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Speaker 1 (00:16):
I typically don't watch city council comments No. One hundred, right,
but I came across this one that is really good,
and I am, for the record, I am pro flock cameras. Yeah,
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I am for them. I have witnessed them work in
real time to stop some really bad people. I've seen
them save children and those two. One of them was
a murdering guy and he was trying to run from
the police from Chicago, was traveling through Tulsa, and they
caught him because of flock cameras. If you're not doing
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anything wrong, you shouldn't have anything to worry about children
getting abducted, and they find them pretty fast that way.
I think that that's pretty awesome. Now, I'm not for
some of the other things you hear of, like they're
starting to track people faces and all that other stuff. Right,
I'm not a fan of it being a private company
and there's no oversight in it. That part I'm not
a fan of either. Right. With that being said, I
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think that this is an incredibly good person, good way
to present this to the city council.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Now, I'm gonna be a little bit meaner than them,
so please don't violate my rights. Normally I wouldn't come
to a city council meeting. I'm one of the county's
pains in the ass. Historically, I stay out of the
city and the city stays out of my business. It
was a pretty decent arrangement, But then y'all sent me
one of these tickets from one of your AI red
light cameras you have deemed as necessary infrastructure in your city.
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Thing about this is is I was in Seminole, Alabama
at the time I allegedly ran this red light downtown.
How can I be in two places at once? You ask,
don't worry? I asked myself that too. Outside of Scotty
being me up thirty miles in an instant, the only
logical conclusion is I wasn't there. These things have been
deemed unconstitutional for this for this reason because the enforcement
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action of three one six dot zero zero eight three
unduly shifts the burden of proof to the vehicle owner
me to prove my innocence, rather than the state having
to prove my guilt. Currently, I'm guilty by default. I've
been convicted by a computer program.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Isn't that fascinating? That's an interesting take on it, and
he's not wrong. Yeah, it shifts the blame.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, do you think that maybe they've done it on
purpose like that? I mean, maybe it gets the government
off the hook essentially. Maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I mean, I think the idea of like a red
light camera is a situation where it's it's a way
not to enforce the rules. It's not a way to
slide the system and shift from us. You getting to
defend yourself. Right now, he has said something that I
found interesting there. It's that's the AI red light camera.
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One I've never heard of that me neither. I've heard
of regular red.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Light cameras that do take pictures of your license plate.
I've had to deal with that running toll booths back
in the day, right. Yeah, So when he says AI,
it makes me wonder if it's the computer program that
got it wrong. Like his license plate was one letter
or one number off from the person that actually did it,
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and the AI, the camera registered it, the AI reads it,
and maybe there was some mud. Maybe there's some mud
on this license plate on a zero that made it
look like an eighth.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Sure you see what I'm saying, and he's getting wrong
with that. I think sometimes people assume computer AI like
they just generalize those two together when it could be
a camera and then they use an AI software to
run it and connect it to the person. Makes sense, right,
rather than an eyes on scenario streamlining the process his
exact example, I don't know, So this is only one
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part where about almost halfway through this, but he takes
it into another direction, which I find really fascinating too.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Usually this whole mess of who committed the infraction is
settled by a police officer pulling somebody over and actually
witnessing them in the driver's seat. THEAI camera doesn't do
any driver verification whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
To get your.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Constitutionally mandated due process, you have to jump through hoops
put up by Automated Enforcement Division, a private company in
Orlando that's owned by another corporation called Navoa Global, which
is owned by a Chilean Swedish millionaire named Carlos Hofstet.
