April 12, 2024 • 25 mins
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The Downbeat on ninety seven to one, The Freaky and Too Exacts. Baby,
that's how we need. We cango to the Dog Captain Dog Smoke
that dumble Weed. Good Friday morningMetroplex. Make sure you get on out
there to PGA Frisco. Two daysbeen and skin Show and the Speakeasy will
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be out there from ten to six. Monument Realty, PGA District and Frisco.
They're gonna be out by the TopGolf Lounge PJ Frisco is one of
the new attractions in DFW. I'venever been. Does not matter if you
like golf or not, get onout there. They've got a huge ass
putting green that's a lot of fun. But you know again, a couple
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of different bars, places to eat. It's just a really neat attraction.
Get on out there to PGA Friscobecause that's where the shows are going to
be this afternoon. I think Mikeand I are going to take off rider
for the show and go play thepar three course. I'm going Tiger Woods
now squaring up for Birdie. Onseven we go to Mike s Airoy Live
on the Field seventeenth hole. Normallyjust par get out of here head to
eighteen, which is usually another parhole, but it's very very rare to see
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birdies on seventeen. You just sawone from Max Homo who stuffed it into
about one inch almost hold it outfrom the fairway Tiger Woods from about sixteen
feet uphill, should be breaking slightlyright to left. I don't know if
he has the pace he has justleft that two to three feet short.
The line looked good. Did notget it there. He's been a major
p with the putter, Yeah,kind of has and I might be alone
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on this. I kind of likethe Sunday Red stuff. He started his
own clothing line basically doesn't launch untilMay first, so you can't even get
the crap, but you can seeit. He's wearing it. Look oh,
and he's got his own logo likethat's what he wants to be his
new jump Man or sun Day SundayRed three. Yeah, but it's kind
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of like a that'll be huge ifhe does something big, like I don't
know if he if he used towithdraw from tournaments and majors, then maybe
it doesn't take off, but onetop five finish and Sunday Red will blow
up. It's all yeah, Iwonder if he even needs that because it's
Tiger and I'm not I want aSunday Red shirt. I'll probably go on
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there in early May. Is it? Is it priced it away that we
can all handle? Uh No,I'm sure not on his high end golf
crap. Is he didn get alot of blowback from that logo, Like
people thought it looks like a mustachekind of it looks better than what Jason
Day is wearing because he looks likea member of Wham playing golf. Choose
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life? What is that? He'sgot a vest that looks like they cut
holes in the side of a cigarbox and plopped it on him. He's
a but no, see that's it'sa tricky guy. It's a trick because
he it's like peacocking on the golfcourse, like he's wearing stuff that makes
you notice, It makes you whatis that? Who's this guh? But
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then everyone notices him instantly. Imean, the Sunday Red Tiger is the
most basic gray sweater and tan pants. But Jason Day had these parachute pants
on yesterday and this crazy all right, Tiger is good for par Just make
the cut, the mix, makethe cut. Malbond is the company that
Jason Day signed on with and they'rejust rocking some wild stuff. Well,
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yesterday we were doing big breaking O. J. Simpson news at Mikey saw
the tweet from his family or actuallyfrom his verified O. J. Simpson
account that had been inactive for exactlytwo months. Yesterday, his first tweet
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since February eleventh, twelfth was issued, and it was somebody from his family,
member of his family that said thathe had passed away and his family
was my peacefully passed away blah blahblah blah blah, and I swear to
God. We started breaking that news, trying to be careful about concerning being
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concerned that did his account get hacked? Yeah? Right, But the other
confirmation all you had was his officialaccount, which is worthy of reading with
the caveat that. Look, we'rereading oh Ja's official account. Yeah.
If that's wrong, that's not reallyour fault. And as we are in
the middle of relaying that news,refreshing Google news about oj TMZ finally had
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it and then we went on withit officially that TMZ's reporting and they rarely
get things wrong, man, Idon't ever recall them having to go back
on some type of big first announcementlike this. But I kind of knew
when we realized that the Twitter account, like OJ's account, which he always
had his comment section active, engagedloud comments. This one tweet announcing his
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death, comments were disabled. Hisfamily was like, let's go ahead,
let's not I should have been offthe whole time. I know hacker would
be heady enough. I mean,that is a power. If you hack
someone, announce that person's death andare smart enough to turn off comments,
which is all the fun of hacking, I would imagine. Yeah, well
that is also it was reported hiskids and grandchildren were around him when he
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passed, and we played some ofthose Norm mc donald jokes. He was
awarded custody of his children, youknow, through all of that. So,
I mean there was a big groupof the family who must have maintained
innocence with him. Would you putit five that there is an envelope with
a confession in it? No,I thought nothing. I think it's full
denial. I got away with itbecause of those surviving family life that you
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can't but there's that. But Ialso believe that if the lie is so
big and you've succeeded with that liethat you can convince yourself that the lie
is the truth. Yes, yeah, there is something to that, but
at the root, you know ofthe truth, you always do. What
if he had an envelope just saysI'm sorry, Nicole, I love you,
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something that's like a little vague,a little vague but well sopranos ending,
And I don't know. I gotto read into this and find out.
I guess my interpretation of it isthat he still killed her or not.
