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The Hub on Hollywood, hosted by Jamie and James, delves into the thriving film industry in New England. The podcast explores the production of various projects, including commercials, television shows, and full-length feature films.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
This is the Hub on Hollywood and iHeartRadio Podcast. Thank
you very much for joining us this week. I am
your co host, James Rojas.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm your other co host, Jamie Blanco.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
On this episode, it's back to the theaters for many
classic and recent hit films. A Marvel actor slamming the
use of artificial intelligence and the idea of getting rid
of hundreds of background actors. Adam Driver just can't let
the Past die? And Austin Butler and Michael B. Jordan
Are they the next Buddy cop duo? It looks like it.
(00:43):
But first, Jamie, let me ask you a question. Okay,
when you're at a restaurant, When you're at a restaurant
and and you're waiting for your meal, you know, you know,
you may see waiters walking by with dishes and trays
and you think, oh, is that on mine? Oh no,
that was not mine. I was passing by. Oh that
was not mine either. But there's one dish that you
(01:04):
cannot ignore and you cannot mistake to be yours or not,
and that is the infamous fajitas. James, have you heard
of fahida envy?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I have not heard of envy, but I have been
envious of fijidas before.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That is exactly what I'm talking about. So fadida envy
for those who are not familiar, if you haven't been
to a restaurant that offers like this kind of Mexican
Spanish dish, but it's basically the loudest dish in recorded
history when when waiters come out of the kitchen and
there is a sizzling steaming plate that this waiter is carrying,
(01:42):
wafting all throughout the restaurant as it passes by your table,
onto the table right next to you, and that sizzling
sound is the root cause for what is considered fajita envy,
which causes people to turn their heads, jerk their heads back, listen, smell,
and hear that party passing right by them, and then
think to themselves, man, I should have ordered fijidas.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, yeah, yeah with it. I'm I'm on board.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Have you ever had that fijida envy in in a restaurant?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I feel like every time I go to a restaurant
and I don't order fididas and I see it go by,
I regret it instantly. I'm like, look at it. It's delicious,
it's hot, it's sizzling, The cheese is melting right in
front of you. The oh my god, there's like onions
and other veggies, and the nicely browned meat, like just
(02:35):
perfectly cooked, and the rice and the beans and the
I mean basically, if it's on the menu, really, why
are you ordering anything else?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But what if I told you, Jamie, that that fajida
is a lie?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yes? What do you mean? So people on social media
have been sharing the secrets of the fajida and it's
not you know, you what you imagine? What do you
imagine a fijida? So like you know, it comes out
on that really really hot iron skillet and you're made
to believe that they cooked it all on that skillet
and it's coming out and it's just sizzling and bursting
(03:12):
with flavor. And the flavor is there, don't get me wrong,
that is there, But that sizzle, that sizzle is a lie.
It's a fake because what they do is they cook
the food and then they put it on an extremely
hot iron, you know, a cast iron plate, and then
they just dump water, They spray water or what they
(03:34):
call sizzle juice sometimes on the fijeto right before they
take it out. So hence all that water is evaporating
and that's what's creating that sizzle, not the food.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's all a l'ames. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Information from These are people, These are the These are
the folks behind the behind the front lines, the back
of the house, the cooks, the waiters. They're revealing the
secret on social media and yeah, it's it's all marketing.
It's all a ploy and it's working.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
This is not acceptable. This is so what you're saying
is this is like instead of movie magic, it's like
restaurant magic. There. It's it's fake, right, it's not really happening,
but they're making it look and sound real.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The imagination, yeah, just like a movie. It's your imagination
that's filling the gaps, that's really buying into this and
then tasting the flavor of the heat. But let me
ask you, Jamie, because that got me thinking. You know,
more and more movie theaters are introducing meals into the
theater going experience while you're watching the film. I think
(04:41):
the fahida. I dare a movie theater to introduce the
fahida as one of their menus options that you could
bring into the theater with you. Because I think that
would be the most hilarious thing. Either you yourself walking
in with a with a steaming hot hype in loud,
(05:01):
very smelly you know, you know, you know it's smell
as well, smells good, but a very loud dish. Walking
into a qui movie theater and taking your seat, finding
your seat, sitting down and just going in town. Or
even better yet, when the when the theater employees, they're
the ones that bring you the food during like a
during a very pivotal moment in the film, you'll order
(05:22):
the fahetas and they come in and they're steaming, filling
up the entire place.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I think that would work in certain settings. Maybe maybe,
As you know, I'm a fan of the chain Chunkies,
which is like a restaurant movie theater where it's just
long tables and big chairs and it's family friendly and
it's it's that people walking in and out with their
food all throughout. That might be the only setting I
(05:50):
feel like, were you get away with that? I don't
I don't need a sizzling feta in the middle of
a dramatic moment and you like it in the middle
of an MCU movie or something.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Like that add to the aura, I think and plus,
but I do agree. I do agree that it may
lead to chaos because, as I said, fahiita envy is
a real thing. So you have one person ordering the
fahidas and that comes in, everybody turns their head. They
are listening, they're smelling, they're becoming more envious, and then
they're like, you know what, let me order the fidos
(06:21):
and then Eoventually you have twenty fahidas storming into the
movie theater. You know, you can't see past the steam.
People are are passing out from both the smelly goodness
and the full belly of meat and onions and all
that other stuff that goes along with it. So that
could lead to chaos.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I think that you should write a short film about.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Just this, and I'm gonna pay this. I'm I think
can nail this.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
All right, I agree, I agree. But the one food
that I know that absolute needs to return immediately, this
very second, James, can you guess, of course, absolutely, the
curly fries need to come back. I'm still waiting, AMC.
I'm still waiting.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'm set in my.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Seat in the theater, waiting for my curly Fries. Okay,
and I'd like them hot and steaming. Please.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The fa my nickname in high school. Well, you know
what is not coming to a movie theater near or
what is rather coming to a movie theater near you.
It's not the Fajitas. But it's some classic films that
are standing the test of time. And speaking of time,
one of them is Back to the Future celebrating its
fortieth fortieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm gonna pretend you didn't say that. I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, Back to the Future coming back on October thirty
first to select theaters, and I believe it's at AMC
where they are making available beloved and possibly priceless delor
in a popcorn bucket.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh, my goodness, is a corn bucket take you back
to the future.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It'll take you back somewhere. It'll take you back somewhere.
It's a good times to better times. But that's a
great film and it's going to be appearing again the
AMC theaters and other places. So I haven't seen that film.
I've watched it a million times, but never on the
big screen. So if there's any time to do it,
now is the time for me to go watch this.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I really enjoy that they bring back these films so
that the next generation can enjoy it the way that
it was enjoyed originally, in that you know, beautiful communal
space with the giant screen and everyone together, because there
are lots of people that are younger and never got
the chance, right. And this is not the only big
(08:46):
famous film that is coming back to the theaters this weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean there's a bunch, right yeah. So we have
Sinners coming back, one of my favorite films of the year,
if not my favorite film of the year, Sinners coming
back to theaters October thirtieth and November fifth. Perfect timing
because they just announced that Sinners submitted two original songs
for Oscars this year, and it needs to win all
the Oscars. It needs to win all the prizes because,
(09:14):
as I mentioned, possibly the best film of the year.
Another film that is on Netflix but is coming back
for another round in theaters is K Pop Demon Hunters
just in time for Halloween. Coming on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
All right, this is a single look they keep bringing
K Pop Demon Hunters back to the theaters. After the
Netflix CEO you know, went on his multiple rants about
how movie theaters are dead and everybody wants to just
see things at home, and like right, and had been
going back and forth and the theater CEOs were sniping
(09:50):
with the streaming CEOs, and now that there's money in
it for both of them, they're just so chummy together,
right and letting this happen. But I love love, love
love love Kate Pop, Demon Hunters, all of their songs,
they're going up up. It's the ever moment. Oh my god.
