Texas' CFP Chances Fade, Vandegrift-Dripping Springs and other HSFB Quarterfinals with Roger Wallace
December 5, 2025 • 20 mins
KXAN's Roger Wallace joins the show to discuss the Texas Longhorns' status on the outside looking in when it comes to this year's College Football Playoff.
Roger and Craig preview several high school football quarterfinal matchups, including Vandegrift's historic rematch with Dripping Springs and Lake Travis' tilt with San Antonio Johnson.
Roger and Craig preview several high school football quarterfinal matchups, including Vandegrift's historic rematch with Dripping Springs and Lake Travis' tilt with San Antonio Johnson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To say on right Uai and Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That's in the island, greeting that we send you from
the land where palm trees. Hearing all that Christmas will
be green and why the sun will shine by day
and all.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The stars night is a wise way.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The same Americans take a girl.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So here we are on this Friday, And normally I
do say normally that because we're we're in the single
digit days in December, normally it's a little early for
me to be bumping back with the Christmas music there.
But listen, there there's a specific reason for that, because
(00:58):
this isn't the being crossed the edition of medleg Leaky Mockett. No,
it's one and only Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
He does a pretty good rendition of it. Of course, if.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We're bumping back with Jimmy Buffet, that means we're visiting
you with Roger Wallace, my broadcast partner long Range Football
and also works with us on men's women's basketball and
baseball and sports director and his day job at k
x A and Joe. Is it safe to say that
you have this particular rendition somewhere in your playlist? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, he's got a he's a whole Christmas album Christmas Island.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So you have the Christmas Highland then I do.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And he's got some originals along with some obvious covers.
Yeah but oh yeah we uh he's singing it, We've
got it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well that's the one that that's the one I think
that's most recognized that he does cover. What is is
there another one that you favor of his? Not not
an original but a cover?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Uh? I have to think about that. You kind of
surprised me with the Buffet Christmas music? Uh right, Christmas? Well,
the one the name of out the covernet, the title
track Christmas Island is pretty good because you can imagine
that's that's got his uh his spin on it. But
uh yeah, I'm I'm down with whatever he he sings
(02:24):
with with the holiday music. I'm not a huge holiday
music guy. So he's a good he's a good compromise
because I can always find a good reason to to
listen to some Buffett and you know, the Christmas Baby,
so he is Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
My family doesn't think it's very funny when every Christmas
morning I say let's celebrate Jimmy Buffy's birthday.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
They kind of they're kind.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Of worn out on that that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I have a brother, My younger brother was born on
Christmas Day, hence his name Chris and uh and uh
he always kind of we always kind of his kids
looked at us like he gets double the gifts, which.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
He kind of did. Uh and and he would say, yeah,
but nobody.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Remembers that it's my birthday on Christmas. Nobody remembers that
other than parents when he was younger, you know that
kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So I guess it is. It's yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think my mom I used to call her on
her birthday and joke about it. For celebrating Joe Montana's
birthday again today, there's another way to look at it.
I know you and I do the same thing where
a kid, we look up all the birthdays around our
famous you know, athletes and stuff around our birthday. Yes,
how about you, I'm a great one. I think Elgin
(03:38):
Baylor maybe or.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Is that on yours that's Elgin Baylor's. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That was the closest uh I got. I got the Pope,
by the way, I learned that the current so the
current one, yes, yes, oh wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Better than me. I got John Wilkes Booth. Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh okay, I think in addition to elgiin Baylor, I've
got Oral Hersheiser, Robin Yellnt and and then what's really cool,
the late Eartha Kit and bb.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
King nice wide range. I can't complain too much. I've
got Greg Maddox and Pete Rose. Well there you go,
all right, So there you have it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We asked Roger to hop on with us today this
afternoon to discuss more than birthdays or the holidays. But
I want to start really with the college football playoff thing.
Well we'll get to it, you know, we'll obviously see
who's in, who's out, and everybody's expecting obviously Texas to
not make the final cut.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
First of all, did you hear the Vic Schaefer.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Rant on this, because it's it's oh man, have I
gotten a lot of feedback on that, all positive people
loving it and all that kind of stuff. When he
said it's not even fruit to fruit, I think it was.
