June 23, 2023 • 47 mins
Dave sits down with Chad Kroeger from Nickelback for an in depth interview where they touch on everything from the first time he heard his song played on the radio to his success today! As Chad said "This is one of the BEST interviews I've done!". Check it out now!
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No, no, I heard MediaPresents the Dave Riggarts Podcast. I got
you. I got you, Sonnyand share would be proud. You say,
did you say I got you inthe middle of a recording session?
Yeah? This is this is mystudio here at the UM at a house.
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Um so wow, it's in myold hay barn. But this is
where we've been recording for the lastnineteen nineteen years. What's a hay barn?
You have a barn? The girl? Hey, you have horses something?
What's going on there? No?I bought this a state that had
the horses. And then Um,I shanghaide the barn. I see,
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and now there's yours now yeah,and then the uh, the girl I
was engaged to three lifetimes ago.Um was distraught. She's like you like
she actually had horses at the time. There's a skishalet of a barn out
there that I've just converted into acomplete party house for all my puce and
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I turned every single one of thestalls into king's size bedrooms. So every
time they get drunk, they juststumbled twenty feet and they've got they've got
a bed to crash. And soyou have no idea. How jealous I
am of you right now because mywife has four horses, and I know
what it's like being with horse girls, and I would like very much to
convert my barn into a drunken flophousefor all my yes, or a recording
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studio. And I can't even singlike a rock star like you do.
And I wanted to tell you I'mgonna fanboy out for a little bit here.
I love nickel Back. Okay.I was watching some of your concerts
last night, and I was sittingthere watching these shows, and it occurred
to me, if I could magicallytransform myself into a rock star, I
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would be First of all, Iwould erase you guys, and I would
just totally copy you, because whatyou guys do is exactly what I would
want my rock hand to be.Well, that's funny, that's what I
did. Well, good eye,Yeah, I think it's a good plan.
I was watching your Your Red RocksColorado show. You guys are so
tight, it's so good, andthen I switched over to the Sturgis Show
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and one of the questions I wasgoing to ask you is do you have
a favorite place to play? Andif it isn't Sturgis. I don't know
why. That isn't the reason forthe reaction you get from the women there.
Yeah, that was a that wasa fun one. Um. Red
Rocks is pretty that's what. Thatone is pretty special just because it's a
natural amphitheater. For anyone who's listeningor watching and doesn't know what Red Rocks
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is, Red Rocks is probably it'slike forty five minutes outside of Denver and
it's this. It's a it's anatural amphitheater that's just carved by millions of
years of erosion, I'm assuming.Um, and you're inside these these clips,
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these red clips, and it's juststraight out of like Wiley Coyote,
you know, like like back inthe day that that's exactly what it looks
like. And then they just putseats in there and like the dressing rooms
are in caves. It's crazy.It's it's just really cool that that one's
a special one. But that Sturgisgig, Yeah, I mean it was.
That was a lot of fun.We had some guy hanging out like
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that. This is long before drones. I mean, we'd had a guy
hanging off the side of a helicopterin the middle of night, just circling
the gig, just getting all thoseall those you know, aerial shots,
and I'm just like everybody, seethat nutbar there, flip that guy off.
I got to imagine some shows aremore fun to do than others.
And the ones that I was watchingyou do last night, there's no way
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those weren't the fun shows, becausethey were. And then I watched you
do um it was a TV showand you guys were doing a zz Top
tribute. You're all dressed up inyour black suits, you got sunglasses on,
you're singing sharp dressed man, andyou did a killer version of it.
I watched you march out the runway. You march straight out in this
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long runway, one of those longrunways like a Victoria Secret show, and
you just jam and when crazy andyou look like you're not even trying,
like you were born to do this. And this is one of the great
things I love about Nickelback is thatyou guys, this is probably the same
compliment you hear all the time,but you guys sound like the record.
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You can tell there's no studio tricksgoing on, because you guys come out
and you play like you sound likewe hear when we download the music or
play it on the radio. Thankyou. Yeah, we put a lot
of effort into that full disclosure.We have taken a few of the songs
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and gone down a half step inkey just because these days, like Animals
is so hard to sing Animals isn'tthat difficult to sing? Animals is just
it's a marathon and a sprint atthe same time, because there's just there's
just nowhere to breathe. There justisn't any place to breathe. And so
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it's just like I'm driving black onblack, just got my lesses back,
I got this feeling in my veins. Train is coming in off the track.
I'll ask the blood if the devilneeds a ride it because the angel
alam my right, and hang hanout with me. And it just goes
on and on and yeah, andthen it goes higher and higher and higher,
and it's just it's so you know, we've we've we've done a couple
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of things to uh to uh.We're gonna do more things this tour,
to extend things instead of just thesongs just being like exactly how you hear
them on the radio. It's likethree and a half minutes and three and
a half minutes and like whatever theyare, we're gonna start extending some pieces
so I can actually catch my breath. Um, but wow, it's the
one thing I can tell you.It's good for Cardio. Yeah, you
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guys look good. Yeah. Infact, I want to I want to
tell you the look is good rightnow. I like this Captain America thing
you've been going on with the pastfew years. You guys, you guys,
do you look real good? Imean, you look like all business.
I know Metallica did that a longtime ago. I think it's a
good look for you guys. Um. Back to the difficulty of singing.
You know is a fan. Itnever occurred to me until I started talking
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to lead singers of rock bands.It never occurred to me that some songs
are really, really difficult for youguys. It's really challenged because a great
performer, great performers like you makeit look like rolling out of bed.
No, there's there's panic burned tothe ground, is you know? Damn
or impossible. It's just just screamingat the end, It's just just screaming
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and just like screaming and key,that's it. You do scream a lot,
a lot of screaming. Now,do you think a little while ago,
I don't remember what year was,but a little while ago you had
a you developed assist on one ofyour vocal cords. Yeah, and is
that something that just happens or isthat a wear and teary damage thing?
Um, So we think it wastwo. It was twenty thirteen, I
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believe is when the surgery was.And we think that because I had another
surgery, um a couple of yearsprior to that. And when they intibate
you, they stick that that tubedown into your lungs and then they you
know, force oxygen into your lungsso you don't die while you're unconscious on
the operating table. And they're prettysure that when they were shoving this tube
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in there, they nicked the vocalcord and created a weak point. And
then um, that's when the thenode developed. And then the node just
got bigger and bigger, and Iwas just I was just abusing the hell
of my out of my throat andthat node then finally turned into assist and
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it was just like you just couldn'tsing. I couldn't sing through it anymore.
It was just one of these thingswhere surgery was the only option.
I don't think I should have beenscreaming Pantera at the top of my lungs
at the last, like at theend of the former leg in Japan when
we were in I was in Ithink I was in Tokyo. I might
have been in Osaka. I'm notsure where it was. But I ended
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off that that run and yeah,and then just went out partying and screaming
at this rock bar, you know, all night long, and not like
taking care of the vocal cords andall because because up until that point I
just thought I was super human.When it came to screaming, I just
like I could party all night long. I could party till eight o'clock in
the morning and then get up andsing a show no problem, and just
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do that. And I've just beendoing that for twenty five years. And
I just I was like, nothingis, nothing's ever gonna take me down.
Well, yes, you know,one of us and it's not me,
but one of us has a fiftiethbirthday coming up, you know,
not tomorrow but soon, And doyou think that's part of it? Well,
I just turned forty eight, soI know I know I'm keeping I'm
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keeping the Big five oh at bayfor another another two cycles around the sun.
Um yeah, of course. Um. You get older and your body
doesn't heal up as fast and youneed more sleep, and suddenly you can't
get like and suddenly you're just awakeafter eight hours when you need you know,
back then and I could sleep,you know, I could just sleep
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for ten hours, no problem,wake up boom. So it's just it
just worked, and it would justheal up and work, you know,
wonderfully. And uh yeah, likeyou just you can't. You just can't
keep burning the candle at both handsup with the chat. It's gonna catch
up with the sooner or later.Yeah, well, let me talk about
the whole Nickelback experience please, becauseI'm so curious. I got this great
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invitation from Brett Michaels. We weredoing an interview with Brett Michaels, and
somehow he really appreciated me and wehad a good chat, and so he
invited me when they came through town. He what I like to be backstage
and see what it's like. Andso for the first time I got to
see that perspective and I had thiswhole new appreciation for what you guys do.
How many people are involved. It'sit's mind blowing. And I wonder
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if you ever have that desire,you want your fans to know how much
work, how many people it takes. I mean, the lodging of food,
the transportation, all the people thatgoes into putting on a great show
that you guys do. Yeah,it is. It's a lot too.
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I mean we're a traveling city.There are so many trucks and so many
buses, and so many employees,and there's you know, everybody's setting up
the stage, and then there's awhole other crew that sets up the lights,
and a whole other crew sets upthe PA and a whole nother crew.