So I appreciate that there's another opportunity to take my
(10:13):
kids to the theaters to watch it, because they are
absolutely obsessed. But it's not the only musical that you
can go and see in theaters this week, James. Not
the thirtieth anniversary, not the fortieth, but the fiftieth anniversary
of Rocky Horror Picture Show in time for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, but you know what, this movie has never really
left theaters, like it's always constantly playing at midnight showings
all across the country. This is just another friendly reminder
to go watch it in theaters. This is one movie, Jamie,
you should not take your kids to go watch. One
musical you should not take your kids to go watch,
just not yet. Eventually, Yeah, it's a great film. The beloved, fantastic,
(10:58):
talented Tim Kerr starring in that film, and he also
stars in another film which isn't back in theaters, but
is just another reminder. Fortieth anniversary of Clue. If you
have not watched this film, go watch Clue. It is
one of my favorite. I wouldn't say, you know, top
ten movies, but it's one of my movies from childhood
(11:20):
that I've watched many times and has filled with so
many great characters and actors that I can't help myself
but watch it anytime it's on TV or it's streaming anywhere.
But fortieth anniversary of Clue. As I mentioned Tim Curry,
he is out with a new memoir called Vagabond, which
I purchased and it has finally arrived to my house
(11:41):
in book form. I'm getting rid of all my digital
digital books and whatnot. I'm still keeping him, but I'm not.
I'm buying physical stuff now, Jamie, just like my DVDs.
But I'm really excited to get into that memoir again
by Tim Curry. As you may remember, he suffered a
stroke over ten years ago and it's taken him such
a long time to be able to speak and regain
(12:03):
his speech, and he was recently interviewed talking about the memoir,
and I'm so happy to see how well he has improved.
He's still wheelchair bound, but you can still tell that
he is sharp as a wit. And and you know,
so happy to see him speaking much clearer and better.
And really can't wait to get into Vagabond.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Wonderful, wonderful, so many options, so many great things to
go and experience this Halloween time in the theater. So god,
ell of Tim Curry so much. And James, what is
it about these movies that makes them so good? I
would argue it's it's the actors, It's the essence. It's
(12:45):
that humanity that they bring to the screen, right, that
that that special sauce, not sauce, not the not the
But they sizzle anyway, Tim Curry always sizzles. You know
what doesn't sizzle AI? Right, not human not bringing the
(13:06):
secret sauce. And actors are out here fighting for their lives,
fighting for their livelihoods against artificial intelligence. Brian Cranston applauding
changes now to Sorah two's AI policies after people were
(13:29):
just going to town and making deep fakes of actors
likenesses and voices. The No Fakes Act, a federal law
that would ban non consensual digital replicas. Sag after is
making the passage of this law one of their highest priorities,
(13:53):
and open AI is actually with it. They are in support.
They say they are deeply committed to protecting performers from
the misappropriation of their likenesses. And this is something that
Brian Cranston has been applauding, that he has been fighting for,
is something that the union has been very much concerned about.
(14:18):
It was one of the big sticking issues when they
were on strike for that extended period of time. And
it's not an issue that is going away. James, No,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And I'm glad you mentioned that. You know, people are
speaking up. Actors are talking about, you know, how this
is affecting their livelihood. And it's not just background actors
who are possibly going to be the most affected, but
you have big A list stars speaking out on their
behalf and one of them is none other than MCU
star simou Leu. He's calling out the use of AI
(14:53):
in Hollywood defending backgrounds. So, you know, the Shark Tank
host Kevin O'Leary, Kevin O'Leary. He's starring in the new
film with Timothy Shallowmy Marty Supreme, and he was recently
quoted talking about how he suggested AI could replace human
extras as a measure to reduce movie budgets. He was
(15:14):
going on by saying, you know, they add as many
as one hundred and fifty extras. They at the stay
awake for eighteen hours, dressed in the background, and you
know they're not necessarily in the movie, but you know
they're moving around, but that you can cut them and
save millions and millions of dollars by using AI. Now,
of course, somebody who's very rich and has connections probably
(15:36):
doesn't have to worry about certain jobs or whatnot. But
these background actors, you know they do. And so it's
so good to see simul Leu speaking out about this.
He tweeted following a comment about the article an article
about the comments, saying, quote, sure, blame the extras making
fifteen to twenty two dollars an hour, struggling to make
a living, and not above the line people making multiple millions. Oh,
(16:00):
you know, it's not the greatest thing in the world,
but it's it's these little things to speak out and
respond to some comments that are you know, I would say,
I don't know, out of touch and the best way
to say, you know, the least controversial way to say it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Very out of touch. And I really appreciate Siemulio coming
out and saying what he had to say, because where
what are the vast majority of acting jobs, James. They
aren't They aren't the lead actors. They are the hundreds
and thousands of background jobs that are there for SAG actors,
for non union actors trying to break in. That is
(16:43):
the bulk of it. That is the vast majority, the vast,
vast majority of acting jobs are in the background. That
is how actors get their experience, break into the union,
work their way up, build their portfolios, and how they
get paid. They're not saving millions and millions of dollars
if they took that away. They're stealing that. They're taking
(17:06):
that away from the actors. So it is, it's it's
it's it's terrible. It's terrible. And like we, like I
mentioned just a little bit ago, that's one of the
big sticking points that SAG after was UH fighting for.
And it happened here in Boston James when they were
right when they were making I Want to Dance with
(17:28):
Some bad impossible to say without singing the that that
film they captured background actors likenesses because this was during COVID, right,
they needed big, uh background scenes of people in the
audiences and dancing together, and they couldn't really do that
(17:52):
at that time because of social distancing. So they used
that as an excuse to digitally capture background actors and
insert them into the film. What they didn't say, what
they didn't make clear unless you read the fine fine print,
was that once they captured your likeness, they had it forever,
and they were able to recreate you and use you
(18:16):
to make composites that they would use in other films
for all time.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, and this was not cool.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So we had a performance a performer, Nicole, who was
on with us, who found herself in a film that
she did not film, that she did not participate in,
that she was not paid for without understanding the fine print.
So it's a real danger to actors' jobs, the entire profession.
(18:48):
So it's a relief to hear the not only the
little guys you know, shouting out about it, but the
big guys, the bigger actors, the top of the line,
the above the line, folks who understand that this is
the pipeline, this is the entire industry. The background actors
(19:08):
are not dispensable. They are part of what makes anything
alive that they are making. When you make a film,
the background actors are important. They are the texture. They
are the heartbeat of what makes anything feel like it
is real, it's lived in, it's alive.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, to say that you can replace them, yeah, of
course there are scenes where, like, you know, maybe there's
an explosion, there's a big earth shattering events where you
can't literally have real people there and then, but those
are created by visual effects artists. So yeah, so there's
a time and place for that. But you know, this
isn't the time nor place, or I don't think there
ever will be.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And James, one last point just for the big guys,
for the A list actors who are afraid of their likenesses.
