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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't you dare touch the dial or change the channel
because you are listening to ihearst WRKO the hard truth.
I'm John Deaton. Good evening, everyone, Listen. We're still in
the middle of a government shutdown and nothing has changed,
and both sides are saying they're not gonna budge. So
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we are playing the ultimate case of chicken as it
relates to the United States government, our economy, and everything
that's at play. And you have politicians pointing the finger
at each other in Washington. Career politicians like Ed Markey
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out there calling it every day a Republican shutdown, a
Republican shutdown. It's not true, and you know that I
will call it like it is when the Republicans are
at fought. I have no problem saying it. I have
no problem disagreeing with my own party when I believe
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it's the right thing to do. But the Democrats like
Chuck Schumer literally voted for a continuing resolution for thirteen
times in a row, where all they do is say,
we're not going to add anything for one side or
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the other. We're just going to continue the status quo
of government spending. That has been the way they've been
spending it for years. This was a clean resolution, meaning
that there was nothing added to it. It's just, hey,
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we need to continue to fund the government, to continue
to pay our Armed forces members, to continue to pay
for the irs, to continue to pay for any federal
government employee. Now, members of Congress, guess what they get paid.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
They get paid. They always are exempt.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
From you and I. They get special treatment because they're
in the Congress. That's why I call it self service.
It's no longer public service. It's self service. People like
Ed Markey for fifty years, since nineteen seventy six, collecting
that government paycheck. And when air traffic controllers don't get paid.
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Ed Markey and the Republicans and Democrats, they all get paid.
If you're a US congress person, if you're a Nited
States senator, you still get to make your mortgage payment,
you still get to get your direct deposit. But no,
not if you're a United States Marine. Not if you're
in the Air Force. You don't get paid. Now, President
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Trump reallocated money to pay members of the armed forces.
Will see how much time that that buys people. But listen,
this is a real problem, and the question is who's
going to blink first. And the more it hurts the economy,
and it will hurt the economy, it's going to start
costing the government like fifteen billion dollars a day. When
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I say the government, I mean in the United States
an economic activity about fifteen billion dollars a day. And
people are going to feel it. And at some point
we're going to see if, in fact, five more Democratic
senators can come to the table and say, listen, will
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vote to continue to open the government and pay people
while we negotiate health care issues, and listen, we got
to deal with healthcare in this country.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
People are getting their premiums are increasing by like one
hundred fifty crazy numbers. But you got to remember something
that these tax credits for the Obamacare were implemented by
the Democrats when they were in power, and they were
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set to expire, right, They were set to expire at
the end of this year. They all ways knew this.
So if they were going to retain power, if President
Biden or Kamala Harris would have been elected president and
there would have been a House and a Senate that
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were Democratic control, then they probably would have extended it.
But there was a different result in the election, and
therefore the Republicans are letting it expire. Now, like I
said last week, you know, Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act,
has never been affordable.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Government solutions are not the solutions.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But let me tell you something, man, when you give
twenty million Americans health insurance, they're going to get used
to it, and then if you just yank get away,
it's going to be a problem. So Republicans have got
to get their act together and come up with an
alternative plan instead of just saying Obamacare sucks. You got
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to come up with a solution. Because healthcare is bankrupting
our country. People are literally choosing between medication and food
and it doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.
We have three PBMs public pharmacy benefit managers that control
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ninety percent of the drugs in this country. We have
Medicare is not allowed to negotiate on all the different drugs.
We have zero transparency. We don't know what drugs cost
because we don't require the big pharmer companies to their pricing.
Think about that, man. Every time we want to go
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buy a new microwave, we get on the internet and
we could shop. We shop different prices. We go to
best Buy or Target or Walmart or other places compare
the prices. But you can't do that for insulin. You
can't do that for you blood thin er medicine or
diabetes pills or anything else.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And so that's an absurd position. But we have.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Career politicians who have been bought. They have been they've
sold out the American public so that they can stay
in office. And so we've got to do something about it.
And it doesn't take rocket science. It just takes the effort.
And unfortunately we don't get effort. But make no mistake
about it, the Democrats are the one who shut down
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the government. They did not like the results of the election.
They did not like the results of some of the
policy decisions being made by the Trump administration, and they
decided to shut down the government. Anybody who tells you
otherwise is lying, full stop.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Their lying. That's the reality. Now, something else that's.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Just took place very recently was this No King's Rally.
And I want to talk about that for a minute.
And I posted on x about this very topic, and
I got to tell you, I'm a little be fuddled
at why they call it No kings.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Now, I know that they they're saying that President Trump,
you know, hopes to be a king.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
He wants to be a king.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And they say that he has autocratic tendencies, right, he
likes when a dictator has control of everything.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Okay, let's say that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All right, now, I'm not saying it is, but let's
just say, for the sake of argument, that that's true.
We don't have a king system. You want to know
how we can prove one percent that they're no King's
theme is kind of silly because we're in the middle
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of a government shut down. If there was a king
in America in control, there'd be no government shut down.
But the minority party here in America, that's in the minority,
they don't have the Senate, the House, or the presidency
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has the power to shut the government down. That is
the opposite of a king. Okay, So when Ed Markey
gets out there and Seth Motens out there and Elizabeth
Warren and Bernie Sanders and AOC and everybody's out there,
that's what they're they're saying, no kings, no kings, no
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kings in the middle of a government shut down, which
proves that the minority.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Power party actually has power.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Now I want to play something that I think is
just just silly.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Okay, now let me pull it up. This is Corey
Booker and Adam Shift Senators. This is what democracy looks like.
This is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
This is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
This is what democracy looks.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So that was two United States senators, Corey Booker from
New Jersey and Adam Shift from California, and they're out
there in No King's rally parade saying this is what
democracy looks like. And it's the people protesting Donald Trump.
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And that's fair. I'm not taking an issue with that.
People should be allowed to protest. That's what makes America
great because we don't have a king.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We don't have a.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Dictator who will shoot the people in the streets if
they rise up. But you want to know what democracy
actually looks like, you just have to go back to
November fourth of twenty twenty four Donald Trump. And you
guys know that, Like I wasn't a big Trump supporter.
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I'm just calling it like it is.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Donald Trump not only won the electoral College, he won
the popular vote. Now they can say it's so close
it was only you know, by a million or two
millionaire people. The bottom line is the majority of Americans
chose Donald Trump and the electoral college, and not just that,
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but he won all seven swing states. That's democracy. That's
what democracy really looks like, not just a bunch of
people pro testing on the street.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We had the.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Most democratic exercise you could have, an election, and the
people spoke and they just don't like the result. And
so they don't like the result, they can protest it,
they don't like the policies, they can shut down the government.
But then claiming that we're actually living under a king
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is it's just stupid, right, It's not only not true,
it's just flat out stupid. Like pick a different theme, man,
other than no kings. And so it's, you know, good
for people protesting, but that's silly. When we get back,
we'll continue and see what a real autocracy looks like.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All right, welcome back to the show. You listen to
the hard truth.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
This is John Deton and sometimes I like to call
this segment ordinary people doing extraordinary things. And my next
guest is one of those people. In my opinion, I
believe independent journalism was born out of necessity we're gonna
get John Gately. If you listen to a show, and
I know many of you do, you can call him
Jack Jack Welcome to the show. Thanks, no, it's good
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to see you. So let's first, uh, where can everybody
reach you? First and foremost on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Jackkateley dot com and that's what has all my links
at Jackkateley dot com.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
And uh, then over at John F.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Gateley dot com.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Where I write or on acts at John F.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Daily and in your own words, we're gonna get some
background information in a second. But what do you what
are you doing? What service do you think you're providing
to the world. I think it's an incredible service, but
let's hear it from your own words.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Really, I'm just I'm just a real estate broker that
uh learned out a live stream effectively, right, you know,
and I'm super concerned about the future.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Of my state.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Come from a very long line of native Bostonians, and
we go back in Boston, you know, looking at the
graveyard for about one hundred and seventy five years, and
right now there are only three people that are Gateleies
in my string of Gateles that are young people still
living in Massachusetts. All the other Gatelies have fled to
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New Hampshire, Maine, even upstate New York, Florida. And there's
only three young Gateles in my string of Gatelea's here
in Massachusetts nineteen.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Twenty one and twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I would like them to have the opportunity to
live in Massachusetts as we have for generations. But if
they choose to go elsewhere, that's fine. But I but
I don't want it to be because they had no choice.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
No, that's a great point.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
If you could send some in a nutshell, because I
think that you have your pulse on a lot of
how people are feeling in the Commonwealth. What would you
attribute other than just saying one party rule.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We know that's the root of it, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But specifically, why are young people choosing to leave Massachusetts?