It was one of the comment and it's that sort
of thing. But I guess he's also Vic always has
a take on so many different things. But I guess
(05:05):
he's also expressing what a lot of folks feel. And
he just put it into a four minute, thirty seven
second rant.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think about it, so it's something else.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, if you if you listen to the it was
on the zoom before the North Carolina and if you
listen right afterwards you can hear so you're on the
fence about this.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That was That was me chiming in. He went through that. Yes,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Now even as Vic has weighed in on it, I
mean Sark, Sark gave some really good reasoning for why
Texas should be in it. By the time he came
into us and sat down and did the one on
one with me before the signing day news conference, I
got the vibe he made peace with it. Not happy
about it, but made peace with it given the way
(05:53):
it is.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, and he kind of had that in his news conference.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
He kind of felt that way.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And his final calm, I think on its second second
thought was got to win more games. And if they
value if you devalue losses more than you value wins,
or you ding teams for losses more, then clearly that three.
I've been saying it all along. I've been saying it
since they the Georgia game. The three, I think is
(06:21):
just gonna it's humans and they see the three and
an easy way just to say, all right, we'll take
them out of consideration because of the three.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, because you can't.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Argue with the wins, and you can't argue with the
non conference scheduling, and you have to I understand the
take on the Georgia game, and I'm you know, I
think it's somewhere in between where you know, it was
a fourth quarter game, Yes that's a fact, but it
was twenty one nothing in the fourth quarter and that
did happen, So you have to you know, it's a
sixty minute game.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's what everybody says. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, then in the end it was the score. It
was now, it was a close game for the better
part of what forty seven, forty eight, forty nine minutes,
but it got away from him and that didn't help,
you know, thirty five twenty eight, much different perception. But
still you're sitting there with those three losses, and it's
just it's an uphill climb from there.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I think.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
The other thing that caught my attention about this Roger
was Hunter Yurachek, the the Implanted Committee chairman, with mac
Rohade stepping away from it, was asked kind of point
blank on the on the conference call with the national
media after the selection show, if it was the Florida
(07:38):
loss or the Ohio State loss that was hurting Texas more.
And he didn't, he didn't mince any words. He said
it was the Florida loss. So and again the double
side of that argument, sark side is we didn't have
to play Ohio State. If we didn't play Ohio State,
if in other words, in his he didn't say this,
but if they played a Georgia State or somebody like that,
(07:59):
or you know, a cream puff or something like that,
and one handily, and to go back to his words, quote,
we wouldn't be having this conversation. The other side of that,
the folks that beat Florida and insert the words, we
wouldn't be having this conversation. So there's two ways of
looking at it. But when the committee chairman says it's
(08:19):
the Florida thing, you know how they're looking at it,
like you said the three the number three.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know we saw Florida against Florida State, so I've
seen you know, Okay, go down the list of comparisons
and what Florida State did to Alabama and then what
Florida did, and you know, if Alabama loses, they have
three losses and they kind of have that common thread there.
And Alabama lost to oh you and oh Texas beat OU.
(08:48):
But if they don't play Ohio State, then those four
games leading up to Florida looks so you know, looks
so bad because those three other non conference just the
way those teams, all those teams have had some success
in recent years that they played in that three game
stretch at home, but just so happened this year they
were all pretty bad. So then you're you're getting dinged
(09:09):
for the four games that you've played leading up to
the SEC saying basically you're just playing in SEC schedules.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So it's easy to.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Say that now because they played Ohio State, but if,
like you said, if they played a group of five team,
then all of a sudden, they're not even in the
thought process for four weeks other than OLUKHS Texas is
playing UH and they're just all they're doing is putting
all their eggs in the SEC basket.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Maybe that's enough.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't know, but I think everybody can counter anything
when when it comes to Texas, because they're kind of
a lightning rod school right now.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right on that. Uh And
and I want to I want to throw something else
at you and see what you think of this. I
got a series of texts last night from people. A
couple of them are friends from north of the Red Yes,
I do have friends north of the Red River. I
think all of us can admit to at least having
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one friend north of the Red River. And they're hearing
rumblings up there.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Maybe it's just because they're little lantcy until the final
thing comes out, but I think everybody's inn agreement that
Oklahoma safely in the field. But what they're hearing is
is that there's a very real possibility that the committee
may drop Oklahoma to number nine. And the reason that
they would drop them the number nine doesn't have to
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do with the wins and losses. They would drop them
the number nine because you see coming up that playoff
weekend is graduation weekend on the campus of the University
of Oklahoma, and there are no hotel rooms to be
had in Norman and very few in Oklahoma City, so
that that's something else that the committee has to take
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hundred it. Now, you and I have had enough experience
broadcasting baseball regions where this kind of your stuff kind
of happens a little bit, and football's on a much
larger scale, which is both a plus and a minus.
