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August 4, 2026 41 mins

Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and hitmaker Eric Bellinger joins The Cruz Show to discuss his deeply personal self-titled album, the growth that inspired it and being on tour with Usher & Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's good. It's a lot of what's good. Dis Vin stipend,
what ups Muscle?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You're checking out the Cruise Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Make sure to subscribe right yea?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Eric Lingers here, Bro, I want to remind people Eric
Bellinger has over thirty albums. Yes, over thirty bodies of work.
Thirty bodies out there on all streaming blasts.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
True, ain't that.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
There ain't that way. That's a lot, Bro, that's a
lot of music in regulation.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's all I gotta say. Congratulations thirty. Who's doing thirty albums?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Thirty thirty? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm sure we look bad.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Don't know the R and B scene you know, you
know you got the mix tape, weazy, you got future.
But on the R and B side, quality and quantity
thirty thirty?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
What was the goal? Was the goal? Thirty was the goal?
Just let's just keep.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Going nah every day. The goal is to be able
to do what I love. And by doing that.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
It's dacked records and it was just having an influx.
And it's like either you can let it collect dust
or you can let it collect royalties.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Put it all out there. And on top of that,
We're also writing music for so many others as well creating.
It's writing.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
It's still new single dropping this Friday flow you know
what I mean. Wrote their next single featuring K One
produce one of My dog KP.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah. Still doing both actively currently.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes, permanently. That's you living your life man. Eric Belns
your self titled album might go self title Yo. I
discovered Eric Bellinger myself like this me right like yo,
this is me new self, new self journey, new healing.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
And I've had a lot of time and I've gotten
older and a lot more wiser, a lot a lot
of no's and now understand why you know they were
nos at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It was just protection rather than rejection. And I found a.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Way to like put all of that into music and
it's like, all right, I'm proud of this.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
This one can bear my name.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Was there a point what shifted in I guess your
mentality for you to be like, okay, I have to
find myself in order to produce this type of music.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Man. I think for a minute, I had just tried
a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I went and did an afrobeast album, I did a
couple of afro albums.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
I went to talking about that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
You know, and I was just vibing and took a
break really from R and B. And when we were
working again, my manager Lee was like, Yo, for this approach,
let's let's do it different. Let's go get in with
the musicians, you know, let's you know what about this topic.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Have you ever written about you know, this or that
or this or that?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
And I think by going the old traditional way, it
just gave us timeless classic music.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So each song you're gonna feel rather than just here. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
That's why even like Crime Front Cry in front of
you man, like it doesn't feel digital at all, right,
you know what I mean? And I feel like in
this digital space where like you know, even AI is
taking over and like everything can just be done like
on a doll, Like having that real sound is necessary
right now.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
There's dope that you can hear the difference.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I wasn't sure, you know, because I like both, you
know what I mean, I can understand both, but to know,
like damn they can tell that this ain't that and
that yeah the.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Goal because you know I talked about that, let's be.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Clear, super duper clear right here. Yeah, But when it
comes to AI, you. You have a hand in AI, right,
you appreciate AI artists.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I appreciate it. I think it's I think it's dope
to you know, be able to at least experiment, you know,
and instead of seeing what's going like I'm an innovator
for real, I'm a pioneer for real.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
And I can't say that if I didn't try, and
I don't know what's happening over there.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm only going over there and everything like touches, No,
I gotta go to the dark so greener.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, but you like the feel live.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Like yeah, So that's that's my thing. But with this music,
with this album, this is like, oh my god, shout
out to Troy Taylor, shout out to Harmony Samuels, Chris
Riddick Man. We got Tony Dixon, we got KP, we
got you know, Oak and his whole crew that did
the the the single Crime Front of You. And these
are the big dogs. These are really the big dogs,

