April 21, 2026 • 37 mins
Akon pulled up to The Cruz Show and kept it all the way real. From AI and the future of music to ownership, touring with Ne‑Yo, and why he doesn’t believe in struggling just to prove a point, this conversation goes everywhere — and it feels like game the whole time. He talks about his new album Beautiful Day, the idea behind his “Ringtone” record, staying young by choosing peace, and why business has to come before feelings. Akon also breaks down how artists should think about AI, gives major insight on Jay‑Z’s impact on the Super Bowl, and weighs in on Kanye, cancellation, and consequences in today’s climate. Plus, there are classic laugh‑out‑loud moments about hair, touring, legacy, and why retirement didn’t stick. Real talk, gems, and energy — this one’s worth the full watch.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He was good boyd what what's good?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Everybody? This is Neil? What's good?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
This glove? Really?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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the Cruise showy cons back on the Cruise Show. We're
going in Yo man by Nico Blitz, right there, man, crazy, yeah,
hits man.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Man, Well you put that letter on that one.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I was telling Leslie the biggest issue I had was
figuring out the best of the best, because you got.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So many, says a lot.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
There's a catalog there, yeah, huge catalog. Is the catalog
for sale? When will it be for sale? Ever?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Never?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The family?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
My man? There you go and let them handle.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It when every generation got to win off of it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Very smart, very smart. See so you're gonna get back
to your fanly Oh yeah right. Jackie Channis says he's
not leaving anything to his family. They can earn it
him themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean, I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Why.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I don't see the point. What's the point.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
This is why we do it. This is why we
do it. Yeah, we do it so our family shouldn't
have to struggle.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Man, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Man, leave them something that they can net off of
and build from.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Man, Acon is here, everybody, Beautiful Day on the Way,
Beautiful Day on the Way, four beautiful new album, new sounds,
new energy, new vibe, New Acon, a New Day and
a New Day. Hell yeah, bro, Yo, you know we
were trying to figure out the song.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh God love, very seen and very represented, Yo.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
That ship about to be so crazy. Y'all gotta see
the video.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Come on, b y'all gotta see this video.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Where is it not?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I just go at it back yesterday, did you.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I'm gon sure our preview of it after the interview
if you can watch it. Yeah, come on, I gotta
break this record. We got to record.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We have to break.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
We gotta break it here and show that cruise way.
Go ahead, y'all gotta break this record.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm down. I'm down.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I'm gonna make sure.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You specifically excluded to get this video.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Thank you, my brother. We gotta do it. Got we
gotta give it to the city. No congratulate that man. Yeah, man,
well yeah, this is everybody.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
This is the young.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yo on tour with Neo. Yeah, that would right coming
bro into it because me and Neo was both trying
to figure out.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Well, that's too many heads, bro, No, it's gonna be nuts.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
But this is thing like how it came together. I
was on my way out on tour, and Neo was
on his way on tour. You know, we just having
you know, no small talk. What you got going on? Man,
I'm about to go on to Oh ship, I'm about
to go in to a Oh shit, I'm gonna be
starting in Europe. I'm starting in Europe, Oh ship. When
you're going on April, I'm going out on April. Hold on,
it's too many you know what I mean? We should
(03:03):
not We should come together and knock the ship out.
Too many stars aligned, man, too many stars aligned. And
we said, yeah, we gotta do this since everybody doing
these collapse and all that, these legacy collabs, let's go
in and just knock this, you know, knock these bowls down.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Is perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Conn and Neal.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
That's a real millennium tour straight up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, you got a birthday coming up to on the sixteenth. Yeah,
to see, I'm talking about true every series Gang.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Said about as.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Tourists, we get along with y'all. Yeah, yeah, we lock in, Yeah, locked.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
In with.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Any big birthday plan.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, no, I'll never celebrate birthday. My life was a party,
that right, birthday party. So my birthday, I.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Just want peace and quiet and serenity. I don't want
to see nobody.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I just want to be.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Let me just relax.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
My birthday. They passed by. Leave me alone. That's my present.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
If you go to the restaurant. If you go to
a restaurant and they start seeing happy birthday to you,
are you just.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Like ah, you won't find me at a restaurant on
my birthday. I don't be at home.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
No, literally, my birthday is my day off, disconnected from everybody.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Good. No one can get a hold of you.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
My phone is off.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, leave me a message.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'll read them. After the next day.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'll get to you.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I'll get to you in twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Mane. And it's tough for a man who has everything.
What do you get a person who has everything? Peace?
Give them peace, Give me peace, and shut.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
The fuck up and shut the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
For a day. Yeah, yo, a new day on the
way man in August August twenty first, you know we
got ringtone as well.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, ringtone. Ringtone is coming next. That's my next single.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
That's very fitting for a com it's a yeah, it's
a big, big, big record. That record is gonna be
something big, bro, Because you got to think the ring tone,
the ringtone that I use is on a billion phones.
It's the most popular ring tone on the iPhone, and
it go like my phone goes off twenty.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Five thousand times a day.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
But the ring tone went off so much that it
just got embedded in my head. And after a while,
naturally as a songwriter, I just started writing melodies and
songs to it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I said, damn, this could be a smash it because
everybody know the ringtone.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Already, right, that's right.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
So I just wrote a song about it and wrote
it on and I said, you know what, Now I
can add it as my ringtone. So when my phone
actually rings, I want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know, yeah, exactly straight. It's like the alarm when
you set the alarm in certain that certain alarm that
goes off. It's annoying, It is annoying, but.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
It gets stuck in your head. So now imagine if
you could make use of it. Wow, and that's it,
and make money off of you.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean, you made so much money off Ringtones bro, Bro,
it was. It was a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
It's like, because this right here, if this works, I'm
gonna do a whole album called Rington.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm gonna take all the toes off the phone and
ring songs on.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Why not. It's already turned it into something special, straight.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, it's so crazy that I've been seeing on
TikTok now that it's a trend to bring back ring tones.
Like I saw this little boy who was like maybe
twelve to like fourteen years old, like making his own
like voicemail, making sure the song was playing in the background,
and then saying like, hey, this is so and so calm,
I'll give you a call back home. I was like, Wow,
the kids are gonna be all right.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, they gonna be alright, They're gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Technology all right. Hey, it's been twenty two years since
Locked Up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Damn that long. Yeah, that was a man. That was
a Kevin Hart moment. Damn since locked Up?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Twenty man, twenty two years. I remember premiering it on
the radio. It's in Vegas. Yeah, shut me, shut up,
shut up. I've been doing this, man. I don't know,
I don't know. I wasn't counting. I wasn't counting, and
I was there. I've been there since Belly Dancers stopped playing.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, that was yeah belly Dancer Because a lot of
people don't know that Belly Dancer was released before Locked Up.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yep, it was the first.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It was the first single actually remember on the radio US.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It was the first.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Actually, Operations of Nature was my first single in ninety five.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's right that I was a child for the belly Dancer.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I was there for.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, belly Dancing was there.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
For hm remember playing it in Vegas? Man on the radio?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh am, I damn.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You don't ever forgot. That's the thing you don't ever.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Age because I don't.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I literally ignore my birthdays, so I forget how old
I am to me to I.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Don't even want to remember me. Do you feel like
like twenty two?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I love that, I really do.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Mm hmm what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You gotta get It's a feeling.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
You can choose how you feel, like literally, like I
always believe that sadness and happiness is a choice because
you wake up every day you got some ship that's
going to drive you nuts that you can choose entertained
or some things that actually makes you happy. They could
choose it entertained, right, So it's really up to you
what you choose entertaining and the energy that you allowed
to be in your you know, your sphere. Like so
I'm always like in a high end positive note. Anything
(08:09):
that remotely feels like is gonna fuck up my day.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm sneaking out the back door.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't think I've ever seen you upset, never because
I don't think you.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Ever Since I got this break, bro, it's nothing but
smiles every day, I know how how like I know
what it was supposed to be and what it could
have been versus what it is now.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I thank God every day.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know what I'm saying, an artist that you've had
under your umbrella speak about you the same way you
know t Pain famously says, Yo, you know a concess.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I can give you this much money, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I can also give you a future and music, which
is more than what you're gonna get a.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Career, career check you decide, checks come and go, Careers
last forever.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Go for the career, for sure.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
But Pain is probably the probably the smartest artist that
I've ever been in affeling Pain, Yeah, he's a man, father,
family man, super super intelligent, smart as fuck, by the way,
right then he has the mindset of understanding that the
hustlers will keeps him alive. So he's always gonna find
whatever around him to make that ship work for him. No,
(09:16):
that's right, you know what I'm saying. That's what I'm
He got it back, but it's all a part of life.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And then he figured out another way to make a
lot of revenue.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Think about it. You know how many times Pain has
been rich?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Has a few times? Only been rich twice? Pain has
been rich way more than me. Pain get rich with
Like even if let's just say he blow his money
on gaming, that nigga gonna make it back on streaming.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
He's gonna figure it out. He's gonna figure it out.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Pain has been rich multiple times. It's only been rich twice.
