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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'm your hosting on the Long with Changs Harder.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I've got the Spurs Countdown show tonight six thirty tipoff
or six thirty tipoff for me on countdown. A lot
of people are you know, last game of the season, Shane.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Now we do sixty two and nineteen? Ah, yeah, what
do we do? Well?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Luke Cornett has been ruled out tonight shoulder issue.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yep, he did get an injury there.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
On Friday, right, Devin Vessel, he's a game time decision
right now for Ribs, Stefan castle Foot game time decision
victor women Yama game time decision. And of course David
Jones Garcia is out now the list for dimver And
this is what makes it scary for Jokic.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm gonna say that right off the bat.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, Peyton Watson out, Spencer Jones out, Cameron Johnson out,
Tim Hardaway Junior out, Christian Brown out. You really want
to put Jokichen with a mix of people that aren't
that good.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
The only thing that they douggest way have going for
them anymore is because if they if they win this game,
then they then they lock in the three seed.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I know, and I want them to not win.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yeah, you want you want the Lakers to win, because
that sets up I.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Swear if the Lakers lose to the Jazz, Shane, I'm
calling deliberate fouls.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I mean, the thing is they might. Did you see
the injury report?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Everybody's injury report, dude, I would hate to be the
guy that runs the injury report today because that's like
at the end, it's almost like tax seasons.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So here we go earlier today. So Austin Reeves is out,
Luca's out. So that's six sixty only sixty four games.
We'll get to that a little bit later on the show.
Lebron's questionable and so like. So that's their injury report
right now. Is like, so a lot of their key
players won't play the game, which means it might set
up the Nuggets towards they also have a lot of
their players not playing. Now, I need to see when
the Lakers play tonight, because.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Where the last game?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh wait, no, the Lakers play at seven thirty the
same time we do.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Oh it's going the exact same. Oh they did that
on Burpose. Oh yeah they did, and they don't want
anyone sitting.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Okay, it's kind of like the Premier League where they
start making these matches at the same time.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, but here's the thing too.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
If you're Utah, I know that we don't talk tanking
in the NBA, but don't you want to lose? I'm
just saying, don't you want to get a better chance
in the lottery, Utah? So that game is probably gonna
be terrible, you know, And that goes against this whole
you know, sixty five game rule, whatever you know at
the end of the day. But there is a lot
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at stake in the Western Conference from three through six, right,
and the key word here, who would you rather face
in the second round?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Would you rather face the Lakers or the Nuggets?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Lakers or exactly it's not even like it's not even
I'm not even scared of the Nuggets.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It's more just there hurt more.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Now, what makes this a prideful game for the Spurs
is that if Denver is to win tonight, they would
be the only team to have a winning record against
the San Antonio Spurs this season. And by the way,
Denver in these last seven games has been five to
two against the same Antonio Spurs. And knowing who Wimby
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is and knowing who Mitch Johnson is, I think the
Spurs come out and try to win this game tonight,
obviously in front of your home crowd.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I think it's fan appreciation night as well.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But it's one of those tests where it's like, Okay,
do you go all out because I mean, again, you're
gonna be off for about a week because playoffs don't
start till the eighteenth.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Don't hold me to the fire, everybody, but I'm assuming
that the Spurs will play next Sunday in a game
one at home.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm assuming that if the playing.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Goes the way that we think it will, and it
sets up they've bavid the Tuesday, they probably would play Sunday, right.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, but here here's here's the fun part here too.
How about this, Shane. Okay, the Trailblazers have moved their
way up a little bit. They're now like, if the
playoffs were the playing was to start today, which you want,
I mean, obviously, we still gotta we gotta play it out.
It's the Suns versus Trailblazers that would be our first opponent.
The winner of that game. The Clippers have now gone
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into the ninth seed, It's Clippers Warriors right now, Sun's Trailblazers.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Now the Warriors are in there.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
At thirty seven and forty four, and a lot of
people have given the Warriors, well, specifically one player Curry.
Danny Green even said it himself, because Curry has returned, right, Yeah,
Why why has Curry returned in a season like this?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Because I think that he still believes that he can
carry his team to a championship because remember last year
that they weren't supposed to make it to the second
round and they did?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Or is it because we have to have people watch
the play in tournament and Curry's going to be there
in an elimination game?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Right off the back, Curry cares about TV ratings?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh no, are the Warriors done? Is it time to
rebuild the Warriors?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Shane? Well, yeah, at thirty seven and forty four.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's why they've been trying to move Draymond Green for
the past couple of years. Before the game and the extension, do.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
We let go of Steve Kerr?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Or do we let Steve Curg just kind of walk
off on his own?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You can't let the coach go just because you're going
through a rebuild. No organization really does that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
The last year what Dinver did.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
They don't do that unless the team is really really bad.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
If they're going through a rebuild because they're trading away assets,
you keep the coach if you think that he can
get you over that hump. If you just suck for
years on end, then yeah, you go through a total rebuild.
You fired the GM, you fired the coach, you trade
all your assets. That's a true over I think the
Warriors probably need more of a reset than a true rebuild.
I don't think I think they still I think they
still think they have enough pieces that if they moved
on from maybe the Draymond Green contract or whoever they
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could be said it now.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I know that there's been a lot of talk in
the Western Conference Shane obviously the Thunder, obviously the Spurs.
Right they've they've been the little little darlings of the
Western Conference this season.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
A lot of people are talking about him.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What is the one team that could beat both of
them no matter which way they go in the playoff bracket?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Timberwolves?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You think the Timberwolves, No, the Spurs, no, like, who
could beat No? I'm saying, oh if they went the
direction against the Thunder, or if they went the direction
against the Spurs.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Oh, who could beat I'm misunderstood that.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, it's just saying, okay, if they
played okay, the only so the only team that I think.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Could beat either one of them.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I honestly I was joking, but I kind of still
think the T Wolves can and T Wolves I think
they match up well with the Spurs athletically. I think
they've shown they can beat the Thunder. I think I
think the T and plus people forget the TEA Wolves
have been in the back to back Western Conference championships.