(04:25):
you know. So I'm excited to be working with people
that I'm a fan of that I've always worked with
them on the songwriting tip for other artists.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Now it's just for you, yeah, And in return, they
have to be a fan of you as well.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
It's just right they do you know you can't, you know,
especially as a songwriter that is transitioning and doing all
these you know, wearing all these hats as a producer.
They're only trying to work with the you feel me
like it is what it is. And I've learned that
on my journey because at times it was like, you know,
in the beginning, like, yo, what's up. I'm trying to
get that song that we did, you know, I'm trying

(04:58):
to get that song. It's like, yeah, like I gotta
I got an opportunity for that song for Chris Brown
or for you know, whoever it may be.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
And I'll be like, all right, I get it. I
never hate it. I just wait in my turn.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Be patient, be patient, be patient, man.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, what's for yous? For you? Man? I don't even now.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's like I don't even want what ain't I because
I don't know what to do with it. I don't
know the German engineering steering.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Over there, hoop over here, like it looks cool steering
with on the right, it does get in an accident
if you don't understand that the lanes are also the
opposite way.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Sure, sure, yeah, hell yeah your fatherhood fun song to
make the best best you know, I was the best.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Job in the world, remember Will Smith you like you know,
I was like always be thinking about that the whole time.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I was like, I need something that. It ain't gotta
be little man. You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Let's go, let's go real R and B it says
a comedic. This is like true feelings of becoming a man,
not even just a father, a man.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know, you know, Chuck got the snip sniff too.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Are you done?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
You're smart?

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Are you done?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
He's smart. I'm dumb mentally Physically he's mental.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Bro Hey, Mentally always fails, you dog. When it comes
to that, the plumbing always wins, bro. He said the
yeah the pipeful Birds Gang.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Eight.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Dude, he's done mentally, but you never know.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, no, I'm trying to be Physically, You're you're.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
An R and B artist, an incredible R and B artist.
There there's music and making love and making babies. Stop playing, man,
I think we did our job. A dog like wait,
I got three kids now, hike, So forseect me in
the near future.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, I'm thinking. So I'm thinking. So I'm trying to
figure it out. You're not even you know, research Intel data.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
But I'm a fan. I'm defin behind it. You know
what I'm saying. The ideology of it.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Slows things down. Things in the moment.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, especially you know what I'm saying when you're doing
your thing like me, I'm a married man.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know what I'm saying. I shouldn't have to pump
the brakes. Ever, I should not.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Would you don't want to shoot that club up? And
then you have a brother, new one all the way,
new one.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
There it is. You know, we just got married. Congratulated.
I knew he was like three weeks three guys.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
How you feeling, Yeah, that's what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Already shoot the club up next year.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh yeah, I was like, I only got as a dog.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
To protected me before kids.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
No blitzing over here, no blitzing.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
We're gonna keep a party of two. Nah, once one
kid comes and the next one, and then you know
you have the.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Second one kind of just like me as.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
A second child. I'm like, and then it's just like.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
You've given me dadvice plenty of times. But you how
do you parent one versus the other, Like, is there
a style for you that you from your first one
that's different from me?

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, you know, I just learned that. I'm still learning that,
I think, definitely. But they're so different.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
When I had both of them, I approached them the
same way. But man, this one was the goofy one.
This one's kind of serious. So I can't tell the jokes.
He's gonna look at.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Me like like, what's your problem?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
So it's just a yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Each time, it's like a right, you have to proach
like this, you okay, if I want to show some
Instagram videos, I know we do sports, you we got
a low key do coloring videos, you know, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes, it's just very like intentional.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Do you apologize to your kids?