I mean all that, all thesepeople take care of their own units,
right, and then there's one forthe screen, and then there's one
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for Pyro, and then you've gotcatering, and you've got all this,
like all the stuff that you weretalking about, and it's, um,
it's it is. It's mind blowing. Um. But it's still so much
of a pain in the ass forthe fans to come to shows. And
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so that's why we appreciate them too. It's like gott to find a babysitter
or whatever it is. And thenit's like, well, who's driving are
we gonna drink? Uh? Youknow how we're getting home sale? And
then there's where we're gonna park,and it's just all this stuff and it's
like who's going to get merch andthat, Well, now the show's starting,
and it's just like all this stuffthat goes on with every single thing
that that, you know, arewe going to go for am I taking
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you know, somebody else for dinnerbefore the before the show? And it's
just it's just a big there's athere's a there's a lot of rigmarole that
goes into it, even from theother side of it too, and we
you know, and and I know, you know, I do the same
thing when I go to you know, concerts and stuff, when I go
to hockey games. I know it'sa pain in the ass. It is,
um And so that's why it's reallyimportant that we put on an amazing
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show and that when people show up, they leave just you know, hopefully
mine's blown with that big smile ontheir face, just absolutely entertained, saying
the next time this band comes totown, we are going to come and
see them again. I got thatfrom watching your videos last night, because
I've never had the pleasure of seeingnickelback. But that's very thoughtful of you
to put yourself in the shoes ofyour fans to think about what they're going
through. Because when I watched thisshow, this was the poisoned def Leopard
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Motley Crue show John Jet that camethrough town last year. Ye when I
was it, wasn't it great?I mean, it wasn't it? It
was so fun? I just Iloved it. I absolutely loved it.
When I was watching this, Ican't help but start getting the numbers going
in my head and how much everythingcosts and stuff, and you know how
much news there is right now aboutbands who are charging so much money for
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tickets and the fight with the ticketpeople and everything like that. I'm watching
this whole thing come down, andI'm trying to figure out how anybody,
how they can afford to pay anybodybecause there's so many people involved. Uh
that's that's Uh. We actually,for the first time raised our ticket prices
because we always try and keep themaround. Well, if you can get
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them, you know, before youknow the second party, and the third
party, in the fourth party andeveryone else gets a hold of them first.
We always try to keep them low, like one hundred and thirty bucks
if we could, if we couldkeep it around there. And now,
just like the cost of fuel,just the cost of everything has gone up
so much that we had to.I think we'd bumped tickets up to one
hundred and ninety nine dollars um forfor some of the for some of the
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more premium seats. I mean Iand I've had I just I don't know
how people afford to go to concerts, honestly, because I'll have buddies call
me up and say, hey,I got a couple I got tickets to
your show. And I'm like,why didn't you just ask me, like
I could have I could, youknow, I've got I've got myself a
guest list. I can you know, throw a couple of people on there.
That's not a big deal. Andhe's like, well, I got
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I got two tickets and they weresecond row and it was sixteen hundred bucks.
I'm like, say, sixteen hundreddollars for the second row. He
goes some of them were eight thousand. Yeah, who is charging this Morgan
Wallen is charging that my wife isgonna go see Morgan Wallen for the second
time, and I got to takeout a second mortgage in the house or
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I gotta sell a horse. Oneof the two. I think I'll sell
a horse send her off the seatto see because we both know. We
both know what farrier bills and vetbills are. Like, it's through the
roof It's just means you're on tourstill, That's what it means. That's
exactly it. Chad. Do youremember the first time you're on stage looking
at the audience and they start singingyour music back to you the very first
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time? I mean that, Imean that would have been you know,
early early days. How many peopleare we talking about. It's got to
put you on your heels though.That's got to be the moment where you
like, holy shit, we area rock band now. Yeah, but
I mean you can have you canhave thirty people may still make you feel
that special, because I mean thatwould happen like back in the day,
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you'd have the you know, youdie hard little whatever, you know,
super fans um and they would theywould come to the to the shows,
you know, and we play theselittle bars and stuff and and and they
knew every word, every single word, every syllable, every breath, every
you know, scream, every everything. And uh, you know, so
that was I just thought that wasamazing, even back in the day.
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But to go to places we've neverbeen to, Like so for instance,
like the first time we went toBrazil, um there was one hundred and
twenty thousand people there and we'd neverbeen there before. And we're playing rock
and rio and I'm like, allright, boys, stay close to the
hits because there's no lay these peopleare going to know any of the words
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to our songs. And we startedplaying these teams and they're just screaming every
single word back at you. Andit's it's just unbelievable, you know,
the power that music has and thepower that you know, radio and now
streaming and everything and and and youknow, back in the day video like
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like television stations that would actually playvideos. Remember those, Um, Yeah,
I mean it was just wild andpeople knew who you were and what
you looked like, and it wasjust it's it's quite it's a trip.
It's it's really mind blowing and reallytough to describe, Like when you're in
a foreign country and you're sitting ina restaurant, people just come over to
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you and they want an autograph.Um. I mean, now we've been
doing this for twenty five years.It's it's it's less like, oh my
god, how did you know itwas me? Because it's a little bit
less of that. But you know, back in the day, you know,
we'd go to Japan and people justbe like, there's a dude from
Nickelback. You know, you goto Germany and it would be like our
first time there, like on anarena run and you know, you you
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you you go, you know,you go to a bar after or whatever,
not even like the night before theshow if you're in town early and
people are just like, that's thedude from Nickelback, And it's really weird
here, But it isn't it nice? Isn't it nice? And they know
you and they're a fan of yoursbecause aren't aren't they like ninety nine nine
percent of the time, aren't theyalways nice and just thrilled to see you?
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That's that's the bit and and andit's always fun because the people that
are with you get the biggest kickout of it. Like, if it's
your like if it's your mom,you know, or if it's if it's
a it's a friend or someone andand and if you get like two or
three during during dinner or something likethat, Uh, they look over and
they just sometimes will say, isthat ever get annoying? And I'm like,
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I'm going to be more worried whenthey stop asking me for pictures.
That's the right answer. I lovethat. That is so the right answer.
Okay. So, um along thelines of the audience singing your song
back to you, how about this. Do you remember the first time you're
in the car and you hear aNickelback song being played on the radio?
Tell me that story. This wasthis was really cool. So back in
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my hometown of how An, Alberta, in the middle of Alberta, like
this is a prairie province flat.I always my joke is you can watch
your dog runaway for three days.But it is just so accurate. Um.
And the radio station in Calgary CGninety two had a program on Sundays
and it was called Red White Newand they and they would showcase indie bands
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and um, after six o'clock,as you you've been in radio long time.
You know that they cut the powera lot of times after six o'clock
because you've got less listeners. Sothere, so they cut the power in
a half to save on the powerbill. Right. So when they did
that, um, and we're twoand a half hours away from Calgary,
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we my mom and I had todrive up onto a hill next to a
it wasn't a power point, itwas something it's like the largest largest metal
tower we could get, um,just to get the radio to to come
in better, you know, inthe car. And we sat there and
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it almost brings tears to my eyesbecause this moment was so special and my
mom just she looked at me andI looked at her and I was just
like, I'm on the radio.She's like you're on the radio, and
like I'm actually tearing up right now. Um. And it was so special.
It was so magical because Mom waswith you. Yes, absolutely,
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you know, if it was yourbuddies, it would just be like,
hey, I'm on the radio,this is cool. But it was my
mother who supported you know, myselfand Mike, my brothers the bass player
in the band. Um, anduh just say she was just she just
always had music on all the time, and she would you know, we
had no money, like we wereso broke, and she would still find
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money to take us to concerts.She took me to Metallica, She took
Mike and I to Metallica. Um, like it was she took us to
Poison. You know you poison.Um. Those are my first and second
concerts. Um. You know itwas that so that that was so special
because it was just my mom andI in the car and and it was
just you know, did they sayyour name? Did they say this is
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a brand new band? Were yougoing buy nickel back at the time or
was it okay yea? And whatdid the fellas say? Tell me,
tell me what the experience was.Um? Um. It was the program
director that actually put on the show, and his name was Ben Jeffreies.
If I'm not if I'm not mistaken, and he you know, he's like,
you know, he listed all ournames. He's like, you know,
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we got Mike Krueger, Chad Kruegerand our cousin was drumming at the
time, and Brandon Krueger and Yanthere yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty
much, and uh, you knowthese boys from Hannah Alberta they put together
this uh this seventh song, UHdemo and uh and they played three songs
off of it, and it wasjust wild. Like I just get goosebumps
yes talking about it, because itmade me feel just larger than life,
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like that feeling, that same feelingthat you get when you're getting ready to
walk out on stage and you canand your backstage and you're putting your in
ears in and you can still andthe building starts to shake from people screaming.
Then go back, Nick, goback, Nick, go pat.
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It just and it's just like justrocking the building. And then you walk
out there and then you know thatadulation is overwhelming, like it just it
you. You almost have to sortof block it out because it will overtake
you. It is just so powerfuland so special. It's really really tough
to describe. Oh I saw itlooking backstage over Brett Michael's shoulder. There
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you go at the crowd at petCole Park, and I couldn't believe what
I was seeing. And like that, I was like, Okay, I
get the rockstar fever. Now Itotally get what it's like, because man,
there's nothing like that, and isn'tBrett's such a good frontman too,
Like he's so entertaining, and he'sa really he's he's so charismatic and he's
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he's intelligent, he's funny. Um, I thought he was punking me when
he said come backstage, but hemeant it and he brought me and my
wife and our friends and everything.And he's such a lovely guy. I
really wonderful. He is a veryhe's he's a very very nice man.
I've I've met him a couple oftimes and he's just been just so sweet
to me. And in fact,his wife and Mike, my brother,
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the bass player, his wife,Mike's wife, my sister in law,
Angela. So Brett's wife and Angelaare really really good friends and so they
hang all the time. So you'reobviously I can tell you're a very thoughtful.
