena just being unselfish and setting some great screens and.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Just knowing who he is playing his role.

Speaker 10 (32:11):
So I thought those three guys were instrumental in our
last win.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
It was great to see.

Speaker 10 (32:15):
You cannot do it in the SEC with just your
starting group. You need guys to come in off the
bench and contribute, and I think some of our best
performances this year somebody from our bench really contributed in
a key way, and the Oklahoma game was a director
reflection of that.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Next, he was asked about another word that he uses
all the time. It's a word that every coach uses
in abundance, and he uses it like in the pregame
conversations that he and I have and when he's in
postgame press conferences or preview media zooms like this one.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
And the word is consistency.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
And he was asked to evaluate where his team is
in terms of its consistency level.

Speaker 10 (33:00):
But there's no doubt we've maintained a consistent level of play.
You know, we lost a tough game at Auburn, lost
a tough game at ropp Arena against Kentucky. And there's
certainly in both of those games, especially on the defensive
side of the ball, you could really like shoot holes
in us. But I think the level of play in
the way that game felt. Both of those games, you know,
those are two good teams, especially on their home court.

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And you know, usually when you see the dips in
peaks and valleys, you know, you see it game gets
away from your game on the road, you don't have
your crowd, next thing, you know, the deficit just it
becomes enormous.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
That really hasn't happen to us. We've stayed the course.

Speaker 10 (33:37):
We really have maintained a level of play and hasn't
always led to a win. But the constant improvement I
think is something we're proud of. I believe that our
offense has continued to stay consistent and improve incrementally. I
think where we're at and how we finish will be
determined by one thing, and that is whoever we are

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today defensively.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
We cannot be the same team in March.

Speaker 10 (34:04):
Cannot We will not be able to get to where
we want to get to by being a very good
offensive team and a subpart defensive team. We improved through
our performance at Oklahoma in Large Park because we did
not foul and it wasn't a great defensive performance, but
it was better and it was.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
On the road, and we have to grow and build.

Speaker 10 (34:22):
So if we can maintain our level and get better defensively,
you know, I think there's some really good, good games
in our future, and I believe we can end up
being in a good place.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
If you've noticed, Dalen Swayin has been red hot of
late for Texas. He has had a major contribution to
what the log Worns have been able to do. In fact,
in the last four games, he's averaged twenty six points,
seven rebounds, four assists, and two and a half steals
in thirty seven minutes per game. He's converted sixty five

(34:58):
percent from the floor, he said, thirty seven to fifty
seven shots, forty four percent from three point range, eight
of eighteen, and eighty eight percent from the free throw
line he said twenty one out of twenty four from
the foul line as well. So he's been tremendous. He
was tremendous for Sean Miller when he played for Xavior.
But he was asked what has made him special of late,

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especially on the offensive.

Speaker 10 (35:23):
End, and really knows who he is as a basketball
player at this time. You know, if there's one area
we're really trying to coach him, teach him, you know,
really hold him accountable, is just he has the ball
in his hands so much and he means so much
to our team. That's sometimes just you know, taking better
care of it, whether it be through a decision or

(35:43):
just you know, just that's not a time that you
need to attack, you know, kind of get rid of it,
let somebody else kind of handle it. So I think
we're on him with that. But he's playing at a
very high level. I said it after the Oklahoma game.
There's so many good players in SEC that when you
think about an all conference team in our league, I
think it's almost impossible.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
They're just God, there's so many good ones.

Speaker 10 (36:06):
And I know the winning teams should get the most players,
but I don't know there's a player who means more
to their team than what Dalan Swain means to Texas.
And you just look statistically, it's not just his scoring,
it's his defensive rebounding, his assist you know, having the
ball in his hands and key moments, offensive rebounding. He

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really leads us in virtually every statistical category. So he's
having a great year. I'm anxious for him to continue
on the track he's on, and I do think that
if he could cut down his turnovers down the stretch,
I think there's a lot of great things not only
for him, but our team too.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
One more about Dylan Swaying from Sean Miller. He was
asked to describe the type of competitor he is, what
it was like when he was at Xavier, and how
it's you know, transfer down the tech and what has
made him better, and he just talked about the improvement
in his competitive level of performance.

Speaker 10 (37:09):
Yeah, you know, I think like a lot of things
that Daylan has improved on since he's left high school
and gone to college is just.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
You know, he's he's just.

Speaker 10 (37:19):
He's incrementally grown each month that he's been in college,
Like he's just continually continually gotten better. But I also
think he's gotten a lot more confident. You know, his
confidence comes with a lot of repetition and experience and success.
He's put a lot of time and working. You got
to remember, Dalen, when he went to college, he was

(37:39):
six foot seven, one hundred and seventy eight pounds. When
you guys are watching him pray for us right now,
he's six foot eight to twenty So you know, he's
forty plus pounds heavier and an inch taller, two three
years older. As he's gone through a lot of these
months and putting work in and gaining experience, he's certainly

(38:00):
got more confident and look as a coach, I would
rather have to tame a guy and pull him back,
you know, then hit him on the button and say,
come on, man, we need more, we need more energy.
You know, that second group of guys for me, is
an impossible to coach. You know, if I'm looking at
you and I can't see it in your eyes, this
is just a wrong place, the wrong conference, and the

(38:22):
wrong set of expectations to be a part of. You know,
when you're about it, you can see it in a
guy's body language and his eyes and his determination.

Speaker 6 (38:31):
And I really think the Daylan possesses those qualities.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
We'll hear more from Sean Miller coming up. But up
next we shift back the Super Bowl sixty. We'll hear
more from the head coaches, the quarterbacks, and the commissioner,
Roger Goodell when we continue here on sports Radio AM
thirteen under his own ay iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
App Ever, no, we.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Always hear from the iconic Willie Nelson during the three
o'clock hour his version of have you Ever Seen the Rain?
And with his daughter Paul and Nelson as well. So
here on a Texan Tuesday on thirteen hundred the zone.
All right, we move on back to the Super Bowl,

(39:33):
and first let's hear from the head coaches again. Mike
Rabel was asked about and again on Super Bowl opening night.
You're going to get a lot of questions about a
lot of different areas. Some have nothing to do with football.
This does, although it's different. The fact that there was
you might say, significant news yesterday coming down. First of

(39:55):
all that Robert Kraft, the owner of the New England Patriots,
was not voted in the Hall of Fame, and what
more on that coming up, and of course he was
the owner one Mike Rabel played for the Patriots, and
of course Rabel played for Bill Belichick, but he was
asked about Belichick being snubbed not getting in on the

(40:16):
first ballot.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
I'm confident that Bill will get in. I don't know
the you know, the process. I know that everybody's talking
about the process and however the vote needs to go.
I know that Bill is a Hall of Fame coach.
Whether he's gonna be in the Hall of Fame this
year or next year, the year after that, he's a
Hall of Fame football coach.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
The coach on the other side, Mike McDonald, of course,
is getting his Seattle Seahawks ready, But McDonald grew up
in the New England area. The Patriots were his team.
Belichick was his coach, Craft was his owner, and he
was asked about facing the team he grew up rooting for.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Well, I honestly, I haven't thought about it much.