That's music and energy.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yes, he's been rich multiple times.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The nigga get it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's still a good friend right now.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
He's an amazing person.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Like I love pay Man, Yo, Beautiful Day, what can
we say? Beautiful Day features?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
No, I can't tell you that. You got to get
the album. Okay, but what I can't tell you that
after you hear.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
That album, don't worry about it. It's okay.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
But what I can tell you is the next album
Iconic is every song is a future with the icon
that I admird there you go, so that I can
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Movie that's a clip Jack's right now.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That's not coming to December.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
So I'm dropping two albums a year for the next
two years, and then I'm gonna decide if I want
to continue two albums a year because I don't know
where the energy is going music yet.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So nah, Yeah, you got a lot of people talking
about retirement. I thought about it, thought about it. I
even tried it. She ain't work.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I got bored too quick.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Go back to what you know, man, you gotta go
back to what you know, because that's that's what keeps
you alive to be honest, you know what I mean. Like,
just being away from music, I was so I started
to feel that depression even though I had positive energy,
I felt like something was missing. But then when I
got active in music again, it came. I was like, Okay,
now it reminded me of why I got it in
the first place.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
You know what, I'm saying, Okay, how.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Long did you try that?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I tried it since twenty twelve, But then I didn't
realize or even knew that I had even retired, because
then my mind, I'm still in the game because I'm
still putting people on, I'm still writing songs for others,
I'm still producing. So I just said it because I
wanted to kind of set myself up mentally to go
that direction.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
But I really didn't retire because I was still active.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
You know, it's almost like jay Z said he's retired,
but he really ain't retired because he's still in the
entertainment business, whether it's sports entertainment. Even though he's doing sports,
he's curating entertainment for sports, So you're not really retired.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, the passion just don't escape.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Like so at that moment, I said, let me just
stop faking man, stop crass. Today, you just get back
into it full speed. Especially when I realized the energy
where the music is now, it was just it's just
too easy, it really is. I'd be a fool not
to come back now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
There's a lot of money on the table if you
walk away. It's so easy, right, Yeah, Well, technology is that.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
With everything technology, the competition, the opportunities, the access.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Are you are you into like the AI creation of music?
One hundred percent? I'm for you. I'm even invested in it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh yeah. A lot of artists are against the cal
against it.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
But I think it's because they're looking at it from
a creative artistic expression perspective. Sure, I'm looking at it
from a business perspective because me, I don't think AI
or computer can never affect my creativity.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It just can't.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
What it can do is enhance it, though, So it's
a matter of how you approach it. Right, Like prime example,
I can write a song naturally and it running through
my AI system, and my AI system is going to
be back my same song five different ways, in ways
I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
And so now I can play with that to make
something that works both neurologyly, digitally and all that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Leader it works in ways that I'm not thinking about.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Helps Yeah, because guess what the computer that's crazy it
may sound, it detects certain parts of us that's not
even human, that reacts to us because it reads through
data that's all based on repetition and pattern, right, you
know that's how you read humans like, just follow that pattern,
you'll get to read and know who that person is
just by his pattern. So computer read it in data code,
(13:33):
so it'll give us information about ourselves that we're not
even familiar with.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
What we like about it.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
So embrace that when you're creating, and imagine what that
can Because I already not I can make a hit record,
but imagine that if I can buy what I know
with what I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That's a different lose.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Nah. Yeah, it sounds like a win win hundred percent,
but you got to embrace it otherwise you will lose
because technology is gonna override you one hundred percent. You
feel like the artists that are not embracing it will
be left out.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
They would definitely be left out without a question. Now
they will not be forgotten because they're legendary artists. And
but what's gonna happen is their legendary contribution will get
tooken and redone and they won't even benefit from it financially.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And that's the part that they need to be a
that fair. It ain't fair.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But if you don't embrace it, they gonna profit off
your ship regardless, and you can't stop them because it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Really necessarily even you exactly. You can't suit them. You
can't sue a computer that's not your voice.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
No likeness, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
No, No, it's a computer's likeness that just imitates your likeness.
So it gets very very technical, right. A computer can
think like a human, but that don't make it a human.
The same way computer can sing like a human, but
don't make it a human. So guess what before I
say no to it? Okay, guys, what are y'all doing
that has a symbol or even a fraction of resembles
(14:56):
my voice? Just remember I own my voice and the
sound of it.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So I'm bought in.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
So whatever they do that's acon like or a coon branded,
whether I'm a part of it or not, I'm gonna
get my money.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So you working with it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'm working with it to protect before it out works.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
You boom, cruise, you're a smart I'm here, I swear
they call you crew.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
He was already there. But that's that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
So artists have to think business first, but they think
passion first, and that's why a lot of makes you know,
those kind of fatal mistakes and before you know it,
they're fighting about a contract that they never understood.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So this is the same concept.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
So when you started, did you start, you know, your
career passion first or no business. I was always a hustler.
I was figuring out. I knew that music can get
me to the money, so music was always a bridge
to the money for me. But I just happened to
love music so much that I made money without realizing
it because I was having so much fun.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And that's the that's what you want, that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You want to have fun, not in it for the money,
because you know, believe in your product.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Have fun, it'll follow absolutely.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Listen, anything that you love that you having fun doing,
you're gonna find yourself doing it all the time. Anything
that you do all the time, you're gonna end up
being great at that. And anything that you're great at
people will say, will pay you for that service.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So just follow your passion.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
No, you're right.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
A lot of artists are just like Yo. There was
no grind there. There's no late night studio sessions for AI.
They didn't sleep on the floor. They can card nobody.
What do you mean, who cares the.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Nigga.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't want to sleep, want to grind. I'm about that.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
I don't want nigga, I want to I want to
be able to say, make me a song that that
reflects how I feel right now, Well, how you feel.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'm depressed.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
My girlfriend just cheated on me, and I saying, fuck
that bitch, And that's what I want the song to
be about. And I hear it and I like it,
or I may not like it, but at least I
can now cater it to what I like and I
do half the work and still get one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Of the money.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Okay, like like like it's it's an assistance, don't make
it like it shouldn't create for you.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Don't with you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But there are AI artists that have topped the charts
right and in the way I guess, and.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
They're not in the way if anything, like look at
it this way, and I get I promise you as
an artist, as a creator, I understand them.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
They're right.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
It does affect the creative process and it takes the
integrity out of creating. It does, trust me, it does.
And they're one hundred percent correct. But that don't make money.
Your feelings don't make money. Actually, your feelings stop you
from getting money. That's why they say don't take business personal.