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah I recently did, like two days ago, I
apologize to my son.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Maybe losing your temper or you let a curse fly.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
I think.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
So I've been on tour for a little while and
I'm parenting in the same manner that I was even
a month ago.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
My wife is like, yo, he's grown. He doesn't even
do that anymore. Hmm.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I assumed he was about to do something that
was an old pattern that I was used to. I
didn't give him the benefit of doubt that he might
have fixed it. So instead I just said, before he
said what I thought he was gonna say, I said,
don't even say.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I don't want to hear it. Mm And he was
like what, I.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Wasn't gonna say anything. But I'm like, I know what
you was going to say, bro, I know how you
get down. And after talking to my wife, I was like,
all right, cool, I let him know, like, Yo, sorry
about that.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
I didn't give you a chance. I apologize. It's just
we hugged it out.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Isn't that amazing? I think I think that teaches them
accountability them that Listen. I grew up with my father apologizing.
I should know when to apologize as well. Yes, and
help and hold themselves up, you know, to a certain
standard and be accountable for their mistakes.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It's true.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Being on tour so much, do you ever feel like
you miss out on your kids' lives just a little bit?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah? Man, I do. Like at first, it was like, nah,
I be there, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Because I do be there when I can't be there,
And I know I'm like so there that it's like, whoo,
I'm going crazy when I'm there. But I just missed
the tournament in Vegas. You know what I'm saying. I
just miss Hurricane Harper. You know what I'm saying like
these little things is like.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I would have went and I would have made you
enjoy it, murk because I knew how to go to
the fast line.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
We would have more fun.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
So you know, I had to actually eat that too.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Recently, it's like, oh my god, yeah crazy right though
you know we're here, what is that doing?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
That is crazy the world? Yeah, that brings it home,
so everything can happen.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
But it's cool that you're also like going through that,
like learning that about yourself and learning still learning that
self of awareness while also putting out this music of
like a self titled album. It's like the growth. Just
because you put out a self titled album doesn't mean
that the girl stops there.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
This is true. It just keeps going. It has to
keep going.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
And I think with them seeing me also live my
dreams inspires them to know because even though I'm maybe
on the road or this, this and that.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
My youngest son yesterday was like I want to be.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
An R and B singer like you Wow, Okay, there's
still enough, you know, in there to still want to
be just like his dad.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Not great, but not too much like you? Right, like
to have certain things that I have. But the less
of me they are, the better.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I think you're going too with the desires there.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
All right, I'm doing right, I feel you, you know, Like,
that's why I didn't name either one of them.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Junior, do what I mean? I'm junior.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
It's cool, shout out, pops. But I was just like, yo,
let me get them their own little lane.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
See how they do.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Do you think kids should know if their parents smoke weed?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
You know, it's an interesting one because I still be
hiding that joint.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I still be like, and how old are your kids?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Seven and eleven?

Speaker 5 (12:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think, yeah, I still be hiding it. I don't,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
But it's interesting because there's hookah happening around the house,
and I'm like, what's the difference.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Do they see the hookah pipes and all that?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Do they question it?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
But I don't think that they are frowning upon it
because the way it was presented to them, you know
what I mean, It's kind of like, hey, this is
what you know, what I mean adults, And now I'm
numb to them seeing that. But I think because I'm
aware of we being extremely frowned upon by society and

(13:08):
in general nowadays, it's like, yo, I don't want them
to see me doing that the same way they see
me on stage and say I want to do that,
and like, yo, let me go over here and rip
one real quick.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Like, even if my friends are doing it, something in
their head will be like dad doesn't.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
So it must be cool.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know, it must work for him, So it's gonna
work for me, right And at what point do you
tell them, because they could smell it one day and
be like, that's what my dad was. That's my dad
smelled like. And and now they're putting two and two together.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Now you know, I'm doing my job in protecting as
long as I can.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
But you know, at the end of the day, Pops
is still Pop's gotta have a life too, you know
what I mean. I know Jody Mama gotta have a life,
but Pop's do. I ain't gonna be.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Our parents had their vices too, right.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, man, And I think they I think that was
a lot of stuff too that I found out My
parents were like not necessarily showing me, but recent like
later on found out like, yeah, I used to what
you know, So it made it okay in my mind.
So when I once I felt that like okay. So
when I found out about my grandma or my mom,
I was like, it made it feel like it's cool,