And I don't know if people what'sthe percentage of people that think he
didn't who they really there's there's gotto be someone. Of course, there's
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a lot of people that think thathe was he was innocent, that he
was framed. I'm more curious.I don't think they'll find anything like that.
I don't think there's going to besome big confession letter that they're going
to discover. What I'm more interestedin is, now that he is dead,
are there any people that he confidedthe truth in the truth too,
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that kept silent all these years,like a super close friend man. Yeah,
and they just kept silent because theydidn't want to breach his trust.
But now that he's gone, it'slike, yeah, and maybe they've got
a recording or some letter or someadmission of guilt that he made to a
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second party that because of their friendship, that they kept silent, and now
that he's gone, that you findsome actual, real evidence of a confession
from him. I don't think hewould make an open confession to the world,
but he may have done an incompetenceeither. Yeah, you know,
I think yours is far more likely, But I don't know. I mean,
I sent al a message on Instagramwas if he jump on, shut
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up in an answer, because hedoesn't appear to be very active. But
I also do believe that OJ wasa psychopathic narcissist, and I do believe
that that he buried the truth sofar down and after years and years and
years of him being free, youknow, by and large, outside of
the whatever the memorabilia heist that landedhis ass in prison, he probably somehow,
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through years and years of training,his brain convinced himself that he was
innocent and made the memories and thetruth of what happened inaccessible to him.
I think he probably closed that doorand locked it and threw away the key.
And the narrative was the narrative,and that became his truth. So
if you missed, no, Iknow you have audiokud, Well it's too
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much. Let me get at theone minute. I was looking up because
there's an article what happened to thewhite Ford Bronco from the car chase and
it was bought and sold and thensome guy named uh Pooler bought it.
He's called a porn king by afamily, and he was an associate of
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Al Cowlings. And then it wason pawn Stars and they had an offer
of five hundred thousand dollars. Itwas originally sold for two hundred thousand,
offer for five hundred thousand. Itwas declined, said he'd never sell the
vehicle for less than one million.But right now, the white Ford Bronco
resides in a museum, Alcatraz EastCrime Museum in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.
Really, and it's six sits rightnext to John Dillinger's red Essex Terraplane and
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Ted Bundy's Volkswagen Bug. Damn,that's not like a badass museum. I
wonder if if they left it in. I mean it it's exchanged hands numerous
times, so I'm sure people havecleaned it out, but it'd be great
to see it in the exact statethat it was in ninety four. Yeah.
Well, I remember when OJ partof this trial, and I relearned
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all this last night listening to allthese Norm McDonald jokes. But they were
a part of those civil trials werehe would have to give his Heisman trophy
to the Goldman family. And onejoke that Norm had is using the power
of photoshop, he goes they foundAl Calling's trying to get on a transatlantic
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flight with the Heisman trophy with thedisguise on it. Heisman trophy had a
little beard on it. It's like, no, this is not the one,
but I don't know so so.But if you missed, the last
segment played a bunch of jokes fromSaturday Night Live Weekend Update of Norm MacDonald
because he was going after OJ.He was on a mission. He was
on a mission to never let peopleforget that he murdered his wife and her
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his wife's friend. But the coldblood West Coast president of NBC, Donald
Lamier, was a golfing buddy ofO. J. Simpson's friends for twenty
seven years, maintained his innocence,said he was loyal to OJ because OJ
had been loyal to him. Hebelieved in Well, this is where when
it got to after the trial,and it's kind of out of the news
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and more Bill Clinton stuff was morein the news, and Bosnia and Janet
Reno I'm just thought names of thattime and Janet Reno dance party, so
like we don't play my song dirtyLawyer. So it's like all these things
were great, and but OJ's backburnerstuff but still updates on civil trials and
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things like that. Well, finally, Don Olameier in the middle of his
fourth year. Norm's fourth year isthe weekend up date, he said.
He called Norman said you gotta yougotta get rid of Norm, not don't
fire him for the show, butfiring from weekend call. Yeah, lor
my fire, and Norm was like, I just wanted to do sketches.
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I don't want to do sketches.I just wanted to do Weekend Update.
I don't want to do do BertReynolds again. You know I don't.
But Norm said this when he wasfired. This information about management hating him
all came third hand, never faceto face. He said. It was
described to him by other He calledthem suits by other suits, that they
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should be more like Leno crushing amonologue making everyone laugh, not making everyone
cringe. And Norman was like,I really don't care what the audience thinks.
I don't really want applause. Iwant the audience to laugh. They
can't control laughter. They can't control, you know, a visceral reaction.
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Oh oh, but if one personstarts clapping, you know, oh,
everyone thinks they got to clap orlaugh like that. He says, I
don't like that. So he justwanted to do jokes that him and his
friends liked, which, hey,I tell you, Yeah, there's a
legendary writer named Fred Wolf. FredWolf who is on Seraine for many years,
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highly respected in the comedy world.And he said, I've been on
a lot of shows, and whenthe network steps in and makes adjustments or
dabbles with the creative vision, I'venever seen it work or improve ratings at
all. They also didn't fire Normthough again they just kicked him off.
Update, so Olmar tells Norm,get him off. Update. Laurene loved
Norm, and Norm said this.He goes Lauren does not like breaking bad
news to you. It's one thingLauren does not like doing, even though
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he's got a job where you dohave to fire people. Okay, so
Laurene loves Norm. He tells him, but he doesn't fire him. He
tells him, you're off update.We're gonna put Colin Quinn in starting in
January. Oh that was such amistake. Yes, Colin Quinn was awful.
