Mark Belling Podcast #92: America is awash in radicalized murderers whose violence is fueled by Democrat rhetoric. A major university says most of its incoming freshmen have grade school level math proficiency. And, Evers' DOC tells nobody about Morgan Geyser's mistake. The "Governor's" response: nothing.

It's hard to say what's worse: whether we are letting unvetted radical Muslims into our country or whether we are allowing leftist hate to radicalize them once they get to the US.  The apathetic DOC slugs didn't bother to tell Morgan Geyser's attacker that the woman who almost killed her had escaped.    And, it's Bears Week in Green Bay in a year in which both teams are contenders.

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One of the good things about everybody in the world
posting on social media is chances are pretty good you're
going to see somebody post exactly what you agree with.
It may take going through hundreds of thousands of them,
but you're likely to find it. In the wake of

(00:43):
the killing of a National guardswoman, I guess you call
them national guardsmen in Washington, DC last week, the following
was posted by Vince Langman posted an X The scariest

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thing about the terrorist attack in Washington, DC is the
fact that I honestly don't know if this guy was
radicalized by Muslim jihadis in Afghanistan or radical democratic politicians
in America. First of all, it's a pretty good question.

(01:27):
Christy nom Homeland Security Secretary, went on the weekend talk
shows and said indications he was radicalized after he got
to the United States. But whether he was or he wasn't,
what's worse, I don't know. We've been ducking this issue,

(01:51):
this fundamental problem for a couple of decades. And it's
not just US, it's Western Europe as well. The number
of terror attacks or acts of violence committed in the
Western world by radical Muslims is overwhelmingly disproportioned to their

(02:13):
numbers and the countries in which they're now living. It's
almost the chicken or the egg argument. Are they radicals
before they get here? Or do they become radicalized after
they're here when they get to their new nations. Do

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they see that their terrorism, their ideas, the radicalism is embraced,
even encouraged, encouraged by one of the major political parties
in our own country. Or are Western nations, in pouring
into their countries people who hate everybody who is in

(03:05):
a Muslim hate any attempt to create an order that
Muslims don't agree with or not, it's a question worth
diving into. In the end, both options are terrible, but
we continue to duck it. We ducked the question in

(03:26):
a country in which we obsessed over January sixth of
twenty twenty one for years an essential non event, an
event in which lots of patriotic Americans went to the
country because they were concerned about whether or not their
election was stolen. A bunch of Democrats deliberately let them

(03:50):
go into the capital just so some trouble could occur
that they could make hay out of. It wasn't a
long term in vdication of anything but the rhetoric you're
seeing from Democrats now and the fact that people again
and again and again and again and again and again
and again are willing to kill. That's part of a pattern.

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of Sarah Beckstrom. His name is Ramanula Lockenwall Afghan refugee

(05:03):
twenty nine. This story is on ABC News. For all
I know the story is true, but it still seems
comical and I think misleading. One of the two members
of the National Guard who were shot in Washington, d C.
On Wednesday has died. US President Donald Trump said. Then,

(05:23):
on Friday, the US Attorney for Washington d C announced
the initial charges of assault against the suspect will be
upgraded to murder in the first degree. And then, and
as investigators continue to delve into what may have motivated
the suspect in the deadly National guardsman shooting last week,

(05:44):
a portrait of a life of the increasingly financial, of
increasing financial stress and a potential mental health crisis has emerged.
Sources familiar told ABC News. No, again, this may be true,
but it's almost comical in nature to report it. The

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reason that these sources are going to stress these things
is that it avoids the larger question. First of all,
just about everybody who does something terrible has any number
of things going wrong in their life. It's never one thing. Secondly,

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increasing financial stress, potential mental health crisis. Do you know
how many people that covers what fifty million? Thankfully we're
not yet at the point of which fifty million of
them are killing patriotic Americans back to the ABC story. Additionally,

(06:52):
multiple sources said that investigators are looking into the impact
of the recent death of an Afghan commander who allegedly
worked with the suspect. The death of the commander, whom
Lockinwall is said to have revered, had deeply saddened the suspect.
Sources said, Oh, that's interesting. All of you who've been

(07:15):
in the military, say your sergeant or a lieutenant that
you admire dies, I'm sure your initial response is to
drive all the way across the country and kill someone
in the National Guard. In other words, this thing may
be true. Maybe he was all upset that this commander died.

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So what you get my point here about missing the point?
And everybody wants to miss the point because they don't
want to confront the real issue, which is, we have
a movement in America that now is including the Democratic Party,
that is fomenting out and out insurrection and violence in
this country. And we have a problem with deeply radicalized

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Muslims who are in this country and can't stand our country,
can't stand England, can't stand France, can't stand anything that
doesn't live according to their violent Muslim principles. Back to
the ABC News story this commander's death, this may have
compounded on Lackenwall's financial burdens, including not being employed, having

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an expired work permit, and allegedly struggling to pay rent
and feed his children. Sources said. Officials said the suspect
has a wife and five children. He drove from his
residence in Washington State to the nation's capital prior to
the shooting and targeted the Guardsmen. Official set, No, that

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requires a lot of determination. That's a long drive, one
of the longest drives you can have in this country.
Watching it at Washington, all the way across the country.
That's a long time for second thoughts in habiting. That's commitment,

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and that's my point. These people are here, they're at
all over the Western world. They're growing in number, and
they're being fueled by members of one of the large

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American political parties. That'd be your Democrats, A senior law
enforcement source told ABC News on Sunday. The investigators are
looking at everything and are closely examining the role of
an apparently deteriorating situation at home. The FBI, Homeland Security,

(09:55):
and intelligence officials are also investigating the possibility that the
attack was directed by or inspired by international terrorists. First
of all, I will be stunned if this wasn't directed
by or inspired by national and international terrorists to what degree,
we don't know. Coming under the influence of people who

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keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again,
or being funded in order to do it. Those are
different degrees, but both would indicate influence. There are reports
that this guy's name had been google searched repeatedly in
the days prior to the attack. Hard to say whether

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or not that's true. If it is true, why were
a lot of other people googling him prior to this
unless there may have been some prior knowledge, which again,
maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. As I said, Homeland
Security Secretary Christinomes said, he was radicalized in the United States. Again,

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I find that believable. I also find it believable that
he was radicalized in Afghanistan. And again, which is worse?
It's the chicken in the egg argument. Is it worse
that Joe Biden allowed thousands of so called refugees that

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come into this country who were radical and dangerous and
had no vetting? And is our refugee program set up
so that people may indeed be refugees but may hate
America even more than the country they're flaying. Or secondly,

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do we have such a toxic environment in this country
that we have all over the place, radical monstrous people
that are training individuals to do terrible things, reinforcing their
attitudes and so on. I don't know what's worse. Maybe

(12:17):
the second one's worse because the first one you could
do something about. President Trump has called a halt to
all refugee relocations at least in the short term, until
we can get a handle out of this. You can
do something about that, stop accepting refugees from anywhere in
the world. It's not a perfect solution, but that does

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address part of the problem. The other problem, it's more profound.
We have six members of the United States Senate, the
seditious sex who have encouraged military members include the National Guard,

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to disobey orders, disobey illegal orders, somebody prone to radicalism.
Here's this, Oh my god, this military here in the
United States, and Trump is sending out. Even the Democrats
say that they need to be stopped. They're dangerous, they're awful.