Just to clarify, Sora Too is now allowing performers to
opt in to have their likenesses used on the platform.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I don't know why you would.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I don't know why right exactly, but they are tweaking
their platform to give copyright holders and performers greater control
over how their images are used. Again, I don't know
why we would opt in, but at least they're they're
moving in that direction, protecting above the line and below
(20:32):
the line. But guys, we're all part of the line
that makes movies and classics like the ones that we've
been talking about and just everything. So how do you
guys feel about it? How do you guys feel about
AI and the movie industry and television? Let us know
(20:52):
in the comics down below, James, Where can people find us?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, so you can find us everywhere. Of course, we
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(21:16):
that jazz at hub on Hollywood. Give us a like,
give us a follow, and yeah, do that and send
us some money too. Why not? But you know what
we're talking about, opting in, opting out? You know who's
opting out of more more Star Wars contents? Surprisingly, Disney. Disney,
(21:37):
Disney is opting out. I'm just kind of not entirely surprised, honestly,
but you know, it's hard for them to say no
to anything that they think can make money. But maybe
they think this couldn't make money. Jamie, what are we
talking about?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Lord, have mercy? James, Well, you might if you've watched
The Hub on Hollywood. If you know me, perhaps you
might know that I have an affinity for a mister
Adam Driver and a certain a certain character that he
brought to life. Kylo red right disappeared, remember just a touch,
(22:14):
just a just a bit obsessive beyond what's comfortable for
people Luca's film. Uh and and if anybody you know,
if you've watched the sequel trilogies, you know that at
the end of the trilogy, he became Ben Solo again,
was redeemed and disappeared into the Force, which I won't
(22:37):
get into right now.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Did he disappear?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
He did disappear? He does? He does disappear.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I know, I know he dies, but I forgot he
he he disappears, vanishes.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He force vanishes. You know, he saves Ray's life. They embrace,
they kiss, and then he disappears unacceptable, But James, no
one stays dead in the Star Wars universe. No one,
No one stays dead. Right. Lucasfilm reportedly spent over three
million dollars on a complete script for a film that
(23:15):
would have followed Ben Solo after the events of the
sequel trilogy. Uh. It was gonna be called the Hunt
for Ben's Solo. It was something that Adam Driver himself
initiated James as he felt that there was so much
unfinished business with the Kylo Ren character, which I completely
(23:40):
agree with. He was redeemed at the end. If we
didn't get to see him as Ben's Solo, we had
we got like these really short glimpses of how amazing
a character Ben Solo would have been, channeling his father
Hans Solo, giving those cheeky grins and shrugs, but with
the power of the force the charisma of Han Solo.
(24:02):
My god, were we ripped off and could have had
so much more? And more so now discovering how much
more we could have had with the Hump for Ben's Solo,
I'm gonna lose my mind. So this was intended to
have a lower budget than the sequel trilogy inspired by
The Empire Strikes Back, directed by Steven Sodenberg from the
(24:24):
Ocean's Trilogy and Contagion. He was brought on to direct
Really Into the Really in support of this project. He
was behind it one hundred percent. Scott z Burns of
Side Effects wrote the script and the script was in
development for over two years. Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni
(24:46):
both approved it, both loved it. But it was Bob Iger, Okay,
head honcho of Disney himself, who shot down the movie
because James, and here's where I'm gonna get really angry
and then I'll bring you in, Okay, because just went
up and offten. He couldn't understand, he said, it didn't
(25:06):
make sense to him how Ben's solo would still be alive.
This coming from a guy, okay who the only explanation
we got for Palpatine being back was somehow Palpatine's alive. Boom.
That's it. That was all the rationale we got, and
that worked, right. They put that in the movie. Somehow,
(25:30):
somehow he's back. But you know what, but we couldn't
do that for Ben.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Sol suce a man learned from his mistakes. Jamie no,
it was obviously everyone knew that. The whole Palpatine thing.
Oh somehow he came back was atrocious and ridiculous and
dare I say stupid? So like maybe Bobier was like,
you know what, We're not going to do that again.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But here's the thing. There are other ways that Ben
Solo could have come back the World between Worlds, which
has been explored in the animated series before.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
But don't be don't you have to be physical, don't
you have to be living to travel through the world
or the worlds whatever, Or there are.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Ways that he could have been saved by his mother,
by by other Jedi, you know, like there are ways
that would be plausible in universe for his soul to
have made its way, his forced ghost or whatever, to
have made its way to the World between Worlds, to
have been resurrected, and for him to maybe if this
(26:29):
was even a play inside of the World between Worlds
where he explores how to return to Ben's Solo because
here's another way. Okay, Kylo Ren is dead, but Ben
Solo is alive. You know, like this duality of this
man and one of one half of his essence is gone,
but the other remains, and it just needs the love
(26:50):
of Ray to bring him back, because they are two
parts of the same.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Soul, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And there's got to be a way for where to
bring him back. No, don't there's a way.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
To do it, Jamie. What now? How about this? Hear me?
Hear me out? One of the three million dollars is
way too much money to work on a script, no
matter how how long it took. But two maybe, and
hear me out. Maybe the demand just isn't there. Maybe
Star Wars people, a lot of folks who were not
(27:22):
happy with the last trilogy just want to let the
past die just are not interested. And no matter what
you do or who you bring back, it is, it's
you're you're trying to draw water from a well that's
that's too far empty, too far gone. I don't know, Jamie,
Just like Ben.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Solo discovered that you cannot actually let the past die.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Do you think there's demand there? Do you aside from yourself?
Aside from yourself, Jamie, do you think there's actual demand
actually from the general audience? General audience, general audience, because
those are the people that they need to buy tickets
and go watch this film. General audience. Do you think
there is demand?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yes, I do. In Times Square, someone hired a billboard.
They paid thousands of dollars for a billboard that read,
for Adam, no One's ever really gone, Hope lives, Ben
is alive, The Hunt for Ben's Solo. Someone actually rented
out that billboard somebody over the skies of Disney. Was
(28:25):
it Lucasfilms?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
How Driver probably bought that skyrider okay, Adam Driver probably
did that with a banner that.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Said the Hunt for Ben's Solo.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That's one person, Jamie, That's one person who probably bought
those ads.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Me like I have that disposable income. But you the
reason I think that the reason that Adam is coming
forward with this now is because he wants to rally
the troops. He wants to rally the Railos who are
out here. Do you know how many books have been
published and have been smash hits based on the whole
(29:01):
Railo dynamic, on the Ray and Ben's solo dynamic A
ton There is a huge, huge movement that loves Ben
solo that so much and that Ray dynamic. That was
glad to see it come back. And I think that
that's why they're bringing this forward now is to rally
the troops, bring us together, storm the castle, Ben Solo
(29:23):
back to life. Steven Sodenberger himself coming out also and
saying how much he loved this project, hates that it died,
and I don't know, I feel like now it's the
perfect time to breathe new life back into it. And
so we'll see. We will see, James, we will see.
But I'm going to I'm adding my voice to the
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fray to bring this back to life. Because Ben Solo
was the beating heart Kylo Ren was the being heart
of that entire sequel trilogy. He was the most interesting
character with the most potential, and I think if they'd
really folk kissed on him and that journey to Ben's Solo,
the sequel trilogy wouldn't have sucked so badly.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
The most potential was Finn. I think that can't be denied.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That can't be denied, right, So tell me how Yeah, right,
right right?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Finn had the most potential, but that is you know,
if he if they come out, Oh we're trying to
get a Finn movie launch, Like I'm done, No one's no,
one's demanding it. Everyone acknowledges he was done wrong. Sure,
maybe Adam Driver's character was done wrong. But I don't.
I don't. I'm on the internet all the time, Jamie,
I don't see it. Maybe this is not in my sphere,
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my view.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
But not in the right part of the internet, James,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I don't go down that dark, dark part of the internet. Jamie.
I'll take you.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'll send you links later. I'll send you links later.