Speaker 7 (40:57):
It's funny when you're when you're a kid, you think
about how important that is. And obviously I have a
ton of respect for the New England community and all
all the Patriot fans out there.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Shoot, I was one of them.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
But when you now are in this role, you're really
just thinking through the lens of I'm responsible for our
team and our community in the twelves, and what can
we do every day decision by decision to put us
in position to go be a team we want to
be an ultimately win a championship.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
So that's really where our focus is now.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
But again, a lot of respect for that area of
the country, and I still have a lot of family
that live up there.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
So yeah, So yeah, he likes the Patriots, but he
certainly doesn't want them winning. On Sunday, the guy who
does want them winning because he was probably gonna have
a lot to do with it, one way, the others.
Drake made the Patriots quarterback. He was asked about, you
know that he's had this marvelous season. We're gonna find
out Thursday night with the NFL honters. It's largely assumed

(41:55):
that either he or Matthew Stafford of the Rams is
going to win the Most Valuable Player award. So his
play significantly ramped up this season, and his consistency level,
can you know, definitely ramped up as well. So he
was asked about the consistency and establishing that level of

(42:16):
play and where did it come from at such a
young tender age.

Speaker 11 (42:20):
Play my teammates, just having you know, learning them, of
getting a you'll go to work with them each and
every day and nothing you don't know, you knowing what
your teammates you're going to do, and knowing that you
know what.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
They expect from me.

Speaker 11 (42:29):
Just having an open relationship with Hey, I want you
to do this on this player.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Hey, I think I can maybe get more out of
you here.

Speaker 11 (42:34):
And I think he's a coaching you know, coaching you know,
give a lot of credits, you know, coach Rabel and
coach McDaniels and Ashton in the quarterback room just how
they've handled me and approached the approach the game.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
You know, it's interesting. Drake May grew up in North Carolina.
He played high school football Charlett. In fact, he was
in high school at Myers Park at the same time
that Cameron was in high school in the Charlotte There
a different high school, but they were at the same time.
For those of us old enough to remember, remember his dad,
Mark May, playing in North Carolina after he led Sanford

(43:08):
High School to a four A state championship. And remember
that because he beat the high school that I would
have attended had my family not moved, Ben L. Smith
in Greensboro for the state title. And his son, of course,
Mark May, I mean Mark May's son. Drake played very
well there in Charlotte, and of course then at North
Carolina and now with the Patriots. It's interesting though for

(43:32):
Drake May ten years ago when it was Super Bowl fifty,
he attended the game at the same venue and as
he thought about that and what it's like now to
be walking in as a player as opposed to when
he was a kid going in to watch the game in.

Speaker 11 (43:51):
The full socle moment, I asked the biggest thing, you
know what a moment. I'm just so thankful for my
dad and was able to take you know, sat Meto
super Bowl's you know, don't tell you if for granted
on Ira kick is s is that And he was
watching my favorite team at the time, and he got
a chance to watch Peyton Manning's last game.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
You know what a cool experience that was.

Speaker 11 (44:06):
And now to be here and playing you know one myself,
you know, I don't tell you for granted know how
special this is and just trying to enjoy it, enjoy
my teammates, enjoy with everybody who will help get me
here and from there go try to win it.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I like how he separated too. You said, watch my
favorite team.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
He was a Carolina Panthers fan growing up in Charlotte,
and then getting to see Peyton Manning play, you.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Know, for the Broncos. On that.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Sam Darnold has had his own unique road. He's the
first quarterback who played at UFC to start in a
Super Bowl, and that's something that almost seems mind boggling
to think about it. We think about all the quarterbacks
have come from the University of Southern Califoria.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
I guess Sanchez is close. Lost in the AFC champions.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yes, yep, absolutely. Pat Hayden for the Rams lost in
the NFC championship game with the Rams couple of times.
Those of us who painfully remember those losses of the
seventies would remember that. But yes, there have been quarterbacks
that played that us see that lost in the conference championships.
But Sam Darnold is going to the super Bowl, and

(45:06):
of course he's had that unique journey with all the
teams that he has been with, most notably the Jets
and the Vikings, and he was asked to share his
perspective on this really unique journey he's had.

Speaker 12 (45:19):
You know, I take every experience as its own, you know,
I no matter what happens, you know, I was I
was really blessed to be able to get drafted to
the Jets. Obviously things didn't work out the way that
I wanted to there, and then I went to you know,
the Carolina Panthers, where I made a lot of great friends,
I learned some really good football as well, just part
of my journey, and then went to San Francisco. You know,

(45:40):
was able to be a backup there and for a
great player in Brock perty learn under you know, a
great coach and Kyle Shanahan, Brian Griesi, the Kubiaks obviously,
and and then I went to Minnesota, and again I
was with some really great coaches, some really great players
as well. And you know, I think everything, you know,
everything I do, I just take it one day at
a time, and I think that's kind of the mantra

(46:01):
for myself and what I've been able to do.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
I guess over the last couple of years. Yeah, okay,
interesting there. And then so here's the guy who's had
a suitcase is packed. Obviously the four prior teams that
he mentioned there, the Jets, the Panthers, the forty nine
ers in the Vikings. Now he's a Seahawk. By the way,
has he been able to find a home in Seattle?

Speaker 12 (46:24):
You know, I would have loved to get drafted to
New York and you know, have that be my home
for twenty years, but it just didn't work out that way.
And you know, same thing in Carolina. And then you know,
in San Francisco, that was a great place for me
to learn. And in Minnesota, I feel like I had
a great opportunity with really good players and really good
coaches to show not people, but show myself what I

(46:45):
could do out on a football field, and I.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Think people saw that.

Speaker 12 (46:48):
And again, like Seattle, you know, just from the get
you know, right when I got here, it felt like home,
and it feels like home, and you know, I'm just
so thankful for John and Mike believing in me, and
you know, all the players in that locker room for
believing in me, and and for me to just be
able to go out there and do nothing more than
my job on every single play. And I think that's

(47:08):
a that's a very very secure feeling as a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Let me tell you something, as a RAMS fan, it'd
be pretty easy for me to hate on both of
these teams. And I hope that, you know, a media
would strike the stadium on Sunday. But I like the
coaches and in the quarterbacks and what they've what they've
been through and all that sort of stuff. So I'm
I'm I really don't have a rooting interest. I don't

(47:33):
This is one time. Usually every Super Bowl I can
pretty easily choose a side, like when when the Ravens
played the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Anybody who played the forty nine.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Ers, I'm going to root for the other team.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Well, you've had a lot of division foes and a
lot of Super Bowl yes exactly, and the Rams have
been to yeah coming their own yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
So and and I can usually find like, for example,
Denver and Carol, I rooted for the Broncos because of
Peyton Manning in that Super Bowl. But I always like
the Panthers, even though they weren't around when I was
growing up in North Carolina, and I do root for
them when they're not having to deal with the Rams.
But there's this is one of those Super Bowls where

(48:17):
you know, someone say, well, yeah, you don't have a
rooting interest because you don't really care. No, I always
care and watch the Super Bowl. I usually watch the
postgame press conferences and things like that, and I think
I will again, so I think I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
It's a good way to watch sports, though, I mean,
it's a pretty miserable way to be a sports fan,
blindly assigning emotions to individuals based on the logo they.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Are Yeah, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Now, I you know, when you grow up steeped in
rooting for one team, you stick with your team. That's
sort of that. That philosophy did not work with either
of my Sons. They kind of deviated and did their
own thing, and it's okay, But you know, I stuck
with the same team I've had since I was nine
years old, so I'm going to root for them vociferously.
But it's nice to be able to watch a game

(49:04):
if my team can't be in it. This is different
for me. It's it's nice to be able to watch
a game with no heavy, heavy rooting interest for or
against either side, because there's a lot of good guys involved.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Right Like, I'm a Washington fan division rival of the Eagles.
I'm also a Longhorn. I like Jalen Hurts. Okay, yeah, yeah,
you know, and here you're from Washington.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah he didn't. He didn't have a great year.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
But your dad also has ties with Alabama, and there
he is. That's part of it that Jalen Hurts out
of Channel View High there in the Houston area as well.
Let's hear from the commissioner, Roger Goodell was asked, you know,
one of the most hotly discussed It's not really debated
because it had already been decided that Bad Bunny was

(49:48):
going to be the halftime performer. But a lot of
a lot of folks are really down on that, depending
on which side of the political aisle you happen to exist,
and that includes all the way up to the White
House with the expressions of disdain of Bad Bunny performing.
So the Commission was asked about Bad Bunny, who, by

(50:10):
the way, one album of the year on Sunday Night.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
And his reactions going viral.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
You know, Goodell was asked about are there security concerns
beyond what you would normally have at a Super Bowl
as well as the platform for Bad Bunny?