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In the meantime Color Revolution, very few people have heard
that term. It's the roadmap that's being put up by
the radicals right now. Color Revolution. We heard a whole
lot about the soul called terror threat from Catholics, from MAGA,
from everybody else. Hear the actual threat being downplayed because

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it's real being downplayed by people who I think are
in support of it. General Michael Flynn. It reads as
if the script were lifted straight from a CIA playbook
or overseas regime change using pressure campaigns so obvious now
that even the average American could recognize what's going on.

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One delegitimization campaign against Trump Q framing normal authority as illegitimate.
That's what Mark Kelly and the others in the Siditious
six did. The military is illegitimate, These orders from Trump
are illegitimate, attempting to mobilize military disobedience, attempt to trigger

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defection in the military and intelligence world. Now, the purpose
of all of this is to foment chaos, and out
of chaos, their belief is the American people believes that
the only way to end the chaos is to get
rid of the political force to which the chaos is

(14:57):
reacting to. Okay, just give them what they want in
let the radicals run the country, that we won't have
chaos anymore. For people who say that that won't work.
It sure worked. In twenty twenty, COVID and George Floyd
burn down the country, panic people of aravirus, lock everything down,

(15:19):
create economic disruption. Who won the election as a result
of that cheating? Notwithstanding? The following is from Mark Lucas.
He posts on X and focuses on the denial that

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many Americans have about how radicalized some Muslims are, and
he points out that the people who have had close
contact or are served in Afghanistan, they don't have that
naivete because they saw it first had This is what
Lucas posts when neary Americans cannot comprehend the evil Afghanistan

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war veterans experienced. Afghans were untrustworthy allies who sold their
children to pedophiles, ritually raped little boys, and beat their women.
I deployed to Afghanistan in twenty ten as an infantry
rifle platoon leader. It was the deadliest year of Operation

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Enduring Freedom. I saw radical Islam up close and personal.
There were a couple of women attached to my unit.
They were brave, tough, and blonde haired. They served as
our female engagement team. My soldiers constantly protected them from
local Afghans. These sick men would linger around our foot patrols.

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They had zero respect for these women. They would have
beaten and raped them if given the chance. As a
platoon leader, one of my main duties was to conduct
key leader engagement with local Afghan leaders. During these meetings,
cute little boys would serve us tea. These boys were

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sold into slavery and sexually abused by these sick older men.
My local Afghan interpreter sympathized with these children. He told
me their parents would sell them into slavery in exchange
for educational opportunities. He proudly said, some of these boys
would return to murder their parents. My combat experienced open

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my eyes to how incompatible Islam is with American values.
Number of other posts on X dealing with the fueling
of all of this by Democrat politicians before I read them.

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Let's do a float chart here. The point men, the
trigger men. They are easily influenced people like, for example,
the shooter in Butler, Pennsylvania, the shooter of Charlie Kirk,
or the radicalized Muslim who traveled from Washington State to Washington,
DC to kill a guardsman. They're the ones that are

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the trigger people. How do you get them to do it?
You have to fill their heads with ideas that allow
them to think they're doing the right thing. As I've
been telling you forever, rationalization is the second strongest human drive.
You can rationalize anything. You can rationalize killing a twenty

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year old woman serving as a National guardsman. You can
do anything. You can rationalize killing Charlie Kirk, You can
rationalize killing Trump, and it's sure easy to rationalize it
with all sorts of people. Inofficial positions of authority kind
of seem to be telling you it's okay. This from

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Carolyn Downey. If you demonize National guardsmen on national TV
and say that their deployment to combat DC crime is
a fascist enterprise, some lunatics are going to take you seriously. Indeed,
this is me now and on her. How many times

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have you heard prominent American Democrats say that the National
Guard deployment of the major cities, including DC, was fascist.
You can say that they were engaging in hyperbole. You
say it or not, a lot of people bought into it. Andyvity,

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You've got fascists out there patrolling American straits. Maybe you
ought to do something about it. This is Ezra Cohen,
former Intel official. When lawmakers imply publicly that members of
the military are engaged in illegal activity, it is foreseeable

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that violence against the military will take place again. Isn't
it logical? It's six Democratic senators out there saying that
the military is acting illegally. Somebody who hears that is
in a reach in a country of three hundred million
plus people, that somebody's going to hear that and think

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that they ought to do something about it. Evidently not.
This is Brian Dean Wright. He's an EXCIA ops officer.
Democrats weren't joking when they said we're at war. Their
incitement leads to blood, the sedition leads to chaos. They

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know exactly what they're doing. Let me throw out a
provocative thought. You saw in the wake of Charlie Kirk,
the open happiness from so many people on the left
in this country, how many of them were also happy
that a guardsman was murdered in Washington, DC. You certainly

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didn't see as many of them going on x and
posting their glee, But you wonder they seem rather unbothered.
They were certainly born bothered. By January sixth, Elon Musk.

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When will democrats in the media be held accountable for
the hate and violence that they formit for ment This
is Musk falsely labeling violent people as fascist or Nazi
should be treated as incitement to murder. Look at the
number of people who are simply right of center, work

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for the government, support Trump whatever. How many of them
have been called fascist and Nazis. The vast majority of
these people have been called fascist. The Nazis are simply
patriotic people. They are not violent people. But they're being
called these terms. And now they're being killed right and left,
from the prominent Charlie Kirk to an attempt to kill

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the most prominent Trump to now simply an American in uniform.
This is again happening all over the place, and there
is zero reason to think that it's going to stop.
It's being fueled by people who don't back off, because,
as I say, they evidently are happy this is going on,

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or they would back off. Now, let's focus on the
problem of us importing potential terrorists into the United States again.
I go back to my question of what's worse the

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fact that we're offering the welcome matt to people with
no vetting at all, many of whom may hate our
way of life and want to violently do something about it. Problem,
as I say, plaguing all of Western Europe, and then
the problem of the fact that we are culturally preaching
from nearly half the country this level of hatred and

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justification of terrible violence. You can debate forever which is worse.
Josh Howley, Senator from Missouri, he's obtained emails that show
that quote. The Biden administration ordered them to fill up
planes with Afghan refugees even without vetting them. Lemme Interjeck.