(17:39):
You understand what I'm saying, because the moment you add
the personality into it bars bars.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, it can't like this. This is why it's called
the music business. Think about it.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Why do you think so many niggas was mad at
jay z? Jay make business decisions right. He can't care
less about how you think, how you feel?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right right at first?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, if you're.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Close to him, it could rub you the wrong way
because you're like, man, that's my dog man.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Were supposed to do together.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
He's right, you're from a perspective of your homie. You're
supposed to ride together. You know it's natural. But he's
thinking from a business perspective. Yeah, that's my homie, but
this is business. But support him in that business because
when he makes business, guess what happens? You profit from it,
You benefit from You can look.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
At Tatar look at.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Time.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
You gotta respect him because he's from all perspective. He
supports Jay as a businessman and as a friend. Jay
makes I'm sure business business decision that Tata may not
agree with, but he understands you know what his business,
that that shit unraveled the way it is. He clearly
made a decision because he believes in that from a
business perspective.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So let's see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
If you need support, I'll be here to support him.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
But I ain't gonna be upset and take a personal
because Jamie decision that I don't agree with.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
You got to take your feelings out of the business.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
You gotta take the feelings out and trust the process
more than anything.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
That's trust the problem.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Because if you believe in yourself and what you can create,
that nigga, that don't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You can bring any.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Machine, any computer, any AI system and it will not
affect you because you only you can create what you know.
A computer can't create what you know. It can try
to duplicate, but it can't create. You're the creator of it.
So all you got to do now is embrace that
to help actually fulfill that creation or even take the
creation to the next level. You can't let your ego
get caught up and think like prime example, artists that
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don't write their own music, those are the biggest artists
selling out arenas and stadiums.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
They don't spend day and.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Nights trying to figure out words that calculate and collaborate
with each other to make us feel a certain way.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
They let somebody else do that, and they be like, yo,
how much is for that? I hear ten thousand?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Pretty using AI hundred.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Thousand for that song. They own it, they perform it.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Not everybody matter at Elvis President because he's saying all
these black songs that somebody else wrote, but Elvis was
the ones that was remembered that the end of the day.
You think Elvis presidenty cared about who wrote these songs.
He just knew that it was an amazing song that
if I perform it, I would get popular and successful,
and it worked. Nobody knew the real writers of Elvis' songs.
They just knew it was some black dude in the
blues ball that wrote it.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The audiences don't care.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
They call him a thief for it.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I mean he bought it or maybe he didn't, but
either way, the audience didn't care. They just love the
fact that it was Elvis performing it and they were
amazing songs.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's right, you saying business. I totally understands. He comes
a businessman, and that's very evident. You know what I mean,
and and you're right. You got to take the feelings out.
Got the feelings out, you gotta take the emotion.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Out, and you have to create and believe in your product.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Believe in your product.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
That's it, you know, believe in your stringer. Is that
you who's calling?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's the ring tone.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
So when you hear the song, it's that ring tone
right there that I wrote the song on and it ring.
I actually had it on airplane.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
More.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I don't know how to fun that happened the multiple times.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
That's a live nation trying to figure out that we
plugged the tour in. But it's already done by guys.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Already, it's already done.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
It's a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You know, you mentioned entertainment sports. You've been talking about
jay Z. If Jay Z ever hits you up for
a Super Bowl, you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Absolutely, I would do it.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
But you know, let me let me, let me speak
to j jay Z's credit because a lot of people
and I used to read a lot of the comments
before I used to stay well, I used to stay
away from a lot of it. But what I can
say is, ever since Jay got that position at the
Super Bowl, and curated the talent there. There's been there's
been more black and brown musicians, artists that performed for
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the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Let's not forget.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Before Jay was there, there was nothing but white acts,
whether they would pop a rock and roll. Since Jay's
been there, you've had hip hop, you've had R and
B culture, and you had.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
That part.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Let's not just due to the math from the moment
he's been there, It's been all culture. So it don't
matter what type of culture where because you can only
do it once a year.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Bro, everybody get they shot. You know what I'm saying,
Like super Bowl? What this is?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
How many fiftieths?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How many? How many years?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Fifty?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
God, this is this year is gonna or this upcoming
year is gonna be like fifty six, It's like.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Fifty something right out of those fifty years, it's been
a white ass. Maybe one maybe Michael Jackson, but in Prinson,
but you can count them on one hand.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, but the amount of work they had to do
to get up there is crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
But what they had to do and what they had
to achieve to get there was crazy, you know what
I mean? So you got to give Jay credit, man,
like he really letting the America, not the world, but
letting America understand and actually share culture that we're contributing
for events like that to happen. And I'm I'm just
happy that you know that that that the NFL is
even allowing him to continue to do it in sequence,
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because I would have thought you had to go one one
black and two white groups and then another black and too.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
But he was like consistent, and.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
The nigga that bad Buddy played, I was like crazy
when you were think you're right, he would play a
little ball right and he was like no, but he's
been like but I just felt like it was unfair
for people.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
To target him after his track.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Record of what he's contributed. People are really quick to
forget absolutely, you know, and look at the paw. I
just wanted to make sure he got his flowers for that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yo, hey yay is banned from the UK. They canceled
the entire one.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
He ain't been banned from the UK.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
This ain't nothing, nothing new, but like this he's banned.
He was not allowed back in and the festival that
he was getting ready to headline, Wireless completely thrown out
the entire festival not.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
But did wireless not know that before they booked him,
because don't forget, he was already banned from the US
from the UK. Remember when he did all those so
called anti semitic, you know comments, they had banned them.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Then based up and said, I believe yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
That Yeah, So I'm trying to understand why would they
book him if he was already banned from.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Now maybe they thought, Okay, maybe it's it's over. Maybe
maybe get him a past, get.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Him a past, we'll figure this out.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's hard to get that pass
because you got to think, like and I I I
just I don't want to say anything that's going to
put me in hot water.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
But no, don't.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Don't you understand.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Like once you go there and those guys get upset,
they kind of control entertainment, fashion and music. So it's
like it's hard to kind of come out of it.
So I don't see how think, Yeah, I don't think
how very very sensitive. So I don't think how they
were so naive to believe that they can take them
out of that bandmanship m h that soon.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He did apologize and a few times and now understands
that actions are louder than words.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
But I think it's a good lesson in disguise though,
because you know. But at the same time, also believe
that people should be entitled to their opinion, to be honest,
because because yet because they feel that.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Way don't make it real and just.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And just because they feel that way don't mean that
they should be punished for feeling a certain way. Because
everybody has their reason for why they feel the way
they feel, and I think we should all be entitled
to our feelings, if not our speech.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
True true, But his feelings got in the way of
business again. Boom. Folks from here always hit you.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
That's a wild situation to be in.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
He's got the product, yeah, but I mean the good
thing about yeah. At this point, now he has a
solid base that's actually culted. So no matter what he
does or where he does it, he's gonna pull a
good turnout. So even if they say, okay, cool, I
can't do it in the UK, Yank himself can say
I will funk it. I will do it in America
he can rent a fucking.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
He sold out so far, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
He's just sold out so far exactly eighty thousand people
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And again two nights, right, he can do that anywhere
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And it didn't feel in there at all. I didn't
get a magna vibe in there. I didn't get none.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
So he's not gonna He's not losing. If anything, you know,
the UK loses for that experience, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, and for every artist that was on the bill
that that doesn't get to perform, you know that.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
But they could have kept they could have kept it going.
I think I think it would have still did it well.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
The sponsor the sponsors is a rap.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Pepsi pulled out Pause, who else, PayPal, Diagio, all of them, YEA.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Major sponsors that.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But wait a minute, wait wait every sponsor.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I'm completely confused now, So you mean to tell me
when they announced that Ya was headlining, they didn't know
Ya was headlining before they sponsored.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I guess not.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I think because relationship just trusted them.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
The Pepsi that pulled out.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So Pepsi has been the Wireless festival sponsor for ten years,
so they had their lows and Breandan everywhere. So no
matter what, they already were.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
They had to have known.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
There's no way they didn't know, because normally when they
depositing that kind of money, you already have your set
lists or your headline.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Least least I wouldn't say, like.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Like confirm headline, you sponsors, you do have.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
A tentative headline for the next five years of who
you plan to get. Sometimes you can swap them out
last minute, of course, but you haven't. You have to
have an idea of what your five year projection is.
So you have to and in order to get that,
you have to know who's going to be headlining according
to those numbers, and hopefully those numbers project into the
next five years. They're not just giving you the millions
of dollars just on a wing bro like they figured
these numbers out. So they had to have known that
(27:48):
Yay was going to be headlining this year before you
think what happened was what happened was Yay did that,
and then they probably was like, well, how was gonna
affect the wireless Let's just wait and see where this goes.