Speaker 13 (50:30):
On your first question, security is obviously one of the
things we focus on the most. It's a year one
level event that involves unique assets at the federal level,
state level, and the local level all working together. I
see no change in that in the preparations for the
Super Bowl. We've not seen that. We're working with all

(50:52):
three of those levels and doing everything we can to
make sure it's a safe environment, and the federal government
is a big part of that, including this administration and
every other administration before that. I think SIER one has
probably been the category we've had since at least the
turn of the century, if not before that. So I
just anticipate will continue to do the work to make

(51:14):
it the safest event. On your second question, I think
everybody and one of the listen Bad Benny was is
and I think that was demonstrated last night. One of
the great artists in the world, and that's one of
the reasons to be chosen. But the other reason is
he understood the platform he was on, and that was
this platform is used to unite people and to be

(51:34):
able to bring people together with their creativity, with their talents,
and to be able to use this moment to do that.
And I think artists in the past have done that.
I think Bad Bunny understands that, and I think you'll
have a great performance.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Next this was an interesting question for Goodell asked about
New York Giants owner Stephen Tish, who was mentioned numerous
times in those Epstein files, and might he be subject
to discipline.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Well, you may get.

Speaker 13 (52:06):
It be getting ahead of yourself on the second part.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
But I would say that absolutely.

Speaker 13 (52:10):
You know, we are going to look at all the facts,
We're going to look at the context of those, We're
going to try to understand that, and we'll look at
how that falls under the policy. But I think we
take one step at a time. Let's get the facts first, okay.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
And then one day after the NFL's coaching carousel stopped
with ten head coaching jobs filled, but only one by
a minority candidate. Goodell was asked about the Rooney rule
because it's drawn a lot of criticism. Folks say it
doesn't work right to you know, quote unquote interview for

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the sake of interviewing a minority candidate and then you
just go about your business and hire whoever you want,
and that it's very hypocritical and that it doesn't really work.
So Godell was asked about are they going to exam
and the possibility of removing it, or what do you
do about something like this.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
You know me too well to say.

Speaker 13 (53:05):
I'm resigned to something where I think we need to
continue to make progress, and I believe that I believe
diversity is good for us. I think we have become
a more diverse league across every platform, including coaching, but
we saw more work to do. There's got to be
more steps. So we're reevaluating everything we're doing, including our

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accelerated program, including every aspect of our policies and our
programs to meet the challenges of today and tomorrow rather
than yesterday. So we need to be looking at that
and sort of say, Okay, why did we have the
results this year? What is it that we can be
doing in training or education? And that goes for not

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just the candidates but also the clubs and how we
can try to continue to increase the opportunities and the
outcomes ultimately.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Right, there's from the Commissioner, Roger God All right, we've
got more coming. I'm gon talk some basketball coming up
next when we continue on sport Radio AM thirteen under
the Zone in the iHeartRadio app which well, one of
my favorites. The song is one of my favorites for

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sixty six. But the great Ray Benson there going back
to his days with the Sleep of the Wheel and
what he's done forward is just a lot of fun.
And he is a huge Longhorn fan. Performs at several
Texas events. I've heard him sing the national anthem at
basketball games, football games, baseball games, softball games.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
I'm sure you've seen him in at Kenn Burns Country
Music Doctor, so everywhere.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, Yes, he's Omney President. Always great to hear from
the Great Ray Benson on a Texan Tuesday here on
thirteen hundred the Zone. Speaking of great Texans, Mick Schaeffer
is one of those. He grew up near Lagrange and
often refer to his mama's sweet tea and the lessons
he drew from the Colonel his dad, among other things.

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And after that big win they had over Oklahoma on Sunday,
he was asked if the team is starting to utilize
its depth. You think about Aliah Crump who started as
a freshman, so she got hurt four games in then
of course had to recover, and he had different starters.
Taya Sidbury was in there, and then Justice Carleton of late.

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But Taya comes off the bench, and Aliah, now that
she's healthy, is coming off the bench.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Breonna Preston coming off the bench and was.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Asked if his team is now starting to utilize its
depth in ways that he really wants to see them perform.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Well, I think we're getting there.

Speaker 9 (55:51):
You know, I think, you know, Booker getting ten shots,
I'll probably go back and look at the film and
want her to have.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Five or six more.

Speaker 9 (56:00):
You know, she's so efficient seven out of ten she
leaves two points out there on free throw attempts, but
sixteen points in five assists.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
I mean, she's just really efficient.

Speaker 9 (56:12):
We need to do a better job of getting her
the ball and getting her more shots. But I thought
her shots where she took them today were really critical
and she was very active defensively. And again the depth
that we have now, I thought.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Preston played really good today.

Speaker 9 (56:27):
She came off the bench and really gave us a
good lift and played well. And when that group was
in there in that first half, they did a nice job.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
And so she's been practicing.

Speaker 9 (56:40):
Well also, So I thought she did a good job
and really giving giving Rory a little breather, and so yeah,
I think our depth is really really good.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Next, he was asked about the environment they had. If
you showed up early on Sunday, I saw ESPN's College
Game Day. There you had an incredible knowledgeable basketball analyst
in I forgot her last name, Andrea Carter. Carter, Yeah,

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Andrea Carter, who is just I love her work. She's
she's great on ESPN on the on the men's college
game Day as well. Uh Shane Agumakay, I've known since
she was in high school. I called three of her
state championship games for television. Two that they won along
with her twin sister, Mecca, and then the third that
they lost. They were shockingly upset by Rockwall their senior year.

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But she's always really good and they use her on
NBA coverage as well in the studio. And then there's
Christine Williams and who's basically a sports center anchor who's
thrust into the role when she demonstrated she didn't know
an awful lot about the women's game because she not
only her prediction, she picked Oklahoma to win, picked Baylor
to beat West Virginia, and she misfired on both of those.

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She did get UCLA beating Iowa, but she didn't exactly
display a great depth of knowledge on the women's game
because she's mainly a sports center anchor, but they put
her I think that what's her name, Kelsey Riggs Cuff
Dallan Cuff's wife who does a lot of acc network,
but they put her on NCAA coverage. I saw her
last night on coverage at I think it was the

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South Carolina Texas A and M game. In the studio
I'm talking about it and she is very, very knowledgeable,
so there's a lot of knowledge there Christine Williamsm is
mainly a table center.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
A little bit like Katie George was of the Australian Open.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
I think so, and Katie's really good on football. But yeah,
it's a little bit different thing.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
I thought Malik Andrews came in diod a good job
there the second week.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
There's there's people. Here's where I'm going with this, there
are people who are cast in certain roles. First of all,
let's hear from Vick Schaeffer about this, not about the roles,
but the role that College Game Day did in helping
to create that home court environment that started off eleven
o'clock Sunday morning.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
You know, it's great to have College Game Day here.