(14:26):
but really it's like that's not what I want. You
know what I'm saying, I'm not about to be like yo,
because at the end of the day, I didn't smoke
to I was older than thirty, you know what I mean.
Like it was something that I was aware that it
could potentially slowed down the pursuit and hunger potentially. I

(14:49):
stayed away from it, and I feel like once everything
was in order, back to the album.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know what I'm saying, I'm good now. I it's
just chill.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I can But if you're like.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
And it's like now that I've got everything on point, yeah,
now when I'm still out here trying to make sure
the bills is pay, make sure the bills pay now,
I'm prioritizing some gung.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Nah, I was far away from it until I feel
mean until you.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Got it together one percent. I think that's what has
to be communicated to kids, if you know from their
parents smoke weed or whatever. Like, yeah, I smoked, but
I did. I was able to accomplish so much without it.
But now as I get older, I view it as medicine.
I don't know, whatever you gotta.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Do hundred medicinal. That's the vibe. Yeah, yeah, man, that's
a vibe.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
But it isn't spoken about a lot, but that is
definitely the thing.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Like, yo, I didn't smoke to thirty years old, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
So if you do see me and you and you're like, yo,
he smokes, just know that, you know, I really made
sure that I buckled down and locked in and was
focused before went with the Marley mantra.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Eric Bellinger self titled album We Have Fatherhood, We have
City in front of you, just like you that that
have that are out now on all streaming platforms, right
just like you? Uh you know, break that down?

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, just like you is the song that is paying
homage to my mom.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Oh, to my mom.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
It's like, yo, I am who I am, rest in peace.
Moms always wanted to be just like you wow. Yeah,
in every way, in every way, like the way she
moved her faith.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
She a good friend, great friend, great friend.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Is she a parent and a friend or a.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Parent and a friend? Yeah, car rides. I'm on the phone, Mom.
You know what I'm saying, like traffic, You know what
time it is? I just called to say, yeah, anyway.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
So what you're doing Once you lose moms though, Man,
everything changes. Man, it doesn't matter how old you are.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
It really doesn't.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
And it's something that you're never able to prepare for,
you know, especially whether that's your best friend or not.
I think you wake up like, wait a minute, that
is my birth Now. That is my reason for everything.
That's my reason for breathing. Like she carried me, like
you know, so it hits, you know, and especially for
me with that being like man, best friend and being

(17:20):
there with her for the past like few months before
she passed, I was like right there, like taking her
to the hospital and taking her to a yalysis and
at the end she wasn't able to speak. So We're
driving places and I'm just talking to her and I'm
just having conversations like I know you hear me, and

(17:43):
that type of grief began while she was still.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Here, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
So wow, it's something that I was living with even
while she was here.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
So it's almost like a harsh preparation.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, it is exactly, because it's like, you don't know
what this is, especially like you're not talking.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm praying with you. I'm spending time with you. I
don't know what's going on though, but I'm praying with you.
And I see you at peace.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
With records just just like you like and you talk
about stuff that's so emotional and so personal to you.
But then you also being a songwriter, you do you
ever find this like battle of like, Okay, I'm writing
a song maybe based off a personal experience, but now
I'm giving it to somebody else to tell it. Do

(18:32):
you ever battle with like I don't want them to
tell my story.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I made it to where if I do write for them,
I only want to write about their shit, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
But it's like, yo, what's up before the session starts?
What's up man? How you doing going on?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
It's on your mind? What's on your heart?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, because now they're connected to it, and I don't
feel like that because that's a real thing too. You
know there are songs that I put my heart and
soul into, but there is no like ah, you know yesterday,
I just use the song Indigo Chris Brown as my
like song. That's one of my favorite songs I've ever

