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Speaker 1 (00:04):
We got a coming.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
People in here shout out to Pepe's tacos and SALTSI
he's currently recovery over there at the hospital. He has
nothing better to listen to but to us, and so
we appreciate him for that.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Igize that's all.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Richard Travino is in, Stephen Hopper is in, Carl Fisher
is in.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Everybody's joining I wonder why. I love it.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah, we also have someone called right before the end
of the break who wants to give us to give
us their take take on what who this is?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is a c F if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
A hello, gentleman. Yes, I am calling because the show
is running smoothly until I heard some ridiculous takes come
from the mouth of Shane Carter.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Here we go, how about it? I love this guy.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
Why are we trading up? I thought we established last
week disaster scenarios. We're gonna stand pat and take the
best player available because we have so many holes on
this team. We are talking about trading up for a
sub armed defensive end or a slower than average safety
(01:14):
because of name recognition.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Gentlemen, please calm down.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
If anything, we need to trade back with the Houston Texans,
who at the twelve spot need all the offensive help
they can get. You're gonna laugh at me, but I'm
telling you, gentlemen, we got twelve twenty or twenty and
twenty eight. We get Coldenhood, Anthony Hill Junior. We're set.
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And one more thing before I go.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I am so excited to see the Spurs play the
Timberwolves in the second round. I don't even like the Spurs,
but that's gonna be the best series in the whole playoffs.
Y'all have the great Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I love this guy, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You know, here's the thing good. I was the one
that did the trade talk, but I love the fact
that he said it was you so there, okay, you
can call in two one zero, seven, three six at
nine seven to sixty. I liked his players that he picked.
Give us your Cowboys, take am. I two over excited?
Is Shane too over excited to trade up for the possibility?
Or give us what we want to talk about now,
which is your San Antonio Spurs. Hey, fun fact about
(02:16):
this twenty twenty six team, Shane.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, did you know that they're the only.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Team in recorded stats history to have eight players averaging
double figures.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
For the season.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I saw that somewhere.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Isn't that amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
There's been a lot of really.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Good teams over the years, but I mean, to be fair,
most of those really good teams have two or three
superstars that take on most of the points.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So it makes a lot of sense that.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
A team that's so deep like the Spurs would have
multiple guys at double d's.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, you gotta love it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean Darren Fox averaging eighteen point five points, Devon
Faceell thirteen point eight, Steph Castle at sixteen point eight,
Victor at twenty five points a game, Julian Champagne eleven
point two, Harrison Barnes ten points a game, Killed Johnson
thirteen point one, and good old Dylan Harper at eleven
point eight.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
By the way, like you said, I did not say
they should trade up. But in Dylan's scenario, if I
said all those guys fell and they could tramp to
number nine, it will cost him was a third, then yeah,
I would do that, because really much of a trade up,
it's really yeah, you're basically like moving off from a
third to get to get a better player than would
likely follow you.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
At twelve anyway.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But I wanted to bring this up because you and I,
you and I feel like are on an opposite end
of the spectrum on this and that's the NBA sixty
five game.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Rue.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I believe that it is unfair, and I think it
needs to be altered, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I think. Here, here's why, here's why, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Luka danci is just gonna miss it on All NBA
and okay, so so are players.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
We're going to take a hit past.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
If Jokic doesn't make it tonight, then he missed out
All NBA. Okay, Kenenham misses out in the All NBA.
Wemby almost missed out on the Defensive Player of the
Year if he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Play the other Knights.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, he knows it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
So you're you've been okay with that.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He is the best defensive player the last three years,
the best defensive player of the NBA would have not
won Defensive Player of the Year because of an arbitrary
rule saying that less.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Than twenty doesn't count because he was you know.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah, but his rookie year when they gave it to
who they give it to the other French guy, what's
his name, Rudy Gobert. They gave it to him just
because they don't give it to a rookie when obviously
the best defensive party of the league, even at nineteen,
was Wimby.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
We can agree on.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That, Yeah, we can agree on that.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The fact that oh, Wemby misses one game less than
he should have, he doesn't qualify for the role when
he's clearly the best player.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
That they need to change the rule. They need to
I am okay.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
This is a business decision.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I am okay saying that they want to have a
minimum to qualify for this kind of thing, But that's
also messed with players money, because if these players don't
make the All NBA Team, All Defense Team, whatever it is,
they don't qualify for super maxes. So now you're getting
Now you're getting in hands and people's pockets.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Go ahead, you can do so.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I have my hand up to kind of prove a
point here on the business side of things.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Shane.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I'm a general manager. I want to win championships, but
I want to be consistent about it. I want to
build a team that's not all about superstars. I want
to build a team that's all about playing the game
and doing their job.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Does that make sense? Look, I'm here about individual awards.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Love individual awards, but I'm gonna break it down for
you on my high school side, for my daughter, I
have to tell her that the individual awards don't matter.