Speaker 9 (59:12):
It was their first college game day of the year
for them, and it's really an honor. I'm you know,
as I've heard me say many times, part of building
your programs, building your fan base. And these kids are
in the they're in the spotlight every day, you know.
So I don't I don't know that it's too big
for them. Bookers won four gold medals for a country.

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I mean, how big a I mean, that's a pretty
big spotlight Rory's been in these games her whole career,
so I don't really get too worried about them. I
might worry about some of the others, but I don't
worry about them too much. Again, I'm I'm really proud
of our program. I'm proud of our kids. I'm proud
that ESPN and ABC think enough of us here at

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Texas to come.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Here and and do that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:01):
And but again, it's like I've said all along, it's
the product. You know these kids are and they if
you watch that game today, they're amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Like you saw some kids make some.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
Big shots, big shots, and you know they've earned they
they looked looked to me, they found a way down
the stretch to win. Again, we have so much we
can continue to work on and get better at. But man,
I'm just so proud of them. But it's it's it's
really awesome. I'm I'm really proud of again our program.

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And you know, they know I do care what people think,
you know, and and so that that they think enough
of the University of Texas women's basketball to come here
and make this their first college.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Game day of the year and be on ABC.

Speaker 9 (01:00:50):
I mean, think about it when when I was growing up,
the only game on on a on a regular channel
was the National Championship Game and it was on CBS.
And we've now evolved in the last two or three
years where ABC is picking up games. That's pretty cool.
So to have that opportunity today again, I'm proud of

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our kids, proud of our program.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
So that's big talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
And I mentioned the College Game Day thing, but I
wanted to go back for a moment here to what
I was talking about with regard to people who are
in roles where they're really good and some perhaps not
as much. For example, ESPN's College Game Day on Football,

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Rhys Davis does a fabulous job as the anchor Desmond Howard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
His depth of football is obviously very very good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Sometimes he gets out there with some of his predictions
a little crazy, like the one about don't be surprised
if there's a change in head coach in Texas when
he was setting out his trash. But he knows the
game pretty well. Kirk kirk Street obviously knows what he's
talking about. Nick Saban is the iconic of the game.
Pat McAfee is there for the entertainment side of it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
We get it. And there he does some.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Homework and and and you understand where he's coming from
as a former player as well. But he's largely the
entertainment piece. I mean getting up on the high dive
at Miami and jumping off and you know all that
o it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, when he showed up at the midnight yell at
Kyle Field before the Miami game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Right, I mean, that's his his deal. So the roles
are clearly defined on that. And in some cases with
the college day game day for basketball all for them,
Jay billis uh, you know, and and then of course
Marce Davis is there, and then Andre Carter we talked about.

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I mean they're they all and and Seth Greenberg the coach,
they all have excellent frame of references that they're coming from.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
He got a little egg on his face. Seth Greenberg.
I think he all but picked Alabama to beat Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Yeah that good. That was a thumping. Yeah, that was
a thumping there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
And then, uh, like I said, there's there's other roles.
I saw some some of the Texas Tech Kansas came
last night. I didn't see it all, didn't even see
the majority of it. Why I had my my entertainment,
I tuned to the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show. I
don't miss it. I watch it every year, even if

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at the after DVR. And of course last night they
had the non sporting group. Uh, they had trying to
remember all of the other groups, the hurting group, I think,
the toy group, the toy group, and so we get
the terriers. Yeah, now tonight you have the terriers, you
have the working group, and there's one other one sporting

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I think tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
And then non sporting, which is the miscellaneous.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
That was last night, the non sporting and and I uh,
I'm really interested tonight because as the owner of a Schnauzer,
I like to say them, you know, I'd like to
see the working group in the terrier group. And a
giant snouncer won last year one the whole thing. So
I was watching that. But then you couldn't help but
notice the analyst on the telecast was as good an

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analyst in any sporting event or entertainment event as you
can find.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I forgot his name. He's tremendous.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
The I don't want to say play by play guy,
but the lead broadcaster on it was Chris Myers and
Chris Myers. You know, he does some NASCAR, he does football,
he does some baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
He does the worst NFL game of the week.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
He does And I think he was miscast last night
too on that. Jamie Little did a good job on
the floor with it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
But yeah, but anyway, David Frye, yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Is tremendous what he knows about those dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
I feel that way about when you watch the Winter Olympics.
That the second day this week I brought up the biathlon.
Chad Salmolo is terrific.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Yeah, there's certain people. Who's the guy whos in the
Tour de France forever? It's just great.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Oh, I don't know. I feel that way about Rowdy
Gaines on swimming too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah, yeah, there you go, good pairing with Dan Hicks
on that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Yeah, there's certain certain groups and certain announcers that are
meant for those events. I don't know that that necessarily
applies to Chris Myers, but maybe it's it's the first
time I remember seeing him on Westminster. But doesn't matter,
doesn't ruin my beautiful Doug.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Is his coat always like that? Or do they I mean,
like regular dude questions?

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
And I'm sure they gave him files on each group
and each dog.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
And each breath and all that sort of stuff. Well
does he does he like when you put the hand
in his mouth?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yeah, yeah, that kind of thing. All right, we'll be
back to wrap about number two. I'm thirteen under the
Zone for an in final hour of the program here
on Sports made a thirteen under the Zone Craig Way
alongside the producer Jay Kerman. We'll be done at five o'clock,

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as we invariably are two to five on Mondays through Friday.
At five o'clock is Bucky and BK. In case you
didn't hear about it, Bucky Godbolt, Rad Kellner back on
the Zone. We're happy to have them back as part
of our iHeartRadio family, and they started up yesterday. You
will hear from them most days from five to seven.

(01:06:28):
The days that you won't hear them from five to seven,
you'll hear shorter versions of their programming when we have
long worn games or later on Round Rock Express games
in the spring and of the summer, but mainly when
we have long worn games like basketball. Tonight, it's a
six o'clock tip off, so it's a five thirty airtime,
so Bucky Bka will go thirty minutes with you from

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five to five thirty and then at five thirty our
pregame start time and the tip off at six Texas
against South Carolina. We have more on that coming up
next segment, and we're also going to hear more from
Sean Miller.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Next segment on that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
This is busy week, just to keep you update on that,
and it's a busy home week. That's a good thing
for those of us who spent a lot of January
on the road a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
And us includes the host, Craig Way.

Speaker 13 (01:07:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yeah, yeah, so it was a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
It was a.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Lot getting those miles.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Well, most of the time I'm on the charter with
the team, so the times that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
I had, well, the miles you get often right are
you're when you've got to get from a men's to
a women's game overnight? That is mind boggling to me.
I didn't think about that stuff before I started working
with you. How does it get okay?