There you can say, wow, you know, they'd have more
hotel room, but on a graduation weekend, if they don't
have any hotels available in Norman, it's not like they
have a bunch anyway. And then if Oklahoma City's booked up, Mike,
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the committee put the Sooners on the road as a
result of about this as a nine seed.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That would be that would be incredible, And I would
hope they would be one hundred percent transparent about that,
because who are you going. They're not playing right, Notre
Dame's start playing. If BYU wins and Alabama wins, then
you can understand, I get oklhom beat Alabama. We've seen
other teams ahead of teams that beat them, So yeah,
(11:44):
I could see them jumping Alabama or BYU just because
they want a conference championship. But now would be that
would be something else if that happened, For for just
sheer logistics well, and.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Then here's the other thing too.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You know, remember what was it Indiana State couldn't host
a super region on based.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
When you brought this up. Yeah, yeah, it's happened.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And there's been a couple of other situations like that
as well over the years. But it made me think
when Hunter Yurchek the other night was asked by Rhees Davis,
and then he was asked again on that on that
national media conference call, is there a possibility that teams
who were idle couldn't move?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Last year?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
The answer was an unequivocal no from Ward Manual, the
Michigan ad was the chairman of the committee.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
This year.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
He said, you know, maybe, you know, yeah, it's possible
it could happen. And I wonder if that was part
of what was on the table for them, which they
have not yet brought to the surface, that yes, we
could have some idle teams move because Oklahoma has no
rooms at the end or something like that, you know,
but he wasn't gonna say that publicly. Made me wonder
(13:01):
about that though.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, and I'll go back to last year. Why would
you ever say something can't happen? You know, why would
you always leave the door open for well, well, we'll
see how it shakes out before you just, you know,
make a blanket statement that you've pit you backed yourself
into a bit of a corner because of a result
that that might happen, and and so yeah, I don't
(13:24):
I don't know why you would ever just say no,
that won't happen and pretty much lock some teams in,
UH because you know that we don't know the results,
and what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen? And in Arlington tomorrow,
what's gonna happen, you know, in in Atlanta tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Roger Wallace joining us here on sports Radio AM thirteen hundreds,
and all right, let's turn our attention to the high
school UH front. And before we get to the game
that that you and Keith Morland be calling tomorrow, let's
say we the area.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mentioned this.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And as you texted me last night as well, we
were both aligned with hearing about Mason falling.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
The Referio or Refurio.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Is the top team in two A Division one, so
that's no big surprise there, But there are some remaining
teams Alanto still out there and then of course Lake
Travis before we get to the other six A matchup,
and Lake Travis has San Antonio Johnson. I saw this
Johnson team play earlier this year. They are explosion. But
to me, I think the way Lake Travis has played defense,
(14:31):
that's how you win state championships. I've noticed over the years,
and they seem to have one of the best defenses
in the state.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, and I point to the game we're doing tomorrow
and Dripping Springs and the fact that Lake Travis beat
a team averaging over forty points a game, fourteen to seven.
