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January 29, 2026 32 mins

Wynne came through the Cruz Show to talk about her LA show + she talked about her inspiration to rap, her parental support, passing on an invitation from Kanye & more. Wynne also told The Cruz Show about Jay-z & whether or not she'd take 500k or dinner with him. She also talked about being one of the boys, her upcoming projects & so much more. It's a fun interview, tap in!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh my god, is that Nico Blitz?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
If this is the story y'all about, if you're fucking around,
then you will find out.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
You'll never guess what happens next.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'll say, yeah, how I got my leg back on
my ex? Sanders come in. I don't pick a final answer.
How you trying to.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Talk for a long shot?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
I was in a spot like Huella today, like shot.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Damn, she was lit before you met her at the castle.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Me goes in my system.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Then pause, I just call her. Okay, you called me
my Yeah, I'm in a fact.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I hit the liquor, but it hasn't hit my system yet. Okay,
let's hid the day, so we a mist in text.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
If you want a picture in the shower, I'm like
baby's way, I'm a motherfucking dog mirror on the ball.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
Who's the fattest of them?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
He called me my van. No one's fucking want my job.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I feel like Jones, Julio Flows. I'm picking down me
all about to be a brown home. It's turn a mona.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
They're trying to remain me.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
A crucial When when is here?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:02):
What's up with it? Intro by Nico Blitz who already.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, that was tight.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Yeah, that's I think I might have told you last night.
But then Jackie put me onto you, maybe like last month,
maybe even two months ago, and immediately I was like,
oh no, she's dope.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Then we saw that you were going to come in
for an interview, I was all right, I'm about to
kill this.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, you went crazy. That was tight.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Your party last night?

Speaker 1 (01:24):
What yo? Man? We did a shot? Yes, yeah, it
was Kev's like Kev's birthday.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Right, shout the yeah birthday. Yes, that's right. So yeah,
we're drinking the night before work. I love it. You
know what we do, it's the lifestyle exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Sunglasses, Yeah that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, we got a show tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yes we did.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, let's go l a show. Yes, crazy. I know
you're excited.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm super excited. I've been waiting to come back here
and play headline show. So it's going to be a
good time.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
No, man, you know the crowd's ready. The crowd's ready. Yeah,
your fan base follows you. They're ready to go, right,
they're ready to party right now. Yeah, as you get
on stage and it's a party.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh yeah, I mean when I'm I'm coming to wrap.
There's no backing vocals. So it's like it's a sport,
you know, like Lupe says, rap is a sport, trained
like it.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
So you're coming, You're coming for live vocals. You're hearing
for raps.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
So and I was saying this about the show is like,
this is a mixtape show. I'm playing at front to back.
It's a real mixtape. So it's downloadable. It's not on Spotify,
it's not on Apple. So if you went out of
your way to listen to this mixtape, like that's real love,
you had to put in effort and then to go
a step further and buy a ticket to the show.
Like the fans showing up at this show, they listened
to this ship. Yeah they know they tuned in, so

(02:34):
it means a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, the mixtapes, Hey, when you can get it, it's
in your bio. It's easy to find, right boom. I
streamed it on YouTube. Hell yeah, you know, because I'm
a YouTube guy, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
I go straight to YouTube.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's a classic.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
I heard cool shit on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I didn't pay for none of exact I went straight
to YouTube, but just listen to it for free.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
My team because I'm a fan.