They have as many planned experience as about many teams
in the West right now. I think they're a real
threat even if they are.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Sixteed and they have the experience.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't think the T Wolves can survive Dimber if
that were to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think here's my thing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I think they survived the Lakers in a first round.
I think they can beat them in five because they've
done it before. Because Minnesota is going to be physical, right,
They're physical and Luca's not physical. I'm sorry, Laker fan
that's listening. And if you want to call call, but
Luca is not physical. He cries every time, and I
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swear his legs bleed every game, and I think they're
like little ketchup packets at this point.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And he cries to the refs every time.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Which in the playoffs, Shane, both you and I know this,
the rest are gonna say cry all you want because
it's gonna be physical basketball.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I will give the NBA credit this for this season one,
because I've seen almost every game this season. They're letting
the players be a little bit more physical, and I
like it. But that's the one thing that the Spurs
have got to understand going into the playoffs, which if
you were to ask Wimby about it, Wimmy would be like, Dude,
check out my scratches and my bruises on my arms
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every game, right, And I know that he missed that
game earlier this week.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Tell you this, Paul George, that was a cheap shot, bro.
I saw your full arm extension knocking Winby down to
the ground. Now we said that they collided, the article
said collided shape.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I don't think it was on the Zaza level. Let's go,
let's let's slow down a little bit on the indie.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm not saying that it was a Zaza right, but
I'm saying, hey, I'm gonna do a full court extension
arm length on you, and I'm gonna knock you down
on the ground.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I definitely think the incent was to slowed down. I
don't think the intent was to go for the ribs
the way he did.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I do both him and Himbad that night.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, but there they were going pound for pound against him.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I do think there was some intent to phy be
to body him. I don't think there was some intent
in some in ways we've seen, like with Draymond or
with Grayson Allen, my least favorite player in the NBA
MNBA history, to actually, like, you know, full on injure
the player. I don't think the incent was there. Paul
George has never been that guy.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, And I don't know, because here's my thing about
Paul George. That was dirty. I'm not saying Zaza, which,
by the way, the last time we played Golden State,
did you see he was sitting court side? Was sitting
there court side. I'm like, you better keep your feet
away from Wimby.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Dude on Mojo. Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know what I mean, Like they brought him deliberately
to sit court side.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You're a wonder Like what happens if, like if Kawhi
never lands on that win the championship, the trickle down
effect beyond just win the championship is quite say, oh yeah, exactly, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He would have stayed. He would have done this.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's almost like the what do they call it, like
the butterfly effect. Yeah, you know where it's like if
this would have happened, if this would have happened. But
I can tell you this, if that didn't happen, we
wouldn't have Wimby.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Let's just be honest. That's you know. I mean at
the end of the day, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And I know people just they when I bring up
Kawhi and in the Spurs history segment, God do they
hate it.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I get text messages he's part of it.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Though he's part of it.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
He's part of the fourteen season, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
And the thing is is, even the other day I
was listening to Dan and of course, the long time
play caller of the s Antonio Spurs on the radio
network Bill Shoning.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He was interviewing him.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We don't talk enough about that seventeen team, that sixteen
seventeen team for for the Spurs, who had sixty seven
wins and they went forty and one at home. Who
goes forty and one? They did, But what sucks is
that a foot goes in there and kills it all.
I remember because I was covering post game and he
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went down before halftime, and I think we were up
by like thirty. To be honest with you, it's like, ah,
we'll hang on. I'm listening all the way down going
over to the old studios back in the day, and
I'm just seeing the lead trickle and trickle and trickle
and trickle, and then you just kind of get onto
postgame and you're like, season's over.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
There was no way we were winning.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's why people hate Kawhi so much, Shane is because, yeah,
him going down eliminated the Big three could do nothing
about it because of age. Sorry, but that's the truth, right,
And then you try to you know, you had LaMarcus Aldridge.
Lamarct's Aldridge. There's a lot of people off too, right
because he kind of comes into San ANTOI He's like, well,
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I got paid.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
He doesn't really give us a lot.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Not the same guy. He wasn't in Portland for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So I guess the butterfly effect in this segment is
from the sixteen seventeen squad. It's the what if factor,
because what if this happens? But this happens, so we
moved down here. We barely get into the COVID play
in tournament. I think we got into that tournament. We
got invited out to Orlando during the bubble.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, did we I think we did, but we didn't.
But they didn't qualify for the playoffs. I think they
were one of the Remember they only had like twenty
two teams who weren't yet eliminated.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And then you watch.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Kawhi leave and go get a championship in Toronto, and
then Fred Van Fleet likes to talk, which, by the way,
I think he got cursed because he's been out for
the season, so whatever, he wants to talk bad about Popovich,
which I'm like, bro, you have no chance to be
talking about him. Seriously, you just did that. And by
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the way, Kawhi was only going to be there for
a season. I love the fact that we sent him
to Toronto and then we had DeRozan and everybody kind
of likes de Rozan and we're like, hey, you're the guy,
and of course we get rid of him. And then
you had that trade last season to bring in dearon
Fox to come in and play. Obviously, Chris Paul was
only gonna come in here for one season. But that's
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what you're gonna start seeing in San Antonio. Now you're
gonna start seeing all these players wanting to come in
and play for Wimby.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Lebron's kind of hinted at it, even though he wants
to retire. I really hope he retires.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Speaking of retirement, coming up next, we've got a sand
Lot Fanatics segment and it's got a retirement that kind
of broke more next on the Fanatics on Tickets seven
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