So that tells me all I need to know about
that defense. We saw him in person against Brandeis back
a couple of weeks ago in Sam Marcus on a
(14:58):
rainy Thursday night, and and you know that they gave
up one big drive and then they kind of got
things under control. But I always go back to at
this time of year, I just trust to Lake Travis,
maybe a little bit more than a you know, you
look at what Johnson's done. They played a lot of
close ballgames and they seem like they have an explosive offense.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You've seen them in person.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I haven't, But I just trust Lake Travis probably a
little bit more when you're talking all things considered.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Okay, let's talk about this matchup you and Keith have tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's in that it is the first time ever been
it has been researched, first time ever two teams played
in August and then met in December. It's never happened
before in Texas high school football that they started in
August and then wound up playing. And I think the
sixty fourteen bracket has something to do with that, as
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well as the calendar and all those things. But you've
got to be good as well in advance to the
Regional five, the state quarterfinal round. How much have the coat?
What have the coaches told you? What is Drew Sanders
at Vandergriff and Galen Zimmerman at Dripping Springs told you
about what is useful of anything from the first meeting
between these two.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
What they say and what they think might be two
different teams things. But they both said, without provocation of nothing,
it was so long ago. It was you know, like
you said, it was August, it was thirteen games ago.
It was players that have had to adjust to new roles.
It was a quarterback for Vandergrift that's been battling a
shoulder problem and then reinjured the shoulder and now he's
(16:41):
getting healthier. But on the flip side, you had a
young junior quarterback in Chase Ames at Dripping Springs that
has just been lights out, and so I don't think
they put much stuck into anything out in the fact
that you know, traditionally it's tougher to beat a team twice,
and we do see it sometimes in the players that
they have to play a second time, and these two
(17:03):
teams have had that happen where they've split regular season
in playoffs. So they say nothing they might think otherwise,
just because you have to think something when you actually line.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Up against their team and you.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That you did well and you remember some things where
you were exposed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And both teams are playing at a level right now
where it's pretty easy to shelve a game from August.
Health has something to do it, And I always ask coaches,
I know you do this as well, ask coaches how
healthy they are in December, because it matters an awful
lot as to whether they're going to be successful.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And most coaches.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Will say, ah, we're reasonably if you're still advancing in
the playoff, chances are you're pretty healthy. And that sounds
like in the case of vandergriff which has had more
injuries than Dripping Springs, that maybe they're finally, if not
close one healthy, getting close to it anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, and the big one is a quarterback just because
he's been playing with a shoulder that you know clearly
he doesn't quite have the zip that he had and
will have once.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
He's one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean, you're talking about a guy that you know,
last year in that state championship run, the numbers were
off the chart for Tia Deci and this year he
hasn't quite hit two thousand yards, so he's getting healthier.
Justin Moore hasn't played their top running back in a
few weeks, so that's been a problem. But on the
other side, you've got Cooper Reid, the outstanding receiver for
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Dripping Springs. It's you know, banged up, but he's been
playing unhealthy and doing a nice job. He was a
signing day flip, you know, from Arizona State to TCU,
And so I think I think the biggest one is
the quarterback, and Drew Sanders thinks that every week Tiadecki
gets a little closer to what he did last year,
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when he threw for over thirty two hundred yards forty
eight touchdowns compared to nineteen hundred and fourteen touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, it'll be tomorrow afternoon, three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Can catch it live on KBVO, as they'll tell I know,
I'll I'll be back from the Metroplex, so I'll be
in the easy chair watching as well.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Appreciate the time, right, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
The other thing I was going to mention, did the
coaches say anything about the fact I figured it was
just a fad, a complete that they were going to
play in the Alamo Dum because coaches like to play
in climate controlled environments this time of year, even though
the high to Mar is gonna be seventy and sunny.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, Well, and you know, Evander Grip's a little gun
shy after, Like I said, that playoff game against brandeis
where they delayed the start, had a third quarter delay,
And yeah, I'm pretty sure they locked that up as
soon as they could. I'm surprised a little bit. It's
not part of a multiple game Saturday at the Alamo Dume,
which we've seen before. Sure, I remember triple header with
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three Austin area teams down there, including that McCallum win
over Corpus Christy cal Allen. Yeah, they shocked cal Allen
down there to.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Get to the state's semi files.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But yeah, just a single game at the Dome, but
we're pretty excited to we'll drive the extra distance to
know everything's gonna be everything's gonna be very comfortable.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Absolutely. Hey Rod, thanks, have a good call tomorrow and
we'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Same to you today. Thanks Greg.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
All Right, that's Roger Wallace from k XA, and we'll
have today's Inconceivable coming up on Sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone in the iHeartRadio app.