So Norm's like, okay, well, I don't want to be in
sketches and uh, you know,well, I guess I'll go on Letterman.
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So January seventh, again, Normis told over the Christmas break there
you're done with update. January seventh, three days before the first episode of
the second half of Saturday Night Livethat year, where Colin Quinn will be
doing a weekend update. Norm goeson David Letterman and it's amazing. I
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have three clips here and here wego. No, you didn't get fired,
Yeah they fired. No, theydidn't fire ye. No, I'm
serious. I talked to a guythat said I'm fired. Did Lauren Michaels
fire you? No, he didn't. He didn't fire me. He likes
me and staff. Well he ishis show, isn't it. I thought
it was his show? Yeah?They said that this guy Don Olmeyer turns
out to be the president. Yeah, now I know Don Olmyer, and
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just between you and me, he'san idiot. It Oh okay, so
David Letterman's calling Eve an idiot.I love Letterman, I love I love
anybody that will do that. No, this is cool, now Letterman did
Norm did reach out to Letterman forthis. Okay, Letterman thought, is
this just some wrestling thing, likewe're just having fun because I'm in and
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almost like, no, I gotfired and I kind of want to get
out there, even though he wasn'tfully fired. This is what he had
to call Olameyer to find out what'smy status? Am I still on the
show or not? I phoned him, you know, Oh you had to
phone You had to phone him topick up your messages from oh Man.
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So he goes, uh, oh, yeah, I'm I'm firing you there
from the show. And then Isaid, uh oh, that's not good.
And then I said why is thatnow? And he goes, oh,
you're not you know, you're notfunny. And then I said,
uh I said, oh lord,that's even worse news. He goes,
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no, I don't got nothing tofallow back then he's a good man.
He just fired you. What doyou mean he's wrong with you? You
quizzling? Stop that. I don'tknow what quizzling means. That is so
good to go. Oh, I'mnot funny. That's even worse. Worse
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news. What am I gonna do? Here's the last one? Kind of
explaining why he got fired a littlebit also, other than do an update,
I do like sketches, but likeI stink in those, so,
uh, you know, he thinksI'm funny enough, Yeah, it's just
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a weekend update. He doesn't thinkyou're funny. Yeah, yeah, I
think I'm funny and weekend update,and uh god only knows. I mean,
you know, it's just a matterof opinion. He also thinks that
OJ is innocent, exactly exactly.Don't don't let this pinhead push you around.
Now, He's not a pinhead?Is a isn't a is a fat
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guy? Come on, let's godude. What's the guy's name? Don
Olamier? Oh l e y ohyeah, I think Chris Christy kind of
face. Not that fat boy.He got into stand up if you gave
him an extra dollar. No,he's not that bad. He passed in
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twenty seventeen. But he was aI mean, I do well. He
was the Monday night football producer,uh for many years. I mean his
business was not going in and gradingthe jokes of weekend updates, right,
And this was a personal horn handlethat and it was a little disrespectful to
Lorne Michaels agreed and putting Lord Michael'sin a tough spot. Now, Lorne
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Michaels then not as untouchable as heis now going on the fiftieth year of
SNL. When this was around thetwentieth year, this is true, that's
true. I was thinking about,man, didn't Lorne have the juice,
sorry, the power to be ableto say no, I'm not firing him.
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I like him. He's funny,our audience likes him. He's great
on our cast. I'm sorry youyou know, disapprove of his OJ narratives.
But no, he's he's an asset. I would have felt like after
twenty years that Lauren would have hadsome equity enough to stand up to management.
But apparently he was, you know, not as uh, maybe a
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little weaker than than he is now. And Olimar gave Olmar like liked wacky
humor, like he gave Conan thejob. Now, Conan did do an
interview a few years after or Iguess round when Norm died and said,
oolameyer told me to stop booking Lettermanon the show because I mean, it's
just stopped booking Norm MacDonald on theshow, so Conan would have Norm on
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all the time. And then Conanwas like, yeah, I kind of
like it, weird. I hadfeelings of loyalty because Don gave me that
shoe and another thing, I wasreading that S notebook. They were like,
no one got more out of OJthan Jay Leno. Now I don't
necessarily remember that. I'm sure Lettermangot a lot out of the OJ stuff,
but Jay Leno every night doing tenminutes of topical, you know,
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news humor. Yeah, but itwas probably more. It wasn't as shocking
as Norms. It wasn't served ona dish as cold as as Norms was.
And Norm had an agenda. Itwas it was an agenda to never
let people forget that this guy wasa cold blooded murderer. But he also
had another agenda, which was heknew that he didn't have the power to
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fight against management, but he hadenough of a of an arsenal just to
make them cringe and be uncomfortable intheir day to day lives. And for
the people that do that type ofjob, that are the creatives on the
end of it, that are oftenvictims of bad decisions and bad programming decisions.
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That's kind of the only defense orrecourse they have, and that was
what Norm was doing. Well.We should let the audience decide who did
it better. And if you wantto, Kevin, spend the weekend going
through like two hundred j Leno monologuesand pulling the best OJ jokes. Then
on Monday we can play those.I would love to hear that. Yeah,
I would love to hear that too. It was fun to do it.