What do you think? Do you think that Solo was
done dirty and deserves the right to come back and
be redeemed truly and fully with his own movie post
sequel trilogy, and and and if not, why are you
so wrong? Let us know in the comments down below.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Let us know down below. Well, yeah, yeah, Adam Driver,
Kylo Ren movie not getting the green light. But Jamie,
you know what is getting the green light?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Miami vice, Miami. I can't think of the what's the
what's the show? What's the theme? What's the theme? I
can't help I just have what's it called? What's the
one with Tom Selleck?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Maverick Maverick p I or magnum p I. I have
that song in my head, but no Miami Vice, a
different police investigator, investigatory show.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I have the euro Trip guy stuck in my head.
Miami Vice.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Number one new show, well a number it may be
a number one new movie, but it's in the works.
We have Austin Butler in talks to star in the
Miami Vice reboots. I guess you can say, starring Michael B. Jordan.
Austin Butler would play SONNYE. I know, I know you
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play Sonny Crockett in the Universal's upcoming movie, directed by
Joseph Kazinski. Michael B. Jordan was also in talks earlier
to play Miami Undercover detective Ricardo Rico Tubbs, which, yeah,
which is great because I know I'm not a big fan.
I'm not big I never really watched Miami Advice. But
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I dig the esthetic, I dig the the you know,
buddy cop movies that we need to bring back, and
so I'm actually excited. They say that this film will
explore nineteen eighties Miami, so we're going back in time
baby a period piece. And after they filmed, this is
expected to have a release of August sixth, twenty twenty seven.
(32:48):
Of course that can change, but I'm down for these
buddy cop movies, so much so that my wife and
I we actually went through all lethal weapon films one, two, three,
and four over the past two weeks. And man, the
eighties and nineties, what a time, what a time for
for movie making and to be buddy cops. But yeah, yeah,
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but I.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Austin Butler and Michae wil B Jordan like standing next
to each other, like shirtless on a speedboat, going.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
To be a shirtless but way too hot.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Well, I mean, you know, with a little like buttoned,
like the top button down in the wind. But they're
gonna melt the film.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, it seems gonna catch fire.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Scorching, scorching. That's gonna be amazing. I can't see this
not being number one, you know, if it comes to fruition.
Lots to explore in nineteen eighties Miami, where I was
born and lived through all of the cocaine wars and
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everything that happened. Yeah, well, I mean, my last name
is Blanco.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You know, you were a drug king all that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
She was actually Colombian. I'm Cuban, not related, not related,
But still that was that was a hell of a
time to be down there. It was the Heyday of Miami.
Everything down there is built with drug money. People don't realize,
like it's just it's insane, real like a movie.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I think they realize.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh okay, well that's great. But yeah, looking forward, I'm
looking forward to this one because that is just gonna
be oh my god, hot, hot, hot glente.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
My goodness, looking forward to that. And apparently there is
talks that there may be a hocus Pocus three and
one of the original cast members from the first film
is open to appearing in the film. Is that right, Jamie, Oh, yes,
yeah she is.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I don't have it up right now, but.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
She played the littlest, the little.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Play Danny Dennison in the original nineteen ninety three film,
and the there's a lot of controversy because when hocus
Pocus two was announced, you know, more Hocus to Pocus.
When that came out, none of the original cast members
made a return. So yeah, sad to see. But apparently
again I'm not sure if she's been reached out to
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and has if anybody has inquired to her directly, but
she says, apparently in an interview recently, that she'd be
super open to the idea of being in the third film.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I think that would be wonderful. I think it would
kind of rectify that that oversight from hocus Pocus two,
and it would bring more jobs back here to New England,
more acting jobs. It would be wonderful to see them
running around filming again here in New England. The original
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cast they're down.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Here every year now, Yeah, cast Jason Marsden to Jella
Nick Larry Bagbee, Yeah they now. They they are now
official Salem not technical Salem residents, but practically they're like
Salem celebrities coming down every October for the past several
years to promote, you know, talking about hocus Pocus, kind
(36:16):
of do a meet and greet with fans, sign autographs,
take pictures, party with them. So I was always great
to see them back. Bett Middler, of course are Jessica Parker,
Cathy to Jimmy. They came back for hocus Pocus too.
They have yet to come back to Salem, so we
need to get them down here with the whole cast
and crew again.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
That's amazing. So yes, here's hoping that that comes to fruition,
that we get the original cast back. James, but if
people want to get in the movies right now. There
are a bunch of things filming right now, some things
that are wrapping up soon, so they need to get
on board so really quickly. Kendall Cooper Casting right now
is looking for a six month old baby girl or
(36:58):
twins to be feature an extra on Dead City season three,
filming in and around the Boston area. Uh. If that
sounds like a little baby in your family and you'd
like that opportunity. They're looking for a baby with olive skin,
dark hair. Uh, send a picture, the child's age, the
(37:20):
parents information to extras at Kendall Cooper Casting dot com.
Dead City season three is going to be filming through
December in our area, so that is a wonderful thing
to get on board with. Kendall Cooper dot com Kendall
Cooper casting dot com if you want to get uh,
send your information to be booked on background for that.
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Boston Casting handling a number of big productions in the area. Recently,
Cheese Steak that they're working on with Mark Wahlberg is
wrapping up soon. Guys. I think there's just another week
or two for background. So if you want to get
on board with that, Bostoncasting dot Com to get on
(38:03):
Cheese Steak. We're happy to learn that Flashlight, the next
season of Flashlight is going to be returning to our
area in the spring. In the spring to resume filming
on that show. That's really exciting. And Boston Casting also
looking for true stories about love, heartbreak, a special person
(38:27):
in the family, Friends, Pets, First Loves for something called
look of Love. If you have a beautiful love story
to share, they would like your name, contact information. You
to shoot a two minute introductor year video about your
story and send that to Boston Casting Stories at gmail
(38:50):
dot com with the subject love stories.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
All Right, we gotta love that as well, and gotta
love everybody who tuned in for this week's episode of
The Hull on Hollywood. Be sure to join us maybe
next week as we bring you more topics of latest
developments in the film industry, especially here in New England.
So maybe some movie reviews. Maybe I'll talk more about
Letho Weapon four? Maybe should should there be a Letho
(39:14):
wepon five? Should there be a reboot of Letho Weapon?
Oh god, I'm going all out on this series again.
Let's see and uh yeah, Jamie, where can people find us?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
They can find us on Facebook, on YouTube, on Instagram,
on many of the other social media's. Just look us
up a hub on Hollywood you'll find us let's talk,
let's chat. Help us by following, liking, subscribing. It really
helps us to keep going, keep bringing you these great
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movie reviews Massachusetts and New England film news, and fantastic
interviews a few. We have great interviews coming up down
the line, so stay tuned for that. And James, I
just wanted to give one last shot out. I know
we normally talk about things that we're watching, something that
you should watch, that you know as soon as I
(40:10):
I'm not working as much as I am right now,
I'm gonna go watch The Diplomat season three on Netflix
right now, Starring a very good friend of mine from
high school, also a friend of the show, Christian Ochoa Lavenia.
He plays a character called Ulysses, who is a secret
service agent opposite of Carrie Russell and just so unbelievably
(40:38):
thrilled for him, and he talked about working with Carrie,
calling her the kindest, humblest, funniest savage of an actor.
We are very proud of Chris and everything that he's accomplished.