You're a sensitive person, and youhave a deep understanding of I don't
know what I want to say,sacrifice that your mother made. But you
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established that you didn't come from awell to do background. So when you're
there with your mom and you hearthis radio station playing your music, there
must be some sort of validation.You look at your mom and you say,
see you believed in us and it'spaid off, and it must have
been it must have been like crossingthe finish line together holding hands absolutely.
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Um. Yeah, I can't say. I couldn't. I couldn't exactly say
there at the time like look,my look, my I made it top
of the world of the world.Um, But there have been those moments
where I've been able to do somepretty special stuff for my my, my
mom and my dad. Um,do you think you're Do you think your
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your mother knows you? Talk aboutthat seventh Song EP that the disc jockey
in Canada was playing for you.Do you think your mother knows what you
did with all the money that theyloaned you for that EP? Because I
don't know if that's an apocryphal story, but I heard there was a four
thousand dollar loan to get that record. Yeah, my my mom and my
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stepdad had actually broken up at thatpoint in time because and that that and
and so that made it really toughfor me to reach out to him to
um, to ask for the loan. But no, my mother, like
I did so many dumb just somany dumb things. I mean, a
dumb thing that you did with halfof the four thousand dollars. I feel
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like, you know, I knowthe story. Yeah, I'm I'm the
fishes on the hook and you're justreeling me into the boat here. Um.
Well, when you had to likeback in the day when you had
to make your own CDs, likeyou could depress your own CDs, and
and like you depressed, like youhad to make like you had to go
to a printing factory and they wouldyou'd give them the designs for how you
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wanted it to look in the tray, like you know, and and and
the crazy thing is the paper costsmore than the actual plastic CD. It's
yeah, it was, you know. And the more colors you use,
like the first one, she's blackand white. Yeah, um yeah,
yeah, it's it's crazy because ifyou know, everyone of every penny that
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you can save when you're making theseCDs, um, you know, that
turns into profit when you're selling them, you know, on consignment at all
the different stores. But my mybrain, idiot, um, I thought
it would be a good idea,So I put up this. So I
took the first two thousand, thefirst seventeen hundred. What did I do?
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I think I think it was likeI still had fourteen hundred dollars left
after we recorded it, but wehadn't pressed any CDs yet because I didn't
think about that part um And soI thought I was gonna try to double
my money. So I went andbought fourteen hundred bucks worth the magic Mushrooms.
I took him back to Ann andI sold him. The thing was,
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I more than doubled my money.The problem was, I just thought
I could do it again, andso I just blew all the money.
I didn't quite put it back intothe gotcha system. Yeah, yeah,
side business that whoops. You know. Speaking of radio, I have pop
quiz for you. What do youthink was the most played song on the
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radio from two thousand, two thousandand nine that first decade in the two
thousand's, what was the most playedsong? Well, at one point I
think it was actually how You RemindMe? But that's exactly what it is.
It's your song. I thought Ithought the record got taken away by
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my ex wife. I thought Complicatedactually took that record. Uh well,
I didn't read that, so Idon't even want to know about that.
Yeah, that's that's that's my girlfrienddoesn't want to hear about that either.
Yeah, but like I'm just goingfor statistic I just wanted to be correct.
Yeah, that's an astounding feat.When I was reading all the things
about you last night, fifty millionrecords. You know, who knows how
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I accurate that number is, butfifty million albums sold worldwide by Nickelback.
And then that one the most playedsong and people call this your signature song.
I've seen you refer to it asthe song that puts you on the
map. How you remind me themost played song on radio for an entire
decade. What an accomplishment that is. Uh, It's it's wild too,
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because when I hear that song comeon the radio or wherever, you could
be in a mall or anywhere,just you could be in an airport,
you just be any public place andyou just hear the thing. Come on.
I know it's me, but itdoesn't feel like it the song is
mine anymore. It definitely feels likethat song just sort of belongs to the
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world just because it just has takenon its own life, like it is
its own entity, really is.I mean, the thing lives um and
so many people have so many memoriesof the song and and you know,
it's just gone on to do whatit's going on to do. Um.
So I wonder, you know,I wonder what when Don Hanley hears the
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start of Hotel California, if hefeels the same way, like it's it's
not really his anymore? Like itthat that that song belongs to us?
Right Like when we hear Stairway,do you think Robert Plant goes, that's
mine? Or do you think hegoes, oh, that's you know,
because he's he's in all the placesthat we are all in. You know,
he hears it just like we do, you know, when when one
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of their songs come come on inthese places you I mean, obviously I
don't think I don't think Robert Plantfinished every slow dance to Stairway, but
I think that song is his,mostly because that's an almost impossible song to
sing unless you're heart. Did youever see Heart sing? Ye? The
Robert Plant? Yeah? Every dayof the whole Ledeppelin thing at the Wash,
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I think I think that Anne Wilson, Oh did such an amazing job.
I'd i'd be I don't even knowif Grenavan Fleet could cover it better
than than Hart did that night.I mean it's I mean, if you
can, if you can, becauseI think I think Robert was welling up.
I think he got emotional during theI mean like, that's that's a
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feat, like if you can,if you can bring emotion to the people
who wrote the song, playing itfor them their own tune. He looked
like, yeah, he really lookedlike he was fighting it. Um,
How You Remind Me is an interestingsong because, um, I got to
think that when you're a rock star, your girlfriend wants you to write a
song about her. So you hada girlfriend at the time, and you
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wrote this song frozen on me?What's that? I'm sorry, David,
I'm still here there, I'm stillhere. I'm frozen. Shit. Yeah
it Mark. We were having sucha killer interview too, back on this.
It's a fucking great interview, dude. I'm so glad to hear that.
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Right when we got cut off,I was saying I was talking about
How You Remind Me, and Iwas thinking about how girlfriends must love it
when they are when they hit thelottery and they're dating a rock star and
the rock star sings or writes asong about them, but the girl that
you were with at the time couldn'thave thought that that was the best song
in the world, because that's apretty dark song. Yes, she I
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think she's still in denial, likeshe doesn't think the songs about her,
which is great, that's perfect.You know. Weren't you in a we
weren't you in a you had likethe we were in an argument? You
you had, you had the premiseof the song. You got an argument,
as I understand it. Yeah,like over the same sort of stuff
that people always arguing, like nothing, something stupid, and we wound up
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in just this dumb argument over whatever. So you go storming off. Yeah,
I go down I stormed downstairs.I went downstairs, and I'm I
was I was pissed off. Yeah, and uh so I ranked up the
PA system down there, and Istart, you know, coming up with
these lyrics. But I just wantedto send missiles, just try to fire
her missiles upstairs. And I starteddoing this whole It's not like you to
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say sorry, I was waiting ona different story, you know, um,
and I just ended up the wholething, the whole you know,
for handing you a heartworth breaking andall this stuff, like I'm just just
giving it to her. And youknow, and and I kind of scratched
out a decent amount of the song. And I go upstairs and I'm just
waiting for her to just be like, oh, you think you're so funny.
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You're like, I was just waitingfor her to just take some shot
at me. And she goes,what are you working on downstairs? I'm
like, I don't know new tuneand she's like, it's really good shot,
miss Chad. It missed it wentover yeah. Just I'm like,
yeah, it's not. But Iwas, that's not That's not what I
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was wanting. I was because Iwanted her to be as as I was
when I stormed off downstairs, andshe wasn't. She was just like,
it's like, damn, that's good. I want to read you some I
want to read you some comments thatfans of Nickelback are writing about you,
because I am. I'm not surewhat your feeling is on it. I
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hope you found a way to takethe negativity and make it work for you.
I don't understand it. It doesn'tmake any sense to me. It's
out there. It's a it's aweird anomaly. But this is what fans
of Nickelback are writing in here.The older I get, the more I
appreciate this song, and they're writingabout how you remind me. This person
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says, I'm seventy years old,I still love Nickelback. Next person says,
I have always loved this song.I don't care what others think or
say. I think for myself.And then this person. I love what
this person says about you and yourband. No matter people Nickelback or not,
their songs bring me a whole lotof good childhood memories and that's the
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definition of great music. I appreciatethis band for being part of my youth.
That's pretty cool. That's amazing.No, that's that's it's it's great.
Um, I love all that.I love that. You know,
we got to pick up our instrumentsand you know, come up with these
songs that have had positive impact onpeople's lives. Um. That's that's uh,
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one of the greatest things that youcan possibly want. Um. You
know, selfishly, I think thefirst thing we all do is it's just
like I say in one of oursongs, is we all just we all
want to be rock stars, right. You know, you want the tour
bus and you want to travel fromcity to city and and you want to
play your music for people and havethat be your career. And it is
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so bizarre for me to actually like, after this long of this being this
is my job and that is that'sweird. That is so because I've done
so many jobs, you know,I've done so many crap straight jobs that
it just makes this that much sweeter, you know, to know, because
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nine to five jobs, a lotof them, most of them, probably
nine of them are awful, youknow, they're they're not great, and
manual labor's really not great, youknow. So when you get to do
especially something you love, um,that's a great thing. It really is.
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Um. Your songs have so muchrelatable feelings though, and I think
this is because early on in yourcareer you decided to go all CSI.