And why are you even retirees saying I've had enough
in leaving.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, well, actually they're recruiting some retirees because the benefits
from the government are so good that they actually locating here.
So that's a kind of a dirty seat. They're locating
here because the retirees are getting benefits. But so many
people are leaving, especially young people, little class people. It's
because the government is getting so big. There's only so
much economic activity. And when the you know, it's basic
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economics one on one. When the government grows, the private
sector strengths, and the private sector is what adds value.
And I'm sure the government can do things to help,
like build highways and other things like that. But eventually,
when the government gets so big, it's crowds out value.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
And we've seen our private sector growth in jobs. The
job market here for private.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Sector just decimated during the Healy administration, and government growth continues.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I believe Massachusetts is dead last in private sector
of growth as far as jobs, fiftieth out of fifty states.
All right, you talked about your family's history Massachusetts. You
called yourself a real estate broker who learned how to
live stream. So just give us a little bit of
background of Jack Gately, and then I want to talk
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into why you started, because listen, I've been paying attention
to your channel. I'm seeing mainstream media ask you for
your content. I've seen articles written literally on the heels
of things that you've said and stories that you've broken.
Then all of a sudden, you'll see it more in
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the mainstream media, So a little bit of background, and
then why you chose to do this.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I think that one of these things that kind of
helps doing what I'm doing is I was the decades ago,
because I'm really old John, but decades ago, I was
the editor of my college, US Favor, and so that
kind of helps with the kind of a news sense.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And I did work at the state House back and
then thirty years ago. Next year will be thirty years
that I left the state House.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So I did work in government and politics for a
long time, from like nineteen eighty eight I started real
young to about two thousand and then I quit politics
all together for about a decade. And then when Twitter
came Twitter one point zero, it became a hobby and
a way to kind of express my feelings again. But
like for almost a whole decade it didn't do any
politics at all. And now it's kind.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Of like dialed up as a hobby. But right now
it just.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Basically just a hobby. It's not really a business. And
I almost on most days I have a live stream
at eight.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Am on Depps.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You can join me there at John F Gate leon
X for my live stream. I think one of the
things that kind of put me on that in the
last year or two was the fact that their governor
said that there was no more illegal aliens living at
Logan Airport. The media bought that story and said that
she cleaned them all out, and I just knew that
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that wasn't true because I got a number of.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Ticks so on open there and I made a video
and that just like exposed the lie. And since then
we've just been on a roll since then.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Let me ask you a question about the mainstream media,
because this is something that I've honestly struggled to try
to figure out and listen. I ran for offices, you know,
contemplating it again. But I just watched, for example, you
just gave one example the illegals that are camped in
Logan Airport. The media bought it when all you had
to do was go visit. And then the other day
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I watched Mara Heally literally say I didn't prevent too
natural gas pipelines from coming in when she's on video
as Attorney General bragging about it. But I was shocked
because I didn't hear any follow up. I didn't hear
one reporter say, wait a minute, Governor that can't be true.
How do you reconcile what you said as attorney general
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with what you're saying now? Is it because you're an
election year and you're I just sat there my jaw dropped, Like,
how does not one reporter ask something so basic and
you have your heart on it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I can't figure it out? So maybe you can.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Where's the This might be a dated reference, but where's
the Sam Donaldson of the State House Press Corps?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Right? You know, bobbing questions from.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
The back row that are full of truth?
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Right? Where is that guy? And the Globe?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
The Globe had to answer this question because there's like,
which time.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Was she lying to us?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean, it came up with a really sly way
of deciding that she lied to us the first.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Time, that she.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Was overly both full when she said she'd stopped two
pipelines that wasn't really true. The Globe said, she's telling
us the truth now she lied to us.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
The first time. Wow, where are they? I don't know,
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I know that news from a financial point of view
has been decimated, but not necessarily TV news. They just
don't seem to be very curious. They don't may be
curious people. I think we've lost a lot of our
curiousness of reporters.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
And say what you will about watergat or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But it did bring a lot of people into journalism
that were asking questions, right, you know, putting their foot
in the door and asking difficult questions and that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, do you think that they're bought and paid for?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Do you think that they're.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
All just generationally have veered to the left and they
don't want, you know, anyone with a diverse opinion or
a conservative because I just struggled that. You know, listen,
I have no doubt you here on my show. You
and I can, you know, have a friendly relationship. But
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if you're in the media and let's say I run
for office and I say something that is completely opposite
of what I said before, I have no doubt you're
gonna say, Wait a minute, John, how do you reconcile
that I just don't understand why they're and I struggle
every day to figure that question out. Are they just
bought and paid for it? Do you think that's possible?
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Do you think it's just that everyone in media today,
on the mainstream media is just leans to the left.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So much.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I think there is a lot of leading to the left.
And you look at CBS and NBC for sure, and
a lot of those stations are corporately owned here in Boston.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Then there of.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Course is the glob so there's a lot of groupthink
in that regard moving to the left. And I think
there's another factor too, and that's social pressure. The people
that are pure reporters that have really no political agenda,
if there's such a thing, they they feel a lot
of social pressure, professional pressure not to open their mouths
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because they they're swinging.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Against the tide. I think there's a you know, there's the.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Kind of the White House press pool, State House press
pool kind. There's the same type of dynamic that they
want to fit in and not not stand out unless
they see blood in the water, like some of the
reporters did with TFA at City Hall. There were several
reporters who actually went aggressively after that story. Good for them,
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and you do see some like aggressive journalism, but it
seems only when the it seems only when the cool
when the Democrat Party decides to throw someone overboard, then
they get permission to beat the snot out of somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
But other than that, forget about it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know, I thought, yeah, I thought, I thought after
and I think.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's one of the biggest scandals in modern political history
of Biden's mental health status and the fact that, you know,
it was like a conspiracy to keep this quiet. And
I thought that after that blew up the way it did,
that that would sort of inject some reality and that
these journalists would say, you know what, maybe we have gone.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Too far to the left.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But I don't see them learning from that lesson less
It's like you said, when they get permission, basically, okay,
here is now the sacrificial.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Lamb on that side.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You can go beat them up because listen, I don't
know if you read Jack Jake Tapper's book.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I haven't. I'm not going to buy it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But the fact that he was completely complicit in hiding
it and then he writes a book talking about how,
oh my god, this was a big cover up.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Do you think there'll ever be something that causes them
to just say, you know what, maybe we should just
call balls and strikes, even if they prefer a left
leaning candidate.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You know, I think part of this comes from the
Democrats party's far lurch to the left, that anything justifies
an advancement.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Of the revolution, no matter what it is, and the
hell with the truth.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I mean, anyone with two eyes could see that Biden
was not one hundred percent right. And for you to
sit there and cover that up and not even talk
about it when he can't walk across the White House
lawn and he's stumbling in an event and he doesn't
know where to go, it was sad. And and for
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the mainstream media just to say like nothing, it was
shameful and like they don't really deserve our respect anymore
as far.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
As I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
All right, welcome back to the show. We've been listening
to Jack Gateley. Tell them where they can reach you again, Jack.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Jack dot com or Jonithgateley dot com or on Twitter
or acts John F.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Gaily.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And you do a morning live stream most mornings.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You know, it's still a hobby.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So most Okay, Now we just had this were you
did you attend the No King's rally or like cover
that in any way?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I had in the past, But this past weekend I
was very happy to spend parents weekend with my daughter
in my wife, so.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Family first job, Oh, absolutely outstanding. Well, you know, I h.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I sit back and I think because I'm listening again
to the media, and it kills me that none of
them said, you know, well, technically, the fact that the
Democrats shut the government down proves that there's no king.