And way to go man. So check out The Diplomat
(40:59):
season three.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
He is ulysses excellent and excellent. We will keep an
eye out for that and all of our other talents
here in the New England region. But Jamie really really
really fun, jam packed episode this week. Just for this
week episode, I'm James, I'm Jamie.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Do we see you then? Adio
This is the Hub on Hollywood and iHeartRadio Podcast. Thank
you very much for joining us this week. I am
your co host, James Rojas.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm your other co host, Jamie Blanco.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
On this episode, it's back to the theaters for many
classic and recent hit films. A Marvel actor slamming the
use of artificial intelligence and the idea of getting rid
of hundreds of background actors. Adam Driver just can't let
the Past die? And Austin Butler and Michael B. Jordan
Are they the next Buddy cop duo? It looks like it.
(00:43):
But first, Jamie, let me ask you a question. Okay,
when you're at a restaurant, When you're at a restaurant
and and you're waiting for your meal, you know, you know,
you may see waiters walking by with dishes and trays
and you think, oh, is that on mine? Oh no,
that was not mine. I was passing by. Oh that
was not mine either. But there's one dish that you
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cannot ignore and you cannot mistake to be yours or not,
and that is the infamous fajitas. James, have you heard
of fahida envy?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I have not heard of envy, but I have been
envious of fijidas before.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That is exactly what I'm talking about. So fadida envy
for those who are not familiar, if you haven't been
to a restaurant that offers like this kind of Mexican
Spanish dish, but it's basically the loudest dish in recorded
history when when waiters come out of the kitchen and
there is a sizzling steaming plate that this waiter is carrying,
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wafting all throughout the restaurant as it passes by your table,
onto the table right next to you, and that sizzling
sound is the root cause for what is considered fajita envy,
which causes people to turn their heads, jerk their heads back, listen, smell,
and hear that party passing right by them, and then
think to themselves, man, I should have ordered fijidas.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, yeah, yeah with it. I'm I'm on board.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Have you ever had that fijida envy in in a restaurant?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I feel like every time I go to a restaurant
and I don't order fididas and I see it go by,
I regret it instantly. I'm like, look at it. It's delicious,
it's hot, it's sizzling, The cheese is melting right in
front of you. The oh my god, there's like onions
and other veggies, and the nicely browned meat, like just
(02:35):
perfectly cooked, and the rice and the beans and the
I mean basically, if it's on the menu, really, why
are you ordering anything else?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
But what if I told you, Jamie, that that fajida
is a lie?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yes? What do you mean? So people on social media
have been sharing the secrets of the fajida and it's
not you know, you what you imagine? What do you
imagine a fijida? So like you know, it comes out
on that really really hot iron skillet and you're made
to believe that they cooked it all on that skillet
and it's coming out and it's just sizzling and bursting
(03:12):
with flavor. And the flavor is there, don't get me wrong,
that is there, But that sizzle, that sizzle is a lie.
It's a fake because what they do is they cook
the food and then they put it on an extremely
hot iron, you know, a cast iron plate, and then
they just dump water, They spray water or what they
(03:34):
call sizzle juice sometimes on the fijeto right before they
take it out. So hence all that water is evaporating
and that's what's creating that sizzle, not the food.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's all a l'ames. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Information from These are people, These are the These are
the folks behind the behind the front lines, the back
of the house, the cooks, the waiters. They're revealing the
secret on social media and yeah, it's it's all marketing.
It's all a ploy and it's working.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
This is not acceptable. This is so what you're saying
is this is like instead of movie magic, it's like
restaurant magic. There. It's it's fake, right, it's not really happening,
but they're making it look and sound real.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
The imagination, yeah, just like a movie. It's your imagination
that's filling the gaps, that's really buying into this and
then tasting the flavor of the heat. But let me
ask you, Jamie, because that got me thinking. You know,
more and more movie theaters are introducing meals into the
theater going experience while you're watching the film. I think
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the fahida. I dare a movie theater to introduce the
fahida as one of their menus options that you could
bring into the theater with you. Because I think that
would be the most hilarious thing. Either you yourself walking
in with a with a steaming hot hype in loud,
(05:01):
very smelly you know, you know, you know it's smell
as well, smells good, but a very loud dish. Walking
into a qui movie theater and taking your seat, finding
your seat, sitting down and just going in town. Or
even better yet, when the when the theater employees, they're
the ones that bring you the food during like a
during a very pivotal moment in the film, you'll order
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the fahetas and they come in and they're steaming, filling
up the entire place.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I think that would work in certain settings. Maybe maybe,
As you know, I'm a fan of the chain Chunkies,
which is like a restaurant movie theater where it's just
long tables and big chairs and it's family friendly and
it's it's that people walking in and out with their
food all throughout. That might be the only setting I
(05:50):
feel like, were you get away with that? I don't
I don't need a sizzling feta in the middle of
a dramatic moment and you like it in the middle
of an MCU movie or something.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Like that add to the aura, I think and plus,
but I do agree. I do agree that it may
lead to chaos because, as I said, fahiita envy is
a real thing. So you have one person ordering the
fahidas and that comes in, everybody turns their head. They
are listening, they're smelling, they're becoming more envious, and then
they're like, you know what, let me order the fidos
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and then Eoventually you have twenty fahidas storming into the
movie theater. You know, you can't see past the steam.
People are are passing out from both the smelly goodness
and the full belly of meat and onions and all
that other stuff that goes along with it. So that
could lead to chaos.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I think that you should write a short film about.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Just this, and I'm gonna pay this. I'm I think
can nail this.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
All right, I agree, I agree. But the one food
that I know that absolute needs to return immediately, this
very second, James, can you guess, of course, absolutely, the
curly fries need to come back. I'm still waiting, AMC.
I'm still waiting.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I'm set in my.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Seat in the theater, waiting for my curly Fries. Okay,
and I'd like them hot and steaming. Please.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The fa my nickname in high school. Well, you know
what is not coming to a movie theater near or
what is rather coming to a movie theater near you.
It's not the Fajitas. But it's some classic films that
are standing the test of time. And speaking of time,
one of them is Back to the Future celebrating its
fortieth fortieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I'm gonna pretend you didn't say that. I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, Back to the Future coming back on October thirty
first to select theaters, and I believe it's at AMC
where they are making available beloved and possibly priceless delor
in a popcorn bucket.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh, my goodness, is a corn bucket take you back
to the future.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
It'll take you back somewhere. It'll take you back somewhere.
It's a good times to better times. But that's a
great film and it's going to be appearing again the
AMC theaters and other places. So I haven't seen that film.
I've watched it a million times, but never on the
big screen. So if there's any time to do it,
now is the time for me to go watch this.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I really enjoy that they bring back these films so
that the next generation can enjoy it the way that
it was enjoyed originally, in that you know, beautiful communal
space with the giant screen and everyone together, because there
are lots of people that are younger and never got
the chance, right. And this is not the only big
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famous film that is coming back to the theaters this weekend.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I mean there's a bunch, right yeah. So we have
Sinners coming back, one of my favorite films of the year,
if not my favorite film of the year, Sinners coming
back to theaters October thirtieth and November fifth. Perfect timing
because they just announced that Sinners submitted two original songs
for Oscars this year, and it needs to win all
the Oscars. It needs to win all the prizes because,
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as I mentioned, possibly the best film of the year.
Another film that is on Netflix but is coming back
for another round in theaters is K Pop Demon Hunters
just in time for Halloween. Coming on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
All right, this is a single look they keep bringing
K Pop Demon Hunters back to the theaters. After the
Netflix CEO you know, went on his multiple rants about
how movie theaters are dead and everybody wants to just
see things at home, and like right, and had been
going back and forth and the theater CEOs were sniping
(09:50):
with the streaming CEOs, and now that there's money in
it for both of them, they're just so chummy together,
right and letting this happen. But I love love, love
love love Kate Pop, Demon Hunters, all of their songs,
they're going up up. It's the ever moment. Oh my god.