Speaker 7 (02:56):
You know, you mentioned like, you know, training for this.
I mean yeah, not a lot of peop people know
your story and that you've been ready for this.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yes, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
Like you. It's not like you came out of the
woodworgan just like this industry plant or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Your way.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, man, thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
It'spen I spent a long time coming the same crew.
I mean, I've been running around in these circles in
l A almost for like a decade. So to be
having this moment is it means a lot. I don't
take it for granted.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
When what's on what's on the rider?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well tonight, we definitely have some tequila, any specific brand,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
We put Patrona.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, yeah, that's that's my thing, no lie, like yeah
yeah yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Yeah, just the way the bars come off.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The same way. But it's gonna be like water in tequila.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Water in tequila.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's made some towels, towels.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Can you ask for anything? Yeah? I think so.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
You can ask for pretty much. Whatever I got. I
got a pressure. Yeah, that was the protip I got
from Mick Jenkins. On toron time.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
He was like every couple of shows I asked for
a new pack of Fresh Handes T shirts.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
I was like, that's brilliant, Yeah, that's brilliant. Yeah, some tank.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Tops, gallon of tequila, some tank tops, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
But you know what else is that is like you
could also take that money if you don't want to
spend on your writer, like you could you could take that.
So you also got to be smart because and something
depends on the on the contract.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
My Mexican ass would do dog forget the writer. I'll
bring my own sanitary wipe.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, let me go get my own Yeah, coming in
my check brom minimum with it.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, maybe a car shootery board.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Maybe maybe the young car shootery. Am I saying that correctly?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yes you are, that's right.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, you know it's hip hop dogs. Sometimes we gotta
twist words around exactly. We got to make it make sense. No, man,
congratulations on everything. Your lyrical ability is crazy. And you
know this right, but you trained for this, right, You
go in and you want to knock out, right, it's
like a boxing match for you.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Percent.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean that I came up as like a cipher MC.
So that was that's the whole thing. You move the crowd,
you're going, you're getting up there, you're trying to get reactions.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
So reactions you got to knock out or you get roasted.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yes, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
And when I was like when I was coming up
in the Cyprus, it's like sometimes you get up there,
especially if it's filmed, you kind of like go o
reverses with each other, And it was like I was
always going last. So when I get up on that stage,
you know, like I got to have those knockouts?

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Why were you going last? Because because you were in
there here.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
You can't top it?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, yep, yep? Or people moving out the way? Did
anyone try you coming up? Like there's no way this
little white girl knows what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I mean, but it's also like you can't.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
It would be kind of weird to like come at
me with in a distant a way because it'd be
kind of like why are you trying to? Like you know,
But I think once I prove myself, it was like
very uh, you know, you can't really fuck with her.
She kind of like does her thing. But I think,
you know, if people wanted to try that definitely could.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Now I want to say hear you, it's like, oh shit, okay,
hold on, because.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
If they don't know and they look at me, they're
not going to like diss the white girl. Yes, it'd
be like why are.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
You doing that? Yeah? But then once I ride, they're like, oh okay, word,
yeah I got it.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah. Is it tougher being white in this industry?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, as a really convoluted question, I think. I
think it's like it's clickbait for a lot of people.
So it's made it easier for me to go viral
because people see me and it works.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
But you make it work for you. That's the ship though.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I mean to me, it's not it's not a scapegoat.
It's like I'm trying to really that's not like a
It's not a crutch for me. So for you, it
makes it easier to go viral because people click on
it and they want to hate on it genuinely. So
so it works in that way. But it's also like
when you click on it, it stands.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, so it stands on for real. Crazy rumor about
you being Eminem's daughter was wild.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Oh my god, I'll never scape this hilarious. I know
it's hilarious. They literally did. Yes, that was insane.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
What did your parents think about that? They have to
they have to like prove like, no, guys, we didn't
like my parents.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
My dad is so off the internet, Like yeah, but
my mom.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I remember, like I dropped a little freestyle about it
after it happened, and I had my mom pop in
the video and be like, what do your.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Parents think about your you know, your hip hop venture?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I mean, you know, when you're a nine year old
white blonde girl grown up in the suburbs, it's like, okay, sure,
you know, sure, but they support me tentto's like my
parents have always, you know, believed in me to do
whatever I want. And I've always kind of known myself,
so I've always I've been like this since I was
a kid. So my parents have just kind of they've

(07:51):
embraced it and they support me. My mom pulled up
the other day. The other night, I was playing a
show with Jid in Seattle, and my mom came up
for the show and she was in the mosh pit,
you know, four rows back turning up for me.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
She knows all the words, like they really hold me down.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
That's a parent man.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, that's the kind of parents people need, especially coming up.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah. I mean my dad would pull up to Cipher's
with me, Like he came to l A. I was
doing Team Backpack and he, you know, came because I
was a kid. So my parents so.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Were they nervous because it was mostly boys?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
No? No, yeah they yeah, you know home my own,
that's right. And they were like.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, plus we'll be here, so about it?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Right?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (08:32):
What's there?