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You'll recall that the whole Biden bug out of Afghanistan
from Afghanistan was unbelievably rushed. We left all of our
weapons out back there. Who knows which people we left
behind that should have gotten out, so who they were
getting throwing them onto planes. There was nothing organized about

(24:26):
this at all. Everything about Operation bug Out from Biden
has turned out to be a nightmare, and for no reason.
We're in Afghanistan for ten years. We didn't need to
get out in ten minutes. We could have gotten out correctly,
except the president was seen now that his administration was

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run by radicals who didn't give a crap what happened.
They didn't give a crap what happened in Afghanistan, and
they didn't give a crap, But what would happen in
the United States? Back to the relations. Troops on the
ground said they were shocked by Biden's failure to vent

(25:12):
these Afghans before bringing them into our country. As I mentioned,
Trump is now put a temporary halt on all immigration
proceedings from Afghanistan. We must now re examine every single
alien who's entered our country from Afghanistan under Biden, and

(25:35):
we must take all necessary measures to ensure the removal
of any alien from any country who does not belong
here or add benefit to our country. For several years now,
Republican lawmakers have been warning of security risks of Biden

(25:56):
era Afghan resettlement programs like the one that was used
by the National Guard shooter. He went through a resettlement
program in a sane country. That resettlement program would include
civics lessons, teachings about the United States, teaching about the
essential goodness of a country that was giving him refuge

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so he could get out of the god forsaken hell
hole that he was living in. Instead what went on there?
Who gets these contracts? If indeed Christinoma's right, and this
guy came over here and he wasn't all that bad
and he turned into this Who did all that? Elisa Slotkin,

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United States senator Democrat. A week ago Sunday, eight days ago,
she went on TV and said National guardsmen were going
to start shooting at American citizens. That's what she said.
This is before the attack in Washington. Slotkin said the
National Guard was going to shoot an American citizens. This
is the rhetoric you're getting from democratic politicians. Several days later,

(27:12):
a National guardsman is shot at. Now, let's imagine that
you're not one of these unhinged lefties that'll just say anything,
say anything. Trump's issuing illegal orders, The National Guard is

(27:33):
going to go into these cities and kill Americans. Let's
say you're just saying that, and you know it's crap,
but you're saying it for a purpose. You don't think
anybody might believe you. Look how dumb so many many
people left of center in this country are, and look

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at how easily prone to radicalism. Some Muslims eye, that's
not new, and it's not an indictment of all Muslims.
I'm referring to those that are radicalized and refuse to
accept living in a multicultural, multi religious society. And the

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fact of the matter is set many Muslims simply do
not accept living in that kind of society. Those that
do aren't much of a problem. Those that don't have
a problem. So you fuel this and then something like
this happens and you keep fueling it. That must mean

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you want it to happen, or you wouldn't keep fueling it.
Alyssa socking National Guard is going to go into these
cities and they're gonna be shooting American citizens. Two guardsmen
have now been wounded after being shot on the streets
of DC. Imagine you're somebody who believed the LISSI Slacken

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and what was going on in the heads of this
lockenwall guy, again, probably a lot of things, but he
will if you believed the list of slocked that these
guards when they're going to be shooting Americans, maybe he
felt that he had a duty to go kill them.

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You can try to disconnect these things all you want,
but if you do, you're ignoring a terrifying reality. I'm
going to change the subject. One of my favorite topics is.
First of all, there aren't many things that make old
farts feel superior. I mean, after all, we're old farts.

(29:49):
Well we are you Well you say for yourself, you're
more decrepit than I am. Yeah, I mean you are
more decrepit than me. You shake your head and deny
being more decrepit than me. You just refuse to accept
the downside of your old fartedness. That's just all over
the evidence of which is all over the place. There

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isn't a lot of opportunity for old farts to feel superior,
but there are some. For instance, most of us know
how to do math. This column appears by Alyssa Finleiots
in the Wall Street Journal today and this podcast is
being released on Monday. Now, this is one of those

(30:31):
things in which everybody knows why it's going on. I'm
going to report what it is that she's saying is
going on, and inner column she kind of alludes to
the rationalization and the defense of the fact that it's
going on. She writes, kids in elementary school learn or
are supposed to learn, how to add fractions and round numbers.

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By the way, that's one of those things that every
kid when I was a kid learned. I'm sure quite
a few have forgotten because they've never really had to
do it. And this is going to be the defense
from all of the people now who don't know how
to do Why will I ever need to do it?
I'll get to that in a moment. There were all
these things about what grade you're supposed to learn something by,

(31:16):
and I'm actually pretty good at remembering what year they
taught us what stuff in grade school. For a lot
of people, it all blends together. I think fractions were
the fourth grade. It might have been earlier, but I
think I'm not exactly positive. Rounding numbers, I don't know

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second grade third grade numbers ninety seven, round it up
to the nearest head second third grade you learned that
would be one hundred and not down to ninety because
the seven is closer to the one hundred than the
other way around. I don't know. Anyway, back to her column,

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kids in elementary school learned or supposed to learn how
to add fractions in round numbers. I get the round
number thing adding fractions. I can get why some people
nomber you got to take the get a common denominator
and added up at the bottom and then so on.
But the rounding numbers, I honestly thought everybody who want

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to do that? Paul said, they asked her to drive through,
do you have to round up? What if they didn't
say up? What if they just said round And in
the case of round, that would normally mean up if
it's over fifty, and down if it's below fifty. But
they say round up, so that means I guess people

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would kind of figure out what that would be. And
the reason that they say round up is that would
mean that they would take three eleven and turn it
to four rather than roud it. But again, it's just
something you just kind of thought everybody knew, because that
actually doesn't even require a skill. Five is half between
zero and ten. You know, fifty one is above forty
nine is below fifties on the dot, what do you

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do with fifty? It's well, no, how do you're rounded?
There's probably any answer to that. I think fifty is rounded.
I think fifty is rounded up, right than rounded. Doubt anyway,
Apparently this is something that we teach in elementary school.
Getting back to the piece, but many students at the
University of California, San Diego by the way, that's actually

(33:29):
considered to be a pretty good school. A top public
university ranks six nationally by US News and World Report
can't do either. According to a new analysis from the university.
So this is from the university itself. University of California,
San Diego says most of their students when they come
in can't do that read and weep for the future

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of America. Roughly one in eight freshmen lack This is
freshman in college lack rudimentary high school math skills, defined
as geometry, algebra, and algebra two. It gets worse. Students
who had been placed in a remedial high school math
class in twenty twenty three had roughly fifth grade level abilities.

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Only thirty nine percent could correctly round the number three
hundred seventy four thousand, five hundred and eighteen to the
nearest hundred That would be three hundred and seventy four thousand,
five hundred because the nearest hundred would be five hundred,
because the eighteen comes after that, only thirty nine percent

(34:33):
could do that. They're in freshmen in college because so
many incoming students were numerically illiterate. The university added a
remedial class for middle and elementary school math. Think about this.
This is a major amrket University University of California, San Diego.