So I appreciate that there's another opportunity to take my
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kids to the theaters to watch it, because they are
absolutely obsessed. But it's not the only musical that you
can go and see in theaters this week, James. Not
the thirtieth anniversary, not the fortieth, but the fiftieth anniversary
of Rocky Horror Picture Show in time for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, but you know what, this movie has never really
left theaters, like it's always constantly playing at midnight showings
all across the country. This is just another friendly reminder
to go watch it in theaters. This is one movie, Jamie,
you should not take your kids to go watch. One
musical you should not take your kids to go watch,
just not yet. Eventually, Yeah, it's a great film. The beloved, fantastic,
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talented Tim Kerr starring in that film, and he also
stars in another film which isn't back in theaters, but
is just another reminder. Fortieth anniversary of Clue. If you
have not watched this film, go watch Clue. It is
one of my favorite. I wouldn't say, you know, top
ten movies, but it's one of my movies from childhood
(11:20):
that I've watched many times and has filled with so
many great characters and actors that I can't help myself
but watch it anytime it's on TV or it's streaming anywhere.
But fortieth anniversary of Clue. As I mentioned Tim Curry,
he is out with a new memoir called Vagabond, which
I purchased and it has finally arrived to my house
(11:41):
in book form. I'm getting rid of all my digital
digital books and whatnot. I'm still keeping him, but I'm not.
I'm buying physical stuff now, Jamie, just like my DVDs.
But I'm really excited to get into that memoir again
by Tim Curry. As you may remember, he suffered a
stroke over ten years ago and it's taken him such
a long time to be able to speak and regain
(12:03):
his speech, and he was recently interviewed talking about the memoir,
and I'm so happy to see how well he has improved.
He's still wheelchair bound, but you can still tell that
he is sharp as a wit. And and you know,
so happy to see him speaking much clearer and better.
And really can't wait to get into Vagabond.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Wonderful, wonderful, so many options, so many great things to
go and experience this Halloween time in the theater. So god,
ell of Tim Curry so much. And James, what is
it about these movies that makes them so good? I
would argue it's it's the actors, It's the essence. It's
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that humanity that they bring to the screen, right, that
that that special sauce, not sauce, not the not the
But they sizzle anyway, Tim Curry always sizzles. You know
what doesn't sizzle AI? Right, not human not bringing the
(13:06):
secret sauce. And actors are out here fighting for their lives,
fighting for their livelihoods against artificial intelligence. Brian Cranston applauding
changes now to Sorah two's AI policies after people were
(13:29):
just going to town and making deep fakes of actors
likenesses and voices. The No Fakes Act, a federal law
that would ban non consensual digital replicas. Sag after is
making the passage of this law one of their highest priorities,
(13:53):
and open AI is actually with it. They are in support.
They say they are deeply committed to protecting performers from
the misappropriation of their likenesses. And this is something that
Brian Cranston has been applauding, that he has been fighting for,
is something that the union has been very much concerned about.
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It was one of the big sticking issues when they
were on strike for that extended period of time. And
it's not an issue that is going away. James, No,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And I'm glad you mentioned that. You know, people are
speaking up. Actors are talking about, you know, how this
is affecting their livelihood. And it's not just background actors
who are possibly going to be the most affected, but
you have big A list stars speaking out on their
behalf and one of them is none other than MCU
star simou Leu. He's calling out the use of AI
(14:53):
in Hollywood defending backgrounds. So, you know, the Shark Tank
host Kevin O'Leary, Kevin O'Leary. He's starring in the new
film with Timothy Shallowmy Marty Supreme, and he was recently
quoted talking about how he suggested AI could replace human
extras as a measure to reduce movie budgets. He was
(15:14):
going on by saying, you know, they add as many
as one hundred and fifty extras. They at the stay
awake for eighteen hours, dressed in the background, and you
know they're not necessarily in the movie, but you know
they're moving around, but that you can cut them and
save millions and millions of dollars by using AI. Now,
of course, somebody who's very rich and has connections probably
(15:36):
doesn't have to worry about certain jobs or whatnot. But
these background actors, you know they do. And so it's
so good to see simul Leu speaking out about this.
He tweeted following a comment about the article an article
about the comments, saying, quote, sure, blame the extras making
fifteen to twenty two dollars an hour, struggling to make
a living, and not above the line people making multiple millions. Oh,
(16:00):
you know, it's not the greatest thing in the world,
but it's it's these little things to speak out and
respond to some comments that are you know, I would say,
I don't know, out of touch and the best way
to say, you know, the least controversial way to say it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Very out of touch. And I really appreciate Siemulio coming
out and saying what he had to say, because where
what are the vast majority of acting jobs, James. They
aren't They aren't the lead actors. They are the hundreds
and thousands of background jobs that are there for SAG actors,
for non union actors trying to break in. That is
(16:43):
the bulk of it. That is the vast majority, the vast,
vast majority of acting jobs are in the background. That
is how actors get their experience, break into the union,
work their way up, build their portfolios, and how they
get paid. They're not saving millions and millions of dollars
if they took that away. They're stealing that. They're taking
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that away from the actors. So it is, it's it's
it's it's terrible. It's terrible. And like we, like I
mentioned just a little bit ago, that's one of the
big sticking points that SAG after was UH fighting for.
And it happened here in Boston James when they were
right when they were making I Want to Dance with
(17:28):
Some bad impossible to say without singing the that that
film they captured background actors likenesses because this was during COVID, right,
they needed big, uh background scenes of people in the
audiences and dancing together, and they couldn't really do that
(17:52):
at that time because of social distancing. So they used
that as an excuse to digitally capture background actors and
insert them into the film. What they didn't say, what
they didn't make clear unless you read the fine fine print,
was that once they captured your likeness, they had it forever,
and they were able to recreate you and use you
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to make composites that they would use in other films
for all time.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, and this was not cool.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So we had a performance a performer, Nicole, who was
on with us, who found herself in a film that
she did not film, that she did not participate in,
that she was not paid for without understanding the fine print.
So it's a real danger to actors' jobs, the entire profession.
(18:48):
So it's a relief to hear the not only the
little guys you know, shouting out about it, but the
big guys, the bigger actors, the top of the line,
the above the line, folks who understand that this is
the pipeline, this is the entire industry. The background actors
(19:08):
are not dispensable. They are part of what makes anything
alive that they are making. When you make a film,
the background actors are important. They are the texture. They
are the heartbeat of what makes anything feel like it
is real, it's lived in, it's alive.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, to say that you can replace them, yeah, of
course there are scenes where, like, you know, maybe there's
an explosion, there's a big earth shattering events where you
can't literally have real people there and then, but those
are created by visual effects artists. So yeah, so there's
a time and place for that. But you know, this
isn't the time nor place, or I don't think there
ever will be.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
And James, one last point just for the big guys,
for the A list actors who are afraid of their likenesses.