So not only does this process flow through a private company,
our DMV wreckers and personal registration information are accessible by
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a foreign actor. But anyway AD sends you this paper,
and if you want to fight this thing because you're
wrongfully accused me again, you can't just request a hearing
through PPD or the courthouse. Remember, Carlos is involved, So
if you have to go through his company, his website,
print off his paper, fill it out with enough information
to take out a home loan, have it notarized, mail
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it to the foreign actor Carlos and Orlando, and then
wait for something for someone to tell you about a hearing. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
How much of a pain in the ass is that
very much for a city situation?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But this is where I think he has them by
the bass.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
This is undue burden even to begin to try to
get some kind of due process. Paying is super easy, though,
Go figure and about that. You can't pay cash. PPD
doesn't accept it, and neither does Carlos. According to thirty
one USC. Fifty one oh three, all US currency and
coins must be accepted for all government obligations fines, fees, taxes,
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and do so. Not only does this whole thing violate
constitutional due process, it violates federal law by not accepting
US currency to satisfy a government action. Whoever thought this
was a good idea as a self loathing America hating
bureaucratic hobgoblin whose pockets probably got stacked with Carlos bucks
you got my attention, though, I'm going to become a
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more frequent voice down here working to expose frauds and
petty tyrants. Congratulations, you all got yourselves in pain in
the ass.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't think he needs applause, but the he clearly
maybe he made all those codes up. I don't know, right,
but he brings up some interesting points, right, And I
never love like you're applauding, like good for him, run
for office, asshole, right? Right? Do something make some change? Yeah? Yeah,
instead of just being a tyrant, get in and be
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a part of the process and changing. You said at
the beginning, you choose to sit on the sidelines. Well,
now you're annoyed, Well, then get involved right with the process.
Not a nuisance, right, A nuisance isn't going to change anything.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And then he's in it, and then he becomes, you know,
paid off, and now he's part of the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It is a sticky situation.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I get it, right.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
What's the word complicated?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Right? I like the fact that he used the word hobgoblin.
That's not very used that often. Right. Yeah. I never
knew you had to pay government actions, uh, in cash,
they have to accept cash.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I would yeah, any legal tender. I think I've always
thought it was.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean, you would think uh huh, But in his example,
you pay with a card. You cannot pay cash, which
would violate. And there are plenty of ways like you go.
And I haven't paid a ticket in a long time,
but I paid it through a sight and paid with
my card, just.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Because it's easier that way than having to go all
the way down.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Down right, phyllis, have her give me a receipt. Well,
she's on lunch right now. She's on lunch from eleven
thirty to one fifteen.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Bro, I've seen this video on the TikTok that this
motherfucker was paying his ticket and he brought in two
five gallon buckets full of fucking pennies.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's such a dick move.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
It is a dick move, and the ladies were pissed
off about it. Sure as the right police, so nothing
to do with it. However, they She's like, we can't,
we can't take that, we can't take that money, We can't,
we can't.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Approve your pain. Whatever. Try to get but he was like,
he was right, you have no choice. I'm here.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
This is legal tender. No matter how I fucking pay
for my ticket. I'm still paying for it, whether it's
in a million goddamn pennies or what not. You have
no choice but to take it. You're gonna have to
go down to the bank and get that all rolled up.
And he just fucking dumps the buckets pennies right there.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Again, you're just being a dick. He's not wrong, of course,
but these people had nothing to do. You are shifting
the assholeness right right.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Right right mad because he got a ticket for whatever
reason cough yeah yeah, and then wants to stick it
to the man somehow by making a bunch of old
ladies having to fucking count.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Right, But you're just sticking it to the neighbor.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Uh huh. That's wild behavior, man. I would never do that.
I made the mistake one time when I was.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Eighteen.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I got my page and I thought I'd be cute
and I said, give it to me all in ones.
It was like two hundred bucks or something like that.