Daddy would love to hear it too, chronologically And I edited out a
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ton of jokes that you know,were kind of in the same vein but
just didn't make my final cut there. It was fun to do. I
mean, I when we look atit, if that's your job, that's
cool. But Danny says, thebreak was this This case changed the way
we watch TV. I'm saying aboutthis, how true crime is so popular
now? And I don't know,I'm sure there have been plenty of documentaries
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and things made about crime right beforethe OJ trial, but the amount of
just random murder cases now get thesix episode documentary treatment to put on these
streaming platforms that maybe that doesn't existwithout that, I think case TV.
I think that's interesting because we werelocked in captivating twenty if yeah, and
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the ratings boom that happened for anynetwork that carried OJ content. It was
undeniable, and they realized they hadsomething hot on their hands. And I
think that was kind of the springboardto I know, reality TV somewhat existed
prior to that, but it itmade people realize networks, this is cheap.
It's free. Put a camera onOJ. It costs us nothing.
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We're paying you know whatever, fiftybucks an hour to gym to go out
there with a camera. And theyrealized, put real people on TV and
just let them act like be themselves, be what weird humans they are,
and you have hire producers directors tokind of direct the narrative or write things
for them and make it, youknow, more scripted than people believe.
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But it turned, it helped turnthe world into the wrestling, the wrestling
world that we live in now.So co TV rebranded the True TV,
which we now watch the Final Fouron, I mean the March the Big
Tournament on, so that's not evenlike around anymore. But I mean I
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remember my popalls Clyde's house that beingon all the time, learning the names
of Greta van Sustrin or whatever,and you know, that was crazy and
it's and I just was not oldenough to truly understand. I just knew
that he killed her. And maybethose three watch it's already not live.
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I mean, that's probably what itwas. I didn't know evidence and how
long and drawn out it was.But there was something new every week from
that case. Different the glove,the shoes, thirty pairs of shoes,
the same French shoe that Bruno whatwas the name of the name of the
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shoe or shoot, some designer Italianshoe. And OJ died yesterday, despite
his last Twitter video saying that hewas in good health. Magley Bruno mag
that's it. Yep, dang.Someone just tweeted us a link from San
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Francisco Chronicle. You want you shouldcheck it out. It says, you
know Francis Chronicle. O. J. Simpson confesses to family on deathbed you
click on the link. Kevin.Oh Jesus computer, Mike. They said
that link and I clicked it,and it's the naked black guy with the
biggest shlong in the world, sittingin the side of his bed. So
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bravo to you. You know what, I'm giving you out your whole phone
number two one four, not thebiggest one in the world. Creepy shay
of the guys to put like acast on it because of all the chasing.
It's so big. That guy,right, yeah, he died right
when he became one of America's mostfamous men. Someone had him his face
and a Rangers had on him andhad to sign at the Ranger game the
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other day. Just the face thatbeautiful. That's your World Series champion Texas
Rangers love it. I love it. Hey, So are you done?
You have more? No? I'mdone yet. No. Jordan Speith just
walked up to the fifteenth hole.The par five hit the masters, hit
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the fairway, laid up, hitit over the green, blade it into
the water, bladed over the greenagain. He just made a nine.
Are you serious? He's done?Then? He just made a nine on
fifteen. He's six over Parr whohad Speith, He is done zo?
Who had did anybody take speed?Mike? That cut line is gonna get
Do they do top sixty or arethey ten ten strokes here? Do you
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know that's a that's a tough oneto put you. I don't I feel
like two over me? Yeah?Two overs the line. Your former Speithe
is my former champ. Yeah,he's miss he's tied for eightieth. It's
six over. Who has Dustin Johnson? I do? He just doubled fifty
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fourteen and fifteen way to ding Dong, So he's probably because he's fat.
Do you think the wind picked upa little bit there? No, it
doesn't look that windy. It looksmild because Tiger just played those two holes
without in trouble. Yeah, butfifteen is a gettable hole. I mean
the green is tricky to make anine on it. Oh my god.
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Well, your leaders as we speaknow, Bryce and d Schambeau at seven
under, Max Hilma six hundred,Scheffler six under home was on eighteen.
He's got about a seven foot puttfor par to be at six hundreds,
tied for second. Young up andcomer that you should pay attention to.
Nicholas Hoyguard five under Yeah, CamDavis for under, Danny Willett for under
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amateur, Neil Shipley three under ithe always won, isn't there? He's
always one and that's our guy thisyear and many more as they get after
it. Tiger now putting on eighteento finish out his round one. He'll
have round two probably in the nexthour or two. A bird of your
par That is a putt that hemissed, and I think that was Birdie.
Let's hope Tiger's gonna tap in.We're gonna do a Frenkel spot after
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Tiger taps it, don't mark it, tap it in and finish your round.
Tiger, damn it. Don't bendover. The caddy needs to mark
his ball. Too many bends.Grab it out of the hole. Then't
get What's next A surprise, secret, impromptu edition of Dingo's Dartboard. Next
The Downbeat on ninety seven to one, The Freaky and Too Exacts. Baby,
that's how we need. We cango to the Dog Captain Dog Smoke
that dumble Weed. Good Friday morningMetroplex. Make sure you get on out
there to PGA Frisco. Two daysbeen and skin Show and the Speakeasy will
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be out there from ten to six. Monument Realty, PGA District and Frisco.