(34:54):
They're adding a remedial elementary class for college for elementary
math class for college freshmen. These are the freshmen who
are actually going to college. Back to the piece, Remarkably,
among students placed into that math course, ninety four percent
had completed an advanced math class in high school. So

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all that's because a lot of kids don't take any math.
You know, math is often an optional course. You may
require one year on math in high school. They said,
most of these students actually took an advanced math class.
Is this an indictment of A? The University of California's
admissions B public K through twelve schools, c US News

(35:38):
and World Reports, college rankings, or D all of the above.
If you chose D, you're correct. Start with A. The
UC Board of Regents in twenty twenty scrapped standardized tests
as an admissions requirement under the guise of promoting equity.
The likely real reason Blacks and Hispanic students score lower
on average on the SAT, requiring applicants to submit standard

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test scores could also make it easier for critics to
prove the university is proving racial preferences, which were prohibited
by a nineteen ninety six voter referendum. The Math Proficiency
analysis suggests it may be doing so on the sly
amid a push to boost diversity and overall enrollment and
thus rake in more government aid. You see, San Diego

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admitted increasing numbers of unqualified applicants from low income high schools.
In order to holistically admit a diverse and representative class,
we need to admit students who may be at a
higher risk of not succeeding. The report says this hit.
By the way, what you've just heard here was the
defense of all THEI back to the piece. This has

(36:43):
done a grave disservice to ill prepared students. Not let
me pause. This is where she's right. And I've been
arguing this point forever. Promoting somebody to anything for which
they are not qualified is not doing them a favor.
If I had some cloud or in or pull, and

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I was able to be sent to Harvard when I
came out of high schoolhold have been out of favor.
I wasn't the greatest student in the world. I probably
would have bombed out at Harvard. There's a reason God
created UW Lacrosse. It was for people like me. Giving

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someone something for which they are not qualified merely guarantees
that they will fail at that thing. What favor have
they done? Have you done them? And what good comes
out of it? This is not only an indictment of
college admissions, it's an indictment of pushing too many kids

(37:50):
toward college. No. I'll make the point that some of
these mass kills would be things that would be required
of almost any functioning person, including a whole lot of
jobs that wouldn't wire college education. But let's move forward here.
This has done a grave disservice to ill prepared students,
who take longer to complete degrees and thus accrew more
debt and drop out of more rigorous majors. Few, if

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any students who take remedial maths successfully complete and engineering degree.
The report notes, what a surprise. If they have to
put them in a remedial this and remedial that, chances
are they're not going to graduate from anything that's tough
after all, because they shouldn't have been in college of
the first list, because they didn't learn enough before they
got to college, which gets back to the problem of
the K through twelve. Why haven't they learned enough? The

(38:35):
university's admissions place a heavy emphasis on GPAs. You maybe
call my the segment that I did last week that
more than half the kids at Arbor get a's. Will
you think the same thing isn't going on in high school.
So they're giving heavy credence to GPAs, but those don't
reflect student preparation because grades are inflated. I'll also point

(38:56):
out that some public schools, and some private schools for
that matter, give a lot of easyas, So therefore the
GPA of a kid that goes to a cake softy
school may be inflated in comparison to a kid that
went to a school that had properly rigorous deadards. Back
to Finley's column, some students may also cheat their way

(39:16):
to high grades. Smartphones in AI have made it easier
to do so. At the same time, scores on AP
tests have become less dependent marker of merit. That's because
the college board has made the exams easier to pass
to encourage more students to take them and thus rake
in more money from testing fees. The share of students
passing AP exams has soared over the last two decades.

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They want this. Every study that we have would indicate
that over the last two decades, standardized test scores have
gotten worse, Yet the ability to get into advanced placement
courses has gotten easier. To get into advanced placement, they
test you and yeah, okay, you get to go into
the AP course Advanced placement. More kids are getting into them,

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even as the standardized scores are plas again lower the
standards to get more people into something. You're deluding people
into thinking that we have a society of higher achievers.
You're deluding people who are not high achievers into thinking
that they are, and nothing good comes of any of it,
including the person who has given this delusion, who wonders

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all along after they get out of college why they
can't find a job and are out there driving for
door dash because they were given a false impression of
how smart they are. Finley call it vanity grading. Mediocre
students now graduate with top GPAs and AP scores, which

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makes their parents feel better about their kids' public school
and ease political pressures for education reform. Ah, that's a
key tell a pat that your kid is doing well.
They'd rather hear that their kid who isn't doing well
is doing well than be told the truth your kid
isn't doing well. On to answer B, the report says
students have been under served by their prior schooling. No kidding.

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Only twenty two percent of prof graders scored proficient in
math on the National Assessment of Educational Progress last year,
the lowest on record. Think of that twenty two percent
of twelfth graders high school singers granted proficient. Proficient doesn't
mean excel. Proficient means are you are very good at
that skill? Twenty two percent the lowest ever, lowest ever

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when U see San Diego remedial math tutor observed that
some teachers would teach life skills in high school math
class just using calculators, the internet, and prescribed formulas. Classes
didn't teach mathematical thinking. Let me interject, I buy that too.
Part of the reason for this A lot of high

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school math teachers are dopes. Many are not, but a
lot are dopes and are no good at themselves, and
they don't want to do much teaching, so they get
into whole math just like we had whole rating and
understand the concept and use the calculator that the master
the skill, and it's a lot easier than teaching things

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that are hard for these dummy kids that are in
there to actually learn. So the job is now easier
for the hack teacher. One problem is union contracts protect
lousy and lazy teachers, no kidding how long I've I
been argued from that and prevent talented, hard working ones

(42:37):
from being rewarded with higher pay. Meanwhile, some of the
profession's best teachers, highly capable women who entered the profession
when their sex had fewer career options, have been retiring.
Many of their replacements are lacking. Teacher credential programs typically
require only a C plus average in undergrad. With the
pervasive great inflation in college, many young teachers made themselves

(42:59):
own they have fifth grade mass kills. Say you only
need a C plus average in undergrad to get into
the teaching profession, and give her the fact that almost
nobody gets C plus. That means everybody. So how many
of these people that are going into teaching are themselves
not profession answer c Many parents mistakenly consider the US

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News and World Reports rankings as a proxy of colleges prestige,
But the rankings don't reflect the caliber of students the
college admits, nor graduate outcomes that matter. The rankings don't
factor in students standardized test scores for colleges like the
UCS that don't require them. Graduation and retention rates make
up by far the biggest weight in the rankings. Stay

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with this graduation rates and retention rates. So in other words,
the more students that graduate from the college, the more
prestigious the college is. Should it be the opposite. The incentive, therefore,
is for the colleges that pass everybody and get them
all to their four year degrees, even the ones that
should have flamed out in the process. She concludes the column,

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the sum of all of this is a tragedy of
the educational of the education commons. Institutions acting in their
own interests, are debasing America's pool of young human capital.
Heaven help us, Solissa Finley on the Wall Street Journal today.
Now my thought of this, one of the retorts that
you'll get is, well, now that we have calculators in
AI that can add up the fractions and around the numbers,

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from me, why do I have to know how to
do it. It's a fair enough question. There are any
number of things that human beings had to do themselves
that a machine can now do, and therefore the human
being doesn't know how to do it. As an example,
you really don't have to be any good at shoveling

(44:50):
snow anymore, do you. No, you can get a snowblore.
Just talking to somebody yesterday who said he was shoveling snow,
the obvious retort was, why why don't you get a snowblower. No,
this guy didn't have a snowblower. I mean he didn't

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have a snowblower. This is the whole boy, why don't
you have a snowblower? And then there's the whole Well,
there's some things that maybe you'd be my best entry,
and of course, of course that's true until you break
your back, you keel over a heart attack, which happens
all the time we have the kind of wet, heavy
snow that we had over the weekend. Anyway, you get
the point, though. If you have a snowblower, you don't
have to shovel snow. If you have a calculator, you

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don't have to know how to add fractions and some
people will make the point that all of this becomes irrelevant.
Add they're going to probably use the whole AI thing.
Since AI can answer all your questions, why do you
need to know anything? I'm here armed with the answer.
I contend based on an entire lifetime of applying the

(45:58):
skills that I have that knowing the skill makes it
easier to understand what you're doing. I talk all the
time about when you get to a really big number.
People when they hear the number million and billion, they
think the two numbers are the same. Once you get
so many zeros, they can't comprehend her. What's going on?

