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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Do a lot of changing friends. You had a little
park branch outside. I'm gonna beyond me, bring the buildings.
I'm like, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We can't sit out here and smoke on a nice
sunny day. You mean the wind tunnel right, exactly. It's
a wind tunnel between the two buildings. Why they thought
it would be a good idea to put a picnic
table out there's beyond me.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Fix a coffee machine? How about that? Lindsay did fix
it and then broke it again, because I went down
there to try to get me some and they're like,
it's still fucked up.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
How'd you break it? Or how'd you fix it?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Mean?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I just opened up that door and the two little tubes,
I just pushed them down and they clicked in, and
then I shut the door and I.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Made my coffee and it worked fine. And it worked fine. Yeah,
and while an hour later I your jit.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah it's still said, like what what message.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Did it give you? It was clogged or some shit
like that, like.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Something two clogged something pigsprise lends. You can handle the tubes,
no problem. Yeah, listen, when we don't own shit, I
ain't open it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I barely. Don't want to open stuff here.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
No, I don't want that kind of responsibility. There's cameras
in there, and if they comes back more jacked up,
be like Gippy was the last one to touch it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But the check the camera and they're like some radio
person and then we're cut off.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We don't get any more good coffee anymore. How much
do you think that coffee machine is?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh? Ten grand?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I would say at least twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh way more, Lindsey, way more than twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Did you just look it up?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
No, but way, it's gotta be more than two.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'd say minimum five. A good espresso machine is twenty five.
So this looks very similar to that one. It's not
the exact same one. It's ten grand. Yeah, yeah, those
coffee machines are not cheap.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I tried to get water and it wanted to be
like laggy on me. I'm like, I'm not fucking with
this anymore. Okay, bye, I'll drink the regular bottle water
we have upstairs. That peach mango is really good with
the extra electrolytes.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I do the blueberry line, and I think that is.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Boom amazing the shit we did to get like, I mean, also,
it didn't work, and I was fucking pissed, right, fucking
ruined my day? All right, all right, So I think
it's safe to say we've all watched porn. Yes, yeah,
I just did. Okay, Well you've been in front of
(02:43):
me for ten minutes, so yeah, it's a little awkward,
but we've all watched porn, right yeah, yeah. And do
you think yes or no people in porn make good money? No,
some probably, I think much like I think Lindsay's onto
something there. Much like every other career, you've got to
start off at the bottom, so you're not gonna be
(03:05):
making a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But then the.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
More in this case movies, you make, the bigger your
name becomes, the more sought after you are, and then
you could start negotiating and getting some good money. Sure,
I always think that people because people do that, right,
they're like, oh, if you have a name for yourself,
you can't use that's like going Howard Stern is the bar.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, that is the anomaly, right right.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So the people that are really popular, which I wouldn't
even know those people are imporn would be the anomaly. Okay, right,
you're not going to get in to make that much
that money when you first start right.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Right, right, you're Jenna Jamison's of the world, right and
back in the day, right right. That's the only one
I can remember. Yeah, So an article I found.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
This article was from twenty twenty, but they went into
depth and asking people in porn how much they make.
It's super fascinating. So they asked this one porn star,
do you think having the do you think people have
the wrong idea about how much porn stars really make?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And she said, think about it. How many people pay
to watch porn online?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Nobody?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Most don't, so budgets are low. Thinking porn actors are
rich is absurd. Perhaps this misconception has to do with visibility.
We're probably the least paid public figures if you consider
how popular we are. I have one point five million
followers on Instagram, but my income is nowhere near what
an influencer with the.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Same audience makes.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wow, how many scenes do you do a month? She
says she's booked the most when she's between the ages
of twenty two and twenty six. That was the most
she was ever booked, and During that time, she did
about one hundred scenes a year.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wow. Okay, yeah, that's a I don't know if you
do the math.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean once every three days, okay, every three and
a half day, four days. That's as it's a job.
On top of it's a job, you gotta do it. Sorry,
but you only worked three days. He's out of the week.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Fucking car here. And then what expenses do you have?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
She says, there's taxes, then an agency fee that can
be as high as fifteen percent, accommodations if you have
to do it in another city, you have to pay
for tests, so anywhere between two hundred to five hundred
dollars per scene.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Wow, So that's all that they make?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yes, and this person sided making about a thousand dollars
a scene.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Wow, wow, all right?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Worth it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So if you've got to take two dicks at once
and you're only getting two hundred dollars for it, like, ah,
is that really worth it?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right? When I make a name for myself, escorts, I'm
an actor would make more. I would assume it's the same.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's okay, sure prostitution, sure, yeah, this says. This was
a male actor and he was asked what was your
financial expectation when you started working porn? This is a
fantastic guy answer. I didn't have any expectations. I did
it just for fun, right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Because you think you're gonna get all the pussy in the.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
World, says, Beginners don't make a lot of money. You
just reimbursed for your expenses. And there are people who
even pay to be in their shots. Wow, that's there's
a couple of bands that places bands player like the
Troubadour is a famous place in La.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You have to pay to play on that stage. Yeah,
all right, So if you're a.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Band and we played the Troubadour in La, people go, no,
kidd man, that's cool. Yeah, you pay to do that, right,
anybody can do it, right, But you're banking on that
exposure that well, then just saying that putting that on resume, right. Yeah.