They're gonna be out by the TopGolf Lounge PJ Frisco is one of
the new attractions in DFW. I'venever been. Does not matter if you
like golf or not, get onout there. They've got a huge ass
putting green that's a lot of fun. But you know again, a couple
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of different bars, places to eat. It's just a really neat attraction.
Get on out there to PGA Friscobecause that's where the shows are going to
be this afternoon. I think Mikeand I are going to take off rider
for the show and go play thepar three course. I'm going Tiger Woods
now squaring up for Birdie. Onseven we go to Mike s Airoy Live
on the Field seventeenth hole. Normallyjust par get out of here head to
eighteen, which is usually another parhole, but it's very very rare to see
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birdies on seventeen. You just sawone from Max Homo who stuffed it into
about one inch almost hold it outfrom the fairway Tiger Woods from about sixteen
feet uphill, should be breaking slightlyright to left. I don't know if
he has the pace he has justleft that two to three feet short.
The line looked good. Did notget it there. He's been a major
p with the putter, Yeah,kind of has and I might be alone
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on this. I kind of likethe Sunday Red stuff. He started his
own clothing line basically doesn't launch untilMay first, so you can't even get
the crap, but you can seeit. He's wearing it. Look oh,
and he's got his own logo likethat's what he wants to be his
new jump Man or sun Day SundayRed three. Yeah, but it's kind
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of like a that'll be huge ifhe does something big, like I don't
know if he if he used towithdraw from tournaments and majors, then maybe
it doesn't take off, but onetop five finish and Sunday Red will blow
up. It's all yeah, Iwonder if he even needs that because it's
Tiger and I'm not I want aSunday Red shirt. I'll probably go on
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there in early May. Is it? Is it priced it away that we
can all handle? Uh No,I'm sure not on his high end golf
crap. Is he didn get alot of blowback from that logo, Like
people thought it looks like a mustachekind of it looks better than what Jason
Day is wearing because he looks likea member of Wham playing golf. Choose
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life? What is that? He'sgot a vest that looks like they cut
holes in the side of a cigarbox and plopped it on him. He's
a but no, see that's it'sa tricky guy. It's a trick because
he it's like peacocking on the golfcourse, like he's wearing stuff that makes
you notice, It makes you whatis that? Who's this guh? But
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then everyone notices him instantly. Imean, the Sunday Red Tiger is the
most basic gray sweater and tan pants. But Jason Day had these parachute pants
on yesterday and this crazy all right, Tiger is good for par Just make
the cut, the mix, makethe cut. Malbond is the company that
Jason Day signed on with and they'rejust rocking some wild stuff. Well,
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yesterday we were doing big breaking O. J. Simpson news at Mikey saw
the tweet from his family or actuallyfrom his verified O. J. Simpson
account that had been inactive for exactlytwo months. Yesterday, his first tweet
(03:44):
since February eleventh, twelfth was issued, and it was somebody from his family,
member of his family that said thathe had passed away and his family
was my peacefully passed away blah blahblah blah blah, and I swear to
God. We started breaking that news, trying to be careful about concerning being
(04:05):
concerned that did his account get hacked? Yeah? Right, But the other
confirmation all you had was his officialaccount, which is worthy of reading with
the caveat that. Look, we'rereading oh Ja's official account. Yeah.
If that's wrong, that's not reallyour fault. And as we are in
the middle of relaying that news,refreshing Google news about oj TMZ finally had
(04:30):
it and then we went on withit officially that TMZ's reporting and they rarely
get things wrong, man, Idon't ever recall them having to go back
on some type of big first announcementlike this. But I kind of knew
when we realized that the Twitter account, like OJ's account, which he always
had his comment section active, engagedloud comments. This one tweet announcing his
(04:55):
death, comments were disabled. Hisfamily was like, let's go ahead,
let's not I should have been offthe whole time. I know hacker would
be heady enough. I mean,that is a power. If you hack
someone, announce that person's death andare smart enough to turn off comments,
which is all the fun of hacking, I would imagine. Yeah, well
that is also it was reported hiskids and grandchildren were around him when he
(05:17):
passed, and we played some ofthose Norm mc donald jokes. He was
awarded custody of his children, youknow, through all of that. So,
I mean there was a big groupof the family who must have maintained
innocence with him. Would you putit five that there is an envelope with
a confession in it? No,I thought nothing. I think it's full
denial. I got away with itbecause of those surviving family life that you
(05:41):
can't but there's that. But Ialso believe that if the lie is so
big and you've succeeded with that liethat you can convince yourself that the lie
is the truth. Yes, yeah, there is something to that, but
at the root, you know ofthe truth, you always do. What
if he had an envelope just saysI'm sorry, Nicole, I love you,
(06:02):
something that's like a little vague,a little vague but well sopranos ending,
And I don't know. I gotto read into this and find out.
I guess my interpretation of it isthat he still killed her or not.
And I don't know if people what'sthe percentage of people that think he
didn't who they really there's there's gotto be someone. Of course, there's
(06:24):
a lot of people that think thathe was he was innocent, that he
was framed. I'm more curious.I don't think they'll find anything like that.
