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Speaker 1 (00:15):
So many texted and said that the Taylor Sakario was
a Taylor Sheridan. I forgot that, say is it yeah,
And now that I think about it, you will definitely
see that with some of the wide shots of the border.
I don't know if I want to give a shot.
I just watch the opening scene. Uh huh. That's how
they gets you hooked. I mean, dude, it's pretty good.

(00:36):
I think it's it's NonStop. So there's a lot of
drug porn involved in this. No, a lot of customs
and border agent porn involved. How many shootouts are there
involved in this movie and the ninety minutes I'm assuming
it's a ninety minute movie. He's like, yeah, six hundred,
maybe hundred ten. There's the opening one at the border,

(01:01):
and then there's one when they sneak the hit man
into Mexico. I think there's only two maybe three. That's shocking. Yeah,
of course, I could be, you know, confusing, because there's
maybe there's so many they all run together. I don't know.
I'll give it a shot. It's on I said, it's

(01:22):
on Prime video. I have to get my girlfriends in
Netflix log in. Okay, we talked on Friday. We did
news quickies and we did a headline that was about
a man who was breaking a world record with his nipples,
if I remember correctly, Yes, Okay, So that show led me.

(01:45):
That headline led me down a rabbit hole because of
one of the hosts of the show. And she was attractive,
and I was like, who's that Like, I was trying
to figure out who it was, and went down the
rabbit hole of who she was, and that she was
married and had a kid with a soccer star. And

(02:07):
she said that and then they got divorced. She went
on to marry someone else. But she said that the
reason her divorce ended, or her marriage ended in divorce
with the first guy, was because of the strict rules
of a cult. She was in, not a cult, a cult, right,

(02:28):
and which is fascinating for somebody to come forward on
and this is a huge show. She's on in Germany,
so it would be like Ryan Seacrest coming out or
something like that. Yeah, and so she says that that. Oh,
and she hosts the Eurovision Song Contest, which is a
massive show too. Anyway, she said that they tied the

(02:51):
not in nineteen ninety eight and they had a daughter
later and then the relationship came to an end in
two thousand and two, so about four years, right, And
she said during the first year of marriage, she joined
a cult or a sect called the Warriors of Light,
and they had a strict lifestyle and had to follow

(03:12):
a vegan diet. Okay, now, a strict lifestyle. Some churches
require that around here. And you know, eating a vegan
diet isn't the worst offense in the world. There's food
that's pretty good that's vegan. And then you had to
refrain from drinking alcohol and smoking. Again, some of these

(03:33):
fall in line with other groups organizations of rules that
they follow. And having sex or masturbating was also not allowed. Well,
that's just terrible. I can get past a lot of things,
but I don't know, man, not having sex, not being
able to rub it off, right, not just not having sex, right,

(03:54):
you know? Yes, yeah, And she said she was twenty
when she joined this Warriors group after meeting a therapist.
And she said that her and the therapist became close
after she helped her husband overcome sickness after suffering from
a sore throat, which I didn't know therapists help with that,

(04:17):
but apparently maybe the chiropractorics, and she wrote a book
about all this, and she said before the meetings, we
had to shower and put on white clothes. Here's where
we're here's where we're peaking in this Conversationay, okay, the
white clothes doesn't surprise me. That seems very cultish. If

(04:39):
you are an organization and they want you to wear
a robe, you should ask some questions if that's the
right place for you. I think, what are we doing now?
If one person wears a robe, I don't think that's
a big ad deal. But if they require everybody to

(05:01):
wear a rope, right, I think that's a little bizarre.
But if it's an organization of judges, the people in
the court don't have to wear them, just the judges.
That's fine right now. With that being said, I was
in a youth group called De Malet that's a youth
organization for young men between the ages of thirteen twenty one,