(19:13):
written in my catalog anyone else's catalog. And it's just
because everything is saying it's like tapped in higher frequency.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Third eye chakra is like, that's my whole shush.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
But at the end of the day, his platform and
the people that it will be able to reach, it's important.
I will selflessly do that and write another one.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right. Wow, is Indigo being performed on tour with us?
You and Chris Brown?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Not this that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Last tour, last tour, one hundred percent last He's got
a six.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Time is different because, yeah, they're sharing it. So I've noticed,
like you know what I mean, It's like, yo, it's
urser ceb Like we all got hits, you know what
I mean. So slim pickens, slim.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Pickings, you gotta you gotta the hits between the heads,
the hits between the hits. It's and they go up
and down like sometimes they do this one tonight or
that one tonight. But time is just like, man, these
are these are just these are the classics that we
grew up on. It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Collaborator, both of them. But that's yourself that's on the stage.
What is it like after you're done your stage?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, yep. I've been watching the show every night. I like,
do my part and then I go back and I change,
and I just.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Check out the show. What are you taking?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Oh man, I'm taking it. I'm taking and performing my
adjustments every night.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I noticed that when Chris was flying upside down in
that area, he's still locked.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
In on a fan, always a student. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
You no reason that I'm not actually like and then
rather than performing, Hey, you're here to see me.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
No, no, no, no no, I'm here to see you.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
That's why I'm up here. Hey see all of you?
Exactly who's winning in the verses?

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Usher see Breezy.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think it's gonna be a fifty to fifty tie.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'd be watching every night, lookie, and I see people
like coming in like this person, this person, I'm like,
you need that.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
You need that?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah, both both have their things like that even fair.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
You know what I'm saying, They're both.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Here, so it's like, can we just get a tie
on this?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
What do you think of the verses with you know,
with the game and watching that was crazy, right bro,
that's off that to kill your man.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
And I was tuning in the whole time.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
I was in my hotel room, glad we had a
night off, and I was just watching that joint entertained,
you know what I'm saying, like shing, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
It did well take number that night. Yeah, don Juli
one the Color Red, one Color one, the Homies one.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Homies won.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
That's my last song on Instagram and I just used
you know, that's when I'm DJ with this post right here.
You know what I'm saying, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
How do the women get selected to go on stage
at a tour for at a concert?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
You know? Every night I literally see Chris look out,
he looks.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Out there, he's doing the scouting.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, like you that's all that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It was crazy to Syracuse show that sure before he
picked his girl, he was like, all right, I can
make you famous.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Hey, And when he said it, I was like, you
can go viral?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Always not lying.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
They literally, I can make you as a liberty overnight
girls on Nightline Bro, she was doing an interview.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I'm like, hello Nightline gang.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Hey bro, everybody got a team, bro, everybody.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
She was too outside, like, how she are you on
the Hotel TV game? You're on Press Power, You're on.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You're on television. You're talking about the girl that was
you know, they had the energy up there right, yes, Stiffy,
that's fun.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I was. I was just like, Wow, that's crazy, it's real.
But it's time, you know. I think that's what they
were going after.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
You know, Chris in the beginning of the tour was like, yo,
we gotta show them why we us next thing.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
You know, I'm like, oh, okay, I feel you. That's
what time it is. It's a different level.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's a different level, different level.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Everybody can't do that. Oh you can't. Even if you
wanted to have seen the dudes making the memes on
the roof baby we got Chris Brown at home baby,
Yeah right, good luck?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Sorry, sorry, would be like that.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
It's like that. It's like that, but you know it's
a good cause.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's always for a good balls.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
R and B back, R and B is here. They
said they made a hundred million already. It's bad. Let's
go clearly m J billion.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, the biopic crazy out of here?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
What we do?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Mm hmm. Have you heard of Magnus Farrell.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I have heard of it.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
That's uh, Will Ferrell's son. He's an R and B singer.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, I did see him on the ground fire.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
What do you think, like a Robin is there is
there space for Magnets?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I think so for sure that's always going to be
you know, a laying especially.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
He could sing. Yeah, it's crazy, it's very high. That's
a high register.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, that's the thing that ladies let that falsetto, you
know what I mean. So that's when you think Maxwell,
you know what I mean? Even Robin Thick just ty relate.
Magnus got some, Magnus got some. You know, you got action,
you got motion, Magnus motion. Will Ferrell is one of