The fact that we just had an election in all
swing states and the popular vote and the electoral College
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were won by Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
That was democracy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And yet you see them out there basically acting as
if that this is an autocratic kind of country. And
I made a point on X where I said, listen,
Massachusetts is operating more like an autocracy than the United
States of America.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And would you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Remember too, that the people that are wrapping themselves in
the American flag, this is the same generation that burned
the American flag and the sixties and the seventies, the
same people and ultimately unfortunately, terrifically sadly wrapped up in
a lot of this is actually a disdain for America
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at the core.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Right, they want to move America to the left. And
you know, there's a big difference between socialism and communism.
And let me tell you what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It is how you spell the words, otherwise it's the
same thing. But that's what this whole push is about.
And we're going to see it next year, John two
with the two hundred and fifty, the anniversary of our God,
a gift of a country.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
They're going to wrap themselves around the whatever number it
is to buy.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Centennial plus fifty, the two fifty, as if.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They're the heroes of the American Revolution.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And I just might cute.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, you know, I think if they just stop trying
to save democracy by sacrificing democracy, you know, we might
be Okay. We've seen the coronation of Hillary Clinton attempt.
We saw the coronation of Kamala Harris where there's no
kind of electoral process. I believe that, you know, and
this is when we talked about the US Senate here.
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I believe the Democrats plan and why Marky's running again
and why Warren endorsed him immediately is because they're assuming
more heally will win. Markia get three three and a
half to four years into his term, he'll retire, and
if it's a democratic governor, they're gonna pick Michelle wou
to sit in that seat, and then she'll get to
run as an incumbent after two hundred days in a
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general election, and that always seems to be their their map.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Obviously Massachusetts politics with Ed Markey. Any thoughts right now
with Markey Molten? Do you think Presley gets in?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, I mean that's a I was waiting for you
to mention her name, you know, like, could she missed
her missed her moment? She's all about the moment and change,
can't wait and going back to your other thing. Don't
forget too that the same people that are saying no
Kings are the same people who don't want the audit
that seventy two percent of US voted for.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Let's not forget that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Will Presley get into this US Senate race, I don't know,
other than you know, I'm just gonna say yes. But
if I had a guest right now, if you're making
me guess right now, John, I'm gonna just say yes.
Only because I wanted to get into the pure entertainment.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well, there were there, we was.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
There was a poe in February that some folks that
wanted me to run, and it showed that I could
beat Marky two to three four points.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It's just one pole doesn't mean much.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But what's been reported is the Democrat did a poll
of Democratic primary voters, not general voters, but Democratic primary voters,
and they put up Trey hand Ouchin, Kloud, Smolten Presley,
all of them against Marky. I ain't a Presley was
the only one that beat him out, And so I
popped in a video of Joe Kennedy debate and.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Marky five years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I threw up in my mouth because I watched these
guys get on stage argue over who was more pro
Black Lives Matter, who was more pro reparations, citizenship for
twenty million illegals, not just amnesty, but citizenship, open borders.
Biological men compete against women, just looney left stuff, right,
And I think that if she gets in, those looney
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lefts are going to gravitate, you know, towards her. So
it'll be interesting. Let's talk about the governor's race. And
now we've got mcnoe getting in the race. He'll be
coming on the show in the near future, hopefully. I've
had short Sleeve and I've had Knelian. Any general thoughts again,
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you have your pulse, you know, I know you're active.
You were very active with the Plymouth mass goop stuff.
I think you were instrumental in making sure that the
right thing happened in that situation. But what's your general thoughts.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'm happy to see all three of them in there.
And you know, something you said earlier about not being
being a critical thinker or you know, and.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I've said positive and negative things about all three of
these guys, but let me be perfectly clear, all three
of them are like a gazillion times better than more Realy.
But having worked in campaigns, I got my first paid
political gig in nineteen eighty eight, you know, And and
of course has said as a quit politics for a
whole decade. But having worked in campaigns, I've seen a
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lot of candidates in a lot of campaigns, and I
can add you know, some I don't care like you know,
I'm just providing my two cents.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I'm just not here to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I'm here to critique and hopefully they listen. I know
they listen because I hear back.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
From them, and hopefully they can improve.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Because I think that's the benefit of a primary, is
that you go through this battle and up comes the
strongest candidate, and each one of these candidates does have
strengths in their own way.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
And some negatives.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm just if you want to listen to a cheerleader,
there's plenty of GOP.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Raw Row cheerleaders. I'm here to find that's the.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Best candidate for November twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It was February first of last year and I was
sitting there and I was thinking, should I get in
this race?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
War No one knows me.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I was not active in GOP politics in Massachusetts. I
didn't know any And you know, I'm sure you've been
depressed like me, where you go to a ballot in
Massachusetts and you'll see unopposed Democrat, unopposed Democrat, unopposed Democrat.
And the thought of Warren just not even being challenged
on stage, it bothered me.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
So I said, effort.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm gonna do it. I know I probably get my
butt kicked. And I was so new to it. All
I did was Okay, who was the last Republican in Massachusetts,
Governor Baker?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Okay, who was his team? Hire them? And nineteen days later,
I'm in the race. One thing I was naive to
I knew there was.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Division, but I didn't know it to that extent, whether
you want to call it establishment versus anti establishment, or
Mago versus Rhino, or purist versus pragmatists, whatever label people
give it. Do you believe that the Republicans can unite?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I do believe that.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
In fact, you know, we had this kerfuffle to use
a Jim Browdie word, a Republican town committee a month ago,
and about a week ago I went to a Massachusetts
GOP event and we hugged it out.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You know, why can't we be friends? Bro right?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
So I think we can get along and eventually we
can unite. But just like the Democrats with Molten and
Marquee and maybe Presley, there's going to be a bruising primary.
And so there's going to be a bruising primary with Kneely,
Minogue and Shursley, and of course the caucuses around the corner.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And you know, this is politics.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So the whole process is to see who comes out of.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
This the winner.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Because as Republicans, more than anything, we wanted to reward
merit in the best candidate. We don't want to cherry
pick somebody who's never gotten a vote in a primary
for instance.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Right, you know, let me ask you the do you
think the one thing that I would if I could
change anything in Massachusetts, To be honest with you, it
would be the date of the primary, you know, a
September third primary. I was at the Bitcoin conference where
President Trump spoke. I was with Bernie Marino. We're in
the green room. He won against Sharon Brown in Ohio,
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and he said to me, goes, John, what do you
mean you have a primary? I go, I got a
primary September third. He's like, oh my god, it gives
you two months. And that's the one thing I think
we could change. It's such an incumbent friendly system because
you got to pivot and you got nine weeks to
the day. But that's the way it is. Listen, I
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think we can unite. And I look at President Trump
as an example. I mean, look at Marco Rubio today,
you know, and how critical he was at one point.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
JD.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Vance is the city vice president of the United States.
And so I'm cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It was one thing that I underestimated. I didn't realize
to the extent, and I didn't realize that the internal
politics were that had gone on in Massachusetts. And anyways,
what stories are you you're thinking of covering, what's the.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If you could sum up what.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You think is moving forward, the most important thing that
you'd want to cover, what would.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
It be In the big picture.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I think we have two very big picture stories. One
is the massive shift that the Hilly administration is pushing
from offshore wind now to solar, and that is going
to drive up your utility bills like you've never seen before.