As I understand it, you startedlistening to really successful songs and you started
analyzing them and doing a for studyon them, and he go, why
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does this song work? And isn'tit true that you started realizing that that
it has a relatability that people justeat up. Everybody wants to hear their
story told. Um, because whenyour heart is ripped out of your chest,
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you know, in one of thoseearly relationships. Even though that's happened
to literally billions of people before you, throughout you know, since the dawn
of time, you feel like it'sdifferent because it happened to you. And
so when you know, and andthat's the same for most subject matter that
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people relate to, it means themost to you because it happened to you.
And so when someone sings something andit just like speaks to you,
um, you're gonna make a connectionwith it and you're gonna have you know,
I always call it that, thatinvoluntary emotional response, and it's just
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going to connect. And it's it'sthe same thing that happens to me when
I hear something and I'm like,I love this, you know, for
whatever reason I love it. Itmight not even be the subject matter sometimes
with me, but it's just somethingwe'll just grab, you know, a
hold of me. And I meanthat's the same thing for everybody, you
know, And and it's the samething with you know, movies. Certain
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movies just just affect you for yourwhole life. It's just something just hits
a part of you and there isjust that instant love and you will just
always love that movie, and youalways love that song whatever it is.
Um, you know, anybody who'sgot a favorite dish that their mother cooked
back in the day, Mom spaghetti, Mom spaghetti. I was gonna say
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it, but um, yeah,my mom's spaghetti is the best mine too,
And uh, you know you caneat it anywhere else, but as
if you eat mom spaghetti, itjust does something like it does something to
your soul. It's so hard toexplain. Um, it's so funny,
said spaghetti. Because I didn't.I didn't want to. I didn't want
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to go with the you know,the eminem but it's good. It's good.
It's good, so good. It'ssee there you go. That's you
just did it. You just threwout that that relatability, um topic.
You sing about a lot of reallyrelatable things like relationships and good times and
stuff like that. But there isone song it's pretty rough. I'm talking
about Never Again, which I thinkis Nickelback's greatest song. That's funny because
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it's funny because it's not the messagethat gets me. It's just it's just
the it's like you play your instrumentswith jack hammers and power songs, and
I think that song just rocks thehouse so strongly. But you must have
had people who have lived this life, who have lived this uh trauma of
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domestic abuse, who come up toyou afterwards and tell you what that song
meets to them. Yeah, thatone's a that one's a foof. I
think my dad could have done withoutme writing that song, because, um,
it wasn't that one was an anautobiographic at all. It was just
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but I was. I just grewup with so many people who that was
their song. You know. Thefather was heavily, heavily abusive, um
to to their their their mother andand uh, you know, my dad
got a lot of grief for thatone, you know. And I mean
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it's not even in the set listanymore. Um, but you know,
not just to switch gears a littlebit and to go to like, for
instance, too bad, too bad. That that one's you know, that
one's uh, that one hits homefor for everybody. And I think for
a while, my my my motherand father broke up when I was probably
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two and a half, and Ithink you know each of them, Um,
at some point in time have havewished that I would stop using that
I would stop airing the family's dirtylaundry. Um, you know, for
my own therapy. But that's whatit is though. Absolutely, there's no
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denying that that that is exactly yep, what is going on there? Did
you take never Again out of yourset list because it was too hurtful to
your father? No? No,Um, I just I honestly found that
the song was making so many peopleuncomfortable in the audience that they were having
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a hard time enjoying it. Ican see it. I could literally I
could like pick out like people inthe audience and you could just see,
you can you can see people kindof like move back a little bit,
like literally pull back. And Ijust every time we would play that song,
not every time, but you know, for a while. Yeah,
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after after the you know, thegeness equa of it being a single had
worn off from the masses. Butthen it just turned into this really sort
of awkward thing. It's just likeyou could, uh, I'm like,
let's let's take this thing out ofa set. Let's let's try and keep
it a little more light and bright. Um. You know, too bad
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doesn't go to such a guttural,sort of brutal place. Um. And
so I just I thought yeah,let's just let's maybe just let this one.
Let's let this one rest for awhile. I have I have one
more topic I want to hit withyou before I give you your day back,
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and thank you for being so generouswith your time here today. It's
been a real treat for me becauseI really am such a fan of yours.
I saw this great story one timewith both Robert Downey Jr. And
Pierce Brosnen, and these guys bothstar in their own franchise movies. Pierce
Brosnen was in the James Bond moviesand Robert Downey's doing his Iron Man movies,
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and Pierce Brosnen was talking about one. It wasn't his first one.
It is the second or the thirdJames Bond movie that he had done in
it really hit and his agent calledhim and told him the good news after
the first week, and so heturned to his wife and he said,
Okay, go buy the dream house, which they did. They bought this
big Malibu house. Robert Downey saidthe same thing about Iron Man. He
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was I think he was on sixteenMinutes or something like that, and he
said, this is the house thatIron Man built, And I wonder is
there a barn full of stalls fordrunken friends or a house somewhere that,
how you remind me, built foryou? Yeah? Absolutely, Um,
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you know the one I'm residing in, you know, Um, the house
in Cobo. You know all thetoys, everything with wings and everything with
anchors. Um, are you apilot? No you don't. You don't
buy a limo sea you can sitin the front. Yeah. No.
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And and everything I do is allfrom my friends. I just want my
friends to be with me, youknow, whether we're floating or flying,
Um, to just be having thebest time ever. Um. So everything
has to have you know, Alot of seats, are a lot of
bedrooms. Um. And I spoilmy friends because I just know that every
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single one of them, without question, would take a bullet for me in
a heartbeat, and I do thesame for them. That's a fantastic way
to look of life. I lovethat so much. By the way,
I forgot to say this to you, san Quentin. You were inspired to
put San Quentin together because you werepartying with the warden of San Quentin Prison.
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Is that really a true story?Well, I don't know if I
was partying with him. I methim at a party, but that's a
party. Yeah, that's yeah.I guess I was parting with him.
He probably wants to be in yourgroup of guys who will take a bullet
for you on wings and anchors.Um. Yeah, I wouldn't mind having
wardens, especially any place I'm goingto be arrested, could be bad.
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Yeah, just kind of like nowwe're gonna let him go on this one
and they let him slide. Um. It's gotta be a good feeling having
a rock song back up at thetop of the charts again. San Quentin
is a number one Rocks single fromNickelback. You guys, it's not even
a comeback or anything like that.You guys are just back cruising, rocking,
having a good time. This touris coming out. Everything's going great,
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isn't it. We've yeah, we'vegot the new tour, the new
two is coming out. We gottickets on sale right now, which is
just going so well. And youknow, we've got the new record.
We just built the van from thecover of the album. It's like I
wanted it to be this ridiculous,stupid thing instead of just having a boogie
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van on there. I like,I wanted everything to just be more cartoonish
and more over the top like Ialways do, and I'm like, no,
it's got to have like a twinWe're actual like a tandem axle in
the back. And then we wentto West Coast Customs and actually had them
build us one. And we're gonnaflat deck that thing to every single show
on the road, and it's gonnasit outside the arena just cranking out the
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new, the brand new record,and you're gonna be able to go up
to it. You're gonna be ableto put it on whatever social platform you
want, you know, whether it'sTikTok or Instagram or whatever it is,
take pictures with it. You know, we're gonna there's the European dates are
just getting tied up right now.We're gonna be announcing that very very soon,
UM, and then the rest ofthe uh, the continents are going
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to start falling in place as well. We're being inducted into the Canadian Hall
of Fame in March on the thirteenth, UM, and so we're working on
the performance for that as we speak. Do you get to what do you
get to pick who inducts you intothe Hall of fame. He was busy
and so he's but he's sending overa video. Um, but we're gonna
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have I'll leave it a secret,okay for right now, it's it's not
going to be in and won't bedoing it. You know, when a
when a record is starts to connect, when all of these things start to
happen, you know, all ofthe countries around the world want to talk
to you, they want to getshow on the phone, and and that's
that's one of ours. Because youcan definitely tell when records don't connect because
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it's U cole and then we're going, hey, don't you want to talk
to me? Does anybody want totalk? Yeah? Um, yeah,
So you know, all the TVshows and and all the you know,
the tours and just everything that's goingon, and it's it's it's uh,
it's lovely. It's really really lovely. It's just wonderful to be uh this
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far into our career and to toyou know, to still be in fifth
gear. It's just it's it's it'sjust great. Well, you get better
at every performance. Um, younever know what you're gonna get. When
you're doing an interview and I'm sittingthere please God, let him be good,
Let him be a good interview,let him like what we're talking about.
And you're ten times better than whatI was hoping for. So you're
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awesome. Thanks for being so thankyou, thank you. You know,
I wish every interview was like this. I mean, you've all, like
you've done so much research and you'vegone back in, you know, throughout
the history of the band, andyou've touched on, you know, all
these different landmarks and special things,and you could give lessons on how to
conduct a wonderful interview. So you'revery kind. I'm a little butt her
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that there's no San Diego stop yetfor Nickelback, so I hope you'll reconsider
that. But well hopefully hopefully thatwas just the first leg in America.
Yeah, yeah, okay, verybest to you. I sure enjoyed it,
and thank you so much for beingso generous at your time here me
as well. Thank you so much. Okay, thanks brother, that's to
you. Awesome. You've been listeningto the Dave Riggards podcast, Stay tuned
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No, no, I heard MediaPresents the Dave Riggarts Podcast. I got
you. I got you, Sonnyand share would be proud. You say,
did you say I got you inthe middle of a recording session?