To say on right Uai and Christmas Day.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That's in the island, greeting that we send you from
the land where palm trees. Hearing all that Christmas will
be green and why the sun will shine by day
and all.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
The stars night is a wise way.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The same Americans take a girl.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So here we are on this Friday, And normally I
do say normally that because we're we're in the single
digit days in December, normally it's a little early for
me to be bumping back with the Christmas music there.
But listen, there there's a specific reason for that, because
(00:58):
this isn't the being crossed the edition of medleg Leaky Mockett. No,
it's one and only Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
He does a pretty good rendition of it. Of course, if.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We're bumping back with Jimmy Buffet, that means we're visiting
you with Roger Wallace, my broadcast partner long Range Football
and also works with us on men's women's basketball and
baseball and sports director and his day job at k
x A and Joe. Is it safe to say that
you have this particular rendition somewhere in your playlist? Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, he's got a he's a whole Christmas album Christmas Island.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So you have the Christmas Highland then I do.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And he's got some originals along with some obvious covers.
Yeah but oh yeah we uh he's singing it, We've
got it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well that's the one that that's the one I think
that's most recognized that he does cover. What is is
there another one that you favor of his? Not not
an original but a cover?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Uh? I have to think about that. You kind of
surprised me with the Buffet Christmas music? Uh right, Christmas? Well,
the one the name of out the covernet, the title
track Christmas Island is pretty good because you can imagine
that's that's got his uh his spin on it. But
uh yeah, I'm I'm down with whatever he he sings
(02:24):
with with the holiday music. I'm not a huge holiday
music guy. So he's a good he's a good compromise
because I can always find a good reason to to
listen to some Buffett and you know, the Christmas Baby,
so he is Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
My family doesn't think it's very funny when every Christmas
morning I say let's celebrate Jimmy Buffy's birthday.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
They kind of they're kind.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Of worn out on that that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I have a brother, My younger brother was born on
Christmas Day, hence his name Chris and uh and uh
he always kind of we always kind of his kids
looked at us like he gets double the gifts, which.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
He kind of did. Uh and and he would say, yeah,
but nobody.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Remembers that it's my birthday on Christmas. Nobody remembers that
other than parents when he was younger, you know that
kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So I guess it is. It's yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think my mom I used to call her on
her birthday and joke about it. For celebrating Joe Montana's
birthday again today, there's another way to look at it.
I know you and I do the same thing where
a kid, we look up all the birthdays around our
famous you know, athletes and stuff around our birthday. Yes,
how about you, I'm a great one. I think Elgin
(03:38):
Baylor maybe or.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Is that on yours that's Elgin Baylor's. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
That was the closest uh I got. I got the Pope,
by the way, I learned that the current so the
current one, yes, yes, oh wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Better than me. I got John Wilkes Booth. Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Uh okay, I think in addition to elgiin Baylor, I've
got Oral Hersheiser, Robin Yellnt and and then what's really cool,
the late Eartha Kit and bb.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
King nice wide range. I can't complain too much. I've
got Greg Maddox and Pete Rose. Well there you go,
all right, So there you have it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We asked Roger to hop on with us today this
afternoon to discuss more than birthdays or the holidays. But
I want to start really with the college football playoff thing.
Well we'll get to it, you know, we'll obviously see
who's in, who's out, and everybody's expecting obviously Texas to
not make the final cut.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
First of all, did you hear the Vic Schaefer.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Rant on this, because it's it's oh man, have I
gotten a lot of feedback on that, all positive people
loving it and all that kind of stuff. When he
said it's not even fruit to fruit, I think it was.