Speaker 4 (08:34):
What's their motivational talk before you do your thing? Is
there there?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I can't see my parents before a show because I
get overwhelmed. My mom gets too emotional. She's a crier,
she's a yeah she is, but but yeah, I mean
they're so proud of me.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
They're so proud of me.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
They should be Grammy weekend. Man, it's crazy out here
in l A.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right, it's insane moving around tired, having a great time.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah right, killing.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Do you get like, you know, being tired? Do you
still like are you still trying to adjust to the
being pulled different directions?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes? That was well put. I am trying to adjust
to being pulled in different directions.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
What do you what do you feel helps you keep
that grounded?

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Like squad.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, they're also the ones that are pulling you in
different directions.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Right, My team, my friends, my team, like they really
hold me down and you know trust me.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I trust them. So it's a beautiful thing. It's lucky.
I don't I don't take that for granted either.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
No, that's right now, that's great. You got to have
a solid team, man.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
They once Oh yeah, I mean these guys, like over
a decade, I've been working with these guys, so it's
like a long time. And uh, these guys I met
in college and Riley's been doing you know, photos and
videos in Portland for a long as time. Like everybody
in Portland has worked with Riley, so it's like these
are these are my guys. Rap and I played in
a band together in college called the Ill Equips. It

(09:57):
was kind of like the roots, Like we had a
full band and twelve piece like three MC's. We play
house shows. That's where I like really learned how to
like freestyle and perform in that way, so so different
from just like having a mic on a stand at
a cipher.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
And uh he's.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
My DJ now okay, and time manages me and as
my engineer and just like you know, these are my
best friends.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
So everybody's wearing multiple hats. Yeah, that's right, that's what
it takes.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, Like, no job is too big, no job is
too small.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
We were sleeping on floors together on tours and ship
so that's why I said, and yeah, win, I was
like when we graduate to hotels, like that's big, that's huge.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
That also just shows too that you appreciate those small
moments of like growth, and that makes you appreciate, like
you said, even the fans that take the time to
buy a ticket and really show up.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's special. It's special when you do it brick by brick.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
It takes a lot longer, so you gotta so it
makes the team stronger because everybody is that committed.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
That's a bar. It takes a lot longer, but makes
a team stronger.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Don't even ask me how.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
Right now, with so many conversations and so many different
artists that you're like, you know, obviously you did with
with Jit and like you think Reason, is there any
like music that's happening with Reason with J with like,
are those conversations happening.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh definitely, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I mean I'm trying to make music with all these
guys and definitely have some collaborations on the way, and
I'd love to have some, you know, on the album.
So I'm right now, I'm in the studio working on
it and just trying to throw paint at the wall
and make sure that the debut is like presenting me
the way I want to be presented.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
I know, we don't want to get too ahead of ourselves,
but like Grammys are definitely something we're reaching for too.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, I mean that's a that's a whole weighted Yeah,
that's a whole weighted thing.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Like there's a lot of intense history there with white people,
specifically in the hip hop category, you know. So I
think that's something that I'm cognizant of, and you know,
Grammy's like the history there is interesting.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
So something I think.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
About, Yeah, something we dream about.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah absolutely, Yo.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Your workout is intense, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, my workout is intense.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I do a upper body, lowerybody split. I'm in there
like five six days a week. I mixed cardio in
because I'm naturally not like a stamina girl. I'm a
strength girl. So so yeah, but I grew up as
like an athlete so it feels good. That's my mean time.
Would you grow up playing basketball and soccer?

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Oh yeah, it's rough, yeah rough.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I was a goalie, so I had I had
regular team practice and I had goalie practice. The goalie
practice was a ass kicker, man. I was an ass kicker.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah, no, that's right now. You grew up your way
out of shit man in the suburbs.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Many trust me.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
It gets grabbed me in the suburbs. Stopped playing bro jack.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
In seventh grade. You did a talent show. What was
the song that you did?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I did?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I did Superwoman by Alicia Keys. What where did you
just pull that from? That was somerd war Ship Wars Daughter?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, yeah, w Brown Daughter is a.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Superwoman by Alicia Keys. I sang that ship not well
but I.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Oh, you said it like you ate that ship.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Oh no, you're like I sang it, but I didn't
sing it.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
You know I didn't sang it. Yeah, he sung it.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I wasn't yet ready to like debut my my originals,
but the next year I did. I can't remember what
the song was called, but I wrapped in the eighth
grade one.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, So did you win that talent show. I don't
know that there was a winner, but I was just yeah,
he was just.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Like you feel yeah we won though, Yeah yeah, yeah,
it wasn't win, but I won. Yeah yeah, yeah, we's
the what's the line? I gave up a trip to
Italy to work with Kanye West?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yes, yeah, man, shout out to Kanye. He's a he's
a legend. That's one of my goats. I grew up
really listening to him, And yeah, I don't. Uh, it
was a really tough call. It was a really tough
decision when you grow up, you know, listening to hip hop.
That's like the holy grail is getting invited to win.
Witness Kanye's creative, like that experience his process. But you know,