Then they got all the way up to this point,
and then you got this war and Iran, you got
(28:09):
all this stuff that's happening in Gaza, and it all
made all this look.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
A little crazy.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
So the risk, the risk is what they're mitigating. It
ain't what he said already, it's what he could say
with day's temperature of what's going on politically, right, So
they were worried about what They're worried about what he
could say because they can't control what Yea he says
and when he says it, and right now is not
a good time for any anti Semitic remarks or any
(28:36):
bad remarks under that community right now.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And Yea has a voice of a fucking megalophone.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
So they was like, well, I don't know if this
is a good time for this situation with a risk
we can't control.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Wow, that's what happened. Wow, if I had to make
an evaluation.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So he's gonna bring that American energy over here and
he's gonna say some wild shit.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You just can't control what he's gonna say, unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
And then there's Pepsi's logo.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
There's it's billions of steak, billions, billions of steak.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Jesus, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
So yeah, bring it back to the States.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I mean, now, I don't know if you know the
States is going to be like, well, now we can't either.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I mean, at this point, you just got a cruise.
You gotta just chill. Yeah, you gotta just yeah, you
gotta an air out.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, and just kind of kind of kind of in
so many words, just kind of regenerate those relationships.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And you know, fix them.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, actions is everything, like you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Have you had a chance to talk to Gaga?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I know you guys had a super long, iconic relationship.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Have you had a chance to I'm still trying to
get a hold of her.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I wanted to. I wanted to congratulate her. I fucking
loved her super Bowl performance, like fucking body that ship.
Yeah yeah, but after she changed her number, Damn, I
think I think she changed the number.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I can't get ahold of her.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
No, but no, seriously, like I think, man, she fucking
I was proud, like she really bodied that ship.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Man, you gotta do a Latin record now, you have to, baby,
like you gotta do it. You gotta do it, you
gotta do it, you gotta do it.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You and Carol g gotta get on the record together.
That would be amazing, That's what I'm seeing. I would
gladly produce that ship. But I saw that immediately.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
N Carol g Lady got a collar, crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Crazy, that would be unbelievable. Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
When she came out when when the wedding scene bad
Bunny and it opens and there.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
She what that was?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Instantly, instant, like I saw the light. He just got hot.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Whatever happened to Kobe have done?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh no, we're actually about to work his record start.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think we're gonna it's uh April. I want to
say it's the first speak of April.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I don't know exact day, but we're about to start
servings and all the records wow with services record right, yeah, yeah,
So we wanted to kind of push it first virally.
I mean we we dropped it last month. It's over
thirty million views on YouTube right now. It's called Locked
Up with You Featuring Me, and now we're going to
go straight for radio. I want to get the numbers
to a certain level before we went to radio with its.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He's back back. Yeah, it's crazy. It's a big record.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So what was happening like between the time of the
era of like what you got?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Oh man, life life, Yeah, life, was life and man,
and he had a very intricate, difficult I would say
interesting relationship with his dad, and his dad was one
of the main reasons why his career didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Go to where it needed to go.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Because I've heard about it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
But eventually, now for the last I think, I want
to say three and a half four years, his dad
had passed away, so it opened up his door now
to be doing what he's doing now. So he's back
in the music fully speed and he's moving.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Good for him.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
That's awesome that you're there for them.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
For yah.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
I was happy that I was actually when he needed
me to be there. But because it could have been,
it could have got a lot worse, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Man, and the unit, my guy, the unit.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm good and I'm good.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It looked really good.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Well actually at the time, you know what, cruising me said,
this at that time looked great.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I thought it looked good too.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
But ever since I did this, I felt like, this
looks a lot better, and I couldn't believe I left
it in my head that long.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
It does look better this way, it does. But the
unit looked clean.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
But it only looks clean when it's fresh after four days.
Oh they the maintenance is unbelievable. And I used to
have it in that like a week, two weeks, sometimes
three weeks no maintenance. It looked like a rug. I like, yeah,
I need a vacuum for this. And then when you
(32:56):
overseas like places like Germany where ain't no black people,
I can't no wave grease like and if no, don't,
God forbid, I lose my wave cap.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh man, it's it was overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It works out better.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You don't recommend the I do recommend it if you
can keep it maintained.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
It's like it's like a chick with a wig, like
a chick or you know. Yeah, if you can't maintain it, bro,
it's gonna look like it's gonna be all tamed.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I will say this.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
There's there's no there's no shame in the unit. Man,
I don't care. After I thought about it, you feel me,
you know what I mean, because I'm like, I gotta
do something. But it actually it works for you, like you,
the implants work better, but on black hair, implants don't work.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I went to go do that first. I went to Turkey.
For the implant. No, no, they did. They did everything
they were supposed to do.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Like, but the problem is, our hair curls so before
it leaves the scap, it's already curling in.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So even though they kind of opened up the follicles,
it don't.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
It don't push through the scalp because it curls white.
And Hispanic hair works perfectly because it's straight. It comes
comes right out, so it'll work really good. You go
to Turkey, bro, you'd be like the teenager all over again.
Really yeah, Turkey, Turkey.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
They they the best at it is the best. You
should do it, you, bro.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You won't even notice it.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
It's not an operation.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I wouldn't want to call it the operation. It's not procedure.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
It's a procedure, but it's it's but you you up
and awoke the whole time. It's not something you gotta
be put to sleep for another that stuff. Okay, No,
like it worked, bro, you would think you were coming
right out of No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It's your actual hair. Yes, all they do.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
All they do is wake up the hair follicles and
the ones is dead. That bob them somehow with laser.
Like it's like it Bro, your hair grows like you
as a teenager.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
We can't figure this out in burd Bank.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
They do in America, but it's so expensive.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
It's you pay close to one hundred grand. You go
to Turkey. You doing it for like thirty five hundred,
five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Wow? Yeah, you see the difference.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
And they cover your flights, they cover your hotel, and
all they need from you is a simple post.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
What that's it?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Shoot the why I gotta tell the world.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I gotta tell the world that I went there, which
is fine. I don't give the who cares?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
You'd be right back like you be cruise from you
goddamn twenty.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Eight, twenty eighteen, play Bealley Dancer, Boom.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
You're nineteen ninety eight back again.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It's crazy. Yeah, Bro, all right, Turkey, you know the place.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I look you up. I got you real locky right in,
Lock me in, Bro, I connect you right in with them.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Okay, too easy.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
They tried on me. Just they't work my head too black,
really it's too curly, and it worked, but it worked
for you.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
I was thinking about you for your Turkey sounds crazy
so oh also too, they do very good work in
Korea as well too, Korea.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Just further Korea skincare.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Though, skincare and hair as well. Real females like career
better because they're more sensitive with it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But for us, man go to Turkey too easy, Yeah,
two easy.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
All right, We're going to Turkey, all right. A new
album on the way, new.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Dang, new album on the way, absolutely beautiful, iconic in
the way. April twenty fifth, I mean April twenty fourth.
And then of course you already know what it is.
A Konic that's way down the lines.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Way down the line.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
The interview.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
You've got the tour.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
We got the tour with nice like this, Me and
my boy Neil.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Wow in Inglewood on the twenty first of August.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Up in August.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
We are here.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, dog, congratulations A coming.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
I think this is the last stop. La Is the
last time. It's the last stop. So we're bringing people out.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I mean, you know how la is. It's impossible to
come to l A and not bring people out.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
They're gonna come to the show and be like, Nigga,
you're bringing me out. They're like, man, the show is
already I mean, it's already set up. I don't know,
it's like, I don't care, they're gonna walk out LA.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They don't find a way. I'm trying to figure out
how not.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
To have a bad way because the show is programmed,
so it's hard to fit them in. But this one
in LA, I may have to unprogrammed and just go.