Just to clarify, Sora Too is now allowing performers to
opt in to have their likenesses used on the platform.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
I don't know why you would.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I don't know why right exactly, but they are tweaking
their platform to give copyright holders and performers greater control
over how their images are used. Again, I don't know
why we would opt in, but at least they're they're
moving in that direction, protecting above the line and below
(20:32):
the line. But guys, we're all part of the line
that makes movies and classics like the ones that we've
been talking about and just everything. So how do you
guys feel about it? How do you guys feel about
AI and the movie industry and television? Let us know
(20:52):
in the comics down below, James, Where can people find us?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, so you can find us everywhere. Of course, we
are on YouTube, so please debscribe, like, follow, join the
conversation down below. You can also listen to us anywhere
you get your podcasts, including iHeart Radio, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
wherever you get your podcasts, we are there. We are
also on social media, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, you know all
(21:16):
that jazz at hub on Hollywood. Give us a like,
give us a follow, and yeah, do that and send
us some money too. Why not? But you know what
we're talking about, opting in, opting out? You know who's
opting out of more more Star Wars contents? Surprisingly, Disney. Disney,
(21:37):
Disney is opting out. I'm just kind of not entirely surprised, honestly,
but you know, it's hard for them to say no
to anything that they think can make money. But maybe
they think this couldn't make money. Jamie, what are we
talking about?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Lord, have mercy? James, Well, you might if you've watched
The Hub on Hollywood. If you know me, perhaps you
might know that I have an affinity for a mister
Adam Driver and a certain a certain character that he
brought to life. Kylo red right disappeared, remember just a touch,
(22:14):
just a just a bit obsessive beyond what's comfortable for
people Luca's film. Uh and and if anybody you know,
if you've watched the sequel trilogies, you know that at
the end of the trilogy, he became Ben Solo again,
was redeemed and disappeared into the Force, which I won't
(22:37):
get into right now.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Did he disappear?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
He did disappear? He does? He does disappear.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I know, I know he dies, but I forgot he
he he disappears, vanishes.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He force vanishes. You know, he saves Ray's life. They embrace,
they kiss, and then he disappears unacceptable, But James, no
one stays dead in the Star Wars universe. No one,
No one stays dead. Right. Lucasfilm reportedly spent over three
million dollars on a complete script for a film that
(23:15):
would have followed Ben Solo after the events of the
sequel trilogy. Uh. It was gonna be called the Hunt
for Ben's Solo. It was something that Adam Driver himself
initiated James as he felt that there was so much
unfinished business with the Kylo Ren character, which I completely
(23:40):
agree with. He was redeemed at the end. If we
didn't get to see him as Ben's Solo, we had
we got like these really short glimpses of how amazing
a character Ben Solo would have been, channeling his father
Hans Solo, giving those cheeky grins and shrugs, but with
the power of the force the charisma of Han Solo.
(24:02):
My god, were we ripped off and could have had
so much more? And more so now discovering how much
more we could have had with the Hump for Ben's Solo,
I'm gonna lose my mind. So this was intended to
have a lower budget than the sequel trilogy inspired by
The Empire Strikes Back, directed by Steven Sodenberg from the
(24:24):
Ocean's Trilogy and Contagion. He was brought on to direct
Really Into the Really in support of this project. He
was behind it one hundred percent. Scott z Burns of
Side Effects wrote the script and the script was in
development for over two years. Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni
(24:46):
both approved it, both loved it. But it was Bob Iger, Okay,
head honcho of Disney himself, who shot down the movie
because James, and here's where I'm gonna get really angry
and then I'll bring you in, Okay, because just went
up and offten. He couldn't understand, he said, it didn't
(25:06):
make sense to him how Ben's solo would still be alive.
This coming from a guy, okay who the only explanation
we got for Palpatine being back was somehow Palpatine's alive. Boom.
That's it. That was all the rationale we got, and
that worked, right. They put that in the movie. Somehow,
(25:30):
somehow he's back. But you know what, but we couldn't
do that for Ben.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Sol suce a man learned from his mistakes. Jamie no,
it was obviously everyone knew that. The whole Palpatine thing.
Oh somehow he came back was atrocious and ridiculous and
dare I say stupid? So like maybe Bobier was like,
you know what, We're not going to do that again.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But here's the thing. There are other ways that Ben
Solo could have come back the World between Worlds, which
has been explored in the animated series before.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
But don't be don't you have to be physical, don't
you have to be living to travel through the world
or the worlds whatever, Or there are.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Ways that he could have been saved by his mother,
by by other Jedi, you know, like there are ways
that would be plausible in universe for his soul to
have made its way, his forced ghost or whatever, to
have made its way to the World between Worlds, to
have been resurrected, and for him to maybe if this
(26:29):
was even a play inside of the World between Worlds
where he explores how to return to Ben's Solo because
here's another way. Okay, Kylo Ren is dead, but Ben
Solo is alive. You know, like this duality of this
man and one of one half of his essence is gone,
but the other remains, and it just needs the love
(26:50):
of Ray to bring him back, because they are two
parts of the same.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Soul, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And there's got to be a way for where to
bring him back. No, don't there's a way.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
To do it, Jamie. What now? How about this? Hear me?
Hear me out? One of the three million dollars is
way too much money to work on a script, no
matter how how long it took. But two maybe, and
hear me out. Maybe the demand just isn't there. Maybe
Star Wars people, a lot of folks who were not
(27:22):
happy with the last trilogy just want to let the
past die just are not interested. And no matter what
you do or who you bring back, it is, it's
you're you're trying to draw water from a well that's
that's too far empty, too far gone. I don't know, Jamie,
Just like Ben.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Solo discovered that you cannot actually let the past die.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Do you think there's demand there? Do you aside from yourself?
Aside from yourself, Jamie, do you think there's actual demand
actually from the general audience? General audience, general audience, because
those are the people that they need to buy tickets
and go watch this film. General audience. Do you think
there is demand?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yes, I do. In Times Square, someone hired a billboard.
They paid thousands of dollars for a billboard that read,
for Adam, no One's ever really gone, Hope lives, Ben
is alive, The Hunt for Ben's Solo. Someone actually rented
out that billboard somebody over the skies of Disney. Was
(28:25):
it Lucasfilms?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
How Driver probably bought that skyrider okay, Adam Driver probably
did that with a banner that.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Said the Hunt for Ben's Solo.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That's one person, Jamie, That's one person who probably bought
those ads.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Me like I have that disposable income. But you the
reason I think that the reason that Adam is coming
forward with this now is because he wants to rally
the troops. He wants to rally the Railos who are
out here. Do you know how many books have been
published and have been smash hits based on the whole
(29:01):
Railo dynamic, on the Ray and Ben's solo dynamic A
ton There is a huge, huge movement that loves Ben
solo that so much and that Ray dynamic. That was
glad to see it come back. And I think that
that's why they're bringing this forward now is to rally
the troops, bring us together, storm the castle, Ben Solo
(29:23):
back to life. Steven Sodenberger himself coming out also and
saying how much he loved this project, hates that it died,
and I don't know, I feel like now it's the
perfect time to breathe new life back into it. And
so we'll see. We will see, James, we will see.
But I'm going to I'm adding my voice to the
(29:45):
fray to bring this back to life. Because Ben Solo
was the beating heart Kylo Ren was the being heart
of that entire sequel trilogy. He was the most interesting
character with the most potential, and I think if they'd
really folk kissed on him and that journey to Ben's Solo,
the sequel trilogy wouldn't have sucked so badly.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
The most potential was Finn. I think that can't be denied.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That can't be denied, right, So tell me how Yeah, right,
right right?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Finn had the most potential, but that is you know,
if he if they come out, Oh we're trying to
get a Finn movie launch, Like I'm done, No one's no,
one's demanding it. Everyone acknowledges he was done wrong. Sure,
maybe Adam Driver's character was done wrong. But I don't.
I don't. I'm on the internet all the time, Jamie,
I don't see it. Maybe this is not in my sphere,
(30:34):
my view.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
But not in the right part of the internet, James,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I don't go down that dark, dark part of the internet. Jamie.
I'll take you.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'll send you links later. I'll send you links later.