Yeah? This is this is mystudio here at the UM at a house.
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Um so wow, it's in myold hay barn. But this is
where we've been recording for the lastnineteen nineteen years. What's a hay barn?
You have a barn? The girl? Hey, you have horses something?
What's going on there? No?I bought this a state that had
the horses. And then Um,I shanghaide the barn. I see,
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and now there's yours now yeah,and then the uh, the girl I
was engaged to three lifetimes ago.Um was distraught. She's like you like
she actually had horses at the time. There's a skishalet of a barn out
there that I've just converted into acomplete party house for all my puce and
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I turned every single one of thestalls into king's size bedrooms. So every
time they get drunk, they juststumbled twenty feet and they've got they've got
a bed to crash. And soyou have no idea. How jealous I
am of you right now because mywife has four horses, and I know
what it's like being with horse girls, and I would like very much to
convert my barn into a drunken flophousefor all my yes, or a recording
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studio. And I can't even singlike a rock star like you do.
And I wanted to tell you I'mgonna fanboy out for a little bit here.
I love nickel Back. Okay.I was watching some of your concerts
last night, and I was sittingthere watching these shows, and it occurred
to me, if I could magicallytransform myself into a rock star, I
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would be First of all, Iwould erase you guys, and I would
just totally copy you, because whatyou guys do is exactly what I would
want my rock hand to be.Well, that's funny, that's what I
did. Well, good eye,Yeah, I think it's a good plan.
I was watching your Your Red RocksColorado show. You guys are so
tight, it's so good, andthen I switched over to the Sturgis Show
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and one of the questions I wasgoing to ask you is do you have
a favorite place to play? Andif it isn't Sturgis. I don't know
why. That isn't the reason forthe reaction you get from the women there.
Yeah, that was a that wasa fun one. Um. Red
Rocks is pretty that's what. Thatone is pretty special just because it's a
natural amphitheater. For anyone who's listeningor watching and doesn't know what Red Rocks
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is, Red Rocks is probably it'slike forty five minutes outside of Denver and
it's this. It's a it's anatural amphitheater that's just carved by millions of
years of erosion, I'm assuming.Um, and you're inside these these clips,
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these red clips, and it's juststraight out of like Wiley Coyote,
you know, like like back inthe day that that's exactly what it looks
like. And then they just putseats in there and like the dressing rooms
are in caves. It's crazy.It's it's just really cool that that one's
a special one. But that Sturgisgig, Yeah, I mean it was.
That was a lot of fun.We had some guy hanging out like
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that. This is long before drones. I mean, we'd had a guy
hanging off the side of a helicopterin the middle of night, just circling
the gig, just getting all thoseall those you know, aerial shots,
and I'm just like everybody, seethat nutbar there, flip that guy off.
I got to imagine some shows aremore fun to do than others.
And the ones that I was watchingyou do last night, there's no way
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those weren't the fun shows, becausethey were. And then I watched you
do um it was a TV showand you guys were doing a zz Top
tribute. You're all dressed up inyour black suits, you got sunglasses on,
you're singing sharp dressed man, andyou did a killer version of it.
I watched you march out the runway. You march straight out in this
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long runway, one of those longrunways like a Victoria Secret show, and
you just jam and when crazy andyou look like you're not even trying,
like you were born to do this. And this is one of the great
things I love about Nickelback is thatyou guys, this is probably the same
compliment you hear all the time,but you guys sound like the record.
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You can tell there's no studio tricksgoing on, because you guys come out
and you play like you sound likewe hear when we download the music or
play it on the radio. Thankyou. Yeah, we put a lot
of effort into that full disclosure.We have taken a few of the songs
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and gone down a half step inkey just because these days, like Animals
is so hard to sing Animals isn'tthat difficult to sing? Animals is just
it's a marathon and a sprint atthe same time, because there's just there's
just nowhere to breathe. There justisn't any place to breathe. And so
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it's just like I'm driving black onblack, just got my lesses back,
I got this feeling in my veins. Train is coming in off the track.
I'll ask the blood if the devilneeds a ride it because the angel
alam my right, and hang hanout with me. And it just goes
on and on and yeah, andthen it goes higher and higher and higher,
and it's just it's so you know, we've we've we've done a couple
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of things to uh to uh.We're gonna do more things this tour,
to extend things instead of just thesongs just being like exactly how you hear
them on the radio. It's likethree and a half minutes and three and
a half minutes and like whatever theyare, we're gonna start extending some pieces
so I can actually catch my breath. Um, but wow, it's the
one thing I can tell you.It's good for Cardio. Yeah, you
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guys look good. Yeah. Infact, I want to I want to
tell you the look is good rightnow. I like this Captain America thing
you've been going on with the pastfew years. You guys, you guys,
do you look real good? Imean, you look like all business.
I know Metallica did that a longtime ago. I think it's a
good look for you guys. Um. Back to the difficulty of singing.
You know is a fan. Itnever occurred to me until I started talking
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to lead singers of rock bands.It never occurred to me that some songs
are really, really difficult for youguys. It's really challenged because a great
performer, great performers like you makeit look like rolling out of bed.
No, there's there's panic burned tothe ground, is you know? Damn
or impossible. It's just just screamingat the end, It's just just screaming
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and just like screaming and key,that's it. You do scream a lot,
a lot of screaming. Now,do you think a little while ago,
I don't remember what year was,but a little while ago you had
a you developed assist on one ofyour vocal cords. Yeah, and is
that something that just happens or isthat a wear and teary damage thing?
Um, So we think it wastwo. It was twenty thirteen, I
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believe is when the surgery was.And we think that because I had another
surgery, um a couple of yearsprior to that. And when they intibate
you, they stick that that tubedown into your lungs and then they you
know, force oxygen into your lungsso you don't die while you're unconscious on
the operating table. And they're prettysure that when they were shoving this tube
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in there, they nicked the vocalcord and created a weak point. And
then um, that's when the thenode developed. And then the node just
got bigger and bigger, and Iwas just I was just abusing the hell
of my out of my throat andthat node then finally turned into assist and
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it was just like you just couldn'tsing. I couldn't sing through it anymore.
It was just one of these thingswhere surgery was the only option.
I don't think I should have beenscreaming Pantera at the top of my lungs
at the last, like at theend of the former leg in Japan when
we were in I was in Ithink I was in Tokyo. I might
have been in Osaka. I'm notsure where it was. But I ended
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off that that run and yeah,and then just went out partying and screaming
at this rock bar, you know, all night long, and not like
taking care of the vocal cords andall because because up until that point I
just thought I was super human.When it came to screaming, I just
like I could party all night long. I could party till eight o'clock in
the morning and then get up andsing a show no problem, and just
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do that. And I've just beendoing that for twenty five years. And
I just I was like, nothingis, nothing's ever gonna take me down.
Well, yes, you know,one of us and it's not me,
but one of us has a fiftiethbirthday coming up, you know,
not tomorrow but soon, And doyou think that's part of it? Well,
I just turned forty eight, soI know I know I'm keeping I'm
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keeping the Big five oh at bayfor another another two cycles around the sun.
Um yeah, of course. Um. You get older and your body
doesn't heal up as fast and youneed more sleep, and suddenly you can't
get like and suddenly you're just awakeafter eight hours when you need you know,
back then and I could sleep,you know, I could just sleep
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for ten hours, no problem,wake up boom. So it's just it
just worked, and it would justheal up and work, you know,
wonderfully. And uh yeah, likeyou just you can't. You just can't
keep burning the candle at both handsup with the chat. It's gonna catch
up with the sooner or later.Yeah, well, let me talk about
the whole Nickelback experience please, becauseI'm so curious. I got this great
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invitation from Brett Michaels. We weredoing an interview with Brett Michaels, and
somehow he really appreciated me and wehad a good chat, and so he
invited me when they came through town. He what I like to be backstage
and see what it's like. Andso for the first time I got to
see that perspective and I had thiswhole new appreciation for what you guys do.
How many people are involved. It'sit's mind blowing. And I wonder
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if you ever have that desire,you want your fans to know how much
work, how many people it takes. I mean, the lodging of food,
the transportation, all the people thatgoes into putting on a great show
that you guys do. Yeah,it is. It's a lot too.
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I mean we're a traveling city.There are so many trucks and so many
buses, and so many employees,and there's you know, everybody's setting up
the stage, and then there's awhole other crew that sets up the lights,
and a whole other crew sets upthe PA and a whole nother crew.