Another woman was asked that she because she was a
rising star, and what did you think you'd make before
(06:42):
you started? She says, compensation in porn is definitely lower
than people think. I do it because I like it
and it makes me happy. The more important than the financial.
That's more important to me than the financial. How did
you get your break this part's crazy. I got in
touch with an actor I followed Max Felicitous, and we
(07:03):
started shooting scenes together. The rest fell into place. I
gained visibility, and other productions got in touch with me,
including this famous person that does the Fake Taxi, which
is a reality porn website staging scenes in the back
of a taxi and she's filmed around twenty scenes.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Wow, so she just DMed.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Somebody in the porn was like, hey, let me show
you how good I am.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right, and then that person that's wild.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I think that right there is easier for women
than it is men. I don't see a guy having
that same sort of luck when it comes just sliding
into some famous you know, porn stars dms and like
just become a big after that the guy for the girls.
It's like, well, yeah you want, okay, come on, we'll
make some fucking movies. And then other people in the
(07:53):
industry see it and they're like, yeah, she's she's hot,
she she fucks let's.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Do it again.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah. I could only think and probably Len he can
speak to this more than I can. Even Lindsey gets
people sliding into her dms. I can't imagine if you're
in porn. That's like, you know, a day that ends
in why right, that's just constant where I just assume men.
That isn't common, right, I just assume men there. That's
just maybe it is in the porn world. Maybe so
(08:19):
maybe they just get people like hey, right, right, right?
Maybe you know with with gay man, you know, like, hey,
I like this guy.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He's got a huge slug. Let me see if I can.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
No, that's I think that's that's fair too. I think
women porn though, too. I bet it happens with women
lesbian porn. I bet it happens that way slid into
the female accesses. But I think in the like heterosexual
male female porn, I bet there are some women that
slide in that way. No way near the same number
on the female side, but I bet it happens, oh yeah,
(08:52):
because clearly this woman just that's what that's all she did.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And anybody you know who has the opportunity to be
to say I had sex with the porn star, that's
a pretty big badge to have on there, So is it.
I think some people, I think some people would like
to have that accolade. I think people believe it's a badge.
But I think a lot of people go, don't go man.
I think they go, okay, right, No woman thinks that's
(09:20):
an awesome thing for a guy.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No woman sees a guy and he's like, I had
sex with the porn star. Woman goes, hell, yeah, what's
up right? No, that's strictly for your note guy friends,
you know, your buddies whatever, be like I slept with
this porn star. No way, And maybe women to their
lady friends as well. I don't know, but you're probably right,
you know when you hear that, And I guess you
could say sam thing about you know, a guy, you know,
(09:45):
trying to talk to this gal, she's like, oh, I
slept with Derk Diggler or what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Area like what? Maybe I think that it's like, uh,
because I can't compete with that.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I had a couple of friends that they would sleep
with strippers like they just had that magic mojo.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I don't know, maybe that cocaine, but they just everywhere
we went. Every time we went to a strip club
in the record industry, they would bang.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And I'm always like, how right is it?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like the appalation trail, like you just like, but it's
not awesome at all? Right, right, well, listen, she didn't
have to do the best looking stripper. But you hear
when you think about that, When you hear when your
buddy tells you I slept with a stripper last night.
I totally banged a stripper last night. You automatically imagine
the best looking one, right, and they're not going to
tell you now it was the fucking line cook, right,
(10:33):
or it was a day shifter.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right, You should ask what's her day job? Yeah, exactly
what was her total bring home? Right? Because it's the
appalation trail. Yep, you just get to say you did it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And you think it's either going to be like this
crazy good sex sensual experimentive like whatever picture you paint,
and it might not be awesome at all. It might
be like if you go home with a guy, you
think it's gonna be so good because he's a male stripper,
and yeah, sure, maybe he's willing down, but he's like gee,
(11:08):
like that turtle hump in the shoe. Hey, it could
be that way because guess what he's acting.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes, it's all the same, all the same or he laughs.
It was like the I want to say it was
an Adam Sandler movie where he's like from sasketchat.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right and he's like this puffy guy.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, that's what it was, and you expect him to
be like, hey, what's happening and he's like, hey, you
want to have some high pitched voice. Yeah, that scene
from the Adam Sandler movie with Mrman. And it's just
a funny dynamic because she's doing it for status. She's
she wants to say she banged Merman. Yeah, and he's
(11:55):
doing because he wants to have sex. Well, yeah, she's breathing.