I might just have to you know, Yeah, we have
to do.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Something, bro.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, we'll be there. I've been to
an a con show. You guys have been to a
console You've been to a conshole.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta go have fun.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Dude, we went what was it like, two years ago?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Years ago?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I think, yeah, oh my god. We were so lit
at that concert. It was just like banger banger, banger,
banger bang.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, we'd be having so much fun.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Man. Oh yeah man, Hey, co appreciate the end of
time of course. In the catalog, Hey John, everybody a
Cruise Show.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Hey Jacking Rich from the Cruse Show. Thanks for listening
to the Cruise Show podcast. Make sure to subscribe and
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Speaker 2 (37:32):
So so
He was good boyd what what's good?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Everybody? This is Neil? What's good?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
This glove? Really?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
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hits man.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Man, Well you put that letter on that one.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I was telling Leslie the biggest issue I had was
figuring out the best of the best, because you got.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So many, says a lot.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
There's a catalog there, yeah, huge catalog. Is the catalog
for sale? When will it be for sale? Ever?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Never?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The family?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
My man? There you go and let them handle.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
It when every generation got to win off of it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Very smart, very smart. See so you're gonna get back
to your fanly Oh yeah right. Jackie Channis says he's
not leaving anything to his family. They can earn it
him themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean, I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Why.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I don't see the point. What's the point.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
This is why we do it. This is why we
do it. Yeah, we do it so our family shouldn't
have to struggle.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Man, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Man, leave them something that they can net off of
and build from.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Man, Acon is here, everybody, Beautiful Day on the Way,
Beautiful Day on the Way, four beautiful new album, new sounds,
new energy, new vibe, New Acon, a New Day and
a New Day. Hell yeah, bro, Yo, you know we
were trying to figure out the song.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh God love, very seen and very represented, Yo.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
That ship about to be so crazy. Y'all gotta see
the video.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Come on, b y'all gotta see this video.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Where is it not?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I just go at it back yesterday, did you.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
I'm gon sure our preview of it after the interview
if you can watch it. Yeah, come on, I gotta
break this record. We got to record.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We have to break.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
We gotta break it here and show that cruise way.
Go ahead, y'all gotta break this record.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm down. I'm down.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I'm gonna make sure.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You specifically excluded to get this video.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Thank you, my brother. We gotta do it. Got we
gotta give it to the city. No congratulate that man. Yeah, man,
well yeah, this is everybody.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
This is the young.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yo on tour with Neo. Yeah, that would right coming
bro into it because me and Neo was both trying
to figure out.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Well, that's too many heads, bro, No, it's gonna be nuts.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
But this is thing like how it came together. I
was on my way out on tour, and Neo was
on his way on tour. You know, we just having
you know, no small talk. What you got going on? Man,
I'm about to go on to Oh ship, I'm about
to go in to a Oh shit, I'm gonna be
starting in Europe. I'm starting in Europe, Oh ship. When
you're going on April, I'm going out on April. Hold on,
it's too many you know what I mean? We should
(03:03):
not We should come together and knock the ship out.
Too many stars aligned, man, too many stars aligned. And
we said, yeah, we gotta do this since everybody doing
these collapse and all that, these legacy collabs, let's go
in and just knock this, you know, knock these bowls down.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Is perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Conn and Neal.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
That's a real millennium tour straight up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, you got a birthday coming up to on the sixteenth. Yeah,
to see, I'm talking about true every series Gang.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Said about as.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Tourists, we get along with y'all. Yeah, yeah, we lock in, Yeah, locked.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
In with.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Any big birthday plan.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, no, I'll never celebrate birthday. My life was a party,
that right, birthday party. So my birthday, I.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Just want peace and quiet and serenity. I don't want
to see nobody.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I just want to be.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Let me just relax.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
My birthday. They passed by. Leave me alone. That's my present.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
If you go to the restaurant. If you go to
a restaurant and they start seeing happy birthday to you,
are you just.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Like ah, you won't find me at a restaurant on
my birthday. I don't be at home.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
No, literally, my birthday is my day off, disconnected from everybody.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Good. No one can get a hold of you.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
My phone is off.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, leave me a message.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I'll read them. After the next day.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I'll get to you.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I'll get to you in twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Mane. And it's tough for a man who has everything.
What do you get a person who has everything? Peace?
Give them peace, Give me peace, and shut.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
The fuck up and shut the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
For a day. Yeah, yo, a new day on the
way man in August August twenty first, you know we
got ringtone as well.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, ringtone. Ringtone is coming next. That's my next single.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
That's very fitting for a com it's a yeah, it's
a big, big, big record. That record is gonna be
something big, bro, Because you got to think the ring tone,
the ringtone that I use is on a billion phones.
It's the most popular ring tone on the iPhone, and
it go like my phone goes off twenty.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Five thousand times a day.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
But the ring tone went off so much that it
just got embedded in my head. And after a while,
naturally as a songwriter, I just started writing melodies and
songs to it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I said, damn, this could be a smash it because
everybody know the ringtone.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Already, right, that's right.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
So I just wrote a song about it and wrote
it on and I said, you know what, Now I
can add it as my ringtone. So when my phone
actually rings, I want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know, yeah, exactly straight. It's like the alarm when
you set the alarm in certain that certain alarm that
goes off. It's annoying, It is annoying, but.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
It gets stuck in your head. So now imagine if
you could make use of it. Wow, and that's it,
and make money off of you.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I mean, you made so much money off Ringtones bro, Bro,
it was. It was a no brainer.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
It's like, because this right here, if this works, I'm
gonna do a whole album called Rington.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I'm gonna take all the toes off the phone and
ring songs on.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Why not. It's already turned it into something special, straight.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, it's so crazy that I've been seeing on
TikTok now that it's a trend to bring back ring tones.
Like I saw this little boy who was like maybe
twelve to like fourteen years old, like making his own
like voicemail, making sure the song was playing in the background,
and then saying like, hey, this is so and so calm,
I'll give you a call back home. I was like, Wow,
the kids are gonna be all right.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, they gonna be alright, They're gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Technology all right. Hey, it's been twenty two years since
Locked Up.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Damn that long. Yeah, that was a man. That was
a Kevin Hart moment. Damn since locked Up?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Twenty man, twenty two years. I remember premiering it on
the radio. It's in Vegas. Yeah, shut me, shut up,
shut up. I've been doing this, man. I don't know,
I don't know. I wasn't counting. I wasn't counting, and
I was there. I've been there since Belly Dancers stopped playing.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, that was yeah belly Dancer Because a lot of
people don't know that Belly Dancer was released before Locked Up.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yep, it was the first.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
It was the first single actually remember on the radio US.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
It was the first.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Actually, Operations of Nature was my first single in ninety five.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's right that I was a child for the belly Dancer.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
I was there for.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, belly Dancing was there.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
For hm remember playing it in Vegas? Man on the radio?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh am, I damn.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
You don't ever forgot. That's the thing you don't ever.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Age because I don't.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I literally ignore my birthdays, so I forget how old
I am to me to I.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Don't even want to remember me. Do you feel like
like twenty two?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I love that, I really do.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Mm hmm what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
You gotta get It's a feeling.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
You can choose how you feel, like literally, like I
always believe that sadness and happiness is a choice because
you wake up every day you got some ship that's
going to drive you nuts that you can choose entertained
or some things that actually makes you happy. They could
choose it entertained, right, So it's really up to you
what you choose entertaining and the energy that you allowed
to be in your you know, your sphere. Like so
I'm always like in a high end positive note. Anything
(08:09):
that remotely feels like is gonna fuck up my day.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm sneaking out the back door.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I don't think I've ever seen you upset, never because
I don't think you.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Ever Since I got this break, bro, it's nothing but
smiles every day, I know how how like I know
what it was supposed to be and what it could
have been versus what it is now.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I thank God every day.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know what I'm saying, an artist that you've had
under your umbrella speak about you the same way you
know t Pain famously says, Yo, you know a concess.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I can give you this much money, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I can also give you a future and music, which
is more than what you're gonna get a.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Career, career check you decide, checks come and go, Careers
last forever.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Go for the career, for sure.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
But Pain is probably the probably the smartest artist that
I've ever been in affeling Pain, Yeah, he's a man, father,
family man, super super intelligent, smart as fuck, by the way,
right then he has the mindset of understanding that the
hustlers will keeps him alive. So he's always gonna find
whatever around him to make that ship work for him. No,
(09:16):
that's right, you know what I'm saying. That's what I'm
He got it back, but it's all a part of life.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
And then he figured out another way to make a
lot of revenue.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Think about it. You know how many times Pain has
been rich?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Has a few times? Only been rich twice? Pain has
been rich way more than me. Pain get rich with
Like even if let's just say he blow his money
on gaming, that nigga gonna make it back on streaming.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
He's gonna figure it out. He's gonna figure it out.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
Pain has been rich multiple times. It's only been rich twice.