Give it to me all in one. You know how
much about painting?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I dick.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
That was dealing with all those ones, paying for everything gas, cigarettes, food,
counting them out one at a time, just because I
wanted to be funny.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I thought maybe you were going to the strip club
or something with all those ones.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
No, no, I think because when you're younger, like the
plane with the pennies thing, you think the line to
the man is short, And the line to the man
isn't short. The line to the man is filled with
a bunch of using mes, right, who were all paying
in pennies? Yeah, who're also getting tickets and screwed and whatever. Yeah,
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it it is wild to complain but then not be
a part of the process. Right, it's within your right. Yeah, yeah,
it's within your right. But it's just it's it's not
really solving any You're not really a part of the solution.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I wonder if this guy's mentality is like, at least
I'm bringing awareness to the problem, so maybe somebody else
might step up and fix it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
He's going to hold them accountable or I don't think
he's Yeah, he's not holding them accountable. To me, you're
still it's still happening. So you are complaint, you're complicit
in it. You're condoning it almost. You're not getting involved
to make a change. Yeah, getting involved to make a
change isn't yelling from the sidelines. Getting involved in making
a change is getting involved in the process, right, running
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for office, being on the working for somebody who's in office,
right right, trying to be a part of the effort
to make change. You're just complaining. I think, well, that's
what we do best as a society. I think people
confuse protests like against your employer with this protesting against
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your employers, you're trying to swayed them to change. In
this scenario, you're not persuading anybody. You're just bitching. They
just see you as a news You're just bitching, right,
You're just the squeaky wheel. You're the person at the
office who's like, oh, we're having cake again, instead of like,
yeah we're having cake. Fucker. Yeah, let's see what else. Oh,
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this is pretty awesome. These are some questions. You're one
week into your prison sentence. A much bigger inmate demands
some of your commissary and says, quote, either pay me
now or this gets harder later.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Okay, what do you do here?
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You go? Do you hand it over and hope that's
the end of it. Do you refuse and be willing
to act to fight if he attacks you, or do
you go tell the correction officer. Oh right, tattletale, pitch.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Right, I think I probably hand it over.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You Just give up your snacky cake to fuck anybody,
wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I mean, you know what that means.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Right, It's it's better than I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
My money, right, you know what that means though, Right.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
They're gonna come after it again.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And you'll have to give up that snacky cake every time.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I mean, and you're getting beat you will get in
an altercation.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
But I gotta wait until I'm tougher one weekend. I
ain't tough yet.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
You ain't getting tougher. I gotta get you'll get experienced.
He's gotta get hard, Gorbyn.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Exactly harder. I gotta get harder.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
First, give me, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
You fucking fight, is what you do? Yeah, you fucking fight.
You grab him by his dick, you fucking twist it,
and you fucking whoop this guy's ass in front of
God and everybody, so they all know I'm not fucking
around he for some goddamn stanky cake.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I gotta wait till my shank is made.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
No, then you then you get another sentence. Then you're
in long right, right, because now you got fucking weapons.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
At least this way, you're defending yourself from getting ass
raped and taken for your snaky gig.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah. It is not an ideal situation, but Ghimpia is right.
You grab their dick, twist it, and the correction officer's
got to beat you, Yeah, to get you to let go.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Pull their pants down and pretend you're gonna fuck them.
That will change the fucking script real quick.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, and just hope you don't get beat so bad
that you're in the medical area for a fucking year, right,
That would be much worse. Yeah, let's see, I had
another one here. How concerned are you about AI taking
over jobs in the next ten years? Somewhat concerned, extremely concerned,
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not very concerned, not at all concerned.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Probably somewhat to very concerned.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Pick one, somewhat extremely, not very or not extremely right.
Second to the top. I think it's going to massive,
massively disrupt employment. I think, so, okay.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Get it in a ten year time. It really it
all depends on the industry because you can't get AI
to come fix your air conditioning and do like labor jobs,
service jobs like that, trade jobs I think is what
they call them.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
It's what micro calls them. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, jobs like ours, jobs like the fucking newscaster totally
totally can be done. Customer service jobs, right, can totally
be taken over with AI. So I am at the
somewhat concerned within the next ten years that AI is
going to take a lot, a lot out of the industries. Uh,
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I am not very concerned at all. Really, the same
thing was said when computers came out, right, computers are
going to take over people's jobs.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Did it take people's jobs? Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Did new jobs get developed?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yes. I think the same thing's gonna happen. It's going
to be all right, And when if it were to,
in my opinion, disrupt everything completely, I'm gonna be dead, right,
at least retired anyway, I'm gonna be dead. They thought
there'd be flying chips by now right. It can't spell strawberry.