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What if that happens with all numbers? If you don't
know how to do fractions. If you see a bunch
of things that are fractional in life, do you really
then know how many of them they would add up to?
Unless you have the ability to actually hand out a
do it? You know, you analyze the horse race, you

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got to go through ninety seven million different things. Or
you can use AI, which is out there and a
lot of these AI operations. Pick the horse. You can
just do that and bet the horse. You can do
that and maybe do better than you'd be doing and
if you're out there on your own, but you will
not have learned anything about why horses are going to
be better than others and he's going to be better,

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because unless you go through that actual process, you have
no feel for anything. If you don't, it's certainly true
that you can know about things without knowing how to
do them. I know the horsepower and a lot of cars,
but I have absolutely no idea how to tear apart

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an engine, not as anybody else any where. You can't
even get the plastic cupboards over at the top of
You go to the automiacatic and they just all they
do is they slap the computer on there to tell
them what's going on. Nonetheless, the more you know how
something works, the better grasp you will have of it.
The same is true of all other subjects. Look at

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the number of people who simply don't know anything about
American history. They don't know what led the founders to
come to the United States. They certainly have a skewed
view of the Civil War and the period of self.
They don't know any of these things. And because they
don't know any of the specifics, they were all just
google the answer I'll just have AI tell me the answer.

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They have no actual understanding of it. You know, a
lot of the kids that are homeschooled, they know how
to do all of these things because most of the
parents that are homeschooling are teaching their kids these individual skills.
I suspect one of the reasons that many of them
homeschool is they want to keep their kids away from

(48:29):
the lousy organized schools that don't do these things. And
now this story. Ruben Diego, as a centator from Arizona,
was elected as a halfway moderate. Somebody leaked some texts
that he put out. He said, some people thought they

(48:52):
were friends of mine. They leaked. In other words, he
texted some things that are embarrassing. First of all, don't
trust anybody. Well I texted this. Who know, if you're
anybody that'said anything, don't put it on social media. Don't
text it if you're not willing to stand by it anyway.
This is one of those instances of gayegoh, he's a

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Democrat texting something that clearly is true, but very embarrassing,
particularly if you are a Democrat. You hear about what
he texted. Well, that's my point that you haven't heard
about it. Imagine if what you hear the following. Imagine
if what you're about to hear from me. JD. Vance texted,

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and you'll recall the keat that he got for the
benign comment about the Democratic catwomen, the little catwomen in
the Democratic Party. I get a statement that I think
was essentially true. Right, yeah, well women have four more cats.
Who do you think they disproportioned to they went for
Harris or Trump? Well, you say, of course, I think

(49:57):
Vance's statement about these cats. Again, some people who have
a lot of cats, they may have voted for Trump.
I just think the majority of them did not. Anyway,
here's Reuben Diego's comment. Dem women look like DEM men
and DEM men look like women. He's a Democratic center.

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He said, the Democratic women look like Democratic men, and
the Democratic men they just look like women. Does he say?
I just think that there's an extraordinary martyr truth to this,
But it's kind of embarrassing that he said it. Jonathan Turley,
George Washington law commentator on Fox and many other places,

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as his own blog, points out that almost no media
outlets are covering this story, despite the fact that the
fire more inflammatory comments by jd Vance were plastered everywhere.
He writes, it is not a lack of self awareness.

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Let me pausing, give me some setup. He's focusing here
on why the media is not reporting these statements, gegos
that I suspect most media and the people in the
media actually are offended by because this is like, you know,
it's making fun of democrats. So why is the media
not reporting it? And Turley's point here is that the
media is deliberately not reporting it. Here's his analysis. It

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is not a lack of self awareness. Many in the
media are fully aware of the different treatment afforded those
on the left and the right in such controversies. Let
me pause. So Turley saying the media knows the media
is doing a double standard. Many people in the media
know they hammer someone on the right for something that
they're going to give a pass to for someone on

(51:51):
the left. So he's saying that this notion of well,
they just don't see their own biases. It's crap. Many
know exactly what they're doing with these double standards. Early
as are good. This is not a call for outrage,
but rather the selective outrage continues. Despite falling trust in
the media. Now here's my point. One of the great

(52:12):
questions that I used to get all the time. I
don't get it as much anymore. Why does the media
keep biasing itself to the left As the media, mainstream
media continues to die, why don't they just stop to
save themselves. Now you've seen some of the owners. You know,
CBS has been bought, David Ellison put in Barry Weis
to run CBS News. They're going to try to straighten

(52:32):
things around for self survival. Bezos is trying to redirect
the bias out of the Washington Post. Get that to
the level of ownership. But what about the actual people
in the media. Media is dying. Mainstream media is dying.
Let's imagine you're one of the grunts that's in it.

(52:54):
I have a brilliant analogy. Otherwise, if I didn't think
it was, I mean, I'll go with stuff that isn't brilliant.
But if I have something that's brilliant, I may as
well tell you that it's brilliant. Let's say again, I'm
giving you the setup. You're a regular person in the media,
not in owner or anything. You're just one of these grunts.
You're somebody who saw Gayegos's comment and decided, Okay, I'm

(53:14):
not going to put it on the wires. I'm not
going to do anything about it. You saw Vance's comment
and you got went into an orgasm. You were so
excited to plaster it out there. You're just one of
these grunts at that level. Okay, But you're also ceiling
that you're driving away everyone from the center o right
away from your news organizations. You're all going out of business.

(53:34):
You're laying off reporter's like crazy. You're a subscriber based.
If you're a newspaper's done and nothing. If you're the
ten o'clock news, you you have almost no viewers left,
et cetera. Why don't you stop doing these things that
are driving people away? All right? You want my analogy,

(53:55):
Let's imagine you know somebody, how old are you? Eighty
two fifty nine? All right, that's a perfect age for this.
They're coughing all the time, seem to have lost weight,
and they're still smoking two packs a day. They clearly
know it's bad for him, right, Why don't they stop?

(54:17):
Dah same thing? They know it's bad for them. They're hooked.
They're hooked on their own leftist bias. They don't want
to They enjoy biasing the news. They don't want to stop.
They're addicted to it, even if it challenges their long
term survival. Oh that's brilliant, you see, you you should be.