That's music and energy.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yes, he's been rich multiple times.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The nigga get it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
He's still a good friend right now.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
He's an amazing person.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Like I love pay Man, Yo, Beautiful Day, what can
we say? Beautiful Day features?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
No, I can't tell you that. You got to get
the album. Okay, but what I can't tell you that
after you hear.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
That album, don't worry about it. It's okay.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
But what I can tell you is the next album
Iconic is every song is a future with the icon
that I admird there you go, so that I can
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Movie that's a clip Jack's right now.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That's not coming to December.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
So I'm dropping two albums a year for the next
two years, and then I'm gonna decide if I want
to continue two albums a year because I don't know
where the energy is going music yet.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So nah, Yeah, you got a lot of people talking
about retirement. I thought about it, thought about it. I
even tried it. She ain't work.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I got bored too quick.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Go back to what you know, man, you gotta go
back to what you know, because that's that's what keeps
you alive to be honest, you know what I mean. Like,
just being away from music, I was so I started
to feel that depression even though I had positive energy,
I felt like something was missing. But then when I
got active in music again, it came. I was like, Okay,
now it reminded me of why I got it in
the first place.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
You know what, I'm saying, Okay, how.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Long did you try that?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I tried it since twenty twelve, But then I didn't
realize or even knew that I had even retired, because
then my mind, I'm still in the game because I'm
still putting people on, I'm still writing songs for others,
I'm still producing. So I just said it because I
wanted to kind of set myself up mentally to go
that direction.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
But I really didn't retire because I was still active.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
You know, it's almost like jay Z said he's retired,
but he really ain't retired because he's still in the
entertainment business, whether it's sports entertainment. Even though he's doing sports,
he's curating entertainment for sports, So you're not really retired.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, the passion just don't escape.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Like so at that moment, I said, let me just
stop faking man, stop crass. Today, you just get back
into it full speed. Especially when I realized the energy
where the music is now, it was just it's just
too easy, it really is. I'd be a fool not
to come back now.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
There's a lot of money on the table if you
walk away. It's so easy, right, Yeah, Well, technology is that.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
With everything technology, the competition, the opportunities, the access.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Are you are you into like the AI creation of music?
One hundred percent? I'm for you. I'm even invested in it.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh yeah. A lot of artists are against the cal
against it.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
But I think it's because they're looking at it from
a creative artistic expression perspective. Sure, I'm looking at it
from a business perspective because me, I don't think AI
or computer can never affect my creativity.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It just can't.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
What it can do is enhance it, though, So it's
a matter of how you approach it. Right, Like prime example,
I can write a song naturally and it running through
my AI system, and my AI system is going to
be back my same song five different ways, in ways
I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
And so now I can play with that to make
something that works both neurologyly, digitally and all that.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Leader it works in ways that I'm not thinking about.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Helps Yeah, because guess what the computer that's crazy it
may sound, it detects certain parts of us that's not
even human, that reacts to us because it reads through
data that's all based on repetition and pattern, right, you
know that's how you read humans like, just follow that pattern,
you'll get to read and know who that person is
just by his pattern. So computer read it in data code,
(13:33):
so it'll give us information about ourselves that we're not
even familiar with.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
What we like about it.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
So embrace that when you're creating, and imagine what that
can Because I already not I can make a hit record,
but imagine that if I can buy what I know
with what I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That's a different lose.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Nah. Yeah, it sounds like a win win hundred percent,
but you got to embrace it otherwise you will lose
because technology is gonna override you one hundred percent. You
feel like the artists that are not embracing it will
be left out.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
They would definitely be left out without a question. Now
they will not be forgotten because they're legendary artists. And
but what's gonna happen is their legendary contribution will get
tooken and redone and they won't even benefit from it financially.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And that's the part that they need to be a
that fair. It ain't fair.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But if you don't embrace it, they gonna profit off
your ship regardless, and you can't stop them because it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Really necessarily even you exactly. You can't suit them. You
can't sue a computer that's not your voice.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
No likeness, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
No, No, it's a computer's likeness that just imitates your likeness.
So it gets very very technical, right. A computer can
think like a human, but that don't make it a human.
The same way computer can sing like a human, but
don't make it a human. So guess what before I
say no to it? Okay, guys, what are y'all doing
that has a symbol or even a fraction of resembles
(14:56):
my voice? Just remember I own my voice and the
sound of it.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So I'm bought in.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
So whatever they do that's acon like or a coon branded,
whether I'm a part of it or not, I'm gonna
get my money.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So you working with it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'm working with it to protect before it out works.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
You boom, cruise, you're a smart I'm here, I swear
they call you crew.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
He was already there. But that's that's the thing.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
So artists have to think business first, but they think
passion first, and that's why a lot of makes you know,
those kind of fatal mistakes and before you know it,
they're fighting about a contract that they never understood.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So this is the same concept.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
So when you started, did you start, you know, your
career passion first or no business. I was always a hustler.
I was figuring out. I knew that music can get
me to the money, so music was always a bridge
to the money for me. But I just happened to
love music so much that I made money without realizing
it because I was having so much fun.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And that's the that's what you want, that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You want to have fun, not in it for the money,
because you know, believe in your product.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Have fun, it'll follow absolutely.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Listen, anything that you love that you having fun doing,
you're gonna find yourself doing it all the time. Anything
that you do all the time, you're gonna end up
being great at that. And anything that you're great at
people will say, will pay you for that service.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So just follow your passion.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
No, you're right.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
A lot of artists are just like Yo. There was
no grind there. There's no late night studio sessions for AI.
They didn't sleep on the floor. They can card nobody.
What do you mean, who cares the.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Nigga.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't want to sleep, want to grind. I'm about that.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
I don't want nigga, I want to I want to
be able to say, make me a song that that
reflects how I feel right now, Well, how you feel.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I'm depressed.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
My girlfriend just cheated on me, and I saying, fuck
that bitch, And that's what I want the song to
be about. And I hear it and I like it,
or I may not like it, but at least I
can now cater it to what I like and I
do half the work and still get one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Of the money.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Okay, like like like it's it's an assistance, don't make
it like it shouldn't create for you.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Don't with you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But there are AI artists that have topped the charts
right and in the way I guess, and.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
They're not in the way if anything, like look at
it this way, and I get I promise you as
an artist, as a creator, I understand them.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
They're right.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
It does affect the creative process and it takes the
integrity out of creating. It does, trust me, it does.
And they're one hundred percent correct. But that don't make money.
Your feelings don't make money. Actually, your feelings stop you
from getting money. That's why they say don't take business personal.
(17:39):
You understand what I'm saying, because the moment you add
the personality into it bars bars.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, it can't like this. This is why it's called
the music business. Think about it.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Why do you think so many niggas was mad at
jay z? Jay make business decisions right. He can't care
less about how you think, how you feel?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right right at first?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, if you're.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Close to him, it could rub you the wrong way
because you're like, man, that's my dog man.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Were supposed to do together.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
He's right, you're from a perspective of your homie. You're
supposed to ride together. You know it's natural. But he's
thinking from a business perspective. Yeah, that's my homie, but
this is business. But support him in that business because
when he makes business, guess what happens? You profit from it,
You benefit from You can look.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
At Tatar look at.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Time.
Speaker 6 (18:34):
You gotta respect him because he's from all perspective. He
supports Jay as a businessman and as a friend. Jay
makes I'm sure business business decision that Tata may not
agree with, but he understands you know what his business,
that that shit unraveled the way it is. He clearly
made a decision because he believes in that from a
business perspective.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
So let's see where it goes.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
If you need support, I'll be here to support him.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
But I ain't gonna be upset and take a personal
because Jamie decision that I don't agree with.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
You got to take your feelings out of the business.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
You gotta take the feelings out and trust the process
more than anything.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
That's trust the problem.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Because if you believe in yourself and what you can create,
that nigga, that don't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You can bring any.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Machine, any computer, any AI system and it will not
affect you because you only you can create what you know.