These zero mandates have just now begun to hit.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You think you're.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Upset about your electric suitability, now this is literally just
the tip of the iceberg and that's it. There's way
more to come, and they're pushing solar. So that's a big,
long term story. And the second issue is very, very big,
is this push to raise taxes in Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
If not at the state.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Level, certainly at all your municipal levels. There's going to
be a giant push to raise taxes because the last
thing they want to do is rate in the size
of government. They believe that government should be all things
to all people, and every year get bigger and bigger
and bigger and bigger, and at a grow at a
rate far far exceeding the private sector, and eventually what
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you have is what Margaret Thatcher says.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
All right, hopefully you'll be there on the tenth and
you'll get an invite.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Thank you man my calendar.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Thanks John, Thank you a great day.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
You too, brother. Bye.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
All right, welcome back everybody. You're listening to the Hard Truth.
I'm John Deaton. Remember you can reach me on the
show at John at Hard Truthshow dot com. John at
Hard Truthshow dot com. We were talking about the No
Kings Rally and this theory that the United States is
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under the control of a king.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Or an autocrat.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Now, autocracy if you look what it means, it's basically
when one person has complete control. I think you can
call an autocracy. Sometimes also when a few people have control.
Technically they call those oligarchies and oligarchs, and you hear
Bernie Sanders talk a.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Lot about that.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
But as far as who's in power an autocrat, we
can't say Donald Trump is an autocrat because we're in
a government shut down. The King's Route No King's Rally happened, right,
No one got jailed for protesting, no one got hurt
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for protesting, So clearly we don't live under that kind
of system. But I posted something on X and it
was let's have a compare garrison between America and Massachusetts,
and that comparison is what I call an autocratic comparison.
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Let's figure out which one is operating more like an autocracy?
Is it Massachusetts or is it America? And I would
submit to you all out there listening that Massachusetts is
currently operating much more like an autocracy than the United States.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Is.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
The parades and the no King's rallies just happened. The
government shut down just happened, proving that the minority power
minority party has substantial power in this government.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
The power that's so.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Significant it can literally shut down the government by saying
I don't like your policies in the big beautiful Bill.
I disagree with them, so I'm just not going to
play anymore. Even though the vote the American people voted
for you, even though you won off swing states, and
even though you have a complete control of the Senate
and the House and the ability to fulfill your policies,
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we just don't agree with them, and we don't agree
with the majority of the American people who elected you.
We're going to shut down the government. Okay, that's clearly
not an autocracy. But here in Massachusetts, we are operating
like an autocracy if you just talk about a few
people in power. We have a one party rule. For example,
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seventy two percent of the voters in Massachusetts made it
the law, made it the law that the state auditor
could audit the state legislature. Before that ballot got on
the ballot, that ballot question measure got on the ballot
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for you, you and I to vote for it, it
had to be approved by the Attorney General of Massachusetts,
Andrea Campbell. Well, Andrea Campbell in her office reviewed the
ballot question, the audit question, and approved it. What that
means is that the attorney General said, this is a
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constitutional measure and it's for the people to decide, and
then we voted and overwhelmingly think about that. In this
divided world that we live in, it's hard to get
sixty percent right. It's hard to get fifty five percent
of people to agree. We're split like fifty one forty nine.
Most of the time, well seventy three percent basically said
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we want this to be the law. We want to
see where our tax dollars, how they're being spent, where
they're being spent how are contracts being awarded? Is it
a bidding process or are politicians rewarding their donors? Are
politicians filling the pockets of their friends, or is it
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truly a good system, a merit based system of competition.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
So the voters said this is the law and overwhelmingly
made it the law.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Two people, Karen Spilker, who's President of the Senate in
the state legislature, Ron Mariano, who Speaker of the House,
and the state Legislature. So now we're not going to comply.
Diana Disaglia, the state audit says, Hey, the people have spoken,
it's the law.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I'm going to do this audit. Now, we don't think
so that's what they said. We don't think so. We
think it's unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
They just throw that out there, even though the Attorney
Generate already decided it was proper. That is autocracy, man,
that is totalitarianism, dictatorship.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
The people have made this the law.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
But we're not gonna comply, and there's nothing you could
do about it. We're laughing in your face. We're giving
you the middle finger.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Now, guess what.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
The Attorney General, Andrea Campbell, who previously blessed that ballot measure,
won't help Diana Dezaglia hold the legislature to the law.
They're breaking the law every day, and she's the attorney general,
and she won't lift a finger to help Diana Dosaglia. Why, well,
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she's doing TikTok videos but dancing in her office about
how many lawsuits she went against Donald Trump. She sued
Donald Trump twenty four times, and she's gonna keep suing
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
In the meantime, in the state of which she.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Serves, she won't lift a finger to make these state
legislatures comply with the law. Now that's Andrea Campbell. Well,
let's look at Governor Healey. Governor Healey claims that she
voted for it. She claimed that it was a good idea.
Of course, of course we should order the legislature. She
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won't help Diana Desaglia. All they'll talk about.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Is Trump, Trump, Trump Trump.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
But in their own backyard, the voters, the taxpayers are
getting a middle finger by the legislature saying now we're
not going to comply with the law, and nobody will
do anything about it. Ladies and gentlemen, that's more like
an autocracy. Governor Healey has been the least transparent governor
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in America. She won't even tell you the money she
spent on the migrant crisis, billions of dollars. She declared
an emergency, and under emergency she gets to just do
whatever she wants. No big contracts. Here's a contract to
this company for millions. Here's a contract to this cleaning
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company for millions, cab company for millions, a caterer for millions.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
And we don't know what the money's going to. She
doesn't have to tell us.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
That's someone who believes they're acting above the law. In
the meantime, nationally, President Trump said he's going to send
some troops somewhere. Guess what they assume in the Federal
court says no. President Trump holds off. That's complying with
the law. Appellate court says no, you can send troops.
Then he sends troops. That's someone who's complying with the law.
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We've got people in Massachusetts who will not comply with
the law. So I submit to you which one is
more of an autocracy? Is it Massachusetts or is it
the United States? Under Donald Trump? And these politicians man,
they've got to decide one question that they need to answer.
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And this is meant for Ed Markey and Seth Molten.
I ain't a Presley, all of the congress people and
Senators Elizabeth Warren, all of them. Do you love America
in Massachusetts more than you hate Donald Trump? Because I
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honestly believe that they hate Donald Trump more than they
love America. I think they have an indictment for America.
I think they have contempt for America. I think they
don't like America. I really believe that many of you
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know that I wasn't a Trump guy, but he's the
President of uned states Man. And all you have to
ask yourself if you represent Massachusetts, is you just got
I have one test, and that one test is is
this policy, whatever it is, is it good for America
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and Massachusetts. If it is, then you support it. If
it isn't, then you don't support it. And who's the president?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Really?
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Really, honestly, it shouldn't matter that much because there's I
can't imagine any president that I'm going to agree with
one hundred percent of the time. I honestly can't fathom
that there's going to be some kind of disagreement. But
I can agree that the border needs to be secured.
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I can agree with that. I agree with it one
hundred percent. I can get on stage and say, you know,
I didn't support President Trump last election, but I got
to say illegal crossings at the southern border that are
down ninety five percent, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
It's not only really good for America, but it's really
really good for Massachusetts because, let's face it, with the
right to shelter law and it not requiring residency, if
these illegals show up here, we have a governor who's
just putting them up in hotels and giving them food
and giving them food stamps and giving them cash and
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catering the food and giving them free uber rides and
free healthcare and all of those things.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
And it is bankrupting us as a state.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
So you could say that when President Trump and the
administration wants to get rid of a rapist, an illegal
who crossed the border illegally and molested a child, yeah,
I want them off the street, man, Get him out
of here, get them out of our country. I don't
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even want to pay for him to get three square
meals a day in prison. Send him to Venezuela, send
him to wherever a Salvador or wherever gang he's from.
If he's from a gang, I can say that, And
I can say if I was in office, I'll help
you President Trump and Ice, I'll help you get rid
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of that bad guy. But at the same time, if
they do things like snatching a grad student from Tufts
who wrote an op ed that was pro Palestine, I.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Can say, I disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
That's what kind of leadership we need. I'll see you
next week.
Don't you dare touch the dial or change the channel
because you are listening to ihearst WRKO the hard truth.