I mean all that, all thesepeople take care of their own units,
right, and then there's one forthe screen, and then there's one
(10:54):
for Pyro, and then you've gotcatering, and you've got all this,
like all the stuff that you weretalking about, and it's, um,
it's it is. It's mind blowing. Um. But it's still so much
of a pain in the ass forthe fans to come to shows. And
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so that's why we appreciate them too. It's like gott to find a babysitter
or whatever it is. And thenit's like, well, who's driving are
we gonna drink? Uh? Youknow how we're getting home sale? And
then there's where we're gonna park,and it's just all this stuff and it's
like who's going to get merch andthat, Well, now the show's starting,
and it's just like all this stuffthat goes on with every single thing
that that, you know, arewe going to go for am I taking
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you know, somebody else for dinnerbefore the before the show? And it's
just it's just a big there's athere's a there's a lot of rigmarole that
goes into it, even from theother side of it too, and we
you know, and and I know, you know, I do the same
thing when I go to you know, concerts and stuff, when I go
to hockey games. I know it'sa pain in the ass. It is,
um And so that's why it's reallyimportant that we put on an amazing
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show and that when people show up, they leave just you know, hopefully
mine's blown with that big smile ontheir face, just absolutely entertained, saying
the next time this band comes totown, we are going to come and
see them again. I got thatfrom watching your videos last night, because
I've never had the pleasure of seeingnickelback. But that's very thoughtful of you
to put yourself in the shoes ofyour fans to think about what they're going
through. Because when I watched thisshow, this was the poisoned def Leopard
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Motley Crue show John Jet that camethrough town last year. Ye when I
was it, wasn't it great?I mean, it wasn't it? It
was so fun? I just Iloved it. I absolutely loved it.
When I was watching this, Ican't help but start getting the numbers going
in my head and how much everythingcosts and stuff, and you know how
much news there is right now aboutbands who are charging so much money for
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tickets and the fight with the ticketpeople and everything like that. I'm watching
this whole thing come down, andI'm trying to figure out how anybody,
how they can afford to pay anybodybecause there's so many people involved. Uh
that's that's Uh. We actually,for the first time raised our ticket prices
because we always try and keep themaround. Well, if you can get
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them, you know, before youknow the second party, and the third
party, in the fourth party andeveryone else gets a hold of them first.
We always try to keep them low, like one hundred and thirty bucks
if we could, if we couldkeep it around there. And now,
just like the cost of fuel,just the cost of everything has gone up
so much that we had to.I think we'd bumped tickets up to one
hundred and ninety nine dollars um forfor some of the for some of the
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more premium seats. I mean Iand I've had I just I don't know
how people afford to go to concerts, honestly, because I'll have buddies call
me up and say, hey,I got a couple I got tickets to
your show. And I'm like,why didn't you just ask me, like
I could have I could, youknow, I've got I've got myself a
guest list. I can you know, throw a couple of people on there.
That's not a big deal. Andhe's like, well, I got
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I got two tickets and they weresecond row and it was sixteen hundred bucks.
I'm like, say, sixteen hundreddollars for the second row. He
goes some of them were eight thousand. Yeah, who is charging this Morgan
Wallen is charging that my wife isgonna go see Morgan Wallen for the second
time, and I got to takeout a second mortgage in the house or
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I gotta sell a horse. Oneof the two. I think I'll sell
a horse send her off the seatto see because we both know. We
both know what farrier bills and vetbills are. Like, it's through the
roof It's just means you're on tourstill, That's what it means. That's
exactly it. Chad. Do youremember the first time you're on stage looking
at the audience and they start singingyour music back to you the very first
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time? I mean that, Imean that would have been you know,
early early days. How many peopleare we talking about. It's got to
put you on your heels though.That's got to be the moment where you
like, holy shit, we area rock band now. Yeah, but
I mean you can have you canhave thirty people may still make you feel
that special, because I mean thatwould happen like back in the day,
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you'd have the you know, youdie hard little whatever, you know,
super fans um and they would theywould come to the to the shows,
you know, and we play theselittle bars and stuff and and and they
knew every word, every single word, every syllable, every breath, every
you know, scream, every everything. And uh, you know, so
that was I just thought that wasamazing, even back in the day.
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But to go to places we've neverbeen to, Like so for instance,
like the first time we went toBrazil, um there was one hundred and
twenty thousand people there and we'd neverbeen there before. And we're playing rock
and rio and I'm like, allright, boys, stay close to the
hits because there's no lay these peopleare going to know any of the words
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to our songs. And we startedplaying these teams and they're just screaming every
single word back at you. Andit's it's just unbelievable, you know,
the power that music has and thepower that you know, radio and now
streaming and everything and and and youknow, back in the day video like
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like television stations that would actually playvideos. Remember those, Um, Yeah,
I mean it was just wild andpeople knew who you were and what
you looked like, and it wasjust it's it's quite it's a trip.
It's it's really mind blowing and reallytough to describe, Like when you're in
a foreign country and you're sitting ina restaurant, people just come over to
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you and they want an autograph.Um. I mean, now we've been
doing this for twenty five years.It's it's it's less like, oh my
god, how did you know itwas me? Because it's a little bit
less of that. But you know, back in the day, you know,
we'd go to Japan and people justbe like, there's a dude from
Nickelback. You know, you goto Germany and it would be like our
first time there, like on anarena run and you know, you you
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you you go, you know,you go to a bar after or whatever,
not even like the night before theshow if you're in town early and
people are just like, that's thedude from Nickelback, And it's really weird
here, But it isn't it nice? Isn't it nice? And they know
you and they're a fan of yoursbecause aren't aren't they like ninety nine nine
percent of the time, aren't theyalways nice and just thrilled to see you?
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That's that's the bit and and andit's always fun because the people that
are with you get the biggest kickout of it. Like, if it's
your like if it's your mom,you know, or if it's if it's
a it's a friend or someone andand and if you get like two or
three during during dinner or something likethat, Uh, they look over and
they just sometimes will say, isthat ever get annoying? And I'm like,
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I'm going to be more worried whenthey stop asking me for pictures.
That's the right answer. I lovethat. That is so the right answer.
Okay. So, um along thelines of the audience singing your song
back to you, how about this. Do you remember the first time you're
in the car and you hear aNickelback song being played on the radio?
Tell me that story. This wasthis was really cool. So back in
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my hometown of how An, Alberta, in the middle of Alberta, like
this is a prairie province flat.I always my joke is you can watch
your dog runaway for three days.But it is just so accurate. Um.
And the radio station in Calgary CGninety two had a program on Sundays
and it was called Red White Newand they and they would showcase indie bands
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and um, after six o'clock,as you you've been in radio long time.
You know that they cut the powera lot of times after six o'clock
because you've got less listeners. Sothere, so they cut the power in
a half to save on the powerbill. Right. So when they did
that, um, and we're twoand a half hours away from Calgary,
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we my mom and I had todrive up onto a hill next to a
it wasn't a power point, itwas something it's like the largest largest metal
tower we could get, um,just to get the radio to to come
in better, you know, inthe car. And we sat there and
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it almost brings tears to my eyesbecause this moment was so special and my
mom just she looked at me andI looked at her and I was just
like, I'm on the radio.She's like you're on the radio, and
like I'm actually tearing up right now. Um. And it was so special.
It was so magical because Mom waswith you. Yes, absolutely,
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you know, if it was yourbuddies, it would just be like,
hey, I'm on the radio,this is cool. But it was my
mother who supported you know, myselfand Mike, my brothers the bass player
in the band. Um, anduh just say she was just she just
always had music on all the time, and she would you know, we
had no money, like we wereso broke, and she would still find
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money to take us to concerts.She took me to Metallica, She took
Mike and I to Metallica. Um, like it was she took us to
Poison. You know you poison.Um. Those are my first and second
concerts. Um. You know itwas that so that that was so special
because it was just my mom andI in the car and and it was
just you know, did they sayyour name? Did they say this is
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a brand new band? Were yougoing buy nickel back at the time or
was it okay yea? And whatdid the fellas say? Tell me,
tell me what the experience was.Um? Um. It was the program
director that actually put on the show, and his name was Ben Jeffreies.
If I'm not if I'm not mistaken, and he you know, he's like,
you know, he listed all ournames. He's like, you know,
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we got Mike Krueger, Chad Kruegerand our cousin was drumming at the
time, and Brandon Krueger and Yanthere yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty
much, and uh, you knowthese boys from Hannah Alberta they put together
this uh this seventh song, UHdemo and uh and they played three songs
off of it, and it wasjust wild. Like I just get goosebumps
yes talking about it, because itmade me feel just larger than life,
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like that feeling, that same feelingthat you get when you're getting ready to
walk out on stage and you canand your backstage and you're putting your in
ears in and you can still andthe building starts to shake from people screaming.
Then go back, Nick, goback, Nick, go pat.
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It just and it's just like justrocking the building. And then you walk
out there and then you know thatadulation is overwhelming, like it just it
you. You almost have to sortof block it out because it will overtake
you. It is just so powerfuland so special. It's really really tough
to describe. Oh I saw itlooking backstage over Brett Michael's shoulder. There
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you go at the crowd at petCole Park, and I couldn't believe what
I was seeing. And like that, I was like, Okay, I
get the rockstar fever. Now Itotally get what it's like, because man,
there's nothing like that, and isn'tBrett's such a good frontman too,
Like he's so entertaining, and he'sa really he's he's so charismatic and he's
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he's intelligent, he's funny. Um, I thought he was punking me when
he said come backstage, but hemeant it and he brought me and my
wife and our friends and everything.And he's such a lovely guy. I
really wonderful. He is a veryhe's he's a very very nice man.
I've I've met him a couple oftimes and he's just been just so sweet
to me. And in fact,his wife and Mike, my brother,
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the bass player, his wife,Mike's wife, my sister in law,
Angela. So Brett's wife and Angelaare really really good friends and so they
hang all the time. So you'reobviously I can tell you're a very thoughtful.