A computer can't create what you know. It can try
to duplicate, but it can't create. You're the creator of it.
So all you got to do now is embrace that
to help actually fulfill that creation or even take the
creation to the next level. You can't let your ego
get caught up and think like prime example, artists that
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don't write their own music, those are the biggest artists
selling out arenas and stadiums.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
They don't spend day and.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Nights trying to figure out words that calculate and collaborate
with each other to make us feel a certain way.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
They let somebody else do that, and they be like, yo,
how much is for that? I hear ten thousand?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Pretty using AI hundred.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Thousand for that song. They own it, they perform it.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Not everybody matter at Elvis President because he's saying all
these black songs that somebody else wrote, but Elvis was
the ones that was remembered that the end of the day.
You think Elvis presidenty cared about who wrote these songs.
He just knew that it was an amazing song that
if I perform it, I would get popular and successful,
and it worked. Nobody knew the real writers of Elvis' songs.
They just knew it was some black dude in the
blues ball that wrote it.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
The audiences don't care.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
They call him a thief for it.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I mean he bought it or maybe he didn't, but
either way, the audience didn't care. They just love the
fact that it was Elvis performing it and they were
amazing songs.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's right, you saying business. I totally understands. He comes
a businessman, and that's very evident. You know what I mean,
and and you're right. You got to take the feelings out.
Got the feelings out, you gotta take the emotion.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Out, and you have to create and believe in your product.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Believe in your product.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
That's it, you know, believe in your stringer. Is that
you who's calling?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's the ring tone.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
So when you hear the song, it's that ring tone
right there that I wrote the song on and it ring.
I actually had it on airplane.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
More.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I don't know how to fun that happened the multiple times.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
That's a live nation trying to figure out that we
plugged the tour in. But it's already done by guys.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Already, it's already done.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
It's a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You know, you mentioned entertainment sports. You've been talking about
jay Z. If Jay Z ever hits you up for
a Super Bowl, you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Absolutely, I would do it.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
But you know, let me let me, let me speak
to j jay Z's credit because a lot of people
and I used to read a lot of the comments
before I used to stay well, I used to stay
away from a lot of it. But what I can
say is, ever since Jay got that position at the
Super Bowl, and curated the talent there. There's been there's
been more black and brown musicians, artists that performed for
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the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Let's not forget.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Before Jay was there, there was nothing but white acts,
whether they would pop a rock and roll. Since Jay's
been there, you've had hip hop, you've had R and
B culture, and you had.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
That part.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Let's not just due to the math from the moment
he's been there, It's been all culture. So it don't
matter what type of culture where because you can only
do it once a year.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Bro, everybody get they shot. You know what I'm saying,
Like super Bowl? What this is?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
How many fiftieths?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
How many? How many years?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Fifty?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
God, this is this year is gonna or this upcoming
year is gonna be like fifty six, It's like.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Fifty something right out of those fifty years, it's been
a white ass. Maybe one maybe Michael Jackson, but in Prinson,
but you can count them on one hand.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, but the amount of work they had to do
to get up there is crazy.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
But what they had to do and what they had
to achieve to get there was crazy, you know what
I mean? So you got to give Jay credit, man,
like he really letting the America, not the world, but
letting America understand and actually share culture that we're contributing
for events like that to happen. And I'm I'm just
happy that you know that that that the NFL is
even allowing him to continue to do it in sequence,
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because I would have thought you had to go one one
black and two white groups and then another black and too.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
But he was like consistent, and.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
The nigga that bad Buddy played, I was like crazy
when you were think you're right, he would play a
little ball right and he was like no, but he's
been like but I just felt like it was unfair
for people.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
To target him after his track.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Record of what he's contributed. People are really quick to
forget absolutely, you know, and look at the paw. I
just wanted to make sure he got his flowers for that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yo, hey yay is banned from the UK. They canceled
the entire one.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
He ain't been banned from the UK.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
This ain't nothing, nothing new, but like this he's banned.
He was not allowed back in and the festival that
he was getting ready to headline, Wireless completely thrown out
the entire festival not.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
But did wireless not know that before they booked him,
because don't forget, he was already banned from the US
from the UK. Remember when he did all those so
called anti semitic, you know comments, they had banned them.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Then based up and said, I believe yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
That Yeah, So I'm trying to understand why would they
book him if he was already banned from.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Now maybe they thought, Okay, maybe it's it's over. Maybe
maybe get him a past, get.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Him a past, we'll figure this out.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's hard to get that pass
because you got to think, like and I I I
just I don't want to say anything that's going to
put me in hot water.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
But no, don't.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Don't you understand.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Like once you go there and those guys get upset,
they kind of control entertainment, fashion and music. So it's
like it's hard to kind of come out of it.
So I don't see how think, Yeah, I don't think
how very very sensitive. So I don't think how they
were so naive to believe that they can take them
out of that bandmanship m h that soon.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
He did apologize and a few times and now understands
that actions are louder than words.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
But I think it's a good lesson in disguise though,
because you know. But at the same time, also believe
that people should be entitled to their opinion, to be honest,
because because yet because they feel that.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Way don't make it real and just.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
And just because they feel that way don't mean that
they should be punished for feeling a certain way. Because
everybody has their reason for why they feel the way
they feel, and I think we should all be entitled
to our feelings, if not our speech.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
True true, But his feelings got in the way of
business again. Boom. Folks from here always hit you.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
That's a wild situation to be in.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
He's got the product, yeah, but I mean the good
thing about yeah. At this point, now he has a
solid base that's actually culted. So no matter what he
does or where he does it, he's gonna pull a
good turnout. So even if they say, okay, cool, I
can't do it in the UK, Yank himself can say
I will funk it. I will do it in America
he can rent a fucking.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
He sold out so far, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
He's just sold out so far exactly eighty thousand people
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And again two nights, right, he can do that anywhere
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And it didn't feel in there at all. I didn't
get a magna vibe in there. I didn't get none.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
So he's not gonna He's not losing. If anything, you know,
the UK loses for that experience, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, and for every artist that was on the bill
that that doesn't get to perform, you know that.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
But they could have kept they could have kept it going.
I think I think it would have still did it well.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
The sponsor the sponsors is a rap.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Pepsi pulled out Pause, who else, PayPal, Diagio, all of them, YEA.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Major sponsors that.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
But wait a minute, wait wait every sponsor.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I'm completely confused now, So you mean to tell me
when they announced that Ya was headlining, they didn't know
Ya was headlining before they sponsored.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I guess not.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I think because relationship just trusted them.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Maybe it was.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
The Pepsi that pulled out.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So Pepsi has been the Wireless festival sponsor for ten years,
so they had their lows and Breandan everywhere. So no
matter what, they already were.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
They had to have known.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
There's no way they didn't know, because normally when they
depositing that kind of money, you already have your set
lists or your headline.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Least least I wouldn't say, like.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Like confirm headline, you sponsors, you do have.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
A tentative headline for the next five years of who
you plan to get. Sometimes you can swap them out
last minute, of course, but you haven't. You have to
have an idea of what your five year projection is.
So you have to and in order to get that,
you have to know who's going to be headlining according
to those numbers, and hopefully those numbers project into the
next five years. They're not just giving you the millions
of dollars just on a wing bro like they figured
these numbers out. So they had to have known that
(27:48):
Yay was going to be headlining this year before you
think what happened was what happened was Yay did that,
and then they probably was like, well, how was gonna
affect the wireless Let's just wait and see where this goes.