I'm John Deaton. Good evening, everyone, Listen. We're still in
the middle of a government shutdown and nothing has changed,
and both sides are saying they're not gonna budge. So
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we are playing the ultimate case of chicken as it
relates to the United States government, our economy, and everything
that's at play. And you have politicians pointing the finger
at each other in Washington. Career politicians like Ed Markey
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out there calling it every day a Republican shutdown, a
Republican shutdown. It's not true, and you know that I
will call it like it is when the Republicans are
at fought. I have no problem saying it. I have
no problem disagreeing with my own party when I believe
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it's the right thing to do. But the Democrats like
Chuck Schumer literally voted for a continuing resolution for thirteen
times in a row, where all they do is say,
we're not going to add anything for one side or
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the other. We're just going to continue the status quo
of government spending. That has been the way they've been
spending it for years. This was a clean resolution, meaning
that there was nothing added to it. It's just, hey,
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we need to continue to fund the government, to continue
to pay our Armed forces members, to continue to pay
for the irs, to continue to pay for any federal
government employee. Now, members of Congress, guess what they get paid.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
They get paid. They always are exempt.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
From you and I. They get special treatment because they're
in the Congress. That's why I call it self service.
It's no longer public service. It's self service. People like
Ed Markey for fifty years, since nineteen seventy six, collecting
that government paycheck. And when air traffic controllers don't get paid.
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Ed Markey and the Republicans and Democrats, they all get paid.
If you're a US congress person, if you're a Nited
States senator, you still get to make your mortgage payment,
you still get to get your direct deposit. But no,
not if you're a United States Marine. Not if you're
in the Air Force. You don't get paid. Now, President
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Trump reallocated money to pay members of the armed forces.
Will see how much time that that buys people. But listen,
this is a real problem, and the question is who's
going to blink first. And the more it hurts the economy,
and it will hurt the economy, it's going to start
costing the government like fifteen billion dollars a day. When
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I say the government, I mean in the United States
an economic activity about fifteen billion dollars a day. And
people are going to feel it. And at some point
we're going to see if, in fact, five more Democratic
senators can come to the table and say, listen, will
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vote to continue to open the government and pay people
while we negotiate health care issues, and listen, we got
to deal with healthcare in this country.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
People are getting their premiums are increasing by like one
hundred fifty crazy numbers. But you got to remember something
that these tax credits for the Obamacare were implemented by
the Democrats when they were in power, and they were
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set to expire, right, They were set to expire at
the end of this year. They all ways knew this.
So if they were going to retain power, if President
Biden or Kamala Harris would have been elected president and
there would have been a House and a Senate that
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were Democratic control, then they probably would have extended it.
But there was a different result in the election, and
therefore the Republicans are letting it expire. Now, like I
said last week, you know, Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act,
has never been affordable.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Government solutions are not the solutions.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
But let me tell you something, man, when you give
twenty million Americans health insurance, they're going to get used
to it, and then if you just yank get away,
it's going to be a problem. So Republicans have got
to get their act together and come up with an
alternative plan instead of just saying Obamacare sucks. You got
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to come up with a solution. Because healthcare is bankrupting
our country. People are literally choosing between medication and food
and it doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.
We have three PBMs public pharmacy benefit managers that control
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ninety percent of the drugs in this country. We have
Medicare is not allowed to negotiate on all the different drugs.
We have zero transparency. We don't know what drugs cost
because we don't require the big pharmer companies to their pricing.
Think about that, man. Every time we want to go
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buy a new microwave, we get on the internet and
we could shop. We shop different prices. We go to
best Buy or Target or Walmart or other places compare
the prices. But you can't do that for insulin. You
can't do that for you blood thin er medicine or
diabetes pills or anything else.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And so that's an absurd position. But we have.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Career politicians who have been bought. They have been they've
sold out the American public so that they can stay
in office. And so we've got to do something about it.
And it doesn't take rocket science. It just takes the effort.
And unfortunately we don't get effort. But make no mistake
about it, the Democrats are the one who shut down
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the government. They did not like the results of the election.
They did not like the results of some of the
policy decisions being made by the Trump administration, and they
decided to shut down the government. Anybody who tells you
otherwise is lying, full stop.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Their lying. That's the reality. Now, something else that's.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Just took place very recently was this No King's Rally.
And I want to talk about that for a minute.
And I posted on x about this very topic, and
I got to tell you, I'm a little be fuddled
at why they call it No kings.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Now, I know that they they're saying that President Trump,
you know, hopes to be a king.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
He wants to be a king.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And they say that he has autocratic tendencies, right, he
likes when a dictator has control of everything.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Okay, let's say that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
All right, now, I'm not saying it is, but let's
just say, for the sake of argument, that that's true.
We don't have a king system. You want to know
how we can prove one percent that they're no King's
theme is kind of silly because we're in the middle
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of a government shut down. If there was a king
in America in control, there'd be no government shut down.
But the minority party here in America, that's in the minority,
they don't have the Senate, the House, or the presidency
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has the power to shut the government down. That is
the opposite of a king. Okay, So when Ed Markey
gets out there and Seth Motens out there and Elizabeth
Warren and Bernie Sanders and AOC and everybody's out there,
that's what they're they're saying, no kings, no kings, no
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kings in the middle of a government shut down, which
proves that the minority.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Power party actually has power.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Now I want to play something that I think is
just just silly.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Okay, now let me pull it up. This is Corey
Booker and Adam Shift Senators. This is what democracy looks like.
This is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
This is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
This is what democracy looks.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So that was two United States senators, Corey Booker from
New Jersey and Adam Shift from California, and they're out
there in No King's rally parade saying this is what
democracy looks like. And it's the people protesting Donald Trump.
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And that's fair. I'm not taking an issue with that.
People should be allowed to protest. That's what makes America
great because we don't have a king.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We don't have a.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Dictator who will shoot the people in the streets if
they rise up. But you want to know what democracy
actually looks like, you just have to go back to
November fourth of twenty twenty four Donald Trump. And you
guys know that, Like I wasn't a big Trump supporter.
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I'm just calling it like it is.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Donald Trump not only won the electoral College, he won
the popular vote. Now they can say it's so close
it was only you know, by a million or two
millionaire people. The bottom line is the majority of Americans
chose Donald Trump and the electoral college, and not just that,
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but he won all seven swing states. That's democracy. That's
what democracy really looks like, not just a bunch of
people pro testing on the street.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We had the.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Most democratic exercise you could have, an election, and the
people spoke and they just don't like the result. And
so they don't like the result, they can protest it,
they don't like the policies, they can shut down the government.
But then claiming that we're actually living under a king
(11:27):
is it's just stupid, right, It's not only not true,
it's just flat out stupid. Like pick a different theme, man,
other than no kings. And so it's, you know, good
for people protesting, but that's silly. When we get back,
we'll continue and see what a real autocracy looks like.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All right, welcome back to the show. You listen to
the hard truth.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
This is John Deton and sometimes I like to call
this segment ordinary people doing extraordinary things. And my next
guest is one of those people. In my opinion, I
believe independent journalism was born out of necessity we're gonna
get John Gately. If you listen to a show, and
I know many of you do, you can call him
Jack Jack Welcome to the show. Thanks, no, it's good
(12:14):
to see you. So let's first, uh, where can everybody
reach you? First and foremost on social media.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Jackkateley dot com and that's what has all my links
at Jackkateley dot com.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
And uh, then over at John F.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Gateley dot com.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Where I write or on acts at John F.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Daily and in your own words, we're gonna get some
background information in a second. But what do you what
are you doing? What service do you think you're providing
to the world. I think it's an incredible service, but
let's hear it from your own words.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Really, I'm just I'm just a real estate broker that
uh learned out a live stream effectively, right, you know,
and I'm super concerned about the future.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Of my state.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Come from a very long line of native Bostonians, and
we go back in Boston, you know, looking at the
graveyard for about one hundred and seventy five years, and
right now there are only three people that are Gateleies
in my string of Gateles that are young people still
living in Massachusetts. All the other Gatelies have fled to
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New Hampshire, Maine, even upstate New York, Florida. And there's
only three young Gateles in my string of Gatelea's here
in Massachusetts nineteen.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Twenty one and twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And I would like them to have the opportunity to
live in Massachusetts as we have for generations. But if
they choose to go elsewhere, that's fine. But I but
I don't want it to be because they had no choice.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
No, that's a great point.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
If you could send some in a nutshell, because I
think that you have your pulse on a lot of
how people are feeling in the Commonwealth. What would you
attribute other than just saying one party rule.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
We know that's the root of it, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
But specifically, why are young people choosing to leave Massachusetts?