You're a sensitive person, and youhave a deep understanding of I don't
know what I want to say,sacrifice that your mother made. But you
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established that you didn't come from awell to do background. So when you're
there with your mom and you hearthis radio station playing your music, there
must be some sort of validation.You look at your mom and you say,
see you believed in us and it'spaid off, and it must have
been it must have been like crossingthe finish line together holding hands absolutely.
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Um. Yeah, I can't say. I couldn't. I couldn't exactly say
there at the time like look,my look, my I made it top
of the world of the world.Um, But there have been those moments
where I've been able to do somepretty special stuff for my my, my
mom and my dad. Um,do you think you're Do you think your
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your mother knows you? Talk aboutthat seventh Song EP that the disc jockey
in Canada was playing for you.Do you think your mother knows what you
did with all the money that theyloaned you for that EP? Because I
don't know if that's an apocryphal story, but I heard there was a four
thousand dollar loan to get that record. Yeah, my my mom and my
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stepdad had actually broken up at thatpoint in time because and that that and
and so that made it really toughfor me to reach out to him to
um, to ask for the loan. But no, my mother, like
I did so many dumb just somany dumb things. I mean, a
dumb thing that you did with halfof the four thousand dollars. I feel
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like, you know, I knowthe story. Yeah, I'm I'm the
fishes on the hook and you're justreeling me into the boat here. Um.
Well, when you had to likeback in the day when you had
to make your own CDs, likeyou could depress your own CDs, and
and like you depressed, like youhad to make like you had to go
to a printing factory and they wouldyou'd give them the designs for how you
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wanted it to look in the tray, like you know, and and and
the crazy thing is the paper costsmore than the actual plastic CD. It's
yeah, it was, you know. And the more colors you use,
like the first one, she's blackand white. Yeah, um yeah,
yeah, it's it's crazy because ifyou know, everyone of every penny that
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you can save when you're making theseCDs, um, you know, that
turns into profit when you're selling them, you know, on consignment at all
the different stores. But my mybrain, idiot, um, I thought
it would be a good idea,So I put up this. So I
took the first two thousand, thefirst seventeen hundred. What did I do?
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I think I think it was likeI still had fourteen hundred dollars left
after we recorded it, but wehadn't pressed any CDs yet because I didn't
think about that part um And soI thought I was gonna try to double
my money. So I went andbought fourteen hundred bucks worth the magic Mushrooms.
I took him back to Ann andI sold him. The thing was,
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I more than doubled my money.The problem was, I just thought
I could do it again, andso I just blew all the money.
I didn't quite put it back intothe gotcha system. Yeah, yeah,
side business that whoops. You know. Speaking of radio, I have pop
quiz for you. What do youthink was the most played song on the
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radio from two thousand, two thousandand nine that first decade in the two
thousand's, what was the most playedsong? Well, at one point I
think it was actually how You RemindMe? But that's exactly what it is.
It's your song. I thought Ithought the record got taken away by
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my ex wife. I thought Complicatedactually took that record. Uh well,
I didn't read that, so Idon't even want to know about that.
Yeah, that's that's that's my girlfrienddoesn't want to hear about that either.
Yeah, but like I'm just goingfor statistic I just wanted to be correct.
Yeah, that's an astounding feat.When I was reading all the things
about you last night, fifty millionrecords. You know, who knows how
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I accurate that number is, butfifty million albums sold worldwide by Nickelback.
And then that one the most playedsong and people call this your signature song.
I've seen you refer to it asthe song that puts you on the
map. How you remind me themost played song on radio for an entire
decade. What an accomplishment that is. Uh, It's it's wild too,
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because when I hear that song comeon the radio or wherever, you could
be in a mall or anywhere,just you could be in an airport,
you just be any public place andyou just hear the thing. Come on.
I know it's me, but itdoesn't feel like it the song is
mine anymore. It definitely feels likethat song just sort of belongs to the
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world just because it just has takenon its own life, like it is
its own entity, really is.I mean, the thing lives um and
so many people have so many memoriesof the song and and you know,
it's just gone on to do whatit's going on to do. Um.
So I wonder, you know,I wonder what when Don Hanley hears the
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start of Hotel California, if hefeels the same way, like it's it's
not really his anymore? Like itthat that that song belongs to us?
Right Like when we hear Stairway,do you think Robert Plant goes, that's
mine? Or do you think hegoes, oh, that's you know,
because he's he's in all the placesthat we are all in. You know,
he hears it just like we do, you know, when when one
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of their songs come come on inthese places you I mean, obviously I
don't think I don't think Robert Plantfinished every slow dance to Stairway, but
I think that song is his,mostly because that's an almost impossible song to
sing unless you're heart. Did youever see Heart sing? Ye? The
Robert Plant? Yeah? Every dayof the whole Ledeppelin thing at the Wash,
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I think I think that Anne Wilson, Oh did such an amazing job.
I'd i'd be I don't even knowif Grenavan Fleet could cover it better
than than Hart did that night.I mean it's I mean, if you
can, if you can, becauseI think I think Robert was welling up.
I think he got emotional during theI mean like, that's that's a
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feat, like if you can,if you can bring emotion to the people
who wrote the song, playing itfor them their own tune. He looked
like, yeah, he really lookedlike he was fighting it. Um,
How You Remind Me is an interestingsong because, um, I got to
think that when you're a rock star, your girlfriend wants you to write a
song about her. So you hada girlfriend at the time, and you
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wrote this song frozen on me?What's that? I'm sorry, David,
I'm still here there, I'm stillhere. I'm frozen. Shit. Yeah
it Mark. We were having sucha killer interview too, back on this.
It's a fucking great interview, dude. I'm so glad to hear that.
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Right when we got cut off,I was saying I was talking about
How You Remind Me, and Iwas thinking about how girlfriends must love it
when they are when they hit thelottery and they're dating a rock star and
the rock star sings or writes asong about them, but the girl that
you were with at the time couldn'thave thought that that was the best song
in the world, because that's apretty dark song. Yes, she I
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think she's still in denial, likeshe doesn't think the songs about her,
which is great, that's perfect.You know. Weren't you in a we
weren't you in a you had likethe we were in an argument? You
you had, you had the premiseof the song. You got an argument,
as I understand it. Yeah,like over the same sort of stuff
that people always arguing, like nothing, something stupid, and we wound up
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in just this dumb argument over whatever. So you go storming off. Yeah,
I go down I stormed downstairs.I went downstairs, and I'm I
was I was pissed off. Yeah, and uh so I ranked up the
PA system down there, and Istart, you know, coming up with
these lyrics. But I just wantedto send missiles, just try to fire
her missiles upstairs. And I starteddoing this whole It's not like you to
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say sorry, I was waiting ona different story, you know, um,
and I just ended up the wholething, the whole you know,
for handing you a heartworth breaking andall this stuff, like I'm just just
giving it to her. And youknow, and and I kind of scratched
out a decent amount of the song. And I go upstairs and I'm just
waiting for her to just be like, oh, you think you're so funny.
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You're like, I was just waitingfor her to just take some shot
at me. And she goes,what are you working on downstairs? I'm
like, I don't know new tuneand she's like, it's really good shot,
miss Chad. It missed it wentover yeah. Just I'm like,
yeah, it's not. But Iwas, that's not That's not what I
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was wanting. I was because Iwanted her to be as as I was
when I stormed off downstairs, andshe wasn't. She was just like,
it's like, damn, that's good. I want to read you some I
want to read you some comments thatfans of Nickelback are writing about you,
because I am. I'm not surewhat your feeling is on it. I
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hope you found a way to takethe negativity and make it work for you.
I don't understand it. It doesn'tmake any sense to me. It's
out there. It's a it's aweird anomaly. But this is what fans
of Nickelback are writing in here.The older I get, the more I
appreciate this song, and they're writingabout how you remind me. This person
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says, I'm seventy years old,I still love Nickelback. Next person says,
I have always loved this song.I don't care what others think or
say. I think for myself.And then this person. I love what
this person says about you and yourband. No matter people Nickelback or not,
their songs bring me a whole lotof good childhood memories and that's the
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definition of great music. I appreciatethis band for being part of my youth.
That's pretty cool. That's amazing.No, that's that's it's it's great.
Um, I love all that.I love that. You know,
we got to pick up our instrumentsand you know, come up with these
songs that have had positive impact onpeople's lives. Um. That's that's uh,
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one of the greatest things that youcan possibly want. Um. You
know, selfishly, I think thefirst thing we all do is it's just
like I say in one of oursongs, is we all just we all
want to be rock stars, right. You know, you want the tour
bus and you want to travel fromcity to city and and you want to
play your music for people and havethat be your career. And it is
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so bizarre for me to actually like, after this long of this being this
is my job and that is that'sweird. That is so because I've done
so many jobs, you know,I've done so many crap straight jobs that
it just makes this that much sweeter, you know, to know, because
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nine to five jobs, a lotof them, most of them, probably
nine of them are awful, youknow, they're they're not great, and
manual labor's really not great, youknow. So when you get to do
especially something you love, um,that's a great thing. It really is.
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Um. Your songs have so muchrelatable feelings though, and I think
this is because early on in yourcareer you decided to go all CSI.
As I understand it, you startedlistening to really successful songs and you started
analyzing them and doing a for studyon them, and he go, why
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does this song work? And isn'tit true that you started realizing that that
it has a relatability that people justeat up. Everybody wants to hear their
story told. Um, because whenyour heart is ripped out of your chest,
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you know, in one of thoseearly relationships. Even though that's happened
to literally billions of people before you, throughout you know, since the dawn
of time, you feel like it'sdifferent because it happened to you. And
so when you know, and andthat's the same for most subject matter that
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people relate to, it means themost to you because it happened to you.