(54:41):
You are not showing sufficient gratitude for being in the
presence of an absolute genius like me. I admit, I
admit that when I I crow, I could be nauseating.
Don't you think that's sort of amusing to be? I mean,
if you're going to overstate something, why you know, why
just be a little about it. But from a more

(55:02):
legitimate standpoint, If I'm not going to brag about how
smart I am, who's gonna do that fragging? I'm out accounting?
You running around and go home and tell your wife
you won't believe how brilliant Mark was today. Are you
gonna do that? No? And here you are. So therefore
I need to point out to people and underline how brilliant,
the brilliant thea. The point was, it is clear lay

(55:31):
time to take a break on the Mark Belling podcast.
This is the Mark Belling podcast. Wisconsin Right Now conservative
website did some reporting last week in the fallout of
the Morgan Geyser case. We discussed this to some extent

(55:52):
last week. They're just a lot of areas to focus on.
I've got a newspaper column coming out later in the
weekend which I'm going to focus on a different area
than this, and that is the disservice that has been
done to Morgan Geyser and my contention that she's a
victim too, and that's I think something that needs to
be focused on the atrocious level of mental health services

(56:16):
that she's been getting and how, rather than talking her
out of her delusions or delusions, have been reinforced. But
there's also this the unbelievably I won't even say inept,
I'll say apathetic. I'm carrying an apathetic response here and
handling of it by Tony Evers's Department of Corrections. Had

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this happened under a Republican administration, all hell would have
broken loose, and it would have broken loose from the
Republican governor, the Republican president, or whatever it would have been,
because no Republican leader would tolerate the level of incompetence
that you see here. Instead, there isn't that reaction, and
Tony Evers doesn't can anybody for doing anything. Peyton Lutner

(57:05):
is the now young woman who was stabbed decade ago
by Geyser and her court of defendant Wire. Peyton Lutner
was not notified and killed twelve hours after Morgan Geyser
busted out. We know that Morgan is still all screwed up.

(57:30):
There is no reason to have confidence, one way or
another that Morgan isn't so screwed up that she wasn't
gonna go and get that girl that caused these problems
in the first place to work. What would make you
think she still doesn't think that slender Man wants her
to kill Peyton Lutner. Maybe she does, Maybe she does it,
but no one would have any way of knowing that

(57:54):
if someone who tried to kill you any level is released,
you notify them. It's done all the time in any instance,
when people are paroleed or released after the term and
so on. In this case, she's still under the control

(58:16):
of the Department of Corrections. She's had a controlled release
in a halfway house. Nobody told her. Doc took forever
to tell the Madison police, and the Madison police took
forever to tell anybody else. Wisconsin right now points out
that Peyton Lutner found out when the Waukeshaw Connie Die's
office told them, and they did this only immediately after

(58:40):
they were notified by the twelve hours later. This is
a metaphor for the way Morgan I think has been
treated all along, not seriously. I don't think she was
given serious mental health treatment at any point, because if

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she did, she wouldn't still be so messed up. Secondly,
she's in a halfway house. We now hear the people
who are in the halfway house with her, unless she
volunteered at herself, did not know what she did. How
many other people in the halfway house have released attempted murderers,
I don't know. My guess is that most of them
are not. People live on the blocks say they were

(59:23):
terrified to know that you had somebody who tried to
kill somebody living in the halfways. But the way whenever
you put a halfway house in, they always talk about
how safe and nice all of the people in the
halfway house are going to be. They never ever, yeah,
we're gonna have somebody who's murderers are going to be
in here. Attempted murderers et cetera. So here she busts out.
There's a reason why she was in a halfway house
and not released entirely into the streets on her own.

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So she busts out of the halfway house, which in
and of itself is a red flag. She doesn't want
to be in the halfway house. She's out there. She
clearly isn't still she clearly still isn't following the rules.
I mean, here's just certain things that you assume would
happen because you assume that there's common sense, and clearly
when lefties are running things, there is it. You've got
an attempted murderer in a halfway house penning their release.

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They bust out of that. You kind of think, okay,
they're not here. You are a media to contact you.
I mean, look at all the times my phone goes
off because there's an amber alert up by, like Lake Superior.
It's an exaggeration, but I mean, the phone goes off
all the time. It goes off a lot more in Florida.
I don't know if that's because more people disappear in Florida,
if my county is more populous in Florida, I don't
know the answer. Did that. How often is your phone

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go off? It doesn't seem to go off as much
as any It went off a lot this summer, don't
you think? No more than normal. You don't pay any
attention to things. I mean, there are just a lot
of them. I mean then the you know, the thing is,
I know, silence my phone on anything. So I never
heard the phone ringing or anything. Everything silence and so on.

(01:00:52):
But you need to like super silence it to stop
those alerts from going off. The point that I make
is there was nothing like that. There wasn't even regular
notification for twelve hours to this day. We don't know
if Morgan's dangerous. I don't know if she's dangerous. I

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watched the police bodycam video and pose in Illinois. She
seemed like a completely screwed up, shy misfit of a
young woman, completely screwed up, still delusional, unhappy, sad. Does
she still have violence in her I don't know. I

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think anybody does, which is why any proper overseeing of
her would act with caution if she released. So what's
happened since then? How many people has Tony Evers fired? None? None?
I haven't seen a media story where anybody stuck a

(01:01:56):
mic in the face of Evers's doc secretary or for
that matter, Evers ask it about none. None, Leslie Bazie,
the Waukeshaw County District Attorney. No one did contact them,

(01:02:20):
referring to Peyton and her family. I would have expected
the Department of Health Services would have contacted them to
let them know. I was informed yesterday morning, that was
Sunday of last week about Ms. Guiser's escaping from her placement.
She said. Bazie's office victim Witness coordinator immediately contacted the
victim and her family to make sure that they knew

(01:02:40):
about it. They didn't know anything about it. We wanted
to make sure they were safe and had a plan
in place. Now, whenever somebody is released after doing something bad,
you know, we've had, for instance, people have made threats
against prosecutors. They're released and they have to take action.
I mean, some people, a lot of people don't get
life prison sentences for bad things that they do, and

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they may have been a victim. Let's imagine you're somebody
who was a witness against somebody. When they're convicted, they
serve ten years in prison. Were they sitting those whole
ten years saying the first thing I'm gonna do is
I'm going to kill the person or routed me out. Again,
we don't know, which is why you would think that
there would be notification of people so that they would
at least have an awareness level to be prepared for

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something like this. I want to cover another story here
in brief. This is the story that again has gotten
scant attention in the media. The State Supreme Court is
now addressing the issue of the congressional districts in Wisconsin.
This is separate from the state legislative districts that were
redrawn now to bias the demok in favor of the Democrats.

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The congressional districts were not changed. The State Supreme Court
has appointed a panel of judges to essentially redo the
congressional districts. All seven judges on the panel are Democrats. Now,
judges don't run for office on the basis of political affiliation,

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but according to Wisconsin Right Now, every one of the
judges prior to becoming a judge was an activist Democrat.
The vote was five to two. Haggit Or joined the
lefties on the Supreme Court and put it together. This panel.
Here's the list. Julie Geneviez Dane County Judge. By the way,
she's a Dane County judge. That means she's a Lefty.
There are no exceptions to that. But for those of

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you who not bought by that, she was a law
clerk for former State Supreme Court Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson.
She's endorsed liberal justices. Then you have Judge Emily Lanergan
Otagamy County. That's Appleton. She was a Tony Evers appointee,
former criminal defense attorney. She's been a donor to Democratic campaigns.
Judge number three on the Redistrict Committee, Judge Mark sand Is,

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Milwaukee County, Democratic campaign donor endorsed by liberals. Four Judge
David Conway, another judge from Dane County, Tony Evers appointee,
Liberal campaign owner. He prejudged the congressional map case in
writing he's already written a piece saying that the congressional
maps are not properly biased, in fear of them are
too biased for the Republicans. Five Judge Patricia Baker, Portage County.