What do you think? Do you think that Solo was
done dirty and deserves the right to come back and
be redeemed truly and fully with his own movie post
sequel trilogy, and and and if not, why are you
so wrong? Let us know in the comments down below.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Let us know down below. Well, yeah, yeah, Adam Driver,
Kylo Ren movie not getting the green light. But Jamie,
you know what is getting the green light?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Miami vice, Miami. I can't think of the what's the
what's the show? What's the theme? What's the theme? I
can't help I just have what's it called? What's the
one with Tom Selleck?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Maverick Maverick p I or magnum p I. I have
that song in my head, but no Miami Vice, a
different police investigator, investigatory show.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I have the euro Trip guy stuck in my head.
Miami Vice.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Number one new show, well a number it may be
a number one new movie, but it's in the works.
We have Austin Butler in talks to star in the
Miami Vice reboots. I guess you can say, starring Michael B. Jordan.
Austin Butler would play SONNYE. I know, I know you
(32:06):
play Sonny Crockett in the Universal's upcoming movie, directed by
Joseph Kazinski. Michael B. Jordan was also in talks earlier
to play Miami Undercover detective Ricardo Rico Tubbs, which, yeah,
which is great because I know I'm not a big fan.
I'm not big I never really watched Miami Advice. But
(32:26):
I dig the esthetic, I dig the the you know,
buddy cop movies that we need to bring back, and
so I'm actually excited. They say that this film will
explore nineteen eighties Miami, so we're going back in time
baby a period piece. And after they filmed, this is
expected to have a release of August sixth, twenty twenty seven.
(32:48):
Of course that can change, but I'm down for these
buddy cop movies, so much so that my wife and
I we actually went through all lethal weapon films one, two, three,
and four over the past two weeks. And man, the
eighties and nineties, what a time, what a time for
for movie making and to be buddy cops. But yeah, yeah,
(33:11):
but I.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Austin Butler and Michae wil B Jordan like standing next
to each other, like shirtless on a speedboat, going.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
To be a shirtless but way too hot.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Well, I mean, you know, with a little like buttoned,
like the top button down in the wind. But they're
gonna melt the film.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, it seems gonna catch fire.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Scorching, scorching. That's gonna be amazing. I can't see this
not being number one, you know, if it comes to fruition.
Lots to explore in nineteen eighties Miami, where I was
born and lived through all of the cocaine wars and
(33:54):
everything that happened. Yeah, well, I mean, my last name
is Blanco.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You know, you were a drug king all that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
She was actually Colombian. I'm Cuban, not related, not related,
But still that was that was a hell of a
time to be down there. It was the Heyday of Miami.
Everything down there is built with drug money. People don't realize,
like it's just it's insane, real like a movie.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I think they realize.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh okay, well that's great. But yeah, looking forward, I'm
looking forward to this one because that is just gonna
be oh my god, hot, hot, hot glente.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
My goodness, looking forward to that. And apparently there is
talks that there may be a hocus Pocus three and
one of the original cast members from the first film
is open to appearing in the film. Is that right, Jamie, Oh, yes,
yeah she is.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I don't have it up right now, but.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
She played the littlest, the little.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Play Danny Dennison in the original nineteen ninety three film,
and the there's a lot of controversy because when hocus
Pocus two was announced, you know, more Hocus to Pocus.
When that came out, none of the original cast members
made a return. So yeah, sad to see. But apparently
again I'm not sure if she's been reached out to
(35:17):
and has if anybody has inquired to her directly, but
she says, apparently in an interview recently, that she'd be
super open to the idea of being in the third film.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I think that would be wonderful. I think it would
kind of rectify that that oversight from hocus Pocus two,
and it would bring more jobs back here to New England,
more acting jobs. It would be wonderful to see them
running around filming again here in New England. The original
(35:53):
cast they're down.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Here every year now, Yeah, cast Jason Marsden to Jella
Nick Larry Bagbee, Yeah they now. They they are now
official Salem not technical Salem residents, but practically they're like
Salem celebrities coming down every October for the past several
years to promote, you know, talking about hocus Pocus, kind
(36:16):
of do a meet and greet with fans, sign autographs,
take pictures, party with them. So I was always great
to see them back. Bett Middler, of course are Jessica Parker,
Cathy to Jimmy. They came back for hocus Pocus too.
They have yet to come back to Salem, so we
need to get them down here with the whole cast
and crew again.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
That's amazing. So yes, here's hoping that that comes to fruition,
that we get the original cast back. James, but if
people want to get in the movies right now. There
are a bunch of things filming right now, some things
that are wrapping up soon, so they need to get
on board so really quickly. Kendall Cooper Casting right now
is looking for a six month old baby girl or
(36:58):
twins to be feature an extra on Dead City season three,
filming in and around the Boston area. Uh. If that
sounds like a little baby in your family and you'd
like that opportunity. They're looking for a baby with olive skin,
dark hair. Uh, send a picture, the child's age, the
(37:20):
parents information to extras at Kendall Cooper Casting dot com.
Dead City season three is going to be filming through
December in our area, so that is a wonderful thing
to get on board with. Kendall Cooper dot com Kendall
Cooper casting dot com if you want to get uh,
send your information to be booked on background for that.
(37:43):
Boston Casting handling a number of big productions in the area. Recently,
Cheese Steak that they're working on with Mark Wahlberg is
wrapping up soon. Guys. I think there's just another week
or two for background. So if you want to get
on board with that, Bostoncasting dot Com to get on
(38:03):
Cheese Steak. We're happy to learn that Flashlight, the next
season of Flashlight is going to be returning to our
area in the spring. In the spring to resume filming
on that show. That's really exciting. And Boston Casting also
looking for true stories about love, heartbreak, a special person
(38:27):
in the family, Friends, Pets, First Loves for something called
look of Love. If you have a beautiful love story
to share, they would like your name, contact information. You
to shoot a two minute introductor year video about your
story and send that to Boston Casting Stories at gmail
(38:50):
dot com with the subject love stories.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
All Right, we gotta love that as well, and gotta
love everybody who tuned in for this week's episode of
The Hull on Hollywood. Be sure to join us maybe
next week as we bring you more topics of latest
developments in the film industry, especially here in New England.
So maybe some movie reviews. Maybe I'll talk more about
Letho Weapon four? Maybe should should there be a Letho
(39:14):
wepon five? Should there be a reboot of Letho Weapon?
Oh god, I'm going all out on this series again.
Let's see and uh yeah, Jamie, where can people find us?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
They can find us on Facebook, on YouTube, on Instagram,
on many of the other social media's. Just look us
up a hub on Hollywood you'll find us let's talk,
let's chat. Help us by following, liking, subscribing. It really
helps us to keep going, keep bringing you these great
(39:47):
movie reviews Massachusetts and New England film news, and fantastic
interviews a few. We have great interviews coming up down
the line, so stay tuned for that. And James, I
just wanted to give one last shot out. I know
we normally talk about things that we're watching, something that
you should watch, that you know as soon as I
(40:10):
I'm not working as much as I am right now,
I'm gonna go watch The Diplomat season three on Netflix
right now, Starring a very good friend of mine from
high school, also a friend of the show, Christian Ochoa Lavenia.
He plays a character called Ulysses, who is a secret
service agent opposite of Carrie Russell and just so unbelievably
(40:38):
thrilled for him, and he talked about working with Carrie,
calling her the kindest, humblest, funniest savage of an actor.
We are very proud of Chris and everything that he's accomplished.
And way to go man. So check out The Diplomat
(40:59):
season three.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
He is ulysses excellent and excellent. We will keep an
eye out for that and all of our other talents
here in the New England region. But Jamie really really
really fun, jam packed episode this week. Just for this
week episode, I'm James, I'm Jamie.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Do we see you then? Adio
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