And why are you even retirees saying I've had enough
in leaving.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, well, actually they're recruiting some retirees because the benefits
from the government are so good that they actually locating here.
So that's a kind of a dirty seat. They're locating
here because the retirees are getting benefits. But so many
people are leaving, especially young people, little class people. It's
because the government is getting so big. There's only so
much economic activity. And when the you know, it's basic
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economics one on one. When the government grows, the private
sector strengths, and the private sector is what adds value.
And I'm sure the government can do things to help,
like build highways and other things like that. But eventually,
when the government gets so big, it's crowds out value.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
And we've seen our private sector growth in jobs. The
job market here for private.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Sector just decimated during the Healy administration, and government growth continues.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I believe Massachusetts is dead last in private sector
of growth as far as jobs, fiftieth out of fifty states.
All right, you talked about your family's history Massachusetts. You
called yourself a real estate broker who learned how to
live stream. So just give us a little bit of
background of Jack Gately, and then I want to talk
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into why you started, because listen, I've been paying attention
to your channel. I'm seeing mainstream media ask you for
your content. I've seen articles written literally on the heels
of things that you've said and stories that you've broken.
Then all of a sudden, you'll see it more in
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the mainstream media, So a little bit of background, and
then why you chose to do this.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I think that one of these things that kind of
helps doing what I'm doing is I was the decades ago,
because I'm really old John, but decades ago, I was
the editor of my college, US Favor, and so that
kind of helps with the kind of a news sense.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And I did work at the state House back and
then thirty years ago. Next year will be thirty years
that I left the state House.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
So I did work in government and politics for a
long time, from like nineteen eighty eight I started real
young to about two thousand and then I quit politics
all together for about a decade. And then when Twitter
came Twitter one point zero, it became a hobby and
a way to kind of express my feelings again. But
like for almost a whole decade it didn't do any
politics at all. And now it's kind.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Of like dialed up as a hobby. But right now
it just.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Basically just a hobby. It's not really a business. And
I almost on most days I have a live stream
at eight.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Am on Depps.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You can join me there at John F Gate leon
X for my live stream. I think one of the
things that kind of put me on that in the
last year or two was the fact that their governor
said that there was no more illegal aliens living at
Logan Airport. The media bought that story and said that
she cleaned them all out, and I just knew that
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that wasn't true because I got a number of.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Ticks so on open there and I made a video
and that just like exposed the lie. And since then
we've just been on a roll since then.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Let me ask you a question about the mainstream media,
because this is something that I've honestly struggled to try
to figure out and listen. I ran for offices, you know,
contemplating it again. But I just watched, for example, you
just gave one example the illegals that are camped in
Logan Airport. The media bought it when all you had
to do was go visit. And then the other day
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I watched Mara Heally literally say I didn't prevent too
natural gas pipelines from coming in when she's on video
as Attorney General bragging about it. But I was shocked
because I didn't hear any follow up. I didn't hear
one reporter say, wait a minute, Governor that can't be true.
How do you reconcile what you said as attorney general
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with what you're saying now? Is it because you're an
election year and you're I just sat there my jaw dropped, Like,
how does not one reporter ask something so basic and
you have your heart on it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I can't figure it out? So maybe you can.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Where's the This might be a dated reference, but where's
the Sam Donaldson of the State House Press Corps?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Right? You know, bobbing questions from.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
The back row that are full of truth?
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Right? Where is that guy? And the Globe?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
The Globe had to answer this question because there's like,
which time.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Was she lying to us?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean, it came up with a really sly way
of deciding that she lied to us the first.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Time, that she.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Was overly both full when she said she'd stopped two
pipelines that wasn't really true. The Globe said, she's telling
us the truth now she lied to us.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
The first time. Wow, where are they? I don't know,
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I know that news from a financial point of view
has been decimated, but not necessarily TV news. They just
don't seem to be very curious. They don't may be
curious people. I think we've lost a lot of our
curiousness of reporters.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
And say what you will about watergat or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
But it did bring a lot of people into journalism
that were asking questions, right, you know, putting their foot
in the door and asking difficult questions and that.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, do you think that they're bought and paid for?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Do you think that they're.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
All just generationally have veered to the left and they
don't want, you know, anyone with a diverse opinion or
a conservative because I just struggled that. You know, listen,
I have no doubt you here on my show. You
and I can, you know, have a friendly relationship. But
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if you're in the media and let's say I run
for office and I say something that is completely opposite
of what I said before, I have no doubt you're
gonna say, Wait a minute, John, how do you reconcile
that I just don't understand why they're and I struggle
every day to figure that question out. Are they just
bought and paid for it? Do you think that's possible?
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Do you think it's just that everyone in media today,
on the mainstream media is just leans to the left.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So much.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I think there is a lot of leading to the left.
And you look at CBS and NBC for sure, and
a lot of those stations are corporately owned here in Boston.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Then there of.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Course is the glob so there's a lot of groupthink
in that regard moving to the left. And I think
there's another factor too, and that's social pressure. The people
that are pure reporters that have really no political agenda,
if there's such a thing, they they feel a lot
of social pressure, professional pressure not to open their mouths
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because they they're swinging.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Against the tide. I think there's a you know, there's the.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Kind of the White House press pool, State House press
pool kind. There's the same type of dynamic that they
want to fit in and not not stand out unless
they see blood in the water, like some of the
reporters did with TFA at City Hall. There were several
reporters who actually went aggressively after that story. Good for them,
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and you do see some like aggressive journalism, but it
seems only when the it seems only when the cool
when the Democrat Party decides to throw someone overboard, then
they get permission to beat the snot out of somebody.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
But other than that, forget about it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know, I thought, yeah, I thought, I thought after
and I think.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's one of the biggest scandals in modern political history
of Biden's mental health status and the fact that, you know,
it was like a conspiracy to keep this quiet. And
I thought that after that blew up the way it did,
that that would sort of inject some reality and that
these journalists would say, you know what, maybe we have gone.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Too far to the left.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
But I don't see them learning from that lesson less
It's like you said, when they get permission, basically, okay,
here is now the sacrificial.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Lamb on that side.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You can go beat them up because listen, I don't
know if you read Jack Jake Tapper's book.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I haven't. I'm not going to buy it.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
But the fact that he was completely complicit in hiding
it and then he writes a book talking about how,
oh my god, this was a big cover up.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Do you think there'll ever be something that causes them
to just say, you know what, maybe we should just
call balls and strikes, even if they prefer a left
leaning candidate.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You know, I think part of this comes from the
Democrats party's far lurch to the left, that anything justifies
an advancement.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Of the revolution, no matter what it is, and the
hell with the truth.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I mean, anyone with two eyes could see that Biden
was not one hundred percent right. And for you to
sit there and cover that up and not even talk
about it when he can't walk across the White House
lawn and he's stumbling in an event and he doesn't
know where to go, it was sad. And and for
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the mainstream media just to say like nothing, it was
shameful and like they don't really deserve our respect anymore
as far.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
As I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
All right, welcome back to the show. We've been listening
to Jack Gateley. Tell them where they can reach you again, Jack.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Jack dot com or Jonithgateley dot com or on Twitter
or acts John F.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Gaily.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And you do a morning live stream most mornings.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
You know, it's still a hobby.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So most Okay, Now we just had this were you
did you attend the No King's rally or like cover
that in any way?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I had in the past, But this past weekend I
was very happy to spend parents weekend with my daughter
in my wife, so.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Family first job, Oh, absolutely outstanding. Well, you know, I h.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I sit back and I think because I'm listening again
to the media, and it kills me that none of
them said, you know, well, technically, the fact that the
Democrats shut the government down proves that there's no king.