It was one of the comment and it's that sort
of thing. But I guess he's also Vic always has
a take on so many different things. But I guess
(05:05):
he's also expressing what a lot of folks feel. And
he just put it into a four minute, thirty seven
second rant.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think about it, so it's something else.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, if you if you listen to the it was
on the zoom before the North Carolina and if you
listen right afterwards you can hear so you're on the
fence about this.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
That was That was me chiming in. He went through that. Yes,
that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Now even as Vic has weighed in on it, I
mean Sark, Sark gave some really good reasoning for why
Texas should be in it. By the time he came
into us and sat down and did the one on
one with me before the signing day news conference, I
got the vibe he made peace with it. Not happy
about it, but made peace with it given the way
(05:53):
it is.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, and he kind of had that in his news conference.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
He kind of felt that way.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
And his final calm, I think on its second second
thought was got to win more games. And if they
value if you devalue losses more than you value wins,
or you ding teams for losses more, then clearly that three.
I've been saying it all along. I've been saying it
since they the Georgia game. The three, I think is
(06:21):
just gonna it's humans and they see the three and
an easy way just to say, all right, we'll take
them out of consideration because of the three.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, because you can't.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Argue with the wins, and you can't argue with the
non conference scheduling, and you have to I understand the
take on the Georgia game, and I'm you know, I
think it's somewhere in between where you know, it was
a fourth quarter game, Yes that's a fact, but it
was twenty one nothing in the fourth quarter and that
did happen, So you have to you know, it's a
sixty minute game.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's what everybody says. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, then in the end it was the score. It
was now, it was a close game for the better
part of what forty seven, forty eight, forty nine minutes,
but it got away from him and that didn't help,
you know, thirty five twenty eight, much different perception. But
still you're sitting there with those three losses, and it's
just it's an uphill climb from there.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I think.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
The other thing that caught my attention about this Roger
was Hunter Yurachek, the the Implanted Committee chairman, with mac
Rohade stepping away from it, was asked kind of point
blank on the on the conference call with the national
media after the selection show, if it was the Florida
(07:38):
loss or the Ohio State loss that was hurting Texas more.
And he didn't, he didn't mince any words. He said
it was the Florida loss. So and again the double
side of that argument, sark side is we didn't have
to play Ohio State. If we didn't play Ohio State,
if in other words, in his he didn't say this,
but if they played a Georgia State or somebody like that,
(07:59):
or you know, a cream puff or something like that,
and one handily, and to go back to his words, quote,
we wouldn't be having this conversation. The other side of that,
the folks that beat Florida and insert the words, we
wouldn't be having this conversation. So there's two ways of
looking at it. But when the committee chairman says it's
(08:19):
the Florida thing, you know how they're looking at it,
like you said the three the number three.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know we saw Florida against Florida State, so I've
seen you know, Okay, go down the list of comparisons
and what Florida State did to Alabama and then what
Florida did, and you know, if Alabama loses, they have
three losses and they kind of have that common thread there.
And Alabama lost to oh you and oh Texas beat OU.
(08:48):
But if they don't play Ohio State, then those four
games leading up to Florida looks so you know, looks
so bad because those three other non conference just the
way those teams, all those teams have had some success
in recent years that they played in that three game
stretch at home, but just so happened this year they
were all pretty bad. So then you're you're getting dinged
(09:09):
for the four games that you've played leading up to
the SEC saying basically you're just playing in SEC schedules.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So it's easy to.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Say that now because they played Ohio State, but if,
like you said, if they played a group of five team,
then all of a sudden, they're not even in the
thought process for four weeks other than OLUKHS Texas is
playing UH and they're just all they're doing is putting
all their eggs in the SEC basket.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Maybe that's enough.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't know, but I think everybody can counter anything
when when it comes to Texas, because they're kind of
a lightning rod school right now.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right on that. Uh And
and I want to I want to throw something else
at you and see what you think of this. I
got a series of texts last night from people. A
couple of them are friends from north of the Red Yes,
I do have friends north of the Red River. I
think all of us can admit to at least having
(10:04):
one friend north of the Red River. And they're hearing
rumblings up there.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Maybe it's just because they're little lantcy until the final
thing comes out, but I think everybody's inn agreement that
Oklahoma safely in the field. But what they're hearing is
is that there's a very real possibility that the committee
may drop Oklahoma to number nine. And the reason that
they would drop them the number nine doesn't have to
(10:34):
do with the wins and losses. They would drop them
the number nine because you see coming up that playoff
weekend is graduation weekend on the campus of the University
of Oklahoma, and there are no hotel rooms to be
had in Norman and very few in Oklahoma City, so
that that's something else that the committee has to take
(10:54):
hundred it. Now, you and I have had enough experience
broadcasting baseball regions where this kind of your stuff kind
of happens a little bit, and football's on a much
larger scale, which is both a plus and a minus.