It's about your team. Stop looking at your individual awards.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Look, man, Wimby knows it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Wimby made a case for it after they played Miami
the second time.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We all know that he got the extra game in.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Because guess what, Shane, If he doesn't get that extra
final Cup game in that they counted, guess what he's
having to do tonight. He's having to play again, right,
so he gets the option. Look, Jokic, I scratched my
head why he did not play against the Thunder the
other day. I scratch my head at this because the
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Nuggets now are resting other players. We're resting Castle. Anybody
arguing about that Castle was fit? No, you fit into
the sixty five games. Oh, he's played sixty seven games.
He already qualifies. Yeah, so they're gonna get to that threshold.
That's what these need to get to. Used to be
not this way, Shane.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It used to be.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Look, yeah, Luca got hurt. Oh well, kay, Cunningham got hurt.
That sucks, trust me because as a Spurs fan, I
said it last year, right oh, because that's it's a
doggy dog world. Because when Winby got out last year,
whoever who won it last year Defensive Player of the Year, Uh,
that would.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Have been the kit they got from the Calves. I
like mobile Evan Mobley.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, okay, cool, you had it for one season.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Enjoy it and you shouldn't and you should and he
shouldn't have gotten it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
But your superstars, if.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You're gonna play and you're gonna pay super max contracts,
I'm expecting.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Them to play more than sixty five games, Shane.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And that's fair.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm expecting them to play the get injuries.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
The fairness and that like hey if I'm if I'm
paying you, I don't know, like eighty million dollars a year,
fully guaranteed, and the expectations you go out there and play,
especially the home games.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You can't sit the home games. I get that aspect.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
My thing is this, there shouldn't be a rule in
place putting on bare minimums to go against a lot
of these rules, because they don't have that in baseball.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
They don't have that in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
They don't have that in any other team sport, but basketball,
which has to be so special.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's why they have their own little draft lottery.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
They have to have their own rules set aside to
where like, hey, even if you were the best player
in the league, you missed too many games, you don't
count if let me if we can, we can argue
all day, but let's reality is that shay go des
Alexanders probably.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Win the MVP, right, yeah, pretty much. What if he
had missed eighteen games, Well, then he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
What if he had by far, like the most points
per game, most assists per game in NBA history through
an age two game schedule, and he missed eighteen games.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Bro Wimby had the most blocks through how many games
last year?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He had three and a half or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, well, then there's disqualifiers.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Well, but doesn't need to be disqualifiers though, because now
you can mess with players' money. Is that really fair
that we had to say, hey, you're not all defensive player,
EVENI you're the best defensive player in the league, because
you missed a certain amount of games. Luca missed a
game because his kid was being born. Okay, does he
not get an exemption for that?
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Okay, I understand. Maybe you're a dad, so I'm a dad.
Maybe maybe amending it a little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, But there's also there's also players, and there's also coaches.
There's also the internal staff that will come up with injuries, Shane,
They will come up with injuries.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, I get personal reasons.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Personal reasons should probably not count towards the sixty five
game eligibility because guess what outside of sports life is
going on three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I understand that.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But okay, so here's my thing, and I'll go to
Oklahoma City Thunder right now, how come they rested eighteen
thousand players against the Spurs the last time they faced them. Why,
that's what the league is gonna go to, Shane. That's
what they're gonna say. Why are you resting the guys
when we have a national TV lineup against your Spurs?