And the agendas are two completely different. And sides of
the Fence is just a fascinating social experiment to be like.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Eh.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The other one on here is they talked to a
veteran in the industry and they asked him because he'd
been in the industry since nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Nine, Wow, and how much has it changed?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
He says, it's completely upside down, not just because of
the Internet at the end of the eighties. In my
early days, the struggle was a real struggle starting out,
but once you started filming, you were in. You worked
for big productions, with famous actors and you could travel
the world. Viagra marked the first financial crisis for the
male porn stars because all of a sudden, hundreds of
budding actors who couldn't perform were able to work and
(12:41):
fees bottomed out. Right, how much did you make in
the nineties A lot? If you were part of a
small circle of actors who could have sex for hours
in front of the cameras. Production companies wanted to sign
you because you were liable. You could make the equivalent
of thirteen thousand dollars a month, even more if you
were at the peak of your career. Wow, And that
(13:02):
makes sense for that time, the eighties, that's when it
was on video. You had to know somebody, or you
had to go to some shady store somewhere, you know,
and wear a trench coat and you know, Fedora glasses
on or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
They asked him, what does he do now?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And he says, I get about anywhere between thousand and
eight hundred dollars a scene, but not very many people
can afford that. So I own my own company and
do shots by myself. So I don't think by himself.
I think, right, Yeah, he gets someone to work, Yeah,
still eight hundred thousand dollars for a scene some bad.
(13:39):
I mean, yes, yes, but you can't equate it to
the best day at work. No, it's eight hundred dollars
for the worst day at work. And I know, hey,
any pizza's good pizza. But that's just not true. Let's
just say, you know, you do one thousand dollars for
one scene. You do those five scenes in a week, right,
(13:59):
you take your Saturdays and Sundays off.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And still you made five grand. You made five grand.
A fuck if that if there were five days.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I think the whole point of the article is that
it isn't right.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It isn't the gold rush right right now?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Of course, yeah, I'm not naive to the fact that
you know, that could be good for one week and
then you might not work for another week or two.
So yeah, you'll have to stretch it out. So I
guess in the grand scheme of things, maybe it's not.
But whatever, take.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Your bike in if you go. This is for everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
If you could go back in time, early twenties and
you meet someone in there in the porn industry and
they're like, you should do porn, would you take that
ticket Lindsey.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
In my early twentieses.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Total eve, like, you don't gi about any of those things.
Family isn't even on the radar.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Right, Probably I probably would have given it a whirl,
assuming the money would have been good.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It would have been beginner money, so it would not
have been good, right, beginning money.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's not. Here's a ten thousand dollars check. Right. Oh,
and here's a bump. Yeah, I may have. I may have. Okay, Gimby,
I knew your answer.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I actually thought about it in my early twenties, right,
because I was born with this Gilda fiss and I'm like,
that would actually I've got a stick. I've got a stick. Now,
I could go and I could be in this right Yeah.
But then kids came along and ruined that plan. Right,
I mean I think there are plenty of people that
have kids that are important.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well now they do.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah. No, I wouldn't have. Really, I just know my limits.
You know, the dog's watching me. I get nervous.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Now you've got a guy with the camera over the shoulder.
Not a guy.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Guys, guys, that's true. People loud noises critiquing. No, I
think you block that out. No, sure, can't. I can't
block when they're drilling out in the back here on
in the yard, out here in the street.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah yeah, I've seen those videos.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah not but in the bedroom. No, I mean even
a dog just staring at you. Right, I'm s a
director telling you move over, sweat less, sweat more? Can
you not breathe as heavy microphon? Your mama sure does
(16:35):
care a lot about your education. Boy.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Scene in Porky's the idea that you get like the
super hot girl, you finally get there, and then she's.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Like hoof, hoof while you're having sex with them, Like
what is happening.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
When you just hurry up and get her done and
you get to say you bang the hot jack.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
She may bark like a.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Dog, but it's okay, Yeah, it's It's like I remember
being twenty twenty something and meeting this girl and going
back to my place and having sex and she was like, I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Want you to pee on me, and I was.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Like, like the record player wound down. I was like,
my brain took off so many thoughts, right, like what's
happened on the game.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I'm not kidding, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, See that's the difference between you and me, because
that was asked the same question.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I'm like, okay, yeah no, because then I'm like, well,
what if I have to do? I have to go.
Have I had enough water?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You should probably get in the bathtob I don't want
to do it here. What are we gonna do after?
I just that's why, that's how I know my limits.
I know I cannot do something like that. I can't
be a part of the I'm going all right, cut hey, carbon,
this is real hairy, right, We're gonna do a side one,
(18:07):
so let us reset the cameras.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Okay, what do I do? The sit on your phone
and you still Facebook night, right, and like do I
stop having sex at that moment?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You have to, but the crowd may leave if you
know what a right? And so let me be in
the theater. See what I'm saying, Like I can't.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's called intermission. They went to go get a hot
dog from the fucking lobby, and in my world, intermission
lasts about a minute.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
At the most.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Don't worry the moment you get up from your seat
and they're turning the lights off and on saying get
back to your seats because we're starting this thing again.