(14:06):
I can't. It's a it can be hard to align.
So it's just didn't. It wasn't something that made sense
for me at that time. But I have so much
love for Kanye and and I hope that you know,
he's on the path he needs to be on.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Wow, that was that's a tough decision. It was a
tough day hip hop kid.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, man, graduate, you think about graduation, you're thinking about
every other album you like.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean I'm not alone. You know, that's a that's
something everybody's feeling. So but yeah, he's Yeah, I hope
he's doing well.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I mean, if it's meant to come back around, it'll
come back around.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Absolutely. It was just it's a it's a marker. It's
a piece of the puzzle where it's like, Okay, I'm
on the right path. I'm getting recognized by people that
I've wanted to be recognized by, so and that. You know,
this was a couple of years ago. So this for
that to be coming out now is like you know,
staying staying.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
On the path that's right now, it's still in the universe.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Are you still a big fan of j is here?

Speaker 5 (15:00):
I'm trying to tell him, is the guy man like
stop playing bro playing? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, So five hundred grand or a dinner with hof
A tough decision.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Five hundred grand. I'm going to get the dinner with Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yeah, Jaz said take the money exactly. Feel exactly. I'm
taking the money.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Not pay attention to that. I trust him. I trust him.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
It's like sitting at the table, yo, Okay, I got
what I need. I'm taking the money.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a it's hard for me
to get starstruck, but like I would, I'll cry when
I meet jay Z.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Yeah. I mean what if rock Nation calls man?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That would be insane.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
That'd be crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
That would be insane. Yeah, that would be insane.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Man, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
How about when you're on stage with woh I saw
that Like to me as a fan of I was
just like, bro, man, that's got to be such a
moment for for you.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
That was a trip.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Like I have to shut out Sea Rifkin because he's
og and he was one of the first people who yes, yeah,
one of the first people who found me in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
He was my first like label meeting.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And Steve has always been in my corner and supported
me and held me down, and you know, he saw
me having some motion and Ray and Havoc were both
fucking with me, and he was like, you know, we're
gonna put you on this bill. I was like, I
was like, are you serious? That would be insane? And yeah,
they both gave me some game and showed me a
lot of love.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
It was. It was unreal.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Unreal. Yeah. Again, going back to that hip hop kid, right,
these hip hop dreams.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean that was insane, like standing inside stage with
these guys and like that was just like tears man,
that was so cool.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Great.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
Do you ever have those moments of like okay, I
that you're like self doubting or you're just like no,
I worked so hard for this, Like I know I'm supposed.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
To be here.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a it's a weird dichotomy where like I know
I'm supposed to be here, and I I have never
wavered in like believing that this was going to happen
for me, because I think in order to pursue something
that's crazy, you've got to be a little crazy, Like
you've got to just believe you.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Can do anything. And I very much believe that. And
also it's hard. You know.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Also it's like you you do find yourself being like
damn more on like an industry tip, just like I'm
not trying to be super like public, Like I'm not that.
That wasn't the aspect of it to me that was attractive.
So it's more just like all the stuff you gotta
deal with around it. It's like you can't just make music,
you know, like with your friends. So it's like I

(17:30):
get to do that at the same time, and that
makes it all worth it.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
But it's it's just hard. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
Yeah, I think like you knowing that and everyone else
now knowing that, like you didn't go into it for that,
Like public right is like what makes what makes everything
else fall into place, and that's what's going to say
you up for even more success.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I appreciate that. Thank you. That's dope.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
You know the akas that go that go around or hilarious.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, oh my god, Betty the butcher, Becky the Butcher,
Becky the Butcher. There's some uh snap, a funny one
that's funny. There's been some good ones.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Snack Harlow, Snack Carlow, Buddy Bars.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, man, there have been some really good ones. I
wish they were coming to me off top. But yeah,
people are funny.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
People are funny, and people are funny. That's all right.
And do you believe that people don't know what they want?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I do?