(25:29):
us bro.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yes, he is bro legend bro. So it's all good.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Definitely rooting.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
That's great, man, Jack.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
When you talked about this album, you talked about more
going the traditional sense. What traditional I guess aspects stood
out to you when making this album, whether that was
a songwriting, process, recording process, what was it?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
More so just the metronome at the beginning of the session.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
So each time we will begin a session, I'm like, wow,
let's see what instrument it's picked up first. Sometimes it's
a guitar, sometimes it's a piano. But it allowed me
to write from the root of consumption. So now I'm

(26:17):
not writing to a finished track with post production and
double dutch trying to get in where I fit in,
like melody works here.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Now I'm actually helping shape the instrument that he chooses next.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
The melody that he chooses next could be bouncing off
the melody that I was singing and humming in the corner.
So now we're working together subconsciously. So it was just
that experience that keeps you in control.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
For sure. It's just a wide open canvas.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I was able to write this album with an open
canvas every time, from the.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Concept to the creator of the music.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
And even when I was done writing, a producer like
Oak was still vocal producing me to do harmonies that
still sound like instruments, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
So usually it's like, all right, songs, good, I'm done.
He's like, hold on, I hear this hold on.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I hear this same thing with Tony and Troy was like,
hold on, try this note. And I think they were
able to push me. Normally I do the pushing. So
you're gonna hear the difference, You're gonna feel the difference.
I put some snippets up video for everyone because it's serious.
I don't want you to see it. I need you
to I don't know. I want you to just hear it.

(27:42):
I need you to see it, feel it. I need
you to.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Wake up some more of them senses. I need at
least three of them, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, I need everybody's attention so you know they know
what we got coming.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
And it's just missing in today's day and age.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, what's missing?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is it the honesty, the honesty, the vulnerability and vulnerability
mis education of Laurence Hill. Like when that dropped, it
was like, this is different, you know what I'm saying,
Like this just sounds different, it feels different.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
The drum patterns are different, and I feel the same.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Like when we heard Kline folded, it was like, huh,
you know what I'm saying. It's like you have to stop,
it's not your you know what I'm saying, It's not
your normal thing that you're hearing nowadays, and I feel
like that's the only way to stand out, just to
carve a lane for yourself, and you know, make sure
that what you're doing we can't get anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
You know.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
You talk about like the process of from the beginning,
like the starting of the metronome and everything like that,
Like how quickly do you figure out the tone and
the mood of a song?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah? Is it based on a regiment.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Or based off the first line that you write?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
It's no, it's basically not even ther It could be
any instrument. But if there's a major and a minor chord,
you know what I mean right away? If they play major,
I'm happy they play minor. Room sad and tempo can
determine if it's fast, it's like a party, if it's
slows like badroom or love.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So those are two points that were made for me
before I even started writing.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
So I listen to the music and I respond. I'm
a reactive writer rather than a proactive writer. You know,
I can if I want to write and then make
the beat around it. But I respond well in life
as well as man. I think that just also comes
from football. I always be like referencing football. It's like, yo,
if the person blocks this way, you know what I'm saying,