There's no way I can be a part of something
like that at all now working on a production, sure, okay, sure,
being the camera guy or the boom mic operator, yes key, grip,
(19:10):
yeah no, that's the only thing that would get me
like right right. Listen, Deborah called in today her kids
are sick again.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Korb's gonna need you to get in there and flow.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh god, temper, Yeah I don't. That would be my
only fear of being like you get caught in a moment.
You're like, all right, listen, the show must go on.
You put some goddamn lotion on those hands, like.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You get in there and chert that guy off my
favorite quick. It's just a dick, right, you hold one
all the time. What's so different about this time? What's
the big deal? I don't need three hands to hold
on a mine? Sir? And where the Millers? Oh no,
(19:58):
not her right talking to you? You're like, word, Kenny,
get in there, yeah, you get in there and make
out with your sister. God.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, that movie's bizarre on so many levels. You watch
it and you see that they're making out, and you're like,
this feels fine, right, it is fine, But it is
fine they're.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Not related, so fine, No, but then you think about
all the times you've seen family members and go, are
they related?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's step, it's fine, right, yeah, okay, all right, too far.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If you're listening and you were wondering where last week's
podcast is, uh, you may have missed the best podcast
we've ever done. It was amazing and I apparently did
not hit safe. So it's gone forever only for our
three years. And listen, it's out in the universe somewhere.
When you die, you'll find it. Right, Oh, there's the
(21:04):
lost podcast episode. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Are you watching Fallout? Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I haven't watched the last couple of episodes, been a
little busy or whatever. But it's it's it's falling in
line with a lot of the other second seasons.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's not good. It's not good.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
There is a new Game of Thrones series out, okay,
The Night of the Seven a Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If you guys have watched it yet.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I just discovered it because I went on a bit
of a bender because they're playing it. I guess that's
why they're playing all the old Game of Thrones too. Anyway,
so I did watch it. It's little it's a little different.
It's a little different. And the first episode's only like
thirty five minutes, forty minutes. I thought that was really weird.
Goes it starts off weird. You're like, are we already
three quarters.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Of the way this is?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
How is it weird?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Is it like Brother and Sister? No, it takes place
one hundred years before Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Oh so was it?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Like the House Dragon was like two hundred years right
right before. So this is obviously clearly between. And it's
some weird little bald headed powder kid that's involved, you know,
and some lurch ass motherfucking knight who's like kind of weird,
quirky night.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm gonna give it a couple of episodes before I
before I scrap out on it, But like the first one,
I was like, this just doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
This seems weird.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, it's the Start of the Dragons is essentially the
concept behind it, based off his other novels.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
From what I know. Yeah, it's worthily if you're a fan,
it's worth checking into pitt Man Pit's where it's at.
Oh yeah, that's what you're saying. Yeah, this so far
the second season is Solitude. Oh and a good.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I watched over the weekend His and Hers on Netflix.
It's like four episode series, quick, quick, quick, very very good. Uh,
it's it's got one of the the guy that from
The Walking Dead the first season.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
John Burenthal, Yeah awesome, Yes he was.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
He was who was the sheriff's bestie?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah yeah, John b Yeah yeah yeah Rick's wife. Yes,
exactly that guy. Uh yeah, real good.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Him and his his estranged wife separated. And he is
a he's a sheriff detectives in the of the sheriff's
office investigating a murder and the person the murder victim
is someone that he's actually been fucking.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, so it's it's it's a good one.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
John Burnenthal has done some amazing stuff. He's in The
Accountant too, for those that don't know, that's the Ben Affleck.
He's got like autism or somebody's an accountant, but he's
a mafia kid man. And Berenthal is the brother, his
brother that shows up. Okay, yeah, that movie's fantastic. Ford
(24:00):
and Ferrari isn't a great movie, but he's great in it.
Baby Driver, he's great, Baby Driver.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Justice League versus Teen Titans. Oh he's a voice.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Okay, yeah, uh sickarow, Oh my god, that movie's fantastic. Fury,
he's great in obviously Wolf of Wall Street, he's fantastic
in He's great and pretty much everything that he does.
If he's never been a main actor in anything, really, yeah,
he has, you think so yeah, I think everything I've
seen him, and he's always you know, supporting. Well, he
(24:31):
isn't a main one in this, and I think he's
considered a main one in The Accountant too. Okay, Uh,
I'm gonna have to watch this the amateur.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Uh, this has got oh my gosh, what's it?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Romy Malick, Yeah, Lawrence Fishburne, John Bernenthal.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, yeah that looks good too. Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Uh. The Better Sister's pretty good on Amazon if you
haven't seen that. And it's got Jessica Alba and she
her husband dies, is killed, and they arrest her son
for doing it, and then her sister shows up to help,
but she's estranged and also the sister her sister is
(25:16):
also the man who's dead's ex wife. Like it's a
bizarre circle and you're not sure who's the killer, Okay,
and she's cheating on her husband who's now dead, like
everybody is a prime suspect life.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, it's really good, So some good stuff out there. Okay,
that was enough wasting time. You guys have a fantastic
week and we'll talk to you later
Do a lot of changing friends. You had a little
park branch outside. I'm gonna beyond me, bring the buildings.