(05:22):
and it is a the child version or the kids
version of the Masons. A cult. Some would say, listen,
if you need your history on the Masons, every group.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
My dad was a Mason every.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
So that's why you're defending. So every group is a cult.
Let's be clear, every last one church pta booster clus
that those are cults. You don't believe me, You don't
think so, lindsay why not?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Why are they because.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
They was set a cult because they have a strict
rule of following, and no one person's in charge, not.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
One person, because so is the president of the United States.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Is that a cult? No, that's a country. That's a
country that's ran.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, that's what a booster club is. You have a
country president of the Booster Club, a vice president.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Of a president of the church. Okay, you have a
president of the leader or a priest. Name it. What
you want? What do you think? What do you think
the scientology? Is that a cult?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, you just don't want to say that. Yes, you
know it's a cult. Sure, No, it's a cult. It's
not a religion. Why not? What?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Who do they follow? What's the matter, l Ron, what's
the matter?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I mean, it's not a religion?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is it in the Bible?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
No? Which Bible? What is the Bible? Tell me what
the Bible is? The Book of God? Nope?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And Jesus Nope.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
It's forty different books put into one forty different stories.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, but going back to your original statement of a
booster or a pta is a cult, I don't understand
why that makes it a cult.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Are you saying that because you're in it?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
No, I'm just asking why is it a cult?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Because they have a strict rule of order that you
must follow, and if you don't do it their way,
you're out. Scientology is officially recognized as a religion in
the United States and in several other countries. We're not
the only wordos here. Founded in nineteen fifty three by l.
Ron Hubbard, it focuses on the study of the spirit
and offers a path to understanding one's true spiritual nature

(07:38):
and relationship to life. So here's the official definition of cult.
A small group of people having beliefs or practices, especially
relating to religion, that are regarded by others as strange, sinister,
or imposing excessive control over members. Maybe not your booster club,
but there are booster clubs out there that you got
to do it their way or you're out. Well, it's

(08:00):
not it's got to be religion based, especially religion, No,
especially relating that's not exclusively relating to religion. Typically there's
a religion behind it, right, But any group that imposes
their will like this is the way it's got to
be without your like you're like, this is awesome. They're

(08:23):
all suspects anyway, in d Malay, we had robes we wore,
but we were only in this is gonna be hilarious, David,
only in ritual competitions. Competitions, not just gatherings, but competition. Yeah,
you didn't like in the I don't even know the

(08:47):
right word for the room anymore. But like in the
ritual room, there was where they sacrificed. No, there was
an altar. How much blood was spilled on? None never
saw blood once that I see blood that was sacrificing
virgin Are you kidding us? Storks? None of them were

(09:08):
virgins when they left, lindsay, yeah, and I don't know.
You can easily say that we did weird things. Is
that thing? Is that organization still oh yeah active today? Yeah? Yeah,
it's one hundred per We helped out groups, which a

(09:32):
lot of a lot of groups organized groups do. Yeah,
but it was I guess under the guise of uh
the Masons. But we had secret meetings, but not secret
like you could go to like I No, you couldn't
just go right like, I couldn't just show up out

(09:54):
of nowhere and be like, hey, I'm here for your
coult meeting, I mean yours. Yeah. No, you definitely wouldn't
get in if you said that I'm here for the
secret conclavet I'm trying to remember if they had a handshake. Yeah,
are a secret word. I don't remember. Man fraternities and
sororities are like that. Yeah, they have a secret rule

(10:18):
of order and some of them wear robes. Founded in
Kansas City in nineteen nineteen, I see. I've known a
few people who say they were in Demola. I never
really got into it, but I knew it was a
secretive thing. You couldn't just openly talk about it. That
blows me away. And the same way with the Masons.