I don't think there's going to besome big confession letter that they're going
to discover. What I'm more interestedin is, now that he is dead,
are there any people that he confidedthe truth in the truth too,
(06:44):
that kept silent all these years,like a super close friend man. Yeah,
and they just kept silent because theydidn't want to breach his trust.
But now that he's gone, it'slike, yeah, and maybe they've got
a recording or some letter or someadmission of guilt that he made to a
(07:05):
second party that because of their friendship, that they kept silent, and now
that he's gone, that you findsome actual, real evidence of a confession
from him. I don't think hewould make an open confession to the world,
but he may have done an incompetenceeither. Yeah, you know,
I think yours is far more likely, But I don't know. I mean,
I sent al a message on Instagramwas if he jump on, shut
(07:30):
up in an answer, because hedoesn't appear to be very active. But
I also do believe that OJ wasa psychopathic narcissist, and I do believe
that that he buried the truth sofar down and after years and years and
years of him being free, youknow, by and large, outside of
the whatever the memorabilia heist that landedhis ass in prison, he probably somehow,
(07:58):
through years and years of training,his brain convinced himself that he was
innocent and made the memories and thetruth of what happened inaccessible to him.
I think he probably closed that doorand locked it and threw away the key.
And the narrative was the narrative,and that became his truth. So
if you missed, no, Iknow you have audiokud, Well it's too
(08:22):
much. Let me get at theone minute. I was looking up because
there's an article what happened to thewhite Ford Bronco from the car chase and
it was bought and sold and thensome guy named uh Pooler bought it.
He's called a porn king by afamily, and he was an associate of
(08:43):
Al Cowlings. And then it wason pawn Stars and they had an offer
of five hundred thousand dollars. Itwas originally sold for two hundred thousand,
offer for five hundred thousand. Itwas declined, said he'd never sell the
vehicle for less than one million.But right now, the white Ford Bronco
resides in a museum, Alcatraz EastCrime Museum in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee.
Really, and it's six sits rightnext to John Dillinger's red Essex Terraplane and
(09:09):
Ted Bundy's Volkswagen Bug. Damn,that's not like a badass museum. I
wonder if if they left it in. I mean it it's exchanged hands numerous
times, so I'm sure people havecleaned it out, but it'd be great
to see it in the exact statethat it was in ninety four. Yeah.
Well, I remember when OJ partof this trial, and I relearned
(09:33):
all this last night listening to allthese Norm McDonald jokes. But they were
a part of those civil trials werehe would have to give his Heisman trophy
to the Goldman family. And onejoke that Norm had is using the power
of photoshop, he goes they foundAl Calling's trying to get on a transatlantic
(09:54):
flight with the Heisman trophy with thedisguise on it. Heisman trophy had a
little beard on it. It's like, no, this is not the one,
but I don't know so so.But if you missed, the last
segment played a bunch of jokes fromSaturday Night Live Weekend Update of Norm MacDonald
because he was going after OJ.He was on a mission. He was
on a mission to never let peopleforget that he murdered his wife and her
(10:18):
his wife's friend. But the coldblood West Coast president of NBC, Donald
Lamier, was a golfing buddy ofO. J. Simpson's friends for twenty
seven years, maintained his innocence,said he was loyal to OJ because OJ
had been loyal to him. Hebelieved in Well, this is where when
it got to after the trial,and it's kind of out of the news
(10:39):
and more Bill Clinton stuff was morein the news, and Bosnia and Janet
Reno I'm just thought names of thattime and Janet Reno dance party, so
like we don't play my song dirtyLawyer. So it's like all these things
were great, and but OJ's backburnerstuff but still updates on civil trials and
(11:03):
things like that. Well, finally, Don Olameier in the middle of his
fourth year. Norm's fourth year isthe weekend up date, he said.
He called Norman said you gotta yougotta get rid of Norm, not don't
fire him for the show, butfiring from weekend call. Yeah, lor
my fire, and Norm was like, I just wanted to do sketches.
(11:26):
I don't want to do sketches.I just wanted to do Weekend Update.
I don't want to do do BertReynolds again. You know I don't.
But Norm said this when he wasfired. This information about management hating him
all came third hand, never faceto face. He said. It was
described to him by other He calledthem suits by other suits, that they
(11:46):
should be more like Leno crushing amonologue making everyone laugh, not making everyone
cringe. And Norman was like,I really don't care what the audience thinks.
I don't really want applause. Iwant the audience to laugh. They
can't control laughter. They can't control, you know, a visceral reaction.
(12:07):
Oh oh, but if one personstarts clapping, you know, oh,
everyone thinks they got to clap orlaugh like that. He says, I
don't like that. So he justwanted to do jokes that him and his
friends liked, which, hey,I tell you, Yeah, there's a
legendary writer named Fred Wolf. FredWolf who is on Seraine for many years,
(12:31):
highly respected in the comedy world.And he said, I've been on
a lot of shows, and whenthe network steps in and makes adjustments or
dabbles with the creative vision, I'venever seen it work or improve ratings at
all. They also didn't fire Normthough again they just kicked him off.
Update, so Olmar tells Norm,get him off. Update. Laurene loved
Norm, and Norm said this.He goes Lauren does not like breaking bad
news to you. It's one thingLauren does not like doing, even though
(12:52):
he's got a job where you dohave to fire people. Okay, so
Laurene loves Norm. He tells him, but he doesn't fire him. He
tells him, you're off update.We're gonna put Colin Quinn in starting in
January. Oh that was such amistake. Yes, Colin Quinn was awful.