The fact that we just had an election in all
swing states and the popular vote and the electoral College
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were won by Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
That was democracy.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And yet you see them out there basically acting as
if that this is an autocratic kind of country. And
I made a point on X where I said, listen,
Massachusetts is operating more like an autocracy than the United
States of America.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
And would you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Remember too, that the people that are wrapping themselves in
the American flag, this is the same generation that burned
the American flag and the sixties and the seventies, the
same people and ultimately unfortunately, terrifically sadly wrapped up in
a lot of this is actually a disdain for America
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at the core.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Right, they want to move America to the left. And
you know, there's a big difference between socialism and communism.
And let me tell you what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It is how you spell the words, otherwise it's the
same thing. But that's what this whole push is about.
And we're going to see it next year, John two
with the two hundred and fifty, the anniversary of our God,
a gift of a country.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
They're going to wrap themselves around the whatever number it
is to buy.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Centennial plus fifty, the two fifty, as if.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They're the heroes of the American Revolution.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And I just might cute.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, you know, I think if they just stop trying
to save democracy by sacrificing democracy, you know, we might
be Okay. We've seen the coronation of Hillary Clinton attempt.
We saw the coronation of Kamala Harris where there's no
kind of electoral process. I believe that, you know, and
this is when we talked about the US Senate here.
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I believe the Democrats plan and why Marky's running again
and why Warren endorsed him immediately is because they're assuming
more heally will win. Markia get three three and a
half to four years into his term, he'll retire, and
if it's a democratic governor, they're gonna pick Michelle wou
to sit in that seat, and then she'll get to
run as an incumbent after two hundred days in a
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general election, and that always seems to be their their map.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I just mentioned.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Obviously Massachusetts politics with Ed Markey. Any thoughts right now
with Markey Molten? Do you think Presley gets in?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, I mean that's a I was waiting for you
to mention her name, you know, like, could she missed
her missed her moment? She's all about the moment and change,
can't wait and going back to your other thing. Don't
forget too that the same people that are saying no
Kings are the same people who don't want the audit
that seventy two percent of US voted for.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Let's not forget that.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Will Presley get into this US Senate race, I don't know,
other than you know, I'm just gonna say yes. But
if I had a guest right now, if you're making
me guess right now, John, I'm gonna just say yes.
Only because I wanted to get into the pure entertainment.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Well, there were there, we was.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
There was a poe in February that some folks that
wanted me to run, and it showed that I could
beat Marky two to three four points.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
It's just one pole doesn't mean much.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But what's been reported is the Democrat did a poll
of Democratic primary voters, not general voters, but Democratic primary voters,
and they put up Trey hand Ouchin, Kloud, Smolten Presley,
all of them against Marky. I ain't a Presley was
the only one that beat him out, And so I
popped in a video of Joe Kennedy debate and.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Marky five years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I threw up in my mouth because I watched these
guys get on stage argue over who was more pro
Black Lives Matter, who was more pro reparations, citizenship for
twenty million illegals, not just amnesty, but citizenship, open borders.
Biological men compete against women, just looney left stuff, right,
And I think that if she gets in, those looney
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lefts are going to gravitate, you know, towards her. So
it'll be interesting. Let's talk about the governor's race. And
now we've got mcnoe getting in the race. He'll be
coming on the show in the near future, hopefully. I've
had short Sleeve and I've had Knelian. Any general thoughts again,
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you have your pulse, you know, I know you're active.
You were very active with the Plymouth mass goop stuff.
I think you were instrumental in making sure that the
right thing happened in that situation. But what's your general thoughts.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'm happy to see all three of them in there.
And you know, something you said earlier about not being
being a critical thinker or you know, and.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I've said positive and negative things about all three of
these guys, but let me be perfectly clear, all three
of them are like a gazillion times better than more Realy.
But having worked in campaigns, I got my first paid
political gig in nineteen eighty eight, you know, And and
of course has said as a quit politics for a
whole decade. But having worked in campaigns, I've seen a
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lot of candidates in a lot of campaigns, and I
can add you know, some I don't care like you know,
I'm just providing my two cents.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I'm just not here to be a cheerleader.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I'm here to critique and hopefully they listen. I know
they listen because I hear back.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
From them, and hopefully they can improve.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Because I think that's the benefit of a primary, is
that you go through this battle and up comes the
strongest candidate, and each one of these candidates does have
strengths in their own way.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
And some negatives.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I'm just if you want to listen to a cheerleader,
there's plenty of GOP.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Raw Row cheerleaders. I'm here to find that's the.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Best candidate for November twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It was February first of last year and I was
sitting there and I was thinking, should I get in
this race?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
War No one knows me.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I was not active in GOP politics in Massachusetts. I
didn't know any And you know, I'm sure you've been
depressed like me, where you go to a ballot in
Massachusetts and you'll see unopposed Democrat, unopposed Democrat, unopposed Democrat.
And the thought of Warren just not even being challenged
on stage, it bothered me.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
So I said, effort.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm gonna do it. I know I probably get my
butt kicked. And I was so new to it. All
I did was Okay, who was the last Republican in Massachusetts,
Governor Baker?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Okay, who was his team? Hire them? And nineteen days later,
I'm in the race. One thing I was naive to
I knew there was.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Division, but I didn't know it to that extent, whether
you want to call it establishment versus anti establishment, or
Mago versus Rhino, or purist versus pragmatists, whatever label people
give it. Do you believe that the Republicans can unite?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I do believe that.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
In fact, you know, we had this kerfuffle to use
a Jim Browdie word, a Republican town committee a month ago,
and about a week ago I went to a Massachusetts
GOP event and we hugged it out.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You know, why can't we be friends? Bro right?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
So I think we can get along and eventually we
can unite. But just like the Democrats with Molten and
Marquee and maybe Presley, there's going to be a bruising primary.
And so there's going to be a bruising primary with Kneely,
Minogue and Shursley, and of course the caucuses around the corner.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And you know, this is politics.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So the whole process is to see who comes out of.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
This the winner.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Because as Republicans, more than anything, we wanted to reward
merit in the best candidate. We don't want to cherry
pick somebody who's never gotten a vote in a primary
for instance.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Right, you know, let me ask you the do you
think the one thing that I would if I could
change anything in Massachusetts, To be honest with you, it
would be the date of the primary, you know, a
September third primary. I was at the Bitcoin conference where
President Trump spoke. I was with Bernie Marino. We're in
the green room. He won against Sharon Brown in Ohio,
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and he said to me, goes, John, what do you
mean you have a primary? I go, I got a
primary September third. He's like, oh my god, it gives
you two months. And that's the one thing I think
we could change. It's such an incumbent friendly system because
you got to pivot and you got nine weeks to
the day. But that's the way it is. Listen, I
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think we can unite. And I look at President Trump
as an example. I mean, look at Marco Rubio today,
you know, and how critical he was at one point.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
JD.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Vance is the city vice president of the United States.
And so I'm cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
It was one thing that I underestimated. I didn't realize
to the extent, and I didn't realize that the internal
politics were that had gone on in Massachusetts. And anyways,
what stories are you you're thinking of covering, what's the.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
If you could sum up what.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You think is moving forward, the most important thing that
you'd want to cover, what would.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
It be In the big picture.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I think we have two very big picture stories. One
is the massive shift that the Hilly administration is pushing
from offshore wind now to solar, and that is going
to drive up your utility bills like you've never seen before.