There you can say, wow, you know, they'd have more
hotel room, but on a graduation weekend, if they don't
have any hotels available in Norman, it's not like they
have a bunch anyway. And then if Oklahoma City's booked up, Mike,
(11:18):
the committee put the Sooners on the road as a
result of about this as a nine seed.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
That would be that would be incredible, And I would
hope they would be one hundred percent transparent about that,
because who are you going. They're not playing right, Notre
Dame's start playing. If BYU wins and Alabama wins, then
you can understand, I get oklhom beat Alabama. We've seen
other teams ahead of teams that beat them, So yeah,
(11:44):
I could see them jumping Alabama or BYU just because
they want a conference championship. But now would be that
would be something else if that happened, For for just
sheer logistics well, and.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Then here's the other thing too.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You know, remember what was it Indiana State couldn't host
a super region on based.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
When you brought this up. Yeah, yeah, it's happened.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And there's been a couple of other situations like that
as well over the years. But it made me think
when Hunter Yurchek the other night was asked by Rhees Davis,
and then he was asked again on that on that
national media conference call, is there a possibility that teams
who were idle couldn't move?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Last year?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
The answer was an unequivocal no from Ward Manual, the
Michigan ad was the chairman of the committee.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
This year.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
He said, you know, maybe, you know, yeah, it's possible
it could happen. And I wonder if that was part
of what was on the table for them, which they
have not yet brought to the surface, that yes, we
could have some idle teams move because Oklahoma has no
rooms at the end or something like that, you know,
but he wasn't gonna say that publicly. Made me wonder
(13:01):
about that though.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, and I'll go back to last year. Why would
you ever say something can't happen? You know, why would
you always leave the door open for well, well, we'll
see how it shakes out before you just, you know,
make a blanket statement that you've pit you backed yourself
into a bit of a corner because of a result
that that might happen, and and so yeah, I don't
(13:24):
I don't know why you would ever just say no,
that won't happen and pretty much lock some teams in,
UH because you know that we don't know the results,
and what's gonna happen, what's gonna happen? And in Arlington tomorrow,
what's gonna happen, you know, in in Atlanta tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Roger Wallace joining us here on sports Radio AM thirteen hundreds,
and all right, let's turn our attention to the high
school UH front. And before we get to the game
that that you and Keith Morland be calling tomorrow, let's
say we the area.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I mentioned this.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And as you texted me last night as well, we
were both aligned with hearing about Mason falling.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
The Referio or Refurio.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Is the top team in two A Division one, so
that's no big surprise there, But there are some remaining
teams Alanto still out there and then of course Lake
Travis before we get to the other six A matchup,
and Lake Travis has San Antonio Johnson. I saw this
Johnson team play earlier this year. They are explosion. But
to me, I think the way Lake Travis has played defense,
(14:31):
that's how you win state championships. I've noticed over the years,
and they seem to have one of the best defenses
in the state.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, and I point to the game we're doing tomorrow
and Dripping Springs and the fact that Lake Travis beat
a team averaging over forty points a game, fourteen to seven.
So that tells me all I need to know about
that defense. We saw him in person against Brandeis back
a couple of weeks ago in Sam Marcus on a
(14:58):
rainy Thursday night, and and you know that they gave
up one big drive and then they kind of got
things under control. But I always go back to at
this time of year, I just trust to Lake Travis,
maybe a little bit more than a you know, you
look at what Johnson's done. They played a lot of
close ballgames and they seem like they have an explosive offense.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You've seen them in person.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I haven't, But I just trust Lake Travis probably a
little bit more when you're talking all things considered.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Okay, let's talk about this matchup you and Keith have tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's in that it is the first time ever been
it has been researched, first time ever two teams played
in August and then met in December. It's never happened
before in Texas high school football that they started in
August and then wound up playing. And I think the
sixty fourteen bracket has something to do with that, as
(15:54):
well as the calendar and all those things. But you've
got to be good as well in advance to the
Regional five, the state quarterfinal round. How much have the coat?