(29:43):
I'm running that way, you know. So with the music,
I'm able to listen to it and just move accordingly.
So the mood and tone will tell me what it is.
But then I know how to like hear the music
and then just go laugh too. I'm not gonna write
the obvious.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Nothing, you know what I'm saying. It's gonna be like
we're gonna have the same beat.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I need to make a show or something like, because everybody,
if everybody has one beat, everybody's gonna write something.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I mean, it's something totally different.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I love that about music. It's no wrong way to
heat the races. But people are gonna be feeling one
of them the most. They gonna feel one of them
a little more because there's a certain formula.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Tactics that you you gain by paying attention to human behavior.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yes, yeah, in the room, reading the charts, having conversations,
having conversations. I listen to your music and I feel
like you're having a conversation with either the listener, the consumer,
or the person that the song is about. Yes, it's
it's it's more of a conversation than a.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Song, exactly exactly and a story.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
You know, I'm not trying to write two bars three
bars where it's like, oh, that was a type bar.
This song is connected. The verse is such a cliffhanger.
You can't wait to get to the pre chorus.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
And now the pre chorus built your anticipation to hear
the moment news and it's the payoffs.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Oh and now you're locked in boom second verse. Tell
you all my Now, I'm breaking it down. I'm going
deeper into what I was saying at the moment I
new is when I cried in front of you. But
it's like why people make songs, And I still don't
know why.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
My whole shit is why this is why?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
This is the set up in the answer, set up
in the answer, over and over again.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's a repeated formula that I don't know any other
song follows it. But people get in the studio and
try to be smarter than the system.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
No, go play any song on the radio and listen.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Stop, wait a minute, you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro,
these ain't accidents.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
So people don't pick up those formulas. It's a I.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Almost trying to break the rule, or the arrogance, arrogance, conceitedness.
They think they know what it itIt is. No, you're
not gonna reinvent the whill Listen to my favorite song
of all times. Smokey Robinson wrote this song called the
Way You Do The Things You Do by the Temptations,
some of my favorite song all times. And when you

(32:24):
listen to that song, you understand why I know how
to write because I listened to that song and I
studied it. Go listen to as pretty as you are.
You know what I'm saying, all the words that they say,
I don't even I want you to go do homework,
you know what I'm saying, Like you're so smart. It's
sometimes though you could be a school book. It's like, oh,
you know what I mean simple, It's like the way

(32:46):
you do the things you do, Yeah, you knock me
off my feet. You could have been a broom, you
know what I'm saying, Like what small soul?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Bright?

Speaker 1 (32:53):
You could have been a candle. Yeah, you know all
those little things is like the why and the answer
the answer, Yeah, you have the set up and the.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Takedown locked in, even dre and it's going down basement.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
It's the story.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know what I'm saying, Yo, Why you do the
weekend like that?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Bro? I didn't.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
I just was being real for real because it was
like he just asked like, is he a singer? He
said to me singing?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I was like, what you called him a billy goat? No?

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Because the tone that has like a raspy verbrado. Okay, okay,
it wasn't even shooting. That's why I was like, why
are you coming for me? I'm speaking facts because wait, wait,
because now these are here.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
But it's it's in a funny way or is this No,
it's real. That's what singers really talk about.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, you he asked me for real, like, Yo, is
he a sanger? Is he a singer? Do y'all think so?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I think so right? But what do I know? I
don't write music. I don't sing.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I s I n G.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, but not as ang Ah got it. This is
a song thing that it's not. He's not a soul
for singing, but he is. I said, he's a hit maker.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
He is.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
The songs are hit but they made it that part.
They want to talk about catalogs, about stages, worrow my singing,
bro relaxing, Like, you know, I think t Payin is
a singer too.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I think he think he's fired he I think I
think t Pa can sing auto tune, no auto tune.
He choose to do it once and he uh, you know,
did his thing with the auto tune and like carved
a sound for himself sick and people was just like
that's hard. But they didn't know that he was also
able to go crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Without I know you protect R and B. You protect
R and B.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You're on stage though with Chris Brown, Usher, Tank Mario,
like Haric Bellinger, like these are real you know, these
are real deal performers, right, these are real deal singers. Yes, sangers, sangers.
So so you feel do you feel like you have
to protect R and B?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I just feel like I gave it a pin and
people don't want you to have an opinion, which is cool,
I learned quick.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
No, but in your opinion matters, especially when it's someone
like yourself, Eric Belcher, Like you know what you're doing,
so your opinion matters. It olds weight, Yeah, thank you,
you know, so be proud of that thank you, nothing
wrong with it?