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Wow? Is it overnight drive? Yeah? I haven't really had
to do much of that until this year. And in
the month of January we had two situations. One when
the men won that big Saturday night game at Alabama,
and the women were playing the next day at two
o'clock in Baton Rouge. And it's not that I'm a

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glutton for punishment or just or married to the road
and driving.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I don't mind road trips. In fact, I married a
woman who really enjoys the road trips.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
She doesn't mind much. On our vacations. The last few
years we've driven to North Carolina and it worked out also.
I mean, if we're being completely honest here, in twenty
twenty two, it was kind of important that we drive
because we were getting married at Myrtle Beach at the
Dunes Club. Well, we wanted to safely transport her wedding dress,

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so it was most safely transport by hanging up in
the back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
On a hook there in the truck.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Now, that doesn't preclude stupidity on the part of yours truly,
who actually drove off from the hotel we stayed on
the weekend leading into the wedding. We got married on
a Sunday evening, July tenth of twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
There in Myrtle.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
But we got down there a couple of days in advance,
and we were standing in a hotel on the beach,
and then we were moving into a house that we
that we had rented for the week, so that was
gonna be on Saturday, because you rent Saturday to Saturday.
So we got down there like on a Thursday night,
and we went out at the dinner Friday night. So
we stayed two nights in this hotel. We get up
Saturday and we drive, we check out the hotel, We

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get maybe fortunately it was only about ten minutes down
the road, and it hit me. I left the wedding
dress hanging in the closet in the hotel room.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Craig, it was up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
To me because she was carrying other things. She said,
can you get my dresses to get fine? Now she
got a laughingly kind of kicks herself about how she
didn't even notice that we pulled out without a hanging
in the back. But I totally forgot it the loading stuff.
We get ten minutes down the run. I went, oh, no,
it just held out. She's like, what it's got like
sometimes when you're editing and all of a sudden you
give out a gutturall spot. But I'm like, what You're like, Oh,

(01:10:03):
it's no big deal, It's just this, but I was like,
your wedding dress, turn around, went back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Fortunately it was still hanging in the closet day and
haven't even made up the room yet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
But we had to get a key and get back
in there to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Had one job. I had one job.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
On that actually had several jobs, but that was the
most important of those.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
So we went back and we got the dress.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Does gutturall sound stay on the cutting room floor?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Fortunately. So she likes driving. We made a lot last year.
It made sense to do it because we were driving
from Myrtle Beach to Atlanta for.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
SEC Football Media Days.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
That's a six hour drive, so on the way back
after we checked out, we're on our way back and
we stopped in Atlanta for four days for SEC Media
Days and then come on home. We're trying to fashion
something similar this year. SEC Football Media Days in July
are going to be in Tampa, so we're trying to
figure out we're gonna We're gonna start off one week
up on the North Carolina coast. My oldest son is

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also getting married in Myrtle Beach. I said when he
told me they were going to do that, I said,
you have no originality. You got to copy the old
man on everything. But it made sense. His bride to
be is from Wisconsin, and of course he grew up
here in the area, and it was going to be
uber expensive to do a wedding down here, and they
didn't want to get married in Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
They said, let's do a destination wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
They've been to the beach with us before, they liked it,
so they're going to do a different place from where
Lynn and I tied the knot. But anyway, so we're
going up there for a week. But then that second
week of vacation, you got to figure out how we're
going to, where we're going to go or whatever to
lead into getting to Tampa for SEC media Day. So
there's that's we don't mind the drive. And back to

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the original point. We had two situations in the month
of January where the men had a game and then
the women had a game the very next day or night.
So with the Alabama game, the men won on Saturday night,
and there was Sunday afternoon game in Baton Rouge.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
So I decided rather than.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Fly home with the men and then risk any kind
of a flight delay trying to fly on Sunday morning
to Baton Rouge with a two o'clock tip off. It
would just be easier if I drove the four and
a half hours Saturday night, and I did. I did
one dumb thing, though, again leaving something behind. It wasn't

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entirely my fault, but it was about eighty percent my fault.
We have a wireless microphone and a wireless transmitter that
we broadcast so fans who travel can hear a broadcast
in the opposing stadium or arena, and it was going
to take that. Even though we don't use it so
much on the men, we use it a lot on
the women. We have a lot of the women's basketball

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fans who really appreciate when we can do it. And
so we took wireless mic because sometimes I'll do the
wireless mic interviews on the floor like I do at
home games. Wasn't going to need that for Baton Rouge
because we were set up court side, so somebody just
walks over and puts on my headset. We were right
beside the bench, but the wireless the road radio transmitter

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was in there. Cameron Parker has it all packed up
in a nice, neat little case and brought it over
and set it down for me to take. He pointed
it out to me, but it was on a table
behind us, and I was trying in a hurry to
help them get packed up and get to the bus
in times so they wouldn't get left. Then I leave
totally forgetting because that's not something I normally take with me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Totally forgot it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Didn't think about it until a couple of days or
the next day, and so then I called Chris Stewart,
my play by play counterpart at Alabama, good dude, and said, hey,
any chance he need to make a check inside of
Coleman Coliseum to see, you know, what might be the

(01:13:55):
case and if that case is there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
So he did.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
He had people checking, They found it, and I said,
I'll tell you what, if you'll hold on I really
don't need it for about two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
If you'll hold on to it when.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Texas plays at Auburn, I'll drive up the Tuscaloosa and
pick it up morning of the game. And so they
did so last Wednesday when we were in Auburn, I
drove the two hours plus up the Tuscaloosa. They had
the case, gave it to me, and I drove back,
did the game, and then I took it on the
games full and used it there in Florida and everything
was fine. So we have that back so every now

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and then. The point of all this is that, you know,
as my dad used to say, I'm thinking about so
many different things. I'm not concentrating on the thing in
hand and have my head up my rear. That happens,
It happens.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Broadcasters are good multitaskers usually. I mean I'm not a
great multitasker.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Yeah, yeah, so it does. It does happen that way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
All right, let's hear from the Super Bowl head coaches
and quarterbacks. Mike vrabel is the head coach of the
New England Patriots, and of course he's played in this
game as a player for Bill Belichick, so with everything
that is a part of that, what does he tell
his team in preparation.

Speaker 5 (01:15:06):
I think we just focused on some of the keys,
and you know, we've addressed some of those things. We'll
work on the halftime later in the week and the
length of halftime and how we'll do that. But I
think you try to keep it as normal as you
possibly can as far as the preparation. I think we'll
have to, you know, ramp up some situational football that
that may you know, come into play here in this

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football game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Yeah, all right, So there's that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
And then there's Mike McDonald, who of course grew up
a Patriots fan, but as the coach of the Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Seahawks, and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
It's being described as the move of the year, them
getting Sam Darnold and here they are in the super Bowl, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
He was asked if he was surprised that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Donald was available given the outstanding season he had the
Vikings a year ago, and so what pushed him there
into the mindset that they needed to sign him.

Speaker 7 (01:15:59):
That's funny when you asked, like are you surprised or
we expected about things, It's kind of like, it's really
not how.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
We operate where you you're.

Speaker 7 (01:16:04):
Really thinking about what are the decisions we have to
make right now that are going to help our team
the most. And so as those things transpired in the
off season, I think, you know, to too many people,
it seem like it happened fast, and you know, it
happened over the course a couple of days. But for us,
it was really just a series of decisions we had
to make. John deserves a ton of credit for navigating
us and guiding us through those times. And uh, and

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we're really I'll put it this way, we're really excited
that he was available. And uh and I felt like
it was a great kind of match from when that
process started and I'm really happy that it worked out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Yeah, all right, So, speaking of Sam Darnold, his quarterback
and counterpart in this game, Drake May was asked for
his thoughts on the career journey that Donald has traversed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
A big fan of Sam.

Speaker 11 (01:16:47):
What a journey, what a what a career he's had,
just to battle the the life of the NFL and
knowing that, you know, his first opportunity obviously he got
put in the scenario where you know, they've met, they
decided to move on, and from there he's made him pay.
Ever since he's battled of you know, not playing for
years and being the backup to getting his chance and
just making the most of it. It's been awesome to see, Uh,

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just what this side of you know, such a great
story on the side of the league that you know,
people think that, you know, what makes the league so special.
It's it's stories like Sam that just put his head down,
works hard. It's turned to one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And I've got to know him a
little bit. He's a great dude. He's he's one of
the you know, the best dudes I've met. And he's
you know, looking forward to seeing him on Sunday and
seeing him do his thing and and uh, but us
the same time competing against him.

Speaker 9 (01:17:29):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
He was also asked if there is a quarterback that
he likes to pattern his game after that he idolies,
or that he really tries to emulate.