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
That was some hard war ship too. I feel like
I've said that before. I don't think people know what
they want. I think that's why they're looking to the artists.
It's like, but also.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
That's why they discover the artists.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, well, I'm like, you gotta let creatives create, you
gotta let them do their thing. And I think people
get really attached to a version of an artist they found.
But bitch, people, you know, we grow and we change
and we and we make mistakes and we it's like
him on Tannason, You're right, I say, yeah, But yeah,

(18:53):
I think it's like you got to just move with confidence.
You got to be like, no, this is this is
what I'm dropping, and like I feel good about it.
I've thought about you also, like you, you have to
trust the artists too. It's like, if they're going to
make a mistake, let them make a mistake.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's part of it. You'll hear about it on the
next album.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
And like, you know, look at it through the lens
of somebody who's been thoughtful, Like, don't look at it
as someone at least for me speaking for myself, when
I drop something, it's intentional, So it's like I want
people to think of it through that lens.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, But a lot of times it doesn't work that way.
Because if your sophomore album is the same as the
first one that everybody fall in love with, you automatically,
it's just negativity.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
It's right, Well, give me a.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Chance to grow, man, yes, exactly.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Mean some fans don't want you to grow outside of
their expectations, right.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
And it's like you want me to stay the same,
Like then what's yeah, what's that look like for me
in my life?

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yea?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
If I'm just appeasing you, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
We have to be open minded when we're fans, you know, like,
you know, because we have to appreciate its art.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Still exactly subjective exactly.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
They're not making it for you, they're making it for themselves.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
What other female artists do you look look too?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Man?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Rhapsody? Rhapsody is big for me. I grew up listening
to like Missy, Lauren, Erica, Alicia Keys.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Obviously Doci. I have to shout out Doughci. I'm a
big Doughchie fan, says a like.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
On the tape is crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Hey, thank you, thank you. Yeah that was a fun one.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
But there's so many women Remy Kim who have like
really paved the way for Queen Latifa. I have a
You and I t Y remix somewhere that we should
drop it some point. Yeah, I mean so yeah, shout
out to the women, because we have to be so
much more put together, we have to be so much
sharper all the time. So so shout out to all

(20:39):
the all the girls paved in the way.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
And is there a pressure for a female artists to
be sexual in their wraps?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I think I think there's definitely a pressure. I
think you could say that, but I think, but I
think it's like for me, at.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Least I try to.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I just try to be myself, be authentic, be like
I am a sexual person and I'm also shy, so
you're gonna get a little bit of both, and.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
You need to and then yeah, talk other things that
And I think.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
People just need to leave women alone. Man, now, people
need to leave women alone. Like why are we not?

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Why are we?

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Like it's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's like just let everybody make what they want to make,
and like we don't need to compare everybody. Everybody's different,
we make different music. Like there's there's room for everybody.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
And the girls need to be for the girls. The
guys just need to just.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Like just chill, just chill.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's the worst thing about like folks having an emphasis
on like my lyricism is people.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I feel like I've seen Rhapsody speak on this too.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
But it's like, don't use me as like a pedestal
to like ship talk other women. It's like so black
to me, Like that's so whack, Like I'm shaking ass too.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
Yeah, especially like when that's not you're right, It's.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Like it's like how you listen to my ship? It's
like there's so much misogyny rooted it's insane.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Nah. You know what's crazy too? Is is snow the product?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes? Yeah, man, I opened for snow inep.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Twenty fifteen crazy it was that wait it was twenty fifteen?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I think so is that twenty sixteen? Maybe? Yeah?
What raph? And I like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
So she hits you up.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I don't know how it came about. It was in Eugene.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I was at University of Oregon and she was playing Wowhall.
And I can't remember exactly how it came about. I
don't she I don't know that i've ever I mean,
I adapted he rup at the show, but I don't.
We haven't, Like we didn't exchange information or anything. So
it might have been a Wowhall booking.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I don't know. But but yeah, open for snow.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
That's dope.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yes, really she is a legend. Yes, he's a legend.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, oh my god, talking about rap a sport.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yeah no, that that's yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
You remind me of her, like you know you guys,
you guys arens man, Like this is you.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Know, this is like a I'm to chill. I'm trying
to compete.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, crazy, Sorry Jack will happened?