I'm like, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We can't sit out here and smoke on a nice
sunny day. You mean the wind tunnel right, exactly. It's
a wind tunnel between the two buildings. Why they thought
it would be a good idea to put a picnic
table out there's beyond me.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Fix a coffee machine? How about that? Lindsay did fix
it and then broke it again, because I went down
there to try to get me some and they're like,
it's still fucked up.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
How'd you break it? Or how'd you fix it?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Mean?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I just opened up that door and the two little tubes,
I just pushed them down and they clicked in, and
then I shut the door and I.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Made my coffee and it worked fine. And it worked fine. Yeah,
and while an hour later I your jit.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah it's still said, like what what message.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Did it give you? It was clogged or some shit
like that, like.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Something two clogged something pigsprise lends. You can handle the tubes,
no problem. Yeah, listen, when we don't own shit, I
ain't open it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I barely. Don't want to open stuff here.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
No, I don't want that kind of responsibility. There's cameras
in there, and if they comes back more jacked up,
be like Gippy was the last one to touch it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But the check the camera and they're like some radio
person and then we're cut off.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We don't get any more good coffee anymore. How much
do you think that coffee machine is?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh? Ten grand?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I would say at least twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Oh way more, Lindsey, way more than twenty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Did you just look it up?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
No, but way, it's gotta be more than two.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'd say minimum five. A good espresso machine is twenty five.
So this looks very similar to that one. It's not
the exact same one. It's ten grand. Yeah, yeah, those
coffee machines are not cheap.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I tried to get water and it wanted to be
like laggy on me. I'm like, I'm not fucking with
this anymore. Okay, bye, I'll drink the regular bottle water
we have upstairs. That peach mango is really good with
the extra electrolytes.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I do the blueberry line, and I think that is.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Boom amazing the shit we did to get like, I mean, also,
it didn't work, and I was fucking pissed, right, fucking
ruined my day? All right, all right, So I think
it's safe to say we've all watched porn. Yes, yeah,
I just did. Okay, Well you've been in front of
(02:43):
me for ten minutes, so yeah, it's a little awkward,
but we've all watched porn, right yeah, yeah. And do
you think yes or no people in porn make good money? No,
some probably, I think much like I think Lindsay's onto
something there. Much like every other career, you've got to
start off at the bottom, so you're not gonna be
(03:05):
making a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But then the.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
More in this case movies, you make, the bigger your
name becomes, the more sought after you are, and then
you could start negotiating and getting some good money. Sure,
I always think that people because people do that, right,
they're like, oh, if you have a name for yourself,
you can't use that's like going Howard Stern is the bar.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, that is the anomaly, right right.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So the people that are really popular, which I wouldn't
even know those people are imporn would be the anomaly. Okay, right,
you're not going to get in to make that much
that money when you first start right.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Right, right, you're Jenna Jamison's of the world, right and
back in the day, right right. That's the only one
I can remember. Yeah, So an article I found.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
This article was from twenty twenty, but they went into
depth and asking people in porn how much they make.
It's super fascinating. So they asked this one porn star,
do you think having the do you think people have
the wrong idea about how much porn stars really make?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And she said, think about it. How many people pay
to watch porn online?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Nobody?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Most don't, so budgets are low. Thinking porn actors are
rich is absurd. Perhaps this misconception has to do with visibility.
We're probably the least paid public figures if you consider
how popular we are. I have one point five million
followers on Instagram, but my income is nowhere near what
an influencer with the.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Same audience makes.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wow, how many scenes do you do a month? She
says she's booked the most when she's between the ages
of twenty two and twenty six. That was the most
she was ever booked, and During that time, she did
about one hundred scenes a year.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wow. Okay, yeah, that's a I don't know if you
do the math.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean once every three days, okay, every three and
a half day, four days. That's as it's a job.
On top of it's a job, you gotta do it. Sorry,
but you only worked three days. He's out of the week.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Fucking car here. And then what expenses do you have?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
She says, there's taxes, then an agency fee that can
be as high as fifteen percent, accommodations if you have
to do it in another city, you have to pay
for tests, so anywhere between two hundred to five hundred
dollars per scene.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Wow, So that's all that they make?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yes, and this person sided making about a thousand dollars
a scene.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Wow, wow, all right?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Worth it?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So if you've got to take two dicks at once
and you're only getting two hundred dollars for it, like, ah,
is that really worth it?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right? When I make a name for myself, escorts, I'm
an actor would make more. I would assume it's the same.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's okay, sure prostitution, sure, yeah, this says. This was
a male actor and he was asked what was your
financial expectation when you started working porn? This is a
fantastic guy answer. I didn't have any expectations. I did
it just for fun, right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Because you think you're gonna get all the pussy in the.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
World, says, Beginners don't make a lot of money. You
just reimbursed for your expenses. And there are people who
even pay to be in their shots. Wow, that's there's
a couple of bands that places bands player like the
Troubadour is a famous place in La.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You have to pay to play on that stage. Yeah,
all right, So if you're a.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Band and we played the Troubadour in La, people go, no,
kidd man, that's cool. Yeah, you pay to do that, right,
anybody can do it, right, But you're banking on that
exposure that well, then just saying that putting that on resume, right. Yeah.