And so when someone sings something andit just like speaks to you,
um, you're gonna make a connectionwith it and you're gonna have you know,
I always call it that, thatinvoluntary emotional response, and it's just
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going to connect. And it's it'sthe same thing that happens to me when
I hear something and I'm like,I love this, you know, for
whatever reason I love it. Itmight not even be the subject matter sometimes
with me, but it's just somethingwe'll just grab, you know, a
hold of me. And I meanthat's the same thing for everybody, you
know, And and it's the samething with you know, movies. Certain
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movies just just affect you for yourwhole life. It's just something just hits
a part of you and there isjust that instant love and you will just
always love that movie, and youalways love that song whatever it is.
Um, you know, anybody who'sgot a favorite dish that their mother cooked
back in the day, Mom spaghetti, Mom spaghetti. I was gonna say
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it, but um, yeah,my mom's spaghetti is the best mine too,
And uh, you know you caneat it anywhere else, but as
if you eat mom spaghetti, itjust does something like it does something to
your soul. It's so hard toexplain. Um, it's so funny,
said spaghetti. Because I didn't.I didn't want to. I didn't want
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to go with the you know,the eminem but it's good. It's good.
It's good, so good. It'ssee there you go. That's you
just did it. You just threwout that that relatability, um topic.
You sing about a lot of reallyrelatable things like relationships and good times and
stuff like that. But there isone song it's pretty rough. I'm talking
about Never Again, which I thinkis Nickelback's greatest song. That's funny because
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it's funny because it's not the messagethat gets me. It's just it's just
the it's like you play your instrumentswith jack hammers and power songs, and
I think that song just rocks thehouse so strongly. But you must have
had people who have lived this life, who have lived this uh trauma of
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domestic abuse, who come up toyou afterwards and tell you what that song
meets to them. Yeah, thatone's a that one's a foof. I
think my dad could have done withoutme writing that song, because, um,
it wasn't that one was an anautobiographic at all. It was just
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but I was. I just grewup with so many people who that was
their song. You know. Thefather was heavily, heavily abusive, um
to to their their their mother andand uh, you know, my dad
got a lot of grief for thatone, you know. And I mean
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it's not even in the set listanymore. Um, but you know,
not just to switch gears a littlebit and to go to like, for
instance, too bad, too bad. That that one's you know, that
one's uh, that one hits homefor for everybody. And I think for
a while, my my my motherand father broke up when I was probably
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two and a half, and Ithink you know each of them, Um,
at some point in time have havewished that I would stop using that
I would stop airing the family's dirtylaundry. Um, you know, for
my own therapy. But that's whatit is though. Absolutely, there's no
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denying that that that is exactly yep, what is going on there? Did
you take never Again out of yourset list because it was too hurtful to
your father? No? No,Um, I just I honestly found that
the song was making so many peopleuncomfortable in the audience that they were having
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a hard time enjoying it. Ican see it. I could literally I
could like pick out like people inthe audience and you could just see,
you can you can see people kindof like move back a little bit,
like literally pull back. And Ijust every time we would play that song,
not every time, but you know, for a while. Yeah,
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after after the you know, thegeness equa of it being a single had
worn off from the masses. Butthen it just turned into this really sort
of awkward thing. It's just likeyou could, uh, I'm like,
let's let's take this thing out ofa set. Let's let's try and keep
it a little more light and bright. Um. You know, too bad
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doesn't go to such a guttural,sort of brutal place. Um. And
so I just I thought yeah,let's just let's maybe just let this one.
Let's let this one rest for awhile. I have I have one
more topic I want to hit withyou before I give you your day back,
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and thank you for being so generouswith your time here today. It's
been a real treat for me becauseI really am such a fan of yours.
I saw this great story one timewith both Robert Downey Jr. And
Pierce Brosnen, and these guys bothstar in their own franchise movies. Pierce
Brosnen was in the James Bond moviesand Robert Downey's doing his Iron Man movies,
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and Pierce Brosnen was talking about one. It wasn't his first one.
It is the second or the thirdJames Bond movie that he had done in
it really hit and his agent calledhim and told him the good news after
the first week, and so heturned to his wife and he said,
Okay, go buy the dream house, which they did. They bought this
big Malibu house. Robert Downey saidthe same thing about Iron Man. He
(41:45):
was I think he was on sixteenMinutes or something like that, and he
said, this is the house thatIron Man built, And I wonder is
there a barn full of stalls fordrunken friends or a house somewhere that,
how you remind me, built foryou? Yeah? Absolutely, Um,
(42:07):
you know the one I'm residing in, you know, Um, the house
in Cobo. You know all thetoys, everything with wings and everything with
anchors. Um, are you apilot? No you don't. You don't
buy a limo sea you can sitin the front. Yeah. No.
(42:27):
And and everything I do is allfrom my friends. I just want my
friends to be with me, youknow, whether we're floating or flying,
Um, to just be having thebest time ever. Um. So everything
has to have you know, Alot of seats, are a lot of
bedrooms. Um. And I spoilmy friends because I just know that every
(42:50):
single one of them, without question, would take a bullet for me in
a heartbeat, and I do thesame for them. That's a fantastic way
to look of life. I lovethat so much. By the way,
I forgot to say this to you, san Quentin. You were inspired to
put San Quentin together because you werepartying with the warden of San Quentin Prison.
(43:12):
Is that really a true story?Well, I don't know if I
was partying with him. I methim at a party, but that's a
party. Yeah, that's yeah.I guess I was parting with him.
He probably wants to be in yourgroup of guys who will take a bullet
for you on wings and anchors.Um. Yeah, I wouldn't mind having
wardens, especially any place I'm goingto be arrested, could be bad.
(43:36):
Yeah, just kind of like nowwe're gonna let him go on this one
and they let him slide. Um. It's gotta be a good feeling having
a rock song back up at thetop of the charts again. San Quentin
is a number one Rocks single fromNickelback. You guys, it's not even
a comeback or anything like that.You guys are just back cruising, rocking,
having a good time. This touris coming out. Everything's going great,
(43:57):
isn't it. We've yeah, we'vegot the new tour, the new
two is coming out. We gottickets on sale right now, which is
just going so well. And youknow, we've got the new record.
We just built the van from thecover of the album. It's like I
wanted it to be this ridiculous,stupid thing instead of just having a boogie
(44:19):
van on there. I like,I wanted everything to just be more cartoonish
and more over the top like Ialways do, and I'm like, no,
it's got to have like a twinWe're actual like a tandem axle in
the back. And then we wentto West Coast Customs and actually had them
build us one. And we're gonnaflat deck that thing to every single show
on the road, and it's gonnasit outside the arena just cranking out the
(44:43):
new, the brand new record,and you're gonna be able to go up
to it. You're gonna be ableto put it on whatever social platform you
want, you know, whether it'sTikTok or Instagram or whatever it is,
take pictures with it. You know, we're gonna there's the European dates are
just getting tied up right now.We're gonna be announcing that very very soon,
UM, and then the rest ofthe uh, the continents are going
(45:07):
to start falling in place as well. We're being inducted into the Canadian Hall
of Fame in March on the thirteenth, UM, and so we're working on
the performance for that as we speak. Do you get to what do you
get to pick who inducts you intothe Hall of fame. He was busy
and so he's but he's sending overa video. Um, but we're gonna
(45:30):
have I'll leave it a secret,okay for right now, it's it's not
going to be in and won't bedoing it. You know, when a
when a record is starts to connect, when all of these things start to
happen, you know, all ofthe countries around the world want to talk
to you, they want to getshow on the phone, and and that's
that's one of ours. Because youcan definitely tell when records don't connect because
(45:53):
it's U cole and then we're going, hey, don't you want to talk
to me? Does anybody want totalk? Yeah? Um, yeah,
So you know, all the TVshows and and all the you know,
the tours and just everything that's goingon, and it's it's it's uh,
it's lovely. It's really really lovely. It's just wonderful to be uh this
(46:15):
far into our career and to toyou know, to still be in fifth
gear. It's just it's it's it'sjust great. Well, you get better
at every performance. Um, younever know what you're gonna get. When
you're doing an interview and I'm sittingthere please God, let him be good,
Let him be a good interview,let him like what we're talking about.
And you're ten times better than whatI was hoping for. So you're
(46:37):
awesome. Thanks for being so thankyou, thank you. You know,
I wish every interview was like this. I mean, you've all, like
you've done so much research and you'vegone back in, you know, throughout
the history of the band, andyou've touched on, you know, all
these different landmarks and special things,and you could give lessons on how to
conduct a wonderful interview. So you'revery kind. I'm a little butt her
(47:00):
that there's no San Diego stop yetfor Nickelback, so I hope you'll reconsider
that. But well hopefully hopefully thatwas just the first leg in America.
Yeah, yeah, okay, verybest to you. I sure enjoyed it,
and thank you so much for beingso generous at your time here me
as well. Thank you so much. Okay, thanks brother, that's to
you. Awesome. You've been listeningto the Dave Riggards podcast, Stay tuned
(47:23):
for more episodes to come to reachDave for comments or suggestions for future podcast
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