These zero mandates have just now begun to hit.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You think you're.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Upset about your electric suitability, now this is literally just
the tip of the iceberg and that's it. There's way
more to come, and they're pushing solar. So that's a big,
long term story. And the second issue is very, very big,
is this push to raise taxes in Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
If not at the state.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Level, certainly at all your municipal levels. There's going to
be a giant push to raise taxes because the last
thing they want to do is rate in the size
of government. They believe that government should be all things
to all people, and every year get bigger and bigger
and bigger and bigger, and at a grow at a
rate far far exceeding the private sector, and eventually what
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you have is what Margaret Thatcher says.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
All right, hopefully you'll be there on the tenth and
you'll get an invite.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Thank you man my calendar.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Thanks John, Thank you a great day.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
You too, brother. Bye.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
All right, welcome back everybody. You're listening to the Hard Truth.
I'm John Deaton. Remember you can reach me on the
show at John at Hard Truthshow dot com. John at
Hard Truthshow dot com. We were talking about the No
Kings Rally and this theory that the United States is
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under the control of a king.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Or an autocrat.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Now, autocracy if you look what it means, it's basically
when one person has complete control. I think you can
call an autocracy. Sometimes also when a few people have control.
Technically they call those oligarchies and oligarchs, and you hear
Bernie Sanders talk a.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Lot about that.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
But as far as who's in power an autocrat, we
can't say Donald Trump is an autocrat because we're in
a government shut down. The King's Route No King's Rally happened, right,
No one got jailed for protesting, no one got hurt
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for protesting, So clearly we don't live under that kind
of system. But I posted something on X and it
was let's have a compare garrison between America and Massachusetts,
and that comparison is what I call an autocratic comparison.
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Let's figure out which one is operating more like an autocracy?
Is it Massachusetts or is it America? And I would
submit to you all out there listening that Massachusetts is
currently operating much more like an autocracy than the United States.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Is.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
The parades and the no King's rallies just happened. The
government shut down just happened, proving that the minority power
minority party has substantial power in this government.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
The power that's so.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Significant it can literally shut down the government by saying
I don't like your policies in the big beautiful Bill.
I disagree with them, so I'm just not going to
play anymore. Even though the vote the American people voted
for you, even though you won off swing states, and
even though you have a complete control of the Senate
and the House and the ability to fulfill your policies,
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we just don't agree with them, and we don't agree
with the majority of the American people who elected you.
We're going to shut down the government. Okay, that's clearly
not an autocracy. But here in Massachusetts, we are operating
like an autocracy if you just talk about a few
people in power. We have a one party rule. For example,
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seventy two percent of the voters in Massachusetts made it
the law, made it the law that the state auditor
could audit the state legislature. Before that ballot got on
the ballot, that ballot question measure got on the ballot
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for you, you and I to vote for it, it
had to be approved by the Attorney General of Massachusetts,
Andrea Campbell. Well, Andrea Campbell in her office reviewed the
ballot question, the audit question, and approved it. What that
means is that the attorney General said, this is a
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constitutional measure and it's for the people to decide, and
then we voted and overwhelmingly think about that. In this
divided world that we live in, it's hard to get
sixty percent right. It's hard to get fifty five percent
of people to agree. We're split like fifty one forty nine.
Most of the time, well seventy three percent basically said
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we want this to be the law. We want to
see where our tax dollars, how they're being spent, where
they're being spent how are contracts being awarded? Is it
a bidding process or are politicians rewarding their donors? Are
politicians filling the pockets of their friends, or is it
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truly a good system, a merit based system of competition.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
So the voters said this is the law and overwhelmingly
made it the law.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Two people, Karen Spilker, who's President of the Senate in
the state legislature, Ron Mariano, who Speaker of the House,
and the state Legislature. So now we're not going to comply.
Diana Disaglia, the state audit says, Hey, the people have spoken,
it's the law.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
I'm going to do this audit. Now, we don't think
so that's what they said. We don't think so. We
think it's unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
They just throw that out there, even though the Attorney
Generate already decided it was proper. That is autocracy, man,
that is totalitarianism, dictatorship.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
The people have made this the law.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
But we're not gonna comply, and there's nothing you could
do about it. We're laughing in your face. We're giving
you the middle finger.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Now, guess what.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
The Attorney General, Andrea Campbell, who previously blessed that ballot measure,
won't help Diana Dezaglia hold the legislature to the law.
They're breaking the law every day, and she's the attorney general,
and she won't lift a finger to help Diana Dosaglia. Why, well,
(41:36):
she's doing TikTok videos but dancing in her office about
how many lawsuits she went against Donald Trump. She sued
Donald Trump twenty four times, and she's gonna keep suing
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
In the meantime, in the state of which she.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Serves, she won't lift a finger to make these state
legislatures comply with the law. Now that's Andrea Campbell. Well,
let's look at Governor Healey. Governor Healey claims that she
voted for it. She claimed that it was a good idea.
Of course, of course we should order the legislature. She
(42:14):
won't help Diana Desaglia. All they'll talk about.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Is Trump, Trump, Trump Trump.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
But in their own backyard, the voters, the taxpayers are
getting a middle finger by the legislature saying now we're
not going to comply with the law, and nobody will
do anything about it. Ladies and gentlemen, that's more like
an autocracy. Governor Healey has been the least transparent governor
(42:46):
in America. She won't even tell you the money she
spent on the migrant crisis, billions of dollars. She declared
an emergency, and under emergency she gets to just do
whatever she wants. No big contracts. Here's a contract to
this company for millions. Here's a contract to this cleaning
(43:06):
company for millions, cab company for millions, a caterer for millions.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
And we don't know what the money's going to. She
doesn't have to tell us.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
That's someone who believes they're acting above the law. In
the meantime, nationally, President Trump said he's going to send
some troops somewhere. Guess what they assume in the Federal
court says no. President Trump holds off. That's complying with
the law. Appellate court says no, you can send troops.
Then he sends troops. That's someone who's complying with the law.
(43:39):
We've got people in Massachusetts who will not comply with
the law. So I submit to you which one is
more of an autocracy? Is it Massachusetts or is it
the United States? Under Donald Trump? And these politicians man,
they've got to decide one question that they need to answer.
(44:03):
And this is meant for Ed Markey and Seth Molten.
I ain't a Presley, all of the congress people and
Senators Elizabeth Warren, all of them. Do you love America
in Massachusetts more than you hate Donald Trump? Because I
(44:26):
honestly believe that they hate Donald Trump more than they
love America. I think they have an indictment for America.
I think they have contempt for America. I think they
don't like America. I really believe that many of you
(44:47):
know that I wasn't a Trump guy, but he's the
President of uned states Man. And all you have to
ask yourself if you represent Massachusetts, is you just got
I have one test, and that one test is is
this policy, whatever it is, is it good for America
(45:11):
and Massachusetts. If it is, then you support it. If
it isn't, then you don't support it. And who's the president?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Really?
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Really, honestly, it shouldn't matter that much because there's I
can't imagine any president that I'm going to agree with
one hundred percent of the time. I honestly can't fathom
that there's going to be some kind of disagreement. But
I can agree that the border needs to be secured.
(45:49):
I can agree with that. I agree with it one
hundred percent. I can get on stage and say, you know,
I didn't support President Trump last election, but I got
to say illegal crossings at the southern border that are
down ninety five percent, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
It's not only really good for America, but it's really
really good for Massachusetts because, let's face it, with the
right to shelter law and it not requiring residency, if
these illegals show up here, we have a governor who's
just putting them up in hotels and giving them food
and giving them food stamps and giving them cash and
(46:31):
catering the food and giving them free uber rides and
free healthcare and all of those things.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
And it is bankrupting us as a state.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
So you could say that when President Trump and the
administration wants to get rid of a rapist, an illegal
who crossed the border illegally and molested a child, yeah,
I want them off the street, man, Get him out
of here, get them out of our country. I don't
(47:01):
even want to pay for him to get three square
meals a day in prison. Send him to Venezuela, send
him to wherever a Salvador or wherever gang he's from.
If he's from a gang, I can say that, And
I can say if I was in office, I'll help
you President Trump and Ice, I'll help you get rid
(47:23):
of that bad guy. But at the same time, if
they do things like snatching a grad student from Tufts
who wrote an op ed that was pro Palestine, I.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Can say, I disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
That's what kind of leadership we need. I'll see you
next week.
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