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That's like Steven's point pointed by Tony Evers endorsed by Democrats. Boy,
we haven't seen one Walker appointee on here on this list.
Six Judge Michael Moran, Marathon County, former Democratic Party county
chair and public defender. So there's your panel. So we
know what the districts are going to do. They're going
to redraw the districts in Wisconsin to pop out and

(01:05:35):
create two more Democratic seats. What this is an example
of and I can't think of a more clear way
to say it than to say it exactly like this.
Judges stopped the Republicans in Texas from redrawing their districts
to favor the Republicans. In Wisconsin, judges are going to

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redraw the districts to favor the Democrats. So you have
one set of judges saying Trump can't do what another
set of judges actually will do themselves. There are no
standards of law or fairness that anyone on the left
is going to apply anymore on all levels. The redistricting thing,

(01:06:20):
especially because that's pure power. Jerrymandering districts to benefit the
Democrats will be allowed. Jerrymandering districts to benefit the Republicans
will not be allowed. The only loser in this is
going to be Gwen Moore. She's the beneficiary of the

(01:06:43):
current pro Republican jerrymandering of districts because they packed all
the Democratic areas of Milwaukee County into one district. Gwen
Moore will never lose election by redrawing these districts. What
they'll do is they'll pull out all these Democratic areas
of Milwaukee and throw them in two district's currently Republican
to try to make them fifty two to forty eight

(01:07:04):
Democrat rather than fifty eight to forty two Republican. This
means that Gwen Moore's district has gone, so the Democrats
may pick up three seats, but the district that she's
had that's been overwhelmingly Democrat may well simply be carved
up into nothingness. As Milwaukee is distributed throughout of all
of southeastern Wisconsin. Put enough Milwaukee here, enough Milwaukee, they're
enough Milwaukee in the other place to flip two or

(01:07:25):
three districts that right now are more Republican over to
the Democratic side, which is one of the By the way,
Pokan is the other one. He represents the Madison area.
They take that district and they take every area that's
Democratic around Madison and slam it all into Mark Polkan's district,
so he wins with seventy five percent of the vote
when he runs for reelection. But that means that all
those Democrats that are in that district, they're not over

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there in the Western Wisconsin district, that they're not in
the first district in the southeast corner of the state.
They're all crammed into this Democratic district, which leaves the
rest of the state. We're a fifty to fifty state,
and the democrascent there for we should have half the
members of the Congress of the half of the murmers
of the House should be Democratic. Except we're not fifty
to fifty in terms of geographic distribution. We're fifty to
fifty because all of Madison is Democratic and a huge

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chunk of Milwaukee is Democratic, and the whole majority of
the rest of the state is predominantly Republicans. So unless
you draw squiggly lines all over the place that has
spersed these Madison area and Milwaukee area Democrats and in
numerous other districts, it's going to be what you get.
There is a disproportioned desire on the part of Democrats
to live close to one another more so than with

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the Republicans. Oh, there's overwhelm. You go into like rural Georgia,
you got ninety percent Republican districts. Just ads in the
middle of the central city of Atlanta you have ninety
percent Democratic districts. But as a whole, the Democratic strongholds
are way more democratic than the Republican strongholds, Which is
why if you look at one of those color coded

(01:08:51):
maps of the United States, red versus blue, whole country's red,
but the specks that are blue are heavily populated areas
where the Democrats pack themselves on top of one another,
one stinky, smelly, bluish mass of Marxist glob Well, you

(01:09:13):
need some infiltration. That's what people like me have to
do that live in overwhelming the democratic areas. What was this?
You stay there, stay away from the rest of us.
The problem with that, of course, is is that now
you're seeing many of these cities elect Marxist mayors, and
this create you know, the problems of the city of
Chicago create terrible problems for the entire United States of America.
As New York City goes to hell and so on.

(01:09:35):
The challenge for the Democrats is is as they all
pack themselves into this to redistrict their states to try
to get more Democratic votes all over the place, and
what they end up having to do to create this
political balance or even political advantage for themselves is draw
strange goofy little weird little lines in which the districts
are not at all contiguous but filter. And you know,

(01:09:57):
you could, for example, draw a district it includes a
portion of the north side of Milwaukee that goes all
the way to Oshkosh, it even Green Bay. It would
be like pencil thin and so on, and you know,
create a bunch of fifty one to forty nine Democratic
districts rather than what it is that we have right now.
You know what week it is, don't you. Paul thinks
he knows what week it is. You won't have to

(01:10:19):
wait long to find out what week it is. On
the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
It's bear Week. I remember when I was a kid,
that was a big week Northeastern Wisconsin Bearwig. You know,
that was before the full merger of the two leagues.
The AFL was still the AFL and then the AFC.

(01:10:40):
Was the AFC, and there wasn't even Inner League play
until the Super Bowl and so on, and the Bears
were always the Packers' greatest rival, and for most of
the fifty five years since then, the Bears have either
been really good while the Packers sucked or vice versa.
There was that period, a couple of periods in there,
for instance, the kil end of five in the early
part of Rogers, that the Bears would occasionally have really

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good seasons the same year that the Packers did, and
that's when they've had well, there's been quite a few
of those years in which in recent times they've been
very very close at level, and this year appears to
be the case. And the way the NFL schedule work,
it's just there are quirks, and one of the quirks
is the Packers play the Bears twice in three weeks.

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They play them this week in Green Bay and two
weeks from Sunday in Chicago. So that would in and
of itself make those games extremely important, but even more
so given the fact that right now the Chicago Bears,
it's hard to say, have the best record in the
National Football Conference. They're the number one seed in the

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Conference thanks to their pounding really at Philadelphia on Friday
during the Thanksgiving Thanksgiving weekend, the Rams lost their game.
The Bears actually have the number one seed right now.
More to the point, with regard to the Packers making
the playoffs, winning the division, all of that's pretty much

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almost certain mathematically to be determined by who wins the
two Packer Bear games. Now, if they split, which is
certainly very possible, the Bears start out a little bit
ahead of Green Bay, then the other games would come
into play. There were some really stupid comments being made
by some of the analysts during the after the Packer win,
in which they talked about the importance of the Packers
winning all of these games that affect the tiebreaker. The

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Packers can't tie anyone because they have that tie, so
the tiebreakers will not come into play, unless even if
they got another tie, they would then have two ties.
The only case in which a tiebreaker would come into
effect is if they tie Dallas for something, because they
don't have that tie. The games are important, however, because
if you beat one of those teams, that's a loss