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Do you feel like also, like with people, the different
lanes that you have from the multiple hatches you wear,
do people respond to you differently from on stage on
stage in the booth?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, Pin and are like the.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Different levels of Eric Belancher. How do people respond differently
to that?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Ah Man?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I think people only know how to respond to the
Eric Belanzer that they're aware of, you know what I mean.
And I think that does me a disservice because they
don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
That I did that. They only know that I'm to
do this. But those people over there, they know I
do that. So when I go over there to do that,
it's treated properly because this is a proper soil for
it to blossom with the foundation.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
You can't, you know what I mean, blossom with a
seed and concrete, you know what I mean. But if
I went to some concrete and I had a you
know what I'm saying, a jackhammer, and it's just it's
like what you would be appreciated where you're actually appreciated, honestly.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Like where they know what you do. But I think
I do so many things that people are still learning.
They're still learning.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Let them catch up.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I love it. Yeah, I love it still new to
to so many people, you know what I mean. But
the ones that know, the ones that don't know, that's it.
And that's cool with me. Yeah, you know me at
the level you know me, and I'm so good and
comfortable with that.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Give it time this way, you're never, you're never you've
never peaked or you never peak, you still continue to grow.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Give yourself that.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Time and give the consumer the listener time too.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
It's dope because like being here with y'all, we we
fam you know what I mean. So it's just we
even with you, you know what I mean, Like I know,
like I don't, I don't know what is you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
You know. So it's like it's about the people learning it.
We can't assume that they know anything.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yo. You're back in La in September.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
At the Soul five. That's crazy, man. We outside. I'm
just grateful. I'm happy to be here. Shout out to
the bros. It's like the little cousin attacked.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Along, you know, Like bro, now, but one thing about
you is just open the door man.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
That's all I need.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's all I need.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Just unlocked the door. I got it.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It's beautiful. I holler at the seventy thousand and night,
I holler at I'm so happy.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
To be here.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Attitude gratitude.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's the attitude of gratitude. Seeing what are you talking about?
Did you get the call? Stop it? I'm so grateful.
Let's go crazy. We're here, Let's go crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I do have a question.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
My last thing, since folks are coming to the show,
coming to the tour, said a lot of folks crash out,
women and men. Yes, are there any guidelines that specifically
guys can take when they're taking their lady to this tour?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
When that part come, don't even say no, yo, funck
that bro, Just don't even say that what you're gonna do?
Like when it was a little kiddy, your mom used
to come your eyes on the rated ar. No, man, No,
it's like yo, it's just a year for the show.
It's just that and this that. But don't be like.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
Nay.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
If your lady gets chose, you just gotta let it happen.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
We not if your lady gets chose, that was lady.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
He knows that's what I'm talking about. If you wish
your woman and she goes like, if you get selected,
is to let her go?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Or is it a what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (39:04):
She decides? She decides, but.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
It should be a respectful decline. I will respectfully decline
because this is my man. Now, if we single you
here go there your best life. This is for you.
This is your moments are this.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Is all you.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Get the p R.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Soak it up?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Night Line where don't see you on the hotel?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Night life is crazy? For stiffing up? Nightline is wild.
It was wow. I couldn't believe it. There's a lot
of news we should recovering. There's a lot of world events.
Night nightlight is crazy. She went from the gram to nightline.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
That was crazy. What's that take?

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Eric Belinger the album on tour? Yeah, Yo on stage,
The Father, the Man, the Friend, We're here eight twenty one,
Eric Belinger's self titled album. Yes, this is this is
the one, This is the one, This is the one
is the one, not the two.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
To make sure y'all ap pre save that and you
can also hear a few songs right now before the
full album is released. You got crying front of you
there you got just like you. There, you got fatherhood
there and seven more songs will be yours.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
August twenty first, I'm proud of this body of work.
Thank y'all should be proud of it, man, Thank you song.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, there's there's there's there's some content the songs that
are out already that just make you want to rewind
and listen to it again. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Sure what was said and thought.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Of there amazing? Thank you appreciate that man. So I
love to y'all always.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Eric Belinger the album Get It.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
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