Another woman was asked that she because she was a
rising star, and what did you think you'd make before
(06:42):
you started? She says, compensation in porn is definitely lower
than people think. I do it because I like it
and it makes me happy. The more important than the financial.
That's more important to me than the financial. How did
you get your break this part's crazy. I got in
touch with an actor I followed Max Felicitous, and we
(07:03):
started shooting scenes together. The rest fell into place. I
gained visibility, and other productions got in touch with me,
including this famous person that does the Fake Taxi, which
is a reality porn website staging scenes in the back
of a taxi and she's filmed around twenty scenes.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Wow, so she just DMed.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Somebody in the porn was like, hey, let me show
you how good I am.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right, and then that person that's wild.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I think that right there is easier for women
than it is men. I don't see a guy having
that same sort of luck when it comes just sliding
into some famous you know, porn stars dms and like
just become a big after that the guy for the girls.
It's like, well, yeah you want, okay, come on, we'll
make some fucking movies. And then other people in the
(07:53):
industry see it and they're like, yeah, she's she's hot,
she she fucks let's.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Do it again.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah. I could only think and probably Len he can
speak to this more than I can. Even Lindsey gets
people sliding into her dms. I can't imagine if you're
in porn. That's like, you know, a day that ends
in why right, that's just constant where I just assume men.
That isn't common, right, I just assume men there. That's
just maybe it is in the porn world. Maybe so
(08:19):
maybe they just get people like hey, right, right, right?
Maybe you know with with gay man, you know, like, hey,
I like this guy.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
He's got a huge slug. Let me see if I can.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
No, that's I think that's that's fair too. I think
women porn though, too. I bet it happens with women
lesbian porn. I bet it happens that way slid into
the female accesses. But I think in the like heterosexual
male female porn, I bet there are some women that
slide in that way. No way near the same number
on the female side, but I bet it happens, oh yeah,
(08:52):
because clearly this woman just that's what that's all she did.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And anybody you know who has the opportunity to be
to say I had sex with the porn star, that's
a pretty big badge to have on there, So is it.
I think some people, I think some people would like
to have that accolade. I think people believe it's a badge.
But I think a lot of people go, don't go man.
I think they go, okay, right, No woman thinks that's
(09:20):
an awesome thing for a guy.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No woman sees a guy and he's like, I had
sex with the porn star. Woman goes, hell, yeah, what's
up right? No, that's strictly for your note guy friends,
you know, your buddies whatever, be like I slept with
this porn star. No way, And maybe women to their
lady friends as well. I don't know, but you're probably right,
you know when you hear that, And I guess you
could say sam thing about you know, a guy, you know,
(09:45):
trying to talk to this gal, she's like, oh, I
slept with Derk Diggler or what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Area like what? Maybe I think that it's like, uh,
because I can't compete with that.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I had a couple of friends that they would sleep
with strippers like they just had that magic mojo.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I don't know, maybe that cocaine, but they just everywhere
we went. Every time we went to a strip club
in the record industry, they would bang.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And I'm always like, how right is it?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like the appalation trail, like you just like, but it's
not awesome at all? Right, right, well, listen, she didn't
have to do the best looking stripper. But you hear
when you think about that, When you hear when your
buddy tells you I slept with a stripper last night.
I totally banged a stripper last night. You automatically imagine
the best looking one, right, and they're not going to
tell you now it was the fucking line cook, right,
(10:33):
or it was a day shifter.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right, You should ask what's her day job? Yeah, exactly
what was her total bring home? Right? Because it's the
appalation trail. Yep, you just get to say you did it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And you think it's either going to be like this
crazy good sex sensual experimentive like whatever picture you paint,
and it might not be awesome at all. It might
be like if you go home with a guy, you
think it's gonna be so good because he's a male stripper,
and yeah, sure, maybe he's willing down, but he's like gee,
(11:08):
like that turtle hump in the shoe. Hey, it could
be that way because guess what he's acting.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes, it's all the same, all the same or he laughs.
It was like the I want to say it was
an Adam Sandler movie where he's like from sasketchat.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right and he's like this puffy guy.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, that's what it was, and you expect him to
be like, hey, what's happening and he's like, hey, you
want to have some high pitched voice. Yeah, that scene
from the Adam Sandler movie with Mrman. And it's just
a funny dynamic because she's doing it for status. She's
she wants to say she banged Merman. Yeah, and he's
(11:55):
doing because he wants to have sex. Well, yeah, she's breathing.