Then they got all the way up to this point,
and then you got this war and Iran, you got
(28:09):
all this stuff that's happening in Gaza, and it all
made all this look.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
A little crazy.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
So the risk, the risk is what they're mitigating. It
ain't what he said already, it's what he could say
with day's temperature of what's going on politically, right, So
they were worried about what They're worried about what he
could say because they can't control what Yea he says
and when he says it, and right now is not
a good time for any anti Semitic remarks or any
(28:36):
bad remarks under that community right now.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And Yea has a voice of a fucking megalophone.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
So they was like, well, I don't know if this
is a good time for this situation with a risk
we can't control.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Wow, that's what happened. Wow, if I had to make
an evaluation.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
So he's gonna bring that American energy over here and
he's gonna say some wild shit.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You just can't control what he's gonna say, unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
And then there's Pepsi's logo.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
There's it's billions of steak, billions, billions of steak.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Jesus, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
So yeah, bring it back to the States.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I mean, now, I don't know if you know the
States is going to be like, well, now we can't either.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I mean, at this point, you just got a cruise.
You gotta just chill. Yeah, you gotta just yeah, you
gotta an air out.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, and just kind of kind of kind of in
so many words, just kind of regenerate those relationships.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And you know, fix them.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, actions is everything, like you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Have you had a chance to talk to Gaga?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I know you guys had a super long, iconic relationship.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Have you had a chance to I'm still trying to
get a hold of her.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
I wanted to. I wanted to congratulate her. I fucking
loved her super Bowl performance, like fucking body that ship.
Yeah yeah, but after she changed her number, Damn, I
think I think she changed the number.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I can't get ahold of her.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
No, but no, seriously, like I think, man, she fucking
I was proud, like she really bodied that ship.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Man, you gotta do a Latin record now, you have to, baby,
like you gotta do it. You gotta do it, you
gotta do it, you gotta do it.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
You and Carol g gotta get on the record together.
That would be amazing, That's what I'm seeing. I would
gladly produce that ship. But I saw that immediately.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
N Carol g Lady got a collar, crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Crazy, that would be unbelievable. Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
When she came out when when the wedding scene bad
Bunny and it opens and there.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
She what that was?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Instantly, instant, like I saw the light. He just got hot.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Whatever happened to Kobe have done?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Oh no, we're actually about to work his record start.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I think we're gonna it's uh April. I want to
say it's the first speak of April.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
I don't know exact day, but we're about to start
servings and all the records wow with services record right, yeah, yeah,
So we wanted to kind of push it first virally.
I mean we we dropped it last month. It's over
thirty million views on YouTube right now. It's called Locked
Up with You Featuring Me, and now we're going to
go straight for radio. I want to get the numbers
to a certain level before we went to radio with its.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He's back back. Yeah, it's crazy. It's a big record.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So what was happening like between the time of the
era of like what you got?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Oh man, life life, Yeah, life, was life and man,
and he had a very intricate, difficult I would say
interesting relationship with his dad, and his dad was one
of the main reasons why his career didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Go to where it needed to go.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Because I've heard about it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
But eventually, now for the last I think, I want
to say three and a half four years, his dad
had passed away, so it opened up his door now
to be doing what he's doing now. So he's back
in the music fully speed and he's moving.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Good for him.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
That's awesome that you're there for them.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
For yah.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
I was happy that I was actually when he needed
me to be there. But because it could have been,
it could have got a lot worse, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
Man, and the unit, my guy, the unit.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm good and I'm good.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It looked really good.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Well actually at the time, you know what, cruising me said,
this at that time looked great.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I thought it looked good too.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
But ever since I did this, I felt like, this
looks a lot better, and I couldn't believe I left
it in my head that long.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
It does look better this way, it does. But the
unit looked clean.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
But it only looks clean when it's fresh after four days.
Oh they the maintenance is unbelievable. And I used to
have it in that like a week, two weeks, sometimes
three weeks no maintenance. It looked like a rug. I like, yeah,
I need a vacuum for this. And then when you
(32:56):
overseas like places like Germany where ain't no black people,
I can't no wave grease like and if no, don't,
God forbid, I lose my wave cap.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh man, it's it was overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's not worth it.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
It works out better.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
You don't recommend the I do recommend it if you
can keep it maintained.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
It's like it's like a chick with a wig, like
a chick or you know. Yeah, if you can't maintain it, bro,
it's gonna look like it's gonna be all tamed.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I will say this.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
There's there's no there's no shame in the unit. Man,
I don't care. After I thought about it, you feel me,
you know what I mean, because I'm like, I gotta
do something. But it actually it works for you, like you,
the implants work better, but on black hair, implants don't work.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I went to go do that first. I went to Turkey.
For the implant. No, no, they did. They did everything
they were supposed to do.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Like, but the problem is, our hair curls so before
it leaves the scap, it's already curling in.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
So even though they kind of opened up the follicles,
it don't.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
It don't push through the scalp because it curls white.
And Hispanic hair works perfectly because it's straight. It comes
comes right out, so it'll work really good. You go
to Turkey, bro, you'd be like the teenager all over again.
Really yeah, Turkey, Turkey.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
They they the best at it is the best. You
should do it, you, bro.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
You won't even notice it.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
It's not an operation.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I wouldn't want to call it the operation. It's not procedure.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
It's a procedure, but it's it's but you you up
and awoke the whole time. It's not something you gotta
be put to sleep for another that stuff. Okay, No,
like it worked, bro, you would think you were coming
right out of No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It's your actual hair. Yes, all they do.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
All they do is wake up the hair follicles and
the ones is dead. That bob them somehow with laser.
Like it's like it Bro, your hair grows like you
as a teenager.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
We can't figure this out in burd Bank.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
They do in America, but it's so expensive.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
It's you pay close to one hundred grand. You go
to Turkey. You doing it for like thirty five hundred,
five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Wow? Yeah, you see the difference.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
And they cover your flights, they cover your hotel, and
all they need from you is a simple post.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
What that's it?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Shoot the why I gotta tell the world.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
I gotta tell the world that I went there, which
is fine. I don't give the who cares?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
You'd be right back like you be cruise from you
goddamn twenty.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Eight, twenty eighteen, play Bealley Dancer, Boom.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
You're nineteen ninety eight back again.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
It's crazy. Yeah, Bro, all right, Turkey, you know the place.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I look you up. I got you real locky right in,
Lock me in, Bro, I connect you right in with them.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Okay, too easy.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
They tried on me. Just they't work my head too black,
really it's too curly, and it worked, but it worked
for you.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
I was thinking about you for your Turkey sounds crazy
so oh also too, they do very good work in
Korea as well too, Korea.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Just further Korea skincare.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Though, skincare and hair as well. Real females like career
better because they're more sensitive with it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But for us, man go to Turkey too easy, Yeah,
two easy.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
All right, We're going to Turkey, all right. A new
album on the way, new.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Dang, new album on the way, absolutely beautiful, iconic in
the way. April twenty fifth, I mean April twenty fourth.
And then of course you already know what it is.
A Konic that's way down the lines.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Way down the line.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
The interview.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
You've got the tour.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
We got the tour with nice like this, Me and
my boy Neil.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Wow in Inglewood on the twenty first of August.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Up in August.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
We are here.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, dog, congratulations A coming.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
I think this is the last stop. La Is the
last time. It's the last stop. So we're bringing people out.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I mean, you know how la is. It's impossible to
come to l A and not bring people out.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
They're gonna come to the show and be like, Nigga,
you're bringing me out. They're like, man, the show is
already I mean, it's already set up. I don't know,
it's like, I don't care, they're gonna walk out LA.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
They don't find a way. I'm trying to figure out
how not.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
To have a bad way because the show is programmed,
so it's hard to fit them in. But this one
in LA, I may have to unprogrammed and just go.
I might just have to you know, Yeah, we have
to do.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Something, bro.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, we'll be there. I've been to
an a con show. You guys have been to a
console You've been to a conshole.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta go have fun.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Dude, we went what was it like, two years ago?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Years ago?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
I think, yeah, oh my god. We were so lit
at that concert. It was just like banger banger, banger,
banger bang.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, we'd be having so much fun.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Man. Oh yeah man, Hey, co appreciate the end of
time of course. In the catalog, Hey John, everybody a
Cruise Show.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Hey Jacking Rich from the Cruse Show. Thanks for listening
to the Cruise Show podcast. Make sure to subscribe and
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Speaker 2 (37:32):
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