(10:40):
The Masons, you can't just openly talk about it. You know,
you're not supposed to be I supposed to know. There's
a lot of secrecy that goes in there. Here's the
values of Dimlay's philial love. Who philial love, The love
and kindness we should should have with our parents, the
ones that gave us birth and taught us the first
lessons of kindness, respect and belief in God okay, reverence

(11:03):
for sacred things, belief in a supreme being and respect
for others beliefs okay. Another value courtesy, kindness, respect and philanthropy.
Philanthropy comradeship. Comradeship being a faithful friend, not only in
good times but also in hard times. Fidelity, the strength
to follow one's man's own values virtues and keep secret

(11:25):
everything which is entrusted in one. Faithfulness to God, one's homeland,
and one's friends. Jacques de Malay preferred to die rather
than betray his companions or break with his pledge. Cleanliness,
purity and soul and heart and clear consciousness, keeping your
mind away from everything that is against the values of
a good citizen. And then patriotism, respect for and willingness

(11:48):
to defend our homeland, our democracy, our state, and our city,
including the preservation of public spaces and places such as schools, asylums,
orphanages and hospitals that support people in need. It says
here that Frank s Land, the guy who created De Molay,
was inspired by the story of Jacques d. De Molay Malay,

(12:13):
the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar. You know
who else has a grand master in their group? Huh?
The clan? Yeah, it's not wrong. Who else wears robes
in their little fucking gatherings? That's fun the clan. I'm

(12:34):
not saying that they're related, but that's not our similarity.
That's not the same. Why because it's a sport. It's
competent you No, it's it's like saying football. Yeah no, Uh,
these are I looked up organizations wear robes, all right,
I love it. Uh. Christian clergy administry ministers okay, Protestant

(13:01):
Reformed churches, monastic orders, Benedictines okay, like for monasteries and
stuff like that. A lot of the Catholic religions lay
ministers and choirs. Yeah, choirs do yeah, yeah, up, they're singing.
You have a good voice. Would you like to join us?
We sing on Wednesdays and Sundays? Oh yeah yeah? What

(13:24):
size are you about? A large? Right? Well, we got
to wear this white robe, right yeah? You got no
pointy hats with that? Do they? Now? But you have
fellowship afterwards. Knighthoods. The Order of Malta, which is an
ancient Catholic organization, is the Order of Malta still a thing.
I don't know. I think so. Now I've been in

(13:50):
Italy where the Order of Malta has this building, and
when you look through the keyhole, the Vatican Dome fits
perfectly in the keyhole. It's true. Interesting. Yeah, like it
was purposely made though. Yeah. Yeah, oh yep. The current
Grand Master of the Order of Malta is Fragen don Lap.

(14:11):
He selected in twenty twenty three. Oh. The Order runs
over one hundred medical and social organizations worldwide, thirteen thousand members,
ninety five thousand volunteers. Huh. It's a sovereign entity, okay,
which means they could do whatever the fuck I want
to do, Yeah, without territory, dick about it. They maintain

(14:31):
diplomatic relations with over one hundred states and have a
seat in the United Nations. Wow. That means they run
the shit. Wow. Well, there's there's some that believe the
Order the brother of Malta or the Order of Malta
runs the Vatican okay, And they're the ones that made
the last pope step down. Uh Okay, not the one
that died, but that creepy looking motherfucker. Yeah, was a Benedict.

(14:55):
Benedict I thinks because he had to have the really
fancy shoes, and he looked creepy. Yeah, because the last
one that was there he naturally died, but it was
the one before him. I think it was Benedict. Benedict
like the eighteenth or some shit like that, that creepy
fucking You look in his eyes and they're all fucking

(15:17):
black circles around. You're like, yeah, you look like the
kind that rapes children and sacrifice his fucking goats for fine. Yeah,
he gave me bad vibes the entire time. I'm glad
they told him to step down. So apparently it's quite
the list, the list of bad popes of people that
have seats in the United Nations that aren't countries. Okay,

(15:39):
I thought that doesn't make any damn but I mean
nations countries. This is a fine line. I mean, the
Vatican is a country, right, I get, But not what's
a nation within the country. Oh see, that would make sense. Yeah, yeah,
that'd be like if Texas, you know, superseded and they're like, well,

(16:02):
we're not going anywhere because we're kind of fucking attached.
But so it would Texas would be a nation inside
the country of the United States of America. But the
Vatican city is only one hundred and acres, like it's
not You don't have to be that big. You just
have to have a lot of money. They don't even
have their own military. They go to corporate rely on