So Norm's like, okay, well, I don't want to be in
sketches and uh, you know,well, I guess I'll go on Letterman.
(13:16):
So January seventh, again, Normis told over the Christmas break there
you're done with update. January seventh, three days before the first episode of
the second half of Saturday Night Livethat year, where Colin Quinn will be
doing a weekend update. Norm goeson David Letterman and it's amazing. I
(13:37):
have three clips here and here wego. No, you didn't get fired,
Yeah they fired. No, theydidn't fire ye. No, I'm
serious. I talked to a guythat said I'm fired. Did Lauren Michaels
fire you? No, he didn't. He didn't fire me. He likes
me and staff. Well he ishis show, isn't it. I thought
it was his show? Yeah?They said that this guy Don Olmeyer turns
out to be the president. Yeah, now I know Don Olmyer, and
(13:58):
just between you and me, he'san idiot. It Oh okay, so
David Letterman's calling Eve an idiot.I love Letterman, I love I love
anybody that will do that. No, this is cool, now Letterman did
Norm did reach out to Letterman forthis. Okay, Letterman thought, is
this just some wrestling thing, likewe're just having fun because I'm in and
(14:20):
almost like, no, I gotfired and I kind of want to get
out there, even though he wasn'tfully fired. This is what he had
to call Olameyer to find out what'smy status? Am I still on the
show or not? I phoned him, you know, Oh you had to
phone You had to phone him topick up your messages from oh Man.
(14:41):
So he goes, uh, oh, yeah, I'm I'm firing you there
from the show. And then Isaid, uh oh, that's not good.
And then I said why is thatnow? And he goes, oh,
you're not you know, you're notfunny. And then I said,
uh I said, oh lord,that's even worse news. He goes,
(15:01):
no, I don't got nothing tofallow back then he's a good man.
He just fired you. What doyou mean he's wrong with you? You
quizzling? Stop that. I don'tknow what quizzling means. That is so
good to go. Oh, I'mnot funny. That's even worse. Worse
(15:26):
news. What am I gonna do? Here's the last one? Kind of
explaining why he got fired a littlebit also, other than do an update,
I do like sketches, but likeI stink in those, so,
uh, you know, he thinksI'm funny enough, Yeah, it's just
(15:46):
a weekend update. He doesn't thinkyou're funny. Yeah, yeah, I
think I'm funny and weekend update,and uh god only knows. I mean,
you know, it's just a matterof opinion. He also thinks that
OJ is innocent, exactly exactly.Don't don't let this pinhead push you around.
Now, He's not a pinhead?Is a isn't a is a fat
(16:07):
guy? Come on, let's godude. What's the guy's name? Don
Olamier? Oh l e y ohyeah, I think Chris Christy kind of
face. Not that fat boy.He got into stand up if you gave
him an extra dollar. No,he's not that bad. He passed in
(16:29):
twenty seventeen. But he was aI mean, I do well. He
was the Monday night football producer,uh for many years. I mean his
business was not going in and gradingthe jokes of weekend updates, right,
And this was a personal horn handlethat and it was a little disrespectful to
Lorne Michaels agreed and putting Lord Michael'sin a tough spot. Now, Lorne
(16:52):
Michaels then not as untouchable as heis now going on the fiftieth year of
SNL. When this was around thetwentieth year, this is true, that's
true. I was thinking about,man, didn't Lorne have the juice,
sorry, the power to be ableto say no, I'm not firing him.
(17:14):
I like him. He's funny,our audience likes him. He's great
on our cast. I'm sorry youyou know, disapprove of his OJ narratives.
But no, he's he's an asset. I would have felt like after
twenty years that Lauren would have hadsome equity enough to stand up to management.
But apparently he was, you know, not as uh, maybe a
(17:34):
little weaker than than he is now. And Olimar gave Olmar like liked wacky
humor, like he gave Conan thejob. Now, Conan did do an
interview a few years after or Iguess round when Norm died and said,
oolameyer told me to stop booking Lettermanon the show because I mean, it's
just stopped booking Norm MacDonald on theshow, so Conan would have Norm on
(17:56):
all the time. And then Conanwas like, yeah, I kind of
like it, weird. I hadfeelings of loyalty because Don gave me that
shoe and another thing, I wasreading that S notebook. They were like,
no one got more out of OJthan Jay Leno. Now I don't
necessarily remember that. I'm sure Lettermangot a lot out of the OJ stuff,
but Jay Leno every night doing tenminutes of topical, you know,
(18:18):
news humor. Yeah, but itwas probably more. It wasn't as shocking
as Norms. It wasn't served ona dish as cold as as Norms was.
And Norm had an agenda. Itwas it was an agenda to never
let people forget that this guy wasa cold blooded murderer. But he also
had another agenda, which was heknew that he didn't have the power to
(18:45):
fight against management, but he hadenough of a of an arsenal just to
make them cringe and be uncomfortable intheir day to day lives. And for
the people that do that type ofjob, that are the creatives on the
end of it, that are oftenvictims of bad decisions and bad programming decisions.