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There are plenty of documentations. AI is there to appease you.
It's not there to challenge you yet yet. Okay, will
come a time. Yeah, it is, it's coming, dude, it's coming. Ah,
it's to me. I hear it's coming. It's like here
in the next five years. Wow, I think it's it
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will be long gone. I agree, maybe not in the
next ten, you know, five years, ten to fifteen. Totally.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Just look at all the deep fake videos that are
already out there. You get on TikTok. You don't know
what's fucking real anymore anyway, you know what I mean?
So that right there is already taken over. And then
but people believe that it's real because it looks so real,
you know. I try to figure out which isn't AI
and which is AI. And typically for me when it's
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I'm like listening to them talk because it sounds so real.
The natural flow of somebody's cameras is perfect.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
But then they mispronounced one word, and I was like, Okay,
that right there, lets me know that this is an
AI video because a normal person would know how to pronounce.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, this word yeah. To me, if it's too perfect,
I automatically just go like, there's this one I saw
this morning. It was a woman, big busted woman, right
revealing doing crazy karate kicks and all this stuff. And
at one point she jumped in the air and kicked
like six boards or something like that, but she never
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landed on a board, right, I mean there were boards
everywhere except where her feet landed.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm saying you can't. That's too perfect. So I just
kind of think that those things, I just assume all
of it's fake. I think before you see AI takeover,
I think you're gonna more likely see a different separation
of classes of human beings. And you're gonna see people
that think a certain way, like they just believe those videos.
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I see. I'm gonna like they just believe AI stuff automatically.
And then you have a group of people who don't.
And the people that believe it right away are probably
the ones controlled by the robot, and then you have
a group of people fighting against them. It's a fucking terminator.
I think about it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
You have existence, and then you had everybody else, right,
people that are on board terminators.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Real man movies turn into real life. At some point,
would you rather live five years imported Prince Haiti or
or spend five years in federal prison? Now, before you answer,
understand what port of Prince Haiti is like. It is
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a crime infested area, right, it is dangerous. There's no
real government that exists. Money, you would have the scenario
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of them taking your stuff?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I think the US has Haiti as a level four
do not travel because of the rampant crime, kidnapping, robbery,
sexual assaults, gunfire, okay, gang stuff, gang control.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Ye. I had to google it real quick because I
want to make sure. I've never been to Haiti. Me neither,
and I don't know anybody's ever been to Haiti. Okay,
well I am oh, yeah I didn't, didn't you like
I want to rush? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So what would you pick? Lindsay?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Oh, god like every day celebrated with fucking black eyed
peas music.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I don't think so much. Okay, If that's sign.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
It is highly unsafe. Most governments advise against all.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I just want your answer to gang violence.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Rampant kidnapping, because if your shortages of basic necessities such
as food, water, and fuel, and limited medical care.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But so what's your choice.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I'm still going there.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You're gonna go to a federal prison.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
I'm sure I can find a place to hide out
because it is a giant place. I mean, it's still
really big.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
So the story I read, seventy percent of the capital
is under gang control and you gotta come out sometime
to either pee eat or get medical care? Right him, be,
what are you picking?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
It feels kind of like a push, because no matter what,
you're gonna end up in.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
A gang, right right.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
But I think I think I think i'd survived longer
in a federal prison. You know, I don't know where
I land on the gang prison gang scale, because you know,
they say your race has to stick with your race,
and in prison, right the blacks with blacks, and whites
with the whites, and Mexicans and Mexicans like, so I
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want to get confused, man, like, well you kind of
look like a Mexican, but you were raised raised by
white people, we see. I just don't know where I
would land, So I guess I would just have to
wait for somebody to accept me. You know, maybe there's
a group of like loaners over here, Like we're the
people that don't know where to go in the gang,
so we formed our own. But I think it sounds
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better than dealing with that shit. And Haiti, I think