And the agendas are two completely different. And sides of
the Fence is just a fascinating social experiment to be like.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Eh.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The other one on here is they talked to a
veteran in the industry and they asked him because he'd
been in the industry since nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Nine, Wow, and how much has it changed?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
He says, it's completely upside down, not just because of
the Internet at the end of the eighties. In my
early days, the struggle was a real struggle starting out,
but once you started filming, you were in. You worked
for big productions, with famous actors and you could travel
the world. Viagra marked the first financial crisis for the
male porn stars because all of a sudden, hundreds of
budding actors who couldn't perform were able to work and
(12:41):
fees bottomed out. Right, how much did you make in
the nineties A lot? If you were part of a
small circle of actors who could have sex for hours
in front of the cameras. Production companies wanted to sign
you because you were liable. You could make the equivalent
of thirteen thousand dollars a month, even more if you
were at the peak of your career. Wow, And that
(13:02):
makes sense for that time, the eighties, that's when it
was on video. You had to know somebody, or you
had to go to some shady store somewhere, you know,
and wear a trench coat and you know, Fedora glasses
on or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
They asked him, what does he do now?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And he says, I get about anywhere between thousand and
eight hundred dollars a scene, but not very many people
can afford that. So I own my own company and
do shots by myself. So I don't think by himself.
I think, right, Yeah, he gets someone to work, Yeah,
still eight hundred thousand dollars for a scene some bad.
(13:39):
I mean, yes, yes, but you can't equate it to
the best day at work. No, it's eight hundred dollars
for the worst day at work. And I know, hey,
any pizza's good pizza. But that's just not true. Let's
just say, you know, you do one thousand dollars for
one scene. You do those five scenes in a week, right,
(13:59):
you take your Saturdays and Sundays off.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And still you made five grand. You made five grand.
A fuck if that if there were five days.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I think the whole point of the article is that
it isn't right.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It isn't the gold rush right right now?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Of course, yeah, I'm not naive to the fact that
you know, that could be good for one week and
then you might not work for another week or two.
So yeah, you'll have to stretch it out. So I
guess in the grand scheme of things, maybe it's not.
But whatever, take.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Your bike in if you go. This is for everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
If you could go back in time, early twenties and
you meet someone in there in the porn industry and
they're like, you should do porn, would you take that
ticket Lindsey.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
In my early twentieses.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Total eve, like, you don't gi about any of those things.
Family isn't even on the radar.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Right, Probably I probably would have given it a whirl,
assuming the money would have been good.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It would have been beginner money, so it would not
have been good, right, beginning money.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's not. Here's a ten thousand dollars check. Right. Oh,
and here's a bump. Yeah, I may have. I may have. Okay, Gimby,
I knew your answer.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I actually thought about it in my early twenties, right,
because I was born with this Gilda fiss and I'm like,
that would actually I've got a stick. I've got a stick. Now,
I could go and I could be in this right Yeah.
But then kids came along and ruined that plan. Right,
I mean I think there are plenty of people that
have kids that are important.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well now they do.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah. No, I wouldn't have. Really, I just know my limits.
You know, the dog's watching me. I get nervous.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Now you've got a guy with the camera over the shoulder.
Not a guy.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Guys, guys, that's true. People loud noises critiquing. No, I
think you block that out. No, sure, can't. I can't
block when they're drilling out in the back here on
in the yard, out here in the street.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah yeah, I've seen those videos.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah not but in the bedroom. No, I mean even
a dog just staring at you. Right, I'm s a
director telling you move over, sweat less, sweat more? Can
you not breathe as heavy microphon? Your mama sure does
(16:35):
care a lot about your education. Boy.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Scene in Porky's the idea that you get like the
super hot girl, you finally get there, and then she's.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Like hoof, hoof while you're having sex with them, Like
what is happening.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
When you just hurry up and get her done and
you get to say you bang the hot jack.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
She may bark like a.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Dog, but it's okay, Yeah, it's It's like I remember
being twenty twenty something and meeting this girl and going
back to my place and having sex and she was like, I.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Want you to pee on me, and I was.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Like, like the record player wound down. I was like,
my brain took off so many thoughts, right, like what's
happened on the game.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I'm not kidding, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, See that's the difference between you and me, because
that was asked the same question.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I'm like, okay, yeah no, because then I'm like, well,
what if I have to do? I have to go.
Have I had enough water?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You should probably get in the bathtob I don't want
to do it here. What are we gonna do after?
I just that's why, that's how I know my limits.
I know I cannot do something like that. I can't
be a part of the I'm going all right, cut hey, carbon,
this is real hairy, right, We're gonna do a side one,
(18:07):
so let us reset the cameras.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Okay, what do I do? The sit on your phone
and you still Facebook night, right, and like do I
stop having sex at that moment?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You have to, but the crowd may leave if you
know what a right? And so let me be in
the theater. See what I'm saying, Like I can't.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's called intermission. They went to go get a hot
dog from the fucking lobby, and in my world, intermission
lasts about a minute.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
At the most.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Don't worry the moment you get up from your seat
and they're turning the lights off and on saying get
back to your seats because we're starting this thing again.