Speaker 11 (01:17:38):
Kind of the first thing that comes to mind, you know,
as a young middle schooler who just you know, fell
in no position with be Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I was a big fan of Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 11 (01:17:47):
I've got a chance to play him a few times,
and uh, just how he's treated me, and you know,
he reached out to me after the game. And he's,
you know, such a special flower of the football. He's
got so much swag. He's uh, just a different It's
different when you see him in warm ups throwing the
football and just how I I've heard from teammates of
his and coaches of his, how he you know, tweets

(01:18:08):
others and cares about others inside the facility.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Is a uh is a special that's a big fan of.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
His all right now. From the files of the Mutual
Admiration Society. Sam Darnold, the Seahawks quarterback, was asked for
his thoughts about Drake May, the Patriots quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
No disencouragement. No, Drake's a great guy.

Speaker 12 (01:18:25):
I was able to spend a little bit of time
with him at the Pro Bowl last year, and you know,
he's a great guy, you know. And Michael his his
wife is awesome as well. So yeah, they just got
a you know, great, great family over there going right now.
And and Drake's Drake's a great dude, you know. Like
I said, was able to was able to hang out
with him for a little bit. So he's a great guy.

(01:18:46):
Obviously a great football player, and it seems like he's
a great leader as well for his team.

Speaker 6 (01:18:49):
So I can't say enough good things about Drake.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Okay, now there's one other thing I got to tell you.
I was watching I think it was Good Morning Football
over Time, the show on the NFL network. It's it
All so errors simultaneously on KBVO on Channel fifty one
here in the Austin area, and among the cast of characters,
I mean, Jamie Ardoll is there and Schrager and then

(01:19:16):
Kyle Brandt, Kyle Brandt, Schrager went the ESPN, Kyle Brandt,
man Titea is there, and my buddy and broadcast partner
on state high school championship games, Isaiah Stanback, who works
Cowboys preseason games and does a lot of the Cowboys program.
In fact, I'm going to see if I get Jay
on with us before this week is done, get his

(01:19:37):
thoughts on the Super Bowl. So they were addressing a
topic yesterday about what question would you ask on Super
Bowl Opening Night?

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
And there's all sorts of the goofy and this and
that and what you were player.

Speaker 9 (01:19:51):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Then they got into talking about the one yard line
play the last time the Patriots and Seahawks met in
the Super Bowl and the interception thrown there at the
goal line by Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Trying to remember who picked it off in the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Malcolm Butler, Malcolm Butler.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
And you know, would you hand it to Marshawn Lynch
if you did it? You know that sort of thing,
and you know, should they have handed it whatever? Isaiah said,
tonight on Super Bowl. That would be a question that
I would ask the quarterbacks if you're at the one
yard line, are you throwing or are you going to
hand it off? And sure enough somebody asked Sam Darnold,

(01:20:35):
what would you do if you're on the one yard
line in the final seconds in the same situation as
the Super Bowl eleven years ago between Seattle and New England?

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
How many time out? How many timeouts do we have?
What's the situation?

Speaker 6 (01:20:48):
Do we have any timeouts? No timeouts?

Speaker 12 (01:20:54):
I know that's the sort of subject for a lot
of people, but uh, we'll say we'll say pass, no timeouts,
no timeouts.

Speaker 6 (01:21:01):
You don't want to get stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:21:02):
Maybe you run it and you get on the ball
and throw it really quickly after that if you don't
make it. But it's tough to get those big guys
back up after being down there on the one yard
line and getting back and you know, on the line
of scrimmage. So thirty seconds left on the one yard line,
that's a great question. As a quarterback, I got to say.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Pass though, Wow, double down, he'd given it some fought,
Mike McDonald said, is bestbo to the backfield?

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
See there you go because he had Marshawn Lynch back
there and they didn't hand it. Everybody said, why didn't
you just handed the bee smug? Why didn't you just
do that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
And you know all season long the Seahawks use Zach
Sharbonay on the goal line. He's not going to be
available now whether that was the right guy to use
on the goal line, ask me a Kenneth Walker, fantasy
football owner. I would say no, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Dapple's also the Super Bowl where Marshawn Lynch kept. The
only thing he said a media days is I'm just here,
saw I won't get fined. Every answer and he would say,
with different inflections, I'm just here so I won't get fine.
Just here so I won't get fine. I'm just here
so it won't get fine. And that was his answer
to every single question. I'm just because Thurman Thomas skipped

(01:22:08):
it one year and got fine. I think ten thousand
dollars for skipping it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
So what was that the fourth year in a row?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Probably I was thinking it was. I know he was
there the first meeting with Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
I was thinking it might have been the Washington game,
although that was when he left it forgot his helmet,
couldn't find his helmet, it had gotten moved, trying to remember,
but anyway, so it's some thought had clearly gone into that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
For Sam Darnold about what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
I think you run the ball if you've got thirty
seconds left, But if you don't get it, you better
get up. And it also depends on what down. If
it's first in goal or even second in goal, you
could run it. If you don't get it, you better
spike it to kill it there and give yourself at
least one more down, if not two.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Maybe the answer is running its hush push could be
this Dayna, that's tape to get the play band once
and for all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Yeah, Mike, did they win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
We couldn't see it. We couldn't overturn, couldn't tell.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
All right, Coming up more on long worn basketball when
we continue here on Sports Radio AM thirteen under the
zone of the iHeartRadio apps.

Speaker 8 (01:23:15):
The Big I'm falling in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Love once again, the King George Street and the number
one you're hitting us with.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
The Big One felt right for a few reasons today.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
The big One. Coming up, you got the Richter scale
line at an earthquake. Find an earthquake in San Francisco already.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
It's true.

Speaker 9 (01:23:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
And of course the King's coming back shows in April,
and Moody's.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
His last show again.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Yes, yeah, he's gonna wind up out dueling the Who
for most big but his his comeact. He just doesn't
emits and pieces. He doesn't do a full blown, full
blown out, full scale tour like that he does.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
Honestly, I thought he looked and sounded great when I
saw him five years ago. It was the ace in
the whole band that was maybe, you know, needing some
breaks and some ice packs.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Yeah, yeah, he's fine and uh and I think I'm
pretty busy that weekend, but I'm gonna see if I
can kind of work it around.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
I'd like to.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
I've seen him a couple of times. We'd like to
see him again. I'm gonna seeing a long worn basketball
team tonight. They get ready to take on the game
Cocks of South Carolina. And as Texas prepares to take
on this South Carolina team, you say, well, you know,
what's what's their deal? Well, they're eleven and eleven and
they're two and seven in the conference, so you'd say, oh, Okay,

(01:24:42):
well this should be an easy victory. But we also
know in this up and down season for Texas, while
trying to find the consistent level of play, they it's
been one step forward, two steps back. For a little bit.
Lately it's been two fourd and one back. They're at
four and five at the midway mark of conference play.
Safe to say these are games you really have to
win if you're going to increase your NCAA tournament profile.

(01:25:07):
So with that in mind, Longhorn's head coach Sean Miller
was talking about how at times his team can really
go through stretches of play, but they get on big
runs and they can look dominant at times and the
importance of trying to latch onto that and add.