(16:23):
the Swedes to look after them.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Can somebody declare war on the Vatican? Oh, you'd be
a fool if you did. Why have you seen what
the Swedes wear? They're not have a chance. I don't know.
I think it goes a lot deeper than just the
Swiss army, you know, with their fancy knives and spoons
and shit. Yeah, they are horrible fighters, but if you
need a campfire or you need a tooth thick, they

(16:48):
are your people. Real You fucking around and find out
that all those popes and priests and all that cardinals,
they're all like secret ninjas. The amount of things that
are secret within the Vatican is wild to Yeah. Yeah.
They have the Vatican Gender Marie one hundred and fifty

(17:10):
plus member police force, and then they have the Swiss Guard,
the Pope's personal bodyguards, and then they have the Entity
what a name? That's like the last level, right you
go through, like the Vatican Police Department and then well

(17:30):
they couldn't get the job done. So now the Swiss
Army has to stamp in, right, and the Swiss Army
is like, fuck, we couldn't do it. And that's when
the entity comes in. You're like, oh, you're fucked. You
got the entity coming after you. This says they're the
spying apparatus of the Vatican. Spying yeah, like the CIA. Yeah, okay,
how come there's in a movie? Does the Vatican need spies?

(17:54):
Why do we need the CIA? I get it from
like a governmental aspect or whatever. You're keeping eye on
your enemies throughout the world or whatever. But if the Vatican,
the Vatican is supposed to be like this religious whole
fucking we're all about the church and everything's fucking cool, man,
We're all good, why do they need spies. If they don't,

(18:16):
if they shouldn't have any enemies around the world at
all whatsoever, because we're just good, God fearing people that
occasionally fucking touch kids every now and again, then they
shouldn't have There should be no need for spies. So
there's a belief, oh man, this is gonna be We're
getting in the weeds. There's a belief that the CIA

(18:37):
doesn't protect America, it protects America's business interests, okay, and
that they will only do what's good for American businesses
is good for America. That's the mentality, right, So if
that is true about the CIA, that I would imagine
the entity is also the same. What is good for
businesses or the business of the Vatican is good for
the nation of the Vatican. Well, what business does the

(18:58):
Vatican need? What businesses do? They're not like they're opening
up a fucking bread store, you know what I mean. No,
but the Vatican is, some would argue, is the foundation
of religion or definitely of the Catholic religion. Definitely the
Catholic religion. They are the keeper of the Catholic religion.
You could say, yeah, yeah, which is massive, it's global.

(19:20):
I think it's more of a money thing because I
feel I don't know shit about shit. But if the
Vatican is like, hey, we need this country to do this,
then they fucking do it. They pull some strings, is
what I'm saying. Yeah, the uh, I'll never forget going
to the Vatican. And then you're standing there and they
have the obli esque in the middle of the vat

(19:41):
like right in the front, and they we did those
the hearing thing like you put the headphones on and
do like walk at your own pace or you walk,
it picks up and like oh yeah audible tour guy
or whatever. Yeah, and it was we were looking out
at it and they're like they talked about all the
people they would tie to it and beat and like kill.
And you're like, this is weird. I remember stand there
going this is kind of awkwards and it's still there. Yeah,

(20:02):
and you're like ooh, right, pull right in front of it.
You know how much blood, sweat and tears literally is
spilled all over that thing and you're like, oh, let
me touch it, or just in the square right right historically,
or you go to the coliseum and you're standing there
and you're like, take my picture, right, people have died right,

(20:24):
a lion, a fucking slave right here because he couldn't
keep up. Or the same thing holds true when you
go to Alcatraz and you're walking in Alcatraz and you're
walking up the hill to go to it, and you're like, huh,
here we are going on this place, not only historically