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for them and a win for use, so it still
swings the standings. So the Packers, if they could beat
the Bears twice, would get a big jump over the Bears,
but it wouldn't affect the tiebreaker unless the go on
throughout the season and get a tie themselves. And I
think I'm not sure. I think the Dallas game was
the only tie this year in the NFL. I don't

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think there's been another tie. Yeah, So, I mean it's
very rare to have a tie where the game goes
through the overtime and there's still a tie. So the Bears,
who statistically are a train wreck, I mean, their defense
is ranked terrible in terms of yardage. Going into this
past weekend, they had been outscored on the season. They

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finally came up with a quality, dominant win. Most of
their wins were come from behind, skate through and somehow
and by two or three points. Here they took out
a big time opponent and really thrashed them. Despite this,
most people believe that the Packers are going to win
on Sunday, and part of the game is ac Green Bay,
which I think home field doesn't count for much of
anything in the NFL anymore. And the Packers passed the

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eye test a little bit better than the Bears. But
you've got a period here in which this great wanted rivalry,
obviously the oldest rivalry in the NFL. Ill's gonna have
two pretty good game, pretty big games on the first
one coming up this weekend in Green Bay. The Packers,
who some people weren't impressed with a few weeks ago,

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now coming off several really good games in a row
they did. You're gonna keep getting injuries. The injury that
they sustained here is pretty big because they had only
one reliable run stopper in the defensive line, and that's
Devonte Wyatt, who took forever to develop into a dominant
players at first round draft choice, and he finally got
to that level and he's done for the season. Other

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than that, though, Green Bay's injury situation is pretty good
at the moment. They're going to get Yeah, Jaden Reid
is going to be back, Watson is back until he
gets hurt again, Dobbs is playing, and they got finally
the spectacular breakout game from on Tavia. So Paul says,

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Golden and Golden starting to bitch. But I mean, most
of the time, you're gonna have three wive receivers on
the field, and when you have five or six healthy,
good ones, the threes that are gonna be on the
field most of the time are the talented ones. Apparently
there's also you know, they're using that play of they
call it what do they call it when they hand
the ball off to the wide receivers. Sometimes they call
it jet sweep, and sometimes they call it reverse. They
say that Goldan's not been if he hasn't adapted the

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timing on that play. And there are, yeah, there's other
guys that were better added, But I mean the history
of the Packers wide receivers is that they all get hurt.
And that means Golden's gonna get his chance again, and
he's going to be out there and he is playing good.
And you know the funny thing about what I've understood
why Wix drops passes. I finally figured it out. You

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know why he drops passes. He's too open. You want
him to catch the ball, have a defender draped all
over his body and have him have to put both
feet down in bounds. He'll pull it in just fine.
You're running around with nobody near him. Easy to score
a bomb for a touch that'll drop the thing right
through his hands, there's actually some there's some there's some
psychology behind all of that. When you're wide open, you know,

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I remember the comment that yeah, Randall Cobb made when
he caught the long bomb from the Packers against the
Bears a decade ago and Soldier Field in the fourth
and sixth play that Rogers through the bomb to and
he was open, and Cobb said, the whole time I
was down there, all I was thinking about was not

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dropping a body catch at anything. Don't drop, don't drop. Well,
when you're in a situation where you're wide open, that's
when the negative thought comes in. When something's really hard
to do, you're thinking positively, I'm gonna go get the ball,
whereas if all you can do it's like all sorts
of things in life. I mean, how can NBA players
who knocked down three point shots all the time miss

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a free throw? Well, there's nobody guarding you. That's when
the negative thought comes into your you're in a well, yeah,
I mean that's just I think that there's an issue
with a Packer receivers not ever great hands. If they
had great hands and they were good at getting opening
all of those things, that all be all for. But anyway,
the Packers and the Bears. I think the Packers are

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better than the Bears, but the Packers I think benefit
from being a little bit better balanced. I don't think
the Packers defense is the best in the league. I
don't think the offense is the best in the league,
but I think that their defense is close to the
top and their offense is in the upper half. The
Bears seem to so far have been disproportionately biased toward
being really really good on offense and not as good

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on defense, with the exception of making turnovers. But now
that's what I'm saying. Their defense gives up a lot
of points in a lot of yards, but they produce
a lot of turnovers. So we go back. I mean,
for the longest time you had the Bears were great,
the Packers sucked, and then the Bears sucked forever, and
the Packers were great. I mean, it's fun to dislike

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the Bears, but it makes it more fun when both
teams are actually good, in the same sense that the
Rower Cup rivalry in recent years has been a lot
of fun because they not only are your arch rival
with an obnoxious fan base and all of that stuff,
but the games had meaning that they were a big
threat against you in your own divisions. Well they will be,
but you know, I don't worry about any of that.

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Just win your games and you're going to see it.
Have a decent enough seed as the thing goes along,
and stay healthy. But there are some games more important
than others. The Packers not affected by the tiebreaker. That's
out of it, but there's still the function of the
standing swing. Two games you win and they lose. If
they win and you lose, it's a two game difference
rather than one, and then they play them the twice.

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In the meantime, I've been right about a lot of
things in football the last two months, but there's one
thing I've been right about for two years that I
said at the time, and I just think I'm vindicated
that the Vikings decision to pick JJ McCarthy in the
first round of the draft was idiotic. He was a
decent quarterback on a team that ran the ball almost
all the time. The Vikings needed the quarterback, and they
reached and they took a guy that should have been
picked in the fifth round in the first round. And

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I at least have been right about that. I mean,
he is he's terrible. The worst quarterback starting quarterback in
the NFL, and I would say even including the teams
that have gone now to backups like Washington, I think
he's I don't think JJ McCarthy is a good backup
in the NFL, right, I think most NFL teams have

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better backups. And again, maybe McCarthy will get better. Younger
quarterbacks do get better. But the people who question and
thought that it was a reach, I think they've been proven.
They've been proven right about that. The other team in
the division that we didn't mention is the Detroit Lions,
and they're still pretty good. But everything that you thought

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might happen did indeed happen. The loss of the two coordinators.
They're less disciplined on offense, and their defense has gotten
a lot worse. Well, you know, the whole Dan Campbell
fourth down thing. I'm glad it's coming back to bite him.
I made this comment I think prior maybe one of
the shows last week, maybe our Football Preview. The problem

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with analytics is analytics looks in the overall and doesn't
deal with a specific situation there. I mean, he always
goes forward and fourth down if you're always going to
do something, you're gonna get a stretch of times I
think it's seven or eight times in a row that
they didn't pick it up. So five to fourth down
plays and the game green Bay went for three and
got all three. Detroit went for two and didn't get

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there two. Everything else in that game was even. Both
teams had zero turnovers, The first down in the yard
age were almost identical across the board. Yet the Packers
won by two scores, and it was those fourth down plays.
A fourth down play. Got to think about it this way.
It's the equivalent of a turnover. Let's imagine you fumble
the ball on third down, the other team recovers, it's
a turnover. Fourth down is the same thing. You get

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the ball where the other team was. It's it's it's
just it's the same as a turnover. And the Packers
essentially had five turnovers to none when you consider the
fourth down situation. All right, that's it for today's podcast.
Back with another one on Wednesday. Bye.

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