Speaker 10 (01:25:24):
To that, well, I think what you're referencing is, you
know when you have a really efficient offensive group and
you know, obviously players have to make the plays, doesn't
matter if you're a guy coming in off the bench
or you're starting. But you know, when you have an
efficiency where you know you're scoring and you're getting fouled,
and you're taking great care of the ball and you
do it through long stretches, Now that's when you can say,

(01:25:46):
you know it just it feels right. I think that,
you know, for us to capture that and keep it
and allow us to have that down the stretch here
these next pivotal four or five weeks, you know, we
have to attach even better defense to it. You know,
I think what to me gives me a lot of
confidence is sometimes we've been able to score and get

(01:26:08):
fouled in spite of our defense. And usually those two
things are tied to each other. You know, you get
big stops, you get a block shot, you force a turnover,
you get a defensive rebound, you push it with force,
and you have a transition and pace. You know that
offense is much more difficult for the defense to defend.
There's a lot of times when you watch us play
that teams scoring, teams getting fouled that we have to

(01:26:31):
rebound the ball off of a made free throw, inbound
the ball off to a made free throw, right, So like,
it's not as easy for us to score against a
set defense, but yet we've been able to do that.
So I think that, you know, like I mentioned a
few minutes ago, we have to be judged by who
we are today on defense and what we become how
much can we improve that side of the ball that

(01:26:53):
determines our.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Fate next coach Miller has asked about is there something
that he hopes to be able to accomplish with the
group off the court, away from the action.

Speaker 10 (01:27:07):
I think you accomplish things along the way off the court,
not only collectively as a team. And then as you
build a program, you know, multiple teams, same place, same coach,
same staff.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
You know, there are a lot of lessons.

Speaker 10 (01:27:22):
Along the way that you learn as a group and
also as an individual. So you know, my hope isn't
you know that it's one thing, but it's a myriad
of a lot of different experiences where players learn, you know,
how to handle adversity, how to work together.

Speaker 6 (01:27:39):
Just those two things.

Speaker 10 (01:27:40):
If you just think about being able to learn through
failure and how to handle failure and grow from it
and make it a good thing, and being able to
work with, you know, people from all walks of life,
different areas, new coach, new staff, different teammates, and you
learn how to be in sync to accomplished things together.

(01:28:01):
You know, being a part of something that's just bigger
than yourself. And that's the essence of sports. I think
that happens, that happens daily, that happens weekly. So you know,
my thought is that the collection of a season, when
it all ends, every one of our players should be
able to call on those types of experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Next up, of course, is the South Carolina game Cocks.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
This is a team that averages seventy seven points per game,
and they have outscored their opponents even though they're level
five hundred. The rebounding edge goes to their opponents a
little bit, but the turnovers are pretty even. They're pretty
close on steals, they're pretty close on In fact, they're
identical on their field goal percentage as well as their

(01:28:48):
opponent's field goal percentage.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
So in short, Sean Miller has asked.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
About this team, looking at them on the digital cutups
on video, how this is a team can really sneak
up on you.

Speaker 10 (01:29:02):
Yeah, I mean, I think the first part is you
just you can't take that mentality of allowing anybody to,
you know, sneak up on us, right, I mean, because
it's such a great conference from top to bottom, it's
the strongest conference in the country. That's not my opinion.
I think that's the facts of the matter. You know,
there's just there's no easy out here. A year ago,
when I was the head coach at Xavier, we played

(01:29:23):
against lamont in South Carolina in Florida in a tournament
in November, and you know you played those non conference games.
It was a great, great game. We ended up pulling
away at the very end. And I remember thinking, like,
South Carolina is a tough team. And then you watched
in the sec that you know they they they were
more towards the bottom. But I remember thinking like, wow,

(01:29:46):
that was a really difficult game. And so fast forward
to this year, there isn't a lot of separation between teams.
A lot of times it's it's a single play, it's
it's an injury. You know, it's a final segment of
a game that determines a loss from a close win.

Speaker 6 (01:30:04):
And you know South Carolina.

Speaker 10 (01:30:05):
Very well coached, deliberate in their attack, cohesive on defense,
man and man, tough minded, fundamentally sound on defense. Johnson,
who's one of the most experienced guards in the country.
You know, on a given night, just by him getting
to the free throw line and just the way they play,
he can wear a team out by himself. So when

(01:30:27):
they've won, they are a dangerous team from the three
point line and their five position can really shoot the
ball from three. So we just have to be at
our best period. I think it's like a nameless, faceless league.
You know, you're just on your end, your preparation, your readiness,
how you attack the game, how you play.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
You got to be at your best.

Speaker 10 (01:30:47):
And the more you can be at your best, the
better opportunity you have for success. So the only thing
that's different about this week is we have back to
back home games.

Speaker 6 (01:30:56):
Other than that, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:30:57):
I think we have to look at this this is
an SEC team, we all know what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
And then taking on this South Carolina team. You know,
almost every game in the second in the last gosh
three weeks, almost every game the opponent for the Longhorns
has had not one, but two backcourt threats. That was
the case with Oklahoma, it was the case with Vanderbilt.

(01:31:29):
It was the case with Tennessee, It was the case
with Auburn, it was the case with Georgia, even with
Mississippi State.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
So this goes back a.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Little bit and in Michie Johnson, the Ohio State transfer,
averages sixteen points per game, and Kobe Knox, who's been
hot from three point range. There's a couple of guards
again who can cause a team trouble. So in getting
ready for this here, he is getting ready for a

(01:32:03):
team whose record is not that impressive, but a team
that can do some damage. So coming off the win
against Oklahoma and getting ready for this game against South Carolina,
game that if you want to get where you need
to get, you really need to win. And the same
thing on a little larger scale on Saturday when Old

(01:32:23):
Miss comes to town. How big is this week in
the big picture of the season.

Speaker 10 (01:32:29):
Yeah, I mean the president for US is Moody Center.
Back to back home games. You know, this game tomorrow
night is tricky for us because, as you guys have
followed us closely, you know, you kind of go Georgia
at home and then you're at Auburn. You get home
really late Thursday morning, then you know we're one o'clock
game at Oklahoma, and then boom, now you're Tuesday, not Wednesday,

(01:32:52):
Tuesday at home against South Carolina. So it's a lot
of games, a quick stretch of games. Have to be
ready for every one of these opportunities, and then you know,
on the heels of that. Obviously you got old miss
coming in here on Saturday. But I'm glad that we're
at home. I'm excited about seeing our students in our crowd.
Moody Center has been great for us. And you know,

(01:33:14):
usually when you get into this month of February and
March madness is right around the corner, you have the
opportunity to have your best home crowds of the season
and really open that we could be at our best
for our home crowd.

Speaker 6 (01:33:26):
We can work together to have a great week ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
So there it is the thoughts from Sean Miller, the
Longhorns head coach. And again you'll hear the game this
evening on thirteen hundred the Zone again, just giving you
the rundown on this. Coming up at the top of
the hour will be Bucky and BK. Bucky got Bolt,
Brad Keller. That's right, they're back on the zone. Started
up yesterday. Thrilled to have them back. Normally, they'll go

(01:33:51):
five to seven for you because we have an early
start time just thirty minutes from them today from five
to five thirty. Then we have the pre game at
five thirty and the tip off at six o'clock. Six
oh one. To be exact, it's exactly a six' oh
one tip. Tonight i'll be, Ready no five, minutes, sly
none of that. Stuff it's going at six oh. One

(01:34:14):
so we've got that for you coming up, Tonight texas
And South. CAROLINER i remember last year the Long wrecks
were thought to be better as, well and the Game
cocks thumped, them beat them by like fifteen and it
really wasn't even that. Close kind of dominated the. Game,
yeah that was that was a low. Point, yeah it.
Was it was definitely a low point of the. Season
they kind of picked themselves off the, mat uh and
got their act back together enough to get into THE ncaa,

(01:34:37):
tournament but they couldn't Beat Sean miller And xavier in
the first. Round and you, know if you can't beat,
them have them join you and uh late Peaking Sean miller. Team,
Yeah longhorn fans hope that's the case again this. Year,
absolutely and we're seeing signs of. It but well we
see enough of it down the stretch tonight they tell
some of that. Story we have more coming up when
we continue on. Thirteen under the.