hurricanes and such.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I think I'm picking Haiti for one reason, and that
is because in prison, the control, though by the gangs,
is also controlled by the guards and all that the
rules that they apply so like you're not calling family,
you don't really get to see people. Things are much
more controlled. We're in Haiti, at least I could have
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interactions with people without somebody watching on a camera. I
feel like I only get one part of the living
in prison part.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Okay, you bring a good argument there. You start your
own little side hustle and youre's.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Still money, there's still some freedoms. Yeah, I can get
my snacky cakes that I want, not whatever, not small
Debbie instead of little Debbie. Right, small Deborah, Big Deborah,
big DIBs. Right, Okay. I just feel like there'd be
more freedom outside of prison. Maybe so maybe so never
been to prison either. I mean, I've never been to jail,
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so I don't even know. I don't even know how
bad that is. If you had this, Okay, sell jail
to me, like you got to sell it in a
good way.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Oh man, Well okay, well jail's not too good.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
You're now endorsing jail, all right, so let me give
me the thirty Well, hey, there, this is Gimpy McGee,
the Big Man Morning Show for prison.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Prison's not too bad.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You've got your yard time. There's there's don't believe the myths.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Right, not that bad. You have protection if you're with
the right people. Let's see there is there there, there is,
you know, love to be made. It may not be
the love that you're wanting, but it can still happen.
I don't think I can endorse.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I can't sell you on jail. Okay, Lindsey, can you
do it? I know you'd never well, no, never been
to prison, not even that way.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Here you can stay and get pumped you wanted, yeah,
because what else he going to focus on?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Get crunk.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
When you get get drunk, you might get crunk.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Prison for your for your lady.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
When you get out, she'll see your muscles and you'll
come out a whole new man.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Did you ever see Next Friday?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
No, where Terry Crews went to prison or whatever, and
he finally got out right, But he's so used to,
you know, making love demand that he went after Kat Williams.
Kat Williams had no part of it at all whatsoever.
But Terry Crews didn't give a ship.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Oh said Terry Crews. My mic went limp. My Terry
Crews was on. We watch America's Got Talent. Terry Crews
is the host and somebody that he was interviewing. That
was a contestant. Uh was like, I love you, Terry.
I loved White Chicks. And my ten your old daughter goes,
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what's white chicks?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I was like, well, he's an actor and he was
in a movie called White Chicks? And she goes, what's
that about? And I don't get uncomfortable like talking about
other like traditional things you talk to your.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Child, but this I was like, Eh, he dresses up
as he's in a there it's uh, just let him
watch it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Be fine.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's the wayns brothers, right, That's why they make so
many more movies. Uh huh uh do you believe the
myth about prison? Well, let me tell you. Are you
an entrepreneur? Many business opportunities are waiting for you in prison.
Be the leader of your own group. You get to
control what happens around you. How's your woodworking skills? Always
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looking for fine people in the craft shop to make bookshelves.
How's your metal skills? We have a license plate framing
area where you can become the best metal presser ever.
Laundry is your thing. We got you covered. Do you
know how to cook?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
We need chefs.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Many opportunities that wait for you.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
We'll see you soon. In prison, I love it kind
of sound like a summer camp.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
You've heard my take about school in prison, like they
are not a far jump from each other. Oh no,
they're very different. Oh yeah, Can you leave whenever you want?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Do you have to go pee?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Right? Wish to get to leave at the end of
the day of school? What happens when you get in fights?
You get in trouble?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Really?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
And what do they call it?
Speaker 5 (25:41):
It's ip in prison.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Oh they don't call it IPM. I don't know. Maybe
that is that what they called it? Union?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, uh yeah. They tell you when you can go
to lunch, They tell you when to arrive, They tell
you what you're doing next, tell you what to wear,
tell you what to wear. Sometimes they even make you
get a job in the school. Makes me glad that
I'm not in either one of them. There's armed guards.
Yeah yeah, ah yeah, all right, uh cool, All right,
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