What have the coaches told you? What is Drew Sanders
at Vandergriff and Galen Zimmerman at Dripping Springs told you
about what is useful of anything from the first meeting
between these two.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
What they say and what they think might be two
different teams things. But they both said, without provocation of nothing,
it was so long ago. It was you know, like
you said, it was August, it was thirteen games ago.
It was players that have had to adjust to new roles.
It was a quarterback for Vandergrift that's been battling a
shoulder problem and then reinjured the shoulder and now he's
(16:41):
getting healthier. But on the flip side, you had a
young junior quarterback in Chase Ames at Dripping Springs that
has just been lights out, and so I don't think
they put much stuck into anything out in the fact
that you know, traditionally it's tougher to beat a team twice,
and we do see it sometimes in the players that
they have to play a second time, and these two
(17:03):
teams have had that happen where they've split regular season
in playoffs. So they say nothing they might think otherwise,
just because you have to think something when you actually line.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Up against their team and you.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
That you did well and you remember some things where
you were exposed a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And both teams are playing at a level right now
where it's pretty easy to shelve a game from August.
Health has something to do it, And I always ask coaches,
I know you do this as well, ask coaches how
healthy they are in December, because it matters an awful
lot as to whether they're going to be successful.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And most coaches.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Will say, ah, we're reasonably if you're still advancing in
the playoff, chances are you're pretty healthy. And that sounds
like in the case of vandergriff which has had more
injuries than Dripping Springs, that maybe they're finally, if not
close one healthy, getting close to it anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, and the big one is a quarterback just because
he's been playing with a shoulder that you know clearly
he doesn't quite have the zip that he had and
will have once.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
He's one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean, you're talking about a guy that you know,
last year in that state championship run, the numbers were
off the chart for Tia Deci and this year he
hasn't quite hit two thousand yards, so he's getting healthier.
Justin Moore hasn't played their top running back in a
few weeks, so that's been a problem. But on the
other side, you've got Cooper Reid, the outstanding receiver for
(18:37):
Dripping Springs. It's you know, banged up, but he's been
playing unhealthy and doing a nice job. He was a
signing day flip, you know, from Arizona State to TCU,
And so I think I think the biggest one is
the quarterback, and Drew Sanders thinks that every week Tiadecki
gets a little closer to what he did last year,
(18:58):
when he threw for over thirty two hundred yards forty
eight touchdowns compared to nineteen hundred and fourteen touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, it'll be tomorrow afternoon, three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Can catch it live on KBVO, as they'll tell I know,
I'll I'll be back from the Metroplex, so I'll be
in the easy chair watching as well.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Appreciate the time, right, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
The other thing I was going to mention, did the
coaches say anything about the fact I figured it was
just a fad, a complete that they were going to
play in the Alamo Dum because coaches like to play
in climate controlled environments this time of year, even though
the high to Mar is gonna be seventy and sunny.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, Well, and you know, Evander Grip's a little gun
shy after, Like I said, that playoff game against brandeis
where they delayed the start, had a third quarter delay,
And yeah, I'm pretty sure they locked that up as
soon as they could. I'm surprised a little bit. It's
not part of a multiple game Saturday at the Alamo Dume,
which we've seen before. Sure, I remember triple header with
(19:52):
three Austin area teams down there, including that McCallum win
over Corpus Christy cal Allen. Yeah, they shocked cal Allen
down there to.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Get to the state's semi files.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
But yeah, just a single game at the Dome, but
we're pretty excited to we'll drive the extra distance to
know everything's gonna be everything's gonna be very comfortable.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Absolutely. Hey Rod, thanks, have a good call tomorrow and
we'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Same to you today. Thanks Greg.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
All Right, that's Roger Wallace from k XA, and we'll
have today's Inconceivable coming up on Sports Radio AM thirteen
under the Zone in the iHeartRadio app.
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