Speaker 6 (01:34:57):
Zone just back at s sleep two.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Sounds Like Jay carman has found Another texas there for
Our Texan, Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Corey morrow The Men live From, austin including our theme
Of West Coast Bay area covers today went f the
devil from?

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
There go all, right, absolutely let's hear some more From Vick,
schaeffer The texas women's head, coach and come off that
big win Against oklahom and it was. Big it's a
top ten, win by the, way you. Know so there's
another top ten. Win they face a top five program
On thursday. NIGHT lsu is up to number. Five and
REMEMBER lsu Beat. Texas it's one of the long wrens

(01:35:36):
only two losses this. Season in, fact it was their
first loss when they lost down In. Battery so the
rematch Is thursday night at eight. O'clock but in looking
back on the win Over, oklahoma one thing That Vic
schafer's team has done a good job of is limiting
the opposing team's post. Play even in the losses The
South carolina AND, lsu they did a good job of.

(01:35:58):
That and they did a good job limiting the outstanding
post player For, Oklahoma Reagan, beers and the touches she
was able to.

Speaker 9 (01:36:05):
Get, YEAH i Think brea And kyla did a nice
job limiting her. Touches she's a load down. There i'm
more concerned about our fives getting six. Touches we were
two for six down there when we played them last
year In norman and beat. Them our two five players were.
Dominant we they HAD i don't, Know i'd have to

(01:36:29):
go back and, look but it was close to twenty
touches If i'm not, mistaken twenty shots Between taylor And
kai and.

Speaker 4 (01:36:37):
So but they did a phenomenal job on.

Speaker 9 (01:36:40):
HER a lot, again a lot of respect and admiration for,
her and she's, tough hard to deal. With AND i
thought our bigs were really good. TODAY i thought their
technique was. Good BUT i also think our guards do
a great job of playing post defense thirty feet from the.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
Rim we talked about that all the.

Speaker 9 (01:36:57):
Time you, know it's not just up to those kids
down there in the hole that are trying to guard those.
Bigs it's the pressure that you put on the. Perimeter
we forced twenty one. Turnovers, again that's that's pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Good when the game, ended and there's a great deal
of excitement on the floor On, sunday And vic does
this every game home or road doesn't. Matter he gathers
the team around and says something to, them whether they've
won it or lost. It he did it after the
losses AT lsu and At South, carolina but a lot

(01:37:33):
of the media weren't there for, that so they were
naturally curious when he was in the huddle with them
after the. Game what exactly he told the team in
that postgame huddle on the.

Speaker 9 (01:37:45):
Floor, WELL i just again want them to know how
PROUD i am of. Him that's a, hard you, know,
tough tough game.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
Today.

Speaker 9 (01:37:51):
Lot you, know that team was relentless that we played.
Against we played so well the first. Half we didn't
finish the game the way we know we need to finish.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
Game but yet it's still a win AND i want
them to enjoy.

Speaker 9 (01:38:02):
IT i, mean they competed their tail off today and
LIKE i told, y'all win is really. Hard SO i
want them to, Know, man that's a great. Win i'm
proud of. Them it's another top ten win for, us
and those things are important and it allows us to
keep all our goals in front of.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
Us SO i just want them to know. THAT i
want them to enjoy.

Speaker 9 (01:38:22):
It they get the day off, tomorrow you, know they
they've earned, that they need. It BUT i thought they you,
know we might have had some moments where we might
have stubbed our toe a little, bit but that's part
of the rub of the.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
Game you.

Speaker 9 (01:38:38):
KNOW i want them to look like they look the
whole first half for two, halves, Right that's that's what
a coach. Wants but the rub of the game a
lot of times doesn't allow you to do. That and
So i'm really proud of. Them that's and, Again oklahoma never,
quits like they just keep coming at. You And jinny
does a great job with those. Kids and you, know
we talked about. That those, kids they just keep coming

(01:39:01):
and give them, credit you, know they that's always how
that team has. Been and, uh and so you've got
to you've gotta be ready when you play, them because
they can go through are a stretch where maybe things
aren't going well for, them and then next thing you,
know it's, bang bang, bang back to back to back
threes and they're right back in.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
It one more From Vic. Schaeffer Justice carlton had nine
points in the first. Court she had a big game For,
texas and, uh we visited with. Her we are we
visited With Vic schaeffer talking about her game after the
after the, game and he talked about how she's just
really starting to ramp up her. Game, ALSO espn did

(01:39:41):
a big thing in talking about it was on the
college Game, day how she makes cookies and then we're,
cookies then we're sent out to the college Game day.
Host So vic was, ASKED. A is he still just
scratching the surface of her? Game AND b has he
sampled any of her.

Speaker 9 (01:39:54):
Cookies i've sampled the cookies and they're they're. Worthy and
and her you, know her, game you know, again it's
she knows that the only the thing that hinders her
is just playing. Hard like IF i can get her
player guts, out she's pretty. Talented and you, KNOW i

(01:40:15):
think her teammates would. AGREE i think when you're, young
you think you're playing, hard and then you go look
at the film and you're.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
Like, EH i don't GUESS i was playing.

Speaker 9 (01:40:26):
Very hard, There you're, right you, Know and but in
the heat of the, moment you're, like, what, What why.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
Is coach so? Mad why is he?

Speaker 9 (01:40:33):
Upset Why i'm Playing cleary prey? Hard, well then you
go back and look at the film and the Film Don't,
Lie and SO i think for her it's you, know
she's got to know these two sitting up here talking
about her should mean a lot to. Her but, again
it's another kid coming off of a knee. Injury it
always takes a. Year we're now in year two with,
her AND i think that's you, know she seems to

(01:40:56):
thrive in contests where the other team has a really,
fit physical four. Player you, know she did a nice
job when we Played South carolina the first time. TONIGHT
i have tremendous respect For Sahara. Williams that kid beat
me here two years. Ago and so she seems to
thrive in that challenging moment knowing, That, OKAY i got

(01:41:20):
to be because she's that's the thing she brings to the.
Table she's, tough she's. Physical you, KNOW i said this
WHEN i recruited. Her she's the most physical high school
Player i've ever. SEEN i, means she'll go absolutely through
your breastplate and won't even think twice about, it getting
to the rim to a fault sometimes because she'll run over.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
People but she's just, physical you, Know.

Speaker 9 (01:41:42):
And SO i think, again hersha hearing her teammates talk
about her and, understanding and you, know tonight she, played
she made an, impact she impacted the game and played really.

Speaker 4 (01:41:53):
Hard fouled, out but that's, okay you, know but they're.

Speaker 9 (01:42:00):
Right we need, her we need her to be like
she is. Tonight and that's the thing with young. Players
it's the. Consistency that's What i'm searching for with, her
and that's every. Day it's not just in, games it's
consistency and. Practice you, know your game is a really
reflection of what you put into it each and every,
day and if you're not making a deposit every, day

(01:42:24):
it's hard to reach your full. Potential AND i think
that's our challenge with. Her she was really special, night
hit a big three in the first, half got on the.
Boards she's hard to deal. With you get her around
the room, now she's really hard to deal.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
With so the next action with The texas Women thursday
night against fifth rank TEL, usu number four in the,
country number five in the.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Country what a. Matchup we'll have it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
For you seven forty, five the pregame start, time the
tip off at eight. O'clock we'll be back to wrap
up today's program here on thirteen under The zone

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