Speaker 7 (23:08):
No, no, no, no, I didn't say anything. You're good.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
I thought you saw wrapping Jack on Okay, I got no,
absolutely zero.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I read in or notes that Taco Bell is your
favorite late nights neck Is that true?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
I love Taco Bell absolutely.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Taco Bell over Dell Taco.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, yeah, probably yeah, I mean yeah, like rap, I'm I'm.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Also like a big Popeyes girl.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
So heavy on that spicy chicken sandwich for sure. Yeah,
fries a big fry because the little fries too small.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah it is, but there's no low key with the
box is too big and the bag is too small.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
Proportions don't make sense. And I've always said this and
no one has me.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I am a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I am a little bit spicy tenders spicy tenders the
black there by.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Nah, wait, hold on one more time, Garcia, what you say?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Crew swears that there Thanksgiving turkey at Popeye's fire. Have
you ever had it?

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Crazy you?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
I have never had that. It's a beautiful meal every.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
No disrespect your mom.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
What's her name, Casey?

Speaker 5 (24:19):
No disrespected Casey.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I'm sure she makes a fine turkey, right and amazing sides.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
But it's Popeyes popeye'es turkey. Crazy changing this.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's a little bit of a hot take. But but
I'm gonna trust you.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
But I trust you, trusted trust that you haven't had it.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I haven't had it, that's right.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
That's he was telling me that about the Taco Bells
breakfast crunch wraps for years and I was like, talk
about for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't know. That's like, that's like an alone in
the dark. I am kind of a thing.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It's kind of sad.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
But but but the the breakfast crunch rabbits slaps, So
you gotta trust, you, gotta trust.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
I never had the breakfast country. Yeah, it's I'm still
on the Mexican pizza. Yeah, bangers, Well, the Mexican should
eat more. Taco bell stop playing.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
To be fair.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
I did only have tac about for the first time
like three years ago.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Wild that's a good holdout. Yeah, that's respectable.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
So it's like, yeah, it's like why right, right, right, wait, you.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Talk about till you got married or you're right, Jackie's
engauge man getting married here.

Speaker 7 (25:26):
Soon is actually my Nico who did that. He's a yeah,
and we work together. Never get a break from them.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh my gosh, damn. I'm not sick of him sometimes, to.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Be fair, she's sick of him, she's sick of me.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
It's tough when you're running around with the boys.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
Yeah, the conversations we have in here, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
It's a lot.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
You guys forget.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I'm a chick, like I'm a girl like you know exactly,
But you're still one of the guys.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Right that too.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
Can you go through that?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
You go through that every day.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
This is my squad, you know, every day. Yes, but
I'm one of the guys. But I'm also like, I'm
a girls girl, but I'm one of the guys too.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's balanced. Yeah, but I got raunchy jokes so I
can hang that's good.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah, you got raunchy bars too, so it helps.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
So it all works together.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
And Jackie could talk shit with the best of them,
so like, yo, she right there with us exactly.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
The only thing I can't do is put into bars.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So just but that's your next step.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yes, but that's the next step. Yes, eventually, yeah, say
win the mixtape.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
It's available for download. You can stream it on YouTube.
The link is in the bio. The show is tonight
at El Sidy Crazy, right are we nervous?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
We excited? We anxious?