There's no way I can be a part of something
like that at all now working on a production, sure, okay, sure,
being the camera guy or the boom mic operator, yes key, grip,
(19:10):
yeah no, that's the only thing that would get me
like right right. Listen, Deborah called in today her kids
are sick again.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Korb's gonna need you to get in there and flow.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh god, temper, Yeah I don't. That would be my
only fear of being like you get caught in a moment.
You're like, all right, listen, the show must go on.
You put some goddamn lotion on those hands, like.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You get in there and chert that guy off my
favorite quick. It's just a dick, right, you hold one
all the time. What's so different about this time? What's
the big deal? I don't need three hands to hold
on a mine? Sir? And where the Millers? Oh no,
(19:58):
not her right talking to you? You're like, word, Kenny,
get in there, yeah, you get in there and make
out with your sister. God.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, that movie's bizarre on so many levels. You watch
it and you see that they're making out, and you're like,
this feels fine, right, it is fine, But it is
fine they're.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Not related, so fine, No, but then you think about
all the times you've seen family members and go, are
they related?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's step, it's fine, right, yeah, okay, all right, too far.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If you're listening and you were wondering where last week's
podcast is, uh, you may have missed the best podcast
we've ever done. It was amazing and I apparently did
not hit safe. So it's gone forever only for our
three years. And listen, it's out in the universe somewhere.
When you die, you'll find it. Right, Oh, there's the
(21:04):
lost podcast episode. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Are you watching Fallout? Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I haven't watched the last couple of episodes, been a
little busy or whatever. But it's it's it's falling in
line with a lot of the other second seasons.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
It's not good. It's not good.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
There is a new Game of Thrones series out, okay,
The Night of the Seven a Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If you guys have watched it yet.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I just discovered it because I went on a bit
of a bender because they're playing it. I guess that's
why they're playing all the old Game of Thrones too. Anyway,
so I did watch it. It's little it's a little different.
It's a little different. And the first episode's only like
thirty five minutes, forty minutes. I thought that was really weird.
Goes it starts off weird. You're like, are we already
three quarters.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Of the way this is?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
How is it weird?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Is it like Brother and Sister? No, it takes place
one hundred years before Game of Thrones.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Oh so was it?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Like the House Dragon was like two hundred years right
right before. So this is obviously clearly between. And it's
some weird little bald headed powder kid that's involved, you know,
and some lurch ass motherfucking knight who's like kind of weird,
quirky night.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm gonna give it a couple of episodes before I
before I scrap out on it, But like the first one,
I was like, this just doesn't seem right.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
This seems weird.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, it's the Start of the Dragons is essentially the
concept behind it, based off his other novels.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
From what I know. Yeah, it's worthily if you're a fan,
it's worth checking into pitt Man Pit's where it's at.
Oh yeah, that's what you're saying. Yeah, this so far
the second season is Solitude. Oh and a good.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
I watched over the weekend His and Hers on Netflix.
It's like four episode series, quick, quick, quick, very very good. Uh,
it's it's got one of the the guy that from
The Walking Dead the first season.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
John Burenthal, Yeah awesome, Yes he was.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
He was who was the sheriff's bestie?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah yeah, John b Yeah yeah yeah Rick's wife. Yes,
exactly that guy. Uh yeah, real good.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Him and his his estranged wife separated. And he is
a he's a sheriff detectives in the of the sheriff's
office investigating a murder and the person the murder victim
is someone that he's actually been fucking.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, so it's it's it's a good one.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
John Burnenthal has done some amazing stuff. He's in The
Accountant too, for those that don't know, that's the Ben Affleck.
He's got like autism or somebody's an accountant, but he's
a mafia kid man. And Berenthal is the brother, his
brother that shows up. Okay, yeah, that movie's fantastic. Ford
(24:00):
and Ferrari isn't a great movie, but he's great in it.
Baby Driver, he's great, Baby Driver.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Justice League versus Teen Titans. Oh he's a voice.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Okay, yeah, uh sickarow, Oh my god, that movie's fantastic. Fury,
he's great in obviously Wolf of Wall Street, he's fantastic
in He's great and pretty much everything that he does.
If he's never been a main actor in anything, really, yeah,
he has, you think so yeah, I think everything I've
seen him, and he's always you know, supporting. Well, he
(24:31):
isn't a main one in this, and I think he's
considered a main one in The Accountant too. Okay, Uh,
I'm gonna have to watch this the amateur.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Uh, this has got oh my gosh, what's it?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Romy Malick, Yeah, Lawrence Fishburne, John Bernenthal.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, yeah that looks good too. Uh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Uh. The Better Sister's pretty good on Amazon if you
haven't seen that. And it's got Jessica Alba and she
her husband dies, is killed, and they arrest her son
for doing it, and then her sister shows up to help,
but she's estranged and also the sister her sister is
(25:16):
also the man who's dead's ex wife. Like it's a
bizarre circle and you're not sure who's the killer, Okay,
and she's cheating on her husband who's now dead, like
everybody is a prime suspect life.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, it's really good, So some good stuff out there. Okay,
that was enough wasting time. You guys have a fantastic
week and we'll talk to you later
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