(20:44):
with like prisoners that were there, and how they were
treated and how bad it was. But also they took
Native Americans there and like imprisoned them because we didn't
understand Native American culture, and Japanese prison Japanese people there
because you know, they all look the same. Yeah, you're like,
this is weird. I paid to get in here and
go crawl in on one of the bunks. Hey, look
at me, I'm a prisoner. Yeah yeah, yeah. So anyway,

(21:08):
the woman she wrote a book about it, called a
Seemingly Perfect Life, and she says that if she wasn't
in the cult, she would have probably stayed married, that
it was the cult's fault that got divorced. She said,
we always had to take off her shoes on the threshold.
I don't think that's weird. No. I don't like doing
it though, And I don't understand, like I'm a grown

(21:30):
ass fucking adult and nice. If I want to wear
my shoes in this house, I'm going here. Yeah, in
your own house. No, that doesn't fucking matter. Man, I'm
not taking up stinking up my gut your house with
my stinky feet. Yeah, but I also don't want whatever
is on the bottom of your feet in my house.
So so so you let me just track you know,
my funk all over? Well, technically, yeah, you're funk. What

(21:51):
do you think something? Do you think there's no funk
on the bottom of your shoe? No, smell the bottom
of my foot and then smell the bottom of my
shoe and tell me which one smells better. Funk doesn't
always have a smell, right Anyway, We had to take
off our shoes on the threshold. Then we had to
wash our hands again and sit in circles on the
sofas or cross legged on the floor before starting the

(22:11):
session of lying down or meditating. According to the Khlia,
sexuality was an animalistic instinct and therefore dirty and low.
We had to lift that instinct to a higher level,
subliminate it, and turn it into inner energy. Just five
years after joining, she left the group at the age
of twenty five, it was claimed to twenty eighteen. She

(22:33):
blamed her divorce from the football player on the cult,
which had allegedly attempted to convince her that he was
a bad influence and had allegedly attempted to isolate her
from her family because he was black. Right, Yeah, I
think he was a dark skinned man. Yes, anytime you
try to someone says, don't be around your family. I

(22:54):
think that's a big red automatic robes. Right, Hey, you
don't think you should be talking to Gimpi anymore? Yeah,
we think you should leave your wife. Yeah, I might
let you slide on the robes, but definitely if they're like,
you can't talk to anybody, you can't talk to any
family at all, whatsoever, it's like, okay, not your purple robes,

(23:17):
cool and all. But my study of cults, which is
small average, is that they give you a small little
taste that you don't feel as weird, and then they
keep giving you little tastes of change until suddenly you
get the big ask and then they're they got you
cause you're like, what you've done, all this work right right?
You don't love this, You don't love me, you don't

(23:38):
love what we do here, and you're just like, next
thing you know, you have a teenage wife and you're
running guns in West Texas. Next thing you know, Janet
Reno's at your door, going let me in allof and
all puff anytime we can get a Genet Reno reference
in that bitch was was she did know? Oh she died?

(24:02):
Oh guy, ah oh yeah twenty sixteen. Yo, oh ten
years ago, no shit up? Yeah, I bet you. They
had to have a specially made casket for her. For him. Uh,
she had died of Parkinson's. Oh man, that's sad. That's sad.
I don't wonder what they did for shakes after that. Dude.

(24:27):
I had the craziest thing happened to me this morning
making coffee and I got the half and half out
of the fridge and I always shake it up for
whatever settled or whatever, right, probably don't need to just
have it. Well, apparently the cap wasn't on it, and
I tell you what, shaking half and half around her
room wearing a black shirt. I stood there and was like, ah, God,

(24:49):
I hope Lindsay doesn't come around the room right now
and see me just sploshed with shoot up all over
my chestwhere pretty funny visual.

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Speaker 1 (25:03):
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Speaker 2 (25:39):
Really, I was gonna say, they'll never show us the money.

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money and this year, but it's in the form of
iHeart dollars and you can use it at the iHeart
store on Mondays and Fridays between the hours of eleven
PM and a night. Yeah. I can't wait to get
my mouse pad it. So it's like Monopoly, buddy, I

(26:04):
can't wait to get to my eraser. Right right, we'll
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