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Right now, I'm just feeling excited.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I know the nerves will hit me like right before
I get on stage, but but I feel confident. It's like,
you know, it's like you put the you win in
the rehearsal room and then you just get on stage and.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
You then it's muscle memory, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, yeah, but you got to be locked in, Like,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a hundred twe percent.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
It's gonna be a great show stage diving. I'm worried
someone's gonna like my tits or something I have.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
That's why I said that this is crazy.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
Feel me, you feel me, like you understand my struggle, right, I.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Feel you I always think about that too.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Rama man, I'm gonna think about that right when women stays,
I'm like, oh, those are a lot of hands magic,
there are a lot of cases.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so probably not for me. No, any
my space an my barrier.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
I'm cool here, boundaries, I guess.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
But I meet everybody after the shows, like I hang around,
I kick and we take pics.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
And talk and the lobby, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Kick it.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
In the venue, everybody hang around a little. It could
be a little over woman, but it's dope. It's meet everybody.
Everybody shows mad love. It's like, it's cool to see
you know, the way your music travels, the way it
hits people, the way it affects them.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
So it's it's always a good time.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Any crazy autographs.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I mean the stuff you would expect, tits, wallets, it's.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Wallet is plain this year now.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Is a great name for a strip closer.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Yeah, yeah, write it down.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
People bring me like Portland ship to sign, Like, they'll
bring me like duck ship or Dame Ship, which is donuts.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Dont yeah. Now, I've been out there, man.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
My my niece and nephew went to the University of
Oregon and oh really yeah, We were out there when
it was cold, and that's a different kind of cold.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Were they there?

Speaker 4 (28:34):
They were there a few years ago, so not yeah,
not not, not too long ago. They graduated, but yeah,
it was a different call. It's a different vibe about that.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
What did you think of the Dirty I love it?

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
My my brother bought a condo out there to be
closer to his kids. But that's where he's going to retire.
He's going to move out.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Eugene is fun. Good times in Eugene. That good times
in Eugene.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
It's quiet, Yes, it is quiet.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
But that makes me think, like what the fuck is
going on behind closed doors out here.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Because it's too quiet.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, it's they call it the Dirty huge for
a reason.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
The game son went out there too, he was he
went to school out there.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think I knew that.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
And and big boy Son too, yeah yeah, yeah, he
played on the team.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Very popular school man.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah, great school, great teams. Sports. We got Uncle Phil
out there, Phil Knight, so.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah, man, good crowd, Oh reception.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Oh yeah, I mean oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
One like Oregon specifically, like we are huge fans of
our sports. So like Austin Stadium, the Rose, the Motus
Center and the Rose Garden. Like that's that's like same
with Providence Park. Timbers, like the fans in Portland go insane.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Like people say it's.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
One of the best places.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes there, Yeah, it's one of the best places to
just to be an athlete, but also like just to
be a performer. Like people show up in Portland specifically,
it's like people show up to events. It's like people
are very like they're trying to stay off their phone
out there, Like it's pretty like a healthy, focused space,
so they show up to support like local shiit.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
A lot that's always good, right, people off their phones
and just enjoying the moment.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Yes, very rare.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yes, it's the type of place where like everybody wants
a flip phone, you know, like everybody.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Who did your parents listen to when you were growing up?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Man? My dad put me on to like he was
playing through the wire for me early. But it was
a lot of like Motown, a lot of the Supremes,
a lot of Alicia Keys was another one my dad
put on me.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
India. I re you got millennial parents, No not, they
just got good taste. Luther Van Dross.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
That was like, I'm adopting that as my first concert
because I was in my mom's stomach.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
But a lot of Luther. Yeah, good good music around
the house.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Would you say you were made to Luther? Maybe possibility?
Go ask Casey.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
She might know.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
She might have an answer for you in right right,
she may know.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Ya have a great show.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Tonight, Man, thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Kill it man, you deserve it all Man.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Bar level is wild. Yeah, I know this, but you know,
I'm sure it doesn't get old to hear it, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Man, I appreciate that. That means a lot.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Yeah, you're linking up with any LA artists.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, I'm Mark lux Is opening the show. That's right,
which is gonna be dope. So shout out to Mark.
I was chopping it with you with reason last night.
I got the chopping with easy Chaike. Who's who's super dope.
So yeah, I'm definitely trying to build on some West
Coast ship also up in the Bay.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
P Low like there's a there's a lot of great
artists out here.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
No, there is not, for sure, Man, go run and
have a great time. Man, I know there was no
b planning. I think this is this is all right?

Speaker 5 (31:46):
This is it?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, this is it, this is it?

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Do or die?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yep, it's happening.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
No, and it sounds like it.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Say when the mixtape is out again, Lincoln Bio the
shows tonight, EL said, you can get tickets still right now.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Yep, yep, let's get it. Congratulations, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Hey Yo, it's your girls, Nache. Hey, what's up. It's
the Icy girl Sweedie. What's up?

Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's making a daggon on the cruise show Real ninety
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