(08:41):
And okay, see and Thunder does that. That's exactly what
this rule is for.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I think the rule doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I think the rule needs to be altered more for
road game.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You're worried about money I'm worried about little Stevie who
gets to go to a game and guess what, he
doesn't get to see his favorite player because he's tired.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's buyer beware, but that's can You can't always consider
the fans in the product.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Player, Shane not in this because you're trying to take
this time.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You can afford the ticket.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You're trying to take your kids to a game, like
when Golden State would do this against anybody.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You're trying to take your kids.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You're traveling from other countries, and you've got players sitting
why because they're tired. Because Adam Silver does too many
back to backs.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't feel bad for someone spending their own money
to watch a game. You can feel bad if you
want to. That doesn't mean that a player should be
punished because someone felt bad. You can't be someone who's
so who's so like against hurting someone's feelings, and all
of a sudden, their feelings.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Are hurt and they don't want to play.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I'm talking about the fan, not the player.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But here's my thing, because I remember that happened here
in San Antonio a while back, where the Warriors were
on a back to back and curated in play, and
these fans posted it all over social media. And when
Spurs stepped up and helped out, right, because those kids
weren't there to see the Spurs players back though it
was like three years ago right where you had just
you just didn't have the guys the star power, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
He look, there's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
But if you want to be the face of the NBA,
like Wimby, I'm not worried about this rule. As a
Spurs fan, he's going to want to play sixty five
to eighty two games. What about Harrison Barnes, who's mediocre
to everybody in the league. But this man goes out,
all out, and he goes iron man. Chris Paul did
the same thing last year. And what do we get
(10:25):
for them as an award? Oh, here's a plaque, here's
your jersey.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
This rule was put in place.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Julian Champinney. Are we gonna give him an award? He's
played eighty one games, he's gonna play tonight?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Does he get an award? And isn't I talking about Luca?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
This rule was putting.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
These last contract putt in place to punish teams, to
prevent them because tanking has been such an issue.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
What's happening eighty one games out to be eighty two.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Now, what's happening is players that are playing out of
their minds. Kate cunninghim, by the way, mistime because of
a collapse lung. He's not gonna qualify for a collapse lung.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
By the way, what were his other games that he missed? Shane,
it's sixty five games out of eighty two. What are
his other games that he missed?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You're making seem like seventeen menut of sixty five in
a lot. That's all.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
That's that's It's not a lot of games twenty percent
of the season.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We're talking about injuries. Injuries happen. I think numbers are
faced in anything. Look it's the time I do insurance. Look,
you run the numbers. I'm sure the number was set
at sixty five because that gives you, Hey, if you
have a significant injury of two weeks.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Maybe because Kate Cunningham was.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Out what two weeks a little longer than okay, and
so that's how long he's been.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That was his key injury. What are the other games
that he's missing.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't know that he's had other injuries too. He's
had like a hip issue, and.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's almost like, and we'll close this segment out on
this because I know we're running a little over. It's
your job, right, I get ten sick days at work,
ten six days, ten legitimate six days from a business
that says I will pay you now if you qualified
for a law urn sickness, I'll pay you after that,
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but at minimum, I'm giving you ten days off, ten
days free. And all of us do this because they
do it in the NBA. Two folks, you go, I'll
use my sick time, and that's what they're doing in
the NBA. And the NBA just happens to say, okay,
you can do that, but you need to at least
perform because we pay you the sixty five game minute.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Your job though that's ten that's their job.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
That's ten sick days and a three out sixty five
day count. We're talking about eighty two games and a
smaller condensed counter. Then if that's the case, then than
the same days need to transfer over. We need to
get the bigger gap and eas more than it can't
be seventeen games seventeen games, especially if if the NBA
hasn't played this many back to backs and this many
road games as they do, which is which isn't even split.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To backs. Stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
They're not flying chartered flights. I'm sorry, I'm just not
into it, Shane, Like I'm not. Look if I'm making
multi million dollar contracts and I've got to go back
to beat, I'm doing to back, Shane.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I drive across town every freaking week. I'm here. I
didn't miss sixty five games this year.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I missed two. I've been here for eighty. Dan Weiss
has been here for eighty two. He should get a bonus.
So should Carl. That's what I'm saying. These guys that
bust their butt. Look, Devin Vessel, he's been hurt, right,
legitimately hurt. He's already had sixty six games going into
maybe sixty seven. Aaron Fox seventy one, Champagne eighty one,
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Harrison Barnes seventy six, first time that he's been in
the seventies, and how many years, Keldon Johnson eighty one,
Dylan Harper sixty eight, Luke Cornett sixty eight, Carter Bryant
seventy ward. Those guys, That's all I'm gonna say. Anyways,
coming up next, we'll talk about what do you want
to talk about. It's gotta keep it short because I
got a lot to get to in the last segment.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I think we need I think what we need to
do is playoff scenarios because there are about three different
ways that the four or five matchup could set up
in the Western Conference.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Let it.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Let's play off of the playoff scenarios right in here
on the Fanatics on ticket seven sixty