(19:07):
That's kind of the only defense orrecourse they have, and that was
what Norm was doing. Well.We should let the audience decide who did
it better. And if you wantto, Kevin, spend the weekend going
through like two hundred j Leno monologuesand pulling the best OJ jokes. Then
on Monday we can play those.I would love to hear that. Yeah,
I would love to hear that too. It was fun to do it.
Daddy would love to hear it too, chronologically And I edited out a
(19:30):
ton of jokes that you know,were kind of in the same vein but
just didn't make my final cut there. It was fun to do. I
mean, I when we look atit, if that's your job, that's
cool. But Danny says, thebreak was this This case changed the way
we watch TV. I'm saying aboutthis, how true crime is so popular
now? And I don't know,I'm sure there have been plenty of documentaries
(19:51):
and things made about crime right beforethe OJ trial, but the amount of
just random murder cases now get thesix episode documentary treatment to put on these
streaming platforms that maybe that doesn't existwithout that, I think case TV.
I think that's interesting because we werelocked in captivating twenty if yeah, and
(20:15):
the ratings boom that happened for anynetwork that carried OJ content. It was
undeniable, and they realized they hadsomething hot on their hands. And I
think that was kind of the springboardto I know, reality TV somewhat existed
prior to that, but it itmade people realize networks, this is cheap.
It's free. Put a camera onOJ. It costs us nothing.
(20:38):
We're paying you know whatever, fiftybucks an hour to gym to go out
there with a camera. And theyrealized, put real people on TV and
just let them act like be themselves, be what weird humans they are,
and you have hire producers directors tokind of direct the narrative or write things
for them and make it, youknow, more scripted than people believe.
(20:59):
But it turned, it helped turnthe world into the wrestling, the wrestling
world that we live in now.So co TV rebranded the True TV,
which we now watch the Final Fouron, I mean the March the Big
Tournament on, so that's not evenlike around anymore. But I mean I
(21:21):
remember my popalls Clyde's house that beingon all the time, learning the names
of Greta van Sustrin or whatever,and you know, that was crazy and
it's and I just was not oldenough to truly understand. I just knew
that he killed her. And maybethose three watch it's already not live.
(21:42):
I mean, that's probably what itwas. I didn't know evidence and how
long and drawn out it was.But there was something new every week from
that case. Different the glove,the shoes, thirty pairs of shoes,
the same French shoe that Bruno whatwas the name of the name of the
(22:03):
shoe or shoot, some designer Italianshoe. And OJ died yesterday, despite
his last Twitter video saying that hewas in good health. Magley Bruno mag
that's it. Yep, dang.Someone just tweeted us a link from San
(22:25):
Francisco Chronicle. You want you shouldcheck it out. It says, you
know Francis Chronicle. O. J. Simpson confesses to family on deathbed you
click on the link. Kevin.Oh Jesus computer, Mike. They said
that link and I clicked it,and it's the naked black guy with the
biggest shlong in the world, sittingin the side of his bed. So
(22:48):
bravo to you. You know what, I'm giving you out your whole phone
number two one four, not thebiggest one in the world. Creepy shay
of the guys to put like acast on it because of all the chasing.
It's so big. That guy,right, yeah, he died right
when he became one of America's mostfamous men. Someone had him his face
and a Rangers had on him andhad to sign at the Ranger game the
(23:11):
other day. Just the face thatbeautiful. That's your World Series champion Texas
Rangers love it. I love it. Hey, So are you done?
You have more? No? I'mdone yet. No. Jordan Speith just
walked up to the fifteenth hole.The par five hit the masters, hit
(23:34):
the fairway, laid up, hitit over the green, blade it into
the water, bladed over the greenagain. He just made a nine.
Are you serious? He's done?Then? He just made a nine on
fifteen. He's six over Parr whohad Speith, He is done zo?
Who had did anybody take speed?Mike? That cut line is gonna get
Do they do top sixty or arethey ten ten strokes here? Do you
(23:56):
know that's a that's a tough oneto put you. I don't I feel
like two over me? Yeah?Two overs the line. Your former Speithe
is my former champ. Yeah,he's miss he's tied for eightieth. It's
six over. Who has Dustin Johnson? I do? He just doubled fifty
(24:17):
fourteen and fifteen way to ding Dong, So he's probably because he's fat.
Do you think the wind picked upa little bit there? No, it
doesn't look that windy. It looksmild because Tiger just played those two holes
without in trouble. Yeah, butfifteen is a gettable hole. I mean
the green is tricky to make anine on it. Oh my god.
(24:37):
Well, your leaders as we speaknow, Bryce and d Schambeau at seven
under, Max Hilma six hundred,Scheffler six under home was on eighteen.
He's got about a seven foot puttfor par to be at six hundreds,
tied for second. Young up andcomer that you should pay attention to.
Nicholas Hoyguard five under Yeah, CamDavis for under, Danny Willett for under
(24:57):
amateur, Neil Shipley three under ithe always won, isn't there? He's
always one and that's our guy thisyear and many more as they get after
it. Tiger now putting on eighteento finish out his round one. He'll
have round two probably in the nexthour or two. A bird of your
par That is a putt that hemissed, and I think that was Birdie.
Let's hope Tiger's gonna tap in.We're gonna do a Frenkel spot after
(25:19):
Tiger taps it, don't mark it, tap it in and finish your round.
Tiger, damn it. Don't bendover. The caddy needs to mark
his ball. Too many bends.Grab it out of the hole. Then't
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